--- Log opened Mon Feb 07 06:15:03 2011 [06:15:03] ---| ---> lbjay [~lbjay@li25-184.members.linode.com] has joined #code4lib [06:15:03] -!-| Irssi: #code4lib: Total of 49 nicks 0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 49 normal [06:15:03] -!-| Irssi: Channel: Join to #code4lib was synced in 4 secs [06:15:03] zoia | your favorite contemporary novelist sucks [06:48:54] ---| ---> jeanne_ri [8cb6fb32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.50] has joined #code4lib [06:49:41] ---| <--- jeanne_ri [8cb6fb32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.50] has left #code4lib () [07:34:52] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [07:35:14] highermath_aw | anyone up? [07:35:22] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [07:38:19] * anarchivist yawns [07:38:22] zoia | anarchivist: WAKE UP! [07:39:27] ---| ---> williw [~williw@office.canadiana.ca] has joined #code4lib [07:43:21] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@140-182-250-160.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [07:56:46] highermath | I was thinking of walking somewhere for coffee. Anyone want to go? [07:57:39] edsu | the bagel place is good [07:57:48] archivist | that would be a long walk for me..... [07:58:10] * highermath could do with a long(ish) walk [07:58:37] edsu | http://www.yelp.com/map/bloomington-bagel-company-bloomington-2 [07:58:48] edsu | oh, you aren't in the union then? [07:59:03] edsu | i'm in maryland so it would be a very long walk for me :-) [07:59:14] edsu | but i went to that bagel place yesterday, and it was really good [07:59:25] archivist | Im in the midlands UK [08:00:39] highermath | okay, so the bagel place is in MD, right? That would be a bit much for me, as well [08:01:52] highermath | edsu, okay, I am now awake enough to read. [08:03:06] highermath | edsu: so you are in md, but you came to bloomington to have a bagel yesterday [08:03:18] highermath | I am still a bit fuzzy on this [08:03:23] ---| ---> ecorrado_ [~ecorrado@ecorrado.binghamton.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:04:25] ---| <<-- edc_away [~ecorrado@ecorrado.binghamton.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:08:40] edsu | highermath: yeah, unfortunately i couldn't stay for code4lib, but i was there for a pre-conference-type of a event yesterday and the day before [08:09:20] ---| <<-- ecorrado_ [~ecorrado@ecorrado.binghamton.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [08:10:59] ---| <<-- highermath [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [08:12:08] ---| ---> ecorrado_ [~ecorrado@ecorrado.binghamton.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:13:04] ---| ---> MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:14:33] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@c-71-62-24-76.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [08:14:35] MrDys | where is this registration/breakfast dealie? [08:16:13] anarchivist | MrDys: on twitter ranti just said the mezzanine [08:16:17] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [08:16:37] MrDys | @sing soul coughing : super bon bon : mezzanine [08:16:39] zoia | Some hand is motioning / to rise, to rise, to rise. / Too fat, fat you must cut lean. / You got to take the elevator to the mezzanine, [08:16:59] ---| ---> djwonk [~david@ip66-104-27-234.z27-104-66.customer.algx.net] has joined #code4lib [08:17:12] ---| ---> ablemann [~ablemann@147.226.130.57] has joined #code4lib [08:17:13] ---| <<-- djwonk [~david@ip66-104-27-234.z27-104-66.customer.algx.net] has quit (Client Quit) [08:22:54] ---| <<-- alxp [~aoneill@blk-30-155-121.eastlink.ca] has quit (Quit: alxp) [08:23:45] ---| <<-- MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:32:43] ---| ---> ejk [~kloostere@odie.aadl.org] has joined #code4lib [08:34:05] ejk | @quote random [08:34:05] zoia | ejk: Quote #2187: "< rosy1280> bacon should be on everyone's homepage" (added by anarchivist at 10:01 AM, February 24, 2010) [08:34:19] lbjay | @love free wifi [08:34:21] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. lbjay loves free wifi. [08:34:47] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@140-182-251-241.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:35:26] lbjay | @tweet [translationparty [sing soul coughing : super bon bon : mezzanine]] #c4l11 [08:35:49] zoia | The operation succeeded. [08:35:50] zoia | lbjay: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [08:36:12] lbjay | hmm [08:36:18] lbjay | @twit --from bot4lib [08:36:20] zoia | lbjay: bot4lib: 404: invalid result data #c4l11 [08:36:29] csharp | heh [08:36:52] lbjay | @translationparty [sing soul coughing : super bon bon : mezzanine] [08:37:27] zoia | Some hands / roses and symbols. / Too fat, fat, lean and should be cut. / You were riding the elevator to the mezzanine [08:38:45] lbjay | reads like a personal ad [08:39:00] lbjay | "I was wearing a duran duran t-shirt" [08:41:50] ---| ---> maccabee [9c383a20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.32] has joined #code4lib [08:44:43] ---| ---> rjw [~rjw@62.242.28.38] has joined #code4lib [08:44:45] ---| ---> ranti [8cb6f825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.37] has joined #code4lib [08:51:26] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@140-182-250-160.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [08:51:53] ---| ---> Tokee [~tokee@156-56-58-42.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:52:05] ---| ---> ccurry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has joined #code4lib [08:52:08] ---| ---> rickj_ [9c383a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.40] has joined #code4lib [08:52:09] ---| ---> awead [~awead@140-182-231-104.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:52:39] ---| User: *** Tokee is now known as toke [08:52:49] ---| User: *** toke is now known as tokee [08:53:08] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:09] tokee | Okay, just how many variations of my name is registered? 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[09:06:09] ---| ---> decasm_ [~decasm@156-56-58-30.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:15] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:06:18] decasm_ | functional_javascript++ [09:06:18] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:42] akorphan | lambda++ [09:06:44] mjg_ | MrDys++ [09:06:52] akorphan | kittens++ [09:06:54] ---| ---> helrond [8cb6f995@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.149] has joined #code4lib [09:06:58] anarchivist | @ana lambada [09:06:58] zoia | anarchivist: Am a bald [09:07:11] anarchivist | @hussein lambada [09:07:12] zoia | anarchivist: Im subnasal head [09:07:23] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@140-182-250-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:23] ---| <<-- jtgorman [~jtgorman@140-182-250-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [09:07:23] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [09:07:25] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [09:08:50] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@140-182-250-160.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:09:32] anarchivist | @quote random [09:09:32] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #2477: "< edsu> emorgan: just think you could be basking in the sun in palo alto, tweeting about some awesome culinary experience you are having" (added by anarchivist at 04:29 PM, January 03, 2011) [09:09:39] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:09:54] akorphan | At least it doesn't snow in Seattle. [09:10:20] ---| User: *** wickr_ is now known as wickr [09:11:02] mjg_ | anarchivist: "I'm interested in bathrobes and mops" [09:11:10] harvel | mjg_++ [09:11:13] ---| <<-- jrochkind [~jrochkind@156-56-58-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [09:11:35] anarchivist | mjg_.split('and') [09:12:11] anarchivist | mjg_: you're confusing me w/ rob_away on the mop part [09:12:17] ---| ---> jrochkind [~jrochkind@156-56-58-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:12:42] gmcharlt | @quote random [09:12:42] zoia gmcharlt: Quote #2314: " These are my principles / If you don't like them I got others / This is my opinion / If you don't agree I've got big brothers" (added by lbjay at 09:40 AM, June 11, 2010) [09:12:47] scolford | Where the heck is mbklein? [09:13:14] anarchivist | @arch needs to say one more thing [09:13:14] zoia | THE ARCHITECT NEEDS TO SAY ONE MORE THING [09:13:46] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [09:14:02] anarchivist | @arch views "repositories" as the support hose of the library world [09:14:02] zoia | THE ARCHITECT VIEWS REPOSITORIES AS THE SUPPORT HOSE OF THE LIBRARY WORLD [09:14:17] akorphan | How does the anarchitect feel? [09:14:21] * mjg_ snorts [09:14:24] MrDys | repositories: they've got L'eggs [09:14:33] anarchivist | MrDys: they know how to use themm [09:14:43] anarchivist | s/m+/m [09:14:51] jbrinley | @hussein L'eggs repository [09:14:51] zoia | jbrinley: Righteously pig soreness [09:15:10] mjg_ | @sing zz top : fedora's got legs [09:15:12] zoia | mjg_: No lyrics found for fedora's got legs by zz top [09:15:34] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:17:43] mjg_ | @horatio "maybe the dingo ate your" baby [09:17:44] zoia | mjg_: i guess you could say maybe the dingo ate your ... /O_O/ baby YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [09:18:07] ---| <<-- ccurry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [09:18:29] MrDys | my laptop is sounding like a jet engine [09:18:43] ---| ---> yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has joined #code4lib [09:19:00] ---| ---> tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has joined #code4lib [09:19:10] ---| Channel: MrDys changed the topic of #code4lib to: welcome to #code4lib - Bloomington used to be so nice. Hospitality suite is 116/117. [09:19:53] mjg_ | MrDys++ [09:20:24] ---| ---> ccurry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has joined #code4lib [09:20:33] ---| <<-- yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has quit (Client Quit) [09:20:52] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:20:57] ---| ---> yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has joined #code4lib [09:21:38] ---| ---> mjsuhonos [~Adium@206-188-64-101.cpe.distributel.net] has joined #code4lib [09:22:02] ---| ---> MarkMounts [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:22:43] ---| ---> grk2me [~chatzilla@156-56-58-73.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:23:05] ---| ---> Code4Lib [~Adium@140-182-249-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:23:24] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-231-152.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:23:34] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:23:56] mjg_ | LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT! [09:23:57] jbrinley | @dnd [09:23:57] zoia | jbrinley: strength:7 dexterity:17 constitution:16 intelligence:10 wisdom:14 charisma:17 [09:24:00] jtgorman | @dice 1d20 [09:24:00] zoia | jtgorman: 4 [09:24:43] mjg_ | maybe we shoulda got some microphones [09:24:51] mjg_ | big ol' room is swallowing our voices [09:25:02] jtgorman | mjg_: fans don't help either [09:25:17] MrDys | @sing beastie boys : pass the mic [09:25:20] zoia | What's Running Through My Mind Comes Through In My Walk True / Feelings Are Shown From The Way That I Talk And This Is Me, Y'All- / I M.C., Y'All My Name Is M.C.A. And I Still Do What I Please And / Now I'd Like To Introduce I'll Pass The Mic To D. For A Fist Full Of Truth [09:25:30] mjg_ | IF WE ALL TYPE IN CAPS, MAYBE EVERYONE CAN HEAR US [09:25:40] BillDueber_ | Hey, good lookin', we'll be back to pick you up later! [09:26:04] mjg_ | loud_talkers++ [09:26:21] mjg_ | cbeer++ [09:26:31] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [09:26:32] eby | other_people_doing_the_work++ [09:28:23] mjg_ | @horatio "anarchivist is sticky because of that" gumshoe [09:28:24] zoia | mjg_: on the other hand, anarchivist is sticky because of that ... /O_O/ gumshoe YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [09:28:27] ---| ---> roguejuly [8cb6fac6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.198] has joined #code4lib [09:29:00] BigD | We need to use stage voices in this room [09:29:14] BigD | anarchivist: Is nice and loud [09:29:15] MrDys | where all the theatre majors at? [09:29:25] MrDys | mbklein, rsinger, this is your calling [09:29:33] anarchivist | @hussein gumshoe [09:29:33] zoia | anarchivist: Hugeousness him [09:29:48] ---| <--- mjsuhonos [~Adium@206-188-64-101.cpe.distributel.net] has left #code4lib () [09:29:59] * rsinger gets out his stage makeup [09:30:07] anarchivist | @horatio rsinger must be method acting [09:30:07] zoia | anarchivist: it appears that rsinger ... /O_O/ must be method acting YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [09:30:12] ejk | Red leather, yellow leather [09:30:24] rsinger | you know you need unique new york [09:30:27] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:31] akorphan | The seething sea ceaseth and the seething sea sufficeth us. [09:30:32] jtgorman | rsinger: can you sing Mr. Cellophane? [09:30:44] rsinger | i can't sing anything [09:30:46] * scolford was theatre major [09:30:54] rsinger | i was a REAL actor, unlike mbklein [09:31:02] akorphan | The sixth sic sheik's sixth sheep's sick. [09:31:04] scolford | SNAP [09:31:08] rsinger | scolford: you were? [09:31:10] rsinger | HI5 [09:31:18] rsinger | scolford: that is unsurprising, of course [09:31:24] scolford | indeed and a professional. even brought my headshot this week by accident [09:31:30] rsinger | ha! [09:31:35] gsf | math is hard [09:31:44] robcaSSon | gsf++ [09:31:53] scolford | okay now be quiet i'm concentrating [09:32:39] decasm_ | i chose the awful fibonacci [09:32:58] edsu | you guys in the functional javascript pre-conf? [09:33:24] akorphan | oh mais oui [09:33:30] mjg_ | dlovins++ [09:33:37] decasm_ | edsu: yup [09:33:45] robcaSSon | edsu: gsf and decasm are....i'm gonna float around a bit [09:34:05] ---| <<-- Code4Lib [~Adium@140-182-249-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:35:57] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@140-182-248-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cbeer_) [09:36:23] ---| ---> Code4Lib [~rjhoyle@140-182-249-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:36:26] rsinger | edsu: i say we use this opportunity to case their houses [09:36:26] akorphan | we need dynamic programming to save us! [09:36:52] ---| ---> codemonkey [8cb6f928@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.40] has joined #code4lib [09:36:53] ---| User: *** gsf is now known as gsf_ [09:37:04] edsu | decasm_: you ever see this thing sean burke did, taking the book Higher Order Perl and doing all the examples in JavaScript [09:37:07] edsu | ? [09:37:17] edsu | rsinger++ [09:37:24] edsu | rsinger: so you didn't end up goin? [09:37:55] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@140-182-248-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:38:13] ---| <<-- Richard_UofKY [8cb6f939@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.57] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:38:15] edsu | decasm_: oh, here it is http://interglacial.com/hoj/hoj.html [09:38:17] rsinger | edsu: no [09:38:43] edsu | rsinger: bummer [09:39:13] rsinger | edsu: yeah, it sucks, but you've gotta pick your battles [09:39:15] edsu | rsinger: i had a nice time there on sat/sun and could feel the vibe building, i wish i could've stayed [09:39:22] edsu | rsinger: yup [09:39:40] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140-182-250-153.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:39:41] akorphan | I learned the fib3 technique in my algorithms course, and then promptly forgot it. [09:39:42] rsinger | esp. the battles that keeps that sweet paycheck teat flowing [09:39:53] ---| <<-- tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:40:41] MrDys | @hussein paycheck teat [09:40:42] zoia | MrDys: Uneasy, thickset cheap [09:40:43] ---| <<-- ranti [8cb6f825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.37] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:41:08] ---| <<-- roguejuly [8cb6fac6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.198] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:42:13] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [09:42:38] knickum | tweetdeck [09:42:44] ---| ---> dbs [~dbs@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [09:42:45] zoia | mbklein's operation succeeded [09:42:48] knickum | oh no, at least it wasn't a password [09:43:41] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [09:45:06] ---| ---> maru3 [79666596@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.102.101.150] has joined #code4lib [09:46:23] ---| ---> tzhaya_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:46:27] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-231-152.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:46:55] mjg_ | my favorite bacon pre-ingest process is frying [09:47:43] ---| <<-- jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:48:53] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:49:05] ---| User: *** tzhaya_ is now known as tzhaya [09:49:08] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dbh_) [09:50:02] eby | @love bacon [09:50:05] zoia | eby: The operation succeeded. eby loves bacon. [09:50:11] eby | @love coke [09:50:13] decasm_ | edsu: no, hadn't seen that before. cool. [09:50:14] zoia | eby: The operation succeeded. eby loves coke. [09:50:37] akorphan | only one thing smells like bacon, and that's bacon [09:50:42] ---| ---> thegreatchelsalr [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [09:50:55] knickum | twittering during the talk is hard, completely interrupts my nap plans [09:51:03] eby | Certain smoked beers [09:51:19] akorphan | @ana certain smoked beers [09:51:20] zoia | akorphan: On berserk decimates [09:51:27] jbrinley | @who smells like bacon [09:51:27] zoia | jbrinley smells like bacon. [09:51:32] jbrinley | hmm [09:51:33] ---| <<-- maru3 [79666596@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.102.101.150] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:51:45] ---| ---> djwonk [~david@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #code4lib [09:51:49] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [09:51:50] ---| ---> phasefx [~phasefx@75-150-13-105-Atlanta.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #code4lib [09:51:54] MrDys | I should've gotten one of those cheese danishes... [09:51:59] ---| <--- thegreatchelsalr [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has left #code4lib () [09:52:14] robcaSSon | eby: i brought a smoked beer from cincy....haven't tried it yet [09:53:00] eby | Looking forward to that roasted corn [09:53:15] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [09:53:42] ---| ---> jdwyn [9c383a34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.52] has joined #code4lib [09:53:50] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@209.226.201.250] has joined #code4lib [09:54:53] ---| <--- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140-182-250-153.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [09:55:07] ---| ---> tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has joined #code4lib [09:55:13] ---| ---> jenny [~Jenny_Tur@199.17.248.17] has joined #code4lib [09:55:36] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:55:49] ---| ---> rsinger_ [~rsinger@host-68-169-158-195.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #code4lib [09:56:09] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140-182-250-153.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:56:12] flyingzumwalt | is there a way to get the wiki to stop intercepting me with a capcha every time I add a link? [09:56:31] wickr | flyingzumwalt: are you signed in with an account on the wiki? [09:56:37] ---| <<-- rsinger [~rsinger@host-68-169-158-195.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [09:56:37] ---| User: *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger [09:56:47] flyingzumwalt | yep. I'm signed in. [09:57:02] scolford | @help herald [09:57:02] zoia | scolford: Error: There is no command "herald". [09:57:21] wickr | flyingzumwalt: hmmm [09:57:34] dileshni | anyone else heading for the conference stuck at Pearson? [09:57:39] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:57:46] ---| ---> ruebot [~ruebot@xenu.lib.McMaster.CA] has joined #code4lib [09:59:20] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:59:34] ---| <<-- djwonk [~david@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit (Quit: djwonk) [10:00:01] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [10:00:58] wickr | flyingzumwalt: let me know if it's still doign it [10:01:38] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [10:01:39] zoia | it's not the heat, it's jdwyn [10:01:50] flyingzumwalt | wickr: thanks. it stopped [10:02:12] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@140-182-249-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:02:22] mbklein | wickr++ # FIXER OF ALL PERMISSIONS ISSUES [10:02:31] ---| <--- Code4Lib [~rjhoyle@140-182-249-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [10:02:49] wickr | flyingzumwalt: great [10:03:02] robcaSSon | @praise wickr [10:03:03] zoia | we are all merely terms in the history of wickr [10:03:54] ---| ---> wickr_ [~wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [10:04:06] ---| <<-- jdwyn [9c383a34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.52] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:04:36] flyingzumwalt | wickr: it came back [10:04:37] ---| ---> yitznewton [~yitznewto@64.20.191.59] has joined #code4lib [10:04:41] * yitznewton is live from New York [10:04:55] flyingzumwalt | and it's including greek characters now [10:04:57] yitznewton | warm here today [10:05:08] mjg_ | mbklein: welcome back east, mf. enjoy the weather. [10:05:09] yitznewton | @forecast 10006 [10:05:10] zoia | yitznewton: 41°?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT [10:05:28] ---| ---> eefcee [~eefcee@jkolb12.dsl.visi.com] has joined #code4lib [10:07:28] ---| <<-- wickr [~wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [10:09:14] ---| ---> sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:09:46] ---| User: *** wickr_ is now known as wickr [10:10:19] eefcee | seems very quiet in the bloomington backchannel... [10:10:33] akorphan | We're all paying rapt attention. [10:10:52] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-231-152.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:11:00] wickr | flyingzumwalt: the captcha is including greek chars? [10:11:09] mbklein | mjg_: Damn you, you're too far away to throw things at. [10:11:18] flyingzumwalt | wickr: yep. not always, but yet. [10:11:34] akorphan | wickr: I am guessing that is the "unknown" half of the recaptcha. [10:11:44] wickr | flyingzumwalt: ok, not sure I can do much about that, short of disabling it [10:11:48] mjg_ | mbklein: you'll get your chance. [10:12:10] ---| ---> BigD_ [~bigd@mobile-166-137-143-249.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [10:12:17] flyingzumwalt | wickr: thanks. I think we're done adding most of the links in this group [10:12:32] zoia | To prove you are a human, type the following phrase: TH҉̨E̕͝͞ ̧͝A͟R͞͝C͢H͝͝͡I͞TÉĆ̢̛T ̕I͜S̸͞҉ Á̢ ̸̡͞TO̶͜͝OL̷̛͠ [10:12:41] yitznewton | sibylschaefer: hope you have an easier time getting home this yr :) i stayed behind in NY [10:13:06] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:13:10] ---| User: *** BigD_ is now known as BigD [10:13:19] ---| ---> djwonk [~david@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #code4lib [10:13:20] ---| ---> Khalev [~ames@144.38.121.126] has joined #code4lib [10:13:48] ---| ---> babs [~chatzilla@host-nonstudentw-144-23.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:50] sibylschaefer | yitznewton I hope so too! Fingers crossed no snowstorms on Thurs [10:14:20] mjg_ | zoia's_puppetmaster++ [10:14:38] * mbklein whistles [10:15:02] mbklein | channel_captcha++ [10:15:04] yitznewton | i auditioned at IU for music back in the 90's. nice place! if anybody likes opera, hit them up - they apptly have a strong dept http://www.music.indiana.edu/opera/ [yeah yeah, wrong crowd, i know] [10:15:21] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:15:26] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:15:26] mjg_ | "I typed what mbklein told me to and all I got was this carpal tunnel syndrome" [10:15:43] mbklein | yitznewton: I was an undergrad music major who considered, but didn't audition for, IU. Though I have a number of friends who came here for undergrad and graduate music. [10:15:56] mbklein | mjg_: That's "crapal tunnel" [10:15:57] ---| ---> fowbar [8cb6f9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.229] has joined #code4lib [10:16:10] yitznewton | mbklein++ # what instrument? [10:16:12] jbrinley | mbklein: you, too? what instrument did you study? [10:16:21] yitznewton | i was organ/music ed [10:16:31] * jbrinley did percussion [10:16:32] yitznewton | (never finished tho) [10:16:36] gugek | yitznewton: i was running this morning and heard an amazing number of people practicing instruments. [10:16:44] gugek | it was really surprising [10:16:49] ---| <<-- ruebot [~ruebot@xenu.lib.McMaster.CA] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:16:49] yitznewton | gugek: yep, tis the way of music schools [10:17:03] mbklein | yitznewton: Voice principal, with some piano [10:17:14] mbklein | er, rather, jbrinley. :) [10:17:32] jbrinley | mbklein: I think we both asked [10:17:34] yitznewton | ah, voice majors (shudder)... those water-bottle-toting, scarf-wearing-in-July freaks [10:17:46] jbrinley | yitznewton++ # well said [10:17:52] yitznewton | my roommate freshman yr was a voice major [10:18:12] yitznewton | your piano redeems you [10:18:17] mbklein | yitznewton: I wasn't one of those. :) Actually, I had a concentration in Musical Theatre, which means the music department didn't want us musically, and the theatre department didn't want us theatrically. [10:18:30] yitznewton | musical_theatre++ [10:18:40] yitznewton | musical_misfits++ [10:18:50] yitznewton | i did some extracurr G&S whilst i was there [10:19:17] ejk | I would think the Venn diagram of Lib Geeks and Music Geeks would *almost* be a perfect circle [10:19:26] mbklein | The other odd thing about my undergrad experience... [10:20:00] akorphan | yitznewton: did your roommate wear a silk scarf all the time and complain about drafty rooms? [10:20:19] ---| ---> ruebot [~ruebot@xenu.lib.McMaster.CA] has joined #code4lib [10:20:20] akorphan | oh, I see you have already described half of these bad habits. [10:20:44] mbklein | I went to the Benjamin T. Rome School of Music at The Catholic University of America. I was on an academic scholarship for music majors that was awarded to one person in each class year. My freshman year, it just so happened that each of the four Ward Scholarship holders happened to be the one Jewish student in their given year. :) [10:20:58] akorphan | yitznewton: where did you go? (did you answer that question already?) [10:21:55] ---| ---> skoczko [8cb6fa88@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.136] has joined #code4lib [10:22:05] mbklein | Voice majors: Scarf-wearing, draft-averse, tea-drinking, odd-vocal-warmup-making prima donnas WHO ALSO SMOKE IN ALARMING NUMBERS. [10:22:13] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@64.120.55.51] has joined #code4lib [10:22:13] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@64.120.55.51] has quit (Changing host) [10:22:13] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [10:22:13] yitznewton | akorphan: oberlin. i was there 2.5 years, then transferred out [10:22:28] akorphan | yitznewton: oberlin++ !!! [10:22:34] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:22:38] yitznewton | oberlin++ [10:22:38] mbklein | yitznewton: When were you at Oberlin? [10:22:41] yitznewton | 98-00 [10:22:49] * akorphan went to Oberlin but majored in math. [10:22:58] mbklein | Ah, after my friends' time. :) [10:23:10] akorphan | yitznewton: we overlapped [10:23:10] ---| ---> richard_UofKY [8cb6f939@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.57] has joined #code4lib [10:23:10] yitznewton | http://www.oberlin.edu/newserv/stories/19991029organ_pump.html <-- me [10:23:23] mbklein | I had various friends there from 86-92. [10:23:29] * akorphan was class of '99 [10:23:53] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140-182-250-153.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: flyingzumwalt) [10:23:56] yitznewton | akorphan: college? [10:24:02] yitznewton | akorphan: or con [10:24:07] decasm_ | akorphan: did you happen to know Ben Grubb? [10:24:09] * mbklein feels old [10:24:43] jbrinley | mbklein: that's only because you are old [10:24:45] akorphan | yitznewton: college. Had many (incurably depressed) friends in the con. The music majors I knew who were happiest were all College music majors [10:25:00] * MrDys hands mbklein a box of 'Touch of Gray' [10:25:06] akorphan | decasm_: The name vaguely rings a bell but I don't think I knew him [10:25:31] decasm_ | i went to high school with him. he and both his older siblings went to oberlin. [10:26:01] mbklein | MrDys: Thanks, but that stuff requires HAIR. [10:26:04] akorphan | decasm_: what were the years of the older sibs? My older brother is also an obie [10:26:18] MrDys | @sing hair : hair [10:26:20] zoia | She asks me why / I'm just a hairy guy / I'm hairy noon and night [10:26:26] yitznewton | akorphan: after a short time there i realized it's crazy to sit there in a room and work on perfecting music for minimum 4 hours per day. so i moved on. not for me, i guess. now I sit in a room writing code (i hope) for at least 4 hours a day... [10:26:45] yitznewton | (in addition to other non-code-related duties) [10:27:17] akorphan | yitznewton: I mostly remember spending lots of time sitting around the little round table in front of the math office staring at pieces of paper with other math students [10:27:51] decasm_ | akorphan: hmm. older sister (libby) would have been ...97?, then older brother (josh) would have been 95? [10:27:57] MrDys | ...and ndushay just strolls on in...you californians and your loose definition of time [10:28:02] akorphan | decasm_: e-mailing brother now... [10:28:03] edsu | mjg_: you around? [10:28:08] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140-182-250-153.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:28:30] mbklein | yitznewton++ # Friday Night Organ Pump [10:28:31] atz | mbklein: if you're in Bloomington, your first round is on me... [10:28:34] decasm_ | akorphan: i'm sorta calculating backwards from when we graduated from highschool. ben probably would have been 99. [10:28:43] decasm_ | 99 from oberlin. [10:29:00] BillDueber_ | atz: If my "mbklein" you mean BillDueber, then awesome! [10:29:27] mbklein | atz: I'm here! Do we still need to talk GRI segments, or has that ship sailed? [10:29:30] mbklein | BillDueber++ [10:29:46] edsu | @sing frightened rabbit : midnight organ fight [10:29:47] zoia | edsu: No lyrics found for midnight organ fight by frightened rabbit [10:30:22] atz | mbklein: gig is up. KCLS is live, and gmcharlt is on point for whatever integration edge cases may remain (last i checked). [10:30:27] mjg_ | edsu: yep. what up? [10:30:32] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:30:36] mbklein | atz: Sweet [10:30:37] edsu | mjg_: just curious how curatecamp is going [10:30:40] mjg_ | every time vphill says "door counts," I hear "dork hounds" [10:30:45] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:30:54] edsu | mjg_: many people show up? [10:31:02] mjg_ | edsu: so far, so good. we have 5 or 6 groups around a big room [10:31:11] mjg_ | 30-somethingish? [10:31:15] edsu | nice [10:31:26] edsu | is anyone talking about that bag replication stuff? [10:31:27] ndushay | good morning campers! [10:31:33] mbklein | mjg_: How much work is actually getting done? [10:31:52] mjg_ | I'm with anarchivist, vphill, and a few others. we're talking about an event service. [10:32:02] * akorphan misses anarchivist's white glasses. [10:32:14] anarchivist | mbklein: i'm still hacking on my proposal for the camp [10:32:17] mjg_ | mbklein: I dunno how many people are actually hacking but the conversation has been productive [10:32:18] mbklein | mjg_: Will there be beer at this "event"? [10:32:21] edsu | mjg_: cool [10:32:26] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dbh_) [10:32:29] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: anna3lc) [10:32:43] fowbar | @anarchivist = big red glasses - nice [10:32:44] zoia | fowbar: that's not a departmental goal; it's just an rsinger goal [10:32:48] edsu | mjg_: kinda like what vphill is doing w/ their premis events service thing? [10:32:56] mjg_ | edsu: precisely [10:33:01] robcaSSon | sally jesse matienzo [10:33:03] ndushay | to anyone in the solr session - has the break happened yet? [10:33:18] mjg_ | something to toss arbitrary events at that can then power admin dashboards, stats services, etc. [10:33:27] mjg_ | robcaSSon++ [10:33:32] ndushay | i think i see MrDys - i recognize him by his chops from the back [10:33:37] atz | solr still rollin, ndushay [10:33:47] MrDys | ndushay: yuuuuuuuuuuuuup [10:33:51] ndushay | atz: ja - i just got here, but wondering if we're taking a break [10:34:01] edsu | mjg_: on the bag replication front, was wondering if something like what apache does with mirroring could be a first step in a more mediated kind of bag replication: http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html [10:34:03] ndushay | i'm from the west coast, ja know. [10:34:21] mjg_ | edsu: no one's talked about the bag repl thing yet, but it'd be a good thing to kick around :) [10:34:30] edsu | mjg_: before jumping into APIs and whatnot, might be more along the lines of what you and vphill had in mind at first? [10:34:42] anarchivist | mjg_: go kick your bags in the privacy of your room [10:34:43] BillDueber_ | ndushay: No break as of yet. [10:34:58] edsu | mjg_: ok, well don't let me distract you ; nice thing about meeting in person, is well, talking to people :-) [10:35:03] * mbklein kicks mjg_ in the bags [10:35:06] ndushay | BillDueber!!!!!!!! Honey!!! [10:35:07] mjg_ | edsu: will check that out! [10:35:08] MrDys | "I just got here and I already need a break." You californians... [10:35:13] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@mobile-166-137-143-249.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [10:35:18] ndushay | MrDys: you bet. [10:35:29] ndushay | actually i'm wondering if i should disruptively plug in now or wait until the break [10:35:46] BillDueber_ | ndushay: You could just look over your left shoulder and smile :-) [10:35:46] edsu | mbklein: you in the solr session? [10:36:01] ndushay | BillDueber_: I wouldn't want to give anyone else the wrong idea. [10:36:06] BillDueber_ | :-) [10:36:16] ---| ---> mlevy [9c383a39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.57] has joined #code4lib [10:36:23] ndushay | edsu: mbklein: all the cool kids are in the Solr sessions [10:36:25] ndushay | :-D [10:36:31] mbklein | edsu: CurateCamp Hackfest. Sitting around a table with eby, cbeer, and others trying to figure out what to hack on. In Ruby, specifically. [10:36:42] anarchivist | mbklein: funny, i'm working in ruby right now [10:36:46] edsu | ndushay: sounds like a good reason not to be there :-) [10:36:49] ndushay | mbklein: might I suggest a computer? [10:36:51] anarchivist | can someone help with a blacklight question? [10:37:00] mbklein | anarchivist: Get over here, then. [10:37:02] mbklein | :) [10:37:04] MrDys | anarchivist: spit it out [10:37:12] * edsu isn't even at code4lib, so i'm *totally* un-cool [10:37:35] ---| ---> dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:37:40] ndushay | edsu: I presume you are the revered Ed Summers? [10:37:47] BillDueber_ | edsu: No, that makes you supercool. "incool", evne. LIke "invulnerable" or "infamous" [10:37:54] anarchivist | so, given the following rake task [10:37:54] mbklein | heh. "revered." [10:37:55] ndushay | anarchivist: fire away [10:37:58] edsu | ndushay: no comment [10:38:01] mbklein | edsu++ [10:38:02] BillDueber_ | revered????? [10:38:10] edsu | s/revered/reviled/ [10:38:13] MrDys | reverend ed summers [10:38:16] dchud | revererted [10:38:17] anarchivist | https://github.com/anarchivist/gumshoe/blob/master/lib/tasks/app.rake [10:38:19] ndushay | BillDueber_: mbklein: it's the best I can do at 7:30 am [10:38:21] MrDys | @ana reverend ed summers [10:38:22] zoia | MrDys: Murder deserves men [10:38:34] anarchivist | so i'm trying to get app:image:index running [10:38:36] edsu | so what's going on in the solr session? [10:38:48] MrDys | edsu: erik's talking about spellcheck improvements [10:39:05] anarchivist | i'm getting "uninitialized constant RSolr::Client" [10:39:11] ndushay | anarchivist: looing [10:39:12] ndushay | looking [10:39:14] ndushay | heh [10:39:38] edsu | dchud: are you in solr session too? [10:39:50] ndushay | anarchivist: the mapper stuff in blacklight is old and not supported, i believe [10:39:56] ndushay | it's from Matt Mitchell [10:39:57] dchud | edsu: yes though i can't read any of the slides so i'm half tuned-out :\ [10:40:38] dchud | thinking about swapping out to go camping [10:40:39] edsu | dchud: would be interesting to hear if anyone there is doing much to filter bad ocr w/ solr [10:41:07] robcaSSon | tom burton-west would make sense to talk to....hathi trust dude [10:41:08] anarchivist | ndushay: i'm just trying to index an array of hashes [10:41:10] ---| <<-- jrochkind [~jrochkind@156-56-58-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [10:41:23] anarchivist | ndushay: full stack trace: https://gist.github.com/814551 [10:41:29] robcaSSon | edsu: lots of awful, multi-language ocr [10:41:30] fowbar | dchud: you should join us in Frangipani - anarchivist has a project you'd like [10:41:41] edsu | dchud: yeah, that's where i'd be at any rate [10:42:00] edsu | solr++ # however [10:42:04] dchud | fowbar: you're here? and you already met anarchivist? oh good. :) [10:42:14] anarchivist | dchud: we're sitting at the same table :) [10:42:16] BillDueber_ | dchud: Talk to Tom (right in front of me). Short answer, though -- boy, no one knows shit about dealing with bad OCR [10:42:20] * robcaSSon is ready for lunch already [10:42:26] BillDueber_ | robcaSSon++ [10:42:27] dchud | edsu: i'm interested in the grouping functions [10:42:31] anarchivist | robcaSSon: munchies? [10:42:37] robcaSSon | anarchivist++ [10:42:40] jbrinley | robcaSSon: blame jet lag [10:42:43] fowbar | dchud: I'm at his table discussing pre-ingest solr stats rights management yadaddaaddaa [10:42:51] dchud | heh [10:42:55] mjg_ | now we're talking about ingest assumptions, trying to figure out why ingest is expensive or perceived as expensive [10:43:15] robcaSSon | @quote search glad talking [10:43:17] ndushay | anarchivist: my code: [10:43:18] ndushay | # return a Connection::NetHttp object to use for Solr http interactions via RSolr [10:43:18] ndushay | def config_solr(solr_baseurl) [10:43:18] ndushay | if @solr.nil? [10:43:18] ndushay | require "yaml" [10:43:18] ndushay | solr_config = YAML::load(YAML::dump({:url=>solr_baseurl.to_s})) [10:43:18] ndushay | if Gem.available? 'curb' [10:43:19] zoia | robcaSSon: No matching quotes were found. [10:43:19] ndushay | require 'curb' [10:43:19] ndushay | @solr = RSolr.connect(solr_config.merge(:adapter=>:curb)) [10:43:20] ndushay | else [10:43:20] ndushay | @solr = RSolr.connect(solr_config) [10:43:21] ndushay | end [10:43:21] ndushay | puts "Solr initialized with solr_config: #{solr_config.inspect}" [10:43:22] ndushay | puts "Solr initialized with solr: #{@solr.inspect}" [10:43:22] ndushay | end [10:43:23] ndushay | @solr [10:43:34] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:43:34] robcaSSon | @quote search talking [10:43:38] zoia | robcaSSon: 11 found: #1459: " Sorry. I hate talking about copyright and...", #1538: "< edsu> could be worse, we could be talking...", #155: " I checked with the authorities and can...", #1992: " Documents are talking things. They...", #2080: " what we talk about when we talk...", #2130: " mbklein: you, sir, have no idea what...", #2255: " Oh, totally. I assume everyone (1 more message) [10:43:42] akorphan | solr headache! [10:43:48] BillDueber_ | @quote get 2255 [10:43:49] zoia | BillDueber_: Quote #2255: " Oh, totally. I assume everyone in channel is completely talking out of their collective asses." (added by gmcharlt at 09:20 PM, April 08, 2010) [10:44:08] MrDys | @ana collective asses [10:44:10] zoia | MrDys: Loveliest access [10:44:12] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@140-182-248-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cbeer_) [10:44:19] ndushay | anarchivist: and the other part: [10:44:20] BillDueber_ | zoia++ # wow [10:44:20] zoia | BillDueber_: ummmm, maybe you're looking for sendmail4lib? [10:44:21] dchud | ndushay: pastebins are helpful for that [10:44:21] ndushay | # given an array, where each array element represents a single Solr document [10:44:21] ndushay | # as a hash: [solr_doc1, solr_doc2, solr_doc3, ...] [10:44:21] ndushay | # and the solr_doc hashes are {solr_field_name => value} [10:44:21] ndushay | # key: solr field name as a string [10:44:21] ndushay | # value: single value as a string OR multiple values as an array [10:44:21] ndushay | def execute_solr_add_from_doc_hash_array(solr_doc_hash_array, solr_baseurl) [10:44:21] ndushay | @solr = config_solr(solr_baseurl) [10:44:22] ndushay | @solr.add(solr_doc_hash_array) [10:44:22] ndushay | end [10:44:23] edsu | doesn't ruby have a paste service? [10:44:32] ---| ---> tux78 [827e201c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.126.32.28] has joined #code4lib [10:44:34] ndushay | dchud: oops [10:44:36] ndushay | i'm a luddite [10:44:37] ndushay | sorry [10:44:43] edsu | i thought ruby was all web2.0 and stuff :-) [10:44:48] mjg_ | gist.github.com is pretty good too. nice colorization [10:44:49] anarchivist | @mf edsu [10:44:49] zoia | Hey, edsu... [10:44:50] zoia | .-. [10:44:51] zoia | |-| [10:44:52] zoia | | | [10:44:53] dchud | ndushay: no worries, see gist at github for a really convenient one [10:44:53] zoia | _.-|=|-. [10:44:54] zoia | / | | | | [10:44:55] zoia | | |\ [10:44:56] zoia | | / [10:44:57] zoia | \ /` [10:44:58] zoia | | | [10:45:06] anarchivist | ndushay: it's choking on rsolr-ext, it looks like [10:45:08] ndushay | anarchivist: part two: http://pastie.org/1537244 [10:45:16] mjg_ | dchud, esdu: how'd yer NDNP pre-pre-conf go? [10:45:18] robcaSSon | @sing toots and the maytals : living in the ghetto [10:45:20] zoia | robcaSSon: No lyrics found for living in the ghetto by toots and the maytals [10:45:24] ---| <<-- tux78 [827e201c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.126.32.28] has quit (Client Quit) [10:45:24] edsu | anarchivist: i think it's missing an 'end' there somewhere [10:45:31] dchud | ndushay: thanks :) [10:45:41] ndushay | anarchivist: part 1: http://pastie.org/1537247 [10:45:50] anarchivist | ndushay++ [10:45:59] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@140-182-248-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:46:08] ---| <<-- helrond [8cb6f995@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.149] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:46:12] edsu | mjg_: i was really happy with it [10:46:20] robcaSSon | jbrinley: when you headed to mexico? [10:46:44] decasm_ | makeBlackAdder [10:46:44] edsu | mjg_: useful discussion about the cost of ingest actually [10:46:50] MrDys | "you boys like mex-i-co? wooooo!" [10:46:57] jbrinley | robcaSSon: 2 weeks [10:46:58] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [10:47:07] dchud | mjg_: pretty well i think. nice to have the aws/ami/ebs work edsu and eikeon did in prep for it [10:47:47] edsu | mjg_: converting to jp2/tif to jpg for example ; so that our opensource software doesn't have to work w/ jp2 on the fly, or require huge storage overhead (tif) [10:47:48] dchud | nabeta, yegusa, tzhaya: ようこそ！ :) [10:47:54] mjg_ | edsu: yeah, it's been interesting :) I'm keeping notes since we're building an ingest app now and want to make it "simple." [10:48:01] edsu | mjg_: that conversation was really helpful for me [10:48:22] ---| <<-- socialidiocy [~socialidi@itd05.lib.purdue.edu] has quit () [10:48:23] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:48:31] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [10:48:31] zoia | jeff JUST ISN'T TRYING HARD ENOUGH. [10:48:32] mjg_ | edsu, dchud: excellent. [10:48:44] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@137.54.32.44] has joined #code4lib [10:48:53] edsu | mjg_: also, started working on a simple chronam skin that uses the core modeling/indexing bits that eikeon split out into their own repo [10:49:07] * dchud wishes he could've just seen mjg_ tap his fingers together Burns-style [10:49:16] edsu | mjg_: https://bitbucket.org/edsu/chronam-simple [10:49:18] mjg_ | edsu: yeah, I think I saw that reflected in yer hg repos. [10:49:28] edsu | you don't miss much ... [10:49:29] akorphan | decasm_: So my brother apparently knew Libby. [10:49:37] anarchivist | ndushay: no dice [10:49:49] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: maxxkrakoa) [10:49:58] mjg_ | edsu: I just follow you around [10:49:59] ndushay | anarchivist: maybe we could work on this f2f [10:50:06] anarchivist | ndushay: sure thing [10:50:07] mjg_ | edsu: btw, I like the pants you were wearing last night [10:50:20] ---| ---> chelociraptor_ [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [10:50:27] mjg_ | dchud: you'll probably see it before the week is over. [10:50:27] ndushay | mjg_ + edsu sitting in a tree ... [10:50:29] BillDueber_ | mjg_: OK, now it's just getting creeping in here [10:50:31] ---| ---> helrond [8cb6f995@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.149] has joined #code4lib [10:50:37] MrDys | sartorialists4lib [10:50:40] BillDueber_ | s/creeping/creepy/ [10:50:50] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:51:10] * BillDueber_ is gonna sneak out and see if there's still pop out there. [10:51:10] anarchivist | ndushay: never mind, i figured it out [10:51:21] anarchivist | ndushay: needed "require 'rsolr-ext'" [10:51:31] ndushay | anarchivist++ [10:51:33] ---| <<-- chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:51:49] dchud | mjg_: not if i can help it [10:52:06] nabeta | ありがとうございます :-) I enjoy this session [10:52:07] mjg_ | dchud: staying in the hot tub all week? :) [10:52:07] dchud | or, maybe in a few minutes. [10:52:08] MrDys | uh oh...looks like I need to read up on solrcloud [10:52:16] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [10:52:24] dchud | mjg_: youknowit [10:52:31] dchud | ok camping now. [10:52:34] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dchud) [10:52:55] ndushay | erik needs more pictures [10:53:11] ndushay | my presentation will just be blank slides with a picture of bacon on them. [10:53:34] mbklein | ndushay: Forget the slides. Just give out bacon. [10:53:46] ndushay | mbklein: what are you, jewish? [10:53:47] robcaSSon | MrDys: i think the cloud stuff is very much in dev/flux [10:53:48] MrDys | ndushay: I thought you presentation was all going to be us watching code running down the screen, matrix-style [10:53:50] decasm_ | ndushay: if there's a picture on them, they're not blank. [10:54:03] mbklein | ndushay: IT TASTES BETTER BECAUSE IT'S FORBIDDEN [10:54:07] ndushay | decasm: good point. [10:54:36] MrDys | robcaSSon: probably. and I don't think that we have the load balancing requirements that Netflix does...but I am apparently the solr container/tweaker admin thing for our blacklight instance [10:54:41] decasm_ | akorphan: small world, i guess. is oberlin a school that attracts entire families? [10:55:04] edsu | mjg_: view's pretty good from up here, hey look out that branch is ... &crack; [10:55:09] akorphan | i think it tends to. Though we couldn't convince my sister to go no matter how hard we tried. [10:55:15] ndushay | MrDys: I'd be happy for you to be the Solr container/tweaker admin thing for our searchworks blacklight [10:55:21] robcaSSon | MrDys: yeah...prolly just need a shit ton of RAM and a master/slave [10:55:25] * mjg_ snorts [10:55:51] ndushay | robcaSSon: MrDys: that's our approach [10:56:09] MrDys | robcaSSon: that's our approach right now, but we have an indexer container and a query container, each running multiple cores [10:56:14] ndushay | except we are about to combine multiple shards that are not entirely alike. [10:56:18] tokeee | Distribution in the Solr/Lucene world has always been a tricky issue due to the term stat based ranking. As long as one can stay on single machines, everything is a lot easier [10:56:19] ---| ---> jrochkind [~jrochkind@156-56-58-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:57:19] robcaSSon | ndushay: curious about the sharding....are you just getting indexes that large? [10:57:28] decasm_ | sharting? [10:57:42] robcaSSon | or just separate document types that don't collapse well.... [10:57:48] robcaSSon | decasm+- # eww [10:57:49] ndushay | robcaSSon: no, it's because we're combining image metadata with our marc metadata for a single search [10:58:05] ndushay | and right now it seems easier than one index. but that may be a bad assumption. [10:58:33] ndushay | another developer is doing the image metadata to Solr, and we hammered out a universal schema. [10:58:33] robcaSSon | ndushay: i harvest some image collections into our solr index...just DC, so i just push it all together [10:58:42] robcaSSon | ndushay: gotcha [10:59:48] ---| ---> publicuser [~chatzilla@156-56-58-105.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:00:01] ndushay | tests++ [11:00:01] ---| <<-- rsinger [~rsinger@host-68-169-158-195.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:00:57] MrDys | @quote add I did write the book on ant...so... [11:00:58] zoia | MrDys: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [11:01:14] tokeee | ndushay: We're merging about 14 different sources, going from full MARC to rudimentary custom metadata for recorded TV into the same index. It works surprising well [11:01:26] MrDys | @quote add I did write the book on ant...so... [11:01:27] zoia | MrDys: The operation succeeded. Quote #2502 added. [11:01:28] robcaSSon | erikhatcher++ [11:01:40] ndushay | tokeee: the problem is weaning the marc folks down to a more rudimentary index. [11:01:56] robcaSSon | @eightball are librarians always the problem? [11:01:56] zoia | robcaSSon: No chance. [11:02:07] robcaSSon | zoia: spoken like a librarian [11:02:07] zoia | robcaSSon: http://www.stopabductions.com/ [11:02:10] ndushay | I let them get too out of control on the index - my bad. my very bad. [11:02:32] ---| User: *** publicuser is now known as karenl [11:02:46] ---| ---> eddies [~eddies@unaffiliated/eddies] has joined #code4lib [11:02:52] tokeee | ndushay: Bad for you. We've managed to keep them at bay by adopting one into our group and brainwashing her [11:03:19] ndushay | it's actually my fault. I could have avoided it if I had been thinking far enough ahead. [11:03:25] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: maxxkrakoa) [11:03:38] BillDueber_ | ndushay: Is it a problem to have a complex index? Ours is pretty complex, but once set up we don't worry about it much. [11:03:49] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:04:07] ---| User: *** karenl is now known as karenh [11:04:12] ---| <<-- karenh [~chatzilla@156-56-58-105.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:04:14] ndushay | BillDueber_: I'll let you know after we get single search for marc + image metadata working nicely together. [11:04:39] BillDueber_ | ndushay: Ah. Mixing and matching. I can see where that'd be a problem. [11:04:55] robcaSSon | BillDueber_: frankly, my schema is a bit of a mess, but seems to be working "well enough" [11:05:05] ndushay | BillDueber_: I would bet we have one of the most complex marc based indexes [11:05:58] eby | Marc-- [11:06:25] ndushay | are all of these features in Solr 1.5? [11:06:38] MrDys | ndushay: some are, some aren't [11:06:40] BillDueber_ | ndushay: Nope [11:06:42] ndushay | when will Solr 1.5 be released? [11:06:52] MrDys | ndushay: a lot of this is just coming out of trunk [11:06:56] knickum | some are trunk/4.0+ (?) [11:07:04] BillDueber_ | ndushay: They're gonna call it version 3, and "sometime soon" [11:07:06] MrDys | some of it is getting backported to 3.1...but that's not guarenteed [11:07:11] tokeee | March, I think. Bu Erik wouldn't promise anything [11:07:12] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:07:43] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:07:50] ndushay | "interesting open issues" ??????? [11:07:52] mjg_ | I'm hungry. [11:07:54] ndushay | === bugs? [11:08:07] ndushay | nice spin. [11:08:11] knickum | features [11:08:18] ---| <--- BillDueber_ [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:08:30] ---| ---> BillDueber_ [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:08:33] knickum | bugs === features [11:08:39] ---| <--- BillDueber_ [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:08:55] ndushay | "interesting open features" === it's broken. [11:08:56] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:10:13] robcaSSon | @translationparty tengo hambre [11:10:22] zoia | robcaSSon: Tengohanbure [11:10:48] ndushay | this conference always makes me feel ignorant. [11:11:00] BillDueber | ndushay: Me too. It's due to our ignorance. [11:11:10] ndushay | BillDueber++ [11:11:49] ---| ---> jlhardes [8cb6e585@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.133] has joined #code4lib [11:11:57] ndushay | advanced search with XMLQueryParser sounds good, but I dread the xsl [11:12:00] ---| ---> dfunk_ [~dfunk@d-128-193-235.bootp.Virginia.EDU] has joined #code4lib [11:12:06] ndushay | xsl breaks my head if it's complex at all. [11:12:07] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [11:12:08] zoia | There are two kinds of people in this world: those that are helpful and mjg_. [11:12:18] mbklein | Ain't that the truth [11:12:25] ---| <<-- dfunk [~dfunk@137.54.32.44] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:12:26] ndushay | sounds like it shouldn't be too bad, though. [11:12:28] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@nt-126-76.lib.purdue.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:12:45] ndushay | remediating dublin core via xsl was not fun. [11:13:00] MrDys | I rather like xsl, except for when you have to hack it to do basic programming things [11:13:13] BillDueber | @scalia remediating dublin core via xsl was not fun. [11:13:14] zoia | BillDueber: remediating dublin 'core' via xsl was not fun. [11:13:18] robcaSSon | ndushay++ # the tagging/localparams works damn well enuff [11:13:21] ndushay | it's okay for what it does [11:13:22] ---| <<-- jrochkind [~jrochkind@156-56-58-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [11:13:23] MrDys | doing our dspace design with xsl was rather fun [11:13:31] MrDys | what am I talking about? nothing with dspace is fun [11:13:31] robcaSSon | @urbandict fun [11:13:32] zoia | robcaSSon: fun: Spongebob's Definition: F- is for friends who do stuff together! U- is for you and me! N- is for anywhere and anytime at all down here in the deep blue sea! Plankton's Definition: F- is for FIRE that burns down the whole town! U- is for URANIUM... bombs! N- is for NO SURVIVAL WHEN YOU... Spongebob and Plankton together: F- is for Frolic through all the flowers U- is for ukelele N- is for nose pickin(not what u (4 more messages) [11:13:34] mbklein | @tweet Looking forward to the vendor tables at #c4l11. I hear THEARCHITECT.COM is giving away ferrets! [11:13:35] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [11:13:43] ndushay | it's the not being able to use a variable as anything other than a constant that gets me. [11:13:52] ---| ---> rsinger [~rsinger@host-68-169-158-195.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #code4lib [11:13:54] tokeee | ndushay: Actually we trained our adopted librarian to do XSLT. Win win all alround as it frees us from touching the stuff most of the time [11:14:07] mbklein | That would be funnier if THEARCHITECT.COM didn't point to an actual architect's web site. Oops. [11:14:20] mbklein | @tweet Looking forward to the vendor tables at #c4l11. I hear THEARCHITECT.INFO is giving away ferrets! [11:14:22] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [11:14:23] BillDueber | tokeee: That's like training a dog to bang its head against the wall [11:14:24] ndushay | tokeee: what, their heads are already so sideways that a recursive language with no variables makes sense to them? [11:14:34] robcaSSon | lucidimagination++ [11:14:37] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@140-182-248-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cbeer_) [11:14:39] ndushay | we have an xsl fluent librarian as well. probably more than 1. [11:14:39] tokeee | ndushay: I think you've got a point [11:14:46] MrDys | BillDueber: you'd be surprised how eager some cataloggers are to learn something like xsl [11:14:56] ---| ---> royt [~royt@adsl-67-121-144-66.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #code4lib [11:14:57] * BillDueber has high hopes for the XML query stuff [11:15:25] ndushay | I agree with BillDueber - it does sound like it has potential [11:15:28] royt | @herald add royt Look! A loser who couldn't make it to the conference just walked in! [11:15:29] zoia | royt: The operation succeeded. [11:15:38] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@140-182-248-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:15:43] robcaSSon | MrDys: and some of the "digital humanities" folks too [11:15:57] MrDys | robcaSSon: yeah it'd be nice if we had some of those [11:16:04] royt | wow, lots of folks in here today in the run-up to the conf [11:16:09] ndushay | @zoai quote "I'm still trying to understand our marketing people - Erik Hatcher" [11:16:10] zoia | ndushay: I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further. [11:16:47] ndushay | royt: we are not having any fun without you. [11:16:54] robcaSSon | royt: seems like quite a few folks for the preconfs this year, but don't know numbers [11:17:02] royt | ndushay: right ;-) [11:17:03] mjg_ | mbklein++ [11:17:15] ndushay | time for the luv fest: [11:17:20] ndushay | BillDueber++ [11:17:21] royt | @quote add "I'm still trying to understand our marketing people - Erik Hatcher" [11:17:22] zoia | royt: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [11:17:24] ndushay | mbklein++ [11:17:27] ndushay | MrDys++ [11:17:31] ndushay | mjg_++ [11:17:37] ndushay | royt++ [11:17:43] ndushay | anarchivist++ [11:17:48] ---| <<-- fowbar [8cb6f9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.229] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:17:48] BillDueber | @quote add erikhatcher I'm still trying to understand our marketing people [11:17:49] zoia | BillDueber: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [11:17:49] ndushay | tokeee++ [11:18:04] mbklein | zoia! [11:18:04] zoia | mbklein! [11:18:12] BillDueber | @quote add erikhatcher I'm still trying to understand our marketing people [11:18:13] zoia | BillDueber: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [11:18:27] royt | @quote add "I'm still trying to understand our marketing people - Erik Hatcher" [11:18:27] zoia | royt: The operation succeeded. Quote #2503 added. [11:18:39] * royt raises fist [11:18:47] ndushay | royt++ [11:18:55] MrDys | please, royt, don't hurt 'em [11:19:03] royt | lol [11:19:13] ndushay | fisting is not permitted in the code4lib channel. [11:19:20] royt | rotfl [11:19:21] ---| ---> hkm [9c383a68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.104] has joined #code4lib [11:19:21] BillDueber | royt: Are you not coming, or just not here yet? [11:19:26] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:19:33] MrDys | http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/762532422db4d461a2c6d5270a62e19b/6736.jpg [11:19:41] * tokeee is the one with the black T-Shirt with the yellow star, btw. Second timer @ code4lib (would have been third timer if not for snow and a timid pilot) [11:19:42] royt | BillDueber: can't, they scheduled a twice-yearly multi-day meeting this week that I can't miss [11:19:47] ndushay | i apologize to anyone I offended. I can't help myself. [11:19:50] MrDys | if only I had photoshop open, I could do something with that album cover... [11:19:54] MrDys | oh wait I do [11:20:13] BillDueber | royt: Well, that's ok. I mean, a three day meeting in Ohio is...err...kinda the same... [11:20:24] mbklein | ndushay: That's two for two. Don't make me give you the brochure. [11:20:30] royt | BillDueber: San Mateo, so not as bad as all that [11:20:32] ndushay | royt that was INCREDIBLY stupid of them. code4lib not important to OCLC? [11:20:47] royt | ndushay: no, just not important to my boss [11:21:13] royt | well, shouldn't say that, the dates are determined well in advance, unlike C4L [11:21:20] ndushay | mbklein: I went to that class too. I just lack the part of the brain that keeps folks from blurting out what they are thinking [11:21:32] eby | @blame iCal [11:21:33] zoia | eby: iCal tried to use NoSQL [11:21:37] ndushay | this is why I don't need alcohol [11:22:04] * eby will take ndushay 's share [11:22:31] ndushay | sadly, the one time I got a bit tipsy, I just got a lot louder. [11:22:54] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:23:17] decasm_ | royt: am i the only one here this year? [11:23:26] decasm_ | say it aint so. [11:23:42] MrDys | here we go: http://i.imgur.com/EuK04.jpg [11:23:44] MrDys | royt: you're welcome [11:23:56] ndushay | deeeeemian? [11:24:10] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:24:12] ndushay | daemon? [11:24:14] ndushay | demon? [11:24:39] ---| ---> wickr_ [~wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [11:25:25] ---| <<-- wickr [~wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:25:54] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: scotthanrath) [11:26:12] ---| <--- awead [~awead@140-182-231-104.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:27:15] yitznewton | MrDys++ [11:27:19] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [11:27:41] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [11:27:42] yitznewton | tennant time [11:27:52] ndushay | is that like miller time? [11:28:36] eby | But with scotch [11:28:43] akorphan | cbeer time? [11:28:55] eby | @whiskey royt [11:28:57] * zoia pours a shot of Fettercairn and sends it sliding down the bar to royt (http://whisky.com/brands/fettercairn_brand.html) [11:30:15] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [11:30:16] zoia | it's all obst's fault [11:30:33] royt | eby++ [11:30:44] ---| <<-- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: leaving) [11:31:02] royt | decasm_: no, Karen Coombs will be there [11:31:25] mcdonald1 | have you guys seen sink the biz at nick's english hut - maybe you could try that with scotch - [11:31:30] royt | MrDys++ [11:31:41] royt | MrDys: but your Photoshop skills need some practice ;-) [11:31:51] gsf | i'm on freenode! [11:32:03] MrDys | royt: look at the timestamps, from creation to posting that took 3 minutes [11:32:13] BillDueber | Did erik talk about the realtime stuff at all and I missed it? [11:32:22] royt | MrDys: :-) [11:32:44] royt | MrDys: In that case, excellent work [11:32:52] tokeee | BillDueber: A little bit with the cahces on segment level [11:33:13] ---| <<-- jlhardes [8cb6e585@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.133] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:33:16] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dbh_) [11:33:18] tokeee | BillDueber: But no, not the part about getting readers from writers and such [11:33:58] ndushay | Is everyone going to leave before 11am thursday? can I avoid actually giving my presentation? [11:34:09] ---| <--- jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [11:34:35] gsf | protip: for those on ubuntu machines who can't get online at the conference so are tethered to their t-mobile android phone, you need sasl for irssi to connect to freenode [11:34:51] atz | gsf++ [11:35:44] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Quit: Goodbye World) [11:36:48] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140-182-250-153.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: flyingzumwalt) [11:37:14] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:37:18] ---| ---> gsf__ [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [11:37:22] ---| <--- mcdonald1 [~Adium@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has left #code4lib () [11:37:49] ---| <<-- gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has quit (Disconnected by services) [11:37:53] ---| User: *** gsf__ is now known as gsf [11:38:26] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140.182.250.153] has joined #code4lib [11:39:02] ---| User: *** chelociraptor_ is now known as chelociraptor [11:39:10] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [11:39:16] jbrinley | @quote random [11:39:17] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #2251: " but i am a lazy bastard morno government employee" (added by mjgiarlo at 04:10 PM, April 05, 2010) [11:39:18] dbs | @hate not being at code4lib [11:39:20] zoia | dbs: The operation succeeded. dbs hates not being at code4lib. 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(added by ksclarke at 04:43 PM, March 30, 2007) [11:44:53] gsf | willkurt++ this is the classiest pre-conf [11:45:32] gsf | i feel like i'm learning [11:45:55] chelociraptor | gsf: is that a rare feeling? [11:46:09] mcdonald1 | gsf: which pre-conference? [11:46:13] ndushay | @quote add "oh what a feeling" [11:46:13] zoia | ndushay: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [11:46:41] gsf | chelociraptor: in a classroom setting, yes [11:46:42] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@140-182-250-153.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:46:58] ---| <--- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:47:02] gsf | mcdonald1: functional javascript [11:47:15] mcdonald1 | gsf: cool [11:47:41] ---| ---> cwlown [~cwlown@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:50:19] maccabee | hungry... [11:50:30] ndushay | also hungry ... [11:50:35] chelociraptor | me too [11:50:39] * chelocirapto noms the keyboard [11:50:50] MrDys | I just chewed the hell out of a coffee stirrer [11:50:58] ---| <--- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has left #code4lib () [11:51:12] decasm_ | will kurt, he makes learning, learningier [11:51:27] * BillDueber misses having two screens: one with work, one with irc [11:52:10] ndushay | lllllllllunch???? [11:52:21] hdl | atz: from the tests we did, it was really doing good out of the box. [11:52:29] ---| <<-- ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:52:32] akorphan | Green elf needs food, badly! [11:52:46] atz | hdl: great. [11:52:54] ---| <<-- chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has quit () [11:52:59] ---| <<-- mlevy [9c383a39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.57] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:53:00] hdl | atz: but maybe we missed some important points. or use cases [11:53:09] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [11:53:13] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Quit: emcrens has no reason) [11:53:36] hdl | our knowledge in arabic or chinese are somewhat limited [11:53:37] ---| <<-- codemonkey [8cb6f928@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.40] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:53:46] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[12:43:14] mbklein | I finally finished cleaning up the mess I was working on. [12:43:17] eby | Just me [12:43:17] ---| ---> tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has joined #code4lib [12:43:21] eby | But sure [12:43:28] mbklein | ah ok [12:43:30] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-231-152.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:43:35] mbklein | Frites sounds gooood. :) [12:43:47] eby | Kind of like hopleaf [12:43:49] eby | Mussels [12:43:52] eby | Frites [12:43:57] eby | Couple Belgians [12:44:03] eby | And micro [12:44:25] was | Anyone going to hear Michael Chabon tonight? http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/16858.html [12:45:49] petercline | eby: wait, what's this? what place is kind of like hopleaf? [12:46:17] eby | Well kind is being nice [12:46:26] eby | But that style of menu [12:46:40] petercline | well, that's being nice to almost any place that isn't hopleaf [12:46:51] eby | Finch's [12:47:38] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:47:45] petercline | great, thanks. btw, went to yogi's last night. kind of fratty but they have a great tap list [12:48:13] eby | Seems most of this town has at least a few good taps [12:48:15] petercline | as in: 40+ beers on, lots of regionals, well chosen selection otherwise [12:49:00] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:49:47] eby | Service ok [12:50:01] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:50:15] eby | Seems like places I go with large tap lists [12:50:28] eby | There is never anyone to pour them [12:50:29] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:51:11] petercline | i didn't have any trouble getting beer. once they caught you at the bar, they'd always ask about my next choice when my current one was at ~10% full [12:52:15] petercline | though one of the bartenders was completely clueless. brought me a bottle of Goose Island's pere jaques instead of the draft GI matilda i ordered. I talked to the other bartender after that [12:52:16] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@140-182-250-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:52:19] * eby know questions going back for afternoon [12:52:40] ---| <<-- eddies [~eddies@unaffiliated/eddies] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[13:40:48] mjg_ | eby: I dunno who all has keys. neither robert nor I are there, I can say. [13:41:05] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:41:05] zoia | I saw Lon Cheney Jr. walking down the street [13:41:26] mbklein | zoia: Doing the Werewolves of London? [13:41:28] zoia | mbklein: One of the records has a bad value in some column [13:42:11] ---| <<-- Guest86555 [~quassel@ip-109-41-167-169.web.vodafone.de] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:42:34] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:43:21] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:33] ---| ---> maccabee [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:33] ---| User: *** maccabee is now known as maccabee_ [13:44:41] mbklein | Hey, look…In 3 weeks, the #code4lib channel will be 5 years old! [13:44:53] mbklein | Registered : Feb 24 18:31:37 2006 (4 years, 49 weeks, 6 days, 00:10:17 ago) [13:45:02] dchud | so we'll be ready for kindergarten? [13:45:15] mbklein | dchud: Almost! Third year nursery, I think. [13:45:29] mbklein | dchud: Although some of us (looks at mjg_) might be held back. [13:45:39] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@140-182-148-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:02] * mjg_ stabs mbklein with a crayon [13:46:14] mbklein | Anyone want to guess/remember (without looking at the ChanServ record) who the official channel founder is, according to Freenode? [13:46:24] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:24] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:29] * mbklein sticks paste up mjg_'s nose [13:46:33] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:46] ndushay | cbeer: where are you? [13:48:07] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:48:23] ---| ---> younga [~lazlo2@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:27] cbeer_ | ndushay: fangipani? [13:48:40] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:40] ndushay | for what session? [13:49:30] cbeer_ | ndushay: the hackfest is in here -- where is blacklight? [13:49:39] ndushay | oooo [13:49:42] ndushay | i'm in the unconferenc3 [13:50:01] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:50:18] ---| ---> MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:50:19] zoia | my life is now complete [13:50:21] cbeer_ | ndushay: hm -- i guess i didn't know they were different things [13:50:47] cbeer_ | dogwood, huh. [13:50:49] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:50:52] ndushay | this is afternoon only [13:50:59] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:51:01] ndushay | less focused [13:51:42] mjg_ | mbklein: I thought it was tholbroo [13:51:53] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [13:52:09] tholbroo | I have the power. [13:52:24] ndushay | cbeer: jroch is here [13:52:27] gsf | cbeer: how's fangipani? [13:52:28] tholbroo | But there's at least a dozen others with admin acces [13:52:53] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [13:53:18] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:53:18] zoia | Is that... J from Dinosaur Jr? [13:54:03] tholbroo | and I'm not the founder, I was just given the channel for some reason that I forget now [13:54:32] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:54:34] mbklein | tholbroo: Quit denying it. It's all your fault. [13:54:47] MrDys | zoia++ [13:55:04] mbklein | robcaSSon's_herald++ [13:55:06] mjg_ | cbeer: looks like many of the folks from the AM are back in their original groups [13:55:09] mjg_ | errr [13:55:12] mbklein | @blame tholbroo [13:55:12] zoia | mbklein: tholbroo, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it. [13:55:14] mjg_ | gsf: looks like many of the folks from the AM are back in their original groups [13:55:22] tholbroo | It's true, I am the cause of all the wasted library tech time [13:55:28] BigD | mbklein: Are u back at the Hackfest? [13:55:32] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:55:41] BillDueber | Does unconfernece == hackfest??? [13:55:49] cbeer_ | BillDueber: no [13:55:50] mjg_ | BillDueber: naw, different rooms [13:55:51] BigD | BillDueber: Nope [13:56:01] gsf | BillDueber: yes [13:56:03] cbeer_ | BillDueber: and located at completely different ends of the building [13:56:04] mbklein | BigD: For the moment, but the rest of my original group is missing. [13:56:12] mjg_ | we have a couple groups in the hackfest who have actual projects to work on now [13:56:42] BillDueber | cbeer: What room? [13:56:44] mjg_ | and otherwise we're sitting here on IRC [13:56:50] * BillDueber is gonna come find the hackfest. [13:56:52] cbeer_ | BillDueber: hackfest is in frang [13:56:56] gsf | okay i feel like wandering [13:56:59] cbeer_ | BillDueber: i'll go with you. 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[13:57:48] ---| User: *** MarkMounts_ is now known as Mounts [13:58:50] eby | @bartender [13:58:51] * zoia fills a pint glass with Brewhouse Brown Ale, and sends it sliding down the bar to eby (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/458/2299/) [13:59:20] ---| <<-- MarkMounts [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:59:25] ---| ---> ccurry [8cb6fb1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.26] has joined #code4lib [13:59:25] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:59:30] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156.56.58.174] has joined #code4lib [13:59:47] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:00:54] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:01:00] ---| ---> MrDys- [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:01:07] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-228-253.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:01:14] ---| ---> jlhardes [8cb6e585@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.133] has joined #code4lib [14:01:20] akorphan | Math is hard. [14:01:23] akorphan | Let's go shoppig. [14:01:29] akorphan | err. [14:01:30] akorphan | shopping. [14:01:33] akorphan | typing is hard [14:01:35] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:01:55] akorphan | @cyborg cazzerson [14:01:57] zoia | akorphan: C.A.Z.Z.E.R.S.O.N.: Cybernetic Artificial Zetazoid Zoned for Efficient Repair, Sabotage and Online Nullification [14:01:58] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:01:59] zoia | I saw Lon Cheney Jr. walking down the street [14:02:02] eby | s/shopping/drinking [14:02:07] jlhardes | Hey, note from the Registration Desk - Lightning Talk Signup is available on the wiki: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_Lightning_Talks_Signup [14:02:14] mbklein | @ana blacklight hackfest [14:02:15] zoia | mbklein: Fight blackest chalk [14:02:25] ---| <<-- MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:02:41] bess | when does the drinking start, people? I was promised alcohol. [14:02:47] erikhatcher | is there some blacklight hacking going on somewhere? [14:02:59] eby | Started long ago [14:03:08] ---| User: *** MrDys- is now known as MrDys [14:03:15] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:03:25] BillDueber | erikhatcher: In the frangipani room [14:03:33] mbklein | erikhatcher: Frangipani [14:03:34] ---| ---> yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has joined #code4lib [14:03:57] mjg_ | @decide shoppig or shopping [14:03:57] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:03:58] zoia | mjg_: go with shoppig [14:04:02] erikhatcher | thanks! i'll see if i can make it down in a while [14:04:18] akorphan | @decide shopping or drinking [14:04:19] zoia | akorphan: go with shopping [14:04:22] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@140-182-250-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:23] akorphan | Huh. [14:04:42] ---| ---> maccabee__ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:42] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:50] tholbroo | go with drunk shopping [14:05:08] mjg_ | mbklein: so, who founded the channel? I shouldn't have to check that myself. [14:05:28] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:05:40] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: erikhatcher) [14:05:55] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156.56.58.174] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:06:10] mbklein | mjg_: Officially, tholbroo. Which tholbroo denies. [14:06:18] mbklein | But who wouldn't? 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[14:06:52] ---| <<-- maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:07:19] BigD | Hush [14:07:25] ---| ---> helrond [9c383a19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.25] has joined #code4lib [14:07:27] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@140-182-250-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:07:27] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:07:50] ---| <<-- jenny1 [~Jenny_Tur@199.17.248.17] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:08:13] ---| <<-- ccurry [8cb6fb1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.26] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:08:19] ---| <<-- morgan8_ [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:08:32] ---| ---> cwlown [~cwlown@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:08:37] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@140-182-250-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:08:44] ---| ---> Tokee [~tokee@156-56-58-42.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:08:52] mjg_ | blacklight -- that's like Summon but a lot cheaper? [14:09:19] mbklein | mjg_: Also without the content. [14:09:20] MrDys | hmm...so there's a wiki signup page for lightning talks...don't we usually hold signups the day of? [14:09:21] BillDueber | mjg_: No, it's like VuFind, but the same price [14:09:22] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:09:27] mbklein | mjg_: And we make it up in volume. [14:09:29] mbklein | BillDueber++ [14:10:20] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@140-182-249-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: rjhoyle) [14:10:24] ---| ---> bbpennel [9c383a51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.81] has joined #code4lib [14:10:49] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:10:52] scolford | Every time someone says "petabyte" all I think is "pedophile". [14:13:04] ---| <<-- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:13:16] jlhardes | We have 3 days of lightning talks and folks have been asking, so we thought we'd go ahead and put the signup out there. [14:13:28] ---| ---> knickum_ [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:13:49] ---| ---> coconut_ [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has joined #code4lib [14:13:59] ---| ---> Guest85922 [~quassel@ip-109-41-167-169.web.vodafone.de] has joined #code4lib [14:14:15] ---| <<-- Guest85922 [~quassel@ip-109-41-167-169.web.vodafone.de] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:14:20] MrDys | jlhardes: I guess I'm just concerned that the slots will fill up before the conference has even officially started [14:15:04] mbklein | Ditto. Part of what makes lightning talks great is that it allows some topics to grow organically out of stuff other people talk about. [14:15:18] ---| <<-- ccurry_ [8cb6fb1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.26] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:15:20] mbklein | If all the signups happen before the conference, that influence is gone. [14:15:25] BillDueber | Yeah -- maybe take them down? [14:16:03] wickr_ | already 3 signed up [14:16:08] ---| User: *** wickr_ is now known as wickr [14:16:33] mbklein | jlhardes: No criticism intended -- I appreciate the desire to be proactive. Just sharing my thoughts. [14:16:42] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:17:38] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:05] jlhardes | ok, how about we remove wednesday and thursday from the schedule for now and leave tuesday in place? we'll preserve those who have signed up so far for wednesday and thursday. [14:18:14] ---| ---> ccurry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has joined #code4lib [14:18:19] mbklein | jlhardes: Sounds like a good compromise to me. [14:18:27] wickr | jodi just sent out a note about it [14:18:28] jlhardes | ok, we'll do that. [14:18:30] wickr | I'd just leave it up now [14:19:48] ---| ---> sesuncedu [~Adium@pool-108-28-169-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [14:21:53] ---| <<-- bbpennel [9c383a51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.81] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:21:56] jwd | What do folks think about the Breakout Sessions page? Also wait to announce until tomorrow when conf officially starts? [14:21:57] ---| ---> decasm_ [~decasm@156-56-58-30.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:22:27] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:22:50] jwd | Looks like it's been up for a while, and some have already signed up, but was not linked from schedule [14:23:45] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:24:54] jlhardes | Lightning Talk sign-up is available for Tuesday only now. I will contact the 3 people who signed up for Wednesday and let them know they are still on the schedule for Wednesday. Thanks for the feedback everyone! [14:26:53] ---| ---> alxp_ [~aoneill@blk-30-155-121.eastlink.ca] has joined #code4lib [14:27:21] ---| User: *** knickum_ is now known as knickum [14:29:00] decasm_ | cafe django: why you no weekday breakfast?? 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[14:37:23] ---| <<-- coconut_ [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:38:18] MrDys | it's true. I saw the celebratory gesture [14:39:03] ---| <<-- akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:39:38] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: robcaSSon) [14:40:13] gsf | @whereis mbklein [14:40:13] zoia | gsf: Put down the doughnut and slowly back away. NOW. [14:43:04] mbklein | gsf: mbklein is in the Frangipani room, IU Memorial Union, Bloomington, Indiana, United States, North America, Western Hemisphere, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way... [14:43:43] ---| <<-- jwd [~jwd@140-182-228-253.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [14:44:13] ---| <<-- younga [~lazlo2@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:44:23] mbklein | @dance MrDys [14:44:24] zoia | o/ [14:44:25] zoia | /| [14:44:26] zoia | >> [14:44:33] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156.56.58.16] has joined #code4lib [14:44:36] mbklein | (celebratory gesture) [14:45:23] ---| ---> coconut_ [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has joined #code4lib [14:45:23] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-228-253.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:45:26] cbeer_ | mbklein: ordered hashes? [14:45:34] helrond | no more coffee for anarchivist [14:45:43] mbklein | cbeer_: Yes. Keys are guaranteed to stay in insertion order. [14:46:08] mbklein | cbeer_: It will make things like the Blacklight field config a lot cleaner. :) [14:46:12] anarchivist | @mf helrond [14:46:12] zoia | Hey, helrond... [14:46:13] zoia | .-. [14:46:14] zoia | |-| [14:46:15] zoia | | | [14:46:16] zoia | _.-|=|-. [14:46:17] zoia | / | | | | [14:46:18] zoia | | |\ [14:46:19] zoia | | / [14:46:20] zoia | \ /` [14:46:21] zoia | | | [14:47:02] tholbroo | I'm looking at building something like this search tool at NCSU. They say they're using Yahoo! services for the "did you mean..." part, but I can't see anywhere on the Yahoo developer tools that mentions this. Anyone know how to get at it? http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/search/about.html [14:47:52] ---| <<-- skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:47:57] sesuncedu | mbkelin: so ruby is catching up to java 1.4? [14:48:04] ---| <<-- jlhardes [8cb6e585@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.133] has quit () [14:49:11] dbs | tholbroo: http://developer.yahoo.com/search/web/V1/spellingSuggestion.html (shutting down in December 2010?) [14:49:47] tholbroo | dbs: thank you [14:49:47] dbs | replaced by YQL - innarestin [14:49:49] mbklein | sesuncedu: No, I'm talking about an actual Hash. Not a HashFactoryFactoryFactory. [14:49:58] dbs | http://query.yahooapis.com/v1/public/yql?q=select%20*%20from%20search.spelling%20where%20query%3D%22madnna%22&diagnostics=true [14:50:08] mbklein | sesuncedu: Sorry… Make that AbstractHashFactoryFactoryFactory [14:50:18] ---| <<-- codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:50:48] lbjay | anyplace nearby with food, beer & wifi? [14:51:04] sesuncedu | mbklein: Map = new LinkedHashMap(); // Keep your weasels in order [14:51:34] cwlown | tholbroo: I spend a lot of time working on NCSU's search tool. Happy to chat about it if you want [14:51:43] sesuncedu | Map weasels, I mean. Command-X != Command-C [14:51:59] eby | dbs: They offer suggestions through boss API as well [14:52:05] lbjay | and what is this Upland Brewery -> Yogi's business? [14:52:43] mbklein | lbjay: Upland doesn't take reservations. Showing up with 20-something people seemed to be a Bad Idea™. [14:52:46] sesuncedu | Did You Mean... suggestions can be done using fuzzy string comparisons [14:52:49] lbjay | @hussein Ying Ding [14:52:50] zoia | lbjay: In geniuss dinghy [14:52:54] dbs | mmm, json: http://query.yahooapis.com/v1/public/yql?q=select%20*%20from%20search.spelling%20where%20query%3D%22madnna%22&format=json&callback=cbfunc [14:53:00] sesuncedu | Frankenshtein distances [14:53:22] ---| <<-- mcdonald1 [~Adium@140-182-148-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:53:28] ---| ---> mcdonald [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:53:30] mbklein | sesuncedu: Are you trying to combine the topics? Fuzzy weasel map comparisons? [14:53:41] tholbroo | cwlown: cool, thanks! I have something very similar (and very influenced by) that tool working now.. just fleshing out some of the "extra" things it could do. Has it been well received at NCSU? There's some resistance here from a few librarians. [14:53:44] ---| ---> jwd_ [~jwd@156-56-58-202.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:53:50] lbjay | mbklein: but why *all* groups? [14:54:16] anarchivist | lbjay: Upland Brewery is closed [14:54:22] lbjay | oh [14:54:27] anarchivist | lbjay: they are doing employee appreciation night tonight [14:54:34] anarchivist | lbjay: and are closing the kitchen at 4:30 [14:54:36] lbjay | @mf employees [14:54:37] zoia | Hey, employees... [14:54:38] zoia | .-. [14:54:39] zoia | |-| [14:54:40] zoia | | | [14:54:41] zoia | _.-|=|-. [14:54:42] zoia | / | | | | [14:54:42] ---| <<-- jwd_ [~jwd@156-56-58-202.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:54:44] zoia | | |\ [14:54:44] zoia | | / [14:54:45] zoia | \ /` [14:54:46] zoia | | | [14:55:09] sesuncedu | mbklein: You don't have to use actual weasels [14:55:25] cwlown | tholbroo: It's been working in some form since 2005? and started as a lightweight library website search. So not much resistance that I know of. It became more prominent with the web redesign in fall 2010 [14:55:38] ---| <<-- jwd [~jwd@140-182-228-253.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:55:45] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [14:56:01] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dbh_) [14:56:57] tholbroo | cwlown: Ah, okay. We just got Summon last year and after looking at lots of our stats it's pretty obvious that most users just type their search into the first box they see on our home page (which is Summon now), so my hope is to replace our various search options with this. [14:57:12] mbklein | employees-- [14:57:54] archivist | employers-- [14:58:01] archivist | I need a job [14:58:12] dchud | funny, we're out of capacity in the amazon aws availability zone *again*. [14:58:31] mbklein | dchud: How so? [14:58:46] dchud | errors say: no capacity available left in this availability zone. [14:58:51] dchud | we saw that yesterday too [14:58:57] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:58:59] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [14:59:02] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [14:59:03] sesuncedu | dchud: Did you try turning it off and on again? [14:59:06] ---| <<-- dericed [~Adium@pool-71-125-31-89.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:59:29] mbklein | dchud: Did you try rebooting the availability zone? ;) [14:59:45] sesuncedu | Cloud: no reset button [14:59:50] knickum | jiggle the cord? [15:00:03] gsf | @dunno add this is not a punchscreen display [15:00:03] zoia | gsf: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [15:00:04] archivist | reboot on and off...are you all windows admins [15:00:13] mbklein | DELETE FROM availability_zone WHERE stuff IS someone_else's; [15:00:18] gsf | @dunno add this is not a punchscreen display [15:00:18] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1113 added. [15:00:40] mbklein | @ana punchscreen display [15:00:40] zoia | mbklein: Sunny, crippled aches [15:01:09] gsf | uh oh, jrock's on his feet [15:01:14] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:01:18] mbklein | gsf++ [15:01:32] mbklein | He's got a marker, and he's not afraid to use it. [15:02:19] ---| <<-- mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [15:02:56] sesuncedu | Somebody netmask all of UI [15:03:01] sesuncedu | IU even [15:03:02] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [15:04:39] ---| ---> ntra [9c383a78@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.120] has joined #code4lib [15:05:15] ---| <<-- scotthanrath_ [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: scotthanrath_) [15:05:39] ---| ---> akohler [a4439833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.67.152.51] has joined #code4lib [15:06:02] sesuncedu | Page 26, http://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf [15:06:20] ---| ---> helrond_ [9c383a19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.25] has joined #code4lib [15:06:52] sesuncedu | Ah - here. http://www.dourish.com/goodies/suns-boot-fast.html [15:07:23] ---| <<-- codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:07:23] ---| <<-- ccurry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:07:23] ---| <<-- helrond [9c383a19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.25] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:07:23] ---| <<-- tracyjo [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:07:23] ---| <<-- mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:07:44] ---| ---> asl2 [~asl2@ip67-152-142-178.z142-152-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #code4lib [15:07:48] ---| <<-- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:07:48] ---| <<-- das [9c383aa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.166] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:07:48] ---| <<-- tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:08:13] ---| <<-- coconut_ [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:08:14] ---| <<-- hkm [9c383a68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.104] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:08:34] ---| ---> ccurry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has joined #code4lib [15:08:55] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: rjhoyle) [15:09:03] ---| <<-- ntra [9c383a78@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.120] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:09:07] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: morgan8) [15:09:49] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [15:11:25] sesuncedu | All those people timing out at almost exactly the same time... it's uncanny [15:12:07] ---| ---> fowbar [9c383acb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.203] has joined #code4lib [15:12:40] mbklein | Freenode has now raised the connection cap. We shouldn't have anyone getting booted or other Freenode-based connection issues through Thursday. [15:12:48] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:13:21] gsf | mbklein++ [15:13:47] MrDys | mbklein is the official freenode liason [15:14:07] mbklein | s/official/de facto/ [15:14:13] sesuncedu | @decide freenode or freebird or stairway [15:14:14] zoia | sesuncedu: go with freenode [15:14:30] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@140-182-250-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: skoczko) [15:14:31] mjg_ | eikeon, edsu: does rdflib 3.0 work with the mysql backend? [15:15:10] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:15:24] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:15:25] mbklein | sesuncedu: Your assignment: Rewrite the "If Microsoft made cars…" essay as "If ILS vendors made cars…" Include a separate section for each vendor. :) [15:16:05] mbklein | "If III made cars, you'd have to get them to buy gas for you. From them. And they'd charge you for delivery and installation." [15:16:12] scolford | mbklein++ [15:16:18] scolford | good challenge there [15:16:22] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [15:16:50] mbklein | Then again, maybe the challenge should be "If ILS vendors made ILSes…" [15:17:03] scolford | SNAP [15:17:29] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:17:57] ---| <<-- Mounts [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:18:30] sesuncedu | mbklein++ [15:18:49] sesuncedu | Instrument Landing Systems [15:19:35] ---| ---> tracyjo [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has joined #code4lib [15:20:12] sesuncedu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEywGpIt0vw [15:20:27] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156.56.58.91] has joined #code4lib [15:20:56] decasm_ | csl [15:22:48] ---| <--- akohler [a4439833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.67.152.51] has left #code4lib () [15:25:45] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:25:46] zoia | Is that... J from Dinosaur Jr? [15:25:58] * mbklein just saw BillDueber's UM login name. Can only assume "dueberb" rhymes with "superb." [15:26:10] was | or rhubarb [15:26:18] ---| ---> yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has joined #code4lib [15:26:19] mbklein | or that. [15:26:30] dchud | mbklein, sesuncedu: i tried editing config.sys but nothing happened [15:27:01] ---| ---> tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has joined #code4lib [15:27:40] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:28:31] mjg_ | I prefer the Italian reading: dway-BAYRB [15:29:39] ---| <<-- atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:30:12] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:30:51] ---| <<-- mcdonald [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[15:40:05] ---| <<-- alxp [~alxp@PC044.ROBLIB.UPEI.CA] has quit (Quit: alxp) [15:40:06] ---| User: *** alxp_ is now known as alxp [15:40:25] ---| <<-- sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@132.198.40.85] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [15:41:22] dchud | mbklein: i wiped the drive and installed os2/warp [15:42:50] MrDys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DloCrXU3koY [15:43:06] mbklein | MrDys++ [15:43:09] gsf | @zalgo [last --from MrDys] [15:43:09] zoia | H̷̴̫̫̫̠̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫͕̫̫͇̫̘̫̫̫̫̫͐ͦ̇̍̄̒́ͦͨͣ̽͒̚T̫̫̫̾̓҈̡̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̽ͯͪͧ̽̆̂͝͏̴̶̡̡̫̫̫̩̫̫̫͓̫̫̤̫̗̫͔̫͚̫̪̫̫̫̫̫̥̫̫̲̫̫̫̫̯̫͎̫̫̪̫̤̫̪̫̫̫̓ͯͣͮͣͭ͒͊́̈͘̚҈̫̫̫̫̫͛́͋̓T̫̫̫̫̫̬̫̫̫̄ͥͦͣ͞͞P̶̨̛̫̥̫̫̫̫̫̫̫̫͕̫̘̫̫̬̫̫̫̫̪̫̫̫̬̫̫̫͎̫̫̫̫̜̫̫͕̫̉̿̋ͥ̊ͯ̅͑ͨ̊͂͛ͧ̔͌̚ (13 more messages) [15:43:23] ---| <--- tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has left #code4lib () [15:43:41] mbklein | MrDys: Because nuns + technology = funny [15:44:35] mbklein | zalgo + irssi = pain [15:44:40] ndushay | mbklein: that's one for you. [15:44:53] ndushay | first warning. [15:45:05] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [15:45:24] wickr | zalgo + irssi + putty = torture [15:45:37] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [15:45:43] ---| <<-- yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:45:56] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [15:45:58] ---| <<-- codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [15:46:11] ---| <<-- djwonk [~david@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit (Quit: djwonk) [15:46:23] ---| ---> mbk_ [~mbklein@174.34.158.35] has joined #code4lib [15:46:32] gsf | wickr: s/torture/nirvana/ [15:46:33] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:46:37] mbk_ | @zalgo --last from gsf [15:46:38] zoia | mbk_: (zalgo [--intensity 1-200] text) -- ZALGO [15:46:41] ---| ---> sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:46:45] mbk_ | @zalgo [last from gsf] [15:46:46] zoia | (̷̧̛̲̝̲̲̲̺̲̻̲̲̺̲̲̲̲̻̲̲̲̲̲̪̲̲̲̥̲̲̲̺̲̲̲̲̘̲̲̲̲͚̲̤̲̲̜̲̲̲̲̱̲̲̲̲̲̗̲̲̲̲̲̲̘̲̖̲͙̲̲̒̑̅ͩ̈́̔́̄ͩ͛̀ͧ͛̆̾͆͛ͯͪ͐̓̀͛̌͢͠͝͝͝ͅL̢̲̭̲̲̲̲̩̲̳̲̣̲̬̲̲̣̲̦̲͚̲̲̙̲̲̲̲̲̰̲ͭ̓̂̌̋̔͋͘Ą̵̡̲̲̲̲̲̲̲̰̲̲̜̲̲̲̳̲̲̲̪̲̙̲̲̲̲̲̲̲̲̲̲̲̲̺̲̲̱̲̲̲͔̲͔̲ͣ̆̔̾̋͋̒̐̒͑ͮ͆̾ͨͥͩ͆̇͊͞͠ͅ (49 more messages) [15:46:55] ---| <<-- mbk_ [~mbklein@174.34.158.35] has quit (Client Quit) [15:47:01] gugek | /sb end [15:47:14] mbklein | OK, forget irssi, putty, or any of the other stuff. zalgo = torture [15:47:56] gsf | mbklein: snowman, on the other hand... [15:48:08] mjg_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454 [15:48:22] mbklein | @snowman [cowbell [last from gsf]] [15:48:23] zoia | ☃(☃☃l☃a☃s☃t☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃[☃-☃-☃{☃f☃r☃o☃m☃,☃i☃n☃,☃o☃n☃,☃w☃i☃t☃h☃,☃w☃i☃t☃h☃o☃u☃t☃,☃r☃e☃g☃e☃x☃p☃}☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃<☃v☃a☃l☃u☃e☃>☃]☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃[☃-☃-☃n☃o☃l☃i☃m☃i☃t☃]☃☃)☃ (12 more messages) [15:48:31] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [15:48:42] mbklein | @snowman [cowbell [last --from gsf]] [15:48:43] zoia | ☃m☃b☃k☃l☃e☃i☃n☃:☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃s☃n☃o☃w☃m☃a☃n☃,☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃o☃n☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃t☃h☃e☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃o☃t☃h☃e☃r☃ ☃*☃c☃o☃w☃b☃e☃l☃l☃*☃ ☃h☃a☃n☃d☃.☃.☃. [15:48:49] ---| ---> djwonk [~david@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #code4lib [15:48:55] ---| ---> akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has joined #code4lib [15:49:10] ---| ---> Richard_UofKY [9c383ad0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.208] has joined #code4lib [15:49:13] mbklein | @who wrote all the worst zoia plugins? [15:49:14] zoia | djwonk wrote all the worst zoia plugins. [15:49:20] mjg_ | mbklein++ [15:49:26] mjg_ | @aussie speak for yourself, mister [15:49:27] zoia | mjg_: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! [15:49:46] djwonk | @who doesn't know what a zoia plugin is? [15:49:46] zoia | jeff doesn't know what a zoia plugin is. [15:50:42] mbklein | mbklein and mjgiarlo…The Johnny Utah and Bodhi of #code4lib. [15:51:04] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:51:04] zoia | Is that... J from Dinosaur Jr? [15:51:44] sesuncedu | That's it. Your Unicode-pant privileges are revoked. [15:53:12] ---| <<-- dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [15:53:42] mbklein | If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love. [15:53:51] mbklein | Vaya con Dios, Brah. [15:54:06] edsu | dchud: i'm over in #ndnp and here if you need any help [15:54:20] edsu | dchud: had to go pick up graham from school, so i stepped out for a bit [15:55:08] robcaSSon | anyone in the hostility suite yet? [15:56:34] edsu | sesuncedu: you up in dc now? [15:56:57] eby | If someone is robcaSSon let me know and I can bring stuff down [15:57:05] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [15:57:11] jbrinley | @who is robcaSSon [15:57:12] zoia | mjg_ is robcaSSon. [15:58:45] ---| ---> tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has joined #code4lib [15:59:00] mjg_ | mbklein: I had to look that up. I have regrets piling upon regrets. [15:59:16] ---| ---> helrond [9c383a19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.25] has joined #code4lib [15:59:18] ---| ---> matts [~matts@home.veggie.fr] has joined #code4lib [15:59:18] ---| <<-- matts [~matts@home.veggie.fr] has quit (Changing host) [15:59:18] ---| ---> matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has joined #code4lib [15:59:24] edsu | mjg_: how did the rest of curatecamp go? [15:59:29] edsu | mjg_: or is it still going on? [15:59:30] sesuncedu | edsu: yeah (well McLean) [15:59:37] mjg_ | robcaSSon: I dunno, but I believe it's open [15:59:51] mjg_ | edsu: still kicking along. have 4-5 groups doing stuff. [15:59:56] edsu | sesuncedu: did you move? or just visiting? [16:00:10] mjg_ | vufind hacking, blacklight hacking, and a couple other groups [16:00:22] edsu | mjg_: nice [16:00:34] edsu | mjg_: so this one is kinda hands-on then eh? [16:00:45] mjg_ | edsu: yup [16:01:09] mjg_ | edsu: useful for folks with a project to work on. less so for others, perhaps [16:01:27] edsu | i wonder how dchud is doing in the ndnp thing [16:01:50] knickum | he just said something about being in the temple... [16:02:37] ---| <<-- skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:02:55] sesuncedu | edsu: I am doing the minimum necessary to keep NC residency for tuition purposes :-) [16:04:22] ---| <<-- matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) [16:04:46] das | ndnp++ [16:05:01] ---| ---> matts [~matts@home.veggie.fr] has joined #code4lib [16:05:01] ---| <<-- matts [~matts@home.veggie.fr] has quit (Changing host) [16:05:01] ---| ---> matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has joined #code4lib [16:05:18] ---| <<-- dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:06:07] ---| <<-- rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:06:10] ---| ---> rickj1 [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:06:54] edsu | das: are you in the ndnp session? [16:08:15] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [16:08:46] robcaSSon | eby: i'm not yet, but was thinking maybe soon [16:09:04] ---| <<-- matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has quit (Client Quit) [16:09:26] ---| ---> dericed [~Adium@pool-71-125-31-89.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [16:10:34] sesuncedu | edsu: On the slightly related subject of Analog newspapers - did you see the back page of yesterday's Washington Post "Jobs" section? [16:10:46] sesuncedu | Slight analogification problem [16:11:09] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:12:53] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [16:13:21] edsu | sesuncedu: no i didn't [16:13:31] sesuncedu | they generated featured ads from their online listings. One of them has a description that begins with "thank you for your application" [16:13:39] gsf | mjg_: http://code.google.com/p/rdflib/issues/detail?id=125 [16:14:11] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:14:16] gsf | mjg_: http://groups.google.com/group/rdflib-dev/browse_thread/thread/b9d229158c1be217 [16:14:36] das | edsu: yeap [16:14:57] jtgorman | anybody thinking of going to lennie's tonight? Or somewhere else with good beer selection? [16:15:02] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:15:21] ---| <<-- sjmielh [~Adium@78-20-200-192.access.telenet.be] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:15:40] eby | jtgorman: There's a group going there for the dinner groups [16:15:52] eby | There's [16:16:03] eby | A bunch going to a beer bar as well [16:16:15] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: morgan8) [16:16:24] eby | Yogi's [16:16:39] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [16:17:02] jtgorman | hmmm, hadn't heard of Yogi's yet [16:17:27] eby | Check the social activities wiki page [16:18:22] ---| <<-- mcdonald [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:18:43] mbklein | mjg_: You mean you don't WANT to be the charismatic leader of a band of outlaw surfers? [16:18:46] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:19:00] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #code4lib [16:19:26] mjg_ | mbklein: listen [16:19:33] lbjay | petercline! [16:19:40] jtgorman | eby: thanks, looking through now [16:19:43] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:19:44] mjg_ | mbklein: all I'm saying is my life can be divided into two phases: pre-Point Break, and post-Point Break. [16:19:49] gsf | @translateparty Which if I understand hg correctly someone should be able to pull. [16:19:50] zoia | gsf: aww, shucks i dunno shortimer [16:19:58] mbklein | mjg_: It changes us all. [16:20:00] gsf | shoot [16:20:01] lbjay | netbeans-- [16:20:02] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@134.68.11.167] has joined #code4lib [16:20:02] * jtgorman really hasn't had time to keep up the conference stuff [16:20:09] mjg_ | mbklein: and I've been looking to find a wave in B'ton. so far disappointed. [16:20:24] gsf | @translationparty Which if I understand hg correctly someone should be able to pull. 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[16:20:46] gsf | that's better [16:20:53] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:21:20] mjg_ | @sing nas : NY state of mind [16:21:23] zoia | Yeah yeah, aiyyo black it's time (word?) / (Word, it's time nigga?) / Yeah, it's time man (aight nigga, begin) / Yeah, straight out the fuckin dungeons of rap [16:21:26] mbklein | mjg_: I love that, thanks to The Hurt Locker and the careful parsing of the English language, it's technically correct to refer to "Kathryn Bigelow, the Academy Award-winning director of Point Break…" [16:22:06] ---| ---> dbh__ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:22:22] ---| <<-- was [~wschneide@156-56-58-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [16:22:38] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:23:05] ---| <<-- maccabee__ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:23:28] ---| <<-- jlhardes [8cb6e585@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.133] has quit (Client Quit) [16:23:55] mjg_ | mbklein++ [16:24:05] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@134.68.11.167] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:24:05] ---| User: *** dbh__ is now known as dbh_ [16:24:23] decasm_ | can i get the hospitality suite opened? [16:24:51] mjg_ | decasm_: last I heard, 117 was open [16:25:06] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156.56.58.16] has quit (Quit: dlBarth) [16:25:20] decasm_ | standing there now. no love. [16:25:33] mjg_ | decasm_: be right up [16:25:43] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: scotthanrath) [16:25:44] decasm_ | cool [16:25:56] eby | I'll be right down with some booze then [16:26:05] mbklein | mjg_: KEYMASTER [16:26:19] anna3lc | decasm_: let me know if there's a microwave in there? [16:26:42] decasm_ | anna3lc: will do [16:27:24] decasm_ | since i [16:27:51] decasm_ | ... i'm staying at a different hotelm i might volunteer to be a keymaster [16:28:09] ---| <--- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:28:20] ---| <--- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:28:28] jeff | @who stole the microwave from the hospitality suite? [16:28:29] zoia | jstirnaman stole the microwave from the hospitality suite. [16:28:44] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [16:29:03] ---| <<-- akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:29:22] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:29:25] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:30:12] sesuncedu | edsu: can you remember why skos:exactMatch is explicitly declared not to be reflexive? It *is* declared to be symmetric and transitive, which means that if concept exactly matches *anything*, it must exactly match itself. [16:30:30] ---| ---> yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has joined #code4lib [16:30:52] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dchud) [16:31:23] ---| ---> mcdonald [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:31:33] ---| <<-- mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:31:47] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:32:08] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: paulalbert) [16:32:47] ---| ---> maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:32:48] mjg_ | eby: might wanna wait on the booze -- we may not be able to drink there [16:32:57] mjg_ | eby: getting that clarified today [16:33:09] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:33:15] decasm_ | anna3lc: no microwave [16:33:38] ---| <<-- das [9c383aa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.166] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:33:38] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156.56.58.91] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:33:48] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:33:54] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:34:24] yegusa | I found a wrong link, "Social Networking Dinners" in http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/conference.php. [16:34:45] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:34:54] anna3lc | decasm_: bummer! I am gonna get that jstirnaman. [16:35:18] anna3lc | decasm_: thanks for the report [16:35:54] ---| <<-- skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:36:23] mcdonald | yegusa: the social network dinners is at the bottum of that page - no takers yet [16:36:45] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:36:46] zoia | I saw Lon Cheney Jr. walking down the street [16:36:48] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:37:13] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Quit: emcrens has no reason) [16:37:23] ---| <<-- Richard_UofKY [9c383ad0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.208] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:37:47] eby | mjg_: Already there with it [16:37:53] eby | But can hold off on it [16:37:54] mbklein | WHAT'S JONATHAN DOING FOR DINNER?! [16:38:00] mbklein | zoia: What's Jonathan doing for dinner? [16:38:01] zoia | mbklein: i get no joy from this http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/04/20/funny-pictures-finds-no-joy-in-his-job/ [16:38:04] eby | Though robcaSSon can't be stopped [16:38:11] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:38:30] eby | Would think they could do a microwave on this long of a table [16:38:31] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:38:38] ---| <<-- yegusa [9c383a54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.84] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:38:47] eby | @quote random [16:38:48] zoia | eby: Quote #2109: "You know you're using the wrong system when API == Expect script" (added by robcaSSon at 07:50 PM, January 06, 2010) [16:39:22] eby | robcaSSon: Doors open [16:39:35] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:39:40] eby | @quote random [16:39:41] zoia | eby: Quote #1966: " My feelings of joy at figuring it out are tempered by the nagging frustration at the back of my head that this escaped all the testing" (added by mbklein at 11:30 AM, August 19, 2009) [16:39:52] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:40:11] Tokee | What does "hospitality suite" mean? [16:40:24] eby | A large room at this point [16:40:32] eby | With couch and chairs [16:40:50] Tokee | A bit of elaboration with regard to the social implications would be appreciated [16:41:29] jtgorman | Tokee: hotel suite used as an informal meeting grounds/gathering place [16:41:43] Tokee | Thanks [16:42:11] decasm_ | when it's sunny in philadelphia, it's all about the implications ... [16:42:48] ---| <<-- ccurry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:43:35] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-237-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:43:42] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: paulalbert) [16:43:55] mjg_ | mcdonald: you around? [16:44:00] mjg_ | mcdonald: any word on the beer? [16:45:05] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cbeer_) [16:45:06] gsf | @takify mjg [16:45:06] zoia | Ḿ Ĵ Ģ [16:45:35] mcdonald | @mjg not yet [16:45:36] zoia | mcdonald: not ye... OMG! Bacon! [16:47:11] ---| <--- ejk [~kloostere@odie.aadl.org] has left #code4lib () [16:47:17] lbjay | @danify mjg [16:47:18] zoia | lbjay: Mjgsen [16:47:25] jbrinley | @rate code4lib mjg [16:47:29] zoia | jbrinley: code4lib: 10.0; mjg: 9.1. code4lib rocks! [16:47:52] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Quit: Goodbye World) [16:48:03] eby | @Hussein boozeless suite [16:48:04] zoia | eby: The sensuous boils seize [16:48:31] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:48:38] ---| <<-- tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:48:41] ---| ---> curry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has joined #code4lib [16:49:02] ---| <<-- jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:49:14] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:23] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:49:45] mjg_ | @takify [danify Johnny Utah] [16:49:46] zoia | Ĵ Ø Ħ Ŋ Ṅ Ÿ   Ü Ť Å ℍ Ś ℰ Ñ [16:49:49] gsf | @takify [danify giarlo] [16:49:49] zoia | Ḡ Ḯ Å ® Ḽ Ø Ṡ Ẹ Ṅ [16:49:54] ---| ---> AndChat- [~dlovins@156-56-58-216.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:50:22] lbjay | @takify my talk is doomed [16:50:23] zoia | Ṃ Ȳ   Ṫ Ǻ Ḽ Ḳ   Î Ṩ   Ḏ Ŏ Ợ Ṁ Ễ Ḍ [16:50:25] edsu | hmmm, i see this text in the skos reference: "None of the SKOS mapping properties are reflexive, neither are they irreflexive. [16:50:43] eby | @wtf [16:50:44] zoia | eby: (wtf [is] ) -- Returns wtf is. 'wtf' is a *nix command that first appeared in NetBSD 1.5. In most *nices, it's available in some sort of 'bsdgames' package. [16:51:42] edsu | sesuncedu: " This conservative position allows SKOS to be used to model both KOS where the interpretation of skos:broader is reflexive (e.g., a direct translation of an inferred OWL sub-class hierarchy), or KOS where skos:broader could be considered irreflexive (as would be appropriate for most thesauri or classification schemes)." (not sure if that helps, or I really understand it fully) [16:52:25] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:52:40] * MrDys yawns [16:52:42] zoia | MrDys: WAKE UP! [16:53:01] mjg_ | @wtf is eby's problem [16:53:02] zoia | mjg_: (wtf [is] ) -- Returns wtf is. 'wtf' is a *nix command that first appeared in NetBSD 1.5. In most *nices, it's available in some sort of 'bsdgames' package. [16:53:37] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:53:38] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:54:16] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:54:45] ---| <<-- jwd [~jwd@140-182-237-113.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jwd) [16:55:13] mjg_ | @ana innovative solution [16:55:14] zoia | mjg_: Lout innovate vision [16:55:25] MrDys | @hussein innovative solution [16:55:26] zoia | MrDys: Evolve snoutish insinuation [16:55:30] sesuncedu | edsu: it's a different part- section 10.3 says that exactMatch is Symmetric (S44) and Transitive (S45). Section 10.6.4 says that "None of the SKOS mapping properties are reflexive, neither are they irreflexive". [16:55:34] MrDys | mjg_: how's your kernel compile going over there? [16:56:06] mjg_ | MrDys: segfault. now looking at dieinafire.com [16:56:29] edsu | sesuncedu: yeah [16:56:34] anarchivist | @quote random [16:56:34] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #877: " somewhere in alberta, pbinkley feels a disturbance in the code4lib force..." (added by eby at 10:28 AM, May 30, 2007) [16:56:36] anarchivist | ww00t [16:56:40] sesuncedu | edsu: S44 means that if A exactMatch B , B exactMatch A [16:56:52] edsu | right [16:57:10] sesuncedu | edsu: S45 means that if A exactMatch B and B exactMatch A then A exactMatch A [16:57:35] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:58:05] edsu | sesuncedu: ok [16:58:09] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:58:55] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:59:19] edsu | sesuncedu: where is skos:exactMatch declared to not be relexive? [16:59:39] sesuncedu | 10.6.4. Mapping Properties and Reflexivity [16:59:39] sesuncedu | None of the SKOS mapping properties are reflexive, neither are they irreflexive. [16:59:57] edsu | that's agnostic though [17:00:10] ---| <<-- hdl [~hdl@bon13-4-88-179-14-129.fbx.proxad.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:00:15] edsu | it doesn't say it's irreflexive [17:00:27] sesuncedu | edsu: yes. It explicitly says it's not. [17:00:28] mjg_ | the "g" in gsf stands for ghetto, we have just learned [17:00:39] mjg_ | or maybe gangsta [17:00:40] sesuncedu | edsu: but why make such a decision [17:01:08] edsu | saying something is neither reflexive or irreflexive is leaving it open for different applications [17:01:12] sesuncedu | edsu: that only applies if no exactMatch assertions are made on a concept at all [17:01:23] edsu | i seem to remember some language in there as to why they left it open [17:01:32] edsu | they = sean and alistair [17:01:33] ---| <<-- helrond [9c383a19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.25] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:01:51] sesuncedu | There's nothing that really seems to apply. [17:02:02] edsu | sesuncedu: i think it's in the discussion of skos:broader [17:02:28] edsu | in 8.6.7 [17:02:58] atz | now where is it that I signed up to eat dinner? [17:03:08] lbjay | "g" is for gorgeous [17:03:11] atz | anarchivist: i think i'm in your group [17:03:13] ---| <<-- dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:03:51] AndChat- | Anyone know where the Siam House group is meeting pre-dinner? [17:04:28] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:04:33] sesuncedu | 10.6.6 notes the issue , and says applications must be able to deal with it. But not declaring it to be reflexive has an implication that there's a use case where it is not true that A exactMatch A. [17:04:47] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:05:15] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:06:12] jstirnaman | zoia: I deny everything [17:06:13] zoia | jstirnaman: would a candidate who only speaks English speaker who has no other languages be considered for this position? [17:06:25] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:07:35] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:07:40] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-joxdjiwmorbrhfzc] has joined #code4lib [17:07:48] sesuncedu | If the semantics of exactMatch are (10.1) that such a relationship indicates "a high degree of confidence that the concepts can be used interchangeably across a wide range of information retrieval applications", then I cannot understand what it would mean to assert "Not(A exactMatch A)" [17:08:35] ---| User: *** AndChat- is now known as dlovins [17:08:43] ---| <<-- Tokee [~tokee@156-56-58-42.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:08:56] edsu | sesuncedu: i have no strong feelings about it [17:08:59] atz | sesuncedu: yeah... "medium degree of confidence...." would seem to be problematic [17:09:21] edsu | sesuncedu: or even any opinion :-) [17:09:35] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~Adium@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:09:52] sesuncedu | edsu: a promising career awaits you in the Civil Service :-) [17:09:54] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: paulalbert) [17:10:02] edsu | sesuncedu: that's what i hear [17:10:25] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:10:29] edsu | sesuncedu: a promising academic career of picking apart meaningless details awaits you [17:10:45] ---| <<-- MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:10:57] sesuncedu | edsu: I hear that in lieu of pay increases, all GS ratings are going to be changed to use roman numerals [17:11:00] ---| ---> tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has joined #code4lib [17:11:04] ---| ---> hdl [~hdl@bon13-4-88-179-14-129.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #code4lib [17:11:15] anarchivist | @ana nothin but hackles [17:11:16] mjg_ | @hussein nothing but hackles [17:11:16] zoia | anarchivist: This notable chunk [17:11:16] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [17:11:17] zoia | mjg_: Enchant toughish bulkiness [17:11:19] sesuncedu | edsu: it's actually the computer that is picky :-) [17:11:19] edsu | sesuncedu: those voices in your head aren't to be trusted all the time [17:11:44] sesuncedu | edsu: They were telling me that one more single malt wouldn't hurt :-) [17:12:06] anarchivist | @translationparty This semantic beer is affecting my reasoning engine. [17:12:12] zoia | anarchivist: This means that the beer affecting my inference engine. [17:12:12] edsu | sesuncedu: that one is to be believed :) [17:12:29] anarchivist | zoia++ [17:12:32] edsu | sesuncedu: so what're you doing w/ the computer where this detail matters? [17:12:37] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:12:48] decasm_ | flyingzumwalt: any plans for meeting to go to dinner? [17:13:01] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:13:04] decasm_ | flyingzumwalt: just saw wiki page [17:13:21] mjg_ | @dunno add THIS MEANS THAT THE BEER AFFECTING MY INFERENCE ENGINE [17:13:22] zoia | mjg_: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1114 added. [17:13:52] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:14:31] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:14:45] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:14:47] mjg_ | bon lundi (con jamón) [17:14:51] ---| <--- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [17:14:57] sesuncedu | edsu: I noticed the issue when trying to make HasKey work (or at least give the same results with two different reasoners). [17:15:12] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: leaving) [17:15:53] edsu | sesuncedu: the two different reasoners gave you different results? [17:15:59] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:16:04] edsu | sesuncedu: isn't that a software problem? [17:16:05] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:16:20] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:16:44] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [17:16:47] ---| ---> jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:17:01] sesuncedu | edsu: three :-P [17:17:43] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:17:55] sesuncedu | edsu: not making the inference of reflexivity was something they agreed on (correctly) [17:17:58] edsu | somewhere bertrand russel's pager is going off [17:18:12] edsu | s/russel/russell/ [17:18:15] sesuncedu | edsu: it's in his beard. [17:18:19] edsu | lol [17:19:56] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [17:20:03] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:20:07] sesuncedu | A lot of problems with imprecision show up when you try to link a knowledge organization system to consensual reality. That's what the Whisky is for. [17:26:49] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:27:23] ---| <<-- atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:27:48] ---| <<-- curry [9c383a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.39] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:27:53] ---| <<-- mcdonald [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[21:02:56] bess | hi, akorphan [21:03:09] akorphan | Hi bess! [21:03:22] BillDueber | Hey akorphan [21:03:27] jbrinley | moo [21:03:38] ---| <<-- tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [21:03:41] * akorphan is full of Afghani cuisine. Is that the right inflected form in this case? [21:03:50] BillDueber | is there any hospitality going on in the appropriately-named suite? [21:05:34] akorphan | BillDueber: No idea, myself... Who's hosting it this year anyway? [21:05:39] jeff | moof [21:06:08] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:06:11] BillDueber | moofa [21:06:15] ---| <<-- maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:07:40] edsu | lbjay: do you still want irc.code4lib.org to point at that page? 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[21:40:32] iPat | Just got here [21:40:35] iPat | Dying [21:40:51] ---| <--- iPat [~iPat@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has left #code4lib () [21:41:25] ---| ---> skome [~skome@Client-78.VPN.CUC.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [21:41:51] ---| ---> dlovins [~dlovins@156-56-58-216.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:42:41] anarchivist_ | iPat: downtown is a shortmealk [21:44:15] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [21:44:16] zoia | Shh! Daft largesse [21:44:51] gsf | @tunes [21:44:53] zoia | gsf: Chairlift : Bruises [21:45:19] ---| <<-- jdatema [~jdatema@ool-182e4ef8.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Quit: Be seeing you.) [21:45:19] ---| <<-- jdatema_ [~jdatema@ool-182e4ef8.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Quit: Be seeing you.) 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[22:05:28] akorphan | oh, i am so behind [22:05:31] akorphan | just ignore me [22:05:44] ---| <<-- dericed1 [~Adium@76.15.231.223] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:05:49] akorphan | (but don't /ignore me) [22:06:30] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [22:06:35] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:08:31] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@64.120.52.99] has joined #code4lib [22:08:32] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@64.120.52.99] has quit (Changing host) [22:08:32] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [22:10:24] ---| ---> dericed1 [~Adium@76.15.231.223] has joined #code4lib [22:10:58] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [22:10:58] zoia | Ooh, that smell / Can't you smell that smell? / Ooh, that smell / The smell of phasefx surrounds you... [22:11:08] mbklein | @whoami [22:11:08] zoia | mbklein: mbklein [22:11:28] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [22:14:22] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [22:15:45] ---| <<-- fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:17:12] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-rxtabazjpwihffwm] has joined #code4lib [22:17:54] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@216.216.225.10] has quit (Quit: fumi) [22:20:10] lbjay | what's the haps in room #117? 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[22:40:40] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [~anarchivi@156-56-58-241.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [22:40:40] ---| <<-- anarchivist_ [~anarchivi@156-56-58-241.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [22:40:40] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [22:41:01] anarchivist_ | @hussein bobst boy [22:41:03] zoia | anarchivist_: Best, boobyish sun [22:41:13] ranti_ | akorphan: the Afghanistan restaurant? Excellent! Middle East style food. [22:41:24] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:43:10] ---| <--- gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has left #code4lib () [22:43:13] akorphan | also, it was the BEST of the newbie dinners (and possibly the least newbie filled) [22:43:59] akorphan | (I am in no way suggesting a correlation between these factors. Newbies rock!) [22:45:21] ---| <<-- jbrinley [~jbrinley@c-98-228-16-237.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:45:38] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:47:10] lbjay | afghani_food++ [22:48:28] lbjay | i could eat that spciy green sauce by the bowl [22:48:43] ---| ---> bess1 [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [22:49:06] akorphan | spicy_green_sauce++ [22:49:09] ranti_ | spicy_food++ [22:49:15] lbjay | chatni or chantey i think [22:49:27] akorphan | presumably a relative of chutney? 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[22:53:04] dbs | lbjay: just checking to see how much you're procrastinating :) [22:54:13] lbjay | dbs: i'm in the Holy Crap I'm Going To Just Have to Paste Raw Code Into the Slides phase [22:54:22] dbs | hah [22:54:23] ---| <--- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-rxtabazjpwihffwm] has left #code4lib () [22:54:41] dbs | "Compile this with your eyes" [22:54:59] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [22:55:06] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-tcvjboolschpgqxo] has joined #code4lib [22:55:09] lbjay | *seefault* [22:56:30] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-tcvjboolschpgqxo] has quit (Client Quit) [22:56:56] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-hzolmkuazjsgweio] has joined #code4lib [22:58:29] ---| <--- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-hzolmkuazjsgweio] has left #code4lib () [22:59:59] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-bulqgfqhpknnqvdf] has joined #code4lib [23:00:59] ---| <<-- maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [23:01:07] jeff | ENOBEER [23:03:21] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:03:35] BillDueber | @quote search slides [23:03:39] zoia | BillDueber: No matching quotes were found. 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[23:04:07] BillDueber | @quote get 1627 [23:04:07] zoia | BillDueber: Quote #1627: "< edsu> mjgiarlo: we totally have to bring fake swords and duel during the presentation" (added by anarchivist at 03:36 PM, November 21, 2008) [23:05:10] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-bulqgfqhpknnqvdf] has quit (Quit: skoczko) [23:05:35] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-lrftyvbphodxkiey] has joined #code4lib [23:06:18] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:08:03] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: anna3lc) [23:08:04] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-lrftyvbphodxkiey] has quit (Client Quit) [23:12:15] ---| <<-- atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [23:13:54] ---| <<-- ksclarke1 [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[23:45:35] zoia | obst is going to bite off csharp 's earlobe when things get nasty in the hospitality suite tonight. [23:45:42] rsinger | obst++ [23:46:04] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:47:32] ---| ---> butler [8cb6f997@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.151] has joined #code4lib [23:48:49] ---| <<-- bess1 [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [23:56:05] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:56:05] zoia | Is that... J from Dinosaur Jr? [23:58:50] ---| <<-- butler [8cb6f997@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.151] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [23:59:56] ---| ---> seasee [8cb6f997@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.151] has joined #code4lib --- Day changed Tue Feb 08 2011 [00:02:55] ---| <<-- jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[00:26:41] eby | You haven't looked very hard [00:28:43] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: robcaSSon) [00:31:42] ---| ---> petercline1 [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #code4lib [00:31:49] ---| <<-- atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [00:32:31] jeff | go bib export go! 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[01:13:21] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [01:13:22] zoia | Ce n'est pas un architecte [01:13:52] ---| <--- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [01:16:36] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [01:29:33] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-231-152.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [01:29:45] ---| <<-- spaldo [~christoph@conference/code4lib/x-onfzevjkjkeamphf] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [01:30:46] ---| <<-- royt [~royt@adsl-67-121-144-66.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit (Quit: royt) [01:36:30] lbjay | @who is wasting time with google's undersea logo? [01:36:31] zoia | ablemann is wasting time with google's undersea logo. [01:45:55] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[07:37:25] anarchivist | @danify neck beard [07:37:26] zoia | anarchivist: Nèck Bèårdsen [07:38:09] ---| ---> jbrinley [~jbrinley@c-98-228-16-237.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [07:38:18] lbjay | should i know how to get to this whittenberger auditorium? [07:40:12] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [07:40:30] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #code4lib [07:42:45] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [07:43:00] anarchivist | lbjay: it's on the first floor of the union [07:43:05] scolford | Floor one turn right from the elevators. Or if you are still in the hospitality suite, walk past the elevators to the bagels. [07:45:14] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [07:45:31] lbjay | @who fell asleep in the hospitality suite? [07:45:32] zoia | phasefx2 fell asleep in the hospitality suite. [07:45:43] jbrinley | @quote add Floor one turn right from the elevators. Or if you are still in the hospitality suite, walk past the elevators to the bagels. [07:45:43] zoia | jbrinley: The operation succeeded. Quote #2504 added. [07:46:02] JodiS | hey #c4l11! :) [07:46:14] JodiS | really digging the streaming plan [07:46:22] scolford | JodiS is in the house! [07:46:30] JodiS | yo Scott! [07:47:29] JodiS | anybody had success with importing the schedule page as .ics? google calendar doesn't read what is produced, but it looks reasonable to me. gcal bug? [07:47:41] lbjay | @sing true love always : stream up [07:47:46] zoia | lbjay: No lyrics found for stream up by true love always [07:48:28] scolford | Oh, no. The timestamps are all 2010. Discovered that Sunday night, but just regexed them correct in TextWrangler. [07:48:33] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-231-152.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [07:49:18] JodiS | hmm [07:49:20] JodiS | that could be it [07:49:32] JodiS | yup, these are 2010 dates! [07:49:34] JodiS | score! [07:49:42] scolford | Yeah, it's just the year. Otherwise correct. [07:50:22] scolford | Of course, I imported it into Google with my default reminder times set so now I have 98 appts in there that will send me email 2 hours before and ding 10 mins before on my phone. Grr. [07:51:04] JodiS | ok, I was editing the page anyway, so I'll did "2010- replace all "2011- [07:51:12] JodiS | hopefully I didn't break anything... [07:51:30] scolford | Oh good. Should be fine. I meant to tell someone... Sorry I forgot! [07:52:23] JodiS | no worries, it's fixed now :) [07:52:33] ---| ---> williw [~williw@office.canadiana.ca] has joined #code4lib [07:52:38] JodiS | anyway, there is a gcal bug -- this imports fine into ical [07:54:02] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-231-152.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:54:54] scolford | Oh, I actually did it in ical, but to my gcal account. So doing it on the web I've not tried. 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[08:52:27] jtgormanph | anybody use android irc? do you know how to set default nick? [08:52:40] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:52:50] pberry | Last I saw they were still empty [08:52:59] pberry | There is a star bucks nearby though [08:53:09] pberry | Over by alumni hall or whatever [08:53:20] ---| ---> das [9c383aa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.166] has joined #code4lib [08:53:36] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:37] ---| ---> Tokee [~tokee@156-56-58-42.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:44] akorphan | blargh [08:53:50] ---| User: *** Tokee is now known as tokeee [08:53:52] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [08:53:53] pberry | The wireless coverage is nice [08:53:54] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:58] yo_bj | Anyone have any requests for music? Sitting right next to the piano... [08:54:02] pberry | Kudos to whoever set that up [08:54:03] ---| <<-- Will [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [08:54:06] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [08:54:11] pberry | Chopsticks! [08:54:12] akorphan | yo_bj: can you play my melancholy baby? [08:54:19] ---| ---> maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:54:25] yo_bj | I can handle chopsticks! [08:54:26] druthb | There *was* coffee earlier. I think my coworker drank it all, maybe. That man can consume more coffee than any human I've ever seen. ;-) [08:54:32] scolford | Singalong! [08:54:35] pberry | Or Wonderwall [08:54:40] ---| ---> timmcgeary [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has joined #code4lib [08:54:53] ---| <<-- jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [08:54:59] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [08:55:08] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:55:10] timmcgeary | morning everyone. I'm here for my annual visit to #code4lib [08:55:10] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:55:15] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:55:17] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:55:30] gsf | timmcgeary: welcome to #code4lib [08:55:35] MrDys- | you're always welcome here [08:55:45] ndushay | how come i don't get that welcome? [08:55:48] timmcgeary | thanks, gabe [08:55:53] ---| ---> jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:56:00] ---| ---> helrond [9c383a19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.25] has joined #code4lib [08:56:04] jaf | ah that's better [08:56:12] MrDys- | ndushay is old hat [08:56:16] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [08:56:19] anarchivist | @ana code4lib for heshers [08:56:20] zoia | anarchivist: Chief bolder horses [08:56:28] ---| <<-- MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:56:35] gsf | ndushay: o hai [08:56:46] ejk | Trying to follow with online streaming [08:56:46] MrDys- | code4milliners [08:56:49] pberry | I think all that stout last night gave me SARS [08:56:58] pberry | or bird flu [08:57:04] pmurray | @twit --from maxxkrakoa [08:57:05] zoia | pmurray: maxxkrakoa: Had a sausage and egg burger for breakfast... [08:57:13] anarchivist @aussie tell lbjay to stfu [08:57:13] zoia | anarchivist: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! 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[08:58:09] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:58:11] ---| ---> petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:19] anarchivist | timmcgeary: we'll be at the hospitality suite tonight [08:58:22] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:27] jbrinley | @who has good stout [08:58:27] zoia | ccurry1 has good stout. [08:58:27] ndushay | timmcgeary: I'm pretty stout these days ... [08:58:30] ---| ---> decasm_ [~decasm@156-56-58-30.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:38] ---| ---> sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:46] * druthb waves to sekjal [08:58:55] timmcgeary | ha, naomi [08:58:59] sekjal | hey, druthb! [08:59:10] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [08:59:11] timmcgeary | good to know - I think I'll be visiting the hospitality suite tonight [08:59:15] ---| ---> will [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [08:59:19] ---| ---> escowles [~escowles@mobile-166-137-140-229.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [08:59:21] anarchivist | http://breadpeople.tumblr.com/post/3171609539 [08:59:36] pberry | The cleaning cover charge was a stroke of genius [08:59:37] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:00:06] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: MrDys-) [09:00:39] timmcgeary | I brought "Inception" with me from Redbox - maybe some stout will enhance my dream world tonight after I finish watching it [09:00:42] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:00:44] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [09:00:56] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:01:12] emorgan | Hello world from my iPad irc client [09:01:25] akorphan | hello emorgan's iPad irc client [09:01:39] MrDys- | should've charged my laptop. bah. [09:01:49] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:01:50] timmcgeary | morning, emorgan [09:01:55] pberry | I wish Colloqy would fix that damn keyboard bug [09:01:56] jeff | greetings (sent from my iPad) [09:01:57] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:01] jeff | how goes it? (send from my iPad) [09:02:10] escowles | but then how will i know whether it's the dream or the beer that keeps the top spinning? [09:02:14] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [09:02:14] jaf | so, is anyone getting the video stream yet? was supposed to be streaming about 15 minutes ago... [09:02:17] jeff | bah. typos break even lame jokes. [09:02:27] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:38] ejk | jaf: I'm not getting anything yet [09:02:45] ---| ---> danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:45] gsf | @band add The Broken Jokes [09:02:46] zoia | gsf: Band 'The Broken Jokes' added to list [09:02:52] ---| ---> dlovins [~dlovins@156-56-58-216.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:56] ejk | Yay, streaming is up! [09:02:58] anarchivist | @ana mcdonald's watch [09:02:59] zoia | anarchivist: Damn! Watch scold [09:03:09] pberry | 260 [09:03:13] pberry | Nice [09:03:21] MrDys- | bling blang [09:03:28] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@conference/code4lib/x-fnwlckmghqzlpnno] has joined #code4lib [09:03:30] jaf | ejk: hmmm, I'm still not getting it [09:03:36] tokeee | Okay, math time. There are 8 power outlets divided into 4 double-socket-thingies. Assuming that this means 4 separate circuits and that they can take about 30A @ 110V each, there is a combined amount of about 13000W. An average laptop takes about 90W, netbooks takes less, my room-heater takes 200 (sorry)... Let's be generous and say an overall average of 80W. 13000/80 ~= 160 computers if devided equally (which they are not). Right now peop [09:03:44] pberry | Data center tour?! Nerdtastic [09:03:48] anarchivist | @ana datacenter tour [09:03:48] zoia | anarchivist: True nectar toad [09:04:09] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-229-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:22] gsf | ooh heated seats! [09:04:28] ---| <<-- das [9c383aa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.166] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [09:04:31] tokeee | Ah, no problem then [09:04:33] pberry | Leather? [09:04:34] MrDys- | @band add Nectar Toad [09:04:35] zoia | MrDys-: Band 'Nectar Toad' added to list [09:04:39] timmcgeary | more power [09:04:45] ejk | It's like I'm right there! Except... no beer... so not like it at all. [09:04:49] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [09:04:49] zoia | pberry is a witch! [09:05:00] jaf | weird, i don't see the video stream.... [09:05:05] pberry | Am not! [09:05:10] * jeff raises a cup of coffee toward ejk [09:05:12] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:05:19] pberry | This is a false nose [09:05:22] lbjay | JodiS: been too busy with my preso but i'm logging the channel and will hopefully put something up later [09:05:27] jbrinley | where do I find this streaming c4lcon? [09:05:54] timmcgeary | c4l w/o beer - perish the thought. [09:05:56] ejk | http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/sessions.php [09:05:59] lbjay | jbrinley: there's links from code4lib.org [09:06:01] escowles | demographic: neckbeards [09:06:10] * jbrinley just found it [09:06:12] ---| ---> dbh__ [~dbh@140-182-230-163.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:24] akorphan | white_castle++ [09:06:24] pberry | Way to go bigd [09:06:25] ---| ---> tingletech [8cb6f9c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.200] has joined #code4lib [09:06:29] pmurray | @karma [09:06:29] zoia | pmurray: Highest karma: "mbklein" (398), "edsu" (374), and "anarchivist" (366). Lowest karma: "iii" (-127), "central_IT" (-31), and "php" (-17). You (pmurray) are ranked 32 out of 2679. [09:06:30] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:33] gsf | BigD++ [09:06:34] jbrinley | http://www.indiana.edu/~video/stream/liveflash.html?filename=C4L2011_session_1 [09:06:34] MrDys- | we have a mission? 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[09:06:44] ---| ---> abarrera [~abarrera@61.sub-75-207-233.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [09:06:49] akorphan | ibahn-- [09:06:51] ---| Channel: mbklein changed the topic of #code4lib to: Welcome to #code4lib - Hospitality Suite in rooms 116&117 - Conference live streaming at http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/sessions.php [09:06:57] yo_bj | ibahn-- [09:07:01] ndushay | mbklein++ [09:07:02] ejk | ibahn-- [09:07:02] pmurray | mbklein++ [09:07:08] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:10] jbrinley | mbklein++ [09:07:16] gsf | mbklein-- [09:07:19] ---| ---> librarywebchic [9c383aad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.173] has joined #code4lib [09:07:22] JodiS | "opportunities to drink beer" [09:07:27] akorphan | beer++ [09:07:31] timmcgeary | beer++ [09:07:35] ndushay | @karma beer [09:07:36] zoia | ndushay: Karma for "beer" has been increased 12 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 11. [09:07:45] mbklein | gsf++ bring it [09:07:51] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:07:52] ndushay | @karma ndushay [09:07:52] zoia | ndushay: Karma for "ndushay" has been increased 32 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 31. [09:07:59] ndushay | awesome - I'm ahead of beer! [09:08:06] mbklein | @karma mbklein [09:08:06] zoia | mbklein: Karma for "mbklein" has been increased 444 times and decreased 44 times for a total karma of 400. [09:08:07] ---| ---> das [9c383aa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.166] has joined #code4lib [09:08:08] ejk | hrm... wonder if I can get a per diem for "attending" the streaming version of the conference [09:08:10] timmcgeary | @karma timmcgeary [09:08:11] zoia | timmcgeary: timmcgeary has neutral karma. [09:08:16] JodiS | my new power supply is just not working. WTF?! [09:08:17] ---| <<-- dbh__ [~dbh@140-182-230-163.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:08:19] anarchivist | @who is the bobby knight of code4lib [09:08:20] zoia | phasefx is the bobby knight of code4lib. [09:08:22] pberry | They play basketball here? [09:08:27] gsf | timmcgeary++ [09:08:30] akorphan | JodiS: That happened to me in providence! [09:08:32] timmcgeary | sigh - my karma stock pile is depleted [09:08:33] JodiS | dude, has anybody contacted freenode staff? [09:08:37] anna3lc | is she trying to hire all of us? [09:08:42] gsf | JodiS: mbklein-- did [09:08:45] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:45] zoia | I saw Lon Cheney Jr. walking down the street [09:08:51] JodiS | akorphan: and unfortunately I'm at home [09:08:51] ---| ---> emorgan_ [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:51] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:08:52] ---| User: *** emorgan_ is now known as emorgan [09:08:53] JodiS | mbklein++ [09:08:55] ---| ---> jstirnaman2 [~yaaic@173-140-227-44.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #code4lib [09:08:57] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:08:57] ---| ---> anarchivist1 [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:58] BillDueber | Not sure who her audience is, here... [09:08:58] yo_bj | they are hiring a few librarian positions [09:08:58] ---| ---> dlBarth_ [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:59] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:08:59] pmurray | JodiS: why? [09:09:03] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:09:08] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:09:08] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:09:09] akorphan | JodiS: Even worse! [09:09:10] * pmurray is curious [09:09:11] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:09:12] ---| User: *** dlBarth_ is now known as dlBarth [09:09:12] ---| <<-- petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[09:09:23] gsf | pmurray: to warn about the load [09:09:28] ---| ---> bshum_ [~bshum@156-56-58-76.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:09:28] ---| <<-- bshum_ [~bshum@156-56-58-76.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [09:09:28] ---| ---> bshum_ [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [09:09:30] ---| ---> tracyjo [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has joined #code4lib [09:09:30] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [09:09:30] ---| <<-- bshum_ [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:09:32] pmurray | gsf: Ah, true. [09:09:37] JodiS | pmurray: jeremy couldn't get into IRC [09:09:42] ---| <<-- dlovins [~dlovins@156-56-58-216.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:09:43] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:09:47] JodiS | frumpkin in channel yet? [09:09:53] ---| ---> bshum_ [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [09:09:53] mbklein | Freenode tip: I submitted the request with IP addresses and capacity needs on 1/24. But it didn't get done until I prodded staff in the #freenode channel yesterday afternoon. 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[09:10:23] timmcgeary_ | freenode froze on me [09:10:24] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:26] anarchivist1 | timmcgeary_: have you auth'd to nickserv? [09:10:31] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:32] timmcgeary_ | no [09:10:33] ---| User: *** anarchivist1 is now known as anarchivist [09:10:34] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [09:10:34] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:10:36] ---| ---> mlevy [9c383a39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.57] has joined #code4lib [09:10:42] mbklein | timmcgeary_: If you're registered with nickserv, you can /ghost your nick. Otherwise you just have to wait. [09:10:52] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-qmczzmkyiohprdnj] has joined #code4lib [09:10:54] anarchivist | @ana ghost dad [09:10:55] pberry | Oh, sure...the princess gets special treatment [09:10:55] zoia | anarchivist: Ghost add [09:10:57] ---| <<-- jstirnaman2 [~yaaic@173-140-227-44.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit (Client Quit) [09:10:58] timmcgeary_ | wait how long? [09:11:00] JodiS | I'm going to go with the hail mary: reboot in irrational hopes that that will guilt my powersupply into working [09:11:03] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:08] ---| <<-- nyara [8cb6fa61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.97] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:11:09] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has quit (Quit: JodiS) [09:11:09] ---| ---> ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:13] BillDueber | timmcgeary_: Don't worry, you're not confusing anyone with your clever "trailing-underscore" disguise [09:11:17] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:19] BigD | Heh, i remember her from the bus now [09:11:21] ---| ---> eby [~eby@pdpc/supporter/professional/eby] has joined #code4lib [09:11:23] ndushay | what would happen if these introductions were all about the people in code4lib instead of about the hosting institution? [09:11:31] pberry | Music box? [09:11:32] timmcgeary_ | It's a Library in a box? [09:11:33] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:34] abarrera | BigD did you try to get her digits? [09:11:37] awead | ndushay++ [09:11:37] BillDueber | ndushay: People might listen. [09:11:38] ndushay | better yet, what if it was just the channel projected? [09:11:39] timmcgeary_ | Cut a hole in the box [09:11:41] pberry | Ha! [09:11:41] mbklein | timmcgeary_: I don't remember. [09:11:43] BigD | She sat way up front and didn't [09:11:44] pmurray | sponsors++ [09:11:48] BigD | Engage [09:11:48] maccabee_ | she did talk about c4l people. we apparently like white castle. [09:11:49] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:51] MrDys- | BigD: was she pitching the library the whole ride? [09:11:53] BillDueber | Yeah, sponsors. [09:11:53] yo_bj | Sponser plug time! [09:11:53] akorphan | I like it when people's nicks suggest a weird pronunciation of their actual name. Like "charper" [09:11:54] timmcgeary_ | Put your um, books, in the box [09:11:55] decasm_ | BigD has a finger collection? [09:11:56] pberry | ndushay: That never goes well [09:12:02] ---| ---> mcdonald [9c383a0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.13] has joined #code4lib [09:12:04] BillDueber | And that_oclc_thing_with_docs_about_their_services+++ [09:12:05] akorphan | charper: one who charps. [09:12:13] atz | pluggity, pluggity [09:12:25] anarchivist | @zalgo duracloud [09:12:26] zoia | D̴̙̙̙̙̀͆𝀵̸̷̛̙̙͙̙̙̙̙̙̙͓̙̞̙̙̙̀͌ͤ̀̌͏̴̢̛̙̞̙̞̙̹̙͇̙̙̙̰̙̙̙̙̙̙̙̼̙̳̙̙̙̙̙̙̙̙̙̦̙̈́̄ͨͧ͊̅ͦ̇̿͟͡͝͞҉̨̙̻̙̙̙̤̙̼̙̣̙̙͔̙͑̚U̷̢̙̙̻̙̙̙̙͕̙̫̙̙̙̙̙̙̙̘̙̙̙͍̙̙̙̙̙̙̇ͦͧ͒ͫͧ̈̿̀̐͒ͪ̚R̷̸̴̵̸̡̧̙̥̙̮̙̙̙̙̙̪̙̙̗̙̙̙̙̙̯̙̙̙̜̙͈̙̩̙̙̙̜̙̣̙̙̣̙̙̙̙̙̙̙̀́̊͂̄̆͛́͐̈́̉̚̕͡ (2 more messages) [09:12:28] pmurray | sponsors++, ++, ++, ++, ++ [09:12:32] maccabee_ | sponsors++ [09:12:33] MrDys- | we loves sponsors [09:12:35] * BillDueber can never find the damn xISBN docs when he needs them. [09:12:36] ---| ---> hkm [9c383a68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.104] has joined #code4lib [09:12:41] timmcgeary_ | sponsors++ [09:12:41] pberry | Hooray [09:12:45] * ejk claps [09:12:48] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:12:56] akorphan | sponsor-splosion! [09:13:01] mbklein | I'm going to post this once per day, and that'll be the extent of it: IF YOU APPRECIATE AND ENJOY THE #CODE4LIB CHANNEL, PLEASE SUPPORT FREENODE BY CONTRIBUTING TO THE PDPC. http://freenode.net/pdpc.shtml [09:13:02] atz | @love sponsors [09:13:03] zoia | atz: The operation succeeded. atz loves sponsors. [09:13:07] librarywebchi | @BillDueber glad you like the the brochure. Best way to get to services info is to go to http://www.oclc.org/developer/services [09:13:08] zoia | librarywebchic: That's it. You're moving in with your auntie and your uncle in Bel Air. [09:13:08] BillDueber | Brad Wheeler's first job in IT was collecting dimes next to the printer [09:13:15] ---| <<-- timmcgeary_ [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has quit (Client Quit) [09:13:18] BigD | She forgot to thank white castle [09:13:23] pmurray | mbklein++ # I have, but I think I need to re-up my contribution [09:13:25] akorphan | white_castle++ [09:13:27] ndushay | mbklein: you should have waited until more people were up [09:13:28] * anna3lc feels like she should be getting into a formula 1 car when putting on my code4lib tshirt this year [09:13:32] ndushay | BigD++ [09:13:32] mbklein | BillDueber: Did you look in whichever of your pockets DOESN'T have a can of Coke in it? [09:13:33] ---| ---> timmcgeary [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has joined #code4lib [09:13:37] akorphan | Man, every time they say it, i think "Hottie Trust" [09:13:37] mbklein | BigD++ [09:13:38] ---| <<-- tracyjo [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:13:39] lbjay | mbklein++ # that is something i would give money to [09:13:41] timmcgeary | that's better [09:13:43] BillDueber | mbklein: Dude, I'm just excited to see you! [09:13:45] ejk | hottie_trust++ [09:13:48] timmcgeary | akorphan++ [09:13:52] lbjay | code4lib, not so much [09:13:54] ndushay | akorphan++ [09:13:56] BillDueber | mbklein++ [09:13:58] ---| ---> spaldo [~christoph@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:04] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:07] ndushay | BillDueber++ [09:14:08] decasm_ | @ana humoring the suits [09:14:09] zoia | decasm_: Mushiest or in thug [09:14:15] pmurray | @cyborg hottie_trust [09:14:17] ndushay | how will the non-drinking folks network? [09:14:17] MrDys- | not Antarctica? [09:14:18] zoia | pmurray: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name. [09:14:22] eefcee | videostream++ [09:14:25] ---| ---> sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:25] ---| ---> zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:25] ndushay | oh wait - that's just BillDueber and me [09:14:26] escowles | i'm not used to sales pitches for something i've already bought [09:14:37] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [09:14:37] BillDueber | ndushay: I drink. Just not beer. [09:14:38] ---| <<-- helrond [9c383a19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.25] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [09:14:40] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:42] BigD | akorphan++ [09:14:44] timmcgeary | After Brad speaks, Kuali Foundation membership increases 5% [09:14:47] gluejar | irc volume=> people aren't listening [09:14:50] gsf | kevin spacey! [09:14:53] pberry | Boy are my arms tired! [09:14:53] ndushay | a TIE? [09:14:55] * BillDueber will make a run to Big 10 Liquor between now and then and get some clear alcohol [09:14:58] ejk | kevin spacey! [09:14:59] ndushay | gsf++ [09:15:01] akorphan | gsf: that was my first thought! [09:15:06] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:06] ---| <--- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [09:15:08] pberry | He totally looks like Spacey [09:15:09] pmurray | flashing_lights++ [09:15:10] akorphan | wait, flashing lights? [09:15:11] ---| ---> edc-iPad [~ecorrado@156-56-58-227.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:11] ---| ---> fowbar [9c383acb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.203] has joined #code4lib [09:15:12] ndushay | i'm pretty spacey [09:15:12] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [09:15:15] ---| <<-- ccurry1 [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:15:16] BillDueber | Wow. He really *does* look like Spacey. [09:15:18] ndushay | it's about me, isn't it? [09:15:21] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:15:22] timmcgeary | You should see Brad Wheeler "dressed down" [09:15:26] yo_bj | gdf++ [09:15:26] BigD | Kaiser soce [09:15:27] gluejar | they're into visual symbols here [09:15:30] akorphan | Wait, who is Keyser Soze? [09:15:31] yo_bj | gsf++ [09:15:34] MrDys- | @sing Kanye west : flashing lights [09:15:36] zoia | But I never thought that you would take it this far / But what do I know / What do I know / As you recall you know I love to show off [09:15:39] ---| <<-- jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:15:41] ndushay | @ana Keyser Soze [09:15:42] zoia | ndushay: See zero sky [09:15:52] akorphan | zoia++ [09:15:54] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:15:58] BillDueber | akorphan: It's a character in a movie, but that's not important now. [09:16:08] ---| ---> helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:16:18] ndushay | they want us to go see the machine room? [09:16:18] mbklein | @who is Keyser Söze? [09:16:19] zoia | MrDys_home is Keyser Söze. [09:16:24] ndushay | machine rooms are sexy? [09:16:28] BigD | Oh! Flashing lights are the data centers [09:16:31] gsf | @danify keyser soze [09:16:32] zoia | gsf: Kèysèr Søzèsen [09:16:32] akorphan | Grid clouds! [09:16:33] tingletech | I'm also highly virtualized [09:16:35] * BillDueber 's battery may not make it to the end of this session. [09:16:35] pberry | @sing kanye west : power [09:16:37] zoia | Do it better than anybody you ever seen do it / Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it / I guess every superhero need his theme music / No one man should have all that power [09:16:41] edc-iPad | This iPad client lacks in scrolling Too much chat going on! [09:16:47] BillDueber | There's a CAVE here, too. [09:16:51] BigD | ndushay: Geeks only love machine rooms [09:16:54] pberry | Ipv6! [09:16:57] akorphan | edc-iPad: also, I bet your arm gets REALLY tired. [09:17:00] mbklein | @who said, "The greatest trick [someone] ever pulled was convincing #code4lib s/he didn't exist." [09:17:00] zoia | edc-iPad said, The greatest trick [someone] ever pulled was convincing #code4lib s/he didn't exist. [09:17:01] gluejar | next trend- a cloud on every campus [09:17:03] ndushay | BillDueber: move over and I'll let you use my power, baby. [09:17:03] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:17:05] pberry | Get loaded? [09:17:09] pmurray | "Need to get loaded..." [09:17:10] mbklein | Grr [09:17:11] ejk | wait for it [09:17:13] jstirnaman1 | he just said get loaded [09:17:14] lbjay | we all need to get loaded? [09:17:14] danwho | I saw an electric typewriter upstairs [09:17:19] mbklein | @who said, The greatest trick [someone] ever pulled was convincing #code4lib s/he didn't exist. [09:17:19] zoia | helrond said, The greatest trick sharrow ever pulled was convincing #code4lib s/he didn't exist. [09:17:22] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:17:23] mbklein | There. [09:17:26] ---| <<-- das [9c383aa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.166] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [09:17:26] lbjay | @who is already loaded? [09:17:27] zoia | moodaepo is already loaded. [09:17:28] BillDueber | danwho: Doing the wereworld of london? [09:17:32] escowles | i want a cloud in my pocket! [09:17:32] BigD | I blame Robert [09:17:38] fowbar | He hasn''t said "CYBER" yet [09:17:43] ndushay | he wants to drive hom. [09:17:44] ndushay | home. [09:17:44] BillDueber | And that message is: Get Drunk. [09:17:50] danwho | BillDueber: His hair was perfect [09:17:52] BigD | Cyberinfrastructure [09:17:52] akorphan | beer++ [09:17:53] anarchivist | @ana chudfest [09:17:54] zoia | anarchivist: Such deft [09:17:55] ndushay | chugfest? [09:18:03] akorphan | @ana cyberinfrastructure [09:18:05] zoia | akorphan: Cretins curt February [09:18:06] ---| <<-- jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:18:07] ---| ---> jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:18:10] BillDueber | danwho++ [09:18:23] * ecorrado wants to here the terms "cyber-infrastructure" and "web scale" [09:18:25] pberry | Open always wins. Right? [09:18:32] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:18:35] gsf | opencourseware++ [09:18:36] ejk | Okay, it's only been 15 minutes but this streaming coverage + IRC is pretty much the best thing ever [09:18:37] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [09:18:41] anna3lc | i am so bad at looking like im not laughing at you fools [09:18:42] mbklein | "Charles Vest" sounds like a university administrator. "Chuck Vest" sounds like a parka made of meat. [09:18:45] BillDueber | Chuck Vest is wrong. Universities don't sell education, they sell diplomas with a name on it. [09:18:47] atz | meta++ [09:18:48] akorphan | oh no! there are web-scale clouds infiltrating the cyberinfrastructure grid! [09:18:55] fowbar | I'm selling Chuck Vests for tonight's beer tasting [09:19:01] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:19:01] mbklein | anna3lc: give up. we will break you. [09:19:02] ecorrado | akorphan++ [09:19:05] BillDueber | See my vest! see my vest! made of real gorilla chest! [09:19:09] ndushay | my shoulders are shaking [09:19:09] gluejar | what are our drinking words today? "grid" "cloud"... [09:19:13] anarchivist | meat_clothing++ [09:19:17] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:19:19] pberry | Vestal Pance [09:19:19] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:19:25] ndushay | hey, if you search google images for "bacon" the first image is a bacon clothing item. [09:19:26] pberry | Vestan [09:19:28] anarchivist | @sing the normal : warm leatherette [09:19:30] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for warm leatherette by the normal [09:19:34] BigD | Mmm, meat clothes [09:19:34] pberry | Damn autocorrect [09:19:36] akorphan | zoia-- [09:19:43] ---| <<-- anarchivist_ [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Quit: leaving) [09:19:47] gsf | ndushay: if i didn't know better i would think you like that image [09:19:51] anna3lc | please share your tips for disguising inappropriate laughter [09:19:55] akorphan | See the breaking glass / in the underpass / See the breaking glass / in the underpass [09:19:57] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:19:58] ndushay | gsf: i was shocked [09:20:05] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:20:09] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: scotthanrath) [09:20:13] * eby is still waiting for black eyed peas to drop on stage [09:20:18] pberry | Uh, monopoly? [09:20:20] atz | anna3lc: iphone fart apps? [09:20:29] timmcgeary | atz++ [09:20:29] fowbar | anyone need beer goggles to go with their chuck vest? [09:20:32] mbklein | anna3lc: go with "tuberculosis cough." usually works for me. [09:20:34] ndushay | eby: /black eyed peas/ping pong balls/ [09:20:39] gluejar | All IBM needed was a CEO who wasn't an idiot [09:20:40] akorphan | eby: I think the Super Bowl half time show was the result of a love child between Tron and Mad Max. [09:20:44] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [09:20:45] gsf | ndushay: ok that makes sense [09:20:48] ---| <--- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has left #code4lib () [09:20:50] ndushay | bun warmers for the chuck fest! [09:20:53] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:20:58] BigD | gluejar: And cookies [09:21:02] anna3lc | pberry: was monopoly a suggestion? b/c it is the ultimate buzzkill i think that may work for me. [09:21:06] * pmurray wonders what percentage of code4lib attendees is affiliated with higher ed? [09:21:06] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:21:12] BillDueber | Go bankrupt [09:21:17] maxxkrakoa | cookies++ [09:21:24] MrDys- | there's a big assumption about academia and the audience for this talk [09:21:28] ndushay | no free parking at a university central campus [09:21:29] jrochkind | and who would want that? [09:21:39] timmcgeary | I like Brad Wheeler, but this might be wrong context for this talk [09:21:43] BigD | I'm so hungover that the scrolling irc is making me car sick [09:21:55] ndushay | he only has one talk that he uses for every occasion [09:22:03] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:22:04] jrochkind | surprising that we don't like the keynote since we voted for it.... or wait. [09:22:09] anna3lc | BigD: have you seen the google underwater adventure yet? [09:22:10] gsf | BigD: just pretend you're slowly falling past a wall of text [09:22:11] * BillDueber , seconds ago, finally made good on a threat and registered hottietrust.com [09:22:12] ndushay | this isn't the keynote. [09:22:13] jaf | jrochkind++ [09:22:21] ---| ---> Romana [8cb6f8ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.171] has joined #code4lib [09:22:22] decasm_ | de facto keynote [09:22:26] ndushay | BillDueber++ [09:22:27] jstirnaman | and girls? [09:22:31] timmcgeary | ndushay: not quite true, but close [09:22:33] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:22:34] ejk | merit++ [09:22:37] akorphan | Memo to self: northern midwest is right out [09:22:40] gluejar | looks like wyoming is safe [09:22:41] jrochkind | BillDueber++ [09:22:43] pberry | Woo Chico! [09:22:46] lbjay | BigD: are you sitting near robcaSSon? just in case? [09:22:49] jrochkind | someone must protet the hathi's. [09:22:58] timmcgeary | if anyone likes this topic, read the book DIY U [09:22:59] akorphan | internet2: electric boogaloo [09:22:59] ndushay | jrochkind++ [09:23:02] anarchivist | @ana bugtussle [09:23:03] zoia | anarchivist: Slug tubes [09:23:10] timmcgeary | jrochkind++ [09:23:10] mbklein | lbjay++ [09:23:12] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:23:13] ndushay | @ana unprecedented [09:23:13] zoia | ndushay: Untended creep [09:23:17] ejk | Can I use it to stream netflix? [09:23:20] BigD | lbjay: Nope, rfrick. And she'll kick my butt [09:23:22] eby | @Hussein light that fiber up [09:23:24] zoia | eby: Hes the pitiful thug brains [09:23:54] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [09:23:54] ndushay | look! white middle-aged men in ties! [09:23:54] BillDueber | ejk++ [09:23:59] mbklein | BigD: Just lie down in the aisle and close your eyes. No one will notice. [09:24:02] ---| ---> karenh [~chatzilla@156-56-58-105.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:24:03] danwho | Great- thanks all. Now i just see Kevin Spacey [09:24:18] ---| ---> caroldotou [9c383b2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.45] has joined #code4lib [09:24:23] BigD | I need a blankie [09:24:24] fowbar | macaroni solutions [09:24:32] BillDueber | It this turns into an alter call, I'm leaving. [09:24:32] tingletech | Macro Services! [09:24:35] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:24:41] akorphan | Macro solutions? So, like, solutions based on application-based interface scripting? [09:24:42] mbklein | @who will tuck BigD in so he can go night-night? [09:24:42] zoia | wickr will tuck BigD in so he can go night-night. [09:24:44] jrochkind | what is a "genuine volitional dependency"? [09:24:44] BillDueber | BigD: you need hair of the dog, dude [09:24:46] ndushay | "who will be SAVED???" [09:24:48] pberry | What kind of scale? [09:24:52] tokeee | Macaroni Solutions - We make spaghetti code [09:24:57] paulalbert | Macro solutions == fascism [09:25:00] ndushay | tokeee++ [09:25:06] pmurray | @google volitional [09:25:07] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:25:07] zoia | pmurray: Volition | Define Volition at Dictionary.com: ; volitional - definition of volitional by the Free Online ...: ; Volitional - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: ; Volition (psychology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages) [09:25:07] BillDueber | jrochkind: It's less fake than a false colitional dependency [09:25:08] mbklein | BigD: Hear that? He said BIG BUCKET. [09:25:10] atz | bucket++ [09:25:12] ejk | big_bucket++ [09:25:12] ndushay | @ana big bucket [09:25:12] zoia | ndushay: Be tick bug [09:25:16] timmcgeary | I have a bucket list - does that count? [09:25:18] anna3lc | lolrus++ [09:25:19] MrDys- | fascism can work in academia [09:25:22] akorphan | Wait, I thought federated search was over? [09:25:26] pberry | Federation...here comes Shib [09:25:27] * ecorrado wishes they had macro amounts of coffee this morning! [09:25:29] escowles | you mean academics should start working together over the internet? that'll never happen... [09:25:33] sibylschaefer | Nooooo they be stealin' my Bucket [09:25:36] fowbar | i'm overdosed on management speak [09:25:41] gsf | acrlrus [09:25:50] ndushay | @ana volitional dependency [09:25:50] gluejar | macrocoffee++ [09:25:51] zoia | ndushay: Connivently dope ideal [09:25:56] ejk | uh-oh, first streaming hiccup [09:26:01] BigD | Who took ma bucket? [09:26:08] decasm_ | ... dependency ... on alcohol [09:26:10] akorphan | NO! They be stealing my bucket! [09:26:12] MrDys- | gol' danger [09:26:13] BigD | He's very folksy [09:26:19] druthb | bigger_buckets++ [09:26:20] danwho | Dab nabbit! [09:26:20] ndushay | I will be SAVED! [09:26:21] BillDueber | There's no market for this vision. Schools aren't set up to education; they're set up to sort. If they were set up to education, they wouldn't just give a kid a C- and move on. [09:26:22] akorphan | NO IT ARE MY BIRTHDAY [09:26:25] maxxkrakoa | You know it [09:26:28] gsf | BigD: that's just this character [09:26:38] atz | "a bucket in every pot" [09:26:41] jrochkind | BillDueber: nope, still wrong, they're set up to make money. [09:26:43] BillDueber | "Set up to education"??? What the hell. I'm not even drunk. [09:26:47] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:26:48] atz | "no, the SAME bucket in every pot" [09:26:52] mbklein | BillDueber: Jaded much? [09:26:56] akorphan | Yo dawg, I heard you like buckets, so I put a bucket in your bucket so you can bucket while you bucket. [09:27:00] decasm_ | BillDueber: maybe you should get drunk [09:27:13] pberry | That's calling the bucket ... Wait [09:27:16] gsf | lotus_notes++ ahead of its time [09:27:16] mbklein | That's SDSC's mainframe! [09:27:21] BillDueber | decasm: I'm going to assume you're a medical doctor and take that as a prescription. [09:27:25] ndushay | passing the stoli to BillDueber ... [09:27:37] pberry | Lotus_notes-- [09:27:44] BigD | Lotus notes is the debil [09:27:45] MrDys- | visionary. lotus notes. [09:27:47] akorphan | Is the campus running lotus notes supposed to be an example of a success or a failure? [09:27:52] decasm_ | sometimes i get my prescibes mixed up with my proscribes [09:27:53] * anna3lc predicts that the data center tour is just going to be a giant room with a huge bucket inside [09:28:00] mbklein | anna3lc++ [09:28:02] escowles | not my fourth-grade daughter [09:28:04] ejk | anna3lc++ [09:28:06] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:28:07] BillDueber | Trivia: IU Computer Science was the seventh site on the WWW, as measured by it's place on the XMosaic menu [09:28:08] mbklein | MOAR BUCKITS [09:28:10] yo_bj | Will it be a blue bucket? [09:28:10] gluejar | let's all say it! [09:28:12] fowbar | smack me first [09:28:12] BigD | It came from Plato notes. Uiuc ftw [09:28:13] ranti | anna31c++ [09:28:14] sibylschaefer | please do not smack my hand [09:28:15] jaf | what, no one's made a joke about the bucket list yet? [09:28:21] * BillDueber helped write the server, way back in 1992 [09:28:29] ranti | anna3lc++ [09:28:30] atz | jaf: actually, there was one [09:28:30] mbklein | Isn't "scale" that stuff that builds up on the inside of the bucket? [09:28:31] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:28:31] danwho | anna3lc ++ [09:28:34] BillDueber | So all you damn kids get off my lawn. [09:28:36] timmcgeary | I don't want to get slapped by Dr. Wheeler [09:28:52] akorphan | I PICK LEFT! LEFT! [09:28:55] MrDys- | Wheels. Wheelie. [09:29:03] fowbar | just think of it as getting smacked by Kevin Spacey [09:29:05] ranti | define cheaper [09:29:07] jaf | what, no one's made a *good* joke about the bucket list yet? :-p [09:29:09] akorphan | define better [09:29:12] BillDueber | define better [09:29:14] BillDueber | akorphan++ [09:29:16] jrochkind | my milkshake is cheaper and better than yours. [09:29:21] mbklein | @ana TO THE CLOUD [09:29:21] ---| <<-- edc-iPad [~ecorrado@156-56-58-227.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:29:21] zoia | mbklein: Touched lot [09:29:24] BillDueber | jrochkind: Yeah, but you already ate it. [09:29:26] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:29:27] ranti | jrochkind++ [09:29:30] akorphan | jbrockhind brings all the boys to the yard [09:29:33] BigD | Get them!!! [09:29:34] akorphan | err, jrochkind [09:29:49] BillDueber | "announced the possibility" [09:29:51] mbklein | Mmm…scalable milkshake... [09:30:04] BigD | Cloudy milkshake [09:30:06] akorphan | i would like one milkshake in a bucket please. [09:30:09] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:10] timmcgeary | BigD-- [09:30:11] mbklein | robcaSSon is a big fan of the New NORML [09:30:11] ---| ---> tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has joined #code4lib [09:30:12] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-17.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:13] gluejar | Where are the kindergartners that Vice President Wheeler talking to? [09:30:13] lbjay | @praise search yard [09:30:13] freqlurker | when did provosts mandates become the new normal? that was the old normal [09:30:14] zoia | lbjay: No matching praises were found. [09:30:18] BillDueber | There's a new ice cream place right down the block. May have to go. [09:30:20] maxxkrakoa | Can I get that milkshake in Trenta size? [09:30:25] lbjay | @praise add $who brings all the boys to the yard [09:30:25] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Praise #50 added. [09:30:29] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:34] pberry | Web scale milkshakes [09:30:37] ranti | trenta-- [09:30:37] atz | "We have determined, after a preliminary investigation and a following feasibility study, that indeed the *possibility* exists..." [09:30:39] ---| ---> fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:41] BillDueber | "Trenta" sounds like a Chevy model. [09:30:50] ---| <<-- mcdonald [9c383a0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.13] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [09:30:54] timmcgeary | BillDueber: organize a milkshake break? [09:30:57] BillDueber | Who cares where it is? I can get ILL in 46 hours. [09:30:59] anarchivist | @who is big boy mac? [09:30:59] fowbar | it's a cloudiness day outside [09:31:00] zoia | decasm is big boy mac. [09:31:00] jaron | does command and control from the top really speak well to the c4l crowd? [09:31:04] freqlurker | and when did cloudiness become a tech term? [09:31:06] maxxkrakoa | cloudiness? cloudish? [09:31:08] sibylschaefer | oh yes, I have a big boy sitting under my desk [09:31:09] MrDys- | this talk: do not want [09:31:09] BigD | Why's he looking under my desk? [09:31:10] escowles | i still want it in my pocket... [09:31:12] jrochkind | freqlurker: it never did. [09:31:14] gsf | cloudesque [09:31:17] decasm_ | cloudy with a chance of hype [09:31:17] ranti | may tensions here... I'm tired already. [09:31:17] tokeee | Desperate dane here, eager to experience american culture: Where can I get a Trenta? [09:31:18] mlevy | truthiness [09:31:21] helrond | sibylschaefer ++ [09:31:26] anarchivist | @quote add < sibylschaefer> oh yes, I have a big boy sitting under my desk [09:31:26] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #2505 added. [09:31:29] anna3lc | at the end of this talk we all get massages [09:31:36] mbklein | sibylschaefer++ [09:31:36] timmcgeary | truthiness++ [09:31:36] BillDueber | HathiTrust is a cloud service. Write a query against the established API, and we'll give you...well, pretty much nothing, because it's in copyright. [09:31:37] ndushay | did he just say "God's way"???? [09:31:40] danwho | Hallelujah! [09:31:40] akorphan | localness vs cloudiness is a false dichotomy [09:31:41] jstirnaman | don't forget "big girl" macs [09:31:42] druthb | he did! [09:31:45] ndushay | oh right - I'm in Indiana [09:31:45] jrochkind | 'cloud service' dont' mean nothing. [09:31:46] maccabee_ | flying_spaghetti_monster's_way++ [09:31:46] fowbar | code is self-aware? [09:31:54] ndushay | maccabee++ [09:32:02] pberry | fowbar: Skynet [09:32:05] escowles | holy false dichotomy, mr. vice president [09:32:05] bess | BillDueber++ :) [09:32:06] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:32:07] akorphan | maccabee_ is a big boy mac [09:32:10] ---| ---> petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:32:10] akorphan | i guess? [09:32:11] jstroop | ndushay++ [09:32:13] akorphan | he's kinda tall [09:32:14] fowbar | I wrote Skynet for UBC [09:32:14] druthb | proprietary_commercial_models -- [09:32:26] jrochkind | true enough [09:32:30] anarchivist | @ana anti-capitalist anarchivist [09:32:30] freqlurker | can the acceleration of cloud services from an exciting idea to a tired one be measured? [09:32:32] zoia | anarchivist: This vital, satanic patrician [09:32:34] BillDueber | my code is all self-aware, but it can't communicate so no one but me knows. [09:32:37] ---| <--- tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has left #code4lib () [09:32:42] akorphan | CYBERINFRASTRUCTURE COLOR WHEEL [09:32:42] ndushay | if there are three tensions, why am I finding this talk dull? [09:32:48] charper | Hathi runs on two machines, right? Not really cloud... [09:32:50] decasm_ | yo dawg, i heard you like dichotomies [09:32:53] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:32:55] jaron | it's all cloudy to me [09:32:55] pberry | Wait, what was tension 2 [09:32:59] atz | actually, i feel like the job of academics is to force proprietary companies further and further into niches and fringes.... [09:33:02] BigD | abarrera: Is such a big boy, he can't fit under a desk [09:33:03] sekjal | great, now we're all going to die in 2 weeks [09:33:03] mbklein | decasm++ [09:33:04] * ecorrado likes this talk [09:33:07] ndushay | okay, I *totally* think he only gives one speech. [09:33:09] BillDueber | I bet the answer is "Lots of money [09:33:14] paulalbert | Far Side rip off [09:33:15] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:33:16] mbklein | sekjal++ took me a minute. [09:33:17] akorphan | ndushay: you've seen this before?> [09:33:18] timmcgeary | he stole my 10th slide [09:33:18] ejk | pberry: locality vs cloudiness [09:33:24] jstirnaman | buckets are the miracle [09:33:24] timmcgeary | well, almost [09:33:29] atz | the general purpose software that everybody needs should be OPEN [09:33:31] akorphan | It's locally cloudy in Bloomingotn [09:33:36] ndushay | akorphan: no, i think the talk is to the wrong audience [09:33:39] MrDys- | time keeps on slipping slipping slipping [09:33:40] anarchivist | yo dawg, i heard you like crowds and clouds, so we could put a crowd in the cloud in a cloud so you can crowd in a cloud in a cloud [09:33:41] lbjay | WARNING: channel is logged and will be available for easy browsing post-conf [09:33:43] abarrera | BigD: is such a big boy, he can't fit into the office [09:33:45] danwho | Am I being converted? I can't tell anymore [09:33:48] mbklein | Wow, I forgot how hard it is to actually speak in front of…you know...us. [09:33:48] BillDueber | I think that was a laugh line... [09:33:50] decasm_ | lbjay++ [09:33:53] jrochkind | anarchivist++ [09:33:54] ecorrado | ir is always locally cloudy in Binghamton [09:33:54] fowbar | What's a Meta University? Terry Pratchett.... [09:33:56] anarchivist | @ana bob's big boy [09:33:57] zoia | anarchivist: By big boobs [09:34:01] anarchivist | zoia-- [09:34:02] BillDueber | mbklein++ # tough audience [09:34:03] lbjay | zoia+- [09:34:03] escowles | did he just say the aughts were a good decade? [09:34:07] ---| <--- bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [09:34:10] mbklein | I love this channel, but let we suck as an audience. [09:34:14] akorphan | I miss the 90s. [09:34:24] ndushay | we're a tough crowd, no doubt [09:34:24] mbklein | s/let/let's face it -/ [09:34:25] atz | mbklein: we do suck [09:34:26] fowbar | unseen-university [09:34:26] anarchivist | @translationparty A quick reminder that the next meeting of the Drinking ARchivists and LIbrarians Neighborly Gathering (DARLING) will take place today at 5:30 p.m., at Anna Liffey's. [09:34:26] BillDueber | mbklein: Actually, it's hard to talk in front of us for more than 15mn. So people shouldn't. Esp. when it's a stealth, un-voted-on keynote. [09:34:29] decasm_ /whisper lbjay is a big stupid poopy head [09:34:30] ndushay | I can take it. [09:34:34] ---| <<-- yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [09:34:37] jrochkind | @dunno add yo dawg, i heard you like crowds and clouds, so we could put a crowd in the cloud in a cloud so you can crowd in a cloud in a cloud [09:34:38] zoia | jrochkind: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1116 added. [09:34:44] ndushay | ok, now he's on topic [09:34:48] lbjay | jrochkind++ [09:34:55] mbklein | BillDueber has a point. [09:35:04] timmcgeary | Coming up next: VH1 Best of the Aughts, "It's my book in a box." [09:35:07] anarchivist | @decide kuali or koala [09:35:07] zoia | anarchivist: go with koala [09:35:10] jrochkind | and you wouldn't want to if you could [09:35:17] akorphan | OLE! [09:35:19] jrochkind | but he can [09:35:19] ---| ---> davidWalker [~chatzilla@cpe-76-176-169-253.san.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [09:35:21] mbklein | Only one of those projects actually leads to better trust among hotties. [09:35:24] ndushay | I don't think Diane Hiillmann has any idea how tough we are. [09:35:29] timmcgeary | seriously, where is OLE? [09:35:31] ranti | brain synchronization is hard, yo, for those big projects to collaborate together... [09:35:31] * akorphan finds his castanets [09:35:32] eby | Sakai-- [09:35:33] ndushay | koala trust? [09:35:36] MrDys- | kuali is enterprise scale [09:35:40] anarchivist | ndushay: diane's pretty tough, so i think she can handle it [09:35:42] davidWalker | live_stream++ [09:35:43] jaron | @takify kuali ole [09:35:44] zoia | Ǩ Ǔ Ā Ŀ Ỉ   Ṑ Ḷ Ḝ [09:35:44] BillDueber | eby: compared to what? [09:35:48] decasm_ | sake++ [09:35:52] jrochkind | ndushay: diane's thing is gonna rock, I have no doubt. [09:35:57] davidWalker | waking_up_early-- [09:36:00] anarchivist | dhillmann++ [09:36:01] * BillDueber is pulling out the second coke. [09:36:01] ndushay | anarchivist: believe me, i know. Diane and I go back to the NOTIS days. [09:36:04] jrochkind | better than we can? No! [09:36:08] lbjay | he who cast the first stone [09:36:08] akorphan | I am just going to hold tight until project names go back to being mnemonic [09:36:08] zoia | anarchivist: , Library Neibarigyazaringu The next meeting is Monday night's archivists (Darin) Annarifi 5:30, please the information is easy to please check it out. [09:36:09] anarchivist | @ana the NOTIS days [09:36:10] zoia | anarchivist: On this steady [09:36:19] mbklein | BillDueber++ double-barrel, my good man. [09:36:29] anarchivist | @dunno add please the information is easy to please check it out. [09:36:29] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1117 added. [09:36:32] jaron | and slow [09:36:37] BigD | Mmm, sausage [09:36:38] ndushay | has anyone found collaboration makes for expedient development? Oh wait - hydra. [09:36:39] pmurray | dhillman has to deal with cataloging fanatics, I think she can deal with us. [09:36:42] atz | "collaboration at scale" is actually a good premise [09:36:44] timmcgeary | Macro solutions > micro solutions > microsoft [09:36:44] lbjay | @ana The Gay Aughts [09:36:45] zoia | lbjay: The aghast guy [09:36:46] mbklein | @ana Library Neibarigyazaringu [09:36:47] zoia | mbklein: I rag brain brainier lazy guy [09:36:58] jaron | ndushay: is that macro collaboration? [09:36:58] BillDueber | dillman is three flavors of awesome. [09:37:15] jrochkind | ndushay: no. all my experience and observation says that you can't design good software by committee. [09:37:30] danwho | His underlining skills are impeccable [09:37:32] pmurray | BY THE WAY...is #code4lib being formally logged at this poing? [09:37:35] jrochkind | but you can collaborate to write good software, sure. like many open source examples. [09:37:37] BillDueber | michigan++ [09:37:38] jrochkind | pmurray: probably [09:37:45] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:37:46] akorphan | pmurray: the warning went up a few minutes ago [09:37:46] atz | bludgeon++ ! [09:37:47] ecorrado | ndushay: Rosetta is a good example of collobaration at scale that was expedient and successful [09:37:51] pmurray | s/poing/point/ [09:37:51] jaron | software through bludgeoning [09:37:58] akorphan from lbjay [09:38:07] timmcgeary | planB-- [09:38:14] akorphan | but I think it's more or less always being logged, non? [09:38:25] ndushay | actually, successful collaboration is often two or more projects finding synchronicity after code exists [09:38:37] BillDueber | akorphan: By individuals, but not with an eye towards posting it somewhere. [09:38:41] pmurray | Don't say anything on #code4lib that you don't want published on the front page of the New York Times. [09:38:46] MrDys- | this talk makes me slouchy in my seat [09:38:50] BigD | Mmm, sauce [09:38:51] atz | ndushay: or NOT forking/reinventing stuff that already exists [09:38:53] ---| <<-- fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:38:58] edsu | wow, i didn't know kevin spacey was keynoting code4lib [09:38:58] ---| ---> mcdonald [9c383a0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.13] has joined #code4lib [09:38:59] BillDueber | ndushay: Yeah, but there's something to be said for doing it from the outset. Playing big or going home, as it were. [09:39:00] jrochkind | ndushay: yes, agreed. or several people adding resources to a software product originally developed by a non-comittee visionary then others come in later. [09:39:01] timmcgeary | actually 698 [09:39:05] gluejar | does anyone use kuali? [09:39:06] ndushay | oh heck - everyone knows I'm the nay-sayer. [09:39:08] danwho | akorphan: Its all on the jumbotron behind us [09:39:10] timmcgeary | we couldn't convince two people to come in off the street [09:39:11] pberry | Yo dawg, boards [09:39:15] decasm_ | is he selling collaboration to open source advocates? [09:39:16] akorphan | danwho: ACK [09:39:21] edsu | livestream++ [09:39:22] ---| Channel: jaf changed the topic of #code4lib to: Welcome to #code4lib - logged for the duration of the conference [09:39:22] BigD | Sssh! Roberts here [09:39:24] timmcgeary | Is there a Jerry-tron here? [09:39:28] jrochkind | decasm: no. [09:39:35] fowbar | kevin spacey's secret sauce [09:39:42] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: MrDys-) [09:39:44] anarchivist | @ana promiscuous software license [09:39:44] timmcgeary | boom chicka bow bow [09:39:45] decasm_ | jrochkind: ok. i'm only paying half attention. [09:39:46] zoia | anarchivist: Muciferous, topical worseness [09:39:54] akorphan | "will" all sign? [09:40:00] danwho | timmcgeary: It's in the cloud, maybe [09:40:01] jstirnaman | ears perk up at "promiscuous" [09:40:06] sekjal | software_as_a_slut? [09:40:07] BillDueber | decasm_: To be fair, there's not a hell of a lot of collaboration at anything but the lowest level, even within code4lib [09:40:16] anarchivist | @ana slutty EAD [09:40:17] zoia | anarchivist: Testy dual [09:40:17] edsu | @ana joe the plumber's financial solutions [09:40:19] zoia | edsu: Champion feeble journalists [09:40:21] decasm_ | BillDueber++ [09:40:22] ---| ---> bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has joined #code4lib [09:40:31] * ecorrado opens "Edward's WebScale Financial Solutions" [09:40:32] mcdonald | I like promiscuous software [09:40:41] timmcgeary | BillDueber++ [09:40:44] helrond | anarchivist: EAD gets around [09:40:54] BillDueber | What is the kuali licensse? [09:40:55] timmcgeary | helrond++ [09:41:05] mbklein | Is it written entirely by promiscuous coders? [09:41:08] gsf | even the gpl wouldn't stop them from doing that [09:41:08] ---| <<-- Romana [8cb6f8ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.171] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:41:21] anarchivist | mbklein: they need to make sure their tests are passing [09:41:22] timmcgeary | I think Kuali license is based on Apache license [09:41:32] mcdonald | Education. Community License based on apache [09:41:34] gsf | timmcgeary: he said as much, plus patent clause [09:41:37] akorphan | wait, how do you trick for-profit firms into giving away development? [09:41:41] jrochkind | which is very wise of them, welcoming commercial involvement. [09:41:48] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:41:54] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [09:41:55] decasm_ | http://www.ykombinator.com/ [09:42:09] timmcgeary | OLE wouldn't go anywhere w/o commercial involvement [09:42:12] mcdonald | http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ecl2.php [09:42:27] jrochkind | timmcgeary: OLE has commercial involvement? Cool. [09:42:31] akorphan | OLE! [09:42:33] anna3lc | this is an amazing deck for slideshow karaoke [09:42:34] mbklein | @who is the target audience for this talk? [09:42:34] zoia | will is the target audience for this talk. [09:42:53] timmcgeary | jrochkind: yes - coding started Feb 1. Tune in at 11:50 for more details... [09:43:00] anarchivist | anna3lc: what's slideshow karaoke [09:43:03] anarchivist | @who is like a virus? [09:43:04] zoia | phasefx2 is like a virus. [09:43:07] pmurray | @who is a bad collaborator? [09:43:07] zoia | thrind is a bad collaborator. [09:43:09] ndushay | I are a bad collaborator? [09:43:14] ---| ---> gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:43:14] jrochkind | timmcgeary: what's the relationshp between 'coding started' and 'commercial invovlement'? Confused [09:43:19] ecorrado | there are tons of Open Source projects with huge ammounts of commercial development. Look at the breakdown of GNU/Linux committers [09:43:19] timmcgeary | Like a virus - re-mixed Madonna? [09:43:25] pberry | He's gonna rick roll us, isn't he? [09:43:26] edsu | where does kuali get $ from? sorry i'm just tuning in now [09:43:35] anna3lc | anarchivist: there may be a different name for it, but you get 5 min with a deck you've never seen and you have to entertain a crowd for some small amount of time. [09:43:35] gsf | edsu! [09:43:38] edsu | member dues? [09:43:41] edsu | gsf: :-) [09:43:43] gugek | each of the member institutions have to commit [09:43:43] pberry | edsu: Yup [09:43:46] fowbar | collaborate or get out [09:43:48] akorphan | Wasn't there a conference recently that had a slogan containing "declaration of interdependence" as a substring? [09:43:59] mbklein | anna3lc++ [09:44:00] jrochkind | what he is saying is true [09:44:03] gugek | also whatever grants the projects get [09:44:16] jstirnaman | macro-stratification [09:44:19] gsf | most of the open source projects i use started small and scaled up [09:44:29] ---| <<-- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:44:29] gsf | or all? [09:44:31] edsu | pberry: and the projects get money from Mellon, etc? [09:44:34] anarchivist | anna3lc: sounds fun [09:44:34] decasm_ | spending_other_peoples_money++ [09:44:36] freqlurker | does he really want an answer? [09:44:39] akorphan | greetings tshearerlib [09:44:40] anarchivist | @ana repositoria con melon [09:44:41] zoia | anarchivist: Poetical, senior moron [09:44:45] anarchivist | zoia+ [09:44:49] akorphan | zoia++ [09:44:50] jstirnaman | zoia+ [09:44:50] mbklein | @ana other people's money [09:44:51] zoia | mbklein: Serenely Oomph poet [09:44:52] jrochkind | this is true [09:44:56] pmurray | edsu: Not any more, I think. Kuali is self-sustaining. [09:44:59] ---| ---> timmcgeary_ [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has joined #code4lib [09:45:07] charper | When did scale become a noun in this context? [09:45:08] edsu | pmurray: how is it self sustaining? [09:45:11] eby | BillDueber: Just about anything else I've had to deal/develop with, but they were cleaning up the code at that point so maybe they've improved it [09:45:12] ---| <<-- timmcgeary_ [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has quit (Client Quit) [09:45:14] mbklein | "Vaya Con Mellon, MFer!" [09:45:21] ejk | checkmarks-- [09:45:25] akorphan | CYBERINFRASTRUCTURE COLOR WHEEL [09:45:26] decasm_ | tl;dr [09:45:27] BigD | edsu: Volume [09:45:32] eby | BillDueber: Ecourseware wise that is [09:45:34] pmurray | edsu: Members will contribute 10K to 100K per year. [09:45:35] ejk | "wake up" heh [09:45:35] jrochkind | obama? [09:45:36] edsu | BigD: it goes to 11? [09:45:38] BillDueber | "whomever you are." [09:45:39] anna3lc | i hope it's a fully connected graph this time [09:45:39] ---| ---> abarrera_ [~abarrera@61.sub-75-207-233.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [09:45:41] * anarchivist shouldn't talk, he's sitting on papa mellon's lap most of the time [09:45:45] anna3lc | nope, just words in the circle. [09:45:47] ---| <<-- abarrera [~abarrera@61.sub-75-207-233.myvzw.com] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:45:48] ---| User: *** abarrera_ is now known as abarrera [09:45:49] edsu | pmurray: so where do the members get the money? [09:45:54] gsf | anna3lc: dag? [09:45:55] pberry | It begins with Time's person of the year [09:45:57] maccabee_ | if i had known it begins with ME i would have paid more attention... [09:45:58] ecorrado | wait, what if I am the Associate Deanof the library? [09:45:59] BillDueber | eby: I've dealt with the code, I know it's not good. But as an end user, I meant. I've not used other stuff. [09:45:59] mbklein | charper: I explained that earlier. It's "scale" in the sense of "undesirable calcium buildup in your pipes." [09:46:03] pmurray | edsu: Tuition? State subsidies? [09:46:04] anna3lc | gsf: I like cycles! [09:46:05] ---| ---> yitznewton [~yitznewto@64.20.191.59] has joined #code4lib [09:46:09] mbklein | charper: (and, presumably, your bucket) [09:46:09] ndushay | no, no. let's build our own book browser. [09:46:10] bmljenny | Personal behaviors about being lightweight? [09:46:11] jstirnaman | golocal wasn't easy. it faild [09:46:14] ndushay | and our own image browser. [09:46:18] MrDys- | such condescension. [09:46:19] charper | mbklein: gotit - lining the bucket. [09:46:22] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:46:24] edsu | the shit is already macro at scale [09:46:28] decasm_ | but ... it was invented here!!! [09:46:34] ---| ---> timmcgeary_ [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has joined #code4lib [09:46:36] decasm_ | s/was/wasn't/ [09:46:37] mbklein | @quote add if i had known it begins with ME i would have paid more attention... [09:46:38] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Quote #2506 added. [09:46:41] timmcgeary_ | got booted again [09:46:42] jrochkind | he is making good points. [09:46:42] fowbar | coordinate your personal behaviors [09:46:47] eby | BillDueber: Well unfortunately anything that can let the professors customize goes downhill quick for students [09:46:50] bohyunkim | Kuali used to be funded by Carneige Mellon Grant but now probably by participating institutions... I think [09:46:55] bmljenny | here it comes [09:46:55] druthb | condecension? i don't think so. It's an unfortunate truth of IT management, having to put up with some uber-nerd who does not play well with others. [09:46:57] BillDueber | MrDys-: I honestly don't think so. I think he just misjudged both the political savvy and the bitterness of the crowd. [09:47:04] timmcgeary_ | jrochkind: he is making good points [09:47:04] druthb | Some of my most-painful projects have involved such beings. [09:47:05] ndushay | i was there, but I wasn't paying attention. [09:47:06] anarchivist | @sing the klf : 3am eternal [09:47:08] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for 3am eternal by the klf [09:47:10] jrochkind | if admins like him are realizing that you need light-weight organizations without overbearing beurocratic 'coordination', then things are getting better. [09:47:17] gsf | oof [09:47:18] edsu | hahaha [09:47:20] anarchivist | @sing the klf : 3 am eternal [09:47:21] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for 3 am eternal by the klf [09:47:22] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [09:47:25] akorphan | zoia-- [09:47:26] ecorrado | BradWheeler++ [09:47:27] * anarchivist only does toy projects. [09:47:29] BillDueber | tough_love++ [09:47:32] timmcgeary_ | BradWheeler++ [09:47:34] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@137.54.20.50] has joined #code4lib [09:47:34] eby | @decide sit here or watch stream in hospitality suite [09:47:35] zoia | eby: go with sit here [09:47:40] ---| <<-- dfunk [~dfunk@137.54.20.50] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:47:41] anna3lc | i think we are the brunt of his "get stuff without paying money" [09:47:46] tingletech | we just need bigger toys [09:47:48] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:47:51] jrochkind | this is true as well [09:47:52] anarchivist | i mean, honestly, kuali rice is not going to help me do my job [09:47:57] * BigD puts away his toy iPad. [09:47:58] charper | He's making a *really* good point here. [09:48:00] jstirnaman | all projects start as someone's toy [09:48:02] timmcgeary_ | appropriate_beverages++ [09:48:05] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@d-128-193-235.bootp.Virginia.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:48:06] decasm_ | @ana inappropriate beverages [09:48:06] gsf | if only linus had heard this we wouldn't have that pesky os [09:48:07] zoia | decasm_: Brave ego-trip in appeaser [09:48:09] BillDueber | BradWheeler++ [09:48:09] gregjansen | bigger toys! [09:48:12] ejk | appropriate_beverages++ [09:48:12] ---| ---> chunkstyle [810a6913@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.10.105.19] has joined #code4lib [09:48:16] mbklein | I haven't seen an appropriate beverage since I got here. [09:48:17] atz | i'm still wating for kauli to impact something local to me [09:48:18] gluejar | Formal disorganization, not organization!!! [09:48:18] BillDueber | he should have started there. [09:48:23] anarchivist | @ana toys in the cloud [09:48:23] zoia | anarchivist: Toothily Dunces [09:48:25] akorphan | the K, the L, the F, and the -ology. [09:48:26] danwho | Harsh, but kinda true [09:48:29] druthb | atz++ [09:48:30] ejk | Cloud = drink [09:48:43] akorphan | quotation_slides-- [09:48:48] pmurray | BillDueber: Agreed. Should have started here. [09:49:11] scolford | @quote add I haven't seen an appropriate beverage since I got here. [09:49:11] zoia | scolford: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:49:17] edsu | building toys is pretty important imho [09:49:23] jrochkind | 5 minutes over [09:49:25] mbklein | edsu++ likewise [09:49:26] sekjal | collaboration is good. so is just hacking up something one night to fix a problem, and then putting it out there [09:49:31] ---| ---> maru3 [79666596@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.102.101.150] has joined #code4lib [09:49:32] BillDueber | mbklein: I can put another can of coke in my pants. [09:49:33] ndushay | toys are generally the first phase of something scalable. [09:49:33] timmcgeary_ | where's the bell? [09:49:34] edsu | if you can't build the toy, then you won't be able to build the big Enterprise Thingy [09:49:46] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:49:47] gsf | ndushay: agreed [09:49:52] edsu | You Are the Toy Engine! [09:49:54] akorphan | code4lib_pronounced_with_long_i-- [09:49:56] atz | ndushay: good thought. [09:49:57] ejk | WHAT'S IN THE BOX!?! [09:49:59] abarrera | he <3 code4libbers [09:50:09] jrochkind | edsu: yeah, but SO many library projects never get beyond toys. [09:50:11] gsf | abarrera1 [09:50:18] mbklein | The personal computer started as a toy. So did the airplane. And the car. [09:50:18] gregjansen | willing to admit there are some things you cannot learn from the toy project [09:50:24] gsf | s/1/!/ [09:50:25] ranti | ndushay++ [09:50:26] BillDueber | ndushay: Toys show that a problem is solvable and worth solving, but they don't help with technical and administrative scaling. [09:50:29] tshearerlib | so many toys are nearly the same toy [09:50:31] MrDys- | singular heart? [09:50:39] fowbar | code a macro solution so Dr wheeler can steal it [09:50:42] escowles | akorphan: do we work for libbraries? [09:50:43] decasm_ | code4lïb++ [09:50:47] atz | it's like all the car custom fabricators get started on motorcycles, after they got started on bikes [09:50:48] * ejk claps [09:50:49] danwho | BillDueber: Totally [09:50:53] maccabee_ | i think his point is that toys/research are necessary but we're GOOD at that already. less good at scale. [09:50:54] ndushay | BillDueber: toys can sell the project [09:50:56] anarchivist | was he talking about visualbasic? [09:50:57] ---| <<-- jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jrochkind) [09:50:57] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: MrDys-) [09:50:57] ---| <<-- ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:50:58] ---| <<-- dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dan64) [09:51:02] ---| <<-- charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[10:02:15] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [10:02:15] sesuncedu | edsu: what is url for live stream? [10:02:19] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-17.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:02:26] davidWalker | sesuncedu: http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/conference.php [10:02:27] edsu | http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/sessions.php [10:02:34] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:02:36] davidWalker | it's very nice, I have to say [10:02:38] dbs | edsu: live stream? I was only watching IRC - didn't know about a live stream [10:02:41] sesuncedu | thanks [10:02:42] edsu | davidWalker: definitely [10:02:45] edsu | mcdonald++ [10:02:50] ejk | live_stream++ [10:02:51] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-qmczzmkyiohprdnj] has quit (Quit: skoczko) [10:03:08] dbs | dang, I'm going to get my secretary to clear my schedule for the next few days [10:03:10] pberry | That URL should go in the topic ;) [10:03:15] timmcgeary | ejk: been good quality? 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I'm meeting w/ core team Thurs AM [10:04:33] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:04:46] ---| ---> maruyama3 [~maruyama3@150.101.102.121.dy.bbexcite.jp] has joined #code4lib [10:05:07] eefcee | timmcgeary: it's been good from MN too, I didn't even see the "glitch" referred to during the session [10:05:12] ejk | timmcgeary: sorry, what are "f-specs"? [10:05:19] lbjay | openoffice-- [10:05:40] pberry | Textmate++ [10:05:42] timmcgeary | ejk: oops - sorry - wrong person... 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[10:06:21] ---| <<-- maru3 [79666596@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.102.101.150] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:06:23] ---| ---> tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has joined #code4lib [10:06:23] pberry | timmcgeary: That's just the caffeine kicking in [10:06:28] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:06:31] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:06:33] timmcgeary | pberry: no caffeine yet today [10:06:35] ---| ---> willkurt [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [10:06:52] pberry | So, is Wheeler supposed to be controversial or something? [10:07:00] ---| ---> jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:07:08] timmcgeary | pberry: not necessarily - I think more motivational [10:07:14] akorphan | pberry: Not really sure. I felt a bit like I was a choir being preached to [10:07:34] edsu | pberry: i don't know but he should definitely talk to MrDys before he picks out a tie next time [10:07:37] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: asnagy) [10:07:55] akorphan | To me, it was one of those speeches that was like, "hey, here's the state of the problem, now let's solve it! go, go, go!" Except the problem isn't really solvable just by fiat. [10:07:56] timmcgeary | akorphan: he could have definitely drilled in more to our context [10:08:01] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:08:02] pberry | From my own perspective, it wasn't anything riot worthy [10:08:06] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:08:20] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:08:31] pberry | Speaking as one of only 2 web savvy people from my library [10:08:31] edsu | It seemed like i thinly shrouded: give me your grant money, and we can go places! [10:08:37] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [10:08:43] sesuncedu | Note that Fiat owns Ferrari. A lot of things are solvable by Ferrari. [10:08:45] edsu | s/i thinly/a thinly/ [10:09:03] akorphan | sesuncedu: who owns Lotus these days? [10:09:09] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:09:12] ---| ---> rdhyee [~chatzilla@pool-72-95-155-241.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [10:09:16] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:09:17] pberry | Or: agree on some things and save some money. Stop demanding to be a snowflake [10:09:25] ejk | We haven't switched streams yet, right? [10:09:31] akorphan | I AM A UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE [10:09:31] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:09:36] sesuncedu | akorphan: I think Lotus does [10:09:39] sesuncedu | Dianne/ [10:09:40] timmcgeary | ejk: same stream [10:09:41] ejk | There is it [10:09:42] sesuncedu | sounds different [10:09:45] akorphan | sesuncedu: That's refreshing. 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If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [10:10:54] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:10:57] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-qfmzodacxruljnpd] has joined #code4lib [10:11:01] fyodor | so, programmers and catalogers, which one's the cat and which one's the dog? 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[10:11:56] ---| ---> gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:11:57] anna3lc | coders_and_catalogers++ [10:11:57] timmcgeary | "hot mic, hot mic" [10:12:03] ---| ---> tingletech [8cb6f9c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.200] has joined #code4lib [10:12:04] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:12:04] druthb | ouchie! [10:12:05] ---| ---> sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:12:11] gsf | no, midnight [10:12:14] ---| User: *** maccabee_ is now known as maccabee [10:12:17] ---| ---> atz_ [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:12:18] akorphan | feedback-- [10:12:21] ---| ---> bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has joined #code4lib [10:12:27] timmcgeary | ndushay++ [10:12:32] ---| ---> masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:12:33] ejk | clueful_catalogers++ [10:12:36] ---| ---> librarywebchic [9c383aad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.173] has joined #code4lib [10:12:37] ---| ---> royt [~royt@132-174-183-6.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [10:12:38] * ecorrado <3 /me [10:12:40] Baroquem | Those names look very familiar. [10:12:40] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:12:44] pberry | Imminent feedback from the mic [10:12:53] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:12:53] pberry | MOAR LOLCATS [10:12:55] ---| ---> willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [10:13:00] tokeee | Somebody invent ont single working navigator for slides! [10:13:02] anna3lc | these slides are great i can't wait for the talk [10:13:06] pberry | windows-- [10:13:06] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [10:13:06] sesuncedu | Put a piece of cardboard over it [10:13:09] eefcee | windows-- [10:13:11] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:11] ---| ---> jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:12] zoia | find / -name 'jrochkind' -exec chmod 0000 '{}' \; [10:13:13] fumi | windows-- [10:13:14] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@156-56-59-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:17] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:17] decasm_ | ctl-alt-del [10:13:19] akorphan | HAVE YOU TRIED TURNING IT OFF AND ON AGAIN? [10:13:21] ecorrado | Windows FAIL [10:13:23] sesuncedu | Need moar dongles [10:13:24] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:25] timmcgeary | windows-- [10:13:30] dchud | <3 jaf [10:13:30] danwho | MOVE [10:13:39] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:39] ejk | danwho++ [10:13:41] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:45] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:46] edsu | ❤ livestream [10:13:48] gsf | mcdonald++ [10:13:48] tokeee | Windows is fine. It runs the Wii emulator at high speed [10:13:49] pberry | Tech_support++ [10:13:49] akorphan | feedback-- [10:13:51] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:51] csharp | edsu: agreed [10:13:55] anarchivist | @isitcaturday? [10:13:55] timmcgeary | can you hear the feedback on the live stream? [10:13:56] zoia | anarchivist: did you know I can count to a vigintillion? [10:13:58] dchud | edsu: showoff [10:13:59] ---| ---> mlevy [9c383a39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.57] has joined #code4lib [10:14:01] ejk | live_stream++ [10:14:02] druthb | flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-uxstobpkaqpurfia] has joined #code4lib [10:14:10] BigD | YOU'RE WELCOME [10:14:11] mlevy | g [10:14:11] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:14:14] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [10:14:18] helrond | jrochkind: ++ [10:14:35] akorphan | what are those frightening looking things on the bottom? [10:14:37] sesuncedu | Vampires or werewolves -> cats or dogs? [10:14:45] MrDys- | odd reverb in this room [10:14:45] atz_ | pretty much [10:14:47] pmurray | That was the year I was born! [10:14:51] ndushay | hmmm - I was 5. [10:15:00] pberry | Looks like CIA torture tools [10:15:00] knickum | that was many many years before i was born... [10:15:01] sesuncedu | Used for anthropodermic bibliopeggy [10:15:01] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Bye) [10:15:07] timmcgeary | pberry++ [10:15:09] akorphan | card... patens... [10:15:10] ---| ---> caroldotou [9c383b2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.45] has joined #code4lib [10:15:13] akorphan | err platens [10:15:14] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [10:15:14] zoia | bbpennel made mbklein do it [10:15:15] akorphan | ? [10:15:16] mlevy | those look like civil war medical devices [10:15:18] atz_ | archaic catalog tools ftw! [10:15:19] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:15:20] ndushay | anyone else own a card catalog? [10:15:22] abarrera | mjgiarlo was just a twinkle in BigD eyes [10:15:22] druthb | card keepers == swords. [10:15:24] anarchivist | ndushay: yep [10:15:26] akorphan | ndushay: jealous! [10:15:28] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:15:30] ---| ---> mbklein1 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:15:31] maccabee | what's a platen? quick -- who can research things? [10:15:32] sesuncedu | atz: Millennium? [10:15:35] akorphan | en garde! et la! [10:15:43] sekjal | ndushay: I own two [10:15:46] akorphan | maccabee: I know what a platen is in other contexts. [10:15:49] gsf | sesuncedu: zing! [10:15:49] ---| ---> karenh [~chatzilla@156-56-58-105.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:15:50] BigD | abarrera: I was 4. Perv. [10:15:51] decasm_ | missing? you're right there. [10:15:54] atz_ | maccabee: i think it is a strut to fill in partially filled drawers [10:15:55] pberry | 1 year before Star Wars [10:15:55] ---| <<-- sciversedev [vsjbsc@69.41.179.203] has quit (Quit: Chatmosphere - IRC for Blackberry) [10:15:57] timmcgeary | starting to feel young suddenly, despite my gray hair [10:16:03] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:16:06] druthb | me too, timmcgeary. [10:16:07] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [10:16:10] freqlurker | The Inquisition, whatta show [10:16:16] ---| <<-- mbklein1 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [10:16:16] ---| ---> mbklein1 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [10:16:17] atz_ | maccabee: just guessing though [10:16:19] lbjay | windows-- [10:16:23] druthb | (and despite being the oldest being working at my company.) [10:16:26] BigD | abarrera: Btw, when are you due? [10:16:26] pberry | Can we get a slide intern to the stage? [10:16:26] ---| ---> joyce_ [8cb6f960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.96] has joined #code4lib [10:16:31] pmurray | We need an open source slide system! [10:16:31] ---| ---> sciversedev [cpguyd@69.41.179.203] has joined #code4lib [10:16:31] timmcgeary | druthb++ [10:16:35] tokeee | slide_controllers-- [10:16:35] helrond | can someone develop a toy to make this work? [10:16:38] BillDueber | If only there was someone here who knew how to use computers. [10:16:41] danwho | MOVE [10:16:42] ---| ---> dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has joined #code4lib [10:16:43] ---| ---> willkurt [8cb6fbd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.209] has joined #code4lib [10:16:45] sesuncedu | pmurray: It's called LaTeX [10:16:48] maccabee | helrond++ [10:16:48] akorphan | helrond: I think we need a collaborative, cloud-based solution [10:16:48] abarrera | BigD: next week, octodad! [10:16:53] atz_ | 45 seconds until plan B [10:16:59] decasm_ | helrond: no! leverage an existing toy! [10:16:59] knickum | feels like a toy project... [10:17:00] pmurray | sesuncedu: Actually, I thought it might have been HTML... [10:17:01] ndushay | i am soooo glad i'm presenting from my own computer [10:17:05] pberry | Heavy sigh [10:17:06] druthb | ltns, timmcgeary...last time was when we raised some hell in Detroit (that did no good at all), IIRC. [10:17:06] mbklein1 | TO THE CLOUD! [10:17:10] ---| ---> jbowen [8097bd5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.151.189.90] has joined #code4lib [10:17:12] timmcgeary | atz_: we're at IU, there is no plan B [10:17:13] sciversedev | any opensocial coders? [10:17:14] jrochkind | gee, who would have thought you needed a computer that could show slides to have a conf? [10:17:15] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:17:17] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:17:17] danwho | atz_: and what's plan B? [10:17:18] tokeee | We want pretty pictures! [10:17:21] decasm_ | latex + beamer = awesome [10:17:23] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:17:24] ndushay | diane - tell them why you love me! [10:17:33] jaron | ndushay++ [10:17:33] atz_ | danwho: freesteeeeeeeeyle [10:17:36] ecorrado | windows... the ultimate example of a toy project gone bad at a macro level [10:17:46] anna3lc | punctuation-- [10:17:46] akorphan | MOAR LOLCATS [10:17:46] ejk | http://snltranscripts.jt.org/99/pics/99fnickburns.jpg [10:17:50] akorphan | lolcats__ [10:17:55] akorphan | lolcats++ [10:17:59] sesuncedu | Real MARC does its own punctuation [10:18:03] ndushay | randomize the slides! [10:18:12] ---| <--- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-uxstobpkaqpurfia] has left #code4lib () [10:18:15] timmcgeary | insert catalogers w/ personality joke here [10:18:17] lbjay | dhillmann++ # totally rolling with it [10:18:17] akorphan | ndushay: ISBD-punctuate the slides! [10:18:17] BillDueber | In Soviet Russia...they don't so much use MARC, so it doesn't matter. [10:18:25] druthb | Testing_before_go-live++ [10:18:26] atz_ | "that kind of person" [10:18:27] MrDys- | code4food [10:18:27] ---| <<-- sciversedev [cpguyd@69.41.179.203] has quit (Client Quit) [10:18:30] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-uxstobpkaqpurfia] has joined #code4lib [10:18:30] csharp | heh [10:18:30] pberry | Code4food? [10:18:31] ranti | she's an aswesome troublesome cataloger #diane_hillmann [10:18:34] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:18:35] * anna3lc hopes slide committee will do a backup dance routine later [10:18:36] anarchivist | mcdonald++ [10:18:37] BillDueber | I'm not sure it's obvious that wasn't a real cataloger. [10:18:37] anarchivist | iu++ [10:18:44] decasm_ | always, always, always be ready to just talk, sans slides. [10:18:45] timmcgeary | mcdonald++ / to the rescue again [10:18:45] ndushay | how many techies does it take to get a windows machine to do slides properly? [10:18:47] anarchivist | @who is a closet cataloger? [10:18:48] zoia | ranti is a closet cataloger. [10:18:50] akorphan | This catalog card has gone all pear-shaped [10:18:53] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:18:53] mbklein1 | HTML5_slides++ http://slides.html5rocks.com/#landing-slide [10:18:56] skoczko | what was wrong with that amchine? [10:19:00] pberry | I'm not saying I was born in '73 [10:19:01] lbjay | @who is a cataloger's cataloger? [10:19:02] zoia | bmljenny is a cataloger's cataloger. [10:19:03] ndushay | i'm not a cataloger, but I could play one on tv. [10:19:07] ---| ---> baercat [9c383a2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.43] has joined #code4lib [10:19:08] ---| ---> Khalev [~ames@144.38.121.126] has joined #code4lib [10:19:14] pberry | But I'm not not saying that [10:19:21] timmcgeary | not i [10:19:24] anarchivist | @who is a cataloger's man? [10:19:24] zoia | eby is a cataloger's man. [10:19:25] eefcee | hand up [10:19:28] gsf | old people raise hands now [10:19:29] dchud | i feel old now [10:19:31] freqlurker | oldies represent [10:19:31] knickum | linux or windows techies? linux = 1, just run it on linux; windows = ??, jiggle the cord? [10:19:32] escowles | ndushay: just one if the slide is steep enough [10:19:32] abarrera | old_people-- [10:19:36] * jaf feels old [10:19:36] ---| ---> sciversedev [lytbek@69.41.179.203] has joined #code4lib [10:19:39] ndushay | aging-- [10:19:39] BillDueber | 1969, dude. Mere hours before htey landed on the moon [10:19:40] * archivist circa 1952 [10:19:41] BigD | abarrera ate 1973 [10:19:47] dchud | jaf: you *are* old [10:19:54] ---| <<-- tdonohue [8cb6f90e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.14] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:19:55] * sekjal wonders if he's the youngest person in the room.... hopefully that phase of his life is wrapping up [10:19:57] ndushay | anarchivist: c1952 or c. 1952 [10:19:58] jaf | dchud: yep [10:20:02] abarrera | BigD wasn't born, old man [10:20:04] skoczko | how many people were born after 1980? [10:20:05] * druthb circa 1968. My sister was born a day after you, BillDueber. [10:20:06] pberry | Let the ageism begin! [10:20:08] * dchud nods knowingly [10:20:10] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [10:20:10] gluejar | eisenhower administration++ [10:20:11] BillDueber | Once we learn what they know, we can fire their asses [10:20:20] * akorphan emerged fully formed from someone's forehead. [10:20:21] mbklein1 | I woke up on the morning of my 37th birthday and said aloud, "I'm 37! I'm not old!" My wife, bless her, correctly responded, "Well, I couldn't just say 'Man.'" [10:20:24] MrDys- | post-1980 here [10:20:28] archivist | dont be cheeky to your elders! [10:20:28] sekjal | skoczko: here, too [10:20:30] atz_ | BillDueber: if they live that long. [10:20:31] * BillDueber feels left out [10:20:35] mbklein1 | MrDys-: Get off my lawn. [10:20:37] BigD | Everyone else sucks. [10:20:40] sesuncedu | On my 37th birthday, I went to see clerks 2 [10:20:41] ndushay | I don't remember how to do math. [10:20:41] ---| User: *** mbklein1 is now known as mbklein [10:20:42] anarchivist | ndushay++ [10:20:45] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:20:50] ndushay | I do remember I met diane over marc 590 fields [10:20:57] rsinger | BillDueber: http://rubygems.org/gems/rdf-threadsafe [10:20:59] ndushay | but i'm glad I don't remember what was in those fields. [10:21:02] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:21:03] anarchivist | @who will feel the wrath of jeffrey beall? [10:21:04] zoia | dbucknum will feel the wrath of jeffrey beall. [10:21:08] akorphan | going_forward-- [10:21:11] BillDueber | rsinger++ # you so rock [10:21:13] gsf | ndushay++ [10:21:13] knickum | 1984 here, and George Orwell was full of crap [10:21:17] pberry | oy is my favorite language [10:21:18] sesuncedu | http://community.livejournal.com/lolbrarians/ [10:21:19] edsu | consultants+- [10:21:27] BigD | Ideas++ [10:21:28] BillDueber | Is that an "Oy!", like, yiddish? [10:21:29] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [10:21:47] bmljenny | Do catalogers like beer? [10:21:56] ---| <--- baercat [9c383a2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.43] has left #code4lib () [10:21:58] anarchivist | bmljenny: DUH [10:22:00] freqlurker | like isn't a stong enough word, in my experience [10:22:02] dchud | bmljenny: mine does :) [10:22:04] atz_ | BillDueber: no, it's allcaps, OY... like ska [10:22:05] helrond | charper ++ [10:22:06] druthb | only the very orderly ones, bmljenny. [10:22:07] ndushay | BillDueber: "oi" is the non-yiddish oy [10:22:09] ecorrado | bmljenny: the ones i know are more into red wine [10:22:09] bmljenny | Then why aren't we talking? [10:22:12] ---| ---> mlevy_ [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:22:12] freqlurker | s/trong/stong [10:22:16] BillDueber | "you probably also know..." Yea! She assumes we know something! [10:22:19] bmljenny | Maybe we just don't remember it. [10:22:21] wtd | On the video stream it's like Diane H is addressing the UN. [10:22:22] ndushay | diane used to have wine in her office. [10:22:22] pberry | orly [10:22:27] ---| <<-- mlevy [9c383a39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.57] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:22:32] akorphan | pberry: charles de gaulle! [10:22:38] BillDueber | Seriously, what is OY? [10:22:42] ndushay | diane used to have me in her office. [10:22:47] gsf | @takify respect [10:22:48] zoia | Ṛ Ệ Ŝ Ṗ Ẹ Ƈ Ţ [10:22:56] ecorrado | ndushay: TMI [10:22:59] mlevy_ | Oh veh [10:23:00] BillDueber | @scalia diane used to have me in her office. [10:23:00] zoia | BillDueber: diane 'used' to have me in her office. [10:23:05] pberry | Why is MARC struck through? [10:23:06] ndushay | ecorrado-- [10:23:07] sesuncedu | What does that mean to me? [10:23:08] mlevy_ | oops i meant "Oy veh" [10:23:13] lbjay | BillDueber+- [10:23:17] BillDueber | Get better chairs, for starters. [10:23:17] timmcgeary | BillDueber: it's my standard answer to a new project: "Oh, why?" [10:23:17] BigD | That chair wouldn't hold me [10:23:18] jaf | that's assuming our institutions have catalogers [10:23:24] BillDueber | timmcgeary++ [10:23:29] ---| ---> grk2me [~rooms@156-56-58-137.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:23:31] bmljenny | we're going to need a bigger basement. [10:23:39] timmcgeary | dhillman++ [10:23:42] ndushay | screen jitter-- [10:23:46] anarchivist | where we're going we don't need basements [10:23:49] lbjay | @dunno add are you going to do your thelma & louise thing again? [10:23:49] freqlurker | what if you are your institution's cataloger? [10:23:50] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1118 added. [10:23:56] BillDueber | me catalogers were shocked to find out we couldn't reliably parse stuff from variable fields [10:23:59] ndushay | i have not found too many catalogers with a sense of humor. [10:24:05] ---| ---> stevenrmiles [~srmiles@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:24:06] gsf | my library now hires "metadata librarians" only [10:24:11] ndushay | BillDueber: aaarrr! [10:24:18] BillDueber | ndushay: Once you've cataloged for a few years, it gets drummed out of you [10:24:20] pberry | Exacerbated. I don't know what that means [10:24:24] mbklein | 2007 [10:24:25] akorphan | ooh, ALA diss [10:24:26] decasm_ | what's ala? [10:24:29] jrochkind | gsf: calling it the 'learning commons' doesn't mean it ain't a library [10:24:31] anarchivist | ndushay: sounds like a problem with fixed fields [10:24:32] ndushay | ala mode? [10:24:32] ---| <<-- sciversedev [lytbek@69.41.179.203] has quit (Quit: Chatmosphere - IRC for Blackberry) [10:24:38] * druthb was at ALA last summer... helps that it was local to me. [10:24:39] alxp | she's buttering up this crowd really well [10:24:46] lbjay | how can you people drink coke for breakfast? [10:24:48] bmljenny | Nmh butter [10:24:51] gsf | jrochkind: true, and that's what we call it now, too [10:24:51] pberry | ala is French [10:24:53] kcoyle | ALCTS v LITA [10:25:00] decasm_ | coke, it's not just for breakfast anymore [10:25:01] ndushay | buttering up programmers was required on the National Science Digital Library [10:25:07] * ecorrado knows plenty of cataloggers with a sense of humor [10:25:09] MrDys- | I think that's more of a LITA diss than ALA [10:25:11] mbklein | I went to LITA this year, though, which is more ALA than it is tech-anything. [10:25:12] BillDueber | decasm: Not *just* [10:25:13] dchud | sometimes i think it was a mistake not to have that "cat+code" conference we started planning a few years ago [10:25:20] mcdonald | Metadata_Maven ++ [10:25:21] * anarchivist knows more programmers who have bad senses of humor [10:25:22] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:25:22] eby | Bourbon_and_coke++ [10:25:25] ---| ---> roguejul_ [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:25:32] knickum | coffee > coke > just give up and go back to bed [10:25:39] knickum | it's a desperation move really [10:25:42] timmcgeary | mbklein: still? I haven't been to LITA in 5 years because of that [10:25:44] charper | dchud: there really needs to be such a conference [10:25:45] ecorrado | @rate catalogers reference_librarians [10:25:48] zoia | ecorrado: catalogers: 8.5; reference librarians: 10.0. reference librarians rocks! [10:25:55] gsf | cli++ [10:25:57] mbklein | @weather [10:25:57] zoia | mbklein: (weather ) -- Get the weather forecast for from Weather Underground [10:25:59] ecorrado | zoia: you're strange [10:26:00] zoia | ecorrado: I call this problem measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe. [10:26:03] codemart | drinking coke bc there aint coffee [10:26:03] mbklein | @weather bloomington, in [10:26:04] ndushay | ecorrado: ok, catalogers sense of humor not overlapping with me [10:26:05] zoia | mbklein: Forecast for Bloomington, IN: Today: Partly cloudy. Nearly steady temperatures around 19. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Tonight: Partly cloudy. Lows around 9. Northwest winds up to 5 mph. Wind chill readings 1 below to 9 above zero. [10:26:06] timmcgeary | dang my eyes are getting bad [10:26:06] dchud | charper: maybe it's time [10:26:12] mbklein | There. I talked about the weather. [10:26:12] BillDueber | anarchivist: programmers are, as a group, less funny than we think we are. [10:26:20] * ejk CANNOT READ ON LIVE STREAM [10:26:21] ndushay | group s !!!!! [10:26:21] timmcgeary | pop quiz [10:26:26] ---| <<-- dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has quit () [10:26:31] BillDueber | (d) typesetters [10:26:32] ejk | Cataloger [10:26:33] ejk | s [10:26:36] lbjay | code4cats [10:26:37] timmcgeary | all of the above [10:26:39] dchud | s++ [10:26:39] pberry | BillDueber: Speak for yourself, I'm hilarious. But, looks aren't everything [10:26:40] ecorrado | Special Collections [10:26:40] akorphan | typesetting++ [10:26:41] archivist | programmer [10:26:41] knickum | hah, and then i told her of course you can't do that with the 1190!!! [10:26:47] BillDueber | pberry++ [10:26:51] timmcgeary | just different nitties and gritties [10:26:57] ndushay | pop in irc in front of her? [10:26:57] anarchivist | @hussein webinar [10:26:58] zoia | anarchivist: In whiner abuses [10:27:08] ndushay | where's the PDP11 ? [10:27:09] royt | wow, kudos to IU for the stream [10:27:09] timmcgeary | public service librarians want to see the interface first [10:27:09] mbklein | @hussein ngc4lib [10:27:10] zoia | mbklein: Since blushing [10:27:27] edsu | royt: seriously [10:27:28] royt | the bar has been set [10:27:32] ecorrado | where i am at, this isn't a issue, the catalogers and systems people are more interested in the big picture first. [10:27:39] anarchivist | @ana belly up to the bar [10:27:39] zoia | anarchivist: Halo petty burble [10:27:40] BigD | Yay, royt! [10:27:40] atz_ | this is exactly what came up in the SolR talk yesterday, about relevance... wanting to see exactly how relevance was computed [10:27:47] BillDueber | Step 1: Come to grips with the fact that we're never going to perfectly bring all the old data forward. [10:27:54] ecorrado | the other areas of the libraries tend to want to go directly to the solution [10:27:56] timmcgeary | ecorrado: don't ever leave there [10:28:01] BillDueber | $5 on the dog [10:28:02] dchud | royt: care to help dust off the cat+code conf idea? i'm ready finally if you still are. [10:28:02] akorphan | Dude, are those boxing puppies? [10:28:03] charper | ecorrado: I feel like that's happening more and more, but it's slow going. You're lucky. [10:28:08] pberry | Cat_photos++ [10:28:12] mbklein | royt: code4lib has never lacked for a bar [10:28:14] gsf | akorphan: one is a cat [10:28:15] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: MrDys-) [10:28:16] royt | dchud: totally [10:28:22] timmcgeary | that's one long tail [10:28:25] bmljenny | ok what is going on on that slide? [10:28:25] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [10:28:27] akorphan | gsf: hard to tell from the sides... [10:28:32] pberry | mbklein++ [10:28:35] ndushay | bottoms up, mates! [10:28:35] scolford | I do believe that cat is winning. [10:28:39] royt | mbklein: not that kind of bar ;-) [10:28:41] morgan8 | Cat fight [10:28:44] librarywebchi | royt: dchud: I'll help too! [10:28:45] gluejar | bottum-up solution=toy program [10:28:47] edsu | wish dhillman would talk about why cataloging matters at all anymore [10:28:49] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [10:28:51] BigD | dchud: I like that idea. Also thinking of mashing curatecamp and thatcamp [10:28:57] timmcgeary | slumber or coma? [10:29:03] pberry | Ignore the old problems [10:29:06] druthb | coma, tim. definitely. [10:29:07] MrDys- | campcamp camp [10:29:07] mbklein | ThatCurateCamp++ [10:29:11] fyodor | why would the "vendor community" wake up? [10:29:13] gluejar | I like toys [10:29:15] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:29:16] dchud | okay so we have 4-5 people, let's discuss today? [10:29:20] gsf | rosie the cataloging systems librarian [10:29:28] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [10:29:28] royt | dchud: I think I sttil have the email sitting around from the earlier time you brought this up [10:29:30] BillDueber | fyodor: Open source competition will force them to innovcate. Eventually. Maybe. [10:29:30] timmcgeary | gsf++ [10:29:30] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:29:32] * ecorrado doesn't blame vendors, /me blames librarians [10:29:42] ---| <<-- mcdonald [9c383a0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.13] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:29:42] librarywebchi | dchud: sure, pick time/place [10:29:43] BillDueber | ecorrado++ [10:29:43] BigD | I was thinking "CURATETHAT!" [10:29:44] sesuncedu | Catalogers are giving up on programming and learning ruby [10:29:44] druthb | ecorrado++ [10:29:45] dchud | royt: i think i had a backpack page [10:29:51] royt | likely [10:29:51] gluejar | if she can do it, why does she need vendors to wake up [10:29:53] BillDueber | librarians_unwilling_to_vote_with_their_feet-- [10:29:55] decasm_ | sesuncedu++ [10:29:57] anarchivist | @ana there's a microservice for that [10:29:58] zoia | anarchivist: Trashier comforter achieves [10:30:00] knickum | sesuncedu: ouch [10:30:02] eby | ecorrado: Also lucky to have people that arent set in way [10:30:02] atz_ | BillDueber: they will innovate new ways *of fucking you* [10:30:10] jrochkind | gluejar: can do what? singlehandedy change the entire system? nope [10:30:10] codemart | catalogers use dated images [10:30:15] scolford | atz_++ [10:30:19] dchud | royt, charper, librarywebchic, BigD: chat at break? [10:30:24] ecorrado | build your own cataloger? [10:30:30] fyodor | I've heard Diane talk about this before - that the commercial vendors are somehow going to get on board with developing the post-MARC magical linked data interfaces that will save us all\ [10:30:32] BigD | dchud: Si [10:30:33] ecorrado | that might take 20+ years [10:30:35] BillDueber | atz_: If the prodcut works, me getting fucked is just part of the contract that we build into the price. [10:30:36] knickum | sesuncedu++ [10:30:36] anarchivist | can haz nonfiling indicator? [10:30:36] charper | dchud: definitely. [10:30:39] gsf | the red part of the brain is filled with MARC [10:30:45] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:30:47] librarywebchi | dchud: have to go get ready to talk after Diane [10:30:55] lbjay | @lolz happy cataloger is happy [10:30:56] zoia | lbjay: HAPPEH KATALOGR IZ HAPPEH [10:30:56] akorphan | Vendors won't change until it's more monetarily risky to maintain the status quo than to change. [10:30:56] anna3lc | weird science: cataloger edition [10:31:03] BillDueber | Happy catalogers?????? [10:31:14] MrDys- | ah, stock photography [10:31:17] sesuncedu | Catalogers are goth [10:31:17] mbklein | Thinking and talking in MARC tags guarantees that you won't survive a change in metadata formats. [10:31:18] royt | dchud: it would have to be phone for me, I'm in CA [10:31:23] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [10:31:25] charper | akorphan: could it be that they get pushed, though? By things like ole & xc? [10:31:28] timmcgeary | keyboards taste better with bacon [10:31:28] sesuncedu | It's the cutters [10:31:32] * druthb hasn't met but one truly-happy cataloger, in twenty years...and even that was a questionable case. [10:31:34] sekjal | or, the "vendor community" stays asleep (or comatose) and some of us will band together to make a living off helping people fix problems [10:31:38] archivist | catalogers need to know how searching can work, stop fitting data to bad designs [10:31:40] bmljenny | This is why cataloging matters http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmljenny/5369192906/ [10:31:41] archivist | marc-- [10:31:42] pmurray | "thinking about in batch, rather than one at a time"++ [10:31:42] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:31:43] dchud | royt: no, you're here, i can feel your presence [10:31:44] gsf | data_that_isn't_marc++ [10:31:48] akorphan | charper: I think that libraries can push them, but it will probably be a costly process for us at first [10:31:50] ---| ---> greg-g [~greg@ubuntu/member/greg-g] has joined #code4lib [10:31:55] royt | dchud++ [10:31:59] lbjay | @who will be scandalized by something [someone] said in channel? [10:31:59] zoia | hkm will be scandalized by something paulalbert said in channel. [10:32:00] decasm_ | how many crosswalks can i put you down for? [10:32:01] ecorrado | timmcgeary: everything tastes better with bacon, even bacon tastes better with bacon [10:32:01] * greg-g waves at all the attendees [10:32:03] sesuncedu | @decide EAD or MARC [10:32:03] zoia | sesuncedu: That's a tough one... [10:32:03] akorphan | Libraries are more int he position to eat the cost initially [10:32:06] atz_ | batchiness++ [10:32:08] pberry | Rawr [10:32:13] akorphan | And they're hardly in that position at all.... [10:32:14] BillDueber | gsf: To be fair, non-MARC data is all shitty, too. It's just shitty data in an easier format. [10:32:21] escowles | sekjal: can we have capes? [10:32:27] ---| <<-- tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [10:32:27] gsf | BillDueber: i'll take it! [10:32:29] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cazzerson) [10:32:29] MrDys- | @Ana eat the cost [10:32:30] zoia | MrDys-: Ace hottest [10:32:30] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:32:32] timmcgeary | 800LBgorillas-- [10:32:34] * druthb bookmarks bmljenny's image set. [10:32:45] decasm_ | BillDueber: data is shitty, marc is constipated as well [10:32:49] edsu | code4lib is teaching ourselves, she nailed that [10:32:49] gsf | capes++ [10:32:51] akorphan | Good data is good [10:32:52] BillDueber | Is that royt inside an ape suit? [10:32:55] akorphan | or, less bad [10:32:57] timmcgeary | decasm_++ [10:33:04] dchud | charper, librarywebchic, charper: chat at reception tonight instead then? we can fill royt in later [10:33:07] ---| <<-- danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:33:14] royt | BillDueber: what suit? that's me on a good day [10:33:17] ---| ---> danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:33:18] BillDueber | http://metadata-wg.mannlib.cornell.edu [10:33:22] gsf | royt++ [10:33:23] librarywebchi | dchud: sounds good to me [10:33:27] mbklein | Yo dawg, I heard you like multiformat record consolidation, so I put a 856 in your 856 so you can collocate while you collocate [10:33:30] timmcgeary | royt++ [10:33:30] charper | dchud: yep. [10:33:35] BillDueber | royt++ [10:33:37] ecorrado | @duel 800lbgorilla pinkelephant [10:33:37] zoia | ecorrado: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [10:33:43] MrDys- | royt: don't you have a very important meeting to be at? [10:33:50] * timmcgeary is already a troublemaker - how can I do it better? [10:33:57] bmljenny | I think she can count on us being troublemakers. [10:33:59] royt | MrDys: it's 7:32 am in CA ;-) [10:34:00] BillDueber | royt: What state of the union is your Big Meeting in? [10:34:12] mbklein | @weather Stanford, CA [10:34:14] * druthb used to make a lot more trouble than she does lately. [10:34:16] zoia | mbklein: Forecast for Stanford, CA: Today: Sunny. Highs in the mid 50s to mid 60s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. Tonight: Clear. Lows in the upper 30s to mid 40s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. [10:34:17] atz_ | timmcgeary: can your trouble scale? [10:34:19] akorphan | wait, didn't we see this chart? [10:34:20] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:34:22] royt | BillDueber: California [10:34:23] pberry | Heh, causing trouble is how I ended up in the library [10:34:23] MrDys- | royt is feeling ambitious today [10:34:24] escowles | MOAR TENSION [10:34:31] skoczko | Tension, again? [10:34:33] lbjay | @forecast 02420 [10:34:34] zoia | lbjay: 36°?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET [10:34:36] mbklein | akorphan: This one is missing the ring. [10:34:44] sesuncedu | Don't know where that book is mate. Could be anywhere. [10:34:49] librarywebchi | @forecast 77062 [10:34:50] zoia | librarywebchic: 46°?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT [10:34:54] BillDueber | "Current OPAC" users will become "new opac" users. Screw 'em. [10:34:58] druthb | the up-down axis is the *same* one from twenty years ago, in the ILS vs paper card discussion. [10:35:03] * mbklein is starting to hope anna3lc was right about the post-conference massages. [10:35:04] timmcgeary | atz_ well, the scalability of some of my trouble is definitely pushing boundaries [10:35:05] knickum | @weather 68522 [10:35:06] zoia | knickum: Forecast for Lincoln, NE: Today: Cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow in the morning. Bitterly cold. Highs around 4. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill readings around 22 below. Tonight: Decreasing clouds. Very cold. Lows around 1 below. Northwest winds around 10 mph. [10:35:11] ecorrado | more Tension [10:35:13] BillDueber | What's teh "guidance instruction"? [10:35:25] jrochkind | rules for how to fill out a form [10:35:28] sesuncedu | Instrument Landing Systems [10:35:38] edsu | where it's at, two turntables and some guidance instructions [10:35:39] akorphan | @cyborg ILS [10:35:41] zoia | akorphan: I.L.S.: Individual Limited to Sabotage [10:35:43] BillDueber | jrochkind++ [10:35:44] mbklein | Don't worry, streaming feed watchers -- we can't read this slide either. [10:35:45] maccabee | when your guidance counselor says to stick to the safe schools [10:35:53] jstirnaman | wish she would've fleshed that out a bit more [10:35:53] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:35:57] * ejk can't quite read that slide... [10:35:59] freqlurker | is that a picture of a loofah? [10:36:06] timmcgeary | just learned I'm flying solo on my talk this morning - co-presenter has sick child [10:36:06] escowles | now that's a cloud i can believe in [10:36:10] knickum | does anyone have the url for the c4l livestream, offhand? [10:36:16] jstirnaman | http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/sessions.php [10:36:17] pberry | Cloud loofah [10:36:20] pmurray | cramming_into_MARC_databases-- [10:36:23] roguejul_ | dchud: interested in conference idea. Can I join in? [10:36:24] dchud | the LOD cloud still looks like a reference desk to me [10:36:25] sesuncedu | cram it in yer marc database [10:36:27] ejk | live_stream++ [10:36:28] BillDueber | You can't tell from the slide, but "Libraries" is that tiny little blue dot next to the arrow [10:36:33] gsf | loofah computing [10:36:36] mbklein | freqlurker: It's the functional requirements graph for the new LUFAH data scrubbing standard [10:36:37] fyodor | bigger version of the slide: http://richard.cyganiak.de/2007/10/lod/imagemap.html [10:36:41] akorphan | contrast++ [10:36:42] davidWalker | @weather [10:36:42] zoia | davidWalker: (weather ) -- Get the weather forecast for from Weather Underground [10:36:44] kcoyle | ld cloud drinking game = one drink every time cloud appears [10:36:47] jrochkind | yeah, there's a bunch of stuff in here that needs to be fleshed out, too much time on setting things up instead of meat [10:36:49] davidWalker | @weather 92009 [10:36:51] zoia | davidWalker: Forecast for Carlsbad, CA: Today: Areas of low clouds and fog in the morning then patchy low clouds. Highs 60 to 65. Light winds. Tonight: Mostly cloudy in the evening...becoming partly cloudy. Colder. Lows 40 to 50. Light winds becoming northeast 15 to 20 mph with gusts to 25 mph overnight. [10:36:51] dchud | roguejul_: sure, find us at the reception tonight. though i don't know you from your nick :) [10:36:54] bmljenny | BUBLZ [10:36:56] edsu | kcoyle++ # will tea work? [10:36:58] * druthb enjoys making catalogers go "Eek!" [10:36:58] pmurray | Where is that cataloger-eeek button again? ;-) [10:37:08] akorphan | sigh, marc data [10:37:10] royt | YAHOO for revolutionary change [10:37:11] kcoyle | tea, tame. [10:37:17] BillDueber | pmurray: Above the left knee [10:37:20] ecorrado | SW Dog Food? (it is one of the things in the chart) [10:37:21] edsu | kcoyle: shoot [10:37:21] ---| Channel: dbs changed the topic of #code4lib to: Welcome to #code4lib - logged for the duration of the conference | Live stream at http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/sessions.php [10:37:24] charper | kcoyle++ ; what happens in talks I give that show 4 versions of said cloud in succession? [10:37:27] akorphan | when was the RDBMS invented? [10:37:33] lbjay | dbs++ [10:37:35] BillDueber | OPAC-- [10:37:36] csharp | dbs++ [10:37:39] jstirnaman | wholesale == macro? [10:37:40] jrochkind | akorphan: late 60s i think? [10:37:45] jaf | no more lipstick for the pig [10:37:50] kcoyle | lots of drinks, drunk crowd is happy crowd [10:38:02] anna3lc | find catalogers. convince them that data they have no control over is good. [10:38:03] dbs | I had some lipstick, but the pig ated it [10:38:05] tingletech | relational calculus came before RDBMS [10:38:05] ---| <<-- jwd [~jwd@140-182-229-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jwd) [10:38:06] jrochkind | akorphan: took 15 or 20 years to maturity of course [10:38:07] timmcgeary | finished-- [10:38:07] druthb | If we keep waiting for it to be *started*.... [10:38:07] gsf | software is never finished [10:38:11] gsf | no rest for the weary [10:38:12] pberry | Finished? Hahahahaha [10:38:15] edsu | finished == dead [10:38:15] akorphan | jrochkind: true, true [10:38:15] timmcgeary | goodenough++ [10:38:18] * zoia chuckles [10:38:20] MrDys- | mmm lunch [10:38:21] escowles | it'll be finished when it's dead [10:38:22] abarrera | BigD eats everyones lunch [10:38:23] akorphan | a job worth doing is worth doing poorly. [10:38:23] BigD | abarrera ate my lunch [10:38:24] freqlurker | I'm going to eat my lunch, thanks very much [10:38:25] BillDueber | kcoyle: If we could just get all the patrons drunk and keep them that way...wait. I suddenly understand the undergrad Greek system. [10:38:27] pberry | Interative [10:38:27] lbjay | yikes [10:38:30] ecorrado | best presentaiton ever at EndUser: Coors Brewing Company Library (yes, they brought free samples) [10:38:30] ---| <<-- dfunk [~dfunk@d-128-193-235.bootp.Virginia.EDU] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:38:31] bmljenny | People out of the gate eating my lunch? [10:38:33] gsf | dbs! [10:38:33] jrochkind | E. F. Codd introduced the term in his seminal paper "A Relational Model of Data for Large Shared Data Banks", published in 1970 [10:38:38] Baroquem | Scary [10:38:40] jrochkind | The first systems that were relatively faithful implementations of the relational model were from the University of Michigan; Micro DBMS (1969) and from IBM UK Scientific Centre at Peterlee; IS1 (1970–72) and its followon PRTV (1973–79). The first system sold as an RDBMS was Multics Relational Data Store, first sold in 1978. Others have been Berkeley Ingres QUEL and IBM BS12. [10:38:40] timmcgeary | dear god that's a fugly picture [10:38:43] mbklein | The point of scylla and charibdis isn't that you can get past the danger with careful navigation. It's that, once you *do* navigate through, there are still 12 other things waiting to kill you. [10:38:44] gsf | dbs: you are missed [10:38:46] abarrera | BigD beat u to it fat boy [10:38:47] freqlurker | i can't unsee that picture [10:38:49] anarchivist | dhillman++ [10:38:53] ejk | comic_sans-- [10:38:59] royt | freqlurker++ [10:39:00] atz_ | internal_metals++ [10:39:01] akorphan | papyrus-- [10:39:07] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [10:39:08] pberry | RDA? [10:39:13] ranti | nutty catalogers are nutz [10:39:17] BigD | abarrera: My fat fingers are too slow for the iPad [10:39:17] mbklein | gsf: If you wanted dbs here, you shouldn't have put him on the terrorist watch list. [10:39:22] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:39:23] anarchivist | mbklein: there's a hydra joke in there somewhere [10:39:23] pmurray | pberry: Resource Description and Access. [10:39:26] ecorrado | RDA-- [10:39:31] jstirnaman | testing_theaters++ [10:39:33] charper | Love this point that squeezing RDA into MARC is *not* a measure of RDA's value. [10:39:35] BillDueber | pmurray: http://www.rdatoolkit.org/ [10:39:35] druthb | whole_different_questions++ [10:39:36] dchud | i argued for this fwiw. i suggested to folks working on testing that they should contact a dozen of the folks in this room for help with testing [10:39:37] gsf | mbklein: it seemed so funny at the time [10:39:41] yitznewton | whoever_got_streaming_this_year++ [10:39:49] abarrera | BigD they don't have a sausage finger emulating test at Apple, sorry. [10:39:50] dchud | maybe i should've followed up with that more. [10:39:50] lbjay | i made something into something else but i ated it [10:39:51] druthb | They don't have to worry about changing how they do their jobs. [10:39:53] charper | dchud: were you just flat shot-down? [10:39:55] timmcgeary | interesting... [10:39:55] * BillDueber has made that argument. [10:39:57] royt | dchud++ [10:39:57] * gsf is scared by that picture [10:40:00] edsu | dchud++ [10:40:01] ---| ---> mcdonald [9c383a0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.13] has joined #code4lib [10:40:01] dbs | gsf: I couldn't figure out a way to top my hysterical "OMG my passport is locked in a safe in Atlanta" tale of ought-9 [10:40:02] pberry | You think, I know! I'll use XSLT. Now you have two problems. [10:40:07] bmljenny | Can we move to the next picture please? [10:40:07] lbjay | NEXT SLIDE! [10:40:11] mbklein | gsf: http://goo.gl/5n1Qf [10:40:11] zoia | mbklein: Don't you mean ? [10:40:13] timmcgeary | I think that's the first I've heard RDA is not enough change [10:40:14] dchud | charper: no i wasn't shot down. they were receptive. [10:40:17] jrochkind | yeah, diane doens't realize that she had to give background on what she's talking about, sadly. this audience does not have the context she thinks it has. [10:40:23] alxp | pberry++ [10:40:26] akorphan | nightmare_fuel-- [10:40:28] lbjay | @who is going to upchuck? [10:40:28] zoia | alek_br is going to upchuck. [10:40:28] ---| ---> mackeral [~androirc@184-203-250-49.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #code4lib [10:40:32] dchud | but i think they didn't know how to connect... i also advocated for publishing their testing data [10:40:37] dchud | i think they did right? [10:40:39] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [10:40:40] charper | jrochkind: kinda makes her point in an unintended way, then. [10:40:41] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [10:40:42] lbjay | @who will clean it up? [10:40:43] zoia | dchud will clean it up. [10:40:45] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-uxstobpkaqpurfia] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:40:50] royt | Hillmann rocks [10:40:58] timmcgeary | I'm getting a lot more exciting to talk with Diane about OLE [10:40:58] BillDueber | Anyone recognize that picture? [10:41:01] charper | dchud: yes, they published some test data. Which is good. [10:41:01] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:41:02] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-dotcgctuysvittuk] has joined #code4lib [10:41:04] ---| Channel: dbs changed the topic of #code4lib to: Welcome to #code4lib - logged for the duration of the conference | Live stream at http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/sessions.php | mcdonald++ [10:41:04] timmcgeary | s/exciting/excited [10:41:14] royt | BINGO [10:41:16] akorphan | billdueber: It's not Street Fighter, that's for sure. [10:41:17] edsu | totally right [10:41:18] dchud | charper: is the test data available from http://www.loc.gov/bibliographic-future/rda/ ? [10:41:19] ranti | dbs++ [10:41:20] * dchud looks [10:41:21] druthb | LC is *way* too close to the vacuum of intelligent behavior that is Congress. [10:41:23] ranti | mcdonald++ [10:41:33] dchud | LC is not a monolithic borg. [10:41:35] druthb | LC as "leadership" is laughable. [10:41:39] dchud | UNLESS I'M DELUSIONAL [10:41:47] charper | dchud: doesn't look like it. [10:41:47] royt | ALA makes a lot of money on cataloging code [10:41:47] gsf | mbklein: nutty brits [10:41:51] anarchivist | @sing das racist : chicken and meat : library [10:41:53] zoia | [Victor]barcodebarcodelibrary of congressmolto spinachphoto finishcanoncannonshoot me out the cannongun blastercut fastermuevelomueveloven pa'quaoh my godit's so hardandaleandaleepaepafastest rodentcheck the componentsandaleLyricsandaleepaarribaniñapintasanta mariaave mariaave mariacheese, bread, sauce, pizzeriacarlos santanajuelz santanab-b-b-b-b-b-bananasb-b-b-b-b-b-bananasyoung moneyhannah montanatony (6 more messages) [10:41:53] BillDueber | Does LC have a "crazy skunkworks projects" group at all? [10:41:59] jaf | dchud; all your catalogers are belong to us [10:42:07] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@137.54.20.50] has joined #code4lib [10:42:08] BillDueber | BTW, IU++ for having a network than can keep up with all of this. [10:42:12] dchud | seriously, the right people are in the room right now to grab this data and test it in blacklight, vufind, koha, evergreen, etc. [10:42:17] dbs | dchud: put your rose-coloured borg eyepiece back on! [10:42:18] * jrochkind thought edsu was one big 'crazy skunkworks project' [10:42:21] knickum | IU++ bigtime [10:42:24] anna3lc | find catalogers. convince them to embrace data they didn't create. then convince them LoC is not in charge. [10:42:24] dchud | let's find the data. [10:42:25] mbklein | BillDueber: You mean for building toys? [10:42:26] druthb | IU++ [10:42:31] edsu | kinda confused about what needs to change in MARC [10:42:34] gsf | @rate top-down bottom-up [10:42:34] pberry | IU++ [10:42:35] royt | jrochkind++ [10:42:37] atz_ | IU++ (let's hope it holds up in the alumni hall) [10:42:37] zoia | gsf: top-down: 9.1; bottom-up: 7.9. top-down rocks! [10:42:39] akorphan | ibahn-- [10:42:40] sesuncedu | The hawks eat the skunks [10:42:44] dchud | dbs: is that what OH NOOooOOo [10:42:55] mbklein | anna3lc++ Why aren't you in this channel the other 361 days out of the year? [10:42:56] escowles | bottom-up++ [10:43:02] pmurray | 169 people in channel. [10:43:02] erikhatcher | BillDueber: what was the picture from? [10:43:07] akorphan | bottoms-up++ [10:43:13] BillDueber | erikhatcher: I was honestly asking. [10:43:18] anarchivist | gdunsire++ [10:43:19] paulalbert | http://www.dlib.org/dlib/january10/hillmann/01hillmann.html [10:43:19] gsf | mbklein: anna3lc has more important things to do [10:43:22] pberry | I feel kind of lucky coming into the library from "the outside" [10:43:24] BillDueber | this_article++ [10:43:26] mbklein | gsf: phsaw [10:43:29] kcoyle | edsu, look at http://futurelib.pbworks.com/w/page/29114548/MARC-elements [10:43:30] anna3lc | mbklein: I can't figure out what you guys are talking about without giant pictures [10:43:31] pmurray | paulalbert++ [10:43:32] mbklein | gsf: pshaw, even [10:43:37] timmcgeary | paulalbert++ [10:43:40] kcoyle | i'm working on analysis of marc so we can transform it [10:43:43] * timmcgeary will read it [10:43:47] charper | So few hands! Read this article folks. [10:43:51] rjhoyle | http://www.dlib.org/dlib/january10/hillmann/01hillmann.html [10:44:01] pmurray | Too few hands! [10:44:12] akorphan | troublemakers++ [10:44:23] lbjay | @blame troublemakers [10:44:23] zoia | lbjay: Situation Normal, troublemakers Fouled Up [10:44:28] ndushay | http://dlib.org/dlib/january10/hillmann/01hillmann.html [10:44:33] lbjay | all they do is play with their toys [10:44:36] ---| <<-- danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [10:44:37] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:44:38] pmurray | Works for libraries and works outside of libraries! [10:44:40] timmcgeary | posted link to #c4l11 trend [10:44:41] dchud | i don't agree with the strategy of throwing stones at the process. extend the process yourself and test it with your stuff. [10:44:45] mbklein | charper: I tagged it on Delicious. That's the same thing, right? [10:44:46] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:44:48] sesuncedu | Of course, the RDF version of RDA violates the 1:1 principle. [10:44:52] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:44:52] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:44:53] atz_ | and..... *REVEAL* [10:44:54] druthb | pushing_cataloger_buttons++ [10:45:01] sesuncedu | The other version just violates common sense [10:45:04] edsu | what's the replacement for MARC again? [10:45:10] BillDueber | edsu: CONFIRM OR DENY!!! [10:45:10] sesuncedu | edsu: MARC [10:45:14] royt | MARC Must Die! [10:45:14] dchud | not a monolithic borg. really. [10:45:14] decasm_ | has needed to be replaced for a long time [10:45:15] charper | mbkein. I've read a lot of important stuff, then! [10:45:16] edsu | sesuncedu: hahaha [10:45:16] pberry | http://teddziuba.com/2011/02/the-case-against-queues.html apropos of nothing [10:45:19] timmcgeary | sesuncedu++ [10:45:23] scolford | replacing_marc_with_marc-- [10:45:24] mbklein | charper++ [10:45:24] kcoyle | edsu, anything that works, but not just one thing [10:45:31] mbklein | THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS! [10:45:32] ejk | JSON, right? [10:45:36] abarrera | poor Marc from accounting LOC is gonna replace him [10:45:40] pmurray | She just said "innovative" -- /me shudders [10:45:43] gsf | kcoyle! [10:45:44] dbs | mbklein: Keeping up with the Cardassians, eh? [10:45:44] ecorrado | edsu: That's part of the whole problem with RDA, it doesn't replace MARC. It replaces AACR2 [10:45:46] lbjay | dhillmann++ [10:45:46] timmcgeary | abarrera++ [10:45:47] ---| ---> eddies [~eddies@unaffiliated/eddies] has joined #code4lib [10:45:47] edsu | kcoyle: erm, yeah? so i can replace it with ice-cream? [10:45:48] decasm_ | marc is dead. long live marc! [10:45:48] pberry | mbklein++ [10:45:50] jrochkind | especially she doesnt understand why edsu would want to keep it. [10:45:51] jaf | well, my crazy head keeps thinking "So, do we even need to catalog anymore, outside of the need for us to track inventory?" [10:45:52] akorphan | wait, why do catalogers want to keep MARC other than the fac that it's what they're used to? [10:46:02] pberry | open! [10:46:04] gluejar | jaf++ [10:46:05] edsu | what's here? what's ready? [10:46:08] mbklein | pmurray: Something Innovative is on the Horizon! [10:46:17] timmcgeary | edsu: marc22 [10:46:17] gsf | mbklein-- [10:46:18] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:46:19] ---| ---> chickmarkley [~chickmark@conference/code4lib/x-yxjtxjjkkdqzwsma] has joined #code4lib [10:46:25] anna3lc | mbklein++ [10:46:28] pmurray | mbklein-- [10:46:29] druthb | appropriate_beverages++ [10:46:32] timmcgeary | appropriate_beverages++ [10:46:33] pberry | puns++ [10:46:34] akorphan | ibahn-- [10:46:36] lbjay | @ana Something Innovative is on the Horizon! [10:46:36] zoia | lbjay: Moth-eaten visions on thieving [10:46:37] ecorrado | akorphan: I don't know many catalogers that don't want to replaceMARC, but they want to replace it with somethignthat is worth the price/costs [10:46:38] scolford | mbklein-- [10:46:38] edsu | what would you take up? [10:46:40] charper | edsu: something that defines data a bit more clearly, doesn't bury important information in fixed coded values, and tries to reflect a data model that makes sense. [10:46:43] pmurray | zoia++ [10:46:45] lbjay | zoia++ [10:46:48] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:46:49] * ecorrado doubts RDA is worth it [10:46:50] ndushay | b/c metadata standards have been driving us nuts for years [10:46:51] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:46:56] edsu | charper: what is that something? [10:46:57] dbs | The only thing that's better than MARC is more MARC! [10:46:59] sesuncedu | charper: all you need is a data model... [10:47:00] kcoyle | she's talking about the rda vocabs in rdf http://metadataregistry.org/rdabrowse.htm [10:47:05] bmljenny | What is she accusing us of? [10:47:05] fyodor | RDA in MARC is not worth shit [10:47:17] BillDueber | akorphan: "used to it" doesn't appreciate the scale of it. MARC is the language catalogers use "in their heads." It's the undercurrent of the library world's entire way of thinking about data [10:47:26] edsu | kcoyle: wish she would say that, to make it a bit more concrete [10:47:27] freqlurker | fyodor++ [10:47:29] kcoyle | however, rda in rdf is.... rda in rdf. [10:47:30] ---| <<-- roguejul_ [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:47:30] charper | edsu: I honestly think it's some flavor of the idea of DC App. Profiles. [10:47:31] druthb | BillDueber++ [10:47:32] ndushay | it turns out that human controlled metadata ... isn't. [10:47:35] pberry | Yo dawg, I hear you like metadata [10:47:35] decasm_ | BillDueber: that explains a lot ... [10:47:40] ---| ---> acdha [~acdha@pool-151-200-33-191.washdc.btas.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [10:47:43] gsf | @quote add < mbklein> Something Innovative is on the Horizon! [10:47:44] sesuncedu | RDA - Really the Damn AACR3 [10:47:44] charper | Combined with useful and well defined sets of metadata properties. [10:47:45] zoia | can i get a witness? [10:47:47] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #2508 added. [10:47:50] ---| ---> karindalziel [~Adium@lib10050.unl.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:47:52] jaf | i mean, if you want big change, make a distinction of description for the sake of inventory / management and description for the ability to support discovery, and then identify the bridges that enable access [10:48:01] anna3lc | new don't-be-seen-laughing technique: duck behind head in front of me [10:48:01] akorphan | BillDueber: Point taken. [10:48:03] charper | jaf++ [10:48:07] fyodor | sesuncedu++ [10:48:10] akorphan | chocolate++ [10:48:14] akorphan | edible_tools++ [10:48:15] dlovins | chocolate_tools++ [10:48:17] freqlurker | tummy just rumbled [10:48:18] anna3lc | chocolate++ [10:48:18] jrochkind | actually, i need edible ones [10:48:19] akorphan | chocolate_Rain-- [10:48:19] BillDueber | akorphan: It's like asking, "Why don't programmers just all go to pure functional programming across an indeterminite number of cores for eveytihng"? [10:48:23] pberry | candy++ [10:48:25] charper | sesuncedu: Yes - the data model is the start of it, I think. [10:48:26] * mbklein ran out of steam trying to work Symphony and Unicorn into the same sentence. [10:48:27] lbjay | @band add Chocolate Tool [10:48:28] zoia | lbjay: Band 'Chocolate Tool' added to list [10:48:28] MrDys- | @sing Aaliyah : we need a resolution [10:48:28] * timmcgeary started to drool [10:48:30] gsf | @rate real_tools edible_tools [10:48:30] zoia | Am I supposed to change? Are you supposed to change? / Who should be hurt? Will we remain? / You need a resolution, I need a resolution, / We need a resolution, We have so much confusion. [10:48:32] pberry | @love candy [10:48:33] zoia | gsf: real tools: 10.0; edible tools: ?. real tools rocks! [10:48:35] zoia | pberry: The operation succeeded. pberry loves candy. [10:48:35] bmljenny | We would eat our own dog food more if it were chocolate. [10:48:36] sekjal | editable_complex_tools++ [10:48:39] scolford | can you pull a rotten tooth with chocolate pliers? [10:48:43] * BillDueber is at 19% battery and dropping... [10:48:44] mbklein | lbjay: There used to be a store in Allston that would make those for you. [10:48:45] decasm_ | BillDueber: yeah, why don't programmers do that? [10:49:02] fyodor | totally distracted by sugar craving now... what were we talking about? [10:49:04] sekjal | not_enough_caffeine_to_make_any_sense-- [10:49:04] anna3lc | this is why we don't move beyond toy projects. chocolate and bacon come along. [10:49:04] pberry | I wonder if John Candy invented candy... [10:49:05] BillDueber | decasm: Because it's hard, and I'm old. [10:49:08] akorphan | @sing Allstonians : B-train to Allston [10:49:10] zoia | akorphan: No lyrics found for B-train to Allston by Allstonians [10:49:16] akorphan | zoia-- [10:49:19] ---| <--- karindalziel [~Adium@lib10050.unl.edu] has left #code4lib () [10:49:21] decasm_ | BillDueber: i guess that answers both questions. [10:49:23] ecorrado | A huger challenge is how much it is going to cost to do all this and how libraries with budget cuts (esp. smaller publics) are going to be able to afford it [10:49:23] yitznewton | pberry: candy invented John Candy [10:49:27] willkurt | BillDueber: but thinking in marc is a little more like if we all still used COBOL [10:49:40] ecorrado | also, having systems that can deal with RDA sans MARC [10:49:42] pberry | yitznewton: It makes sense, right [10:49:42] BigD | abarrera ate the tools [10:49:44] BillDueber | willkurt: Ex LIbris products still do. [10:49:45] * dchud fires off email to folks at LC who would know where the data is [10:49:45] charper | willkurt: some of us Aleph shops basically do! [10:49:47] erikhatcher | orange whip? orange whip? [10:49:52] druthb | COBOL....*shudders* [10:49:52] yitznewton | willkurt: oh, wait [10:49:59] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [10:50:00] dlovins | ecorrado++ [10:50:02] ecorrado | los of COBOL still out there [10:50:03] mbklein | pberry: Did Melvil Dui invent driving drunk? [10:50:03] timmcgeary | mbklein: sounds like a music composition issue - writing a Medley from a Symphony based on a Unicorn [10:50:03] abarrera | BigD ate all his fresh jokes [10:50:03] edsu | charper: there ya go [10:50:04] druthb | I'd rather type my fingers off in IRC, than writing COBOL code. [10:50:11] * BillDueber is a strong believer in a two-state solution. Leave the current MARC as MARC and make new stuff better. [10:50:12] yitznewton | @cyborg COBOL [10:50:12] * ranti suddenly thinks wallmart inventory style to replace MARC [10:50:13] zoia | yitznewton: C.O.B.O.L.: Cybernetic Operational Battle and Observation Lifeform [10:50:15] sesuncedu | I had to learn COBOL a few years ago [10:50:24] pmurray | 170 people in channel. [10:50:29] pberry | @Ana [10:50:30] mbklein | channel++ [10:50:30] zoia | pberry: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [10:50:35] MrDys- | @Ana bloody Marc [10:50:35] charper | gdunsire++ [10:50:36] zoia | MrDys-: Moldy cobra [10:50:37] ejk | I made it one week in my COBOL class [10:50:40] anna3lc | catalogers that figure it out become coders who can not figure out how to relate to catalogers. [10:50:42] pberry | @ana COBOL [10:50:43] zoia | pberry: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [10:50:48] davidWalker | somewhere an Aleph programmer sheds a tear [10:50:51] pberry | :/ [10:50:52] anna3lc | s/that/who [10:50:53] druthb | BillDueber: we may have to create a two-state solution...a system that allows the old farts to keep thinking in MARC, but backend tools to slice-and-dice. [10:51:00] ejk | one week of COBOL was one week too many [10:51:00] bmljenny | No cat, no cradle. [10:51:01] rsinger | @band add The Moldy Cobra [10:51:02] zoia | rsinger: Band 'The Moldy Cobra' added to list [10:51:05] mbklein | @ana resource description & access [10:51:06] zoia | mbklein: Capricious, decent sorceress [10:51:09] sesuncedu | To explain why an IBM mainframe ought to be able to append more than 20 lines to a file per second [10:51:13] pberry | Sounds like virtual directories [10:51:14] timmcgeary | druthb: come over to the OLE side [10:51:17] mbklein | zoia++ [10:51:21] BillDueber | druthb: Too true. A system that stored, internally, sane data, but could output MARC is the most obvious transsition path. [10:51:23] sesuncedu | Aleph used to be Mainframe only [10:51:29] anna3lc | diagrams++ [10:51:30] akorphan | I think we should do all our programming in APL. [10:51:32] yitznewton | druthb: i think "they" tried that and realized 'taint so easy to slice n dice marc [10:51:39] BillDueber | sesuncedu++ # I didn't know that. [10:51:39] gsf | the FR family, or framily [10:51:44] rsinger | you all are talking too much, btw - please hold your little library nerd get-together sometime when i'm more distractable, kthx [10:51:47] yitznewton | at least cataloger-generated marc [10:51:50] atz_ | sounds like a rap crew.... "ifla, in the RFA family" [10:51:54] charper | gsf++ [10:51:55] royt | ISBD-- [10:51:57] MrDys- | gsf++ [10:51:59] edsu | rsinger: you watchin' livestream? [10:52:00] charper | The Framily! [10:52:03] rsinger | edsu: no [10:52:06] mbklein | charper++ [10:52:10] kcoyle | yeah framily [10:52:11] timmcgeary | ginzo4lib - community building tools to slice n dice MARC [10:52:14] jrochkind | edsu: are you here in indiana? [10:52:15] edsu | rsinger: it's shockingly good [10:52:16] royt | we are fated to spend the rest of our natural born lives trying to overcome ISBD [10:52:16] rsinger | 2 MUCH 2 DU [10:52:19] druthb | yitznewton: Then "we" need to try again, and *keep* trying. Saying "it can't be done" is a waste of a good crisis. [10:52:20] sesuncedu | FRSAD [10:52:22] pberry | Oracle does this identity stuff in their own database, but offer and ldap query interface. Imagine that for metadata [10:52:26] edsu | jrochkind: no, alas [10:52:30] pberry | Or does that already exist [10:52:31] rsinger | edsu: oh yeah? [10:52:31] mbklein | @who cares if rsinger is distracted? [10:52:32] zoia | tekonivel cares if rsinger is distracted. [10:52:32] ecorrado | does any ILS actually store BIB records only in MARC? [10:52:37] paulalbert | Quotable from RDA critic Michael Gorman: "This is the witches’ brew of ignorance, neophilia, and the exaltation of theory over practice that given birth to the draft Resource description and access III(RDA)." [10:52:38] jaf | i would love a follow-up talk by Diane on cataloging practice in relation to discovery [10:52:45] edsu | rsinger: yeah dude, http://www.indiana.edu/~video/stream/liveflash.html?filename=C4L2011_session_1 [10:52:48] akorphan | I can't remember what ISBD covers besides punctuation [10:52:50] royt | ISBD-- [10:52:57] freqlurker | Thank God Gorman isn't reactionary [10:52:58] royt | akorphan: that's basically it [10:53:07] yitznewton | druthb: well that's the question, no: whether to reteach the cataloging sector, or continue on with marc. when *do* we move past marc? [10:53:08] BillDueber | ecorrado: Well, not "only". [10:53:09] rsinger | edsu: it'll be archived, right? [10:53:10] atz_ | ecorrado: they base their extraction of data (to tables) on MARC structure [10:53:11] dlovins | paulalbert++ [10:53:14] ecorrado | I don't normally like Michael Gorman, but I Agree with that statement [10:53:16] akorphan | royt: then... it's not... data. [10:53:24] royt | akorphan: exactly [10:53:29] ecorrado | atz_: true, but noit stored as MARC is my point [10:53:29] kcoyle | ISBD is about "areas" of the catalog entry [10:53:32] charper | royt: akorphan: ISBD actually had a core set of data elements, too. The puncuation was there to support them. [10:53:34] edsu | rsinger: yeah, so you can cherry pick the good ones later i guess [10:53:36] pberry | Old/new == false dichotomy? [10:53:36] BillDueber | yitznewton: The same time we start paying down the debt and reducing greenhouse gases. "Later" [10:53:39] mbklein | paulalbert: To quote Nigel Tufnel, "That's just nitpicking, innit?" [10:53:40] jrochkind | akorphan: theoretially ISBD is actually a schema/data vocabulary. It delineates the discrete data elements of bibliographic metadata. And it does it just the way people in 1950 would have done it. [10:53:52] ecorrado | a lot of the complaints about not being able to easily parse MARC are bogus in my book [10:54:05] rsinger | edsu: WILL YOU BE MY QUALITY CURATOR, THANKS. [10:54:05] pberry | mbklein: I'm not being pedantic, I'm being correct [10:54:06] kcoyle | jrochkind ISBD does it the way Cutter would have done it in 1848 [10:54:07] decasm_ | ecorrado: your book is wrong [10:54:14] eby | ecorrado: Evergreen stores the bib as serialized Marc XML i believe and extracts things that are needed. At least that was how it was explained to me [10:54:15] charper | jrochkind: thank you for explainin that better than my attempt... [10:54:15] jrochkind | kcoyle++ true [10:54:19] edsu | livestream lightning talks is going to be good, i think [10:54:21] gsf | decasm++ [10:54:24] sesuncedu | http://community.livejournal.com/lolbrarians/14634.html [10:54:27] druthb | yitznewton: I concur; The problem is that when you have a sixty-year cataloger in the field who panics hearing the word "metadata"--not knowing that's what she's been *doing* for all these years--you have a whole 'nuther sort of problem. [10:54:29] jaf | i think dhillman's earlier point about testing what the data needs to be supporting is the most important point [10:54:31] bmljenny | A lot of legacy data just needs to go away. [10:54:35] * royt plants a bomb to blow up the damage that is ISBD [10:54:35] BillDueber | ecorrado: agreed. Parsing MARC is a solved problem. Restricting the data to a two-level kv store is the problem. [10:54:36] akorphan | If we can come up with a non-serial data format, we don't need field delimiter. [10:54:36] druthb | ....and there are *lots* of such beings out there. [10:54:36] paulalbert | @mbklein :) [10:54:36] akorphan | s [10:54:37] zoia | paulalbert: Not now, I'm building Skynet. [10:54:40] ---| <<-- grk2me [~rooms@156-56-58-137.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Rooms • iPhone IRC Client • http://www.roomsapp.mobi) [10:54:43] sesuncedu | http://community.livejournal.com/lolbrarians/15196.html [10:54:44] rsinger | ecorrado: you mean "marc" or the "shit shoved in a marc record"? [10:54:44] akorphan | Oh wait,w e have one of those. [10:54:46] BillDueber | ecorrado: s/the problem/a part of the problem/ [10:54:47] sekjal | MARC is just a view... a very complex, obnoxious view. [10:54:47] eefcee | the early error was including ISBD in MARC, that made it very hard to treat MARC as data because it was also encumbered with formatting, essentially. Icky. [10:54:48] alxp | when she says 'naomi' does she mean ndushay ? [10:54:51] dchud | most of us are already doing it too. [10:54:52] jrochkind | charper: nah, you did fine too, we were just typing at the same time [10:54:53] mcdonald | We have a couple more slots for lightning talks today [10:54:53] scolford | zoia++ [10:54:57] alxp | \half paying attention [10:54:58] druthb | sekjal++ [10:54:59] dlovins | Anyone here from Open Library? Haven't you solved some of this already (e.g., data statements vs. records) [10:54:59] jaf | otherwise it's just data description for data description's sake, regardless of standard or vocabulary [10:55:03] atz_ | XC has starting something!? [10:55:06] timmcgeary | Will there be bottled water around at the break? [10:55:06] decasm_ | parsing iso2709 is cake. MARC is horrible. [10:55:09] anarchivist | provenance++ [10:55:09] royt | punctuation doesn't equate to granularity [10:55:14] ---| ---> yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has joined #code4lib [10:55:15] gsf | alxp: yes [10:55:19] sesuncedu | provenance++ [10:55:21] alxp | nice [10:55:22] jrochkind | timmcgeary: more importantly, will there be non-decaf coffee? [10:55:25] ndushay | i think what we discovered is that remediating metadata, even computationally, is perhaps non-scalable. [10:55:26] alxp | ndushay++ [10:55:26] sesuncedu | EAD not so much [10:55:31] yitznewton | druthb: well, it's going to be a gradual process in any case, so the luddites will have time to rotate & retire out as the new are initiated in the future.. (boy that was vague) [10:55:35] ndushay | thanks alxp [10:55:37] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:55:43] jeff | marcxml that doesn't break pymarc... but run through MARC::File::XML and output as MARC21 it breaks pymarc. [10:55:45] dchud | s/statements/links/ imho [10:55:45] kcoyle | @dlovins: OL uses key/value pairs, but it works much like RDF [10:55:46] dlovins | touche, ndushay [10:55:46] sesuncedu | ndushay: It's a lot more doable than is done [10:55:47] zoia | kcoyle: hold still plz trying to verify ur checksum [10:55:49] pberry | Never trust user data [10:55:49] jrochkind | ndushay: remediating legacy? yeah. But can we stop spending expensive human cataloger hours on creating additional useless metadata? please? [10:55:49] pmurray | This slide is spot on! [10:55:50] timmcgeary | jrochkind: I could use water before my talk, but hope you can find caffeine [10:56:02] mbklein | @quote add i think what we discovered is that remediating metadata, even computationally, is perhaps non-scalable. [10:56:02] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Quote #2509 added. [10:56:02] scolford | dchud++ [10:56:03] atz_ | less centralized distro/data-share is certainly wortwhile [10:56:13] pberry | Lest little Bobby tables starts submitting records [10:56:15] dlovins | kcoyle: thanks. [10:56:16] ndushay | the wild inconsistencies make this very hard [10:56:17] ecorrado | rsinger: i sees issues with AACR2 (like punctuation) [10:56:23] sesuncedu | OL is triple-storeish at the bottom [10:56:26] ---| <<-- mlevy_ [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:56:27] dchud | little Bobby tables++ [10:56:32] jaf | add one additional challenge: demonstrate that description enhances disxcovery, or other needed services [10:56:35] druthb | yitznewton: yep. Working for An Evil Vendor, though, I know good and well how much influence those old coots--even *after* retirement--have on purchasing and implementing decisions. [10:56:36] rsinger | sesuncedu: more document store-ish [10:56:40] alxp | the squeezed aspect ratio of the screen makes the font in her slides look really interesting [10:56:43] dlovins | So why aren't we talking more about OL as a model to follow? [10:56:50] charper | dchud: statements are in a way relationships, ergo links, right? [10:56:52] dchud | i call photoshop [10:56:52] ndushay | my life in the NSDL can be summed up: "metadata is dead! long live metadata!" [10:56:54] akorphan | aww... [10:57:02] BillDueber | Wait, are we the dog or the cat? [10:57:02] jaf | wait, who are the cats and who are the dogs? :) [10:57:04] freqlurker | programmers are the dog [10:57:05] ndushay | can't we all just get along? [10:57:06] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [10:57:06] pberry | Cats and dogs living together...MASS HYSTERIA [10:57:07] jaf | jinx! [10:57:08] * ecorrado not sure he agres the cost of no chane os more then the cost of change in this case [10:57:09] druthb | BillDueber: yes. [10:57:11] timmcgeary | OLE is going to be document store-ish [10:57:13] dlovins | kittens++ [10:57:16] akorphan | OLE! [10:57:16] ejk | dawww [10:57:18] sesuncedu | the cats are the vampires [10:57:18] morgan8 | All the keyboard clicks in here sound like rain. [10:57:20] dchud | charper: i meant the web specifically, so if you're down with that, yeah, then :) [10:57:26] jrochkind | dchud: it's all you! [10:57:26] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [10:57:38] ndushay | we need to work in ONE silo!!!! [10:57:39] yitznewton | druthb: i hear it. i think the grass-roots nature of c4l is a good counter to that effect from the other direction.. worlds take a while to move in the end [10:57:42] sesuncedu | I want a silo [10:57:42] akorphan | Keyboard rain / Some stay dry but others feel the pain [10:57:43] gsf | sekjal: agreed MARC is one view of the data, at one time useful for transmission between systems [10:57:45] kcoyle | OL isn't perfect, but it can be played with - OSS [10:57:48] anarchivist | ndushay: there is no silo [10:57:48] mbklein | @dunno add DELETE FROM whatever_you_said WHERE point = FALSE; [10:57:49] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1119 added. [10:57:52] royt | dchud: she's talking cat+code [10:57:54] atz_ | ndushay: One Silo, One Bucket [10:57:58] akorphan | Do we need a silo or a bucket? [10:57:58] jrochkind | ndushay: can i not work in a silo please? [10:58:01] BillDueber | Cue the "wakka-chicka" music [10:58:01] MrDys- | that's a fat cat [10:58:01] escowles | code-and-data4lib [10:58:02] mbklein | @dunno remove 1119 [10:58:02] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [10:58:04] kcoyle | the universe is the silo [10:58:05] scolford | mbklein++ [10:58:09] mbklein | @dunno add DELETE FROM whatever_you_said WHERE point IS NULL; [10:58:09] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1120 added. [10:58:10] dlovins | metadata4lib++ [10:58:12] paulalbert | "Let's do more than get along" == my favorite pick up line [10:58:15] fyodor | enough inter-species relations [10:58:15] ejk | silo4lib [10:58:15] ---| <<-- librarywebchic [9c383aad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.173] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:58:15] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ecorrado) [10:58:19] gsf | kcoyle: is OL still on top of thingDB? [10:58:22] sesuncedu | royt: My cat is moar into hardware [10:58:24] jaf | dhillman++ [10:58:24] edsu | yay, questions! [10:58:24] rsinger | @band add Silo and Bucket [10:58:25] zoia | rsinger: Band 'Silo and Bucket' added to list [10:58:26] ndushay | that's ecorrado_, yes? [10:58:27] MrDys- | mic crew represent [10:58:31] codemart | so im supposed to have sex with a cataloger??? [10:58:32] yitznewton | people_with_microphones++ [10:58:34] charper | code4data, AKA code_cat_bucket [10:58:35] mbklein | fyodor: Yeah, I didn't know this was one of *those* conferences. [10:58:35] sekjal | 8% battery remaining.... [10:58:37] kcoyle | @gsf more or less. there have been some changes [10:58:37] pberry | No [10:58:38] zoia | kcoyle: Dudes! Did You See the Library They've Got Here? http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2008/9/29yoder.html [10:58:39] druthb | yitznewton: yep. the symbiotic relationshp between vendors and FOSS communities--as they develop--will show us the good and bad examples to follow for all this stuff. [10:58:39] decasm_ | 15 dollars to change [10:58:47] timmcgeary | codemart: no - just snuggle [10:58:49] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:58:49] knickum | yeah, 15% battery remaining cmon! [10:58:49] royt | hey, that's Ed! [10:58:50] dchud | http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/RDAtest/rdatestrecords.html <-- the RDA test data. GO FOR IT. [10:58:50] yitznewton | men_without_hats++ [10:58:56] jrochkind | codemart: only if you're lucky [10:58:57] edsu | how much are they paying now? [10:58:58] druthb | yitznewton: The current vendor-knows-best model sucks rocks. [10:59:01] mbklein | Still at 59%. brand_new_macbook_pro++ [10:59:08] BillDueber | One...MILLLION dollars! [10:59:09] * royt prepares to clap vigorously [10:59:11] dbs | druthb: like between Equinox and Evergreen? or between ByWater Solutions and Catalyst and Koha? [10:59:11] timmcgeary | spooning4lib [10:59:12] * fumi needs power [10:59:12] decasm_ | 64% linux++ [10:59:17] pberry | 83% iPad ftw [10:59:22] akorphan | 100% outlet++ [10:59:30] BillDueber | outlet+ [10:59:31] davidWalker | akorphan++ [10:59:31] fyodor | I really like D.Hillman, but her starry-eyed vendor-worship dries me nuts [10:59:39] asnagy | brand new battery in my macbook pro (0:01) remaining - apple_battery-- [10:59:44] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-17.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:59:45] decasm_ | @ana dries me nuts [10:59:46] zoia | decasm_: Mere nudists [10:59:49] ejk | 100% Desktop + Live Stream [10:59:53] decasm_ | zoia++ [10:59:54] BillDueber | fyodor: A robust vendor market would be a huge, huge win. [10:59:55] ---| ---> akohler [a4439833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.67.152.51] has joined #code4lib [10:59:57] timmcgeary | decasm_++ [11:00:00] druthb | dbs: Those are decent examples, IMO. (and I work for ByWater, in the interest of disclosure). LibLime and PTFS with Koha are, IMO, examples of things that can go horribly wrong. [11:00:03] jrochkind | fyodor: i don't get that at all, she's no fan of our vendors. [11:00:05] davidWalker | live_stream++ [11:00:06] freqlurker | contentdm-- [11:00:08] rsinger | 100% desktop + back channel [11:00:08] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: asnagy) [11:00:09] mbklein | We as a community need to devote more resources to our lolgsf collection. [11:00:13] sesuncedu | stream... Keurig downstairs, 100% power, and single malts in easy access [11:00:14] anarchivist | http://malcolmgladwellbookgenerator.com/ [11:00:14] sibylschaefer | contentdm -- [11:00:17] ejk | live_stream++ [11:00:17] edsu | dchud: but, but that's MARC :-) [11:00:19] eefcee | live_stream++ [11:00:25] timmcgeary | BoyScouts4Lib [11:00:25] akorphan | So here's the thing. When vendors feel threatened, they like to sue (grounded or not). Witness that OCLC suit kerfuffle. [11:00:26] yitznewton | live_stream++ [11:00:27] pberry | I start working with contentdm when i get back [11:00:28] ---| <--- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has left #code4lib () [11:00:34] yitznewton | contentdm-- [11:00:36] pberry | Hooray... [11:00:36] ---| <<-- kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: kestlund) [11:00:36] sesuncedu | There's training here in McLean for getting information out of people in old-folks comes [11:00:38] dan64 | contentdm-- [11:00:39] sesuncedu | DiscontentDM [11:00:44] dbs | druthb: shh, let us not utter those names [11:00:46] yitznewton | sesuncedu++ [11:00:46] sesuncedu | KMFContentDM [11:00:47] pberry | You guys are killing me [11:00:48] gsf | sesuncedu++ [11:00:51] jrochkind | sesuncedu: that's kinda awesome [11:00:55] mbklein | anarchivist++ That's awesome. [11:00:56] BillDueber | Powering down... [11:00:58] pberry | sesuncedu++ [11:01:00] fyodor | jrochkind: everytime I hear her talk to catalogers she says "talk to your vendors - tell them what you need" why not tell them to talk to their programmers? or the open-source community [11:01:07] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [11:01:08] druthb | dbs: ;-) [11:01:21] freqlurker | who says that the vendors listen? [11:01:21] pberry | KMFDM jokes ftw [11:01:26] gsf | fyodor: well she seems to be saying that now -- at least the talk to programmers part [11:01:41] kcoyle | fyodor: there's this concept that libraries all have to make change in lock-step. we need to change that [11:01:44] ejk | @cyborg KMFDM [11:01:45] akorphan | When you code with OPEN SOURCE, you code with SOCIALISM! [11:01:45] zoia | ejk: K.M.F.D.M.: Kinetic Mechanical Forbidden Destruction Machine [11:01:46] charper | fyodor: vendords have so much clout in this. Her point is they're the biggest roadblock to changing this right now because we have so much vested in them. [11:01:49] pberry | Ha [11:01:52] fyodor | gsf: I know, I'm happy she's here [11:01:52] timmcgeary | troublemakers++ [11:01:57] ---| ---> danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:01:59] ---| ---> hcayless [~hcayless@99-173-133-217.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code4lib [11:02:00] yitznewton | kcoyle++ [11:02:07] ---| <--- jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [11:02:08] akorphan | TRADITION! [11:02:10] lbjay | /join #trouble [11:02:16] codemart | questioning = troublemaking? [11:02:18] decasm_ | gluejar++ representin' the peanut gallery [11:02:18] edsu | seems to me the small libraries could benefit by being able to do original cataloging, that isn't just getting data from a vendor and not understanding it at all [11:02:22] royt | sweet, a room shot! [11:02:29] ejk | Room shot! Hi everybody! [11:02:30] yitznewton | @karma iii [11:02:31] zoia | yitznewton: Karma for "iii" has been increased 3 times and decreased 130 times for a total karma of -127. [11:02:31] royt | wave to me, folks [11:02:32] pberry | We've always done it this way [11:02:39] edsu | but the bar to doing original cataloging is too high [11:02:39] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:02:39] sesuncedu | royt: better than a money shot [11:02:44] mbklein | MalcontentDM <-- Best place to store submissions from tenured faculty [11:02:47] royt | sesuncedu: heh [11:02:48] druthb | edsu++ [11:02:52] timmcgeary | shoot - missed my "Hi Mom" chance [11:02:53] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: MrDys-) [11:02:54] sekjal | and that's the end of my battery [11:02:55] sesuncedu | @Who increased iii karma [11:02:56] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:02:56] zoia | jaf increased iii karma. [11:02:59] ---| <<-- sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: sekjal) [11:03:03] jaf | say what? [11:03:04] mbklein | @whocares iii [11:03:06] royt | jaf-- [11:03:06] zoia | mbklein, robcaSSon, eby, sesuncedu, anarchivist and davidWalker hate iii [11:03:08] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:03:13] mbklein | @wholoves iii [11:03:15] zoia | mbklein: I can't find anyone who loves iii. [11:03:16] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:03:19] ---| <--- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:03:20] sesuncedu | zoia++ [11:03:21] akorphan | zoia++ [11:03:22] kcoyle | we spend huge amounts on cataloging, and have no way to measure if it works [11:03:23] eby | edsu: Not too high. I think half our time is deleting shit from copy cataloging [11:03:25] royt | jaf++ # sorry, that was uncalled for [11:03:26] scolford | zoia++ [11:03:29] kcoyle | if it helps users find anything [11:03:34] edsu | eby: :-) [11:03:34] ---| ---> cappadona [~cappadona@156-56-58-189.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:03:34] sesuncedu | kcoyle: yes we do. It doesn't. [11:03:39] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:03:43] gsf | edsu: totally agreed, especially for collections with a good portion of less common items [11:03:50] ---| <<-- dbs [~dbs@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:03:53] edsu | sometimes i worry that linkeddata is raising the bar too high as well :-} [11:03:58] mbklein | @caresabout marc [11:04:00] druthb | edsu: that is *huge* for me. If small libraries can be given a batch of really decent tools for doing this the new way, cheap and easy, they will, in time, start to, and it'll grow very organically and collaboratively. [11:04:00] zoia | mbklein: marc doesn't seem to care about anything. [11:04:00] anarchivist | @ana gi ay ay blues [11:04:01] zoia | anarchivist: I abuse gayly [11:04:04] mbklein | @whocares marc [11:04:06] zoia | mbklein, robcaSSon, dbs and rob_desk hate marc [11:04:09] charper | edsu++ //couldn't agree more [11:04:16] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:04:18] anarchivist | @love marc [11:04:19] anna3lc | catalogers become data curators [11:04:20] kcoyle | small libraries can take their data from Amazon [11:04:20] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. anarchivist loves marc. [11:04:21] royt | that's why OCLC is going upstream to collect the data from the publishers - why should we start from scratch? [11:04:21] ---| <<-- mackeral [~androirc@184-203-250-49.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit (Quit: AndroIRC) [11:04:22] akorphan | OK, here's a question: should the same people who take the data OUT of the resource be the same people who put it IN the computerized data structure? (This may be a stupid question but I thought it was worth asking) [11:04:24] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:04:24] jaf | it seems that as libraries focus more on their special collections, there is an opportunity to look at archival practices in conjunction with library descriptive practices and see if catalogers might shift over to those collections [11:04:29] kcoyle | it's free, it's up to date [11:04:30] BigD | Little dog or big cat? [11:04:38] timmcgeary | warm_and_fuzzy++ [11:04:39] edsu | druthb: yes, that's what i meant to say [11:04:45] ---| <<-- petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:04:46] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:04:50] jaron | jaf: yes. [11:04:57] pberry | She was against it before she was for it! [11:04:58] * edsu wishes questioners who would say who they are for those of us following on at home [11:04:58] sesuncedu | anna3lc: digital curators become catalogers. [11:05:12] ---| ---> jim_ [9c383b30@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.48] has joined #code4lib [11:05:14] edsu | "It was before they started paying me to work on it." [11:05:17] mbklein | "Berating things to make them better": AKA BigD's management style [11:05:18] edsu | edsu-- [11:05:18] gregjansen | jaf++ [11:05:19] ---| <<-- mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:05:20] helrond | jaf: is already happening... [11:05:24] mbklein | edsu++ [11:05:26] druthb | edsu++ [11:05:28] sesuncedu | No surrender, No surrender, no surrender to the RDA [11:05:30] ---| ---> MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [11:05:42] anarchivist | archival descriptive practices are fucking garbage [11:05:44] ---| <<-- caroldotou [9c383b2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.45] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:05:46] freqlurker | @sing my mind ain't so open by magazine [11:05:46] anna3lc | sesuncedu: that won't be seen as a deal-breaking demotion? [11:05:48] zoia | freqlurker: No songs found by my mind ain't so open by magazine [11:05:50] akorphan | open the door, get on the floor, everybody walk the dinosaur [11:05:51] gsf | kcoyle: could OL ever become an open union catalog for small libraries? [11:05:53] jaron | anarchivist++ [11:05:54] * dchud already got a response. asking if there are additional caveats, if feedback would be helpful, etc. lots of people got cc'd. will update. [11:05:56] ---| ---> dbs [~dbs@69-196-169-45.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #code4lib [11:05:56] ---| <<-- dbs [~dbs@69-196-169-45.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit (Changing host) [11:05:56] ---| ---> dbs [~dbs@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [11:05:56] yitznewton | crazy_stuff++ [11:05:58] royt | i think RDA is still broken [11:06:02] timmcgeary | dhillman kicking ass first, asking questions second [11:06:04] mjg_ | ain't we supposed to be in Alumni Hall? [11:06:13] royt | but it's too late, ALA needs to make their money on it [11:06:14] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: fumi) [11:06:14] charper | anarchivist: is there any possibility for them to become less disgusting? [11:06:14] akorphan | mjg_: after the break [11:06:17] bmljenny | Would the results of the collaboration we're looking at be pittens or kuppies? [11:06:18] ---| ---> mike [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [11:06:18] timmcgeary | mjg_: after this [11:06:18] kcoyle | @gsf OL doesn't recognize things like holdings -- some changes would be needed [11:06:19] mbklein | @quote add archival descriptive practices are fucking garbage [11:06:19] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Quote #2510 added. [11:06:20] zoia | kcoyle: Malkovich malkovich Malkovich malkovich malkovich malkovich Malkovich malkovich [11:06:21] BigD | Ha, mjg_ just got up [11:06:21] sesuncedu | anarchivist: A Dog ate my DACS [11:06:27] mjg_ | BigD: totally. :) [11:06:29] anarchivist | charper: convince my better half that i should do a ph.d. :) [11:06:39] gregjansen | s/archival descriptive practices/archivists/ [11:06:43] ---| User: *** mike is now known as Guest87362 [11:06:45] ---| ---> ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:06:47] anarchivist | gregjansen-- [11:06:47] helrond | charper: only if anarchivist stops being so lazy [11:06:49] charper | anarchivist: things like EAC are an improvement, right? [11:06:50] mjg_ | we must be running late, then. glad things are as they always are. :) [11:06:54] sesuncedu | anarchivist: run away [11:06:54] yitznewton | gregjansen-- [11:07:00] gregjansen | heh [11:07:00] edsu | who is asking the questions? [11:07:00] yitznewton | let's get ready to rumble [11:07:01] anarchivist | charper: yeah, we should talk about EAC [11:07:02] BigD | anarchivist: Convince me you have a better half [11:07:03] sesuncedu | gregjansen: I know where you live [11:07:06] mbklein | Do we need ecorrado manning the gong? [11:07:15] akorphan | anarchivist: do you have an evil twin named catarchivist? [11:07:19] edsu | &gong; [11:07:21] helrond | BigD: wait, haven't you met me? [11:07:27] royt | akorphan++ [11:07:43] * ecorrado still wonders if we don't know the cost of change, we can't say the cost of change is less then the cost of change [11:07:54] anarchivist | charper: it finally made sense to me recently about how it fits with an archival conception of the world [11:08:01] mbklein | @who can vouch for anarchivist's better half? [11:08:01] zoia | tzhaya can vouch for anarchivist's better half. [11:08:04] sesuncedu | 㢬 [11:08:14] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:08:30] scolford | ecorrado: I think it was just that we can't assume the reverse either argument for stasis or change. [11:08:32] mbklein | When do we find out who won Elsevier's pile o' cash? [11:08:35] edsu | livestream++ # sorry for repeating myself [11:08:46] timmcgeary | mbklein: come again? [11:08:53] akorphan | in related news, why isn't "analog" the opposite of "catalog"? [11:08:54] ecorrado | also, if we don't talk to smaller publics, maybe you can't say they don't want change, but you can't say they do either [11:09:02] lbjay | whoa. aren't we supposed to be sitting in the other hall in like 2 minutes? [11:09:03] ecorrado | and FWIW: I have talkd to smaller publics [11:09:06] scolford | s/reverse/cost of [11:09:07] pmurray | @karma livestream [11:09:07] zoia | pmurray: Karma for "livestream" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. [11:09:08] dlovins | We want our tools to be fully backward-compatible and fully open to the future at the same time. Impossible. [11:09:09] gluejar | mbklein: not till march [11:09:14] fyodor | akorphan: dogalog? [11:09:14] mbklein | gluejar: Ah OK [11:09:20] sesuncedu | tagalog [11:09:22] eefcee | @karma live_stream [11:09:22] ejk | @karma live_stream [11:09:22] zoia | eefcee: Karma for "live_stream" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. [11:09:24] zoia | ejk: Karma for "live_stream" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. [11:09:27] jaf | oops, elm was mistaken for royt! [11:09:28] sesuncedu | live_stream++ [11:09:29] edsu | who dat? [11:09:30] anarchivist | charper: although, the archival conception of the world i'm arguing from is a distinctly australian perspective [11:09:30] timmcgeary | emorgan with the last question [11:09:32] gsf | @damlev royt elm [11:09:32] royt | oops [11:09:32] sesuncedu | Compressors++ [11:09:32] zoia | gsf: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "royt" and "elm" is 4. [11:09:33] lbjay | fake roy [11:09:37] akorphan | ibahn-- [11:09:40] druthb | ecorrado: my job has me doing it all day long. Some are perfectly willing to change, others are more cautious about it, but if they had someone to help them a little, most would be willing to *try* new stuff. [11:09:41] charper | anarchivst: ok - I def. wanna hear about that. Are you going to Pitti's thing in the city next month? [11:09:42] akorphan | No moustache! [11:09:44] dchud | royt: elm is posing as you. [11:09:45] royt | elm: my evil twin [11:09:45] MrDys- | froy [11:09:56] ---| <<-- Guest87362 [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Client Quit) [11:09:58] akorphan | royt: I thought the evil twin always had hte facial hair... [11:09:59] mbklein | timmcgeary: http://developer.sciverse.com/code4lib [11:10:01] sesuncedu | Pitti in the city - [11:10:03] edsu | "Pitti in the City" [11:10:08] royt | akorphan: we both do ;-) [11:10:10] ecorrado | change for change sake is not useful and i think that is what I see with RDA [11:10:11] jrochkind | ecorrado: my hypothesis (which I realize I am not providing proof for) whether or not libraries "want" change, they will literally cease to exist unless they change. [11:10:11] edsu | sesuncedu: jinx [11:10:12] jaf | elm + royt = elroy? [11:10:14] sesuncedu | edsu: shoes! [11:10:18] timmcgeary | jaf++ [11:10:23] * anarchivist wonders if he'll see dpitti next week in cville [11:10:26] ---| <<-- nyara [9c383a14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.20] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:10:37] jrochkind | ecorrado: that a bunch of libraries or library directors or librarians don't "want" change doens't mean libraries can survive like that. [11:10:41] ejk | @rate livestream live_stream [11:10:45] ecorrado | if RDA was really much better and the supporters could make a case on costs, I'd be much more on board [11:10:45] zoia | ejk: livestream: 5.7; live stream: 8.5. live stream rocks! [11:10:47] druthb | jrochkind++ [11:10:48] fresco | http://hubgit.github.com/2011/01/code4lib/ - video stream + programme; didn't get inline IRC working yet... [11:10:59] mbklein | ecorrado: That's what Gorman meant by "neophilia" [11:11:00] ---| ---> singlesoliloquy [~IceChat77@lib-dig7-128252066043.wulib.wustl.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:11:04] ---| ---> mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:11:09] ---| ---> cody__ [~cody@x-128-101-146-30.libstaff.umn.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:11:09] anarchivist | mbklein: i thought he said "necrophilia" [11:11:10] timmcgeary | signing off - gotta pack up to get my talk on the PC in the next room [11:11:11] edsu | fresco++ [11:11:12] gluejar | Here, "creative" is used to mean "destructive" [11:11:17] edsu | fresco: inline irc would be *awesome* [11:11:21] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [9c383aee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.238] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:11:24] jrochkind | mbklein: so what's what someone calls neophobia? [11:11:25] pberry | See y'all in alumni [11:11:26] sesuncedu | anarchivist: He is dead boring [11:11:28] * ecorrado is a naysayer [11:11:31] dlovins | necrophilia-- [11:11:33] jrochkind | ecorrado: but I agree that RDA isn't all that exciting. [11:11:34] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [11:11:36] fresco | edsu: had mibbit widget in there, but couldn't get it to connect [11:11:38] anarchivist | sesuncedu: get him drunk first [11:11:42] mbklein | jrochkind: AUTOCAT [11:11:50] ranti | who catalog the catalogers? [11:11:52] anarchivist | AUTOCAD++ [11:11:53] scolford | @karma michael_gorman [11:11:53] fresco | also, the programme table is a bit broken (cos of YQL -> JSON) [11:11:54] zoia | scolford: michael_gorman has neutral karma. [11:11:54] jrochkind | ecorrado: it's not that RDA is some kind of magic bullet. RDA sucks. AND we desperately need change in metadata control practices if we are to survive. [11:11:54] jaf | i wanted elm + royt = kilroy, but I just couldn't map it. Maybe RDA would have helped [11:11:57] ---| ---> truk77 [~knordstro@129.120.93.76] has joined #code4lib [11:11:57] dchud | more background on RDA test records: http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/RDAtest/rdatest.html [11:12:00] sesuncedu | ranti: NACO [11:12:09] mjg_ | @urbandict rda [11:12:10] zoia | mjg_: rda: Richard Dean Anderson [example] Best known for MacGyver and Colonel Jack O'Neill. [/example] ; Recommended Daily Allowance. Term used to explain the amount recommended on a daily basis for vitamins and other dietary supplements. [example] Look on the side of any food product at the nutritional information, and somewhere in the little box should be the "RDA" on any of the recommended percentages of vitamins, minerals (2 more messages) [11:12:13] csharp | fresco: nice [11:12:16] mbklein | @decide michael gorman or jon gorman [11:12:16] zoia | mbklein: go with jon gorman [11:12:21] anna3lc | coders can't spell [11:12:21] mbklein | jtgorman++ [11:12:24] edsu | dchud: does RDA in MARC make sense to you? [11:12:25] anarchivist | jtgorman++ [11:12:25] jaf | @sing styx : mr. roboto [11:12:26] zoia | (Dennis DeYoung) / Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, / Mata ah-oo hima de [11:12:28] ranti | sesuncedu++ [11:12:31] mbklein | anna3lc: spelers can't code [11:12:37] atz_ | funky data skillz [11:12:39] pmurray | anna3lc: Yeah, but our syntax is impeccable. [11:12:40] dchud | edsu: i don't know, i haven't tried it. [11:12:44] ---| <<-- jim_ [9c383b30@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.48] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:12:45] ---| <<-- MrDys- [~irchon@mobile-166-137-141-172.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: MrDys-) [11:12:45] lbjay | *clap* [11:12:46] * ejk claps [11:12:47] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: rjhoyle) [11:12:48] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-qfmzodacxruljnpd] has quit (Quit: skoczko) [11:12:48] ---| <--- gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:12:48] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dlBarth) [11:12:49] ---| <--- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:12:50] jrochkind | ecorrado: but the part of RDA that Diane is talking about, very specfiically the vocabularies she and karen et all have worked on, are a decent attempt. Remember diane very specifially, although somewhat confusingly, said she's not talking about the 'guidance' as being something interesting [11:12:50] ---| <<-- sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: sibylschaefer) [11:12:50] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cbeer_) [11:12:50] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:12:50] ---| <<-- ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:12:50] ecorrado | jrochkind: but change to a system that may be just incrementally better is not useful [11:12:51] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:12:51] ---| <<-- dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dan64) [11:12:51] royt | what's with the 20 minute unscheduled time blocks? 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[11:13:28] csharp | ejk: thanks [11:13:29] yitznewton | zoia++ [11:13:38] csharp | livestreaming++ [11:13:40] royt | ejk: thanks, but now I'm using what fresco set up [11:13:41] yitznewton | oop_80s_music++ [11:13:45] ---| <<-- jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jaf) [11:13:46] rsinger | edsu: do you think it matters much whether it's in MARC or RDF? [11:13:53] ---| <<-- singlesoliloquy [~IceChat77@lib-dig7-128252066043.wulib.wustl.edu] has quit (Quit: Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?) 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[11:15:03] ejk | Don't cross the streams, and if someone asks you if you are a god, you say "YES" [11:15:10] ---| ---> tlepczyk [IceChat77@lib-dig7-128252066043.wulib.wustl.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:15:20] sesuncedu | rsinger: If it's in RDF, you don't have to worry about broken MARC. Just broken RDF [11:15:23] ---| <<-- mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:15:25] edsu | rsinger: i think it matters if you are saying (as dhillman just did) MARC Must Die, what it is that is going to replace it [11:15:30] sesuncedu | @who is the gatekeeper [11:15:30] zoia | rob_away is the gatekeeper. [11:15:32] edsu | rsinger: or what set of things [11:15:33] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-mmyuelcjhwgdevig] has quit (Client Quit) [11:15:39] ---| <<-- spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [11:15:44] ---| <<-- dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:15:44] ---| <<-- willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:15:44] ---| <<-- fyodor [8cb6f8ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.171] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:15:55] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:16:04] ---| ---> danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:16:07] rsinger | edsu: it's one of the things that came up recently on the LLD list [11:16:08] ---| <<-- masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:16:08] ---| <<-- abarrera [~abarrera@206.sub-75-205-137.myvzw.com] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:16:08] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:16:09] ---| <<-- joyce_ [8cb6f960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.96] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:16:09] ---| <<-- jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:16:16] edsu | rsinger: really? [11:16:22] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:16:26] edsu | rsinger: i guess i should tune into that more [11:16:31] ---| <<-- bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:16:34] ---| <<-- tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:16:34] ---| <<-- zjchatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:16:36] edsu | rsinger: link? [11:16:42] rsinger | edsu: yeah, the notion of how do we reconcile the "completeness" of a "record" in a linked data landscape [11:16:44] ---| <<-- reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:16:44] ---| <<-- Mounts [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:16:48] ---| ---> rjw [~rjw@62.242.28.61] has joined #code4lib [11:16:51] mjg_ | so, what'd I miss this AM? 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[11:21:00] ---| User: *** Tokee is now known as tokee [11:21:00] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:21:01] rsinger | :) [11:21:04] ---| <--- chickmarkley [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:21:06] ---| User: *** tokee is now known as tokeee [11:21:09] ---| ---> chickmarkley [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:21:11] rsinger | edsu: but what's the difference between a graph and a record? [11:21:12] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:21:16] ---| <<-- danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:21:20] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:21:22] sesuncedu | Also: two nights ago, the cat wanted something, which disturbed the dog, who woke the other half, who made me deal with it. I am the cheese [11:21:24] dbs | rsinger, [11:21:34] ---| <<-- codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:21:35] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:21:38] dbs | rsinger: how much of the cheese is homecheese, and how much is storebought? 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[11:22:10] yitznewton | @herald [11:22:10] zoia | yitznewton: Did you just tell me to go fuck myself? [11:22:10] edsu | sesuncedu: i think i am :-) [11:22:15] yitznewton | @herald help [11:22:16] zoia | yitznewton: fork it? [11:22:19] yitznewton | @herald --help [11:22:19] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:22:19] zoia | yitznewton: Hey! This is the internet. Speak english, please. [11:22:25] yitznewton | @help herald [11:22:25] zoia | yitznewton: Error: There is no command "herald". [11:22:28] ---| <--- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-hbqudomzjampqvto] has left #code4lib () [11:22:30] yitznewton | sigh [11:22:30] edsu | rsinger: yeah, but it matters if you want to make sense [11:22:31] ---| ---> cwlown [~cwlown@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:22:40] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:22:41] ejk | @karma [11:22:41] rsinger | edsu: i don't think it matters how you serialize it, as long as the discrete parts are identifiable [11:22:41] zoia | ejk: Highest karma: "mbklein" (406), "edsu" (378), and "anarchivist" (369). Lowest karma: "iii" (-127), "central_IT" (-31), and "php" (-17). You (ejk) are ranked 364 out of 2814. [11:22:42] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-hbqudomzjampqvto] has joined #code4lib [11:22:43] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:22:44] sesuncedu | edsu: it's the Marc Off process. 12 steps [11:22:48] MrDys | protip: twitterfall.com, add in a search for #c41ll and watch the realtime tweet deluuuuuuge [11:22:50] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [11:22:52] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:22:53] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [11:22:53] ---| ---> bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has joined #code4lib [11:22:56] ---| ---> romana [8cb6f8ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.171] has joined #code4lib [11:23:07] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [11:23:08] edsu | rsinger: i guess that's what kcoyle was sayin' that there would be lots of ways of saying the same thing [11:23:12] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:19] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [11:23:20] ---| ---> JZChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [11:23:20] * rsinger nods. [11:23:20] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [11:23:20] yitznewton | @help [11:23:21] zoia | yitznewton: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [11:23:25] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:25] royt | first, acknowledge you have a problem [11:23:26] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:26] sesuncedu | edsu: the issue is knowing what's the same thing [11:23:27] ---| ---> fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:27] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has quit (Client Quit) [11:23:29] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:32] edsu | rsinger: and perhaps there already are, and we don't have to worry about it much :-) [11:23:40] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:53] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:54] edsu | sesuncedu: yeah [11:23:54] ejk | Test test test [11:23:58] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:58] zoia | I saw Lon Cheney Jr. walking down the street [11:24:13] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:24:16] sesuncedu | timers down front, party on the stream [11:24:21] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@2001:18e8:2:9:223:32ff:fea0:cf9c] has joined #code4lib [11:24:26] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [11:24:27] * ejk waves [11:24:28] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:24:35] jaf | big woot! [11:24:36] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:24:37] eefcee | live stream picture just the slide... no video... [11:24:41] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:24:41] ryscher | how many people are streaming? [11:24:43] sesuncedu | lair [11:24:43] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [11:24:43] zoia | Shh! Daft largesse [11:24:44] eefcee | ah, better! [11:24:45] sesuncedu | liar [11:24:58] sesuncedu | it means world peace [11:24:59] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [11:25:06] ---| ---> akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has joined #code4lib [11:25:07] pberry | In the immortal words of bud lite commercials: here we go [11:25:12] eefcee | live_stream++ [11:25:13] ---| ---> asl2 [~asl2@adsl-75-3-66-69.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code4lib [11:25:18] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:25:20] ---| <<-- Mounts [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:25:26] ---| <<-- Guest452 [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:25:28] ---| ---> sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:25:29] ejk | live_stream++ [11:25:34] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@156-56-59-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:25:34] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:25:36] rsinger | edsu: i guess i'm more worried about some necessity to have mountains of data in order to do anything useful [11:25:39] ---| ---> ccurry1 [~ccurry@156.56.58.39] has joined #code4lib [11:25:39] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:25:40] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:25:42] ---| ---> dlBarth_ [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:25:48] * JodiS checks the stream [11:25:52] akorphan | I'm tired, I don't know if I want to mash up anymore. [11:25:56] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:25:57] druthb | Someone at the power plant is wondering *why*, all of a sudden, demand for electricity just went way, way up in Bloomington... [11:25:58] rsinger | edsu: data that can be locked behind some paywall [11:25:59] sesuncedu | neophiles like live_stream++ . Gorman, M. likes dead streams [11:25:59] royt | so is http://hubgit.github.com/2011/01/code4lib/ not happening? [11:26:01] anarchivist | @quote random [11:26:01] pberry | Live demos...yikes [11:26:01] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1857: "< dbs> Everyone knows there are only 1172 items of interest in the world" (added by edsu at 02:49 PM, April 21, 2009) [11:26:04] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [11:26:09] BigD | They need to turn the balance knob [11:26:12] ndushay | texas? [11:26:14] atz | highwire gmaps [11:26:20] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:26:28] ---| ---> demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has joined #code4lib [11:26:31] sesuncedu | Problem, we have a houston. [11:26:32] ---| ---> jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:26:32] zoia | find / -name 'jrochkind' -exec chmod 0000 '{}' \; [11:26:37] ---| ---> cappadona [~cappadona@156-56-59-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:26:39] jrochkind | that map one is pretty cool [11:26:40] ---| ---> julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [11:26:41] JodiS | secsuncedu++ [11:26:45] ---| ---> escowles [~escowles@mobile-166-137-140-229.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [11:26:46] atz | no argument there. map trumps text. [11:26:48] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:26:49] JodiS | QR_codes++ [11:26:50] ---| ---> gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:26:52] ---| ---> petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:26:58] akorphan | quick! take a picture! [11:26:59] ---| <<-- bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:26:59] ---| <<-- willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:27:00] ---| ---> dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:27:07] ---| ---> jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:27:08] BigD | Hey JodiS! [11:27:13] ---| ---> MrDys- [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:27:13] sesuncedu | Is it the rick roll QR? [11:27:15] JodiS | hey BigD! [11:27:18] druthb | sirsi_dynix_symphony_URLs-- [11:27:19] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [11:27:22] escowles | getting_past_the_record++ [11:27:31] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [11:27:32] ---| ---> sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:27:39] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:27:45] JodiS | SIMILE [11:27:49] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:27:51] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@mobile-166-137-142-113.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [11:27:53] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:27:54] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:27:55] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:27:59] BillDueber | held by the author? I'd love to know what Michael Chabon is reading [11:28:03] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:28:05] atz | definitely ugly unicorn/symphony URLs [11:28:05] akorphan | What's a simile timeline? [11:28:07] sesuncedu | It's not threatening SIMILE with a law suit? 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[11:28:30] ---| ---> fontanka [~fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:31] ---| <<-- tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:28:33] jrochkind | @google simile timeline [11:28:34] ---| <<-- masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:28:34] ---| ---> pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:34] zoia | jrochkind: SIMILE Widgets | Timeline: ; Reference Documentation for Timeline - SIMILE Widgets: ; simile-widgets - Project Hosting on Google Code: ; Timeline - simile-widgets - Timeline documentation index page ...: ; SIMILE | Timeline | (1 more message) [11:28:37] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:28:39] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:39] ---| ---> asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:41] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:42] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:42] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris_bee@198.147.175.203] has quit (Disconnected by services) [11:28:42] ---| User: *** cbeer__ is now known as cbeer [11:28:42] mbklein | Anyone else having trouble getting the Code4lib-N network to give you an IP address? [11:28:43] jrochkind | that's what a simile timeline is [11:28:45] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:28:46] ---| ---> gluejar_ [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:46] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:50] jrochkind | mbklein: yes, switched to G, no problem. [11:28:50] BillDueber | mbklein: Nope. 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[11:29:22] tokeee | mbklein: I am having trouble discovering it, but when I did I got the address no problem [11:29:24] eby | mbklein: Was doing that yesterday depending on room [11:29:27] ---| <<-- petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:29:29] ---| <<-- JZChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:29:29] ---| <<-- mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:29:30] ---| ---> vphill [~vphill@156-56-58-144.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:29:30] ---| <<-- pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:29:32] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:29:32] BillDueber | 008dates-- [11:29:34] ---| ---> cbeer__ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:29:34] sesuncedu | This is what it looks like when doves cry [11:29:34] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:29:34] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [11:29:34] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [11:29:36] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:29:42] ---| ---> rickj1 [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:29:44] ---| <<-- ccurry1 [~ccurry@156.56.58.39] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:29:47] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:29:47] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [11:29:47] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@conference/code4lib/x-heyyokwacvgmtcxm] has quit (Disconnected by services) [11:29:48] ---| User: *** cbeer__ is now known as cbeer [11:29:49] ---| ---> joyce__ [9c383b4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.74] has joined #code4lib [11:29:49] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:29:51] mbklein | sesuncedu: DAMN YOU. That's one of my earworm triggers. [11:29:52] sesuncedu | BillDueber: If I don't report in on schedule, 008 will show up to confuse you [11:29:53] BillDueber | "things get the wrong date" -- very politic, passive structure [11:29:54] ---| <<-- jbowen [8097bd5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.151.189.90] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:29:54] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:30:00] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:00] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [11:30:05] jrochkind | BillDueber: i do not diss 008 dates, they're buggy but if they didn't exist and all we had was the 260? forget it. [11:30:05] akorphan | INTO THE FUTURE [11:30:07] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:09] dlovins | simile++ [11:30:10] ---| ---> jlhardes [8cb69428@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.40] has joined #code4lib [11:30:11] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:30:13] ---| <<-- jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:30:14] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:17] ejk | scrollin [11:30:19] fumi | timeline++ [11:30:22] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:26] rsinger | edsu: anyway, i think we're agreeing :) [11:30:27] edsu | oh no, i thought library data was perfect! [11:30:28] erikhatcher | dlovins: simile++, but bad_data-- [11:30:30] ---| ---> jeanrri [9c383a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.92] has joined #code4lib [11:30:31] edsu | rsinger: yeah [11:30:32] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:33] BillDueber | akorphan: Time keeps on slipping slipping slipping [11:30:35] mbklein | BillDueber: If only data were willing to describe itself... [11:30:35] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:30:36] akorphan | edsu++ [11:30:39] ---| <--- anarchivist1 [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:30:44] ---| <<-- joyce_ [8cb6f960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.96] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:30:44] akorphan | BillDueber++ [11:30:46] sesuncedu | ... into the future. [11:30:47] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:49] ---| ---> willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [11:30:53] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [11:30:54] sesuncedu | ... damn earwormed back [11:30:54] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:58] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [11:30:58] anna3lc | data visualization tools as tools for catalogers to find and correct bad data [11:31:03] ---| ---> gregjansen1 [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:31:06] ---| <<-- cappadona [~cappadona@156-56-59-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [11:31:10] jrochkind | anna3lc++ [11:31:12] akorphan | You know, it's 2011 and Jupiter is still not a sun. I'm disappointed. [11:31:14] ---| ---> mjg_1 [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:31:15] ---| ---> edc [~ecorrado@156-56-58-227.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:31:15] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@d-128-193-235.bootp.Virginia.EDU] has joined #code4lib [11:31:20] edsu | sesuncedu: time keeps on spinning? [11:31:22] * BillDueber always sings "fly like an eagle" in Elmer Fudd's voice. Try it! [11:31:27] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:31:27] yitznewton | atz: re twitter, you can contact me at yitzchak.schaffer touro.edu if that didn't make sense [11:31:28] edsu | s/spinning/slipping/ [11:31:36] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:31:38] mbklein | anna3lc++ GRIDWORKS [11:31:42] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:31:43] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:31:47] archivist | anna3lc, that means comparing the original with the data, redo from start [11:31:49] ---| <<-- mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:31:53] BillDueber | "I wanna fwy, wike an eegle..." 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[11:32:20] sesuncedu | anna3lc: graphviz from LCSH shows a lot of the problems [11:32:22] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [11:32:23] ---| ---> kirkhess [8cb69710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.151.16] has joined #code4lib [11:32:24] ---| <<-- chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:32:28] edsu | http://experimental.worldcat.org/mapfast/ [11:32:31] ---| <<-- masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:32:32] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:32:45] jrochkind | BillDueber: probably not. 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Hope more documentation becomes available. [11:33:27] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:28] ---| ---> jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:28] jaron1 | anyone else experiencing flaky wireless? of course i'll probably be dropped before i see your response. [11:33:30] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:30] pberry | Guessing just me [11:33:32] ---| ---> bess1 [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:32] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:32] ranti | a GIS is the tool for that [11:33:33] akorphan | Pretty close, actually. [11:33:34] MrDys | I can hear lunch being set out next to us, and it sounds like phillip marley is rattling them chains [11:33:34] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:35] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:33:36] ---| ---> gluejar_ [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:36] ---| ---> erikhatcher_ [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:33:37] sibylschaefer | Go VT! [11:33:41] ---| <<-- gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:33:41] BigD | I hope lunch (provided) is White Castles. 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[11:34:00] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:34:00] mbklein | South Dakota? [11:34:01] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:34:01] ---| User: *** paulalbert_ is now known as paulalbert [11:34:02] ---| <<-- jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:34:02] ---| User: *** jaf_ is now known as jaf [11:34:02] dchud_ | this feels like the room we were in at Access '09, it's just bigger and missing the hoops and bingo paraphernalia [11:34:03] ---| User: *** ecorrado__ is now known as ecorrado [11:34:05] ---| ---> mjt0229 [~mjt0229@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:34:07] BillDueber | That map would be more useful if it showed use per person. [11:34:07] ---| ---> code4lib [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:34:09] dlovins | royt++ librarywebchic++ [11:34:09] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:34:10] pmurray | jaron1: Yeah, something is weird with the wireless. I can't quite put my finger on it thought. [11:34:11] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:34:11] ---| <<-- mounts_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:34:12] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:34:14] ---| ---> danwho [9c383ad7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.215] has joined #code4lib [11:34:14] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:34:22] akorphan | Hey, if one were to split up a map into equipopulous areas, what divisions would one use? Is congressional district the best commonly available bet? [11:34:24] ---| ---> willsexton_ [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [11:34:24] sesuncedu | dchud: The game isn't till tomorrow. [11:34:26] gsf | dchud_: those hoops were cool [11:34:28] pberry | Red green colorblind charts [11:34:33] ---| ---> rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [11:34:33] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-229-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:34:34] akorphan | (This is a US map) [11:34:35] sesuncedu | akorphan: Not really [11:34:36] jaf | so, it would be interesting to see potential visualizations for marketing library services, such as displaying on monitors over circulation [11:34:40] jrochkind | akorphan: or census tract? 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[11:34:56] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@140-182-150-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:34:56] rsinger | @discoball [11:34:57] zoia | rsinger: try feathers next time [11:34:59] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:34:59] BillDueber | akorphan: There's no good way. Congressional districts only approximate it within a state. [11:35:04] akorphan | sesuncedu: I know they're not REALLY equipopulous [11:35:06] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:35:06] ---| User: *** cbeer_ is now known as cbeer [11:35:10] sesuncedu | mbklein: Every which way [11:35:10] ---| <<-- pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:35:13] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:35:19] ---| <<-- jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:35:19] ---| <<-- ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:35:19] ---| <<-- willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:35:19] ndushay | i'm not sure users want to be coerced into thinking of topics hierarchically [11:35:28] akorphan | jrochkind: How are census tracts defined? [11:35:33] jrochkind | looking that up now [11:35:33] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:35:36] sesuncedu | ndushay: Actually they intrinsically do [11:35:42] ---| ---> tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has joined #code4lib [11:35:46] edsu | that mapfast app is really nice [11:35:47] sesuncedu | ndushay: sort of [11:35:50] akorphan | danke schoen [11:35:51] ndushay | sesuncedu: from what? amazon? [11:35:52] druthb | ndushay++ [11:35:54] ---| <<-- mjt0229 [~mjt0229@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:35:54] ---| <<-- asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:35:56] BigD | dchud_: It disappeared into my daughter's room. I hear it's doing well. [11:35:58] ---| ---> mtomko [~mjt0229@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:35:59] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:35:59] ---| User: *** NoelDiaz_ is now known as NoelDiaz [11:36:01] ---| ---> abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:36:04] anna3lc | anarchivist: some data would require going to the original, but a lot wouldn't require it. also one can cross-reference with other data sets for, e.g. pub. dates [11:36:11] jrochkind | akorphan: Census tracts usually have between 2,500 and 8,000 persons and, when first delineated, are designed to be homogeneous with respect to population characteristics, economic status, and living conditions. Census tracts do not cross county boundaries. The spatial size of census tracts varies widely depending on the density of settlement. Census tract boundaries are delineated with the intention of being maintained over a long time [11:36:11] jrochkind | so that statistical comparisons can be made from census to census. [11:36:17] ---| ---> benanderson [9c383b15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.21] has joined #code4lib [11:36:21] druthb | They want to be *able* to, in some cases, I think, but *forcing* anyone to think a certain way to find stuff is a way to become thoroughly irrelevant. [11:36:22] ndushay | i think they are just as happy with usage data driven recommender services, largely [11:36:25] ---| ---> timmcgeary [~chatzilla@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:36:27] ---| ---> magnusenger [~esme@148.212.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #code4lib [11:36:28] magnusenger | rtig [11:36:29] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:36:30] ---| ---> deeeceee [cfd2830a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.210.131.10] has joined #code4lib [11:36:31] gsf | ndushay: you think people would rather just type in their own words and search? [11:36:32] ---| <<-- vphill [~vphill@156-56-58-144.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: vphill) [11:36:37] sesuncedu | ndushay: See Eleanor Rosch's work : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype_theory [11:36:38] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [11:36:38] akorphan | jrochkind: That's not so bad [11:36:41] * druthb waves to magnusenger. [11:36:49] pberry | I just became mayor of alumni hall [11:36:51] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:36:51] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [11:36:59] * magnusenger waves back to druthb [11:37:02] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:37:04] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [11:37:04] edc | I think people just want to get to what they are looking for. [11:37:09] akorphan | Anyone know what the greatest disparity between two congressional districts is as a ratio of population? or guesses in that direction? [11:37:09] ndushay | gsf: i think users want to type in their own words and get what they want. [11:37:22] sesuncedu | ndushay: remember, the 2nd object [11:37:27] ndushay | actually, they want to just think about it and have the resource teleported to their location. [11:37:31] gsf | ndushay: though they do enjoy complaining about the results [11:37:32] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-mzjefvgkgdxlhrxu] has joined #code4lib [11:37:34] ndushay | the 2nd object? [11:37:43] jrochkind | akorphan: congressional districts probably about as good. census tracts are a lot smaller. one of those is probably the best you'll get. [11:37:47] sesuncedu | The second object of the catalog [11:37:51] pberry | People want answers, they just don't always know the questions [11:37:56] sesuncedu | (you do *NOT* talk about catalog) [11:37:57] jrochkind | census tracts are also less weirdly shaped. [11:38:07] mbklein | pberry: As mayor, can you take care of this parking ticket for me? [11:38:19] ---| <<-- yitznewton [~yitznewto@64.20.191.59] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:38:19] ndushay | sesuncedu: the second object of the catalog? [11:38:23] tzhaya | One of Japanese geek made MapFAST like interface, see http://myrmecoleon.sytes.net/map/ , input ISBN code. [11:38:24] flyingzumwalt | akorphan: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=what+the+greatest+disparity+between+two+congressional+districts+is+as+a+ratio+of+population [11:38:27] ndushay | to help librarians/ [11:38:29] ndushay | ? [11:38:29] pberry | mbklein: For a small fee, of course [11:38:29] sesuncedu | http://library.music.indiana.edu/tech_s/manuals/training/catalog/cutter.html [11:38:31] jrochkind | tzhaya++ [11:38:36] flyingzumwalt | Other languages with "congressional" as a word: Romanian. [11:38:38] ndushay | object -> objective? [11:38:40] * timmcgeary is starting to worry that his talk will only be 10-15 minutes [11:38:51] mbklein | Talking fast while talking FAST. [11:38:52] julia_ | akorphan: I'd bet that the states that are so small that they only get one congressional representative are probably the outliers. [11:38:53] sesuncedu | ndushay: Stop being so 20th century. [11:39:14] ---| ---> Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:39:16] gsf | timmcgeary: just stall with technical difficulties [11:39:18] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [11:39:29] timmcgeary | mbklein: dym talking fast about fast talk? [11:39:29] jrochkind | nobody will complain about a talk taht's shorter tahn 20 min. [11:39:31] akorphan | julia_: I'm thinking, like, all of Montana as compared to the most poulous district in southern california might be a good test case [11:39:34] jaf | big fonts++ [11:39:38] ---| <<-- gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:39:40] atz | one fixed width mega font to rule them alll [11:39:42] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:39:43] ---| User: *** Baroquem_ is now known as Baroquem [11:39:50] akorphan | flyingzumwalt: Wolfram Alpha FAIL [11:39:51] gsf | good distinction there between JSON and javascript [11:39:52] BigD | Json screens are the new xml screens [11:39:52] danwho | enhance, enhance [11:39:55] edsu | @band add Fake Calculation [11:39:55] timmcgeary | holy large font point, batman [11:39:55] zoia | edsu: Band 'Fake Calculation' added to list [11:39:57] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:39:59] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [11:40:06] gluejar | now that's big code! [11:40:08] akorphan | Zoom! Rotate! And... Enhance! [11:40:08] timmcgeary | Why is the US map so Missouri-centric? [11:40:10] ---| ---> charper [~yaaic@198.sub-174-253-4.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [11:40:17] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [11:40:18] ---| <<-- code4lib [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:40:24] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@conference/code4lib/x-jgrrkkpqiqdlrgve] has joined #code4lib [11:40:25] royt | is it me, or is the conference behind schedule? [11:40:38] pmurray | royt Slightly behind schedule. [11:40:41] ---| ---> code4lib [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:40:42] sesuncedu | timmcgeary: because Missouri loves company [11:40:44] ---| <<-- willsexton_ [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:40:45] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:40:48] akorphan | "It looks like crime..." (puts on shades) "... just got put on the map." YEEEAAAAAAHHHH! [11:40:50] ---| ---> ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:40:50] ---| ---> yegusa_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:40:52] pmurray | royt: There were technical problems getting the keynote going. [11:40:53] timmcgeary | royt: everyone else is on time [11:40:55] ---| ---> maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:40:59] ---| <<-- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:41:00] BigD | royt: And it's you. It's all about you. [11:41:03] escowles | buffering... [11:41:04] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [11:41:04] timmcgeary | sesuncedu++ [11:41:04] edc | iPad timer download going really slow :( [11:41:04] jaf | royt: california time, buddy [11:41:05] scolford | royt: You're behind schedule. By 3 hours. [11:41:06] timmcgeary | puns++ [11:41:08] pberry | timmcgeary: Its the center of the universe [11:41:10] sesuncedu | except for people in the future [11:41:11] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:41:15] BigD | Computers suck [11:41:19] royt | thanks, all. [11:41:22] ---| <<-- abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:41:22] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:41:22] ---| User: *** ecorrado__ is now known as ecorrado [11:41:22] mbklein | akorphan: Average district population: 647K. Largest: 905K. Smallest: 495K. [11:41:22] akorphan | live_demos+- [11:41:25] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [11:41:33] ---| ---> abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:41:34] ---| ---> sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has joined #code4lib [11:41:37] mbklein | akorphan: That's congressional districts [11:41:42] timmcgeary | sesuncedu: well played pun [11:41:45] akorphan | mbklein: Wow, 2:1 is better than I was expecting. [11:41:48] ---| <<-- fontanka [~fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:41:50] decasm_ | i'm somewhere where i don't know where i am [11:41:51] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:41:59] ---| <<-- tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:41:59] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:42:02] ---| User: *** yegusa_ is now known as yegusa [11:42:05] csharp | always have screenshots [11:42:07] paulalbert | Who is doing the denial of service attack on librarywebchic? [11:42:17] ---| <<-- charper [~yaaic@198.sub-174-253-4.myvzw.com] has quit (Client Quit) [11:42:32] ---| ---> mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:42:34] BigD | escowles: Are you doing a lightning talk? [11:42:36] edc | Paulabert: Skyriver? [11:42:36] edsu | protovis++ [11:42:38] MrDys | @who is frenemies with protovis [11:42:39] zoia | mcdonald1 is frenemies with protovis. [11:42:39] escowles | mbklein: which districts are those? [11:42:39] eefcee | http://www.librarywebchic.net/mashups [11:42:59] jtgorman | eefcee: think we're crushing the server... [11:43:02] atz | i hope the podium has wired access... [11:43:06] sesuncedu | @dnd [11:43:06] zoia | sesuncedu: strength:8 dexterity:15 constitution:11 intelligence:12 wisdom:12 charisma:13 [11:43:10] sesuncedu | is how I roll [11:43:15] dchud | any questions for librarywebchic from streamers? [11:43:17] escowles | BigD: i thought you were doing one [11:43:19] timmcgeary | questions? [11:43:23] edsu | can someone ask how they geocoded subject headings? [11:43:24] timmcgeary | Beuller? [11:43:24] mbklein | akorphan: Largest geographically: Alaska at-large (663,267 mi²). Smallest: NY 15th (10.29mi²) [11:43:32] pberry | And...I'm gone? [11:43:32] pberry | @karma [11:43:33] * edsu shrugs [11:43:34] zoia | pberry: Highest karma: "mbklein" (406), "edsu" (379), and "anarchivist" (369). Lowest karma: "iii" (-127), "central_IT" (-31), and "php" (-17). You (pberry) are ranked 42 out of 2828. [11:43:35] jstirnaman | atz: supposed to have 1 or 2 lines I think [11:43:38] royt | the cool part of this is she has tons of demo code to share [11:43:40] anna3lc | librarywebchic++ [11:43:41] tshearerlib | N stopped working for me and had to migrate to G [11:43:45] gsf | dchud swoops in [11:43:47] edsu | yay :-) [11:43:50] dchud | edsu: asking [11:43:52] maccabee_ | librarywebchic++ [11:43:53] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [11:43:53] BigD | escowles: No plan yet. Maybe you and matt can show mobile stuff? [11:43:54] jtgorman | or the network system here is blocking any url that gets hit a lot [11:43:54] dchud | er, asked [11:43:55] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:43:57] mbklein | escowles: Most populous: Montana at-large; Least populous: Wyoming at-large [11:43:58] eefcee | librarywebchic++ [11:44:03] ---| ---> grk2me [~chatzilla@156-56-58-73.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:44:04] dlovins | librarywebchic++ [11:44:04] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:44:04] ---| User: *** cbeer_ is now known as cbeer [11:44:05] jaron1 | royt: where can the code be found? [11:44:08] akorphan | mbklein: Highest and lowest pop densities of districts? (since you have been so cheerily forthcoming with data already....) [11:44:09] atz | librarywebchic++ [11:44:11] dchud | edsu: are you following the answer? [11:44:14] jtgorman | are folks out of the conference able to access the sample pages? [11:44:14] * edsu blushes [11:44:16] jdwyn | librarychic++ [11:44:17] edsu | dchud: yes [11:44:19] timmcgeary | librarywebchic++ [11:44:19] royt | jaron1: let me see if I can dig up the URL [11:44:20] jtgorman | librarywebchic [11:44:22] dchud | cool. [11:44:26] royt | her last slide had URLs [11:44:28] ---| User: *** maccabee_ is now known as maccabee [11:44:38] edsu | thankyou! [11:44:38] ---| <--- deeeceee [cfd2830a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.210.131.10] has left #code4lib () [11:44:39] ---| ---> hkm [9c383a68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.104] has joined #code4lib [11:44:43] ---| <<-- danwho [9c383ad7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.215] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:44:52] akorphan | I once tried to use Wolfram Alpha to figure out how much the gold in the Italian Job would weigh, given its value in 1964 dollars. I was disappointed. [11:44:58] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [11:45:00] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [11:45:23] sesuncedu | @decide windows or dongles [11:45:23] zoia | sesuncedu: go with windows [11:45:27] sesuncedu | zoia-- [11:45:32] royt | not_using_windows++ [11:45:33] mbklein | akorphan: Working on it. [11:45:34] eefcee | zoia-- [11:45:35] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:45:41] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: maxxkrakoa) [11:45:43] timmcgeary | perfect intro con-windows [11:45:45] ---| ---> ntra_ [8cb6fbbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.187] has joined #code4lib [11:45:47] akorphan | mbklein++ [11:45:51] ---| ---> slamm1 [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has joined #code4lib [11:45:51] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:45:53] gsf | for a sec i thought he said tommy bartlett [11:45:55] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:45:56] gsf | the_dells++ [11:45:59] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:46:02] ---| ---> morgan8_ [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:46:11] pberry | Brrr [11:46:15] pberry | Grr [11:46:22] pmurray | 190 people in channel. Is that a record? [11:46:27] jtgorman | gsf: never got to go to Tommy Barlett, just drove on by :( [11:46:28] sesuncedu | National Security Letter optimization [11:46:32] ---| ---> danwho [danwho@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:46:40] akorphan | Zoia should track that. [11:46:40] zoia | akorphan: can we please keep these meetings theoretical? [11:46:44] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:46:45] julia_ | pmurray: I suspect there are more in than usual because of the live streaming of the presentations. [11:46:49] pberry | Mmmmm pasta [11:46:51] BillDueber | OOps. Name clash. http://www.metridoc.com/ [11:46:58] atz | spaghetti_infrastructure-- [11:47:10] ---| <<-- abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:47:11] jrochkind | at one point at jhu an admin wanted to copy their 'data farm'. Thankfully we didn't. yet. [11:47:14] sesuncedu | touched by his noodly appendage [11:47:26] timmcgeary | spaghetti_with_meatballs++ [11:47:26] gluejar | geocoded subject headings++ [11:47:33] * royt can't wait for someone to try to justify Kuali OLE using "a document repository, a semantic repository, and a relational repository" [11:47:36] anna3lc | diagrams++ [11:47:37] BillDueber | What's more shareable than perl scripts??? [11:47:39] ---| <<-- pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:47:42] akorphan | I raise datasheep and datachickens on my datafarm. [11:47:43] mjg_ | the next time I'm disconnected from wi-fi, please curate all funny comments for later ingestion. 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[11:47:53] gsf | yes, it would work so much better if we rewrote it in java [11:47:56] julia_ | akorphan++ [11:48:03] ---| ---> sciversedev [juoflx@69.41.165.101] has joined #code4lib [11:48:05] ---| ---> dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:05] ---| <<-- asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:05] ---| <<-- pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:06] mjg_ | gsf++ [11:48:06] ---| <<-- code4lib_ [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:07] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:07] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:08] jaf | royt: i bet you could if you used RDF [11:48:08] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:10] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:10] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:48:11] ---| ---> ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:12] ---| ---> rjhoyle_ [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:12] mtomko | BillDeuber: perl scripts name a.pl, b.pl, etc. [11:48:15] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:16] ---| ---> asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:17] ---| ---> bess2 [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:22] royt | timmcgeary: no, just eager to hear ;-) [11:48:27] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:29] ---| ---> dchud__ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:35] chelociraptor | gsf++ [11:48:39] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:41] timmcgeary | royt: not sure I'll be able to justify it - just sharing what we're going to try to do [11:48:41] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [11:48:46] ---| ---> librarywebchic [9c383aad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.173] has joined #code4lib [11:48:48] ndushay | is he talking about a workflow system? [11:48:48] ejk | Grant Money = G Money [11:48:51] pberry | He should [11:48:53] royt | timmcgeary: fair enough [11:48:55] ---| ---> chickmarkley [~chickmark@conference/code4lib/x-exbeamwjtfuzzips] has joined #code4lib [11:48:56] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:48:59] dchud__ | "i'm not saying anything bad about perl but if your code is longer than one page..." [11:49:02] BigD | RDF fix evryting! 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[11:49:53] jaf | ping [11:49:58] ---| ---> code4lib_ [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:49:58] atz | perl is plenty maintainable.... compare to adminning drupal through upgrades. [11:50:00] edsu | royt: if you stopped drinkin' and going to meetings long enough, yes [11:50:01] royt | sesuncedu: haha [11:50:02] ndushay | why do we always recreate the wheel while trying not to recreate the wheel? 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[11:50:29] ---| ---> yegusa_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:50:30] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:50:30] zoia | I saw Lon Cheney Jr. walking down the street [11:50:30] ejk | Prime The Repository [11:50:32] MrDys | if this is datafarm 2.0, why didn't they go with a more standard ETL/BI approach? 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[11:50:45] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@mobile-166-137-142-113.mycingular.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:50:45] ---| User: *** morgan8__ is now known as morgan8 [11:50:49] ---| ---> code4lib__ [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:50:57] ---| <--- code4lib__ [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:51:00] atz | i think we're crushing the network now [11:51:02] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:51:03] ---| <<-- bess1 [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:51:12] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:51:13] gsf | atz: it's about time [11:51:16] akorphan | What was that?? Did I just see the embodiment of the channel in the channel? [11:51:24] ---| User: *** edc is now known as ecorrado [11:51:25] sesuncedu | (#$forAll ?X (#$fixes #$RDF-TheLanguage ?X)) [11:51:28] ---| <<-- morgan8_ [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:51:32] decasm_ | hold on, going to start torrenting wikileaks [11:51:33] ---| <<-- masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:51:36] mjg_ | I like to recreate the pig wheel with lipstick. [11:51:37] sesuncedu | The query could not be proved [11:51:39] ---| ---> malictus [9c38916c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.145.108] has joined #code4lib [11:51:39] ---| ---> code4lib__ [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:51:40] jrochkind | hmm, ther's a commercial product unrelated called metridoc too. anyone got a page for the penn tool? 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[11:52:00] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-143-097.mycingular.net] has quit (Client Quit) [11:52:01] sesuncedu | mjg: The pig to lipstick ratio is variable [11:52:02] gsf | i could see this working pretty well with restful http communication [11:52:03] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [11:52:03] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:52:07] paulalbert | Open source project idea - application to kick everyone else off the network [11:52:10] gsf | dchud__: noted [11:52:11] akorphan | I had an idea for a computer language a while ago where the only conditional structure was try/catch [11:52:18] rickj | hudson++ [11:52:18] mjg_ | @whocares java [11:52:18] mbklein | A patchy camel? [11:52:21] zoia | ksclarke loves java [11:52:21] jeff | SYS-IDS-OMGPANIC-7: IRC botnet located in campus auditorium. [11:52:22] zoia | mjgiarlo, mjg_, rsinger, MrDys, ww, bess and anarchivist hate java [11:52:26] atz | sound like the kind of problems and the kind of approach I might try to address w/ nagios [11:52:27] ---| <<-- code4lib__ [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:52:29] kestlund | http://code.google.com/p/metridoc/ [11:52:30] sesuncedu | akorphan: call-cc [11:52:32] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:52:32] ---| User: *** dchud__ is now known as dchud [11:52:38] jrochkind | kestlund++ [11:52:38] decasm_ | groovy for when scripting is more appropriate? wtf? [11:52:48] jrochkind | kestlund: hey, are you in bloomington then? 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[11:53:32] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:53:37] gsf | royt: well they're doing pretty well with their various subprojects [11:53:41] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:53:41] ---| <<-- bess2 [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:53:46] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [11:53:46] ---| <<-- asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:53:49] ---| <<-- ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:53:49] ---| <<-- rjhoyle_ [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:53:50] kestlund | jrochkind: definitely! 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[11:54:10] edsu | s/Hudson/Jenkins/ [11:54:11] ---| <<-- code4lib_ [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:54:12] ---| ---> BigD_ [~bigd@mobile-166-137-141-123.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [11:54:12] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:54:14] ---| <--- kcoyle [~kcoyle@adsl-76-254-40-171.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #code4lib () [11:54:16] akorphan | THE NETWORK SHE CRAWLS [11:54:18] jrochkind | this app is actually something we need. metridoc. and he is convincing me they tried to do it right unlike their 'data farm' attempt. [11:54:18] atz | getting rid of all cronjobs is... not desirable, imho [11:54:19] royt | gsf: agreed [11:54:22] mbklein | mjg_: Is there anything that mjgiarlo loves that mjg_ hates? Or vice versa? 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[11:55:10] eby | jaf: Might pop it on wiki list [11:55:11] ---| <<-- sciversedev [juoflx@69.41.165.101] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:55:11] sesuncedu | mbklein: mjgiarlo exactMatch mjg_ ? [11:55:13] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:55:13] mbklein | dbs: You think it's bad in here, you should see what it's like over in #mjg [11:55:15] royt | gsf: heh [11:55:17] jaf | eby: it is [11:55:26] ---| ---> mcdonald5 [~Adium@140-182-150-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:55:29] eby | See it now [11:55:36] mjg_ | jaf: you may get your wish of a neckbearded code4lib if I keep spawning myself. (don't, BigD, just don't.) [11:55:40] mbklein | akorphan: My census fu is failing me trying to get population density by congressional district. [11:55:41] ---| ---> stevenrmiles [~srmiles@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:55:42] ---| ---> ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:55:46] ---| <<-- ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:55:47] BillDueber_ | ecorrado: Keep it in mind. Hudson is good for when you get less happy with cron. [11:55:57] ---| <<-- mcdonald1 [~Adium@140-182-150-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:56:02] mjg_ | Even with these screens on the side, my old eyes would benefit from a font-up. [11:56:04] ---| ---> dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:56:06] akorphan | mbklein: quite all right. Just a curious whim anyway. [11:56:11] ---| <<-- duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:56:20] jaf | mjg_: I now have this image of a bunch of toddler mjg's running around, in their neckbeards, yelling 'Daddy!' [11:56:22] BigD_ | Never feed mjg_ after midnight. Never get him wet. [11:56:25] rsinger | @dunno search FOT [11:56:25] akorphan | I think i broke wikipedia.... [11:56:26] mbklein | akorphan: But now you've got me curious! [11:56:27] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:56:27] zoia | rsinger: No matching dunnos were found. [11:56:27] rsinger | er [11:56:29] pmurray | One line of code with method chaining. Isn't that cheating? ;-) [11:56:31] rsinger | @dunno search FONT [11:56:33] zoia | rsinger: 2 found: #301: "Font up!" and #326: "try switching your font to Mornotype Sans" [11:56:36] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@156-56-59-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:56:37] ---| User: *** BigD_ is now known as BigD [11:56:38] ---| <<-- gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:56:39] ---| ---> gluejar_ [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:56:39] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:56:40] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:56:42] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:56:45] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:56:49] sesuncedu | You can fly to the moon with one line of APL [11:56:50] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:56:53] atz | a web interface to "cronniness" could be really useful if adequately configurable and auth-lockdown-able [11:57:00] atz | thinking of multi-ILS hosting [11:57:01] MrDys | we can work it, line by line [11:57:18] akorphan | Atz: I want a web interface for croniness. [11:57:19] mbklein | @decide cron or krunk [11:57:19] zoia | mbklein: go with cron [11:57:22] scolford | I whip my data back and forth. [11:57:23] sesuncedu | I've done concurrency in java. It's pretty easy. [11:57:23] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:57:39] ---| ---> masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:57:39] jrochkind | atz: there is a ruby library for setting up cronjobs with a more reasonable api than cron itself. you could put a RESt on top I guess. [11:57:54] ---| ---> tzhaya_ [~chatzilla@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [11:57:56] atz | akorphan: webmin does that already [11:57:57] edsu | sesuncedu: easy to mess up yeah [11:57:58] sekjal | atz: yes.... I'd like to have a working Task Scheduler again in Koha [11:57:59] MrDys | scolford++ [11:58:04] ---| ---> librarywebchic_ [~androirc@14.sub-174-253-19.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [11:58:05] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@mobile-166-137-141-123.mycingular.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:58:06] ---| ---> bmljenny_ [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:58:08] sesuncedu | The C++ zero-copy marc cruncher using MPI - that was trickier [11:58:09] jrochkind | i actually like the software he's showing us, but yeah I'm not sure why he wants to keep saying you couldn't do it in any other language, fo course you could. [11:58:14] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:58:14] mbklein | @decide crontab or bartab [11:58:14] zoia | mbklein: go with crontab [11:58:21] mbklein | zoia: you're no fun [11:58:22] royt | I keep my data in leather and chains [11:58:22] zoia | mbklein: have you tried @gmail.com? [11:58:23] tokeee | sesuncedu: I think cumbersome it the keyword. Threading is very explicit in Java [11:58:26] atz | sekjal: the old one was a joke and a serious security hole (and couldn't scale to multiple kohas per host) [11:58:29] jrochkind | but i am relatively impressed by their software, re-using good open source tools instead of reinventing the wheel poorly. [11:58:35] atz | but yeah, convenience is good [11:58:36] mbklein | royt: TMI! UNSEE! UNSEE! [11:58:36] mtomko | sesuncedu: concurrency in and of itself is easy, but it gets ugly when you start interacting with queueing systems in JMS. [11:58:36] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:58:38] ---| ---> KingNightWolf_ [a6cb3b11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.203.59.17] has joined #code4lib [11:58:39] mtomko | it's still not that bad. [11:58:42] ---| <<-- bmljenny_ [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:58:42] ---| <<-- jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:58:43] ---| ---> jaf_ [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:58:45] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:58:50] akorphan | atz: So it would rate, like, Dick Cheney "really high" and, I don't know, Spiro Agnew "nuisance"? [11:58:50] ---| ---> bmljenny_ [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:58:50] maccabee | java.util.concurrent++ [11:58:51] royt | mbklein: lol [11:58:55] sesuncedu | mtomko: only if you haven't been doing it for a while :-) [11:58:55] ---| <<-- kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:58:59] ---| <<-- charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:59:02] ---| <<-- mcdonald2 [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:59:08] decasm_ | i've been sold on erlang's concurrency model. all the rest are stupid. [11:59:08] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:59:18] ---| User: *** jaf_ is now known as jaf [11:59:18] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-hbqudomzjampqvto] has quit (Quit: flyingzumwalt) [11:59:26] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:59:27] MrDys | @ana stupid concurrency model [11:59:28] zoia | MrDys: Moody, succinct plunderer [11:59:28] mbklein | decasm: Isn't there something promising in Haskell? [11:59:29] atz | decasm: deterministic runtime performance FTW! [11:59:31] jrochkind | we've caught up 10 minutes, not bad. [11:59:32] royt | speakers need to give more lead time on questions, talks end too abruptly to be ready [11:59:34] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:59:36] * pmurray is finding that the -G SSID is faster than the -N SSID. [11:59:37] sesuncedu | mtomko: (done it with two different JMS providers, and XA/Transcations to a different database provider) [11:59:38] ---| ---> willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [11:59:40] ---| ---> bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has joined #code4lib [11:59:43] pmurray | I didn't think it was supposed to work that way. [11:59:45] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:59:46] royt | OLE! [11:59:48] dbs | @google images concurrency model -nsfw [11:59:49] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:59:49] zoia | dbs: Wiley::Concurrency: State Models and Java Programs, 2nd Edition: ; Wiley::Concurrent and Real-Time Programming in Java: ; Does Python have a concurrency problem? - O'Reilly ONLamp Blog: ; Synthesis (2 more messages) [11:59:51] mtomko | sesuncedu: I've used a modded up ActiveMQ [11:59:56] edsu | decasm_: armstrong's chapter in Coders at Work is awesome [12:00:00] decasm_ | mbklein: not sure about haskell. wouldn't surprise me, though. [12:00:02] MrDys | let's. get. businessy. [12:00:04] jaf | for a sec there I read that slide as 'Kuali ale' [12:00:06] ---| <<-- mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:00:06] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-143-097.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [12:00:07] * royt can't help thinking of a Koala [12:00:11] mtomko | but it wasn't exactly JMS compliant, so it had some quirks. [12:00:14] ---| ---> iPat [~iPat@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [12:00:17] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:00:18] mjg_ | Kuato Ale [12:00:19] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:00:20] atz | my question "Have you done anything yet?" [12:00:20] jaron1 | @takify kuali ole [12:00:20] zoia | Ǩ Ự Ǻ Ł İ   Ō ℒ Ể [12:00:23] KingNightWolf | yea having major problems with the N [12:00:24] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:00:25] ---| User: *** bmljenny_ is now known as bmljenny [12:00:26] MrDys | @ana kuali ole [12:00:27] zoia | MrDys: Lieu Kola [12:00:30] ---| ---> paulalbert_ [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:00:35] ---| <<-- dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:00:35] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:00:37] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-yxjdafohleziutsi] has joined #code4lib [12:00:38] mjg_ | @zalgo2 OLE PROJECT [12:00:39] zoia | mjg_: O͝Ļ̴E̴̢ ̷́P͏R͘͜Ó̵JEC͢T [12:00:39] mtomko | The code isn't so bad, but it's a lot of boilerplate to get going. that said, I'm a java fan and activemq treated us pretty well. we used to crank a lot of data through it. [12:00:42] royt | Brad apparently works twice as hard [12:00:42] mbklein | Isn't ELM supposed to be emceeing? And what about book giveaways? Do we have an attendee randomizer? [12:00:44] ---| ---> bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [12:00:49] mbklein | Is Eric here? [12:00:49] ---| <<-- paulalbert_ [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [12:00:51] charper | Koala Luau? [12:00:51] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:00:52] ---| User: *** tzhaya_ is now known as tzhaya [12:00:56] ---| <<-- jstirnaman1 [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:00:56] akorphan | OLE! [12:01:01] gsf | what's cool is streaming the live video right here in the room [12:01:02] iPat | So, wireless [12:01:06] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@156-56-59-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:01:08] gsf | since there's all this bandwidth to spare [12:01:09] jrochkind | we could use an mc. [12:01:10] ---| <<-- malictus [9c38916c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.145.108] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [12:01:23] royt | jrochkind: I nominate you [12:01:23] ---| <<-- danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:01:24] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:01:25] mbklein | 'cause I'm DEFINITELY emceeing my scheduled slot tomorrow afternoon. Just try and stop me. [12:01:25] ---| ---> dan64_ [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:01:27] ecorrado | /nick edc [12:01:27] ---| <<-- dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:01:27] akorphan | gsf: So THAT's what's going on with the wireless. [12:01:28] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:01:28] atz | jrochkind: or an invisible "narrator" [12:01:29] ---| User: *** dan64_ is now known as dan64 [12:01:34] ---| <<-- tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:01:34] jrochkind | royt: that's funny i nominate you. [12:01:38] akorphan | jrochkind: I call DJ [12:01:42] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:01:46] ---| ---> ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:01:48] royt | jrochkind: that's really funny, as I'm not there ;-) [12:01:49] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:01:52] ---| ---> skoczko_ [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-caboanlcbscksktk] has joined #code4lib [12:01:59] mjg_ | gsf: I'm doing an experiment to see how many tabs I can open w/ concurrent video streams in chrome. [12:02:01] atz | royt: you could still narrate [12:02:04] escowles | wow, chicago is the furthest west [12:02:07] BigD | I hunger [12:02:09] sesuncedu | MC Z39.48: This is.... acid-free [12:02:09] KingNightWolf | I started using my att wifi card ... slowwwww wireless [12:02:10] BillDueber_ | ...but will take 8+ years [12:02:11] mjg_ | currently given the bandwidth I'm up to 0. [12:02:19] BillDueber_ | BigD: You and Sinistart [12:02:20] mbklein | royt: Yeah, the #roysucks twitter hashtag has been unnaturally silent since LITA Forum [12:02:20] eby | Got plenty of extra screens to put royt scowling on [12:02:24] jtgorman | BigD: yeah, I think they crammed a little too much before lunch... [12:02:31] mbklein | royt: I still have a saved search on it though, just in case. [12:02:36] ---| ---> asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:02:38] royt | mbklein: what's up w/that? you'd think it would be smokin' [12:02:43] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:02:45] sesuncedu | 503 __ $c [12:02:47] jaf | so, can someone tell me in one sentence what the goal of OLE is? [12:02:49] ---| <<-- benanderson [9c383b15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.21] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:02:49] ---| <<-- pjb_ [9c383b47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.71] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:02:50] mjg_ | @euphemism "community source" [12:02:50] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:02:50] atz | enterprise scale leveraging... [12:02:50] zoia | mjg_: did you raise the ire of the narragansett again? [12:02:51] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-mzjefvgkgdxlhrxu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:02:53] jrochkind | jtgorman: gee, you think that has something to do with the surprise extra keynote? [12:02:56] ---| User: *** skoczko_ is now known as skoczko [12:03:01] royt | jaf: to acquire grant funds [12:03:02] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:03:05] ---| ---> scolford_also [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:03:07] wtd | How was librarywebchic's talk? [12:03:10] mtomko | it's not that I don't approve of agile, it's that I don't care to hear about it anymore. [12:03:11] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:03:11] ---| User: *** asnagy_ is now known as asnagy [12:03:12] ---| <<-- iPat [~iPat@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Client Quit) [12:03:13] jaf | royt: that's a how, not a what, buddy :) [12:03:14] ---| <<-- joyce__ [9c383b4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.74] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:03:16] ---| ---> sciversedev [ejakuh@69.41.165.101] has joined #code4lib [12:03:20] sesuncedu | OLE involves Duke. It's goal must be to suck [12:03:29] BillDueber_ | jaf: accurately model library processes top-to-bottom and then build a reference implementation to support them. [12:03:30] mbklein | Hint: The flatscreens on the sides of the room have much better contrast than the projector. [12:03:32] royt | jaf: no, that's the what ;-) [12:03:34] ---| ---> danhorst1 [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:03:39] jaf | BillDueber_: eh what? [12:03:44] royt | jaf: the one and only goal [12:03:44] mjg_ | sesuncedu++ [12:03:45] BigD | BillDueber_: RUN COWARD!!! [12:03:45] ---| <<-- ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:03:45] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:03:47] BillDueber_ | Note to self: don't use red [12:03:51] dbs | mtomko: agile is focused on delivering working code, right? [12:03:52] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:03:53] BillDueber_ | BigD++ [12:03:57] escowles | red-- [12:03:58] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:04:00] JodiS | do we want to resurrect the buzz page? [12:04:04] ---| <<-- willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:04:07] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:04:16] JodiS | I'm thinking the keyholders list should be someplace -- but maybe not 'social events' [12:04:19] ---| ---> anna3lc__ [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:04:23] ---| ---> benanderson_ [9c383b15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.21] has joined #code4lib [12:04:26] atz | "we want to bite off more than ANYBODY can chew" [12:04:30] jrochkind | they want to do some nice things. [12:04:30] edsu | 5yearplans-- [12:04:34] mbklein | ranti: Are you still planning to MC the afternoon? http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_committees_sign-up_page#MCing [12:04:36] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [12:04:47] ---| ---> sdellis_ [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has joined #code4lib [12:04:51] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:04:52] ---| ---> jlhardes_ [8cb69428@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.40] has joined #code4lib [12:04:55] mjg_ | here's your slide, jaf [12:04:55] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:04:56] ---| <<-- danhorst1 [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [12:04:56] pmurray | enterprise-level++ [12:04:59] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:05:00] edsu | enterprise, bleh [12:05:02] jaf | community source does not equal open, so maybe it should be called CLE [12:05:05] sesuncedu | The goal must involve boldly going [12:05:08] jrochkind | now with more enterprise! [12:05:11] ranti | mbklein: do we still need it, though? The timing is rather tight. [12:05:12] ---| ---> julia__ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [12:05:12] decasm_ | meanwhile, in detroit: http://twitter.com/mayordavebing/status/34698788601860096 [12:05:13] zoia | @MT There are not any plans to erect a statue to Robocop. Thank you for the suggestion. [12:05:14] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@conference/code4lib/x-jgrrkkpqiqdlrgve] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [12:05:16] MrDys | note to self, use lots of red [12:05:16] jaf | mjg_: yeah, but I'm still waiting for an answer [12:05:19] ---| <<-- sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:05:19] druthb | jaf: I was wondering about that, myself. [12:05:21] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:05:24] edsu | MrDys++ [12:05:27] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:05:28] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:05:32] atz | yeah, they have the proprietary-infected mindset I am all too familiar w/ [12:05:35] jrochkind | good call, not build a search interface [12:05:40] pmurray | @twit --id 34698788601860096 [12:05:41] zoia | pmurray: @MT There are not any plans to erect a statue to Robocop. Thank you for the suggestion. [12:05:48] ---| ---> slamm1_ [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has joined #code4lib [12:05:48] gsf | enterprise-- [12:05:50] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:05:51] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [12:05:51] zoia | sorry, i had to spend the whole day babysitting kshepherd [12:05:53] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:05:55] ---| ---> yegusa_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:05:59] ranti | mbklein: looks like the speakers can just go the podium right away. Unless if we still need to introduce them. [12:05:59] ---| <<-- anna3lc_ [~anna3lc@li62-110.members.linode.com] has quit (Quit: leaving) [12:06:00] akorphan | linked_data+- [12:06:02] mjg_ | @euphemism "enterprise" [12:06:02] jaf | OLE seems to be a macro approach to building an ILS [12:06:03] zoia | mjg_: what's that got to do with the crack epidemic in flint? http://freep.com/uploads/images/2008/07/saggychart0709.jpg [12:06:05] BigD | To replace iii [12:06:07] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [12:06:07] jrochkind | i mean if they can do everything they say they want to do, do it well, that will be nice. [12:06:09] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:06:09] ---| <<-- jlhardes [8cb69428@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.40] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:06:10] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:06:11] atz | interchangable services is a reasonable goal [12:06:12] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:06:15] dbs | Memo to Conifer consortium: the software you've been running your library on and contributing to for 2 years with 3 nines availability (including planned maintenance outages) is not enterprise-level [12:06:17] edsu | jaf: they use Lisp? [12:06:21] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [12:06:23] ---| ---> anna3lc_ [~anna3lc@li62-110.members.linode.com] has joined #code4lib [12:06:24] ---| <<-- cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [12:06:26] jaf | edsu: no they speak clearly [12:06:27] JodiS | added to http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#Hanging_out_in_the_Hospitality_Suite [12:06:29] atz | dbs++ [12:06:31] ---| <<-- pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:06:34] ---| <<-- jeanrri [9c383a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.92] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:06:36] ---| <<-- danwho [danwho@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:06:36] sesuncedu | edsu: No - that would not be sucking [12:06:36] mjg_ | JodiS++ [12:06:40] ---| ---> cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:06:44] edsu | sesuncedu: heh [12:06:50] druthb | dbs++ [12:06:53] atz | jrochkind: if they can do ANY ONE THING they plan on doing, great. [12:06:56] akorphan | My definition of enterprise-level, in my head anyway, has always been "big, expensive and poorly documented" [12:06:57] decasm_ | 3 is not enough tiers [12:06:59] ---| <<-- slamm1 [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:06:59] ---| <<-- julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:06:59] ---| <<-- chunkstyle [810a6913@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.10.105.19] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:06:59] jrochkind | however, the actual business world seems to have abandoned SOA busses about two years ago. [12:07:06] ---| User: *** yegusa_ is now known as yegusa [12:07:07] MrDys | JodiS++ # for still participating even from an ocean away [12:07:07] druthb | plus, I'm looking in my Roget's, and I'm trying to see if I can find out when "enterprise" == "big." [12:07:08] mbklein | ranti: Is anyone from the book giveaway committee in here? Do we have stuff to give away? [12:07:10] JodiS | mjg: hey, I forgot to buy BigD a beer or three when I was in SD. Please stand him a couple for me. :) [12:07:12] jaf | "we don't have a justification statement for doing this" [12:07:18] mjg_ | @arch has tiers running down his face [12:07:19] zoia | THE ARCHITECT HAS TIERS RUNNING DOWN HIS FACE [12:07:22] mtomko | decasm_ : it's enough to approximate XOR with backpropagation [12:07:23] royt | and they're starting coding? [12:07:24] ---| <<-- codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:07:26] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:07:27] jrochkind | "enterprise" is slightly more useless a descriptor than "cloud". [12:07:28] gluejar_ | just getting into this. But hey, we have an architecture [12:07:33] gsf | @ana enterprise service bus [12:07:33] jrochkind | and "webscale" [12:07:33] zoia | gsf: Best-ever sinecures rip [12:07:35] royt | jrochkind++ [12:07:39] jtgorman | JodiS++ [12:07:41] JodiS | code4lib++ #for being awesome to hang out with, even an ocean away! [12:07:49] ---| <<-- Guest60702 [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:07:49] ---| <<-- mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:07:51] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-149-224.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:07:51] scolford_also | we have stuff. and i have random name picker. what i don't have is electronic attendee list. anyone got it? [12:07:52] atz | jrochkind: perhaps the opposite, they are overused [12:07:53] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:07:53] ---| ---> pjb_ [9c383b47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.71] has joined #code4lib [12:07:55] edsu | who needs software if we have diagrams! [12:08:01] sesuncedu | @decide enterprise service bus or short bus [12:08:01] zoia | sesuncedu: go with short bus [12:08:03] jaf | i worry about any project that does not have clear, concrete, and focused goals [12:08:06] mtomko | doesn't believe in formats! [12:08:08] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:08:08] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [12:08:14] ---| <<-- kirkhess [8cb69710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.151.16] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:08:15] akorphan | edsu: If you did your diagrams in UML, you'd HAVE software! [12:08:16] sesuncedu | I haven't made up my mind about format [12:08:20] decasm_ | the formats are a lie [12:08:21] MrDys | jackrabbit is enterprise web scale [12:08:25] akorphan | ok, not really. [12:08:26] * ecorrado__ is holding his opinion of OLE until he actually sees the software, but I like what tthey are thinking about [12:08:28] jrochkind | atz: not the opposte, one and the same. A buzzword that doens't actually mean anything but makes people think you are doing something important is VERY popular. enteprirse. cloud. webscale. [12:08:29] jaf | i've done too many without those myself [12:08:35] gsf | edsu++ [12:08:35] edsu | akorphan: you're livin' the dream [12:08:38] maruyama3 | Kuali OLE at USA, Next-L at JPN! Future library system [12:08:43] atz | indeed [12:08:45] druthb | jaf: It has a goal: build an enterprise-level (meaning big)...uhm...nevermind. ;-) [12:09:00] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:09:05] jrochkind | what's kuali rice again? [12:09:10] erikhatcher | no, you can't have a simple search interface! [12:09:13] mjg_ | jrochkind: "enterprise service bus" [12:09:15] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:09:16] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [12:09:21] ---| ---> shammer [4a4b7247@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.114.71] has joined #code4lib [12:09:22] sesuncedu | What if... we built an ILS... on top of peoplesoft [12:09:25] decasm_ | magic, got it [12:09:26] ---| ---> fowbar [8e679df3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.103.157.243] has joined #code4lib [12:09:28] royt | "this is where the magic will happen" - love it [12:09:30] ---| ---> asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:09:31] ranti | mbklein: I don't know when the book giveaway would be. Take the 10 minutes of the break (14:50pm)? [12:09:32] ejk | live_stream++ [12:09:36] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [12:09:38] ndushay | can anyone hear me? my conn keeps dropping. [12:09:43] ---| ---> sekjal_ [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:09:43] mbklein | sesuncedu: Soylent Evergreen? [12:09:44] jrochkind | this is a good idea. [12:09:46] mjg_ | ndushay: yep [12:09:46] atz | "effectively use linked data" is enough of a goal by itself [12:09:47] druthb | I hear you, ndushay. 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[12:09:59] edsu | ndushay: but can we hear you now? [12:10:06] jrochkind | like atz said, if they can do just ONE of these components well, and it really is de-coupled so i can use it... I'll use their semantic repository. [12:10:10] ---| <<-- stevenrmiles [~srmiles@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:10:10] anna3lc_ | wondering what the differences are btwn OLE and XC [12:10:12] mjg_ | semantic repository = metadata store? [12:10:12] ---| ---> ksclarke1 [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:10:13] ---| ---> anna3lc__ [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:10:13] ---| ---> kirkhess [8cb69710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.151.16] has joined #code4lib [12:10:13] jaf | and the semantic repository meets what/which goal/outcome? 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[12:10:29] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:10:29] erikhatcher | Mmmmm, bacon + chocolate [12:10:29] gsf | erikhatcher: your search interface isn't enterprisey enough [12:10:30] JodiS | "It's kind of like linking chocolate with bacon" [12:10:32] ---| ---> py_ [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has joined #code4lib [12:10:32] duspal | Chocolate Bacon is delicious [12:10:33] chelociraptor | bacon++ [12:10:34] MrDys | magic = "uhhh...I dunno" [12:10:35] ---| ---> tdonohue_ [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [12:10:37] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:10:37] ---| ---> mtomko [~mjt0229@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:10:37] JodiS | he forgot about pie! [12:10:38] mbklein | ndushay: There goes your bacon motif. It's been done now. 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He looks like a fiat [12:11:05] royt | jrochkind: good, then maybe you can one day explain it to me so I can understand it [12:11:07] atz | fuck no. you're building a "full blown ERP system"? [12:11:07] jaf | it's hard to use bacon as a metaphor for the ILS. Lipstick on bacon just doesn't sit right [12:11:11] bmljenny | Damn autocorrect [12:11:13] jtgorman | KFS? [12:11:14] jrochkind | royt: sure [12:11:15] erikhatcher | gsf: oh, it's "Enterprise". look, it's right there in the name, so it must be: http://www.lucidimagination.com/enterprise-search-solutions [12:11:16] ---| ---> ddawg [9c383aa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.163] has joined #code4lib [12:11:16] atz | as a SIDE PROJECT? [12:11:21] pberry | Yay, finally got back on wireless [12:11:23] mbklein | @decide enterprise or cloud or webscale or bacon [12:11:23] zoia | mbklein: go with enterprise [12:11:25] edsu | atz: :-) [12:11:28] ---| ---> mjg_1 [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:11:28] mbklein | zoia: you suck [12:11:29] ---| ---> BigD_ [~bigd@mobile-166-137-141-123.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [12:11:29] zoia | mbklein: your feedback is priceless [12:11:30] jrochkind | erikhatcher: you forgot to put 'cloud' and 'webscale' in the name. [12:11:33] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [12:11:44] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:11:47] pmurray | atz: It's already built. Kuali Financial Services is one of the existing systems. [12:11:53] pberry | I tried to get Chico to look at kuali rice a while ago [12:11:54] jtgorman | ah [12:11:55] Baroquem | "A full-blown erp" sounds pretty bad in any context. [12:11:59] MrDys | I smell sterno cannisters...lunch can't be far away [12:12:00] erikhatcher | jrochkind: damn.... i'll get that back to marketing [12:12:02] jrochkind | it's kuali rice SOA messaging bus where he loses me. [12:12:05] jtgorman | KFs = Kuali Financial Services [12:12:05] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [12:12:05] pberry | But, we ended up with share point somehow [12:12:08] akorphan | I can't keep all the kuali products straight [12:12:10] * sesuncedu is thinking about building a Roll based access control system with BACACs [12:12:11] edsu | Baroquem: i'm w/ you [12:12:13] JodiS | ugh, licensing! [12:12:17] bmljenny | Cloud bacon. It sounds like some of that crazy molecular gastronomy stuff. [12:12:18] pberry | Sharepoint-- [12:12:22] ---| ---> ecorrado___ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:12:23] BigD_ | Dead soldiers at #c4l11 I'm predicting this is 1/10th of tonight. http://twitpic.com/3xm18t [12:12:24] ---| <<-- tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:12:27] atz | pmurray: ah, ok.... why did he talk about it as a new potentiality then/ [12:12:27] ---| <<-- anna3lc_ [~anna3lc@li62-110.members.linode.com] has quit (Quit: leaving) [12:12:28] atz | ? [12:12:30] jaf | so, i have no doubt the technical expertise is there in this project, but again, building to what goals? [12:12:32] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [12:12:32] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [12:12:36] akorphan | Developers: Please give your products mnemonic names! FOR THE CHILDREN! [12:12:37] decasm_ | nervous system? kuali is skynet! [12:12:39] pmurray | atz: I didn't hear it that way... [12:12:41] ---| <<-- ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:12:42] tzhaya | jrochkind++ [12:12:43] pberry | Kuali OLE: it's bacon-scale [12:12:45] charper | I know it's marketing speak, but what word other than "enterprise" would you all use to discuss the merging of silos? [12:12:50] jtgorman | was KFS on FLOSS? [12:12:51] mjg_ | how many lines of code is this thing gonna wind up with, and who's gonna be able to manage it? how many folks in library IT work with kuali products? [12:12:52] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [12:12:55] pmurray | atz: (But I already knew what KFS is) [12:12:55] jaf | bacon-scale++ [12:12:57] ecorrado___ | enterprise webscale bacon in the cloud! [12:13:00] ---| ---> hkm [8cb6faf0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.240] has joined #code4lib [12:13:04] jrochkind | i mean, if it WORKS to do that, that'll be useful. [12:13:09] gluejar_ | if vc's had spent $5 million on a startup and after a year hadn't delivered working code, they'd fire the CEO [12:13:15] jrochkind | but yeah what mjg_ said. [12:13:21] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Quit: highermath_away) [12:13:27] edsu | gluejar_: totally [12:13:31] sesuncedu | One week ago? [12:13:36] mbklein | If Cary talks fast too, we can make it to lunch on time! [12:13:36] edsu | gluejar_: luckily this is academia :-) [12:13:37] akorphan | gluejar: tough love! [12:13:38] decasm_ | should i ever present again, i'm going to intentionally omit salient details to force questions [12:13:38] jrochkind | on the other hand, it's an ILS replacement, and we all pay support money for ILSs and shoudln't expect to stop doing that for their replacement. [12:13:40] ecorrado___ | ipd seems to play with the network better ten my MacBookPro [12:13:41] jaron1 | what's the minimal viable product here? [12:13:51] jrochkind | jaron1: that is a better question. [12:13:58] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@156-56-59-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [12:13:59] ---| User: *** BigD_ is now known as BigD [12:14:00] gluejar_ | jaron1: exactly! [12:14:05] akorphan | lunch++ [12:14:11] gsf | elm don't need no mic [12:14:11] anna3lc | bukkit [12:14:15] edsu | is that elm? [12:14:16] jrochkind | three data stores? [12:14:17] sesuncedu | jaron1: iii has set the bar pretty low [12:14:19] MrDys | edsu: yeah [12:14:21] ---| ---> jeanrri [9c383a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.92] has joined #code4lib [12:14:24] charper | jaron1: that's my struggle, too. I want the ancillary stuff and their starting with acquisitions... [12:14:26] jtgorman | I'm sure there's something I should be asking, but I don't think I'm wrapping my head around this enough to start [12:14:30] edsu | hehe, funny how characteristic his voice is [12:14:37] ---| ---> mjg_2 [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:14:39] sesuncedu | the EL is short for Extra Loud [12:14:39] MrDys | edsu: surprised you can hear him over the stream [12:14:40] eefcee | oops, not hearing questions on live_stream [12:14:41] escowles | gluejar_: but that's part of why vc sucks [12:14:41] edsu | s/characteristic/distinctive/ [12:14:43] jrochkind | that part makes me think over-engineered again [12:14:45] akorphan | Maybe now is the wrong time to download GIMP [12:14:56] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:14:57] mbklein | decasm_: The "presentation - details = questions" formula relies on AVG(RAND(paying_attention)) [12:14:57] druthb | concreteness++ [12:15:00] gsf | three types of stuff, three buckets [12:15:01] ranti | ... [12:15:06] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:15:09] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [12:15:09] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:15:14] ---| ---> tzhaya_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:15:19] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:15:19] edsu | We Will Bury Your Toy Projects In Concrete [12:15:22] bmljenny | I hope these aren [12:15:23] MrDys | @ana raised to the enterprise [12:15:25] zoia | MrDys: Heroines prettiest dear [12:15:25] sesuncedu | eeeek [12:15:29] jrochkind | i don't understand why 'descriptive data' (like MARC) is in a different 'store' than 'semantic data'. [12:15:36] akorphan | gsf: What are the three types? Buckets, silos, and... ? [12:15:38] bmljenny | I hope these are not TOY buckets. [12:15:38] mbklein | O NOES MAH BUKKIT DUSN'T SCALE [12:15:44] ---| <<-- fowbar [8e679df3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.103.157.243] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:15:46] atz | i don't get it. these dudes don't have credibility to me. you haven't built A library system, let alone one up to "enterprise level" [12:15:52] ---| ---> schemer [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has joined #code4lib [12:15:52] druthb | Mah bukkit isn't enterprise-ready! oh noes! [12:15:56] sesuncedu | jrochkind: semantic data should relate to some consensual reality [12:16:00] decasm_ | mbklein: damn, my plan has failed before it got off the ground [12:16:00] ecorrado___ | OLE wanting to replace WorldCAt? [12:16:02] freqlurker | concrete examples are fail here [12:16:07] ---| ---> dbwells [~chatzilla@dhcp144-180.calvin.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:16:07] jrochkind | atz: yes, there is a credibility gap [12:16:11] rsinger | escowles: surely, though, there's got to be some middle ground [12:16:12] sesuncedu | cement overshoes [12:16:14] mbklein | @decide worldcat or lolcat [12:16:14] zoia | mbklein: go with lolcat [12:16:21] freqlurker | my brain shuts down when I hear "enterprise-scale" in this context [12:16:21] atz | i want them to succeed at what they claim. and i'm not seeing. [12:16:23] chelociraptor | freqluker++ [12:16:23] scolford | zoia++ [12:16:35] gsf | @quote add < edsu> We Will Bury Your Toy Projects In Concrete [12:16:35] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #2511 added. [12:16:39] sesuncedu | Think outside the bus [12:16:42] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:16:45] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [12:16:45] akorphan | Has anyone implemented a LOLCODE compiler yet? [12:16:46] ---| <--- greg-g [~greg@ubuntu/member/greg-g] has left #code4lib () [12:16:52] rsinger | escowles: between VC ROI and "never-ending grant money funnel" [12:16:52] * royt just got run over by the bus [12:16:53] freqlurker | maybe if they did this presentation after a year of coding [12:16:53] MrDys | ...and you will know us by the trail of buried toy projects in concrete [12:16:54] ---| <<-- jwd [~jwd@140-182-229-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jwd) [12:16:56] BigD | Loclcat [12:16:57] jtgorman | is an enterprise bus like a messaging system? [12:17:01] edsu | @decide Enterprise Server Bus or Ken Kesey's Bus [12:17:01] zoia | edsu: go with Ken Kesey's Bus [12:17:03] ---| ---> bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has joined #code4lib [12:17:09] gsf | does this enterprise bus stop at white castle? [12:17:10] royt | totally [12:17:10] mjg_2 | jtgorman: sounds like a superset [12:17:13] mbklein | jtgorman: yes [12:17:14] escowles | rsinger: sure, but a year doesn't seem like too long to figure this stuff out [12:17:15] jrochkind | avoiding the question [12:17:15] jtgorman | ie if we add a student it notifies people [12:17:16] sesuncedu | Acid free [12:17:16] ---| User: *** mjg_2 is now known as mjg_ [12:17:18] sekjal | give me something I can download and deploy to a library, and have them be able to continue to do their jobs, and I'll work from there [12:17:19] druthb | gsf++ [12:17:22] pberry | jtgorman: It's not unlike one [12:17:24] mbklein | gsf++ [12:17:25] anna3lc | gsf++ [12:17:28] druthb | sekjal++ [12:17:29] decasm_ | i'm on the short enterprise bus [12:17:31] edsu | s/Server/Service/ [12:17:31] akorphan | white_castle++ [12:17:32] rsinger | escowles: it's been way over a year, though [12:17:36] mbklein | @quote search working [12:17:41] zoia | mbklein: 15 found: #1035: " Not QUITE everything that could go...", #1177: " sorry, busy working on anvil...", #1264: " Happiness is a set of well-documented...", #1387: "edsu: what's twitter? gsf: it's the...", #1775: "< chickmarkley> I don't know of any software...", #1914: "< jrochkind> On the other hand, spending a week...", #1996: " if I can't get this dang (2 more messages) [12:17:41] bmljenny | So this includes an ESB and rice. That sounds delicious. [12:17:42] duspal | "It would be out if they were using the six sigma method. Thats thats the key to everything." --1998 [12:17:44] rsinger | @band add Body by White Castle [12:17:44] zoia | rsinger: Band 'Body by White Castle' added to list [12:17:47] mbklein | @more [12:17:47] zoia | mbklein: thing...", #208: "< djfiander> working code always wins", #209: "< mjgiarlo> I'm working on becoming so indie...", #212: " Must keep working on writing all...", #2244: "< jrochkind> i'm totally gonna stay late at...", #2428: "< wtd> There's a conference talk I'd like to...", #465: " open source means just because we...", #518: "< djfiander> there's a working group that's...", and #995: " one (1 more message) [12:17:49] mjg_ | bmljenny++ [12:17:50] jtgorman | I wish my ILS would work with our university's messaging system... [12:17:51] jrochkind | i have no idea what he means by 'community source'. [12:17:52] gluejar_ | My next project is the White Castle service bus [12:17:56] jrochkind | @google kuali license [12:17:57] akorphan | When o'clock is lunch? [12:17:57] zoia | jrochkind: Licensing and Acknowledgments - Kuali Rice - Kuali Wiki: ; Jaxen License - Kuali Foundation - Kuali Wiki: ; P6Spy License - Kuali Foundation - Kuali Wiki: ; Codehaus License - Kuali Foundation - Kuali Wiki: (2 more messages) [12:18:00] pberry | The investment in getting rice going is non-trivial [12:18:01] MrDys | jrochkind: free labor [12:18:02] * royt is missing his C4L peeps so much it hurts [12:18:02] mbklein | @quote get 208 [12:18:03] jtgorman | jrochkind: Microsoft definition? [12:18:03] zoia | mbklein: Quote #208: "< djfiander> working code always wins" (added by edsu at 11:40 AM, March 01, 2006) [12:18:04] edsu | gluejar_++ [12:18:10] jrochkind | he seems to mean something different by it [12:18:18] freqlurker | akorphan: 12:30 [12:18:18] BigD | Who wants to collaborate on a grant to buy an enterprise bus to go get a bucket of white castles? [12:18:21] decasm_ | royt: i prescribe two whiskeys for that pain [12:18:22] yo_bj | I wish my ILS would work [12:18:23] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [12:18:26] freqlurker | *raises hand* [12:18:28] royt | decasm_++ [12:18:28] sesuncedu | @blame skyriver for roy's pain [12:18:28] zoia | sesuncedu: i pinged skyriver like eight times and they never responded for roy's pain [12:18:32] gluejar_ | Will Kuali be WCSB compliant? [12:18:34] druthb | BigD: I'm in. [12:18:36] mjg_ | jrochkind: it's like open source but not. [12:18:41] gsf | royt: you just can't quit us [12:18:42] jaron1 | so with each sprint they'll release something that works? [12:18:43] royt | sesuncedu++ [12:18:47] royt | gsf: no shit [12:18:47] ranti | ksclarke1: do we have books to give away? [12:18:48] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [12:18:50] jrochkind | i like the apache license. he said "like the apache license". If it's a lot like the apache license, that's certainly open source. [12:18:53] edsu | @quote add < yo_bj> I wish my ILS would work [12:18:54] zoia | edsu: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 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[12:19:10] escowles | BigD: i'm in [12:19:16] MrDys | jrochkind: right, which is why I can't understand why they just can't use the apache license [12:19:21] jrochkind | good question [12:19:23] akorphan | jrochkind: If it's "like" the Apache license, then all we know for sure is that it's "like" Open Source [12:19:24] ksclarke1 | ranti: yes, we're working out the logistics still though (getting list of attendees, hooking up to script, etc.) [12:19:25] pmurray | 200 people in channel. videostream++ [12:19:27] ---| <--- dbwells [~chatzilla@dhcp144-180.calvin.edu] has left #code4lib () [12:19:27] yo_bj | edsu++ [12:19:28] ---| User: *** ksclarke1 is now known as ksclarke [12:19:33] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:19:36] jrochkind | that's all we know for sure, right. which is why i am wondering [12:19:36] jaf | i believe the intent is to allow anyone to use the software, but they'll likely only include kuali community members in terms of advancing the software [12:19:42] royt | holy cow, this must be the most folks we've ever had [12:19:44] sesuncedu | like, or "like like" [12:19:45] druthb | Did anyone think to keep count of how many times he said "enterprise?" [12:19:46] ---| ---> cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:19:55] akorphan | sesuncedu: it's eating you magic shield! [12:19:58] pberry | It's cool that IU has this level of infrastructure, but its not that common [12:20:05] jeff | druthb: at least 1701 times. [12:20:08] jaf | oooh, 2 more people and the chat room hits 200! [12:20:08] royt | druthb: you would need an enterprise level system to keep track [12:20:09] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: erikhatcher) [12:20:18] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [12:20:18] mjg_ | timmcgeary++ [12:20:18] BillDueber_ | druthb: It's shorter than "the shitty one-off crap that we usually use" [12:20:18] mbklein | (responding to solitary applause) Hey, you, with the clap! Get outta here! [12:20:19] gsf | timmcgeary++ thanks for being the messenger [12:20:19] pberry | I wish I had access to this level of infrastructure [12:20:21] ecorrado___ | MrDys: That was addressed by Brad Wheeler :They needed to add patent things [12:20:23] ---| ---> sconnie [9c383b1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.27] has joined #code4lib [12:20:25] BigD | Cary won [12:20:35] BigD | Ha. Stupid iPad. [12:20:43] MrDys | patents. great. [12:20:47] timmcgeary | gsf: thanks [12:20:47] BigD | Cary won't finish early. [12:20:56] sesuncedu | Unicorn Patents [12:20:58] mbklein | BigD: MONGO HUNGRY [12:20:59] druthb | royt: lol [12:20:59] anna3lc | timmcgeary++ [12:20:59] pberry | Software_patents-- [12:21:00] ---| ---> Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:21:04] jaf | 200! [12:21:05] decasm_ | jaf: how many nicks are dups? mine is. [12:21:06] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:21:06] ---| ---> jkeck [~Adium@SUL-AC-MBP-JK.Stanford.EDU] has joined #code4lib [12:21:06] ---| User: *** Baroquem_ is now known as Baroquem [12:21:07] mjg_ | @sing nas : hoosier state of mind [12:21:08] ---| <<-- py_ [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [12:21:09] jtgorman | @quote get 1996 [12:21:09] zoia | mjg_: No lyrics found for hoosier state of mind by nas [12:21:11] zoia | jtgorman: Quote #1996: " if I can't get this dang thing working today I'm just rewriting it in perl" (added by gmcharlt at 04:22 PM, September 15, 2009) [12:21:11] akorphan | TICK... TICK... TICK... [12:21:12] druthb | timmcgeary++ [12:21:14] sekjal | I'd like take tonights drinking to the enterprise level: http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/bd88/ [12:21:15] mtomko | USPTO--. software patents are just a corollary [12:21:16] ---| ---> CaptSolo [captsolo@kaste.lv] has joined #code4lib [12:21:19] BigD | MONGO LIKE CANDY!!! [12:21:19] edsu | MrDys: yeah, here use our fringe license that has stuff about patents in it ... FAIL [12:21:33] royt | sekjal++ [12:21:34] timmcgeary | so how many times did I say enterprise? [12:21:35] druthb | sekjal++ [12:21:37] pberry | Can we taking drinking to web scale though [12:21:41] timmcgeary | god, I talk to fast [12:21:43] awead | is it kosher to use your own laptop for a lightning talk? [12:21:44] pberry | Take [12:21:54] jrochkind | edsu: can you find the license anywhere? I can't. What's the intent of the "stuff about patents"? [12:21:55] pberry | DAMN YOU AUTOTYPO [12:21:56] cbeer | MrDys, edsu: I think ECL is something Mellon is pushing [12:22:00] sesuncedu | awead: only if you forget the dongle [12:22:02] anna3lc | sekjal++ [12:22:03] mbklein | Hey everyone! Cary's password is •••••••••••! [12:22:03] royt | awead: only if it's been blessed by a Rabbi [12:22:05] MrDys | I will say, that this is the most "industry"-style "open" organized library project I've ever seen... [12:22:06] akorphan | awead: Kosher, maybe, but probably not well advised [12:22:08] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:22:12] mjg_ | @urbandict rad [12:22:14] zoia | mjg_: rad: An abbreviation of 'radical'--a term made popular by the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Still primarily used by people on the West Coast who find words like 'cool', 'awesome', and 'tight' to be tired and overused; 'rad' is generally considered to be a much higher praise than the aforementioned superlatives. Also used as a general expression of awe. [example] "Those are some rad shoes." "Oh, RAD." [/example] ; (3 more messages) [12:22:15] jaf | the room is too quiet [12:22:16] ---| ---> stevemeyer [~stephenme@156-56-59-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:22:19] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:22:28] jtgorman | jaf: cause we want food [12:22:29] edsu | jrochkind: not sure, the kevin_spacey lookalike dude this morning wasn't clear about it [12:22:31] MrDys | jaf: blood sugar low [12:22:32] royt | "I'm with the Cherry Hello" [12:22:32] BigD | Crickets! [12:22:34] scolford | @dunno add Hey everyone! Cary's password is •••••••••••! [12:22:34] zoia | scolford: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1121 added. [12:22:35] pberry | don't piss off the av geeks [12:22:42] MrDys | @band add Cherry Hello [12:22:43] zoia | MrDys: Band 'Cherry Hello' added to list [12:22:45] gluejar_ | add "enterprise" to the beer word list [12:22:47] mbklein | Speaking of IRC passwords… http://bash.org/?244321 [12:22:50] jrochkind | edsu: It is true that some existing open source licenses don't do a good enough job of giving you permission to use patents owned by code authors. IF they are trying to do BETTER at that, there's nothing wrong with that. Although yeah, still ideally they'd work with someone existing, not just invent their own. [12:23:00] jaf | i feel that we need a spontaneous rap breakout [12:23:01] atz | timmcgeary: i was also curious about the number of developers on the project. robert (mcdonald) says a core of 2 or 3 devs, and then htcglobal's team of between 6 and 30 devs, depending on the size of the sprint [12:23:02] bmljenny | There is no bus to White Castle. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmljenny/5428711868/ [12:23:06] awead | sesuncedu: I have webpages to show that only run on my laptop, but I could just take screen shots [12:23:07] ---| ---> AJS [8cb6e5f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.243] has joined #code4lib [12:23:10] BigD | 60 hz so good [12:23:11] edsu | jrochkind: seems like tilting at windmills to me [12:23:16] jaf | everyone channel their inner eminem [12:23:20] pberry | Hooray [12:23:21] mjg_ | BigD++ [12:23:30] ---| ---> caroldotou [9c383b2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.45] has joined #code4lib [12:23:31] sesuncedu | My name's cary gordon and I rock the mike [12:23:33] MrDys | drupal's new logo is not horrible [12:23:34] ecorrado___ | Enterprise in High Resolution! [12:23:35] edsu | jrochkind: but could be lots of billable hours in it fo sho [12:23:38] jrochkind | edsu: yeah, why bother even putting an open source license on it at all, it's just tilting at windmills to try to legally license things, clearly. [12:23:40] timmcgeary | atz: that's correct. that does not include partner developers that are coding interchanges between OLE and their enterprise apps [12:23:52] gluejar_ | its really a license for toys [12:23:52] jtgorman | our University actually recently got some sort of enterprise messaging system. Looks cool, but I don't know a useful way to hook into Voyager... [12:23:55] edsu | jrochkind: yeah [12:23:57] davidWalker | this presentation more my speed [12:24:03] atz | timmcgeary: do you imagine that will be the dev structure for the foreseable future? [12:24:09] BigD | bmljenny: So sad! [12:24:11] ecorrado___ | darn people [12:24:13] sesuncedu | enterprise hooks in to v'ger system [12:24:14] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-143-097.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:24:14] ranti | ksclarke1: do you think we could do one this afternoon (before the break)? [12:24:17] * jtgorman pictures never having to do another patron feed again or explain to people why even though they got an I-Card an hour ago they're still not in the U system [12:24:29] ---| ---> mbach [9c383b0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.11] has joined #code4lib [12:24:29] edsu | yay, drupal [12:24:33] jtgorman | sesuncedu: for patron stuff? [12:24:38] pkiraly | Drupal++ [12:24:39] * mbklein would rather go to Steak 'n' Shake than White Castle [12:24:45] mjg_ | mbklein-- [12:24:47] pmurray | mbklein++ [12:24:47] jtgorman | sesuncedu: is there some sort of ncip hook? [12:24:47] eefcee | not quite WP is for sure! [12:24:49] ranti | droopaall [12:24:50] gluejar_ | the license won't make a bit of difference, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your viewpoint [12:24:51] atz | drupal: everything is cool, until you upgrade. [12:24:54] akorphan | mbklein: You can go to BOTH [12:24:55] eefcee | I care! [12:24:58] akorphan | Where is the nearest White Castle? [12:25:00] timmcgeary | atz: I do, but I can also imagine a shift in 6-9 months [12:25:01] awead | steak_n_shake++ [12:25:05] eefcee | (but I'm not there) [12:25:07] jrochkind | you don't need to care about patent licensing until Oracle tells you you can't use open source software they wrote and licensed open source, but didn't license you to use their patents and yo've got to pay them for that. [12:25:10] duspal | Arbys > everyone else [12:25:12] mbklein | akorphan: 22 miles north [12:25:14] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:25:16] ecorrado | (dchud glares at skypers and network troubles) [12:25:25] Baroquem | Is anyone using Drupal 7 yet? [12:25:27] timmcgeary | Here is the OS license Kuali's license is based on : http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ecl2.php [12:25:28] akorphan | mbklein: So close! And yet.... [12:25:37] ---| <--- magnusenger [~esme@148.212.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has left #code4lib () [12:25:38] edsu | ecorrado: maybe he should stop watching the live stream ;-) [12:25:38] atz | timmcgeary: thx [12:25:46] timmcgeary | atz: yw [12:25:51] ---| ---> malictus [814f2378@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.79.35.120] has joined #code4lib [12:25:56] * mbklein is waiting for the DRuPaul theme for Drupal [12:25:59] jrochkind | um, where do we sign up for breakouts? [12:26:06] jtgorman | timmcgeary: was kuali on the FLOSS podcast? there's some dim memories stirring in the back of my head [12:26:10] BigD | mbklein: Let's drive to champaign! [12:26:10] mjg_ | mbklein: "Don't blame me; I voted for DRonPaul" [12:26:15] ---| ---> benanderson [9c383b15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.21] has joined #code4lib [12:26:18] pmurray | jrochkind: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_Breakout_Sessions [12:26:18] mbklein | jrochkind: Don't sign up, just break out, man. [12:26:18] chelociraptor | mbklein++ [12:26:28] BigD | duspal-- [12:26:32] jaron1 | jrochkind: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_Breakout_Sessions [12:26:34] atz | 7 still breaks basic modules I need... that were also broken by 6... [12:26:36] timmcgeary | jtgorman: I'm not sure - it might have been. It wasn't me for certain. I did the Library 2.0 Gang Podcast in March 09 [12:26:55] mjg_ | DRonPaul: the first content management system written entirely by libertarian cross-dressers. [12:26:57] ---| <<-- banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:26:59] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [12:27:00] jaf | drupal is your friend. druple is... um... well, that pun didn't work [12:27:01] MrDys | drupal 7 christmas [12:27:14] timmcgeary | btw - i'm timmcgeary on Twitter, Google, Yahoo, and Skype if anyone else has questions [12:27:18] ---| ---> joshbishoff [9c383b4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.76] has joined #code4lib [12:27:20] akorphan | D7SXE [12:27:21] ranti | ksclarke: do you think we could do some book gieveaway this afternoon (before the break)? [12:27:22] eefcee | wp++ [12:27:40] edsu | timmcgeary: how many developers do you have workin' on all that stuff you talked about? [12:27:40] ksclarke | yes, we are now ready I'm told by scolford [12:27:45] ksclarke | ranti ^ [12:27:46] akorphan | "My module will respect its body and Drupal Core..." [12:27:47] atz | 1000 devs is a ton. [12:27:50] mbklein | ksclarke++ ranti++ scolford++ [12:27:59] ---| <<-- hdl [~hdl@biblibre-breteuil.pck.nerim.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:28:05] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [12:28:07] atz | same problem now [12:28:08] timmcgeary | edsu: we are ramping up to 30 FT programmers, but currently, probably less than 6 [12:28:13] akorphan | atz: I thought it was 2000 devs [12:28:14] pjb_ | sXe = boring [12:28:18] akorphan | atz: Or 1000 METRIC devs [12:28:24] scolford | Indeed ready. (Someone actually has the books, right?) [12:28:25] ---| ---> danwho [IceChat7@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:28:27] dbs | timmcgeary: jrochkind: if the ECL is not compatible with the GPL, then that prevents existing open source ILS projects from being able to collaborate, which would suck [12:28:29] ranti | ksclarke++ scolford++ [12:28:31] mbklein | timmcgeary: 30 Ft Developers? Where the F do they sit?! [12:28:32] BigD | Ranti needs a friggin book! [12:28:34] mbklein | yuk yuk yuk [12:28:37] pmurray | drupal_credo-- [12:28:38] ---| ---> banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:28:41] pberry | API stability is for suckers [12:28:47] ---| ---> mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:28:49] * ksclarke wonders if the books have been taken down to the front [12:28:55] atz | unstable API... why not just fork? [12:28:58] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [12:28:59] druthb | API stability is for people who want to sleep at night... [12:29:01] timmcgeary | dbs: My understanding of ECL is that it is compatible. But I'm not a legal guy [12:29:03] alxp | yeah I love working with D7's api [12:29:04] jaf | ksclarke, ranti: next year let's do a cookie raffle too! [12:29:05] BigD | Whats a book? [12:29:07] * davidWalker cries [12:29:08] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Client Quit) [12:29:09] MrDys | hah [12:29:12] dbs | timmcgeary: cool, I hope so [12:29:15] timmcgeary | mbklein: Either India or Michigan [12:29:16] MrDys | @scalia mostly a cms [12:29:17] zoia | MrDys: 'mostly' a cms [12:29:17] ranti | BigD: p-books, to be exact. [12:29:18] akorphan | buckets? or silos? [12:29:19] ---| ---> tcat [9c383a3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.59] has joined #code4lib [12:29:24] edsu | timmcgeary: where is the code that the 6 developers have been working on? [12:29:25] jrochkind | timmcgeary: we are still suspicious of a license based on the ECL which is based on Apache. So many based-on's there, too much reinventing of the legal wheel. [12:29:31] mbklein | BigD: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1596436069 [12:29:34] ---| ---> moabrichard [9c383a21@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.33] has joined #code4lib [12:29:47] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-143-097.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [12:30:08] timmcgeary | jrochkind: I hear you. ECL is part of the OS Initiative. I'm hoping they've thought of the problems [12:30:09] pmurray | jrochkind: I think Apache was working on a revision to their license that actually is ECL. [12:30:13] dbs | timmcgeary: ah, according to http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses incompatible with GPL v2 [12:30:22] dbs | but compatible with GPL v3 [12:30:26] jrochkind | timmcgeary: Are you using ECL, or are you using a license 'based on' ECL? [12:30:32] BigD | I like cary's chicago voice [12:30:46] timmcgeary | edsu: Coding just started Feb 1, 2011 - so I'm assuming the code is in their their internal repo right now [12:30:47] jrochkind | dbs: apache license itself, is it compatible with GPL? [12:30:59] timmcgeary | jrochkind: Using ECL [12:31:01] pberry | Kinda has a Roy Blunt Jr thing going on [12:31:08] jrochkind | timmcgeary: okay, that's pretty reasonable, IMO. [12:31:08] gsf | @karma php [12:31:08] zoia | gsf: Karma for "php" has been increased 2 times and decreased 19 times for a total karma of -17. [12:31:09] akorphan | I SMELL LUNCh [12:31:16] dbs | jrochkind: apache license 2.0 is compatible with GPL v3, not GPL v2 [12:31:19] decasm_ | i smell php [12:31:20] akorphan | lunch++ [12:31:26] timmcgeary | From Kuali side: "The ECLv2 consists of a set of copyright licensing terms that are documented in the ecl2.txt file. The license terms are written in such a way that they can be used by anyone, not just the Kuali Foundation, and can be applied by reference to the versioned license terms." [12:31:27] dbs | again, if you trust the FSF's legal team [12:31:30] danwho | lunch++ [12:31:31] timmcgeary | https://wiki.kuali.org/display/KULFOUND/Applying+the+ECL [12:31:37] MrDys | t-funk [12:31:37] mbklein | scolford: He's got a bit of Matarazzo going on. [12:31:46] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:31:46] edsu | timmcgeary: er, ok ; that waterfall can be a scary ride [12:31:50] akorphan | Where is lunch relative tot his room? [12:31:57] yo_bj | medication_and_lunch++ [12:32:01] jrochkind | dbs: yeah, makes sense. I blame GPL for that, not Apache. But anyway, plenty of us use apache licensed software, and don't blame anyone for using Apache licenses. ECL is a minor tweak of Apache. [12:32:08] mbklein | @tweet I wish I were at #c4l11, but I'm stuck on this damn Linode cluster in Newark. :( [12:32:09] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [12:32:09] pberry | You got php in my template! You got template in my php [12:32:10] jrochkind | Personally I _prefer_ Apache-style licenses to GPL style licenses. [12:32:10] scolford | mbklein: indeed. I was trying to place that presentation style. [12:32:12] edsu | yay, old! [12:32:18] akorphan | i remember per-application drivers. [12:32:19] alxp | oh man, printer drivers. That's badass [12:32:29] BigD | akorphan: The doors to the left will open and lunch will appear. [12:32:38] alxp | rmeembers 20 floppies to install wordperfect, 18 of which were printer drivers [12:32:39] escowles | akorphan: i see tables behind the tech guys at the front of the room [12:32:47] atz | 1200 baud modem init scripts..... [12:32:49] BigD | To the right i mean. [12:32:51] timmcgeary | edsu: That's why we are hiring Kuali OLE core team programmers to take back code. I believe they are going to use Amazon servers, too, and then one partner (likely IU) will host the formal code base [12:32:52] mbklein | scolford: He needs to tell a rambling story about drinking adult beverages in Tokyo though. [12:32:58] jrochkind | But at any rate, ECL has been approved by OSI, it is "open source". [12:32:59] pberry | Old school++ [12:33:07] mbklein | jim_matarazzo++ [12:33:09] akorphan | BigD: That makes more sense. [12:33:10] sesuncedu | There were some copies of NT 3.51 at the NoVa Habitat for Humnity ReStore. [12:33:12] mtomko | mbklein: matarazzo would also refer to people as "chief" [12:33:17] edsu | timmcgeary: how long has the project been active without writing any code? [12:33:34] akorphan | sesuncedu: How much were they asking? [12:33:34] BigD | akorphan: Stage left ;) [12:33:40] mbklein | mtomko: True [12:33:53] edsu | timmcgeary: sorry to give you a hard time, but this project, and kuali's "No Toys" mantra scares me [12:34:03] timmcgeary | edsu: 6-7 months of finalizing design and converting them to functional specs via a Data Architect, Business Analyst, and Config Manager [12:34:04] davidWalker | dinosaurs roamed the earth -> print drivers -> drupal [12:34:08] sesuncedu | akorphan: I think $1 [12:34:09] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-227.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:34:09] ---| User: *** ecorrado___ is now known as ecorrado [12:34:13] * akorphan checks out the hook while the DJ revolves it. [12:34:14] gluejar_ | toys++ [12:34:17] mjg_ | there's just enough room under the doors to slide a hand in and grab a kaiser roll or two. [12:34:19] pberry | Ha [12:34:21] timmcgeary | edsu: I don't think you are giving me a hard time [12:34:24] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [12:34:26] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:34:28] edsu | timmcgeary: ok, good :-) [12:34:35] ---| ---> bertrama_ [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [12:34:36] timmcgeary | This is definitely "no toys" yet [12:34:41] MrDys | @ana I own it [12:34:43] zoia | MrDys: It, wino [12:34:43] sesuncedu | akorphan: I remember the beta of NT, which came on floppies [12:34:54] ---| <<-- malictus [814f2378@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.79.35.120] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [12:34:54] timmcgeary | but I think after OLE 1.0 is released, we'll eagerly encourage toys to be written against it [12:34:57] davidWalker | cary, come back! [12:35:04] mtomko | jon hodgman wrote that some presidents had hooks for hands. [12:35:05] BigD | Royt started drinking scotch -> dinosaurs roamed the earth -> print drivers -> drupal [12:35:07] akorphan | sesuncedu: I think i remember this as well [12:35:10] mbklein | MrDys: That @ana could also be "IT wino," which describes a lot of IT people I know. [12:35:10] pberry | Every time I hear about Drupal development, all i can think is "what could go wrong" [12:35:11] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:35:13] druthb | timmcgeary: As a former system admin, I see a huge amazing pile of moving parts, which is practically guaranteed to give sys admins a *lot* of grey hair, particularly at less-than-enormous institutions. [12:35:19] ---| <<-- rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:35:27] timmcgeary | What I didn't explicitly say today, but has been said (too) many times in the past, is that OLE is re-defining the back end [12:35:27] freqlurker | pberry++ [12:35:28] jtgorman | timmcgeary: sorry to pile on the negatives, but how does 6 months of design work in with agile workflow? [12:35:37] akorphan | sesuncedu: I remember quad-booting a computer into Windows 95, Windows NT, Redhat, and PC-DOS 7. For some sick reason. [12:35:50] mtomko | there will probably still be a lot of exploding. [12:35:51] gluejar_ | jtgorman: it doesn't [12:35:52] jtgorman | timmcgeary: I haven't kept up with agile, so it's a serious question. Is there a camp that's pro-heavy design period [12:35:55] jrochkind | ANYONE that doesn't think edsu is giving them a hard time is lying. edsu gives everyone a hard time. [12:36:04] mjg_ | is it time for the craft beer drink-up yet? [12:36:05] mbklein | BigD: WHO MADE THE SCOTCH?! [12:36:06] * ecorrado wonders what is for lunch [12:36:09] ---| <<-- bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:36:09] druthb | scaling_down_as_well_as_up++ [12:36:10] sesuncedu | jtgorman: scrums can collapse [12:36:15] timmcgeary | store data, move data, open data is the focus [12:36:20] bmljenny | This is making me nostalgic for word perfect 5.1 for DOS, the best software there ever was. [12:36:26] gluejar_ | no software design has ever survived contact with users unscathed [12:36:26] BigD | mbklein: mjgiarlo's mom [12:36:27] mbklein | edsu++ hardtimer [12:36:29] ntra_ | wp51++ [12:36:36] MrDys | hook_boot [12:36:36] freqlurker | wp51++ [12:36:38] pberry | [12:36:40] mbklein | BigD++ # I set 'em up, you knock 'em down. [12:36:45] ---| ---> sethjoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has joined #code4lib [12:36:46] * jtgorman will remain hopefully optimistic about OLE [12:36:50] sesuncedu | edsu work camp songs [12:36:50] akorphan | I fondly recall WordStar [12:36:53] royt | BigD++ [12:36:54] ---| ---> mhagedon [968777eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.150.135.119.235] has joined #code4lib [12:36:55] edsu | mbklein: i guess it's easy to be an @$$hole when you are remote on irc [12:37:00] ---| ---> tracyjo [8030fe22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.48.254.34] has joined #code4lib [12:37:02] mjg_ | royts all the way down [12:37:02] mbklein | 211 users (and ghosts, and orphaned nicks) in channel! [12:37:07] rsinger | "no toys" seems like a fucking awful environment to work in [12:37:09] atz | hook_hook_info_alter [12:37:10] atz | wtf [12:37:13] sesuncedu | edsu: Going to be at the DC SemWeb Meetup? :-P [12:37:17] BigD | Edsu wounded my inner child [12:37:19] jaron1 | rsinger++ [12:37:23] akorphan | I also remember deleting almost everything off of my 40 meg hard drive so I could install Wing Commander 2 [12:37:25] MrDys | drupal has more hooks than a prosthetics office [12:37:25] anarchivist | @quote add < edsu> mbklein: i guess it's easy to be an @$$hole when you are remote on irc [12:37:25] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #2513 added. [12:37:25] timmcgeary | druthb: we hope our work in the early stages eases the administrative for those that follow [12:37:28] ecorrado | is 266 better than 18? [12:37:37] jtgorman | sesuncedu: we don't have any good planning system in place yet really for U of I [12:37:37] mbklein | @rate 266 18 [12:37:38] pmurray | s/18/78/ [12:37:38] pberry | hook_captain_captain_hook [12:37:41] zoia | mbklein: 266: 8.4; 18: 9.0. 18 rocks! [12:37:42] mjg_ | MrDys++ [12:37:43] edsu | sesuncedu: yeah, i think so -- i meant to mention it to you ; they are typically pretty mediocre, but fun to get a beer and chat w/ different people [12:37:44] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS_ [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:37:45] jtgorman | sesuncedu: although we're trying [12:37:47] timmcgeary | jtgorman: We didn't base the first 6 months on Agile [12:37:59] jtgorman | timmcgeary: ah, ok. that makes more sense then [12:38:03] gluejar_ | I think I need to blog about the "no toys" deprecation [12:38:09] ---| ---> dchud [~ecorrado@156-56-58-227.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:38:10] jrochkind | hmm, ECL v2 is hosted on OSI web page, but the actual listing of licenses only includes ECL v1. Probably just a mistake on OSI's part. [12:38:11] edsu | gluejar_: please [12:38:14] timmcgeary | jtgorman: We had a point we knew we had to get to to start Sprint 0 (planning) and split up the work among partners to get use there [12:38:18] charper | Just to play devils advocate, I didn't hear anyone say no-toys today. I heard people say our communities shoudl move beyond toys. Why are these mutually exclusive? [12:38:18] akorphan | ecorrado: It depends on WHICH 18 [12:38:25] scolford | gluejar_: me too. i wish i had time for toys [12:38:28] druthb | timmcgeary: A system that can be downloade and Just Work for a small town college with a thousand students and 30K bibs is a good goal. If you want something more concrete for goals, I'll Creative-Commons that one for you. [12:38:29] ---| User: *** dchud is now known as dchud___ [12:38:30] escowles | @karma toys [12:38:31] jaron1 | gluejar_: that'd be a great [12:38:31] zoia | escowles: Karma for "toys" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. [12:38:40] ejk | php++ [12:38:41] escowles | toys++ [12:38:42] jrochkind | ah, ECL v2 is listed under 'licenses by name', just not 'licenses by category'. Just an editing mistake on their part I think. It's clearly OSI approved. [12:38:44] charper | As other's pointed out - building toys leads to bigger things, right? [12:38:47] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [12:38:51] * akorphan has half a million Legos sitting in boxes that he never has a chance to enjoy. [12:38:53] jaf | btw, the network this year, so far, has overall been pretty darned good [12:38:58] jaf | indiana_network++ [12:38:59] mbklein | @decide drupal or lunch [12:38:59] zoia | mbklein: go with lunch [12:38:59] jtgorman | gluejar_: hopefully no toys != no implementation reference [12:39:00] ---| <<-- gbilder [~gbilder@91.85.207.182] has quit (Quit: gbilder) [12:39:02] ---| <<-- banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:39:05] jrochkind | charper: no, building toys occasionally leads to bigger things. More often it does not. [12:39:06] tshearerlib | it's not the size of your toy, it's how you use it [12:39:08] pberry | lunch++ [12:39:18] jtgorman | jaf: yeah, I agree. Bumpy, but it hasn't gone down yet [12:39:20] timmcgeary | wow - huge network lag now [12:39:20] edsu | charper: trouble is, sometimes people start with the bigger thing, it rarely works well [12:39:23] bmljenny | A certain IT director I know brought a rubber ducky to this meeting. Toys FTW [12:39:28] sesuncedu | charper: sometimes it can; sometimes the toy is not scalable [12:39:30] jtgorman | or at least irc is going ;) [12:39:34] charper | edsu: yeah, that's a very good point. [12:39:35] pmurray | jaf: Yeah, but think about all of the electromagnetic radiation we are absorbing... [12:39:37] scolford | I like Cory. That said, I think I just heard the lunch gong. [12:39:40] BigD | charper: And i heard it as a shot at the DLf [12:39:41] dchud___ | Tap tap tap [12:39:44] ---| ---> wgcowan [8cb69558@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.88] has joined #code4lib [12:39:44] knickum | i'm not entirely sure starting with the bigger thing ever works [12:39:46] mjg_ | step 1: cut a hole in a box [12:39:48] BigD | Meeting 2 hrs ago [12:39:50] rsinger | charper: i think the problem is that by referring to projects as "toys" you've basically painted yourself as a) pretty arrogant and b) not really interested in building on other ideas [12:39:51] decasm_ | i need web scale toys!! [12:39:55] ---| ---> bohyunkim_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:39:55] pberry | You need at least two dusk to make a row [12:39:56] mbklein | sesuncedu: The toy doesn't need to be scalable. The toy just needs to demonstrate something that's worth scaling. [12:39:56] BigD | Damn this keyboard [12:39:57] jaf | pmurray: you are one step closer to becoming your own access point [12:39:58] charper | BigD: yeah, I heard that too. [12:40:01] pberry | Ducks [12:40:03] ranti | who's the gong master here? [12:40:05] jrochkind | decasm: with more enterprise please. [12:40:05] edsu | BigD: didn't he say the same thing at DLF? [12:40:10] gluejar_ | people used to think mysql was a toy. [12:40:10] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [9c383a4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.75] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [12:40:13] romana | sustinance++ [12:40:17] ecorrado | 1:46 left [12:40:22] ---| ---> rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [12:40:22] rsinger | gluejar_: exactly [12:40:22] ---| User: *** bohyunkim_ is now known as bohyunkim [12:40:27] dan64 | does anyone know why there are two themes dirs? [12:40:28] MrDys | rsinger++ [12:40:28] * anarchivist smells pierogies [12:40:30] akorphan | Is this room the seating area for lunch? or is there separate seating? [12:40:34] edsu | gluejar_: yup, and the web [12:40:38] mcdonald5 | are we ready to do a raffle after this speaker? [12:40:39] pmurray | jaf: Just need to shove that uplink where the sun doesn't shine... ;-) [12:40:42] atz | dan64: local and global [12:40:42] charper | rsinger: Huh. I didn't read it as arrogant per se. Only as - can we think larger than bits and pieces... [12:40:43] pberry | gluejar_: Oracle dbas still do [12:40:44] anarchivist | dan64: one is for drupal, one is for the sites [12:40:46] mcdonald5 | lunch is next door in the solarium [12:40:48] sesuncedu | mbklein: It was a big problem with early AI work - the problems were not scalable, and the lessons were not scalable [12:40:50] jstirnaman1 | he said 3 minutes when he started, right? :) [12:40:53] jtgorman | gluejar_: and then they stared using postgres ;) [12:40:56] royt | so what kind of lunch do us streaming users get? [12:40:58] jaf | pmurray: think wireless. wireless. [12:40:59] akorphan | mcdonald5: LUNCH FIRST [12:41:01] morgan8 | root theme dir is default themes included with drupal [12:41:03] anarchivist | royt: liquid lunch [12:41:04] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [12:41:06] mbklein | mcdonald5: Raffles are a good way to get people back in the room AFTER food. :) [12:41:06] * ecorrado meant to say 2:46 earlier [12:41:06] jstirnaman1 | we haven't even seen RAD yet [12:41:08] mjg_ | royt: steamed bits [12:41:08] jrochkind | royt: Food Transfer Protocol [12:41:09] ---| <<-- bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:41:11] alxp | 'replace everything except your sites folder' then you remember you just overwrote your .htaccess file and you cry [12:41:11] gluejar_ | the same people wanted us to move to windows [12:41:13] ---| User: *** bobbiFromOIS_ is now known as bobbiFromOIS [12:41:15] charper | rsinger: I definitely see your point, though. [12:41:18] edsu | jrochkind++ [12:41:18] pmurray | jaf: Ah, so it is wireless all the way down.... [12:41:24] rsinger | but it's pretty easy to never deliver anything because you're making it "enterprise scale" [12:41:25] timmcgeary | Lag killed my IRC - I missed anything to me in past 2 minutes [12:41:26] royt | jrochkind++ [12:41:31] mbklein | alxp: dotfiles don't count. [12:41:35] mjg_ | royt: ingest this bitstream, buddy. [12:41:37] BigD | bmljenny: To be fair, i forgot the rubber ducky was in my pocket. [12:41:39] sesuncedu | @decide wireless sprints or sprint wireless [12:41:39] zoia | sesuncedu: go with wireless sprints [12:41:46] jtgorman | timmcgeary: I was mentioning how good th network was and at least irc was running [12:41:49] ---| ---> mjt0229 [~mjt0229@134.140.246.203] has joined #code4lib [12:41:52] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:41:52] jtgorman | timmcgeary: so clearly I spoke to soon [12:41:52] gluejar_ | linux is another toy that obviously never went anywhere [12:41:52] MrDys | cvs-- [12:41:53] royt | mjg_: so long as it is ferret-less [12:41:54] jrochkind | royt: i'll stuff lunch in my macbook optical drive, let me know when you receive it. we do have some network congestion issues though [12:41:55] pberry | cvs, yikes [12:41:56] timmcgeary | jtgorman++ [12:41:59] ---| <<-- mjt0229 [~mjt0229@134.140.246.203] has quit (Client Quit) [12:41:59] pmurray | 216 people in channel. [12:42:00] edsu | gluejar_++ [12:42:04] ---| <<-- slamm1_ [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has quit () [12:42:04] bmljenny | BigD: Sure sure [12:42:05] dan64 | anarchivist: thanks [12:42:06] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-yxjdafohleziutsi] has quit (Quit: flyingzumwalt) [12:42:07] timmcgeary | @karma [12:42:08] zoia | timmcgeary: Highest karma: "mbklein" (409), "edsu" (382), and "anarchivist" (369). Lowest karma: "iii" (-127), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-16). You (timmcgeary) are ranked 79 out of 2860. [12:42:10] mjg_ | royt: I make no promises. I packed my beardnet in my other pants. [12:42:12] BigD | edsu: I've only been to DLF since rlfrick took over [12:42:14] royt | network indigestion issues? [12:42:21] atz | yeah... looks like CVS $Id [12:42:22] akorphan | MrDys: Are you talking aobut the configuration management system or the drug store? [12:42:25] edsu | gluejar_: perl, python, ruby arguable the same [12:42:26] gluejar_ | forking heck, unix was the best toy of all [12:42:29] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:42:30] rsinger | meanwhile, a "toy" that provides the same I/O that can be swapped out when "enterprise scale solution" is actually farther along than a planning document would help build the other pieces of the ecosystem [12:42:31] knickum | solaris-- [12:42:32] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:42:32] edsu | s/arguable/arguably/ [12:42:37] ---| <<-- jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:42:38] MrDys | akorphan: the source control system that drupal still uses [12:42:40] jstirnaman1 | yep, cvs still [12:42:42] edsu | php [12:42:42] sesuncedu | You can avoid network congestion control problems by using iRODS [12:42:43] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:42:44] anarchivist | not for long [12:42:48] atz | rsinger: well put [12:42:50] jrochkind | "simple" != "toy". [12:42:51] pmurray | CVS? /me shudders [12:42:54] MrDys | not for long? not until drupal 8? [12:42:56] jstirnaman1 | git coming [12:42:58] davidWalker | @hate procedural product [12:43:00] zoia | davidWalker: The operation succeeded. davidWalker hates procedural product. [12:43:02] mbklein | Can't I just `git checkout -b paying_attention` myself so I can then send mbklein/master to lunch? [12:43:04] escowles | cvs-- [12:43:06] * davidWalker looks elsewhere [12:43:09] ranti | *gong* [12:43:12] timmcgeary | first bell - wow! [12:43:12] edsu | ding hehehe [12:43:16] jrochkind | over-engineered super-complex != "enterprise". Well, maybe it does, but that kind of enterprise we don't need. [12:43:18] anarchivist | drupal is migrating to git in two weeks [12:43:19] pmurray | Need a louder ding. [12:43:20] ---| <<-- ntra_ [8cb6fbbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.187] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [12:43:22] BigD | Toldya he'd go on ;). He loves this stuff. [12:43:22] akorphan | @sing they might be giants : dinner bell [12:43:22] jtgorman | mbklein++ [12:43:22] mjg_ | mbklein: don't make me hate you. [12:43:24] zoia | I've been leaving on my things / So in the morning when the morning bird sings / There's still dinner on my dinner jacket / 'Til the dinner bell rings [12:43:26] decasm_ | drupal 8? just wait for perl 6 ... keep waiting. 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Remember to tip your server" [12:43:47] ---| <<-- reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [12:43:48] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-143-097.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:43:51] ---| <<-- fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:43:52] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dlBarth) [12:43:52] ---| <<-- wgcowan [8cb69558@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.88] has quit (Client Quit) [12:43:54] jtgorman | decasm: perl 6 actually now contains all other programming languages and frameworks [12:43:57] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [12:43:59] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ecorrado) [12:43:59] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) [12:44:00] jrochkind | from now on, every presentation must end with "i'll be here all week" [12:44:00] anarchivist | is there anybody out there? i can hear you breathing. 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[13:10:21] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:10:28] eby | The geo has been an often request here. Still need to get better subject/description data to geocode though [13:11:41] rsinger | @weather 37409 [13:11:42] zoia | rsinger: Forecast for Chattanooga, TN: This Afternoon: Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid to upper 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Tonight: Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 20s. Northeast winds 10 mph or less. [13:11:48] rsinger | ugh [13:12:10] eby | @weather 48912 [13:12:12] zoia | eby: Forecast for Lansing, MI: Today: Partly sunny. Scattered flurries until midday. Highs 15 to 20. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill readings as low as minus 12. Tonight: Partly cloudy. A chance of flurries. Lows near zero. West winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Wind chill readings as low as minus 19. [13:12:38] eby | wind_chill-- [13:13:14] ---| <<-- akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:13:23] rsinger | all_chill-- [13:13:36] eby | Chillaxin++ [13:15:33] ---| ---> dericed [~Adium@157.150.192.225] has joined #code4lib [13:17:56] edsu | eby: was thinking it could be a fun experimient with the geo stuff in html(5) http://diveintohtml5.org/geolocation.html [13:18:25] ---| <<-- librarywebchic_ [~androirc@14.sub-174-253-19.myvzw.com] has quit (Quit: AndroIRC) [13:18:43] edsu | eby: http://booksfromhere.com that just returns a list of books about wherever the browser says it is [13:19:46] ---| <<-- acdha [~acdha@pool-151-200-33-191.washdc.btas.verizon.net] has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [13:19:49] edsu | erm, maybe http://booksabouthere.com :-) [13:20:15] edsu | i wonder if ksclarke still owns aboutness.com ... [13:20:28] edsu | @whois aboutness.com [13:20:39] zoia | edsu: Error: timed out [13:21:12] edsu | oh it was .org and it was kevin's friend david fox [13:21:18] * edsu shrugs [13:23:28] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:23:33] ---| ---> demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has joined #code4lib [13:24:17] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:24:43] ---| ---> helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:26:24] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:26:34] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) [13:28:32] csharp | @weather 30345 [13:28:34] zoia | csharp: Forecast for Atlanta, GA: Today: Cloudy in the morning then clearing. Windy. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph. Tonight: Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. North winds up to 10 mph. 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[13:35:26] ---| ---> cwlown_ [~cwlown@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:35:33] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [13:35:38] ---| <<-- cwlown_ [~cwlown@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:35:39] ---| <<-- fresco [~fresco@london.office.mendeley.com] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:35:42] edsu | eby: well just loooking at i wonder if that might be enough http://www.oclc.org/developer/services/mapFAST [13:35:51] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:35:53] edsu | eby: or at least a significant part [13:36:06] rsinger | eby: you should see how many 043s you have [13:36:23] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:37:02] ---| ---> akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has joined #code4lib [13:37:07] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:37:25] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-uqnmytnjexrivxwe] has joined #code4lib [13:37:54] dbs | rsinger: I'm shocked to see we have > 300K 043 $a in our collection [13:38:03] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [13:38:05] ranti | If anybody seen ksclarke and/or scolford, could you let them know to find me? TIA. [13:38:21] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:38:22] rsinger | dbs: wow! [13:38:34] ---| ---> hkm [9c383a68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.104] has joined #code4lib [13:38:41] * dbs wonders if he counted wrong, or how many of them are garbage [13:38:43] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:38:47] * eby would have to fiddle with our full create lists [13:38:51] ---| ---> fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:39:16] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [13:39:19] dericed | weird, contributor is only UNTV unless its blank. Or twice it is DPKO [13:39:30] rsinger | dbs: i wonder how many of those that don't have a 651/6XX$z [13:39:31] ---| ---> nyara [9c383a14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.20] has joined #code4lib [13:39:33] eby | dbs: yeah i would wonder how much of ours is garbage which is why i'd be curious if there is data out there to match up with [13:39:37] dericed | toAll: OOPS! wrong paste [13:39:37] ---| ---> maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:39:39] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: rjhoyle) [13:39:39] ---| ---> ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:39:42] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [13:39:42] zoia | atz JUST ISN'T TRYING HARD ENOUGH. [13:39:57] ecorrado | STP/me now has an iPad timer [13:40:02] ---| ---> MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:18] eby | @quote random [13:40:19] zoia | eby: Quote #1436: " Everybody agreed that semantically ++C would have been even better, but I thought that would create too many problems for non-geeks." (added by gsf at 03:19 PM, June 25, 2008) [13:40:20] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:27] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:30] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:36] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:40:36] ---| ---> dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:45] rsinger | anybody with any experience with rspec around? [13:40:50] ---| ---> julia [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [13:40:51] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:53] ---| User: *** maccabee_ is now known as maccabee [13:40:53] ---| ---> decasm_ [~decasm@156-56-58-30.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:54] dchud | i'm back baby [13:40:57] mbklein | rsinger: Whaddaya need? [13:40:58] atz | i get no rspec [13:40:59] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:41:00] ecorrado | dchud is back! [13:41:02] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:41:03] ---| ---> bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [13:41:13] mbklein | rsinger: I may be able to help, and ndushay will be on momentarily. [13:41:15] ---| User: *** julia is now known as Guest49014 [13:41:19] rsinger | mbklein: i need to test that an enumerable actually has something in it [13:41:21] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:41:25] ---| <<-- Guest49014 [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Client Quit) [13:41:26] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:41:29] dchud | boooooo [13:41:37] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [13:41:43] ---| ---> cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:41:48] ---| ---> julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [13:42:02] ---| ---> fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:42:12] gsf | i never actually streamed the conference video, for the record [13:42:18] akorphan | book giveaway! 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[13:42:36] gsf | ranti++ for the mc [13:42:43] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:42:44] ---| <<-- sciversedev [wltaia@69.41.165.101] has quit (Quit: Chatmosphere - IRC for Blackberry) [13:42:45] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [13:42:49] mbklein | zoia++ [13:42:49] rsinger | i guess i could have a flag get set in the enumerator.each if it matches and test on that [13:42:50] ---| ---> yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has joined #code4lib [13:42:53] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:42:58] anarchivist | @quote random [13:42:58] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #637: " Some people, when confronted with a problem, think I know, I'll use XML. Now they have two problems." (added by mjgiarlo at 05:27 PM, January 17, 2007) [13:43:00] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:00] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:04] akorphan | bishoff are ALMOST those delicious cookies they give you on Delta flights. [13:43:05] MrDys | visiting librarian...don't see that title that often [13:43:05] atz | appropriate that the mobile svcs librarian is "visiting" [13:43:09] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:13] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [13:43:13] gsf | rsinger: hush we're back in session [13:43:16] * ecorrado wishes we had a visiting librarian at Bingo [13:43:19] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:21] mbklein | Illinois OPACs. I *hate* Illinois OPACs. [13:43:22] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [13:43:24] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:30] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [13:43:32] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:33] jtgorman | you' be surprised that it was designed by committee, I'm sure [13:43:34] ejk | Fire up the streamzorz [13:43:34] ---| ---> mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:40] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Client Quit) [13:43:41] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:50] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:43:55] ---| ---> pjb_ [9c383b47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.71] has joined #code4lib [13:43:55] ---| ---> slamm1 [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has joined #code4lib [13:43:55] robcaSSon | mbklein++ [13:43:55] gsf | mobile_as_an_excuse_to_simplify++ [13:44:02] akorphan | what do you mean we? 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To, you know, simplify [13:44:35] ---| <<-- hcayless [~hcayless@99-173-133-217.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net] has quit (Quit: hcayless) [13:44:39] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:44:39] anna3lc | apps-- [13:44:44] pmurray | native_app-- [13:44:50] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:44:53] atz | f the apps. like jason casden said last year. [13:44:59] akorphan | 'app'_as_neologism-- [13:45:09] akorphan | cazzerson++ [13:45:09] ---| ---> masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:45:10] MrDys | didn't ncsu end up making an app anyway? [13:45:15] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [13:45:19] cazzerson | we aren't? [13:45:19] * anarchivist fought the apps and the apps won [13:45:20] jtgorman | jrochkind: to change the main website requires more human sacrifices than our budget allows [13:45:22] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:45:24] ---| <<-- petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:45:27] ranti | no we are not. ;-) [13:45:28] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:45:32] atz | MrDys: yes. but thinly [13:45:34] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:45:36] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:45:36] jrochkind | you make your boss happy by not writing in java? that's a good boss. [13:45:41] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:45:44] ---| <<-- benanderson [9c383b15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.21] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:45:53] ---| ---> sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:45:56] ejk | less cool, more function [13:45:56] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:46:01] akorphan | What is the matrix of icons? [13:46:04] jrochkind | i like this presentation already [13:46:04] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: NoelDiaz) [13:46:13] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:46:14] ---| ---> petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:15] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:15] ejk | yes to one column [13:46:17] MrDys | akorphan: look at the app for duke, stanford, etc. [13:46:17] ---| ---> marduk [~quassel@ip-109-85-211-200.web.vodafone.de] has joined #code4lib [13:46:22] ---| ---> code4lib [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:22] ---| <<-- code4lib [~riehlemt@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:46:25] akorphan | MrDys: Joking. [13:46:32] ecorrado | only ine column for webapp [13:46:34] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Baroquem) [13:46:35] atz | g1 seems to support everything... [13:46:37] ecorrado | one [13:46:38] ---| ---> kirkhess [8cb69710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.151.16] has joined #code4lib [13:46:41] ---| ---> sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has joined #code4lib [13:46:43] ---| User: *** marduk is now known as Guest89155 [13:46:44] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:46:45] gsf | designing_for_dumb_phones-- [13:46:47] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:49] ---| ---> code4lib [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:50] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:51] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [13:46:54] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:46:55] ---| ---> iPat [~iPat@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [13:46:56] atz | there's the ncstate app [13:46:59] jrochkind | why does illinois university have a title that says 'digg'? [13:47:03] akorphan | atz: It's a website. [13:47:07] ecorrado | #weather 13760 [13:47:07] ---| ---> dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:08] atz | exactly [13:47:12] MrDys | jrochkind: it was digg [13:47:17] * gsf still likes http://m.library.oregonstate.edu/ [13:47:24] ---| ---> sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has joined #code4lib [13:47:24] mbklein | gsf: They should just design the site to be *used* by my phone. It's smarter than I am. [13:47:29] jtgorman | jrochkind: those were examples of other mobile sites that inspired them [13:47:31] ---| <<-- milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:47:32] iPat | Grrrr, iPad just can't get any pipe [13:47:35] mbklein | griggsk++ [13:47:36] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:47:36] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:47:38] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:38] ---| <<-- code4lib [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:47:39] akorphan | iPad-- [13:47:41] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:42] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:43] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:43] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:47:44] ---| User: *** cbeer_ is now known as cbeer [13:47:45] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:46] ---| <--- Guest89155 [~quassel@ip-109-85-211-200.web.vodafone.de] has left #code4lib () [13:47:47] ---| ---> anarchivist1 [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:47] MrDys | I do like OSU's mobile site [13:47:51] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:47:53] ---| <<-- jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:47:54] ---| ---> erikhatcher_ [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:54] akorphan | information_architecture++ [13:47:55] ---| ---> code4lib [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:47:56] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [13:47:59] ---| ---> ccurry1 [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:00] ---| ---> cazzerson_ [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:01] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:48:03] ---| ---> scolford_also [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:03] gsf | mbklein: my phone does all my coding for me [13:48:06] ---| User: *** anarchivist1 is now known as anarchivist [13:48:08] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [13:48:08] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [13:48:08] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [13:48:08] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:13] ---| ---> kirkhess_ [8cb69710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.151.16] has joined #code4lib [13:48:13] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:14] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:48:22] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:48:23] akorphan | live_demos+- [13:48:27] ---| ---> gszxcv_ [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [13:48:28] ---| <<-- dchud___ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-227.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:48:29] ---| ---> ecorrado__ [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:48:30] ranti | ksclarke: we can haz book raffle before the break? [13:48:31] ejk | skinny_firefox+- [13:48:32] mbklein | gsf: Oh yeah? Well, *my* phone raises my children for me! [13:48:39] mtomko | can he make that website grail-shaped? 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Nice [13:48:58] MrDys | it took me only an hour to make the jhu mobile site (http://www.library.jhu.edu/mobile/mobile.html) iUI++ [13:49:00] knickum | mbklein: can your phone raise my children? [13:49:10] mbklein | All: If you're having trouble getting/staying connected to freenode, try port 8000 instead of the default 6667. [13:49:12] anna3lc | test [13:49:16] ---| ---> scotthanrath_ [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:49:19] ---| <<-- pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:49:24] mbklein | anna3lc: pong [13:49:26] MrDys | gross. 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[13:49:53] ---| ---> cazzerson__ [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:49:53] MrDys | that's just wrong [13:49:56] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:50:00] lbjay | i'm so ashamed of how much raw code i'm about to show [13:50:00] atz | ranti: i think so [13:50:04] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:50:04] ---| <<-- code4lib [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:50:04] ---| User: *** cazzerson__ is now known as cazzerson [13:50:06] gsf | mbklein: iBabysitter [13:50:06] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:50:07] jrochkind | MrDys: that's very much like our website. [13:50:08] mbklein | scolford++ ranti++ ksclarke++ [13:50:12] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [13:50:15] MrDys | jrochkind: don't think that I don't know that [13:50:19] ---| <<-- pjb_ [9c383b47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.71] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:50:19] ---| <<-- jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:50:20] skoczko | it's actually really lovely - you can use Ctrl+F to search the site [13:50:20] ---| ---> Altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:50:22] MrDys | I'm just saying that they didn't need to test for that [13:50:23] paulalbert | What's the URL for this page? [13:50:28] ejk | uh-oh, stream fail... 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I'll talk with Chanitra re: the books [13:50:53] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:50:55] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:50:57] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@conference/code4lib/x-qkljibsowjxdnboh] has joined #code4lib [13:50:59] gluejar | I like the "open now" choice [13:51:01] jtgorman | the mapping is actually really impressive [13:51:02] mbklein | gsf: I was just going to let the kids be raised by TV like I was, but then I realized that would leave me unable to watch the TV. Ergo, phone. 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[13:51:41] eefcee | but I want the hours of the library I am near, location service [13:51:46] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:51:46] ---| User: *** cbeer_ is now known as cbeer [13:51:51] scolford | ranti: awesome. i am at your disposal whenever you need me. [13:51:55] gsf | lbjay: why don't you watch it and find out [13:51:59] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:52:00] julia_ | lbjay: It switches. Sometimes on the podium, sometimes on the slides. [13:52:01] mbklein | gsf-- [13:52:06] lbjay | gsf-- # encouraging bad behavior [13:52:11] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:52:11] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:52:13] ---| <<-- cazzerson_ [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:52:16] mbklein | gsf: ENABLER [13:52:18] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:52:19] ---| ---> fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:52:19] ---| <<-- kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:52:21] ---| <<-- mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:52:23] gluejar | this is a great toy! [13:52:24] ---| <<-- ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:52:24] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:52:25] lbjay | so not a good idea to do my hans rosling act? [13:52:26] MrDys | I learned it by watching you, gsf [13:52:27] atz | lat/lon++ [13:52:31] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:52:34] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [13:52:35] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:52:43] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Quit: BitchX-1.0c16 -- just do it.) [13:52:49] mbklein | MrDys++ [13:52:54] gsf | is this mobile site web scale? [13:52:59] atz | what? you used logs? 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[13:53:22] ---| ---> pjb_ [9c383b47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.71] has joined #code4lib [13:53:23] ---| <<-- dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [13:53:25] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:53:25] ---| ---> BillDueber_ [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:53:26] jrochkind | so why don't they do that have a yes/no next to each library? [13:53:27] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:53:38] atz | color coding would work too [13:53:39] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:53:41] ---| ---> nabeta_ [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:53:41] pberry | Click here will never die [13:53:41] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:53:46] lbjay | MrDys: yeah, i heard there are mic issues if you're not speaking directly into the podium [13:53:49] tokeee | libraries_open_now_and_at_least_one_hour_from_now++ [13:53:52] pberry | It's like a zombie... [13:53:54] akorphan | pberry: They're not even "clicking" on a mobile device.... [13:53:55] skoczko | parsing opening hours -- that should quite doable by the udnergrads [13:53:57] mbklein | click_here-- [13:54:00] lbjay | with the stream at least [13:54:03] atz | pberry: actually, i don't see "click here" lasting another generation [13:54:05] pberry | Bad touch here [13:54:06] jrochkind | hmm, if you had an hours with 'open now' have to make sure you hae a way to over-ride for weather or other unexpected closings. [13:54:11] lbjay | pberry++ [13:54:14] gsf | lbjay: that's a lectern [13:54:18] akorphan | @sing Bloodhound Gang : The Bad Touch [13:54:20] gsf | lbjay: he's standing on the podium [13:54:23] lbjay | gsf: fu [13:54:23] julia_ | lbjay: The sounds is really pretty good, but yeah, stepping too far back from the mike isn't a good plan. 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[13:54:40] ejk | Show me on the phone where you clicked here [13:54:41] ---| <<-- BillDueber_ [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:54:43] jtgorman | vufind via CARLI forked and hasn't really been doing anything to update it ... [13:54:44] gsf | lbjay: kung [13:54:44] mjg_1 | "Touch here" sounds creepy. [13:54:46] atz | bummers... [13:54:48] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:54:50] mbklein | pberry++ [13:54:50] davidWalker | @eightball are there any non-forked VUFinds ? [13:54:51] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:54:51] zoia | davidWalker: About as likely as pigs flying. [13:54:52] ---| ---> fumi_ [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:54:52] zoia | I've got a coke in my pocket *and* I'm happy to see you. [13:54:53] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [13:54:56] ecorrado | jrochkind: is there an unforked VUfind? [13:54:58] pberry | Now he has two problems [13:55:00] jrochkind | he's screen-scraping his own vufind? seriously? [13:55:04] akorphan | mjg_1: What about just a link that says "Libraries Open Now" [13:55:08] ---| <<-- dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:55:11] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:55:12] akorphan | The interface should make it clear that it's touch/clickable [13:55:16] BillDueber | jrochkind: No, he's not. [13:55:16] mbklein | Links are nouns, not verbs. [13:55:19] ---| ---> tholbroo [~tholbroo@hs72260.lib.sfu.ca] has joined #code4lib [13:55:21] mjg_ | akorphan: less creepy. [13:55:22] jtgorman | jrochkind: it's not ours, it's the consortium [13:55:24] jrochkind | BillDueber: what was he saying about regular expressions? [13:55:25] gsf | ooh vufind slam [13:55:31] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [13:55:32] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [13:55:32] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:55:33] lbjay | gsf: i could start throwing things at your head really easy [13:55:34] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-uqnmytnjexrivxwe] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:55:35] ---| <<-- yegusa_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:55:35] ---| ---> ndushay1 [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:55:36] ---| <<-- banu1 [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:55:38] ---| ---> code4lib [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:55:39] ---| ---> Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:55:39] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:55:40] ---| ---> scotthanrath_ [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:55:41] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@conference/code4lib/x-qkljibsowjxdnboh] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:55:45] jtgorman | jrochkind: and there's some bad blood about this, but basically the consortium isn't improving it but not giving any members access to improve it [13:55:45] gsf | can't wait for the retaliation from demian [13:55:46] mbklein | Buttons and other controls are verbs. [13:55:47] BillDueber | Wait, really? He's scraping it??? [13:55:48] ---| <<-- gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:55:48] mjg_ | @karma anchor_tag_fundamentalism [13:55:49] zoia | mjg_: anchor_tag_fundamentalism has neutral karma. 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[13:56:10] BillDueber | CARLI-- [13:56:11] ---| ---> jlhardes_ [8cb69428@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.40] has joined #code4lib [13:56:13] decasm_ | i need a dialing wand [13:56:16] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:56:17] jrochkind | BillDueber: i dunno, it went by too quick. something about regexps. [13:56:23] atz | (like me trying to use phone gestures w/ my gloves on) [13:56:24] escowles | scraping is just a dirty word for proxying [13:56:24] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:56:25] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@108.98.5.97] has joined #code4lib [13:56:26] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:56:26] ---| User: *** fumi_ is now known as fumi [13:56:28] pberry | WE'LL DO IT LIVE [13:56:28] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:56:29] dchud_ | net keeps dropping and readding. you must be this tall to ride... 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[13:56:40] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:56:44] lbjay | infinite_jest++ [13:56:44] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:56:47] jtgorman | I tried to give them a few patches a while ago and they never incorporated them [13:56:48] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:56:49] atz | "click for details".... but click WHERE? [13:56:49] ---| User: *** scotthanrath_ is now known as scotthanrath [13:56:51] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:56:55] mjg_ | CARLI's so vain. 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[13:57:07] MrDys | mjg_++ [13:57:08] lbjay | tho too many people reading it just because the dude offed himself i fear [13:57:11] gsf | mbklein: yeah it's kinda weird [13:57:12] ---| <<-- fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:57:16] gsf | @damlev damien demian [13:57:16] zoia | gsf: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "damien" and "demian" is 2. [13:57:16] atz | mjg_: you probably think this HTTP GET request is about you. [13:57:20] BillDueber | mjg_: Mick Jagger is going to join him on stage any second [13:57:21] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:57:22] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:57:23] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:57:26] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:57:28] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [13:57:28] zoia | mbklein has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace. [13:57:28] mcdonald1 | so is everyone getting thrown off the network now? I have moved to sprint service [13:57:31] ---| ---> jaf_ [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:57:31] * mjg_ snorts [13:57:32] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:57:33] ---| <<-- jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:57:33] ---| User: *** jaf_ is now known as jaf [13:57:34] * zoia sobs [13:57:34] MrDys | gross gross grossness [13:57:34] ndushay1 | mcdonald1: yes. [13:57:34] jrochkind | BillDueber: kinda looks like screen-scraping, huh? 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[13:58:04] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #2514 added. [13:58:09] mcdonald1 | yeah - well before lunch we had 177 devices on 1 ap [13:58:12] jeff | decasm_: dialing wand? how about a bus pass wand? http://imgur.com/L4dVZ [13:58:13] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Disconnected by services) [13:58:13] ---| User: *** bshum_ is now known as bshum [13:58:17] pmurray | mcdonald1: Both -G and -N are spotty for me now, but -G seems to be behaving better. [13:58:18] davidWalker | adobe-- [13:58:18] lbjay | mjg_: i gotcher new face right here [13:58:31] pberry | Ouch [13:58:35] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:58:35] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [13:58:37] ---| ---> gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:58:40] mbklein | mcdonald1 did say they were adding capacity, so let's see how it goes. [13:58:45] ---| User: *** tzhaya_ is now known as tzhaya [13:58:45] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:58:46] mjg_ | lbjay: are you wearing your a-hole face today? [13:58:50] ranti | Books are displayed next to scolford. [13:58:50] * pmurray channels Adam Sandler: "Well, there's your problem!" [13:58:55] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [13:58:59] jrochkind | was it an enterprise bus provider? [13:59:02] mbklein | My friend Arlo invented Konfabulator. [13:59:03] dchud_ | haven't thought about confabulator in a long while [13:59:04] ---| <<-- dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:59:04] ---| <<-- gszxcv_ [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:59:09] mbklein | konfabulator++ [13:59:10] dlBarth_ | i'm seeing more APs on G than on N, which may explain some things [13:59:22] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:59:27] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:59:32] robcaSSon | @provide weed bus [13:59:33] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:59:33] zoia | robcaSSon: nm, too much hate too quickly [13:59:34] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [13:59:38] mbklein | Arlo has a very nice house in Mountain View thanks to the $$$ Yahoo! paid for Konfabulator. [13:59:45] lbjay | mjg_: i got my rowing face on: https://s-hphotos-snc4.fbcdn.net/hs104.snc4/35539_428885877791_625867791_5649228_131704_n.jpg [14:00:06] helrond | my friend Arlo invented Alice's Restaurant [14:00:10] gsf | they look to the library for information? crazy [14:00:25] dchud | helrond: i thought alice and her restaurant were real? [14:00:26] atz | fun codes!? [14:00:28] MrDys | ah, yes indeed it's FUN time [14:00:29] gsf | @damlev voyager fun [14:00:29] zoia | gsf: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "voyager" and "fun" is 7. [14:00:35] ---| ---> banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:00:38] jtgorman | ok, maybe it's good my connection dropped out when people saw the interface [14:00:39] atz | weeeeeeeeeeee [14:00:39] pberry | gsf: Like what's on the lunch menu? [14:00:39] ranti | ... [14:00:42] jrochkind | an academic library that does dewey, cool. 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[14:01:36] jtgorman | jrochkind: probably library of congress [14:01:44] BigD1 | i want a cookie [14:01:47] davidWalker | @who is the next guy to bring down the library infrastructure? [14:01:47] zoia | fordmadox is the next guy to bring down the library infrastructure. [14:01:51] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: erikhatcher) [14:01:55] mjg_ | the next theater in the Global War on Tera will be in WURFLstan [14:02:01] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:02:03] mbklein | mjg_++ [14:02:12] julia_ | Somebody hand the questioner a mic! [14:02:12] helrond | mjg_ ++ [14:02:14] ---| ---> ntra [8cb6fbbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.187] has joined #code4lib [14:02:20] * jtgorman is glad though the virtual bookshelf allowed Josh to hook in pretty easily. That's it was mostly entertained [14:02:26] ---| <<-- gugek [~schen@login1.oit.duke.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:02:26] ---| ---> ddawg [9c383aa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.163] has joined #code4lib [14:02:27] ---| ---> sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has joined #code4lib [14:02:34] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@mobile-166-137-141-123.mycingular.net] has quit (Disconnected by services) [14:02:38] ---| User: *** BigD1 is now known as BigD [14:02:44] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [14:02:50] mjg_ | tweetdeck-- [14:02:57] ---| ---> gugek [~schen@login1.oit.duke.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:03:00] jtgorman | s/entertained/meant for/ [14:03:11] ---| ---> grk2me [~chatzilla@156-56-58-73.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:03:12] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [14:03:19] atz | i'm betting Illinois business or athletics has a mobile presentation [14:03:25] anna3lc | nice site [14:03:28] jtgorman | I wish we had campus suport for the geo stuff [14:03:33] mbklein | Anyone know if Josh Bishoff is any kin to digital preservationist Liz Bishoff? [14:03:34] ---| ---> danwho [IceChat7@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:03:37] mjg_ new_faces_that_aren't_lbjay's++ [14:03:52] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:03:57] bmljenny | Love the geo stuff, we could get the coordinate data pretty easily with a gps. [14:04:04] mbklein new_hats_that_aren't_lbjay's++ [14:04:05] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:10] eligerman | mbklein: nope, not related [14:04:13] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:14] ejk | Rapid Open Source Development = use git [14:04:22] jstirnaman | slaughtering_presenter's_last_name-- [14:04:23] ---| ---> romana [8cb6f8ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.171] has joined #code4lib [14:04:23] jtgorman | bmljenny: yeah, it baffles me why no one on our campus level hasn't done that. Josh had to do that himself [14:04:27] ---| <<-- ccurry1 [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:04:29] helrond | windows -- [14:04:30] decasm_ | ultra-rapid is not fast enough [14:04:33] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:35] atz | http://campustechnology.com/articles/2009/07/29/going-mobile-university-of-illinois-delivers-its-portal-to-mobile-users.aspx [14:04:37] davidWalker | web services manager! [14:04:47] ---| ---> dan64_ [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:50] mbklein | questionable_taste++ [14:04:51] dchud | he's reading this isn't he. [14:04:54] gsf | haze_of_git_pushes++ [14:04:56] ---| <<-- dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:04:56] ---| User: *** dan64_ is now known as dan64 [14:04:57] * ecorrado spent his summer vacation in Romania [14:04:58] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:04:58] pberry | Mostly [14:04:59] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:04:59] ---| <<-- scolford_also [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:04:59] edsu | :-) [14:05:07] atz | http://illinois.edu/mobile/ [14:05:10] BigD | aw, that's how mjg_ and I came up wit CURATEcamp! [14:05:10] pberry | It's okay though [14:05:14] ---| ---> asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:05:15] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:05:17] mjg_ | ♥ [14:05:28] dchud | if this is how he spent his vacation he apparently was drinking in the back :) [14:05:28] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:05:28] ---| User: *** asnagy_ is now known as asnagy [14:05:30] MrDys | BigD: awwww why don't you sit right next to one another [14:05:34] pberry | Writing it down means not winging it [14:05:52] atz | zotero still developed? [14:05:54] jrochkind | reading.written.lecture-- [14:05:56] ndushay1 | the network is insufficient [14:05:57] BigD | MrDys: jealous of our manlove [14:06:09] BigD | bromance? [14:06:14] ---| ---> hkm [9c383a68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.104] has joined #code4lib [14:06:14] lbjay | @sing nick winters [14:06:17] zoia | lbjay: No songs found by nick winters [14:06:18] pmurray | atz: Yeah -- Zotero is still under active development. 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[14:06:56] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:06:56] mjg_ | 1W1T is an interesting model [14:06:59] ---| <<-- mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:06:59] ---| <<-- nyara [9c383a14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.20] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:07:05] gluejar | oh boy, this is about anthologize!! [14:07:06] mjg_ | to switch tracks from style to substance a bit [14:07:13] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:07:14] maccabee | if your written talk includes cylon jokes, read away! [14:07:18] gsf | ha [14:07:19] mjg_ | cazzerson++ [14:07:19] atz | pmurray: thx [14:07:20] mbklein | cazzerson++ [14:07:22] jrochkind | glad that there's no bitterness [14:07:23] rsinger | @fight "Tera-WURFL" "Danny Wuerffel" [14:07:24] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:07:24] zoia | rsinger: Danny Wuerffel: 4990, Tera-WURFL: 942 [14:07:34] ---| ---> dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has joined #code4lib [14:07:38] ndushay1 | cylons: collect all the models! 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[14:08:54] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:08:56] ndushay1 | people: do NOT stream video during the sessions! 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[14:10:08] atz | yeah, *this* is actual agile programming, not Agile Development(TM) [14:10:13] mbklein | jrochkind: Here, I'll point my iSight at the monitor so you can watch my streaming video of the streaming video of the presenter. [14:10:14] jtgorman | sesuncedu: uh, I found a tool that does that [14:10:23] druthb | atz++ [14:10:27] sesuncedu | jtgorman: is it mjg? [14:10:31] jtgorman | sesuncedu: webcamstudio [14:10:36] jrochkind | mbklein: perfect! 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[14:11:16] jtgorman | sesuncedu: sorry. Instead we should just get someone who will hold their ipad next to the camera [14:11:35] ---| ---> timmcgeary [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:11:39] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:11:39] ---| User: *** NoelDiaz_ is now known as NoelDiaz [14:11:39] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~robcasson@mobile-166-137-142-180.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) [14:11:48] sesuncedu | stream video of ndushay delivering a beatdown :-P [14:11:55] ---| <<-- jstirnaman2 [~yaaic@173-140-227-44.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:11:57] timmcgeary | yeah! I got on here via Adium [14:11:57] gluejar | edsu: 52 weeks, 52 tools? 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[14:12:23] dbs | edsu++ gluejar++ [14:12:25] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:12:26] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:12:26] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [14:12:27] pberry | Call techcrunch [14:12:29] julia_ | ndushay++ [14:12:32] ---| <<-- charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:12:32] ndushay1 | tools --> geeks [14:12:48] ---| ---> jstirnaman2 [~yaaic@173-140-227-44.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #code4lib [14:12:48] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:13:14] ---| ---> mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:13:19] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:13:21] gluejar | 4 user interviews! in one week! 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[14:14:14] anarchivist1 | balsamiq++ [14:14:15] ranti | jtgorman: it says "my Great Project" on it. [14:14:15] pberry | That's a lot of MacBooks [14:14:17] sibylschaefer | what program were those wireframes done in? [14:14:22] freqlurker | stunning indeed [14:14:24] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:14:25] sesuncedu | gluejar: IRB approval not needed [14:14:29] ---| <<-- pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:14:30] ---| <<-- code4lib [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:14:34] ---| ---> schemer [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has joined #code4lib [14:14:34] ---| ---> asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:14:35] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:14:37] debweb | nyara: hello [14:14:38] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [14:14:40] freqlurker | art, really [14:14:46] mbklein | "Powered by TAB and Mountain Dew" [14:14:47] ---| ---> NoelDiaz_ [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:14:48] ---| <<-- dericed [~Adium@157.150.192.225] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:14:49] gsf | jrochkind: you think the journal might look at this again if we get a tech lead? [14:14:51] edsu | jumping through tubes would be prefectly acceptable though [14:14:52] ---| ---> anna3lc__ [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:14:56] anna3lc__ | does it only work on wordpress blogs? [14:14:58] cazzerson | sibylschaefer: balsamiq [14:14:58] ranti | I keep hearing it as "apologize" [14:14:59] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:14:59] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:15:00] mjg_ | who's gonna code up Twanthologize? 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[14:15:11] pberry | anna3lc__: I run some [14:15:11] sesuncedu | Never anthologize, never explain [14:15:13] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:15:14] anarchivist | anna3lc__: well, it's a wordpress plugin [14:15:16] ---| ---> scotthanrath_ [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:15:16] julia_ | anna3lc: I think that's true, yes. [14:15:17] lbjay | lag-- [14:15:23] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [14:15:25] anarchivist | anna3lc__: but you can import feeds from anywhere [14:15:29] helrond | mjg_: Twangthologize [14:15:41] anarchivist | @ana thongthologize [14:15:42] tokeee | Website says "Please note that at this time Anthologize cannot be installed on blogs hosted at WordPress.com" [14:15:42] zoia | anarchivist: Hog log to zenith [14:15:50] ---| <<-- anarchivist1 [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:15:51] ---| <<-- Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:15:58] dchud | he's looking up a lot more now as he speaks and it sounds more natural. [14:15:58] mjg_ | @Anthongogize royt [14:15:59] zoia | mjg_: i'll brb, i just need to tweet about how i hate getting questions like that [14:16:02] dchud | that++ [14:16:03] ---| <<-- scolford_also [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:16:08] jrochkind | tokeee: that is true of just about any WP plugin, except the small set wordpress.com chooses to support. [14:16:09] ---| <<-- joshbishoff [9c383b4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.76] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:16:13] gsf | tokeee: could be a good question as to why that is [14:16:14] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:16:16] MrDys | heh membase and couchdb have merged: http://www.membase.com/merger [14:16:20] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:16:22] ejk | WP.com++ [14:16:27] ---| ---> mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:16:33] ---| User: *** asnagy_ is now known as asnagy [14:16:33] freqlurker | Did he say how large the team was? [14:16:35] fontanka | win office 101 for mac users: Press f5 to start powerpoint presentation [14:16:35] pmurray | TEI++ [14:16:41] ---| ---> benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [14:16:41] mjg_ | couchbase? sounds like my social life in college. [14:16:42] ---| <<-- ndushay1 [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:16:43] gsf | jrochkind: oh right, true [14:16:49] anarchivist | https://gist.github.com/raw/7aa5bcd88ccc0858a431/mislav.gif [14:16:55] gsf | mjg++ [14:16:56] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: morgan8) [14:16:57] gluejar | freqlurker: 12 [14:16:59] tokeee | jrochkind: Fair enough I guess. Still limiting though [14:17:03] ranti | mjg++ [14:17:05] gsf | MrDys: yeah i saw that [14:17:08] sesuncedu | Isn't GMU starting doing omeka hosting? [14:17:10] ---| ---> epalm [~epalm@TOROON12-1178068039.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #code4lib [14:17:21] anarchivist | sesuncedu: already started iirc [14:17:22] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:17:23] mjg_ | sesuncedu: I believe so, yes [14:17:28] ---| <<-- sciversedev [nxlnjc@69.41.165.101] has quit (Client Quit) [14:17:29] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:17:29] ---| User: *** NoelDiaz_ is now known as NoelDiaz [14:17:32] wickr | sesuncedu: yeah, omeka.net [14:17:33] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:17:36] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:17:37] akorphan | That's a nice font. [14:17:38] gsf | MrDys: i hope it doesn't mean couchdb gets eaten by membase [14:17:44] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:17:45] pberry | This is quite impressive [14:17:49] ---| <<-- KingNightWolf [a6d9de52@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.217.222.82] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:18:00] akorphan | Oh, it's one of those Goudy clones. [14:18:04] mbklein | MrDys: What's the difference between CouchDB (which is continuing as an Apache OSS project) and CouchOne (which is merging with MemBase)? [14:18:06] bmljenny | Motherformatter! [14:18:10] * epalm waves at mjg_ / dchud [14:18:10] mjg_ | maybe CURATEcamp could support some 1W1T-like efforts. [14:18:11] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:18:14] gsf | hey that spike's in utah! [14:18:17] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [14:18:21] pberry | Mixed metaphor alert! [14:18:36] MrDys | mbklein: they seem to tout mobile app dev capabilities in couchone [14:18:39] ---| <<-- ddawg [9c383aa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.163] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:18:41] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:18:41] ---| <<-- gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:18:41] mjg_ | epalm: hey! [14:18:42] atz | that's awesome [14:18:43] sesuncedu | But moved to LA for final season [14:18:44] ---| ---> pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:45] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [14:18:46] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:47] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:48] ---| ---> milkya_ [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:49] ---| ---> code4lib_ [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:49] ---| ---> Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:49] BigD | mjg_ yeah, i like that! [14:18:50] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:50] davidWalker | awesome [14:18:51] was | big_git_merge_in_a_bar++ [14:18:52] ---| <<-- scotthanrath_ [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:19:00] atz | 1:30AM git in a bar [14:19:00] gsf | dvcs++ [14:19:01] ---| <<-- jjsteele [82a08ca1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.160.140.161] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:19:02] tokeee | git++ [14:19:03] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:19:03] ---| User: *** Baroquem_ is now known as Baroquem [14:19:05] ---| ---> NoelDiaz_ [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:19:07] edsu | trust == too drunk to care [14:19:07] pberry | Madness indeed [14:19:07] anarchivist | sheeeeeeeeeeeeit [14:19:08] mjg_ | git++ [14:19:11] atz | git++ [14:19:12] ---| ---> asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:19:13] BigD | what could a team get done in a month? [14:19:15] epalm | hg++ [14:19:18] mbklein | "We'll be using the one-shot-per-commit methodology..." [14:19:21] epalm | missing the conf, i think... [14:19:21] epalm | i don't work in a library any more, that means i can't come right? :) [14:19:24] ---| <--- debweb [~debweb@c-76-21-213-241.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has left #code4lib () [14:19:31] eby | mbklein: bunch of companies doing clustering addons and other stuff for couch [14:19:37] ejk | git ++ [14:19:37] eby | mbklein: cloudant is another one [14:19:38] mjg_ | epalm: nope. [14:19:40] ejk | git++ [14:19:45] gsf | edsu: does that describe a lot of moments in your life? [14:19:48] dchud | tilt your macbook left and right while looking at google.com logo image [14:19:51] ---| ---> jbattles [82a08ca1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.160.140.161] has joined #code4lib [14:19:54] ---| ---> gsnyder [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [14:19:54] sesuncedu | One revert per shot [14:19:57] ---| ---> mbach [9c383b0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.11] has joined #code4lib [14:19:57] akorphan | Is anyone else's intertubes clogged? [14:20:00] davidWalker | coding as self-help process [14:20:00] mjg_ | epalm: but never come again when the U.S. loses to Canada in the Olympics. [14:20:02] lbjay | wish i hadn't forgot to pack a razor [14:20:07] epalm | harr [14:20:08] mjg_ | lbjay: JOIN US [14:20:08] edsu | gsf: i'm not sure i really care when i'm sober :-) [14:20:13] lbjay | stubble-- [14:20:17] mbklein | mjg_: I don't know if 1W1T would work for CURATEcamp. I'm pretty sure I saw more than one tool there. [14:20:19] BillDueber | gsf: He's always drunk, just not always trusting. [14:20:21] epalm | that was fun [14:20:24] atz | predication on cheerfulness.... makes me skeptical [14:20:24] jrochkind | barely any internet, eh? [14:20:28] sesuncedu | 1 day one microservice [14:20:32] anarchivist | boone++ [14:20:33] mjg_ | mbklein: heh heh heh. [14:20:45] mjg_ | "goddish" [14:20:48] akorphan | lbjay: ask at the lobby desk? [14:20:53] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:20:54] ---| <--- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [14:20:55] sesuncedu | godlike [14:20:58] epalm | mjg_: did you glean any kind of satisfaction watching our juniors fold like a bad poker hand, recently? [14:20:59] sesuncedu | KMFContentDM [14:21:00] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:21:01] benanderson | I just bought 24 hours of attwifi - seems to be working well so far. [14:21:05] lbjay | akorphan: too late. i'm up talk after next [14:21:10] gsf | lbjay: beeeeeeeards [14:21:12] anarchivist | jaf: boone does a better michael mcdonald impression than i do [14:21:12] pmurray | dchud: That's pretty cool... 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[14:22:15] jaf | anarchivist: let's get a video of his impersonation, and then we can put up both and take a vote :) [14:22:23] timmcgeary | Anyone want to watch "Inception" tonight after some drinks at the hosp suite? [14:22:24] ---| <<-- tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:22:29] lbjay | &gong; ? [14:22:31] anarchivist | "the million michael mcdonald march" [14:22:33] ecorrado | day_jobs-- [14:22:33] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:22:35] ---| ---> anna3lc__ [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:22:36] akorphan | day jobs, schmay jobs. [14:22:37] epalm | dchud: started using django a couple months ago. wasn't your mini-talk at the end about django? and i did kohana. [14:22:38] mjg_ | anarchivist: have any place in mind? can we hire grad students to carry our beer? 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[14:23:00] sesuncedu | mjg: Do you pay for travel [14:23:00] lbjay | github_link_on_final_slide++ [14:23:09] dchud | epalm: oh yeah? last year you mean? yeah... how's it coming? [14:23:13] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:23:13] ---| <<-- cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:23:14] ---| ---> cwlown1 [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:23:22] ecorrado | @rate "day job" "drinking beer" [14:23:24] timmcgeary | akorphan: I haven't watched it yet, so you have to wait until it's over [14:23:25] zoia | ecorrado: day job: 2.8; drinking beer: 9.3. day job sucks! drinking beer rocks! 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[14:24:26] ---| <<-- asnagy_ [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:24:27] ---| ---> rajnb_ [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [14:24:42] ---| ---> ntra [8cb6fbbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.187] has joined #code4lib [14:24:45] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:24:46] ---| <--- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [14:24:48] gsf | scotthanrath++ [14:24:56] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:25:05] pberry | @karma marc [14:25:05] dchud | no, no, that wouldn't be going too far. [14:25:06] zoia | pberry: Karma for "marc" has been increased 0 times and decreased 8 times for a total karma of -8. [14:25:10] ecorrado | Katz's_wife++ [14:25:12] druthb | going_too_far++ [14:25:15] pberry | Yikes [14:25:19] BillDueber | "But that's going a bit too far, don't you think?" "Indubitably!" [14:25:19] timmcgeary | marky_mark++ [14:25:22] dchud | it's a forechannel! [14:25:30] pmurray | acknowledging_the_backchannel++ [14:25:33] ---| ---> diplomatica [9802a68a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.2.166.138] has joined #code4lib [14:25:34] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:25:36] dan64 | connection keeps dropping [14:25:36] gsf | cazzerson++ thanks for not talking, though I wouldn't have minded [14:25:42] ---| <<-- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:25:42] ---| <--- pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [14:25:43] codemart | mocking++ [14:25:49] ---| <<-- ntra [8cb6fbbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.187] has quit (Client Quit) [14:25:51] ---| ---> dericed [~Adium@157.150.192.225] has joined #code4lib [14:25:54] jstirnaman | scotthanrath++ [14:26:00] ---| <<-- diplomatica [9802a68a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.2.166.138] has quit (Client Quit) [14:26:01] pberry | Hahahahaha [14:26:02] druthb | sun_in_my_eyes-- [14:26:04] dchud | bah [14:26:06] ---| ---> mjg_1 [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:26:10] fumi | lol [14:26:14] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:26:14] mjg_ | mbklein: what am I doing wrong? I was just unceremoniously booted. [14:26:14] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:26:22] gsf | snail: erikhatcher might know that, but he already left to catch a plane [14:26:29] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:26:32] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [14:26:35] ---| ---> mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:26:41] ---| ---> ntra [8cb6fbbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.187] has joined #code4lib [14:26:42] jaf | @later tell mjg_ it says you client is quitting [14:26:43] zoia | jaf: The operation succeeded. [14:26:44] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:26:47] pmurray | demiankatz_channelling_royt++ [14:26:55] mbklein | mjg_: If there's life after the drinkup, you're doing it wrong. [14:26:57] ---| <<-- jstirnaman2 [~yaaic@173-140-227-44.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) [14:27:00] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:27:00] akorphan | get all the marc-specific code in one place... and burn it. [14:27:01] ---| ---> pyott [ad92c058@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.146.192.88] has joined #code4lib [14:27:13] ---| ---> joshbishoff [9c383b4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.76] has joined #code4lib [14:27:17] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:27:30] ---| ---> reeset_ [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:27:31] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:27:31] ---| User: *** scotthanrath_ is now known as scotthanrath [14:27:33] sesuncedu | Designed? [14:27:34] pberry | You know what they say about assumptions [14:27:36] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:27:38] ecorrado | cuts_of_meat++ [14:27:40] akorphan | meat_database++ [14:27:42] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:27:42] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:27:43] cazzerson | gsf: thanks. in retrospect, it was nice to have less to prepare. [14:27:45] davidWalker | meat_find++ [14:27:50] * ecorrado searches for bacon [14:27:50] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:27:51] mjg_ | MeatML++ [14:27:55] atz | meat_db++ [14:27:56] maccabee | vegan_geeks++ [14:27:59] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [14:27:59] ejk | MOPAC [14:28:00] codemart | vegan++ [14:28:00] akorphan | cazzerson, what's that meat newspaper called? [14:28:09] lbjay | Meatadata [14:28:11] ---| <<-- sciversedev [xovkpq@69.41.165.101] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:28:12] snail | gsf: thanks [14:28:12] edsu | shiny shiny, shiny strips of bacon [14:28:14] ---| <<-- dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:28:15] cazzerson | akorphan: http://www.meatpaper.com/ [14:28:21] akorphan | meat paper! [14:28:22] ---| <<-- danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:28:25] BigD | why does IRC work, but web doesn't? [14:28:26] akorphan | meat_paper++ [14:28:27] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-141-015.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [14:28:27] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [14:28:31] jstirnaman | scotthanrath: good work [14:28:32] cazzerson | excellent meat journalism [14:28:38] sesuncedu | High performance bacon scanning sottware developed at Fort Meat [14:28:39] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:28:42] mbklein | meatbase [14:28:50] jrochkind | BigD: IRC takes a lot less bandwidth, almost none. web is working for me just very slow [14:28:56] mbklein | @decide metadata or meatdata or metameat [14:28:58] gluejar | instead of killing off MARC, could we just wrap it in bacon? [14:28:59] ---| <<-- reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:29:01] ---| User: *** reeset_ is now known as reeset [14:29:06] timmcgeary | gluejar++ [14:29:06] zoia | mbklein: go with meatdata [14:29:07] zoia | its just data, jeez [14:29:13] ---| <<-- spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:29:22] MrDys | web's working just fine for me [14:29:23] sesuncedu | Metalab is an angram of metabal [14:29:27] timmcgeary | @ana vegan bacon [14:29:27] zoia | timmcgeary: Cave on bang [14:29:29] ---| <<-- banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:29:41] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:29:43] akorphan | @ana metadata [14:29:44] zoia | akorphan: Tame data [14:29:49] jrochkind | MrDys: prob depends on what AP you get. We are now well experienced with over-use failure modes of wireless internet, heh [14:29:53] mbklein | Could y'all not type in the channel so much? It's really slowing down my Netflix. [14:29:54] ---| <<-- stevermiles [8cb6f842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.66] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:29:57] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:30:02] akorphan | Well! That settles it. [14:30:03] timmcgeary | mbklein--- [14:30:04] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:30:06] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:30:13] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-148-248.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:30:17] anna3lc | looks like java... i thought vufind was php? [14:30:18] sesuncedu | the odd thing is, mbklein is watching a DVD [14:30:28] jrochkind | anna3lc: you can do OO php. [14:30:33] mbklein | sesuncedu++ FREAKY [14:30:33] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:30:35] ---| <<-- anna3lc__ [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:30:38] sesuncedu | that "doesn't work" like marc? [14:30:41] ---| ---> gregjansen1 [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:30:45] davidWalker | PHP looks like Java [14:30:46] ---| <<-- gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:30:50] anna3lc | jrochkind: oh i didn't realize it had protected, etc. [14:30:51] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-141-015.mycingular.net] has quit (Client Quit) [14:31:02] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [14:31:02] ---| ---> ddawg [a6898d12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.141.18] has joined #code4lib [14:31:04] lbjay | i gotcher java right here [14:31:04] jrochkind | I like that he's talking about good design/architecture. We don't get enough of that, modelling good architecture. [14:31:07] mbklein | anna3lc: Nah, if it were Java it would be an AbstractRecordDriverFactoryFactoryFactory [14:31:14] pmurray | This sounds like the Fedora content model. [14:31:21] timmcgeary | jrochkind: agreed [14:31:32] pberry | Yo dawg, i hear you like factories [14:31:36] ---| ---> sciversedev [ssttou@69.41.165.101] has joined #code4lib [14:31:36] anna3lc | mbklein: lol thanks for the tip [14:31:39] timmcgeary | they are releasing VuDL at ACRL in March [14:31:42] atz | MARCOO... .... [14:31:52] jtgorman | BigD: plus depending on your config, it might just look like irc is working [14:31:55] davidWalker | mbklein++ [14:32:05] tbw | cool talk [14:32:05] ---| ---> mjg_1 [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:32:08] pberry | Sigh [14:32:09] jtgorman | BigD: every ten/fifteen minutes or so I loose connection for a minute or two [14:32:10] ecorrado | this talk reminds me aI need a basic web seach app that injests dublin core or some other xml [14:32:11] gsf | snail: and btw, about that bug, java-- [14:32:11] sesuncedu | One week later... [14:32:18] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [14:32:23] gluejar | AbstractRecordDriverWriterFactoryDaoImplementation [14:32:29] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [14:32:30] mbklein | Yo dawg, I hear you like recursion, so I put a "Yo dawg, I hear you like recursion... [14:32:30] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:32:32] * ecorrado could write his own using bash [14:32:38] pberry | Does everything have to be an export. How many places do we need to have the same data [14:32:46] sesuncedu | pberry: 12 [14:32:50] pberry | Oh [14:32:52] freqlurker | that's crazy talk demian! [14:32:55] pberry | Well...then never mind [14:32:58] duspal | mbklein++ [14:32:58] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:33:09] snail | gsf: floating point is hard, at least with bug isn't in the hardware... [14:33:15] mjg_1 | all XML isn't arbitrary? [14:33:17] sesuncedu | marcxml is pretty arbitrry [14:33:18] BillDueber | pberry: Well, step one is having good GUIDs for everything. That's hard. So people import. [14:33:18] ---| ---> nabeta_ [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:33:19] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [14:33:20] sesuncedu | jinx [14:33:22] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [14:33:24] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:33:27] MrDys | time to revisit it [14:33:34] jrochkind | how many differnet oai-pmh harvesters do we need? [14:33:36] atz | BillDueber: good point [14:33:39] mbklein | mjg_: That's the difference between Enterprise XML and Toy XML [14:33:40] ndushay | dang. i hate it when i get distracted and then look up and realize i should have been paying attention to the last 10 minutes [14:33:42] jrochkind | can't we built one that doens't suck for once? [14:33:45] timmcgeary | jrochkind: at least 100 [14:33:46] sesuncedu | jrochkind: just one that works [14:33:49] pberry | BillDueber: True... [14:33:55] ---| ---> druthb1 [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:33:55] mbklein | XRECORD, MFER [14:34:10] BillDueber | Does anyone outside the library world use OAI-PMH? 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[14:34:32] jrochkind | BillDueber: no [14:34:33] eby | iii xml is not arbitrary. it had to be purposely designed by assholes [14:34:34] ---| User: *** druthb1 is now known as druthb [14:34:37] sesuncedu | BillDueber: if they did, they would be part of the library work [14:34:39] mjg_ | eby++ [14:34:42] ---| <<-- escowles [~escowles@mobile-166-137-140-229.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [14:34:49] was | pberry: the problem is how to search it all [14:34:54] ---| <<-- demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:34:54] ksclarke | BillDueber some repos that are hosted by non-library folks expose through oai-pmh [14:35:01] snail | gsf: at least Oracle are being consistent about the signals they're sending, makes it pretty clear what the options are [14:35:06] sesuncedu | eby: fortunately you can upgrade III through various URL buffer overruns [14:35:09] ndushay | expose yourself [14:35:09] mbklein | @trend c4l11 [14:35:09] zoia | mbklein: c4l11 - Unknown trend [14:35:10] ---| <<-- sciversedev [ssttou@69.41.165.101] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:35:11] gsf | snail: true [14:35:15] mbklein | no respect [14:35:17] jstirnaman | what happened to xc toolkit? [14:35:20] eby | "upgrade" [14:35:25] tbw | Yeah we got bitten by that no id in record problem [14:35:28] mbklein | @trend bieberpremiere [14:35:28] zoia | mbklein: bieberpremiere - Unknown trend [14:35:36] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:35:39] ndushay | windows shell scripts? ew. [14:35:39] mbklein | whew [14:35:39] ---| <<-- danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:35:40] BillDueber | sesuncedu++ [14:35:49] jrochkind | sesuncedu: that is an old joke, we're going to hack into someone's OPAC and improve it in an unauthorized manner. [14:35:51] pkiraly | jstirnaman: we will have a presentation tomorrow [14:35:54] ---| ---> dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:35:57] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:35:59] jrochkind | xslt? never heard of it. [14:36:01] BigD | someone go kick the AP [14:36:08] mjg_ | does the T in XSLT stand for toy? [14:36:14] ---| ---> dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has joined #code4lib [14:36:16] mbklein | someone go kick BigD [14:36:16] pmurray | jstirnaman: It is still out there. I think the XC Toolkit code is on Google Code. [14:36:16] mtomko | xslt is a language for transforming (developer) sanity to insanity. [14:36:26] was | How does this differ from the XC toolset? Doesn't that try to cover some of the same ground? [14:36:38] mbklein | I know it's wrong, but I actually love XSLT [14:36:40] lbjay | BigD: i smell scotch. are you sitting behind me? [14:36:41] sesuncedu | mjg: it stands for "why are we writing a language with angle brackets that includes data in angle brackets?" [14:36:51] ndushay | XSLT and PHP - two of my favorite technologies to hate. [14:36:52] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-141-015.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [14:36:53] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:36:55] gsf | was: good question for the end [14:36:58] ---| <<-- gregjansen1 [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:36:59] pkiraly | XC has 4 components: OAI Toolkit, NCIP Toolkit, Metadata Toolkit and Drupal Toolkit [14:37:03] ---| ---> gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:37:11] mtomko | ugh, it might be fine for short transformations, but seriously, is it more maintainable than simply writing a parser in a real language? [14:37:13] jrochkind | was: how is XSLT different tnan the XC toolkit? [14:37:17] ---| <--- schemer [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has left #code4lib () [14:37:20] akorphan | THE CAKE IS A LIE [14:37:22] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:37:25] jstirnaman | pkiraly: oh, right. great. just wondering why XC wasn't used here [14:37:25] ---| ---> mjg_1 [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:37:28] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:37:30] decasm_ | xslt & php, it's like garbage and puke chips [14:37:33] atz | anybody use the XC Drupal kit? [14:37:37] mjg_1 | Code4Lib-G-- [14:37:38] pberry | Holy moving parts [14:37:42] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [14:37:46] timmcgeary | We have looked at using the Drupal kit [14:37:47] sesuncedu | I read that as moving pants [14:37:52] knickum | descasm_ ++ [14:37:52] olsont_ | mtomko: not in my experience. [14:37:55] timmcgeary | we installed it, but had some issues with integration [14:38:02] ---| ---> scotthanrath_ [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:38:05] jrochkind | there are LOTS of tools for translating data from one format to another. I wouldn't expect there will be one single one that meets all needs. [14:38:06] MrDys | heh. ship dates for an open source project. [14:38:10] benanderson | xc mst is java - I'll be talking about it tomorrow @10:55 [14:38:10] pkiraly | atz: there is no production state usage yet [14:38:14] timmcgeary | plus we turned out attention to writing a SirsiDynix Symphony NCIP Driver [14:38:27] timmcgeary | s/NCIP/NCIP Toolkit [14:38:45] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@mobile-166-137-141-015.mycingular.net] has quit (Client Quit) [14:38:47] jrochkind | timmcgeary++ for specifying 'symphony' :) [14:38:55] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:38:56] ndushay | i need to see the posted slides to figure out what i missed. [14:38:56] pkiraly | but we will publish our demo in this month, and we will publish the release 1.0 [14:39:00] ---| ---> sciversedev [xndzce@69.41.165.101] has joined #code4lib [14:39:02] atz | timmcgeary: i can probably help you on that. State library (ohio) needs to build that for one of our consortia (migrating to symphony) [14:39:03] timmcgeary | jrochkind: I thought of you specifically when typing that [14:39:05] * ecorrado might need to try this new version of VUfind to search some Dublin Core stuff [14:39:05] pkiraly | of XC Drupal Toolkit [14:39:06] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:07] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:14] ndushay | where "a bit" --> "may vary by user" [14:39:17] sesuncedu | Are there any two compatible NCIP implementations (vendor) [14:39:21] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:39:22] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [14:39:24] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:39:24] ---| User: *** scotthanrath_ is now known as scotthanrath [14:39:26] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:39:27] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [14:39:28] ---| ---> pberry_ [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:28] jrochkind | the architecture they have for vufind for this stuff is similar to Blacklight, although different in a couple interesting ways. [14:39:29] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [14:39:29] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:32] atz | timmcgeary: or you can help us w/ what you've got [14:39:36] sesuncedu | It doesn't count if they're the same product under different names [14:39:38] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:39:41] timmcgeary | atz: talk to me off-list. We have 4 services ready for production (LookupUser, CheckinItem, CheckoutItem, AcceptItem) [14:39:44] gluejar | wow something good about marc- it has a lot of thingz in it [14:39:50] mbklein | Where can I find the latest Kochief development roadmap? [14:39:52] sciversedev | yes diy i like it [14:40:02] ndushay | someone to my right is playing weird sounds [14:40:03] atz | timmcgeary: will do, probably next week. [14:40:04] anna3lc | so the common data format is the solr index? [14:40:05] atz | thx [14:40:08] jeff | sesuncedu: none that i've come across, but we did put out an RFP (with three responses) for making Evergreen talk NCIP DCB-3 against INN-REACH [14:40:18] timmcgeary | atz: that'll work [14:40:22] ---| <<-- sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:40:24] jrochkind | anna3lc: in the vufind architecture he just showed us? no, there is no common data format. [14:40:29] ndushay | question: can we have our snacks now? [14:40:35] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:40:38] decasm_ | in addition to being quick, the lightning talks should include rapidly expanding hot air [14:40:50] MrDys | decasm++ [14:40:51] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:40:56] mbklein | ndushay: Tacos and cheesecake didn't do the trick? [14:40:56] ndushay | you coul call the common format xml or solr [14:40:59] ---| ---> sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:41:00] * timmcgeary needs food and water [14:41:03] mjg_ | mbklein: IT IS WRITTEN UPON THE SKIES [14:41:07] ---| <--- jbattles [82a08ca1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.160.140.161] has left #code4lib () [14:41:14] ndushay | mbklein: it made me want to run for the border. [14:41:18] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:41:24] * timmcgeary is having a migraine take over his brain [14:41:28] decasm_ | south of the border, down mexico way [14:41:28] scolford | ndushay++ [14:41:31] gsf | snail: i just asked erikhatcher and he hadn't yet heard of the bug [14:41:37] ndushay | timmcgeary: I wondered where my migraine went. [14:41:38] timmcgeary | yelling_at_demain-- [14:41:43] decasm_ | that's where i fell in love, when skies above came out to play [14:41:43] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [14:41:50] timmcgeary | ndushay: please take it back [14:41:54] jrochkind | @sing AC/DC / Thunderstruck [14:41:55] decasm_ | and as i wonder, my thoughts ever stray [14:41:56] zoia | jrochkind: No songs found by AC/DC / Thunderstruck [14:41:58] mbklein | mjg_: © 2008-2011 Upper Deck Software LLC [14:42:05] * davidWalker claps [14:42:06] decasm_ | south of the border, down mexico way ... [14:42:07] ndushay | timmcgeary: I think it just divided, actually. [14:42:10] sesuncedu | It's windy enough in NoVa that I'm expecting to relocate to Kansas [14:42:14] ndushay | I have aspirin and ibuprofen handy. [14:42:19] ---| <<-- reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:42:22] MrDys do it up lbjay [14:42:27] timmcgeary | I have fioricet [14:42:28] mjg_ | mbklein: "TOP notch software!" [14:42:28] sesuncedu | But that beats ThunderSnow [14:42:31] druthb | ndushay, timmcgeary: It divided. I got a little piece of it, I think. [14:42:32] ndushay | and if you're REALLY nice i have vicodin [14:42:37] pmurray | Short attention span. Quick! Everyone check e-mail. [14:42:38] snail | gsf: ew're having a discussion in #solr and the parsing of URL strings into TrieDoubleField, or SortableDoubleField appears to be the main worry [14:42:39] MrDys | @sing ac dc : thunderstruck [14:42:41] zoia | Beatin' in my heart / The thunder of guns / Tore me apart / You've been - thunderstruck [14:42:45] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:42:49] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:42:54] gsf is that lbjay up there? all i can see is stubble [14:42:55] mjg_ | Plop plop, fizz fizz, oh what a Kochief it is [14:43:01] jaf | @sing bob marley : one love [14:43:01] ndushay | isn't it unusual for us to not have questions? [14:43:03] gsf | snail: cool [14:43:03] zoia | One Love! One Heart! / Let's get together and feel all right. / Hear the children cryin' (One Love!); [14:43:04] MrDys | @translationparty [sing ac dc : thunderstruck] [14:43:10] anna3lc | demian++ [14:43:10] ---| ---> KingNightWolf [20b24505@gateway/web/freenode/ip.32.178.69.5] has joined #code4lib [14:43:13] timmcgeary | ndushay: I would hit you up for that, but I'm on a couple of things to break this cycle that would mess me up if I took vicodin [14:43:14] mjg_ I don't recognize lbjay without his hat [14:43:19] anarchivist | @danify Jay Luker [14:43:20] zoia | anarchivist: Jåy Lükèrsen [14:43:24] zoia | In my mind Ganbitin '/ thunder / / I've been robbed you - was struck by lightning [14:43:30] ndushay | I don't recognize anyone. [14:43:32] gsf | mbklein: there is no roadmap for kochief [14:43:36] timmcgeary | averaging 14 migraines / month since Oct [14:43:38] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@140-182-148-248.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:43:40] ---| ---> code4lib_ [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:43:43] pmurray | Rut, roh. No PDF viewer. [14:43:47] ndushay | next time there's a single presentation laptop, at least have it be a mac [14:43:50] mbklein | Has anyone set up a TwapperKeeper or other Twarchive for #c4l11? [14:43:53] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:43:54] ndushay | it can run vmware for windoze [14:43:59] ---| <<-- code4lib [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:44:00] ejk | How many geeks does it take to... [14:44:08] MrDys | mbklein: yeah [14:44:11] MrDys | twapperkeeper [14:44:13] gsf | mbklein: it's future is unknown, it's destiny unwritten [14:44:19] ---| <<-- ccurry1 [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:44:22] pmurray | ndushay: I think it is unusual, but I chalk it up to the style of the room. [14:44:22] gsf | s/'//g [14:44:25] mjg_ | seems like a toy OS up there. [14:44:27] MrDys | http://twapperkeeper.com/hashtag/c4l11 [14:44:29] ---| <<-- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:44:31] timmcgeary | migraines-- [14:44:32] ndushay | timmcgeary: sounds awful. [14:44:33] ---| <<-- mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:44:35] jaf | btw, planning for c4l16 will start next week... 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[14:45:15] akorphan | BOOK PLZ [14:45:17] sesuncedu | And that isn't fair [14:45:19] dchud_ | ranti++ [14:45:22] Baroquem | If you're not present, don't go up when your name is called. [14:45:26] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:45:27] gsf | ranti++ [14:45:37] ---| <<-- mcdonald1 [~Adium@108.98.5.97] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:45:45] ---| ---> ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:45:46] mbklein | winners++ # I GUESS [14:45:49] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [14:45:49] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:45:56] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:45:56] ---| User: *** rjhoyle_ is now known as rjhoyle [14:46:07] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:46:08] sesuncedu | Hastur the unspeakable [14:46:10] romana | hope I don't win a book. Still digesting my cheesecake [14:46:15] ndushay | hercule poirot? 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[14:46:44] ---| <<-- code4lib_ [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:46:45] ---| ---> code4lib__ [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:46:52] gsf | i believe it's adam whey-odd [14:46:53] mbklein | THAT'S TWO WRONG MICHAELS, PEOPLE [14:46:54] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:46:55] ---| ---> rjhoyle_ [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:46:59] jaf | how many books are being given out this year? [14:47:00] akorphan | Hey! None of those people were me. [14:47:00] ndushay | MrDys: "wead"? [14:47:01] jkeck | MrDys++ [14:47:04] ---| <<-- sciversedev [xndzce@69.41.165.101] has quit (Quit: Chatmosphere - IRC for Blackberry) [14:47:05] sesuncedu | mbklein: and a microphone [14:47:05] ndushay | like wheadle? [14:47:06] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:47:09] ndushay | wheedle? [14:47:10] jtgorman | the winners are all very civilized. [14:47:10] ---| ---> mingus [9c383b54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.84] has joined #code4lib [14:47:13] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:47:16] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:47:17] ---| User: *** NoelDiaz_ is now known as NoelDiaz [14:47:21] jtgorman | no elbows being thrown to get the good books [14:47:24] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:47:24] knickum | should be more pushing and blood [14:47:25] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:47:25] ---| User: *** rjhoyle_ is now known as rjhoyle [14:47:27] ndushay | beignet? [14:47:35] MrDys | you mean bagnet? [14:47:37] gsf | i believe it's been-what [14:47:38] BigD | if it looks like i'm ignoring you, assume it's the network. unless yer mjgiarlo [14:47:38] ejk | beh-noyt [14:47:41] cbeer | windows-- [14:47:48] ranti | slow network... AWRITE... Who's watching the streaming vide here in the building? [14:47:50] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:47:50] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [14:47:52] sesuncedu | bagit? [14:47:59] jaf | someone needs to kick it michael mcdonald style right now (for filler) [14:47:59] atz | "two men enter, one man gets an o'reilly book!" 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[14:48:11] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:48:15] ndushay | mbklein: we should have brought the books in 210 to give away [14:48:15] ---| <<-- mingus [9c383b54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.84] has quit (Client Quit) [14:48:21] ---| ---> charper [~yaaic@156-56-59-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:48:25] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:48:26] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@108.98.5.97] has joined #code4lib [14:48:32] gsf | zumwalt!!!!! [14:48:41] eby | attwifi++ #finally something good for the shitty dsl at home [14:48:44] BigD | wow, he's not shaved. [14:48:44] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@129-79-197-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dbh_) [14:48:47] Baroquem | How many books are there? [14:48:51] flyingzumwalt | zoia: huh? [14:48:52] zoia | flyingzumwalt_: there's a fine line between clever and stupid [14:48:53] mbach | timmcgeary: try maxalt for the migraines. worked great for me [14:48:54] ndushay | talk FASTER dammit! [14:49:11] anna3lc | books for all the aliens [14:49:19] gsf | BigD: if there's time for questions i'll ask why his face is so furry [14:49:20] ejk | NASA++ [14:49:23] mjg_ | lbjay: MOAR HAT PLZ [14:49:23] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:49:29] ---| <<-- tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:49:31] mbklein | Speaking of giveaways…Due to a mis-order, I have 7 XXL Blacklight T-shirts to give away. This design: http://www.cafepress.com/+project_blacklight_tshirt_dark,500993523 Ping me if you want one. [14:49:32] timmcgeary | mbach: I think I've tried maxalt before. didn't work [14:49:39] decasm_ | i saw this one movie, about pie, where a guy fixed his headaches with a drill [14:49:41] akorphan | WE CAN'T HEAR IN THE BACK [14:49:45] jaf | Ray needs no mike [14:49:53] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:49:58] helrond | except that wasn't ray [14:50:09] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:50:11] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:50:12] ndushay | mumble mmble mble [14:50:20] sesuncedu | Can NASA uses SOLR? [14:50:22] mbklein | We need SNL's Garrett Morris. "Our top story tonight.." "OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT!!!" [14:50:24] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~robcasson@mobile-166-137-142-180.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [14:50:30] jaf | i am code4lib, hear me roar [14:50:36] atz | "Too tall" luker [14:50:37] knickum | NASA can haz SOLR? [14:50:46] jaf | not me personally, but I as in the royal we [14:50:48] ---| ---> AndroUser [~androirc@100.sub-174-253-18.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [14:50:49] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:50:49] jtgorman | jaf: I thought that was "i am code4lib, hear me type" [14:51:02] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:51:05] druthb | ndushay++ [14:51:05] jtgorman | atz++ [14:51:07] timmcgeary | jtgorman++ [14:51:09] sesuncedu | Does Brian May use ADS? [14:51:18] mbklein | sesuncedu: You know he does. [14:51:21] ---| <<-- danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:51:24] ndushay | what does ADS stand for? [14:51:25] MrDys | TWITA [14:51:31] mbklein | Astronomical Data System [14:51:34] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [14:51:35] anarchivist1 | sibylschaefer: talk with your hands, not with your mouth [14:51:37] ndushay | thx [14:51:38] ---| User: *** anarchivist1 is now known as anarchivist [14:51:39] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [14:51:39] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [14:51:50] mbklein | anarchivist++ [14:51:57] MrDys | those poor, poor astronomers [14:51:58] mbklein | sibylschaefer++ # thanks for the cookie! [14:52:07] ndushay | wow - i will have to think of something to engage the audience more - this room is really not working for us [14:52:07] atz | YOU get an Astronical Data System! YOU get an Astronical Data System! YOU get an Astronical Data System! [14:52:13] MrDys | atz++ [14:52:16] timmcgeary | No money in shooting for the stars? [14:52:19] anarchivist | ndushay: the PA is not loud enough [14:52:20] mbklein | atz++ [14:52:25] mjg_ | TWITA++ [14:52:27] ndushay | so it's a really big data system? [14:52:28] MrDys | ndushay: I'm about to start "fixing" my slides [14:52:38] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Client Quit) [14:52:41] sibylschaefer | mbklein you're welcome! [14:52:43] highermath_aw | wuz Astronical? [14:52:43] danwho | atz++ [14:52:43] davidWalker | what does TWITA stand for? [14:52:44] ndushay | MrDys: oh please no. [14:52:45] edsu | lbjay++ # website_as_api [14:52:45] ---| <<-- malictus [9c383b30@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.48] has quit (Client Quit) [14:52:50] mjg_ | TWITA is also Bostonian for Twitter. [14:52:53] sesuncedu | anarchivist: The PA is The architect? [14:52:54] ---| <--- robcaSSon [~robcasson@mobile-166-137-142-180.mycingular.net] has left #code4lib () [14:52:55] edsu | the website is the api [14:52:56] highermath_aw | like cannonical only higher? [14:53:03] MrDys | ndushay: feel free to watch over my shoulder [14:53:07] pmurray | davidWalker: The Website Is The API [14:53:19] davidWalker | pmurray++ # thanks [14:53:22] anarchivist | @band add Sinbad Objects [14:53:23] zoia | anarchivist: Band 'Sinbad Objects' added to list [14:53:23] ---| ---> BigD1 [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:53:24] ---| ---> robcaSSon_ [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:53:24] emorgan | The presenter is going to run out of time. [14:53:29] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [14:53:35] atz | 3. atz < 1 ?? oh... at z < 1 # :\ [14:53:37] sesuncedu | Billyuns and billyuns of hits ago [14:53:41] scolford | book giveaway report: we just gave away 9 books. 12 remain. [14:53:49] highermath | UZ ++ [14:53:54] highermath | UX ++ [14:53:56] timmcgeary | Sinbad? As in "Different World"? [14:53:57] erikhatcher | blacklight++ ;) [14:54:04] highermath | typing w.thumbs ++ [14:54:10] jrochkind | thanks jay! [14:54:14] mjg_ | jrochkind++ cbeer++ [14:54:17] mbklein | jrock++ [14:54:23] erikhatcher | jrochkind++ cbeer++ [14:54:24] jaron | cbeer++ jrochkind++ [14:54:26] scolford | jrochkind++ cbeer++ [14:54:32] mjg_ | another pronunciation of "rochkind" added to the pile [14:54:35] bmljenny | Weeping for joy at being back online. [14:54:38] atz | it's so ... facety. [14:54:44] robcaSSon_ | jrochkind++ cbeer++ mjgiarlo++ [14:55:02] ndushay | jrochkind++ cbeer++ [14:55:06] ---| User: *** robcaSSon_ is now known as robcaSSon [14:55:14] highermath | giant forms from the 90s [14:55:18] MrDys | worst. UI. ever. [14:55:21] mjg_ | ruh roh, twitter alerts. [14:55:23] jrochkind | do I want to combine with 'simple logic' or 'boolean logic'? [14:55:23] robcaSSon | astronomers++ [14:55:28] ndushay | MrDys: not even close. [14:55:29] atz | once you have something working for that long... might as well let it ride. [14:55:29] anarchivist | @ana partial block hashing [14:55:30] zoia | anarchivist: Prankish, logical bath [14:55:31] ---| <<-- spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [14:55:33] edsu | they've got scrapers that are dependent on it ... [14:55:35] timmcgeary | This UI should be out of this world [14:55:35] bmljenny | Someone dm him something awful [14:55:40] highermath | Mrthat's a highly contested title [14:55:41] atz | i'm sure it was state of the art.... for 1992 [14:55:45] mtomko | did anyone see what he had subscribed to? can you place arbitrary tweets on that screen? [14:55:45] ndushay | imaginary system? [14:55:46] akorphan | good god, I'm craving coffee again. [14:55:50] atz | pre-browser wars [14:55:51] mbklein | "My god…it's full of facets…" [14:55:56] jrochkind @later tell lbjay for your users who want the full power of arbitrary boolean queries from your old system, you may be interested in my CQL plugin for blacklight. [14:55:56] zoia | jrochkind: The operation succeeded. [14:56:03] mbklein | Arthur C. Clarke will be smiting me now. [14:56:04] BigD1 | i was spoiled with the free diet cokes... i miss them. [14:56:06] anarchivist | mbklein: go play with your monolith somewhere else [14:56:10] ndushay | looks like it could be served by hydra ... [14:56:12] gsf | terminal-style_drop_shadows++ [14:56:16] jaf | oooh, linking to CERN, bringing out the big guns [14:56:18] timmcgeary | any "How I Met Your Mother" fans here? [14:56:22] sesuncedu | atz: actually, using features nod available till at least late 93 [14:56:22] bmljenny | Pro tip: refill your own cup at sbux is 53 cents. [14:56:24] ---| <<-- BigD [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Disconnected by services) [14:56:27] ---| <<-- reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:56:28] ---| User: *** BigD1 is now known as BigD [14:56:34] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [14:56:34] ndushay | well, how about those ascii graphics for git? [14:56:49] benanderson | pro_tip++ [14:56:52] MrDys | reppersitory is definitely the better pronounciation [14:56:54] anarchivist | +++++ [14:56:59] mbklein | bmljenny++ [14:57:03] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:57:15] sesuncedu | ndushay: Have you ever tried Apple's quicktime-to-ascii app? [14:57:18] anarchivist | @ana merged by octopus [14:57:19] zoia | anarchivist: Good-bye! Spectrum [14:57:29] danwho | bmljenny: how much to fill someone else's cup? [14:57:30] dbs | timmcgeary: suit up! [14:57:31] ndushay | MrDys: you're killing me, man [14:57:40] mbklein | @who is giving a surprise lightning talk? [14:57:40] zoia | mlevy is giving a surprise lightning talk. 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[14:58:06] mjg_ | benoit++ # yay for new accents [14:58:13] anarchivist | benoit++ [14:58:16] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-oadlcgqpktkfokaa] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:58:20] ---| <<-- pyott [ad92c058@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.146.192.88] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:58:21] akorphan | I would like a rapiersitory [14:58:22] mbklein | danwho++ # for making the joke so I didn't have to [14:58:25] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:58:28] ---| ---> rnanders [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:58:31] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-mtsjlanoynseommd] has joined #code4lib [14:58:34] erikhatcher | lisp?! [14:58:35] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:58:38] BigD | akorphan: careful... [14:58:41] ndushay | rapperstory [14:58:43] MrDys | webscale. totally. [14:58:52] atz | what is mod_wsgi... silicon graphics? [14:58:57] ---| <<-- banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:58:58] mtomko | python apache gateway [14:59:01] ---| ---> pyott [ad92c058@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.146.192.88] has joined #code4lib [14:59:05] ndushay | is it a toy? [14:59:08] mjg_ | wsgi++ [14:59:10] anarchivist | ndushay: probably [14:59:11] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:59:12] mbklein | akorphan: My attempt to build a rapiersitory was foiled. I wasn't at all 'epee about it. [14:59:13] robcaSSon | benoit++ [14:59:15] akorphan | BigD: No, seriously, a sword collection would be totally cool. [14:59:16] mjg_ | lolcats++ [14:59:19] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:59:20] erikhatcher | intbitset++ [14:59:30] jrochkind | i'm going to sell a web-scale enterprise cloud NoSQL, and get rich! [14:59:34] ndushay | mbklein++ [14:59:41] gsf | "in-house c implementation of python sets"???? that's hard core [14:59:53] mtomko | gsf: yeah it is [14:59:53] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:58] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:58] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:58] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:58] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [14:59:58] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:58] ---| <<-- olsont_ [~olsont@156-56-58-94.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:58] ---| <<-- pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:58] ---| <<-- code4lib__ [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:59] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:59:59] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:00:00] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:00:01] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [15:00:01] ---| <<-- gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:00:01] atz | yeah, so is LISP in production [15:00:02] ---| <<-- rnanders [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:00:03] ndushay | its too saberasive [15:00:03] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:03] ---| ---> erikhatcher [~anonymous@156-56-58-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:03] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:03] bmljenny | White castles also promote fast dumping [15:00:04] ---| ---> ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:04] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156.56.58.125] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:00:05] ---| ---> code4lib_ [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:05] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:05] ---| ---> olsont_ [~olsont@156-56-58-94.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:05] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [15:00:05] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:05] ---| ---> rnanders_ [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:07] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:07] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:12] mtomko | wonder what they used LISP for... [15:00:15] ---| ---> NoelDiaz_ [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:16] mtomko | other than emacs. [15:00:16] ---| ---> anna3lc__ [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:17] jtgorman | (define lamba awesome ) [15:00:18] robcaSSon | math is hard. so are netsplits [15:00:20] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:24] sesuncedu | jtgorman: that's scheme [15:00:25] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:29] akorphan | jrochkind: What about the cyberinfrastructure grid? [15:00:30] jtgorman | sesuncedu: doh! [15:00:33] robcaSSon | @damlev intbitset netsplit [15:00:33] zoia | robcaSSon: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "intbitset" and "netsplit" is 7. [15:00:36] * mbklein is also slow by design [15:00:37] ---| ---> mjg_1 [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:37] jtgorman | sesuncedu: I did a lot more scheme than I ever did lisp [15:00:39] ---| ---> dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:00:43] sesuncedu | jtgorman: but you can fix it with a macro [15:00:47] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [15:00:55] BigD | i need a nap [15:00:58] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb6e47a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.228.122] has joined #code4lib [15:01:09] jtgorman | and by "a lot", I mean "did very little scheme and may have just read a book on lisp" [15:01:09] mbklein | argh. netsplit. [15:01:13] ---| <<-- alxp [~alxp@PC044.ROBLIB.UPEI.CA] has quit (Quit: alxp) [15:01:23] jrochkind | i did scheme in school. that's it. i remember it fondly. [15:01:25] ranti | scolford: do you know how many other books we get besides the remaining 12 for today? [15:01:27] jrochkind | The Little Lisper is a must-read. [15:01:28] mjg_1 | I like the back and forth between these guys. It's like a posse rap. [15:01:29] sesuncedu | Using bit fields for int sets is nifty [15:01:30] erikhatcher | scheme++ [15:01:30] atz | i dropped a class on lisp. damn 7:30 AM. [15:01:31] knickum | i know someone who has a lisp? [15:01:32] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [15:01:42] * dchud_ drools at http://www.shapiros.com/menu.htm [15:01:47] maccabee | i miss scheme. nondeterministic_finite_automata++ [15:01:48] robcaSSon | lbjay: next slide [15:01:49] ndushay | i will NOT be doing my presentation as a rap [15:01:54] csharp | awww [15:01:54] robcaSSon | nico++ [15:01:54] atz | that's our first baby... [15:01:57] danwho | lol baby caption: go! [15:01:58] timmcgeary | cute_baby++ [15:01:58] davidWalker | lbjay++ [15:01:59] ---| <<-- mike_s [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:01:59] ---| <<-- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:02:03] atz | little_luker++ [15:02:03] BigD | that's MY BABY! [15:02:05] mjg_ | BigD++ # first funny comment ever [15:02:05] ndushay | wait - that's MY baby! [15:02:06] romana | babies++ [15:02:08] pmurray | Awww -- baby pictures. [15:02:08] jtgorman | there's a good chance when the CERN guys developed this, it was just another .emacs mode ;) [15:02:09] druthb | cute lil baby! [15:02:10] duspal | Genius move [15:02:11] ---| <<-- charper [~yaaic@156-56-59-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:02:13] robcaSSon | Luker, I am your father. [15:02:15] gsf reminds me i need some pics of lbjay's kid for my talk [15:02:16] ksclarke | lbjay++ #kid photos [15:02:17] ranti | that is NOT my baby [15:02:19] BigD | lbjay is a dingo [15:02:27] robcaSSon | lbjay++ # i stole that joke from the man himself [15:02:33] mjg_ nico has lbjay's eyes and benoit's accent [15:02:37] danwho | will someone think of the solr babies?! [15:02:42] scolford | ranti: not sure. are there others beyond these? chanitra will know better than i. [15:02:44] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [15:02:47] anarchivist | @ana solr baby [15:02:47] zoia | anarchivist: Ably robs [15:02:50] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:02:52] anarchivist | @google baby conference [15:02:53] zoia | anarchivist: The Baby Conference - Vision Forum Ministries: ; My Top 10 list from the Baby Conference: ; Life In a Shoe The Baby Conference: ; Life In a Shoe Baby Conference recap: ; WABC World Aquatic (2 more messages) [15:02:55] ndushay | they could have their own tv show: solr babies [15:02:59] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:02:59] ---| User: *** NoelDiaz_ is now known as NoelDiaz [15:03:06] timmcgeary | caption: Is that poop I smell or just a MARC record? [15:03:06] mjg_ | disembodied_baby_heads-- [15:03:09] dchud_ | 1. lead with your demo. [15:03:10] BigD | creepy baby [15:03:10] jaf | dchud: no knishes, but they do have latkes [15:03:16] sesuncedu | that reminds me that I have a lot of jelly babies [15:03:17] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:03:17] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [15:03:19] anarchivist | ndushay: i'm imagining a muppet babies-style tv show with you and BillDueber and rhaschart [15:03:19] mbklein | dchud++ totally [15:03:25] anarchivist | ndushay: and erikhatcher [15:03:27] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:03:28] jrochkind | ooh, I wanna know the answer [15:03:30] ndushay | anarchivist: thanks a lot. [15:03:32] BillDueber | I get to be Gonzo. [15:03:35] anarchivist | ndushay++ [15:03:35] bmljenny | Aaa it's like that sun baby on the teletubbies. [15:03:37] ndushay | I was thinking teletubbies [15:03:41] anarchivist | bmljenny++ [15:03:45] BigD | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/98/Teletubbies-sun.png [15:03:46] jtgorman | I'm guessing it didn't [15:03:46] jrochkind | yeah, doens't work. [15:03:46] atz | "gimme 2 million record IDs" ... that's nuts. pretty awesome if you can do it... [15:03:49] BillDueber | Or maybe Fozzie, so I can saw "wakka wakka wakka" [15:03:49] mbklein | what_the_hell_methodology++ [15:03:53] ndushay | Can I be fozzy? [15:04:00] jrochkind | as is a problem for us for dump for Google SiteMap. So I wanna know what he did instead! [15:04:01] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [15:04:01] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [15:04:04] scolford | BigD++ [15:04:09] robcaSSon | mbklein:++ wth++ [15:04:28] BigD | who's the librarian NOW??? 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[15:05:07] ---| <<-- ntra [8cb6fbbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.187] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [15:05:07] cazzerson | baby_visualization++ [15:05:07] mbklein | jaf++ [15:05:08] scolford | ranti: sounds like a plan. [15:05:08] mtomko | did they consider partitioning? [15:05:09] bohyunkim | babyhead [15:05:14] ---| ---> willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [15:05:15] mbklein | @hussein babyhead [15:05:15] zoia | mbklein: He is a shabby nude [15:05:17] danwho | ndushay++ [15:05:17] jrochkind | nah, it's solr/lucene [15:05:20] anarchivist | zoia++ [15:05:26] scolford | zoia++ [15:05:33] akorphan | There used to be a club in providence called Babyhead [15:05:42] bmljenny | I bet that baby enjoys the warmed cache. [15:05:43] mbklein | zoia! [15:05:44] zoia | mbklein! [15:05:47] BigD | um... nevermind. [15:05:52] jaf | it would be cool if the side monitors could display the chat room instead of the slides [15:05:59] scolford | stop saying babyhead or i'm going to cackle in the middle of jay's presentation [15:06:03] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [15:06:06] timmcgeary | what's in the box? tell me what's in the box? oh, man, what is in the box? [15:06:06] jaron | please go on. i want to hear this [15:06:11] emorgan | I said it here first. [15:06:12] akorphan | BABY...HEAD... [15:06:13] mjg_ | @danify babyhead luker [15:06:13] ndushay | scolford: babyhead babyhead babyhead [15:06:14] zoia | mjg_: Båbyhèåd Lükèrsen [15:06:14] dchud | "...there is a girl in new york city who calls herself the giant babyhead..." 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[15:06:33] mjg_ | Intger [15:06:38] scolford | jaf++ excellent idea [15:06:41] robcaSSon | lbjay++ # abbreviating [15:06:47] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) [15:06:47] gsf | baby of darkness [15:06:54] mjg_ | @takify babyhead [15:06:55] zoia | Ḇ Ắ Ḅ Ỵ Ḧ Ḗ Ą Ḑ [15:07:06] chelociraptor | gfs++ [15:07:06] robcaSSon | nico is the new BOB [15:07:06] ndushay | @ana babyhead [15:07:07] zoia | ndushay: Had abbey [15:07:11] BigD | each baby seems to have a different ethnicity [15:07:11] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:07:16] akorphan | low contrast babyhead [15:07:17] pmurray | @cyborg babyhead [15:07:20] zoia | pmurray: B.A.B.Y.H.E.A.D.: Biomechanical Artificial Being Yearning for Hazardous Exploration and Accurate Destruction [15:07:22] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [15:07:24] gsf | what's missing? a babyhead! [15:07:24] mjg_ | BigD: boston is a melting pot [15:07:29] akorphan | I can't pick up on the right emotion for each slide due to the babyhead's inscrutable low contrast [15:07:31] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:07:32] dchud | heh [15:07:32] sesuncedu | @scalia this is a babyhead [15:07:33] zoia | sesuncedu: this is a 'babyhead' [15:07:33] jaf | there's something missing from this picture - LIKE THE REST OF THE BABY! [15:07:35] robcaSSon | gsf++ # spittake [15:07:52] ecorrado | jaf++ [15:07:53] ---| ---> rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [15:07:56] pmurray | jaf++ [15:08:05] BigD | the baby is a lie [15:08:21] jaf | @sing cat stevens : wild world [15:08:24] zoia | I hope you have a lot of nice things to wear / But then a lot of nice things turn bad out there / [Chorus:] / Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world [15:08:24] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:08:34] bmljenny | Also you need a cute hat [15:08:35] mjg_ | the baby worked on these slides [15:08:37] pmurray | BigD: Huh. Usually one has to wait for them to get up to three years old or so before they start lying. [15:08:37] pmurray | \ [15:08:41] pberry | Math is hard [15:08:47] jrochkind | some inconsistencies with the yeah. i run into those a lot too. [15:08:49] gluejar | the channel is now bashing babies. [15:08:57] mjg_ | lbjay++ [15:08:58] anarchivist | @ana baby neckbeard [15:08:58] zoia | anarchivist: Crabby, bad keen [15:09:00] robcaSSon | lbjay++ benoit++ nico++ [15:09:01] erikhatcher | lbjay++ [15:09:02] BigD | MY EYES!!!! [15:09:03] jaf | props for going there with the baby neckbeard++ [15:09:04] scolford | lbjay++ [15:09:05] anarchivist | @hussein baby neckbeard [15:09:05] pberry | Disturbing [15:09:05] zoia | anarchivist: Shabby as nice debunker [15:09:07] robcaSSon | cool hack, cool baby [15:09:07] ranti | baby_neck_beard_fest+ [15:09:08] gsf | impressive speed [15:09:12] jaf | photoshop skilz-- [15:09:20] mtomko | nice. [15:09:20] ---| <<-- nyara [8cb6fa61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.97] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [15:09:25] rsinger | Mattel's "My First Neckbeard" (tm) [15:09:27] mjg_ | I wondered where my beard was yesterday [15:09:31] jaf | rsinger++ [15:09:34] ---| ---> banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:09:44] BigD | i hope he cleaned that ferret before he put it on the baby [15:09:54] ---| <<-- pyott [ad92c058@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.146.192.88] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:09:54] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:09:54] jrochkind | is erikhatcher still here? [15:09:56] robcaSSon | @quote add what's missing? a babyhead! [15:09:57] zoia | robcaSSon: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [15:09:57] dchud | ranti: they're out of time. [15:09:59] pberry | o_0 [15:09:59] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:10:00] akorphan | I keep hearing "El Nino" when they say "Invenio" [15:10:05] timmcgeary | rsinger++ [15:10:08] duspal | jaf: This is code4lib ... GIMP skilz-- [15:10:20] ---| <--- rnanders_ [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [15:10:24] davidWalker | bring out the drupal hook! [15:10:25] jaf | duspal: you got me there. [15:10:27] BigD | no thanks to the baby? [15:10:34] erikhatcher | lbjay: maybe Solr's DocSet/List instead of OpenBitSet? [15:10:35] ---| <<-- ASmith [8cb6e5f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.243] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [15:10:38] davidWalker | no Solr astronomy puns? 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Babyheads in libraries [15:13:11] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [15:13:11] zoia | But you're not as confused as ablemann, are you. I mean, it's not your job to be as confused as ablemann. [15:13:11] ---| <<-- ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [15:13:14] ---| <<-- mike_s [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:13:22] gsf | royt: you missed the "MARC is dead" slide! [15:13:28] royt | gsf: crap [15:13:30] mbklein | Exactly how fast is "baby neckbeard fast"? [15:13:32] timmcgeary | who wants to go to drupal? seriously? [15:13:35] ---| ---> BigD1 [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:13:40] gsf | royt: check out the vufind talk later [15:13:45] ---| <<-- rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[15:14:18] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [15:14:19] sesuncedu | lets have the breakout right here in the barn [15:14:19] ---| <<-- kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: kestlund) [15:14:20] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Quit: cazzerson) [15:14:21] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:14:22] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [15:14:23] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: robcaSSon) [15:14:25] ---| <<-- reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [15:14:25] royt | 6. Scotch ; 7. Nap [15:14:26] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:14:26] ---| User: *** NoelDiaz__ is now known as NoelDiaz [15:14:29] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:14:30] ---| <<-- asl2 [~asl2@adsl-75-3-66-69.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [15:14:31] pberry | I'm confused [15:14:31] pberry | SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE TO GO [15:14:31] pberry | okay [15:14:31] pberry | Now everybody get off my AP [15:14:31] ---| <<-- pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [15:14:31] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [15:14:33] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[15:20:43] anna3lc | afraid to exit channel; may not be able to get back in. 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[15:30:15] mjg_ | anarchivist: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0X1ggm5ZqsA/TEkAtqN5rvI/AAAAAAAAGyo/oJYWX3HL3Vw/s1600/bluetoothfail.png [15:30:20] pberry | Wow. Lag [15:30:27] anarchivist | mjg_++ [15:30:33] anarchivist | mjg_: where u at [15:30:39] mjg_ | h-suite [15:30:40] ---| <<-- williw [~williw@office.canadiana.ca] has quit (Quit: williw) [15:30:44] ---| <<-- chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:30:47] mjg_ | w/ cbeer, decasm, and eby [15:30:52] anarchivist | mjg_: werd [15:30:55] ---| User: *** cbeer_ is now known as cbeer [15:30:59] eby | wall is making tea for you anarchivist [15:31:01] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: anna3lc) [15:31:08] mjg_ | prolly gonna livestream the lightning talks in here too [15:31:26] mjg_ | eby++ [15:31:29] eby | @hussein USS Booze [15:31:30] zoia | eby: Ozone issues bush [15:31:34] anarchivist | mjg_: might come up [15:31:43] anarchivist | mjg_: i'm feeling a little braindead [15:31:47] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: paulalbert) [15:31:49] mjg_ | anarchivist: we have cookies, danishes, muffins, cheese, sausage, soda, beer, and booze [15:31:58] eby | bourbon_and_coke++ [15:32:01] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:32:02] zoia | I've got a coke in my pocket *and* I'm happy to see you. [15:32:09] eby | @karma bourbon_and_coke [15:32:09] zoia | eby: Karma for "bourbon_and_coke" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. [15:32:23] pberry | lag-- [15:32:24] ---| <<-- bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:32:31] ---| ---> sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:32:57] rsinger | http://code.google.com/intl/sr/more/table/ [15:33:10] younga | mjg! [15:33:27] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:33:35] younga | mjg: that sounds like the best breakout session. [15:33:36] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [15:33:39] ---| <<-- benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:33:42] mjg_ | younga: yeah! 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[15:39:01] dbs | Just in time for #code4lib 2011, File_MARC 0.6.2 has been released - yes, I know you're all going to rejoice and spend the rest of the conference on PHP MARC hacking! [15:39:11] anarchivist | dbs++ [15:39:30] dbs | asnagy: insert your "Oh for crissakes just release 1.0 already" groan here :) [15:39:32] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:39:49] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [15:40:02] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:40:07] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [15:40:40] asnagy | dbs: Oh for crissakes just release 1.0 already [15:40:47] dbs | asnagy++ [15:40:51] davidWalker | dbs++ [15:40:56] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:40:59] ---| ---> ccurry_ [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:40:59] ---| ---> cbeer_ [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:41:11] asnagy | "release early, release often" [15:41:12] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:41:13] ---| User: *** ccurry_ is now known as ccurry [15:41:13] mjg_ | dbs++ [15:41:14] anarchivist | don't mind me, just pulling a 91 mb xml file [15:41:29] davidWalker | dbs: what's new in 0.6.2 ? [15:41:31] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:41:38] davidWalker | just fixes? [15:41:44] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:41:54] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [15:41:54] zoia | Shh! Daft largesse [15:42:12] mjg_ | eikeon: what's the story on the mysql backend in rdflib 3.0? [15:42:23] dbs | davidWalker: just fixes - one inspired by a problem jeff ran into in MARC::File::XML, where MARCXML records with mangled, overly-long leaders generate invalid MARC21 records that nobody parses cleanly [15:42:51] dbs | solution: $leader = substr($leader, 0, 24); # more or less :) [15:42:55] ---| ---> epalm [~epalm@TOROON12-1178068039.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #code4lib [15:43:02] davidWalker | cool [15:43:05] anarchivist | @tweet [sing katy perry : teenage dream : regrets] #c4l11 [15:43:07] zoia | The operation succeeded. [15:43:28] eikeon | mjg_: it's been moved out of rdflib proper in 3.0 into rdfextras or wherever people would like to maintain it. [15:43:38] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:43:49] dbs | (ugly, but hey, my 37 unit tests pass and yaz-marcdump etc can deal with the MARC21 output without vomiting now, so a win all around) [15:43:50] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:43:50] zoia | I've got a coke in my pocket *and* I'm happy to see you. [15:43:59] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:44:02] ---| ---> ccurry_ [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:44:19] royt | anarchivist: the word "sing" should not be in the same sentence as "katy perry" -- chant, maybe [15:44:32] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:45:00] anarchivist | when are the lightning talks supposed to start? [15:45:13] anarchivist | for some reason i thought ranti said they were starting at 4 [15:45:19] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:45:32] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:45:38] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [15:45:45] anna3lc | anarchivist: schedule says 4 [15:45:53] jaron | anarchivist: I thought 4. not much space in the schedule to move that around [15:45:57] ejk | You guys on Eastern or Central time? I always get confused with Indiana [15:45:59] anarchivist | anarchivist: the wiki page for the breakouts says 16:00-17:00 [15:46:00] ---| ---> jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:46:01] zoia | find / -name 'jrochkind' -exec chmod 0000 '{}' \; [15:46:01] ranti | anarchivist: yes, we aim at 4. [15:46:02] anarchivist | ejk: eastern [15:46:21] ejk | thanks. No math required [15:46:25] anna3lc | is the reception a dinner thing? [15:46:36] jrochkind | anna3lc: i have heard a rumor that it is. [15:46:37] anarchivist | anna3lc: i was wondering the same thing, but i assumed so [15:46:42] jrochkind | with fancy food. is the rumor. [15:46:46] rsinger | @sing phil collins : no jacket required [15:46:47] zoia | rsinger: No lyrics found for no jacket required by phil collins [15:46:57] ranti | local committee members should start rounding up the folks sometime before 4 to go back to the Alumni Hall. [15:47:06] anarchivist | @sing phil collins : sussudio [15:47:09] zoia | There's this girl that's been on my mind / All the time, Sussudio oh oh / Now she don't even know my name [15:47:58] anarchivist | @insult helrond [15:47:59] zoia | helrond: You are nothing but a beef-witted tongueful of knotty-pated assholes. [15:48:13] helrond | @mf anarchivist [15:48:14] zoia | Hey, anarchivist... [15:48:15] zoia | .-. [15:48:16] zoia | |-| [15:48:17] zoia | | | [15:48:18] zoia | _.-|=|-. [15:48:19] zoia | / | | | | [15:48:20] zoia | | |\ [15:48:21] zoia | | / [15:48:22] zoia | \ /` [15:48:23] zoia | | | [15:48:39] anarchivist | @sing katy perry : tgif [15:48:42] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for tgif by katy perry [15:48:44] ejk | (Time zone) math is hard [15:49:25] ---| ---> tomkeays [~chatzilla@host-124-020.host.lemoyne.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:50:23] ---| <<-- ccurry_ [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [15:51:20] ---| ---> milkya_ [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:51:50] ---| ---> anna3lc_ [~anna3lc@li62-110.members.linode.com] has joined #code4lib [15:52:00] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:52:27] ecorrado | if you are doing alightning talk today come up to the podium as soon as breakouts are over. [15:52:29] mjg_ | eikeon: I was looking through rdfextras the other day and couldn't find it: http://code.google.com/p/rdfextras/source/browse/#hg%2Frdfextras [15:52:35] ---| <<-- milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:53:16] mjg_ | eikeon: the disclaimer about rdfextras being unstable is a bit scary, too. :) [15:54:08] mjg_ | not that my code is any stabler. [15:54:12] ---| <<-- brendan2 [~brendan@ip184-189-236-18.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:54:57] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: anna3lc) [15:54:58] ---| ---> masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:55:50] akorphan | cranky. 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I thought we are 15mins behind schedule? [16:01:01] JodiS | is that just general chatter on the video stream? [16:01:37] anarchivist1 | JodiS: likely [16:01:45] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:01:52] JodiS | yup, just heard ecorrado with "get your presentation on the 'puter" [16:02:23] ---| ---> helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:02:29] ---| ---> fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:02:30] timmcgeary | they are getting back on schedule now [16:02:32] ---| <<-- jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jrochkind) [16:02:36] * eeevil fires up the live stream ... it's like I'm there! [16:02:42] davidWalker | using_the_same_computer++ [16:02:48] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [16:02:53] * jbrinley checks in for the lightning talks [16:03:02] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:05] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:08] atz | eeevil: any ESI folks attending (in person)? [16:03:09] davidWalker | eeevil: you'll just need to go get drunk tonight, and the experience is complete [16:03:10] JodiS | sounds like jrochkind :) [16:03:15] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:15] ---| <--- dbs [~dbs@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has left #code4lib ("Leaving") [16:03:20] ---| ---> dbs [~dbs@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [16:03:20] zoia | mbklein's operation succeeded [16:03:23] eeevil | atz: no sir [16:03:23] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:03:23] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [16:03:30] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:34] eeevil | davidWalker: that is indeed my plan [16:03:36] ---| ---> jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:39] ---| <<-- joshbishoff [9c383b4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.76] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [16:03:43] atz | eeevil: bummers. hopefully next year. [16:03:49] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:57] JodiS | a little datacite commentary here: http://www.russet.org.uk/blog/ [16:03:58] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:04:04] ---| ---> yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has joined #code4lib [16:04:05] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-lvzerqxygdvyubhu] has joined #code4lib [16:04:05] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:04:16] ---| <<-- dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dan64) [16:04:25] eeevil | atz: hopefully, yes. [16:04:32] ---| <<-- tlepczyk [IceChat77@lib-dig7-128252066043.wulib.wustl.edu] has quit (Quit: ASCII a stupid question, get a stupid ANSI!) [16:04:35] ---| <<-- bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:04:38] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:05:01] pberry | There is always time for snark [16:05:04] MrDys | blam blam blam lightning talks [16:05:20] eefcee | live_stream++ [16:05:21] pberry | Go BillDueber [16:05:24] JodiS | BillDueber++ [16:05:27] ---| ---> julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [16:05:29] * dbs - freetard that I am - can't get the stream to work with gnash [16:05:36] ejk | live_stream++ [16:05:38] davidWalker | @eightball will this be about json? [16:05:38] ---| User: *** harvel_ is now known as harvel [16:05:38] lbjay | DUUUUUUBZ! [16:05:38] zoia | davidWalker: One would be wise to think so. [16:05:43] timmcgeary | Is this really an IT conference? j/k [16:05:43] ---| <<-- gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [16:05:44] tomkeays | live_stream++ [16:05:46] anarchivist1 | BillDueber++ [16:05:49] ejk | GO BLUE [16:05:53] ---| User: *** anarchivist1 is now known as anarchivist [16:05:53] ---| ---> BigD [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:05:53] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [16:05:53] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [16:05:55] MrDys | you shouldn't sweat blood [16:05:56] atz | no time to snark? nevar! [16:06:00] anna3lc | there's always time for snark [16:06:01] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [16:06:04] dchud | we're on [16:06:05] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [16:06:05] zoia | rsinger thinks they're hot / but hot they're not [16:06:05] JodiS | so quickly there's no time for snark? Agree w/atz! :) [16:06:08] lbjay | why was the mic not loving me? [16:06:08] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:06:09] decasm_ | are the cameras on down there? [16:06:15] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [16:06:15] zoia | Shh! Daft largesse [16:06:16] ---| ---> mcdonald2 [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:06:19] anna3lc | is that a pokemon eyeball? [16:06:21] atz | deuber_graph++ [16:06:22] davidWalker | tiiiiiiiiny [16:06:22] helrond | i'm glad nobody else here uses office 2010 either [16:06:24] mjg_ | lightning talks not being livestreamed, assuming they started [16:06:25] ---| ---> benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [16:06:27] JodiS | :) [16:06:33] ---| ---> brendan2 [~brendan@ip184-189-236-18.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:06:33] JodiS | mjg_ I've got stream here [16:06:36] ejk | BillDueber++ [16:06:36] lbjay | BillDueber++ [16:06:37] * rsinger is actually freezing [16:06:40] dchud | wholebaby++ [16:06:41] davidWalker | BillDueber++ [16:06:41] jaf | BillDueber++ [16:06:42] ---| ---> danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:06:42] mbklein | BillDueber++ BillDueber++ BillDueber++ BillDueber++ [16:06:44] duspal | Deuber++ [16:06:46] JodiS | wholebaby? [16:06:46] mjg_ | shoot, not working here. [16:06:46] julia_ | Lightning talks are being live-streamed. [16:06:47] lbjay | my wife is going to give me hell [16:06:49] chelociraptor | whole_body++ [16:06:50] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:06:51] * JodiS didn't get that one [16:06:53] anarchivist | require 'wholebaby' [16:06:55] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:06:59] anna3lc | head_only++ [16:07:07] mbklein JodiS: lbjay's presentation had floating baby heads in it. [16:07:11] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:07:13] JodiS | thanks mbklein :) [16:07:19] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:07:19] zoia | Is that... J from Dinosaur Jr? [16:07:19] ---| <<-- mcdonald1 [~Adium@108.98.5.97] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:07:19] pberry | Bazinga [16:07:24] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:07:24] gsf | self-selected_freaks++ [16:07:25] chelociraptor | anna3lc-- [16:07:26] atz | BillDueber++ [16:07:43] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [16:07:44] lbjay | @select freak [16:07:46] zoia | lbjay: I think there's a private google wave on that topic [16:07:47] mbklein | @tweet BillDueber: 45% of all sessions involve a single action: SEARCH #c4l11 [16:07:48] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [16:08:01] dchud | this is a ton of slides for a lightning talk but he's pulling it off great [16:08:04] MrDys | can't wait to get a hold of thse slides [16:08:15] atz | these are bomb stats [16:08:26] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [16:08:29] JodiS | yeah, known item searches are useful [16:08:30] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [16:08:31] lbjay | @ana droppin the stat bomb [16:08:31] anna3lc | we care so they don't have to [16:08:32] zoia | lbjay: Not drabbest, hot pimp [16:08:36] mbklein | I'm pretty psyched about there being an archived streaming version of this. [16:08:38] dchud | woah [16:08:38] MrDys | @ana bomb stats [16:08:39] zoia | MrDys: Stab tombs [16:08:43] JodiS | and getting to shelf browse can help if you get something reasonable at the top [16:08:47] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:08:49] robcaSSon | BillDueber++ [16:08:58] rsinger | "I've disembodied my baby's head so you don't have to" [16:09:05] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:09:05] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [16:09:05] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [16:09:06] mjg_ | what's BillDueber presenting on, for those of us hated by livestreaming? [16:09:06] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:09:06] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:09:06] ---| ---> gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [16:09:11] anna3lc | rsinger++ [16:09:12] ejk | prev_next_back-- [16:09:14] MrDys | mjg_: opac stats [16:09:15] eefcee | clap [16:09:17] ---| ---> BigD1 [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:09:18] pberry | BillDueber++ [16:09:20] anna3lc | BillDueber++ [16:09:20] ---| User: *** robcaSSon is now known as old_testament_go [16:09:20] jtgorman | mjg_: awesome stats [16:09:24] JodiS | CDL++ [16:09:25] mbklein | BillDueber++ [16:09:28] ---| User: *** old_testament_go is now known as oldTestamentGod [16:09:29] danwho | We put a "where's the restroom" link our opac. [16:09:30] eefcee | BillDueber++ [16:09:30] gsf | mjg_: his merlin catalog stats [16:09:31] ejk | BillDueber++ [16:09:38] rsinger | BullDueber++ [16:09:41] tokeee | BillDueber++ [16:09:42] ---| User: *** oldTestamentGod is now known as robcaSSon [16:09:45] dbs | BillDueber++ [16:09:47] jdwyn | BillDueber++ [16:09:48] dlovins | BIllDueber++ [16:09:48] JodiS | BillDueber: thinking aggregation with the Hubberfield UK stats maybe? [16:09:51] rsinger | sorry, i meant [16:09:52] gsf | geez [16:09:53] lbjay | @takify tacos4lib [16:09:54] zoia | Ť Ẫ Ḉ Ṍ Ṩ 4 Ł Í ℬ [16:09:55] jtgorman | ie 45% people just do a search [16:09:58] gsf | @karma BillDueber [16:09:59] highermath_aw | so how many folks just go to the search page and stare at the logo? [16:09:59] zoia | gsf: Karma for "BillDueber" has been increased 261 times and decreased 13 times for a total karma of 248. [16:10:00] rsinger | "BullDueber"++ [16:10:04] dchud | BillDueber++ [16:10:07] mjg_ | livestream-- livestream-- livestream-- [16:10:07] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:10:15] lbjay | mjg_: WALK DOWN THE HALL [16:10:15] edsu | mjg_: ? [16:10:18] highermath_aw | BillDueber++ [16:10:19] julia_ | And *now* the livestream is gone. [16:10:19] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:10:26] davidWalker | mine still works [16:10:27] mjg_ | lbjay: w-w-walk? [16:10:28] * jbrinley still has a livestream [16:10:34] eefcee | live_stream still up here in MN [16:10:36] ejk | live_stream++ [16:10:37] JodiS | slides are here for better viewing at your seat: http://btingle.bitbucket.org/c4l11/ [16:10:39] * edsu still has livestream too [16:10:44] ---| <<-- benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:10:45] julia_ | Interesting. I'm in Iowa, so it's not a wireless problem.... [16:10:47] dbs | livestream looks fine to me (now that I fired up Windows in a VM) [16:10:48] cbeer | mjg_: i couldn't get the livestream to work for me either -- i thought UI was just IP blocking local IPs [16:10:56] lbjay | maybe they got smart and started blocking the stream from local ips [16:11:03] mjg_ | could be. sounds like a typical enterprise tactic. [16:11:11] edsu | why are people watching the livestream if they are there? [16:11:12] mjg_ | enterprise means being an asshole. [16:11:15] lbjay | cbeer++ jinx [16:11:16] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:11:22] cbeer | edsu: we want to get the same experience you are? [16:11:24] anna3lc | edsu: because they were too lazy to come back from the h-suite [16:11:26] julia_ | I'm not there -- I'm allowed to watch the livestream! [16:11:26] JodiS | "Facebook for dead people" [16:11:26] mjg_ | edsu: trying to watch from the h-suite. :) [16:11:29] lbjay | edsu: lazy [16:11:31] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:11:32] ---| ---> slamm1 [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has joined #code4lib [16:11:32] atz | edsu: just to be dicks [16:11:34] ---| ---> benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [16:11:35] julia_ | (It's back now.) [16:11:35] timmcgeary | that's awesome [16:11:37] dchud | remainsbook++ [16:11:37] davidWalker | facebook_for_dead_people++ [16:11:38] zoia | RT @bot4lib: BillDueber: 45% of all sessions involve a single action: SEARCH #c4l11 ; RT @yo_bj: RT @bot4lib: BillDueber: 45% of all sessions involve a single action: SEARCH #c4l11 [16:11:41] younga | "Facebook for dead people" [16:11:41] edsu | anna3lc: ahah :-) [16:11:55] jbrinley | @ana facebook for dead people [16:11:56] zoia | jbrinley: Beaker of po-faced poodle [16:11:57] atz | SkullFaceBook [16:11:59] anna3lc | i see jquery [16:12:00] jaf | "I friend dead people" [16:12:08] dchud | jaf++ [16:12:09] timmcgeary | jaf++ [16:12:11] pberry | Zombiebook [16:12:20] jtgorman | wow, the internetz are so fast without mjg_.... [16:12:20] mbklein | jaf++ [16:12:27] edsu | @scalia corporate bodies [16:12:27] zoia | edsu: corporate 'bodies' [16:12:29] skome | Are Livestream and Ustream roughly equivalent? Ad supported free streams, no archives. [16:12:30] rsinger | jaf++ [16:12:36] dchud | sucks to follow BillDueber with a faceted interface. looks good, though. [16:12:41] MrDys | ustream allows archives [16:12:42] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:12:51] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:13:05] atz | nice prototype sticker graphic [16:13:08] gsf | dchud: yeah, shout "but no one clicks on that!" [16:13:10] anna3lc | like the feedback button [16:13:11] ---| ---> KingNightWolf [9c383b39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.57] has joined #code4lib [16:13:11] ---| <<-- BigD [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:13:13] rsinger | @eightball Are dead people the secret sauce that makes it web scale? [16:13:13] zoia | rsinger: It is possible. [16:13:16] edsu | i wonder what graph db they are using [16:13:17] robcaSSon | amoebas for dead people [16:13:26] pberry | It's funny to see postal service -- [16:13:27] bmljenny | Can I poke Ben Franklin? [16:13:28] ---| ---> mattriehle [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:13:35] mbklein | mcdonald2: Are the streams being archived/made available later? Or is it live and done? [16:13:45] pberry | Why they hatt [16:13:49] ---| <<-- milkya_ [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:13:49] atz | archival auth control? crazytalk. but cool. [16:13:53] ---| ---> chickmarkley_ [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:13:54] pberry | Hating on Postal Servie [16:13:58] jtgorman | dchud needs a cane [16:14:04] jbrinley | mbklein: http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/code4lib/program/sessions.php seems to imply that they'll be archived [16:14:05] JodiS | http://socialarchive.iath.virginia.edu/xtf/search looks like a cool way to interact with archival records [16:14:05] edsu | atz: yeah, i dig this project [16:14:18] KingNightWolf | I just got a vulnerability blocke alert... someone is portscanning [16:14:20] mbklein | jbrinley++ cool [16:14:25] mcdonald2 | mbklein: there is an archive and then we wil produce individual speaker chunks for inclusion in iu scholarworks and in internet archive [16:14:26] ---| ---> schemer [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has joined #code4lib [16:14:27] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ecorrado) [16:14:33] mbklein | speaker_chunks++ [16:14:37] mbklein | mcdonald++ [16:14:42] lbjay | j-rock++ [16:14:43] JodiS | jrochkind++ [16:14:47] edsu | jrock++ [16:14:48] pberry | Sucka [16:14:48] JodiS | daring++ [16:14:49] dlovins | tingle++ [16:14:49] chelociraptor | chunks_of_speakers++ [16:14:49] lbjay | FAIL [16:14:50] mbklein | jrochkind++ [16:14:53] duspal | doomed++ [16:14:58] anna3lc | popups explosion [16:15:00] davidWalker | jrochkind++ # living on the edge [16:15:04] jaf | I don't really think he understands the risks, i really don't :) [16:15:07] * JodiS laughs [16:15:08] ejk | Without a net [16:15:09] robcaSSon | jrochkind++ [16:15:12] anarchivist | jrochkind++ [16:15:19] timmcgeary | jrochkind++ [16:15:25] highermath_aw | jrochkind++ [16:15:30] mbklein | jrochkind++ [16:15:35] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [16:15:35] mjg_ | jrochkind did something, apparently. [16:15:35] * jbrinley wishes he could see the screen [16:15:36] eefcee | steam the screen... [16:15:43] robcaSSon | jrocks internal dialogue [16:15:44] dchud | jrochkind++ [16:15:45] eefcee | um, stream [16:15:47] lbjay | nobody else having mic problems. bah. [16:15:54] davidWalker | stream the screen! [16:15:56] jbrinley | yay, screen [16:15:59] pberry | 2 min in... [16:16:01] * highermath is lucky to just see the screen [16:16:02] mbklein | lbjay: Sucks to be tall [16:16:17] anarchivist | @ana widget factory [16:16:18] zoia | anarchivist: Witty of graced [16:16:26] jaf | jrochkind has the brave ++ [16:16:34] pberry | Ha [16:16:38] davidWalker | wha? [16:16:41] edsu | psychic programming! [16:16:50] jtgorman | jaf: now I have "Brave brave Sir Robin" stuck in my head [16:17:10] dchud | brave brave sir rochkind, he bravely coded ahead [16:17:15] ---| <--- schemer [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has left #code4lib () [16:17:23] BillDueber | jtgorman: When danger reared it's ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled [16:17:25] pberry | git revert [16:17:33] mbklein | lightning coder [16:17:36] jaf | live invisible code demo [16:17:38] JodiS | fontup, though [16:17:40] JodiS | jaf++ [16:17:40] dchud | vim++ [16:17:45] BillDueber | It's written in *invisible* virtual ink [16:17:53] pberry | Emporers new code [16:17:55] jaf | I'm sitting close enough I can vouch there was code there [16:18:09] mbklein | @sing Monty Python : Sir Robin [16:18:11] zoia | mbklein: No lyrics found for Sir Robin by Monty Python [16:18:20] timmcgeary | answer it [16:18:21] pberry | Hahaha [16:18:21] lbjay | @cluephone jrochkind [16:18:22] BillDueber | Take the call! [16:18:22] zoia | BBRRRRrrringgg! It's for jrochkind [16:18:23] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [16:18:23] JodiS | jrock++ [16:18:23] davidWalker | jrochkind++ [16:18:28] BillDueber | lbjay++ [16:18:32] dchud | wtf he made his phone ring with jquery [16:18:36] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:18:38] lbjay | dchud++ [16:18:39] mbklein | dchud++ [16:18:39] ---| <<-- shammer [4a4b7247@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.114.71] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:18:41] jaf | jrochkind++ [16:18:42] anna3lc | dchud++ [16:18:42] timmcgeary | dchud++ [16:18:44] davidWalker | dchud++ [16:18:46] robcaSSon | mbklein called him [16:18:48] chelociraptor | dchud++ [16:18:50] ---| ---> asl2 [~asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [16:18:51] mbklein | did not [16:18:53] ---| <--- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:18:55] timmcgeary | ah, it was the call back stuff [16:18:58] robcaSSon | it's all staged [16:19:01] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:19:02] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:19:03] dchud | timmcgeary++ [16:19:04] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:19:04] zoia | I've got a coke in my pocket *and* I'm happy to see you. [16:19:06] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:19:07] jkeck | jrochkind++ # All the way from California [16:19:09] davidWalker | timmcgeary++ [16:19:11] anna3lc | jrochkind++ [16:19:16] julia_ | jrochkind++ [16:19:16] BigD1 | this is one of my fav parts of c4l [16:19:18] jdwyn | jrochkind++ [16:19:19] mbklein | $('#jrock').select('phone').ring() [16:19:22] ---| <<-- eligerman [81079e73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.7.158.115] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:19:22] ---| User: *** BigD1 is now known as BigD [16:19:24] dchud | this is jaron [16:19:26] robcaSSon | mbklein++ [16:19:26] mjg_ | BigD: what is? [16:19:29] anarchivist | jaron++ [16:19:30] mjg_ | BigD: lightning talks? [16:19:31] atz | jrochkind++ [16:19:32] JodiS | EAD 2nd up [16:19:32] BigD | lighning talks [16:19:32] dchud | er, jaron1 [16:19:35] BillDueber | @who called jrochkind [16:19:35] zoia | spaldo called jrochkind. [16:19:36] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:19:39] dchud | jrochkind++ [16:19:40] helrond | painful ead is painful [16:19:44] akorphan | Wait!? Toys or tools?! [16:19:46] pberry | Toys. Word of the day [16:19:47] mbklein | @caresabout ead [16:19:48] davidWalker | who is this talking? [16:19:49] zoia | mbklein: ead doesn't seem to care about anything. [16:19:51] dlovins | jrochkind++ [16:19:52] lbjay | spaldo: ahhh, revenge! [16:19:54] anna3lc | @decide toys or tools [16:19:55] zoia | anna3lc: go with tools [16:19:56] mbklein | davidWalker: Jason Ronallo, aka jaron [16:19:57] anarchivist | @hate ead [16:19:59] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. anarchivist hates ead. [16:20:05] robcaSSon | @whocares ead [16:20:06] zoia | anarchivist hates ead [16:20:12] ---| ---> jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:20:12] zoia | find / -name 'jrochkind' -exec chmod 0000 '{}' \; [16:20:15] BillDueber | JodiS: Ref to Hubberfield stats? [16:20:17] JodiS | oh, ++ to whoever fixed Weds + Thurs signups to day of :) [16:20:24] JodiS | BillDueber, sure, give me a minute [16:20:30] jrochkind | that was 1-800- AjaxyDialog [16:20:39] mbklein | mead++ [16:20:43] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [16:20:44] robcaSSon | jrochkind++ [16:20:47] ---| ---> jlhardes [8cb69428@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.40] has joined #code4lib [16:20:50] ---| ---> bertrama_ [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [16:20:58] akorphan | mmm... mead.... [16:21:35] timmcgeary | now THAT was lightning fast [16:21:43] JodiS | pmurray++ [16:21:50] yo_bj | mead++ [16:21:52] dchud | we had mead at the end of last year's code4libcon [16:21:53] timmcgeary | remnants? [16:21:56] pberry | Thats a lot of nets [16:21:57] BillDueber | jaron++ [16:21:58] ---| <--- mcdonald2 [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:21:59] druthb | Minor Announcement: Koha geeks, friends of Koha geeks, and folks who want to be (or learn about being) Koha geeks, there will be a hackfest/bull session after the reception tonight, in room 401 of the hotel. Plan for 8:30 for that. Plenty of power outlets, and wireless access is good up there. [16:22:00] davidWalker | code4libnet [16:22:00] scolford | they cast a wide 'net [16:22:12] BillDueber | pberry: They can afford it. jrochkind was working without one [16:22:12] dchud | just *once* i'd like to see him in a jester's hat [16:22:17] ---| ---> fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:22:20] pberry | jaron++ [16:22:27] JodiS | BillDueber: maybe it's not relevant, they're mostly circ stats: http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/category/library-stuff/usage-data [16:22:30] BillDueber | dchud: But a sad jester's hat. [16:22:36] spaldo | lbjay: hah heh heh. was thinking the same thing, sorta. [16:22:36] BillDueber | JodiS++ # thanks! [16:22:43] dchud | BillDueber: exactly. you're feelin' me. [16:22:55] JodiS | Do you know anybody at U Oklahoma? There's been interesting work from the BOSS catalog stats [16:23:08] atz | no federated search option? [16:23:10] dchud | that's an odd chart. [16:23:11] gsf | doesn't look like "by far" to me [16:23:14] ---| ---> tracyjo [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has joined #code4lib [16:23:14] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:23:16] timmcgeary | federated_search-- [16:23:21] BillDueber | JodiS: I don't think so, but I'm not afraid to cold-call them. [16:23:29] gregjansen | toy [16:23:36] BillDueber | ANYONE HERE FROM UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA???? [16:23:37] JodiS | Dave Pattern :) [16:23:46] JodiS | oh, no he's the Huddersfield person [16:23:50] JodiS | dunno about U Ok [16:23:56] highermath | my Drupal slides are up at http://is.gd/rDt1a3 [16:23:56] zoia | highermath: I believe you're referring to olsont_ [~olsont@156-56-58-94.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:24:03] jrochkind | UK is only one letter away from UoK [16:24:06] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:24:13] lbjay | @rate motherhubbards motherhudders [16:24:14] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:24:16] pberry | Holy urls Batman [16:24:17] zoia | lbjay: motherhubbards: ?; motherhudders: ?. [16:24:29] ---| <<-- spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit () [16:24:30] JodiS | Bill Dueber: Anne M. Prestamo is who I'm thinking of, she's got slides/audio here: http://www.smith.edu/libraries/staff/fivecoll/nextgen.htm [16:24:34] ---| <<-- olsont_ [~olsont@156-56-58-94.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:24:36] highermath | that was pretty impressive. [16:24:37] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [16:24:43] anarchivist | mélon! [16:24:45] JodiS | opensource++ [16:24:51] JodiS | that rocks! [16:24:51] BigD | beer++ [16:24:54] ranti | druthb: I'll see if i can announce that Koha get together, if time allows. [16:24:55] ejk | live_stream++ // See y'all tomorrow [16:24:58] ---| ---> spaldo [~christoph@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:25:14] ---| <--- ejk [~kloostere@odie.aadl.org] has left #code4lib () [16:25:17] BillDueber | JodiS++ yet again! [16:25:26] druthb | thanks, ranti. :D I appreciate it. Anyone is welcome. [16:25:33] timmcgeary | fresh meat? [16:25:33] dchud | or oss4lib that's actually up to date [16:25:34] ndushay | mmm. freshmeat. [16:25:35] dchud | that++ [16:25:36] gsf | dchudnov [16:25:43] eefcee | Mr. Chud! [16:25:44] JodiS | hopefully it's a tagging system on an existing repository [16:25:49] mbklein | chud++ [16:25:53] pberry | matrix [16:25:54] dchud | eefcee: Mr. Cee! [16:25:55] mbklein | C.H.U.D.-- [16:25:56] sesuncedu | Hang the chud [16:26:03] JodiS | pmurray isn't on twitter? [16:26:05] spaldo | kicked off again! [16:26:11] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:26:20] gsf | @takify durachud [16:26:21] zoia | Ď Ų Ȓ Ã Ḉ Ḩ Ü Ɗ [16:26:24] pberry | Maybe something that uses MARC codes [16:26:24] timmcgeary | to recruit you to work for us [16:26:33] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:26:35] jtgorman | sure, the registry starts all innocent-like, but then the Sentinels launch to get all the muties [16:26:36] mbklein | @decide takify or zalgo [16:26:36] zoia | mbklein: go with zalgo [16:26:39] robcaSSon | @who needs a new job? [16:26:40] zoia | gmcharlt needs a new job. [16:26:46] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:26:48] BillDueber | tbw++ [16:26:50] sesuncedu | jtgorman: No More Mutants [16:26:51] ndushay | @who is hiring [16:26:51] zoia | nabeta is hiring. [16:26:52] eefcee | live_stream++ # boy is this fun, no work getting done here! [16:26:52] lbjay | HE'S TALL! [16:27:00] timmcgeary | no_slides++ [16:27:03] mbklein | two, Two, TWO Michiganders in the Lightning Talks! [16:27:06] atz | hathi++ [16:27:09] timmcgeary | hottie_trust++ [16:27:09] harvel | no_slides++ [16:27:10] duspal | No slides? This is madness! [16:27:12] mbklein | lbjay: Guess it was just you, then. :D [16:27:12] BillDueber | lbjay: I've known him for three years, and I still always expect him to speak with a british accent [16:27:19] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:27:20] timmcgeary | trusting_hotties-- [16:27:22] pberry | No time for slides! [16:27:27] ndushay | BillDueber++ [16:27:28] BillDueber | Note that's 8M volumes, not titles [16:27:30] eefcee | hey, don't kick the live_stream! [16:27:30] sesuncedu | BillDueber: No time for marmite [16:27:35] mbklein | @hussein hathi trust [16:27:36] zoia | mbklein: Hurt his enthusiast [16:27:42] mbklein | @hussein hottie trust [16:27:43] zoia | mbklein: This heinous stutter [16:27:45] robcaSSon | BillDueber++ # british accent [16:27:45] timmcgeary | zoia++ [16:27:49] MrDys | that's-a a big index-a [16:27:52] sesuncedu | Wait - Huffer trust? [16:27:53] chelociraptor | duspal: This is Sparta! [16:27:54] atz | reeedonkulous data [16:27:55] ---| ---> pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has joined #code4lib [16:28:19] atz | did he say the index was 7 TB ? [16:28:20] edsu | JUST TELL HOW MANY NODES! [16:28:22] mbklein | "large scale" actually means something. Unlike "web scale" [16:28:24] timmcgeary | large scale hottie? [16:28:35] BillDueber | edsu: "nodes" meaning "shards"? 12 [16:28:36] tokeee | atz: Yes [16:28:41] edsu | SHARDING! [16:28:44] mbklein | edsu: Forget the nodes! HOW MANY BUKKITS?! [16:28:46] dchud | "BigD-scale" [16:28:51] gsf | 40 days to index? [16:28:53] sesuncedu | Very Large Scale [16:28:53] atz | freeegin' 'uuuge. [16:28:54] duspal | chelociraptor: I knew someone would knock that down [16:28:59] gsf | whoa [16:29:05] mjg_ | BigD doesn't scale. [16:29:07] BillDueber | gsf: Not anymore [16:29:09] gsf | and 40 nights? [16:29:10] pberry | 40 nights as well? [16:29:15] gsf | pberry++ [16:29:20] akorphan | pberry owes gsf a coke. [16:29:22] BillDueber | gsf++ [16:29:24] sesuncedu | Almost six tools [16:29:25] pberry | Jinxed again [16:29:28] mjg_ | "we only index during business hours" [16:29:30] timmcgeary | @ana lucene solr geeks [16:29:30] zoia | timmcgeary: Keen recluses log [16:29:31] snail | mbklein: 'web scale' is a medical condition, it's a skin condition caused by too much time sitting on your arse watching bad pron [16:29:44] edsu | we drop kicked the power grid in Michigan [16:29:49] davidWalker | nice [16:29:49] timmcgeary | snail++ [16:29:50] * BigD broke the scale [16:29:51] robcaSSon | snail++ [16:29:52] scolford | snail++ [16:29:52] BillDueber | 12 machines, each with 16 cores and 76GB RAM [16:30:07] gsf | and korean! don't forget korean! [16:30:10] mbklein | The worst part was that every night they'd threaten to kill the index in the morning, but the facets were just so good... [16:30:14] pberry | Jeebus [16:30:18] BillDueber | gsf: Thai, too. And a few others [16:30:26] gsf | BillDueber: whatevz [16:30:33] ---| ---> demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has joined #code4lib [16:30:39] akorphan | mbklein: Eventaully, they kept the index on as a valet... [16:30:44] BillDueber | If everyone would just speak American this wouldn't be a problem [16:30:51] BigD | amen [16:30:52] JodiS | oops, tokenization is hard in CK [16:30:52] pberry | Right? [16:31:01] lbjay | BillDueber: did they have to tweak the standard solr similarity algorithm? [16:31:04] ndushay | BillDueber: you mean Bill Dueber american [16:31:07] dbs | And OCLC is going to gobble up HathiTrust... and BillDueber? [16:31:15] BillDueber | ndushay: Ya, youbetcha I do, yessir. [16:31:17] mbklein | akorphan: See, I was all Scheherazade, and you were all Dread Pirate Roberts. [16:31:24] dchud | i'm excited for nabeta's talk. the work he's done on next-l is very impressive. [16:31:25] edsu | developer_environment++ [16:31:27] JodiS | it's so strange. I thought Hathi was pronounced with a th sound. Sounds like hotti to me [16:31:28] BillDueber | lbjay: I don't think they've done that at all [16:31:28] sesuncedu | As you wish [16:31:29] robcaSSon | dbs: i was asking tom a bit about the oclc deal...thingy [16:31:29] pberry | Or shower them with money [16:31:32] jrochkind | dbs: OCLC HathiTrust you're just surmising, or you've heard something? I think that's unlikely. [16:31:32] JodiS | of course Hathi is hot, so... [16:31:44] jaf | edc++ for keeping this going smoothly [16:31:46] anna3lc | developer environment is swimming pool full of 20s [16:31:46] BillDueber | JodiS: it's pronounced like 'hah-tee' [16:31:47] ---| <<-- tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:31:47] jrochkind | oh, there IS a HathiTrust OCLC thingy? Dammit. [16:31:48] BigD | yay! esme! [16:31:49] JodiS | the INDEX is 7 TB??? [16:31:50] jaron1 | http://www.hottietrust.com/ [16:31:50] akorphan | mbklein: Ah, literature. [16:31:51] ndushay | royt: why aren't you givng a lightening talk? [16:31:53] gsf | JodiS: true, but really tokenization is difficult in any language [16:32:00] JodiS | dam those DAMs [16:32:02] BillDueber | JodiS: Yep. 8M volumes of full text. [16:32:06] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [16:32:11] jrochkind | oh wait, i heard that OCLC is going ot harvest HathiTrust data. That's fine. [16:32:13] lbjay | BillDueber: we're looking at something called SweetSpotSimilarity. the default similarity can punish longer documents [16:32:20] JodiS | gsf: I guess, but don't you mostly just break on spaces in English? [16:32:28] gsf | ndushay: don't imply that royt has something enlightening to say [16:32:32] akorphan | ndushay: royt is having a colocation problem. [16:32:32] scolford | oh that's pretty. I must copy that. [16:32:33] ---| ---> karenh [~chatzilla@156-56-58-105.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:32:35] tokeee | What is insane is the amount of unique terms due to dirty OCR and the 400 different languages [16:32:39] sesuncedu | gsf: tokenisation is not too hard in roman script languages [16:32:44] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-lvzerqxygdvyubhu] has quit (Quit: skoczko) [16:32:45] JodiS | really impressed with this stream [16:32:51] JodiS | seriously raises the bar for Seattle! [16:32:54] sesuncedu | dirty OCR [16:32:54] JodiS | IU++ [16:32:57] ndushay | who is speaking now? [16:33:05] robcaSSon | tokenization+- # case change, hyphens (sometimes), etc [16:33:07] mbklein | ndushay: escowles [16:33:07] BillDueber | lbjay: we'll have to take a look at it. To be honest, I don't think they've worried much about quality of results as of yet. The OCT is too damn dirty. [16:33:15] scolford | only mine won't be that big. [16:33:15] BigD | ndushay: esme cowles from my shop [16:33:15] mbklein | ndushay: Esme Cowles from SDSC [16:33:17] BillDueber | s/OCT/OCR/ [16:33:21] eefcee | ipad++ [16:33:23] robcaSSon | escowles++ [16:33:27] bmljenny | UCSD not sdsc [16:33:28] akorphan | code4lib_pronounced_with_long_i-- [16:33:30] bmljenny | Ahem [16:33:31] mbklein | er, UCSD [16:33:32] ---| ---> hcayless [~hcayless@99-173-133-217.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code4lib [16:33:32] tokeee | mistyping_ocr++ [16:33:35] mbklein | Yeah [16:33:38] BigD | UCSD NOT SDSC [16:33:39] jbrinley | velocity-- # /me has never liked them [16:33:42] BigD | mbklein: grr [16:33:50] ndushay | @ana ucsd not sdsc [16:33:51] zoia | ndushay: DSS conducts [16:34:01] gluejar | code4lib_pronounced_with_long_i-- [16:34:05] BillDueber | BigD: Eh. SDSC, UCSD. Tomato, tomahto [16:34:05] atz | you can tell the folks who came out of libraries (not programming), b/c they tend to do the long i [16:34:10] mjg_ | libe-- lib++ [16:34:11] dbs | jrochkind: just a worldcat local thing. for now. (dah dah DAH!) [16:34:11] BillDueber | gluejar++ [16:34:14] mbklein | bmljenny / BigD: My apologies. Fingers typed before brain engaged. :) [16:34:17] sesuncedu | SDSC - the people who brought you iRods. [16:34:18] bmljenny | Unless that's how we found out he has a new job. D'oh! [16:34:19] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:34:21] ndushay | I do the long i [16:34:29] ndushay | I are a programmer [16:34:30] jaf | mobile_image_display++ [16:34:32] BillDueber | ndushay: Yes, you do. And you're WRONG! [16:34:33] jrochkind | dbs: you sure it won't be in worldcat.org in general, not just people who pay for Local? I think it will be. [16:34:43] lbjay | sibylschaefer: what a girly gmail theme you have [16:34:50] mbklein | mjg_: Pronouncing it with a long U would just be wrong. [16:34:53] gsf | lbjay: creep [16:34:56] bmljenny | Can we compromise on code-for-leeb? [16:35:00] dbs | jrochkind: http://www.hathitrust.org/blogs/hathitrust-oclc [16:35:03] sibylschaefer | lbjay Isn't is purdy? [16:35:08] atz | everybody loves the round corners. [16:35:15] ndushay | code4lied [16:35:16] scolford | code-for-leeb++ # more french please [16:35:16] sesuncedu | jurst wern waffer theen leeb [16:35:19] sibylschaefer | it damnit [16:35:20] atz | code4leeks [16:35:23] jrochkind | dbs: but regardless, HathiTrust (unlike say OAISter) is setting themselves up organizationally for the long haul, there's an actual multi-institution collaborative with a corporate entity and funding structure. I don't see HT being absorbed by OCLC. IF OCLC wants to harvest their data and do whatever OCLC wants to do with it, the more the merrier, open data. [16:35:24] ndushay | code4leid? [16:35:26] sesuncedu | ElfenLib [16:35:30] mjg_ | mbklein++ [16:35:31] ndushay | code lied. [16:35:32] mbklein | lbjay: I noticed that earlier. [16:35:32] gsf | bmljenny++ [16:35:33] robcaSSon | jbrinley: lucid keen on velocity templates? [16:35:34] bmljenny | I love traveling across the country to get a look at stuff at my own institution! [16:35:43] jaf | simplicity in UX++ [16:35:45] JodiS | @later tell wtd are you following davey pattern's project on circ stats? http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/1449 and older stuff http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/category/library-stuff/usage-data [16:35:45] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. [16:35:55] dbs | jrochkind: Geez, are you suggesting I'm against open data? [16:35:56] gluejar | jrochkind must have bionic fingers [16:35:57] davidWalker | not_maintaining_two_versions++ [16:35:57] mjg_ | @quote search Exupery [16:36:01] eefcee | escowles++ [16:36:02] zoia | mjg_: 1 found: #310: " You know you have..." [16:36:02] robcaSSon | was talking in the hall (briefly) with escowles and erikhatcher about this [16:36:03] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:36:04] mjg_ | @quote get 310 [16:36:05] jbrinley | robcaSSon: erikhatcher likes them, but most stuff is ruby these days [16:36:05] zoia | mjg_: Quote #310: " You know you have achieved perfection in design, not when you have nothing more to add, but when you have nothing more to take away." (added by ksclarke at 03:09 PM, May 19, 2006) [16:36:08] ---| ---> bmljenny_ [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:36:11] eefcee | ich liebe code [16:36:13] JodiS | coolness! 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He does great stuff with the circ data. We throw ours away, mostly. :( [16:36:29] danwho | escowles++ [16:36:31] eefcee | cleveland++ [16:36:33] robcaSSon | rockhall++ # jealous [16:36:34] ---| ---> scolford_also [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:36:34] ---| ---> mbklein1 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:36:38] JodiS | wtd: cool [16:36:42] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:36:42] ---| User: *** bmljenny_ is now known as bmljenny [16:36:44] ndushay | @ana code4lib [16:36:44] ndushay | I broke zoia! [16:36:44] ndushay | holy cow - i did break zoia [16:36:44] ---| ---> cazzerson_ [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:36:44] zoia | ndushay: Bold ice [16:36:44] * JodiS wants a global aggregation of library stats [16:36:47] davidWalker | iii-- [16:36:50] timmcgeary | @ana Rock n Roll Hall of Fame [16:36:50] zoia | timmcgeary: Fell half-normal crook [16:36:51] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:36:51] JodiS | hence the nudging of you, BillDueber, etc. :) [16:36:51] pberry | BUT ALL THOSE LINKS ARE IMPORTANT [16:36:51] jrochkind | yeah, "tailored HathiTrust interface using WorldCat Local." I think that means the worldcat.org platform, but you'll just be searching HT not actually searching WorldCat (or perhaps searching all of WC + HathiTrust, if you so choose). It's not clear to me if it will be aval to all OCLC members, but I believe so. [16:36:52] sesuncedu | iii-- [16:36:53] akorphan | ibahn-- [16:36:56] sesuncedu | wait reflex [16:37:00] ---| ---> pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:37:00] lbjay | JodiS: i'm going to work on the irclog timeline. what were you saying about linking it up to the video? [16:37:05] ---| ---> dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:37:06] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:37:08] MrDys | hydra rears its ugly heads [16:37:12] wtd | Jodis: We might be starting up some provincial collection here in Ontario. I hope. [16:37:17] ---| ---> BigD1 [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:37:22] JodiS | Esme Cowles is such a beautiful name -- always makes me think of the JD Salinger novel [16:37:26] JodiS | wtd++ [16:37:26] ---| <<-- pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:37:30] dchud_ | wheedly-wheedly-whee! [16:37:31] BillDueber | The eventual home of the HathiTrust metadata catalog is supposed to be a customized Worldcat Local [16:37:35] BillDueber | "Development continues [16:37:35] ---| <<-- mattriehle [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:37:36] BillDueber | " [16:37:40] dbs | F11 for full screen! 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[16:38:05] ---| ---> stuartlewis [~stuartlew@s-lewis.itss.auckland.ac.nz] has joined #code4lib [16:38:06] MrDys | I sure hope he calls this instance 'Hydrox' [16:38:14] gsf | dbs: no time for that [16:38:17] ---| ---> cwlown [~cwlown@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:38:21] eefcee | fieldsRus [16:38:21] ---| ---> Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:38:22] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [16:38:25] dchud_ | THE GOGGLES THEY DO NAHTHINK [16:38:26] pberry | lag-- [16:38:32] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:38:41] gsf | lolchud++ [16:38:41] jrochkind | hydrizzle [16:38:42] akorphan | first mover disadvantage: Hydrox is the original creme and chocolate wafer cookie -- Oreo's the imitator! [16:38:53] scolford_also | MrDys++ [16:38:57] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:39:04] ---| <<-- slamm1 [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:39:04] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:39:04] ---| <<-- willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:39:04] ndushay | index in Solr, not blacklight [16:39:12] BillDueber | hydrox++ # my great-grandma always had them around [16:39:13] ---| <<-- Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:39:16] ---| ---> ccurry_ [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:39:18] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Quit: Goodbye World) [16:39:22] sesuncedu | Who was that masked man? The Hydranger? 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I'd watch that. [16:40:00] knickum | over 18 crowd only [16:40:01] anna3lc | grr internet [16:40:14] ---| ---> mbklein2 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:40:16] ---| ---> ccurry__ [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:40:19] JodiS | Bill Dueber: re hathi trust, William Gunn suggests Hadoop: http://twitter.com/mrgunn/status/35089276752498688 [16:40:19] ranti | laggy_internet-- [16:40:20] zoia | @atzberger @jschneider Someone should really tell them about Hadoop, sounds like. #c4l11 [16:40:20] flyingzumwalt | "naughty little doggy" [16:40:22] ---| <<-- chickmarkley_ [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [16:40:32] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:40:40] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:40:49] ---| ---> yegusa_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:40:53] ---| <<-- mbklein1 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:40:55] ndushay | speak, and ye feed can freeze up [16:41:01] ---| <<-- kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:41:03] sibylschaefer | I miss the gong [16:41:07] gsf | lightning_talks++ [16:41:14] ---| <<-- spaldo [~christoph@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:41:14] ---| <<-- mbklein2 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:41:16] ---| <<-- jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [16:41:18] dbs | @tweet I couldn't find anything about Hadoop in my 12 shards of Solr [16:41:19] zoia | dbs: The operation succeeded. [16:41:22] robcaSSon | gong++ [16:41:22] akorphan | PWANNNNNNGG [16:41:26] JodiS | dbs++ [16:41:28] sesuncedu | bdhl++ [16:41:41] ---| User: *** ccurry__ is now known as ccurry [16:41:44] pmurray | Haven't needed the gong yet... [16:41:46] JodiS | Just realized one of the things I love about the conference: getting to hear the voices of people I normally just type to [16:41:47] anna3lc | lag-- [16:41:48] ---| <<-- cwlown [~cwlown@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:42:10] BigD1 | high rez version of the bottles from last night http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6923768/Photo%20Feb%2008%2C%204%2041%2002%20PM.jpg [16:42:11] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:42:14] akorphan | ibahn-- [16:42:16] ---| User: *** yegusa_ is now known as yegusa [16:42:17] BillDueber | JodiS: I don't see where hadoop will be a win. The bottleneck is indexing in solr. [16:42:30] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [16:42:30] zoia | dammit, sharrow sucks [16:42:37] ---| <--- dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:42:38] robcaSSon | BigD-- [16:42:38] pyott | never thought I'd hear an iggy pop reference at code4lib! [16:42:40] BillDueber | BigD1 just broke the internet. 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[16:43:47] BigD | sesuncedu++ [16:43:48] mbklein | @quote get 1772 [16:43:49] zoia | mbklein: Quote #1772: " Open data == science. If your data isn't open then you are an alchemist." (added by mbklein at 04:33 PM, February 27, 2009) [16:43:49] JodiS | linked data != open data [16:43:55] danwho | Rustle of paper. I miss that. [16:43:58] JodiS | LOD = open data + more [16:44:05] ---| ---> anarchivist1 [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:44:05] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:44:07] JodiS | danwho: yeah, gives a talk a certain seriousness ) [16:44:08] JodiS | :) [16:44:08] mbklein | danwho: There's an app for that. [16:44:08] pjb2 | alchemy++ [16:44:09] sesuncedu | Linked data can be closed. [16:44:09] ranti | JodiS: coming to Seattle for #c4l12? [16:44:12] akorphan | JodiS: LOD = "lots of open data"? [16:44:13] ndushay | dang - did Bill and JRoch already speak? [16:44:14] ---| ---> dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:44:16] BigD | danwho: trish wears paper clothes? [16:44:17] JodiS | ranti: sure hope so [16:44:19] BillDueber | mbklein: You have the quote number memorized?? [16:44:22] JodiS | ndushay, yeah, sorry [16:44:35] mbklein | BillDueber: I call up a few of the gems regularly. [16:44:37] ---| ---> anna3lc__ [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:44:39] BillDueber | ndushay: And we were *awesome*. People cried. [16:44:39] JodiS | ndushay: keeping track of the order at http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_Lightning_Talks_Signup [16:44:44] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:44:48] dchud | so cool, there are several people watching in japan right now [16:44:52] danwho | JodiS: It perked me up [16:44:58] mjg_ | akorphan: linked open data [16:45:05] ---| ---> mattriehle_ [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:45:08] ndushay | i think it changed since i last refreshed [16:45:12] bmljenny | BHL++ [16:45:13] mbklein | BillDueber: Also, I use << /msg zoia quote search #code4lib >> for out of band searching [16:45:14] ndushay | i was caught in a f2f conversation [16:45:14] escowles | akorphan: linked open data, iirc [16:45:17] JodiS | sounds nice! BHL++ [16:45:18] scolford_also | Okay, who brought a spare wap? [16:45:18] BigD | dchud: how do you know? [16:45:19] jeff | @bandname add So Much Badness [16:45:19] MrDys | soap...haven't heard that in awhile [16:45:20] zoia | jeff: Add an Asian vibe without the learning curve! [16:45:20] BillDueber | soap-- , but it's better than nothing. [16:45:24] jeff | bah [16:45:25] dbs | BHL++ [16:45:27] danwho | BigD: Times are tough [16:45:41] atz | nothing--, soap-- # both suck [16:45:47] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:45:51] ---| <<-- mattriehle [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:45:52] ---| User: *** mattriehle_ is now known as mattriehle [16:45:53] BigD | i'm not sitting next to the soap-- ppl [16:45:54] pmurray | SOAP, it is better than III's API. [16:45:56] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:45:57] ---| <<-- cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:46:04] danwho | I sense a bong [16:46:10] MrDys | soap!....don't bring me doooooooowwwwwn [16:46:14] jeff | @band add So Much Badness [16:46:14] zoia | jeff: Band 'So Much Badness' added to list [16:46:23] sesuncedu | ITIS DB is cool too [16:46:26] danwho | Gong heh [16:46:27] ---| <<-- charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:46:29] ---| <<-- cazzerson_ [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:46:31] JodiS | I dig the connections they're making between things [16:46:34] jaf | netlag-- [16:46:36] ndushay | let the data go free! [16:46:37] BillDueber | YEAH! Proper licencing++ [16:46:37] ---| ---> cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:46:40] jrochkind | properly license? shocking! [16:46:43] BillDueber | CC0++ [16:46:47] atz | straight [16:46:52] highermath_aw | self-immolation, it's better than III's API [16:46:52] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:46:53] ---| User: *** anna3lc__ is now known as anna3lc [16:46:57] highermath_aw | III-- [16:46:59] ---| <<-- tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:46:59] atz | CreativeCommons++ [16:47:01] ---| <--- duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:47:05] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:47:10] pmurray | openoffice++ [16:47:13] sesuncedu | iii-- has an api? [16:47:17] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [16:47:20] sesuncedu | what next - a UI? [16:47:20] jtgorman | @quote random [16:47:21] zoia | jtgorman: Quote #32: " you know you're in trouble when you keep getting referred to w3c specification documents" (added by ksclarke at 02:24 PM, October 27, 2005) [16:47:31] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:47:32] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:47:37] highermath | sesuncedu: you got $$$, they have an API [16:47:46] ndushay | let the internet have more bandwidth! [16:47:52] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:48:11] timmcgeary | diet_library++ [16:48:14] jrochkind | anyone catch that url? [16:48:21] maruyama3 | nabeta ++ [16:48:23] * sesuncedu referred someone not just to a w3c document, but to the Hayes (2004) [16:48:31] highermath | In California, all libraries are diet libraries [16:48:31] timmcgeary | @ana National Diet Library [16:48:32] zoia | timmcgeary: Reliability and on rat [16:48:37] gsf | jrochkind: http://something [16:48:42] ---| ---> akohler [a4439833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.67.152.51] has joined #code4lib [16:48:42] maruyama3 | nabeta ++ [16:48:46] was | jrochkind: http://iss.ndl.go.jp/?locale=en [16:48:51] jrochkind | was++ [16:48:53] gsf | was++ [16:48:53] * sesuncedu RDF semantics spec [16:48:55] ---| ---> mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:00] ---| ---> altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:04] ---| <<-- pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:49:05] timmcgeary | nabeta++ [16:49:14] milkya | nabeta++ [16:49:20] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:49:27] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:29] anarchivist1 | @twit --from rosy1280 [16:49:30] zoia | anarchivist1: rosy1280: @declan is there a cvs nearby, sometimes they have scales near the pharmacy you can use [16:49:31] sesuncedu | In Japan, do they refer to CEK [16:49:33] BillDueber | It's so sad that "implemenets FRBR structure" is almost meaningless [16:49:34] ---| User: *** anarchivist1 is now known as anarchivist [16:49:35] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [16:49:35] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [16:49:38] MrDys | I like how it has an auto-translate checkbox based on the interface [16:49:42] gsf | code4lib_japan++ [16:49:42] ---| ---> ssmith [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has joined #code4lib [16:49:55] robcaSSon | code4lib_japan++ # no doubt [16:49:59] JodiS | BillDueber: indeed [16:50:01] maruyama3 | Next-L ++ [16:50:02] ---| ---> dchud_ [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:50:02] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:50:09] ---| <<-- altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:50:09] mjg_ | code4lib_japan++ [16:50:10] mtomko | hadoop. [16:50:15] jaf | ping [16:50:18] anna3lc | diagram++ [16:50:21] harvel | dataflow++ [16:50:25] pberry | Wow [16:50:26] jtgorman | awesome [16:50:28] was | best. slide. ever. [16:50:36] BigD | it's all greek to me [16:50:37] dchud_ | it does a heck of a lot! [16:50:37] scolford_also | code4lib_japan++ [16:50:38] highermath | some assembly required [16:50:40] atz | nice [16:50:48] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [16:50:53] bmljenny | SAY IT... all those links are important [16:50:57] sesuncedu | It's like iRODs with working code... [16:50:58] pberry | BigD: That wasn't Greek. [16:51:01] timmcgeary | network-- [16:51:04] * highermath now craves sushi [16:51:05] gsf | hope i can borrow that slide for my talk [16:51:06] pberry | Just sayin [16:51:07] BigD | that'd be a great slide for powerpoint karioke [16:51:08] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:51:13] dbs | http://iss.ndl.go.jp/?locale=en [16:51:18] ---| <<-- scolford_also [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Later, tater...) [16:51:21] dchud_ | if he didn't say it, NDL is the National Diet Library - the equiv. of LC in US. [16:51:24] escowles | ui looks good even when i can't read half the text [16:51:27] atz | http://www.next-l.jp/ # japanese [16:51:28] ---| ---> altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:51:30] anna3lc | BigD++ agree [16:51:31] ---| ---> ranti [~ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:51:31] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Baroquem) [16:51:35] anarchivist | Next-L++ [16:51:36] akorphan | the main screen is super dark [16:51:37] maruyama3 | dragonBall ++ [16:51:42] akorphan | MAIN SCREEN TURN ON! [16:51:47] anarchivist | c4ljp++ [16:51:47] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:51:48] sesuncedu | KA [16:51:49] sesuncedu | ME [16:51:52] sesuncedu | HA [16:51:53] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:51:54] sesuncedu | ME [16:51:58] sesuncedu | HAHHHHHHH [16:51:59] ---| <<-- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:52:00] helrond | dchud yeah, had to dig back into highschool government class for that one [16:52:05] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:52:09] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:52:11] maruyama3 | nabeta ++ NFL search++ [16:52:16] anna3lc | awesome [16:52:28] dbs | nabeta++ [16:52:31] gsf | hi! [16:52:31] pjb2 | friendliest ppt ever [16:52:38] davidWalker | hi! [16:52:43] atz | bshum++ [16:52:43] jrochkind | code4lib-geeks in the house! [16:52:44] maruyama3 | Hayashi ++ [16:52:51] anna3lc | love this. "i would like to discuss with code4lib-geeks about making discovery layer" [16:52:52] ---| ---> acdha [~acdha@pool-151-200-33-191.washdc.btas.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [16:52:53] jrochkind | again, is that an enterprise bus? [16:52:54] charper | nabeta++ [16:52:59] anarchivist | tzhaya++ [16:52:59] ---| ---> cazzerson_ [~cazzerson@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [16:52:59] ---| ---> jaf_ [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:53:00] JodiS | Code4LibJapan++ [16:53:06] robcaSSon | @damlev enterprise weed [16:53:06] zoia | robcaSSon: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "enterprise" and "weed" is 9. [16:53:07] charper | tzhaya++ [16:53:10] escowles | @karma escowles [16:53:10] zoia | escowles: Karma for "escowles" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [16:53:14] * dbs lols [16:53:17] mbklein | @most decreased [16:53:17] zoia mbklein: "iii": 134, "zoia": 71, "mbklein": 49, "edsu": 48, "lbjay": 43, "central_IT": 31, "robcaSSon": 30, "fedora": 25, "anarchivist": 25, "php": 19, "rsinger": 19, "solaris": 18, "mjgiarlo": 18, "dbs": 14, "java": 13, "BillDueber": 13, "windows": 12, "sakai": 11, "IE": 11, "snow": 10, "ibahn": 9, "kirtas": 9, "CONTENTdm": 9, "confluence": 9, and "perl": 9 [16:53:20] sibylschaefer | Affrit++ [16:53:21] jrochkind | davidWalker: just got a xerxes shoutout from japan [16:53:21] akorphan | Hold on, it took me 10 hours to get here from NC.... [16:53:23] maruyama3 | tzhaya++ [16:53:24] ---| <<-- jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:53:24] robcaSSon | xerxes shoutout [16:53:25] * gsf appreciates the reading off the slides [16:53:25] ---| User: *** jaf_ is now known as jaf [16:53:28] freqlurker | xeres++ [16:53:28] anna3lc | affrit++ [16:53:29] jdwyn | xerxes++ [16:53:29] sesuncedu | @translationparty I would like to discuss with code44lib-geeks about making discovery layer [16:53:31] akorphan | not counting the shuttle. Or waiting for the shuttle. [16:53:32] * mbklein is the most decreased human. Nice. [16:53:32] davidWalker | jrochkind: yeah, cool [16:53:33] freqlurker | xerxes++ [16:53:34] MrDys | xerxes represent [16:53:36] robcaSSon | davidWalker++ jrochkind++ [16:53:41] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [16:53:43] jdwyn | davidwalker++ [16:53:43] zoia | sesuncedu: I want to discuss geek - I have found to create a layer code44lib [16:53:45] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:53:51] pmurray | Feeling the love davidWalker? [16:53:52] robcaSSon | mbklein-- [16:53:56] mbklein | @most increased [16:53:56] zoia mbklein: "mbklein": 467, "edsu": 431, "anarchivist": 395, "zoia": 344, "mjgiarlo": 313, "MrDys": 296, "rsinger": 270, "dbs": 266, "BillDueber": 265, "lbjay": 261, "robcaSSon": 214, "jrochkind": 202, "eby": 147, "sesuncedu": 126, "jtgorman": 118, "royt": 117, "ksclarke": 104, "gsf": 104, "BigD": 97, "jbrinley": 96, "jeff": 87, "wickr": 80, "bess": 64, "atz": 60, and "davidWalker": 53 [16:53:58] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:53:59] freqlurker | davidwalker++ [16:54:09] sesuncedu | @karma iii [16:54:10] zoia | sesuncedu: Karma for "iii" has been increased 3 times and decreased 134 times for a total karma of -131. [16:54:11] BillDueber | Boy, giving a lightening talk does wonders for the karma [16:54:18] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:54:19] ---| ---> sciversedev [gvpbkn@69.41.165.101] has joined #code4lib [16:54:24] BillDueber | Who the hell increased iii' s karma??? [16:54:25] ---| <<-- altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:54:27] sesuncedu | lightening talk about National Diet Library [16:54:29] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [16:54:36] jrochkind | what would metalib do with ncip? [16:54:37] MrDys | it was surely ironic [16:54:40] ---| ---> Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:54:41] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:54:41] ---| User: *** Baroquem_ is now known as Baroquem [16:54:43] ---| <<-- sciversedev [gvpbkn@69.41.165.101] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:54:43] lbjay | davidWalker: you are small in japan [16:54:45] dchud | nabeta++ [16:55:03] ---| ---> sciversedev [cqozrs@69.41.165.101] has joined #code4lib [16:55:11] jrochkind | Which is a geek choice? = Hack or die = [16:55:12] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:55:12] jdwyn | die++ [16:55:13] scolford | hack_or_die++ [16:55:15] davidWalker | lol [16:55:17] atz | MrDys: actually i might have plus-plussed them after serials training. their serials are pretty good [16:55:19] ---| <<-- bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:55:20] knickum | cake [16:55:20] pberry | Nice [16:55:22] knickum | i mean hack [16:55:24] mbklein | BillDueber: Achievement Unlocked: TALKED TO REFERENCE LIBRARIAN [16:55:25] ---| <<-- sciversedev [cqozrs@69.41.165.101] has quit (Client Quit) [16:55:26] JodiS | Which is the geek choice: hack or die? 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[16:56:13] milkya | hayasi++ LEGO++ [16:56:17] ---| ---> sciversedev [grkljn@69.41.165.101] has joined #code4lib [16:56:18] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:56:18] JodiS | ranti!! [16:56:24] ---| <<-- fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:56:26] jrochkind | decasm: ping? [16:56:26] ---| <<-- ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:56:27] ---| ---> maccabee__ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:56:27] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:56:34] gsf | knickum++ [16:56:35] * pberry hides [16:56:36] anna3lc | floating-head++ [16:56:37] ---| ---> danwho_ [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:56:38] ---| ---> altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:56:42] WoodWork | +Q the chan? :P [16:56:55] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) [16:56:55] JodiS | @quote add Which is the geek choice: hack or die? [16:56:56] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Quote #2515 added. [16:56:58] jtgorman | i just wish we had one ... [16:56:59] ---| ---> ntra [9c383a78@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.120] has joined #code4lib [16:56:59] ---| <<-- maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:56:59] ---| <<-- pjb2 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:57:19] ---| <<-- danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:57:20] ---| User: *** danwho_ is now known as danwho [16:57:31] JodiS | awesome to have summaries here. ranti++ [16:57:31] BigD | hack AND die [16:57:32] pberry | Tension! [16:57:33] sesuncedu | webcams in dorms [16:57:37] atz | chelociraptor: dead rising style lego head [16:57:39] knickum | hack, then die [16:57:41] gsf | BigD: lol [16:57:50] duspal | atz++ [16:57:52] chelociraptor | atz++ [16:57:57] mjg_ | hack XOR die, really [16:58:03] duspal | dead_rising++ [16:58:03] mbklein | mjg_++ [16:58:14] ---| <<-- ssmith [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:58:19] eby | @quote random [16:58:19] zoia | eby: Quote #1842: " it's funny how the very technical and the very nontechnical meet around web forums; like how extremely progressive people and libertarians overlap" (added by royt at 03:08 PM, April 09, 2009) [16:58:21] scolford_also | mjg_: good point [16:58:25] ---| <<-- spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [16:58:28] knickum | mjg++ [16:58:32] WoodWork | @help [16:58:32] zoia | WoodWork: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [16:58:39] ---| <<-- dfunk [~dfunk@d-128-193-235.bootp.Virginia.EDU] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:58:40] JodiS | tried to catalog the order: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_Lightning_Talks_Signup still not sure if Adam of R&R hall of fame was really between Esme (UCSD mobile) and Tom (Hathi) [16:58:41] BigD | haxx0r [16:58:48] scolford_also | @decide suDOO or suDOH [16:58:49] zoia | scolford_also: go with suDOH [16:58:51] dchud | tzhaya++ [16:58:52] ---| <<-- danwho [~danwho@156-56-58-148.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:58:57] mbklein | True story: Former employer decided to use plone and zope because it rhymed with "smokin' dope" [16:59:09] jtgorman | JodiS++ [16:59:09] * robcaSSon got fired [16:59:16] eby | @blame robcaSSon [16:59:16] zoia | eby: robcaSSon ate a communiss. [16:59:17] escowles | suDOH++ [16:59:17] mbklein | robcaSSon++ [16:59:23] anarchivist | robcaSSon++ [16:59:23] ---| User: *** scolford_also is now known as scolford [16:59:25] pberry | Left every day at 4:20 [16:59:27] anarchivist | @ana ride the weedbus [16:59:28] zoia | anarchivist: The wise, rude bed [16:59:33] anna3lc | former_employer++ [16:59:38] ---| <<-- epalm [~epalm@TOROON12-1178068039.sdsl.bell.ca] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:59:39] mbklein | robcaSSon: Would have been fine until you started going on about data NORMLization [16:59:39] mjg_ | kuali weedbus [16:59:41] highermath | How much can you get for usability research from administrators? [16:59:49] robcaSSon | mbklein++ # groan [16:59:53] sesuncedu | bloody difficult proxy [16:59:54] scolford | @quote add True story: Former employer decided to use plone and zope because it rhymed with "smokin' dope" [16:59:54] zoia | scolford: The operation succeeded. Quote #2516 added. [16:59:56] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:59:56] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:00:04] chelociraptor | mjg_++ [17:00:10] BillDueber | proxy-proxy++ [17:00:24] ---| <<-- jbowen [8097bd5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.151.189.90] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:00:27] BigD | we use drupal because it sounds like, um... i got nuthin [17:00:33] robcaSSon | BigD: RuPaul [17:00:33] pberry | Actionable > objectionable [17:00:35] robcaSSon | duh [17:00:38] mbklein | SLEE-Z-Proxy: Remote proxy auth for adult web sites [17:00:39] sesuncedu | Actionable means can be sued [17:00:44] ---| <<-- jlhardes [8cb69428@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.40] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:00:45] ---| <--- gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has left #code4lib () [17:00:46] anarchivist | Eazy Prox-E [17:00:47] duspal | BigD: ruples? [17:00:47] scolford | BigD: I got one, but it's not very nice. [17:01:00] mbklein | BigD: Scruples? [17:01:01] highermath | robcaSSon: that has been brought up before [17:01:02] mjg_ | scruple? [17:01:12] mbklein | mjg_: BURN [17:01:13] eby | @who hates marc [17:01:14] sciversedev | anyone familiar with or interested in opensocial, open apis rest apis? there is a challenge using these web2.0 technologies for elsevier's sciverse platform. [17:01:14] zoia | skome hates marc. [17:01:35] robcaSSon | @who hates Mark [17:01:35] zoia | mhagedon hates Mark. [17:01:36] skome | Zoia stop putting words in my mouth [17:01:37] zoia | skome: sounds like you lack privileges, buddy. too bad I'm on my lunch break. [17:01:38] ---| <--- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [17:01:39] * mbklein is waiting for the data center sleepover party [17:01:48] eby | @who loves weed [17:01:49] zoia | robcaSSon loves weed. [17:01:52] eby | damn right [17:01:54] * mjg_ snorts [17:01:56] lbjay | i'm so there [17:01:57] * zoia sobs [17:02:00] * robcaSSon snorts [17:02:02] akorphan | Does this reception have food? [17:02:04] robcaSSon | goddammit [17:02:08] mjg_ | is the data center tour tonight or tomorrow? [17:02:09] eby | food and booze i think [17:02:12] lbjay | and art [17:02:12] younga | skome: are you in IN? [17:02:13] dbs | sciversedev: i haz some familiarity and interest in the opensocial side of things, not so much in the sciverse bit though [17:02:18] jtgorman | akorphan: I hope so, cause I know it has good beer [17:02:19] anna3lc | not streaming the reception [17:02:19] mbklein | @who is robcaSSon's supplier? [17:02:19] zoia | maruyama3 is robcaSSon's supplier. [17:02:20] eefcee | live_stream++ [17:02:21] JodiS | yeah streaming! :) [17:02:21] pberry | Later streamers [17:02:21] tokeee | mjg: Tomorrow [17:02:26] ---| <<-- highermath [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Quit: highermath) [17:02:28] mjg_ | tokeee: thx [17:02:29] dbs | live_stream++ [17:02:30] lbjay | day_one++ [17:02:30] JodiS | anna3lc: that would just be cruel [17:02:31] zoia | JodiS: turn it up! [17:02:35] sesuncedu | mbklein: the technion had a sofabed in the machine room. With lots of blankets cos it was bloody cold. [17:02:36] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Quit: cazzerson) [17:02:39] pberry | Nap time! [17:02:40] mjg_ | a day of babyheads and toys [17:02:42] ---| <<-- rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:02:43] akorphan | jtgorman: beer, you say. 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[17:03:09] ---| <<-- julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:03:09] sesuncedu | jodis: BTW, will you be at ISKO UK this year [17:03:12] ---| <<-- jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jrochkind) [17:03:16] mbklein | @band add Babyhead [17:03:17] zoia | mbklein: Band 'Babyhead' added to list [17:03:19] mjg_ | h-suite is open for folks who want to hang before the reception [17:03:22] eby | @slowclap [17:03:23] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:03:24] akorphan | BABYHEAD [17:03:25] ---| <<-- escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [17:03:25] zoia | *clap* [17:03:26] zoia | *clap* [17:03:27] zoia | *clap* [17:03:28] zoia | *clap* [17:03:29] ---| <<-- sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: sibylschaefer) [17:03:39] akorphan | All clapping is slow when the network is this laggy. 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[17:09:33] sesuncedu | Achtung! Zoialust! [17:09:34] wtd | Ah, session's over. [17:09:41] ---| <<-- milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:09:45] mjg_ | this year's suite is considerably less hostile than last year's [17:09:50] mjg_ | so far. [17:09:55] mjg_ | &ellipsis; [17:10:01] ---| <<-- sjmielh [~Adium@78-20-193-98.access.telenet.be] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:10:04] wtd | Was it hostile last year? 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[17:13:28] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #code4lib [17:13:38] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:13:43] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:13:45] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:14:10] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:14:12] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:14:15] ---| ---> maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:14:40] dbs | wtd: thought for code4libnorth: try and arrange a date in Toronto where we can go out and support nunanishi's roller derby team for an evening event [17:14:47] mjg_ | MOAR BABYHEAD [17:15:05] ---| ---> helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:15:13] dbs | wtd: also, why the heck didn't I see you at OLA? (I came down with the flu again, so probably for the best...) [17:16:01] * dbs bails for a few hours [17:16:10] wtd | dbs: Dude! [17:16:21] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-ngfviidyslolvkeo] has joined #code4lib [17:16:21] dbs | head whips around [17:16:24] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:16:26] wtd | dbs: I didn't go. But too bad we didn't get together for a pint. [17:16:27] ---| ---> fowbar [8e679df3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.103.157.243] has joined #code4lib [17:16:30] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:16:31] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [17:16:39] dbs | wtd: good choice :) [17:16:47] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:16:54] ---| <<-- helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [17:17:05] wtd | dbs: On both counts, it sounds? [17:17:09] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:17:25] ---| <<-- rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:17:47] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:17:56] dbs | I would have liked to have seen you - but given the illness that crept up, yeah. And I wouldn't have gone had it not been for my own presentation and award thingy [17:18:01] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:18:08] ---| <<-- druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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Daft largesse [17:21:01] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [17:21:36] sesuncedu | Subject Headings that annoy me: Felton, Cora (Fictitious character)--Fiction . http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh2009124195 [17:21:40] ---| <--- eefcee [~eefcee@jkolb12.dsl.visi.com] has left #code4lib () [17:22:05] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:22:17] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:22:36] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: fumi) [17:23:04] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [17:23:12] ---| <<-- yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has quit (Client Quit) [17:23:17] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [17:23:23] fowbar | What are the dinner plans before the beertopia tonight? [17:23:35] ---| ---> ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:23:50] anarchivist | fowbar: the word is that there are heavy hors d'oeuvres at the reception [17:24:26] ---| <<-- sciversedev [grkljn@69.41.165.101] has quit (Quit: Chatmosphere - IRC for Blackberry) [17:24:32] sesuncedu | anarchivist: The preferred term is "fat ho's" [17:24:33] ---| ---> cbeer [~chris@conference/code4lib/x-dlczibdbrdrvypnr] has joined #code4lib [17:25:00] fowbar | heavy horse hoofs [17:25:12] archivist | horses doofers [17:25:14] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [17:25:25] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:25:42] ---| ---> jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:25:42] zoia | find / -name 'jrochkind' -exec chmod 0000 '{}' \; [17:25:53] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:26:40] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: flyingzumwalt) [17:26:51] decasm_ | jrochkind: reception then finches? anyone else? [17:27:18] jrochkind | decasm_: there might be enough food at reception that i'm not interested in dinner after. so i don't want to commit. or go tomorrow instead? [17:27:22] mjg_ | want to make sure to be back at the hotel by 8:30 for the drink-up, so depends on the timing [17:27:32] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:27:39] jrochkind | "heavy hor derves" is the official description. however you spell hor derves. [17:27:43] anarchivist | decasm_: in the same boat as mjg_ [17:27:47] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:28:05] decasm_ | how 'about finches tomorrow? [17:28:18] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:28:28] decasm_ | is there anything else planned for tomorrow evening? [17:28:34] ---| <<-- dericed [~Adium@157.150.192.225] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:28:40] mjg_ | nothing planned for tomorrow, I don't think [17:28:49] pberry | Anyone going out after 8 tonight? [17:29:06] anarchivist | pberry: we're having another craft brew drinkup in the hospitality suite [17:29:14] pberry | Cool [17:29:21] anarchivist | pberry: feel free to join, of course :) [17:29:24] ---| ---> Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:29:30] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:29:37] pberry | Still amazed we weren't shut down last night [17:29:47] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:29:52] mjg_ | we'll try again tonight [17:30:00] mjg_ | NO SLEEP 'TIL B'TON [17:30:03] anarchivist | pberry: helrond and i are on one side of the suite, and kayiwa is right across the hall [17:30:11] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:30:17] pberry | If at first you don't get kicked out, turn up the music [17:30:45] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@conference/code4lib/x-dlczibdbrdrvypnr] has quit (Quit: cbeer) [17:30:54] ---| <<-- Baroquem_ [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:31:02] pberry | Well, time to wander and take photos. 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[20:30:16] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [20:31:35] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [20:31:41] * wtd_ loads up the archived video. 410 minutes! [20:31:47] dlovins | [20:31:49] dlovins | [20:31:57] dlovins | [20:32:08] dlovins | [20:32:30] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [20:35:58] ---| ---> MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [20:37:14] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [20:37:14] ---| <<-- anarchivist1 [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:44:46] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [20:45:15] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [20:49:48] ---| ---> sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [20:50:31] ---| ---> Tokee [~tokee@156-56-58-42.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [20:52:29] kshepherd | snail: nice pic ;) i would have looked similar, except i would have been in a tent or outside a marquee instead of a house [20:53:26] sekjal | koha hackfestry in 401. beverages included [20:54:13] ---| ---> royt [~royt@adsl-67-121-144-66.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #code4lib [20:55:29] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [21:00:28] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [21:03:49] highermath_aw | wtd: good question [21:05:36] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:06:07] wtd_ | I can add in links and stuff, since I'm not there and hence have no outrageous beer-fuelled coding sessions to attend. [21:06:50] ---| <<-- skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [21:07:27] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [21:07:27] zoia | Shh! Daft largesse [21:07:57] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@216.216.225.10] has joined #code4lib [21:08:29] MrDys | or beer-fuelled slide making sessions [21:09:08] ---| ---> sesuncedu [~Adium@pool-108-28-169-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [21:09:21] ---| <<-- sesuncedu [~Adium@pool-108-28-169-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:10:37] wtd_ | Or slide-fuelled beer-tasting sessions. [21:11:49] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:15:56] ---| <<-- fontanka [~fontanka@remote-pardi.intranet.sub.su.se] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [21:16:35] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:17:34] atz | beer time yet? [21:17:38] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:19:01] atz | anyvhonee hooome? [21:19:16] sekjal | atz: there may be beer still in 116/7 [21:19:24] wtd_ | @karma beer [21:19:25] zoia | wtd_: Karma for "beer" has been increased 14 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 13. [21:19:35] atz | i brought my own, so should be good. see you in a sec. [21:19:52] sekjal | I got a growler at Lenny's for the koha hackfest, in addition to some soda [21:20:40] wtd_ | A growler? [21:22:08] royt | wtd_: Big bottle of beer [21:22:14] edsu | anyone running a modern browser want to try something for me? [21:22:15] kshepherd | heh [21:22:20] kshepherd | that's not what a growler means down here ;) [21:22:36] royt | wtd: 1/2 gallon [21:22:42] wtd_ | Cripes! [21:22:56] royt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_bottle#Growler [21:23:18] ---| ---> maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:23:23] royt | enough beer to get BigD started, but not much more [21:23:44] edsu | http://inkdroid.org/subjects-here [21:23:56] wtd_ | Huh, that's 1.89 liters ... explains why the soy milk I bought yesterday is 1.89 l. [21:24:26] wtd_ | Two quarts. Same volume, different label for metric countries. [21:24:36] royt | wtd_; why don't you Canadians get a real measurement system ;-) [21:24:57] royt | we like being the only ones in the world stupid enough to not be metric :-) [21:25:03] edsu | wtd: are you in canada right now? [21:25:04] wtd_ | Try walking a chain plus a rod in our shoes to see what it's like, royt. [21:25:18] royt | wtd++ # LOL [21:25:21] wtd_ | edsu: Yeah, I'm at home. [21:25:32] edsu | wtd: can you try loading http://inkdroid.org/subjects-here in your browser? [21:25:45] wtd_ | Checking ... [21:26:03] wtd_ | ! [21:26:13] edsu | did it work? [21:26:22] wtd_ | It did. Cool! [21:26:33] edsu | great thing is it's just that html page [21:26:39] wtd_ | Lots of Toronto-related aboutnesses. [21:26:55] edsu | royt: you in california? [21:27:08] wtd_ | Is that something librarywebchic talked about earlier? [21:27:18] wtd_ | That's cool. [21:27:32] edsu | wtd_: yeah, http://www.oclc.org/developer/sites/default/files/handouts/Experimental%20MapFAST%20Web%20Service.pdf [21:27:44] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) [21:27:45] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:28:21] edsu | oclc++ # they send back Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * ; so your javascript can load their web service cross domain [21:28:26] wtd_ | I'm just starting to watch her talk now, was just waiting for the intro stuff to roll by. [21:28:51] edsu | wtd: cool [21:29:15] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:29:21] * edsu wonders what the person from NZ got :-) [21:29:31] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [21:29:33] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Client Quit) [21:29:47] MrDys | edsu: works for me [21:30:06] MrDys | edsu++ #for using modernizr [21:30:26] ---| <--- rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [21:30:31] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@99-13-234-23.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has quit (Quit: dbh_) [21:30:48] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:30:52] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [21:31:04] royt | OH SWEET [21:31:06] royt | edsu++ [21:31:15] royt | really nailed it [21:32:02] royt | I didn't realize that Firefox would send your location [21:32:09] royt | with permission [21:33:09] MrDys | royt: yep, that was a 3.0 feature [21:33:12] royt | uh, duh, http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/geolocation/ [21:33:16] wtd_ | Though, thinking of using that on a smartphone, somehow the dynamic, instant nature of location-aware mobile services kind of clash against the stodgy, glacial pace of LCSH development. [21:33:46] royt | wtd_: heh, well put [21:34:11] wtd_ | Look, I'm in a washroom and it's saying "Aboutness: Water closets." [21:34:40] MrDys | sweet. my talk times out to be 20 minutes. [21:35:31] royt | wdt_: It should be saying: "Aboutness: Wash Your Hands" [21:38:19] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [21:38:25] ---| <<-- zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:40:53] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@conference/code4lib/x-vytwnilidyykeiao] has joined #code4lib [21:41:27] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: asnagy) [21:43:01] wtd_ | Hmm ... I just sent email saying how good the archived video is, and then the stream froze on me. [21:45:14] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Quit: Goodbye World) [21:46:40] jbrinley | wtd_-- # you broke it! [21:48:35] ---| ---> jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:49:02] edsu | wtd, royt, MrDys: added links to worldcat now [21:49:16] royt | sweet! [21:49:20] royt | edsu++ [21:49:33] MrDys | edsu: stopped working for me [21:49:41] edsu | MrDys: oh really? [21:49:49] wtd_ | Styling! [21:49:49] edsu | MrDys: reload maybe? [21:50:09] edsu | MrDys: is the page entirely blank? [21:50:12] MrDys | edsu: got nothing but 'Subjects Here' [21:50:29] edsu | weird [21:50:51] edsu | MrDys: what browser? [21:50:57] stuartlewis | It works well down here in NZ - lists all the suburbs that are close by. [21:50:58] MrDys | edsu: ffx [21:51:09] edsu | stuartlewis: neato [21:51:43] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [21:52:37] royt | working for me [21:52:47] edsu | kinda neat to see it work on iphone [21:53:09] MrDys | edsu: it's working for me in safari and chrome [21:53:19] MrDys | ffx is probably being weird with caching [21:53:29] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [21:54:12] edsu | MrDys: you sure ffx isn't prompting you to share your location w/ inkdroid.org? [21:54:32] MrDys | edsu: I set it to remember 'yes' [21:54:55] edsu | what version of ffx? [21:55:03] MrDys | I'm sure if I close ffx and open it again, it'll work [21:55:06] edsu | ok [21:55:11] MrDys | 3.6.something [21:55:15] dbs | royt: man, you forgot that one slide in my Access 2010 presentation where I had the code for browser geolocation? [21:55:19] edsu | yeah, that's what i have too [21:55:26] edsu | weird [21:55:34] dbs | royt: that was only, like, 6 months ago - for shame! [21:56:16] dbs | edsu: ffx has some weird race conditions, it has afflicted the evergreen opac from time to time - ye olde "white screen of death" [21:56:16] zoia | here we go again ... [21:57:53] MrDys | edsu: reloaded ffx and it's working again [21:58:24] ---| ---> fumi_ [~fumi@216.216.225.10] has joined #code4lib [21:59:36] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@216.216.225.10] has quit (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [21:59:37] ---| User: *** fumi_ is now known as fumi [21:59:51] edsu | MrDys: cool [22:02:52] MrDys | even cooler: I feel sufficiently prepared for my talk tomorrow. time for beer. 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[22:30:46] lbjay | @later tell spaldo [sing harry chapin : cats in the cradle : 0] [22:30:48] zoia | The operation succeeded. 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[23:17:47] anarchivist | @ana craft brew drinkup [23:17:47] zoia | anarchivist: Twerp if drunk crab [23:22:17] ---| Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: gugek_away, gmcharlt, zoia, berick, harvel_, ruebot, jjtuttle, rsinger, highermath_away, matts, (+29 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) [23:22:31] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:22:31] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [23:22:31] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [23:23:14] lbjay | craft_brew_drinkup++ [23:23:22] lbjay | @quote random [23:23:41] lbjay | oh, zoia got netsplit [23:25:58] ---| Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ranti [23:25:58] ---| Netsplit over, joins: skome, ranti, jaf, atz, gsf, royt, Tokee, sekjal, anarchivist, dlovins (+28 more) [23:26:01] ---| <<-- ruebot [~ruebot@xenu.lib.McMaster.CA] has quit (Excess Flood) [23:26:11] lbjay | @quote random [23:26:12] zoia | lbjay: Quote #2425: "< edsu> royt: i have a business card that says my name is Chris Loser, and that I work as a manager at Starbucks in Crystal Lake, IL." (added by anarchivist at 11:51 AM, October 08, 2010) [23:26:21] ---| ---> ruebot [~ruebot@xenu.lib.McMaster.CA] has joined #code4lib [23:29:12] lbjay | @who keeps farting in the hospitality suite? [23:29:13] zoia | morgan8 keeps farting in the hospitality suite. [23:29:22] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Quit: Goodbye World) [23:29:39] ---| Netsplit over, joins: ranti [23:29:53] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:30:21] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cazzerson) [23:31:20] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:33:22] wtd_ | According to http://www.manta.com/c/mmfm6px/starbucks, Chris Loser co-manages with James Brown. Cool. 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[23:55:51] ---| ---> tildeequals [~equals@c-24-130-112-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib --- Day changed Wed Feb 09 2011 [00:01:52] ---| <<-- sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: sekjal) [00:04:43] edsu | wtd_: :-) [00:04:55] edsu | wtd_: wow, he's still there [00:05:18] edsu | wish i got the james brown card instead :-) [00:05:56] edsu | wtd_: i put that html5 mapFAST code up on github: https://github.com/edsu/subjects-here [00:06:19] edsu | wtd_: there isn't any server side piece, so it seems a bit excessive [00:06:42] wtd_ | edsu: Cool beans. That's a nice hack. [00:07:08] edsu | do you have smart phone? [00:07:15] wtd_ | I didn't know about the geolocated subject headings. It makes perfect sense, of course. [00:07:24] wtd_ | Yeah, I do. Hang on, I'll try in it. [00:07:39] edsu | compare the view in your smartphone to the webpage [00:07:52] edsu | i guess it'll depend on what smartphone you have [00:08:36] edsu | s/webpage/workstation/ [00:08:37] wtd_ | Same results in my phone. [00:08:58] edsu | do you see the text around the list on your phone? [00:10:31] wtd_ | No, just the list. [00:10:42] edsu | oh good [00:10:43] wtd_ | But now in Firefox I only see your explanation, and no subject headings. [00:10:58] edsu | yeah, i imagine that's some ffx cache problem that MrDys saw [00:11:04] edsu | if you restart ffx does it look ok? [00:12:44] edsu | sorry to harrass you into restarting your browser :-} [00:12:49] edsu | i should get some rest i guess [00:13:33] wtd_ | Hmm ... no. [00:13:40] wtd_ | Still no list. [00:14:17] wtd_ | Ah, but it refreshes in Chrome. [00:14:22] wtd_ | Yeah, must be some bug. [00:14:36] wtd_ | edsu++ # Nice hack [00:14:50] ---| <<-- jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:18:30] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:19:13] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [00:19:46] * jeff rips the session1 video archive [00:19:54] * edsu tries in ffx [00:21:00] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:22:14] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Quit: highermath_away) [00:22:44] jeff | yay. rip working. [00:23:45] edsu | wtd_: ahh, working now? i had a stray console.log() in there [00:24:39] wtd_ | edsu: That did it! [00:24:57] edsu | yay [00:25:20] wtd_ | You pulled the Javscript out of the page? [00:25:26] wtd_ | Code bloat! Two pages now! 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[00:33:35] edsu | i guess i'm living vicariously through irc/livestream ; which is definitely better than nothing [00:33:44] ranti | edsu: :-) [00:33:57] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:34:35] ranti | edsu: ooppss... my opera mobile v.9.7 So, looks like I need to upgrade it. [00:35:06] edsu | wtd_: yeah :-) [00:35:22] wtd_ | ranti: Is anyone collecting PDFs and slides and such for uploading to the site? [00:36:06] ranti | wtd_: I sure hope so. :-) [00:37:13] ranti | wtd_: I mean, I am not aware if anybody is collecting PDFs and slides. But, I think we use a single laptop where everybody is asked to upload their preso there. [00:40:26] wtd_ | Registering for the ALA is complete shit. What a pain. [00:45:23] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@62.242.28.61] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:45:46] edsu | i guess people haven't started rolling into the hospitality suite yet [00:49:50] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:49:51] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:52:09] wtd_ | @sing radiohead : let down [00:52:11] zoia | The emptiest of feelings disappointed people / clinging onto bottles and / When it comes its so so disappointing / Let down and hanging around [00:53:03] ---| <<-- gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:53:29] jeff | okay, "rip stream" take two. [00:54:15] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [00:54:15] zoia | Shh! Daft largesse [00:54:34] jeff | looks like it'll be about 900M [00:54:45] gsf | @herald get gsf [00:54:46] zoia | gsf: Shh! Daft largesse [00:55:04] gsf | @ana Shh! Daft largesse [00:55:05] zoia | gsf: Flash dasher gets [00:55:25] edsu | gsf: hostility suite? [00:55:30] gsf | @ana Shh! Daft largesse [00:55:31] zoia | gsf: Flash dasher gets [00:55:46] gsf | edsu: just retired to my little room [00:55:56] gsf | @ana Flash dasher gets [00:55:57] zoia | gsf: Shh! Daft largesse [00:55:58] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:56:10] gsf | @herald remove gsf [00:56:11] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. 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It gives me a pulse." (added by mjgiarlo at 09:50 AM, September 29, 2008) [03:19:07] anarchivist | may be i should go to sleep [03:22:14] ---| <<-- matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) [03:22:53] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [03:23:42] ---| ---> matts [~matts@home.veggie.fr] has joined #code4lib [03:23:42] ---| <<-- matts [~matts@home.veggie.fr] has quit (Changing host) [03:23:42] ---| ---> matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has joined #code4lib [03:25:30] anarchivist | @blame shlomo [03:25:30] zoia | anarchivist: If it wasn't for shlomo, anarchivist would have totally gotten it done on time. 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[08:03:38] MrDys | @quote random [08:03:39] zoia | MrDys: Quote #912: " Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." 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[08:16:07] ---| ---> escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:17:26] MrDys | (I don't know what 'rokm' means) [08:19:07] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@140.203.217.70] has joined #code4lib [08:19:08] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@140.203.217.70] has quit (Changing host) [08:19:08] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [08:19:43] ---| ---> ejk [~kloostere@odie.aadl.org] has joined #code4lib [08:20:05] ejk | @quote random [08:20:05] zoia | ejk: Quote #914: " Step away from the Bartlett's" (added by ksclarke at 08:14 PM, June 27, 2007) [08:22:14] ---| ---> BillDueber_ [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:22:14] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:22:21] ---| ---> sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:22:30] rsinger | @dunno add Give me a bottle of anything, and a glazed doughnut. To go! [08:22:30] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1122 added. [08:22:36] ---| ---> tomkeays [~chatzilla@cpe-67-249-120-52.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [08:24:26] ---| <<-- MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [08:25:39] ejk | DLR++ [08:28:28] ---| <<-- escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [08:28:55] ---| ---> jbowen [8097bd5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.151.189.90] has joined #code4lib [08:31:12] ---| ---> decasm_ [~decasm@156-56-58-30.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:31:52] ---| <<-- nabeta_ [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [08:32:12] ---| ---> akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has joined #code4lib [08:32:42] akorphan | I miss sausage biscuits. [08:32:52] akorphan | Oatmeal's nice though. 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[08:37:36] akorphan | I think I found some existentialism and some Utah in mine. [08:37:43] pberry | I've lost about 90% of my voice, so I'm not being antisocial...I just can't say anything [08:37:55] ---| ---> cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:38:01] lbjay | @ana one with everything bagel [08:38:01] zoia | lbjay: Highbrow, genteel naivety [08:38:03] pberry | Hooray for irc [08:38:04] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@pool-96-240-172-51.ronkva.east.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [08:38:26] akorphan | zoia++ [08:38:42] akorphan | What did the Zen buddhist say to the hot dog vendor? [08:38:57] MrDys | everything_bagels_with_sunflower_seeds++ [08:39:03] * lbjay groans in anticipation [08:39:10] akorphan | "Make me one with everything..." [08:39:17] lbjay | akorphan++ [08:39:25] akorphan | Oh! Oh! I've also got this great koan: [08:39:26] decasm_ | i'm disappointed by the total lack of protein [08:39:27] pberry | Rimshot [08:39:34] ---| ---> danhorst1 [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:39:40] ejk | @rimshot [08:39:41] zoia | ejk: type after me: /join #dspace [08:39:41] pberry | decasm_: Bacon would have been nice [08:39:50] pberry | bacon++ [08:39:50] akorphan | bacon++ [08:39:58] ---| ---> mounts_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:40:28] pberry | Whoa....funky coffee is funky [08:40:30] ---| <<-- ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:40:42] lbjay | pberry: not as funky as the stuff in the lobby shop [08:41:25] pberry | I think I'll stick to pikes place [08:41:33] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [08:41:37] akorphan | pberry: I like a good peaberry coffee [08:42:01] * lbjay wonders how did gsf just join when he's standing over by the fruit tray [08:42:17] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [08:42:40] pberry | akorphan: You're just full of jokes this morning ;) [08:42:54] ---| ---> jerms_ [8cb6f8c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.199] has joined #code4lib [08:43:11] akorphan | pberry: It's a new, beautiful morning! The perfect time for inanity. [08:43:14] pberry | Man, I'm gonna need more cold mess soon... [08:43:20] pberry | Meds [08:43:46] lbjay | bagels and lumpy oatmeal = cold mess [08:43:52] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:44:33] ---| ---> benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [08:45:32] pberry | @google hydra framework [08:45:33] zoia | pberry: HydraFramework: ; Notification - API Documentation: ; The Hydra Framework and its Parts - Hydra - DuraSpace Wiki: ; The Hydra Project - Hydra - DuraSpace Wiki: (2 more messages) [08:45:52] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:45:57] pberry | @more [08:45:57] zoia | pberry: ; Hydra – An Application Framework for the Development of Context ...: ; hydra-framework - Project Hosting on Google Code: ; Hydra Framework and Hydrangea Update: August 2010 | MediaShelf: rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:46:44] ---| ---> rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [08:47:12] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [08:47:18] ejk | live_stream++ [08:47:27] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:47:27] csharp | very clear audio! [08:47:43] MrDys | mmm...salty carbohydrates [08:47:58] csharp | note to presenters: we can hear your whispers in the broadcast [08:48:04] ---| ---> mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:48:06] akorphan | csharp: wow! [08:48:19] akorphan | I sense an awkward Joe Biden type moment will ensue [08:48:27] * csharp hopes for one [08:48:31] ejk | Through the magic of cybertechnology, I can watch the code4lib conference WHILE I run III notices! [08:48:31] ---| <<-- BillDueber_ [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:48:34] pberry | It will be a huge fucking deal I'm sure [08:48:52] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:49:16] MrDys | @ana huge fucking deal [08:49:17] zoia | MrDys: Fudge! Agile chunk [08:49:19] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:49:32] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@216.216.225.10] has quit (Quit: fumi) [08:49:34] pberry | Mmmmmm, fudge [08:49:38] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@149-166-9-137.dhcp-in.iupui.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:49:39] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [08:49:39] ejk | "Agile Chunk" is the best kind of fudge [08:49:44] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [08:49:46] pberry | @Ana fudge for breakfast [08:49:47] zoia | pberry: Freak bugs of farted [08:50:02] pberry | ~o_~o [08:50:34] akorphan | CAFFEIINNNNNEEEEE [08:50:35] pberry | I had such high hopes [08:50:51] pberry | White balance check time [08:51:14] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [08:51:20] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:51:21] decasm_ | tomorrow, breakfast at http://villagedeli.biz/ for those that want to join me [08:51:35] decasm_ | leaving from hotel lobby at 7:45 [08:51:38] pberry | Does that involve going outside? 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[08:53:22] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:35] * ecorrado hates flash only web sites too [08:53:38] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:39] ---| ---> cdwort [~worthingt@68-190-127-18.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [08:53:51] edsu | livestream++ # this conference goes to 11 [08:54:29] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [08:54:40] ejk | Do they keep stats on how many stream viewers we are? 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[08:57:26] edsu | ejk: not sure [08:57:40] edsu | ejk: it would definitely be interesting, probably worth pinging mcdonald about it [08:57:42] pberry | Well, if I knew it was going to be *that* kind of party... [08:58:41] eby | @Hussein I see dead people [08:58:41] lbjay | @herald remove BillDueber [08:58:42] zoia | eby: Pin heedless peau de soie [08:58:43] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [08:58:59] BillDueber | lbjay: Thanks [08:59:00] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:59:18] lbjay | BillDueber: you betcha [08:59:32] BillDueber | lbjay++ # for speaking in a language I can understand [08:59:42] ---| ---> rnanders_ [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:59:47] lbjay | BillDueber: i refudiate that statement [08:59:50] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:00:06] lbjay | @palin [09:00:07] zoia | lbjay: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:00:08] rsinger | lbjay++ [09:00:09] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [09:00:12] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:00:20] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:00:39] pberry | Karma overflow? [09:00:43] ---| ---> demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has joined #code4lib [09:00:48] ejk | @hussein I can see russia from my house [09:00:49] zoia | ejk: Rich if nauseous smeariness [09:00:52] ndushay | BillDueber: I can seeee you! 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[09:02:00] jtgorman | they always forget to look up [09:02:04] ---| ---> fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:10] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:11] ---| ---> KingNightWolf [8cb6fbc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.199] has joined #code4lib [09:02:17] pberry | BillDueber: But when I say duck, do it [09:02:17] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:17] ---| ---> helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:25] ---| ---> jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:35] erikhatcher | iu_streaming++ # i hear the milling about.... turn on the video! [09:02:59] anna3lc | @karma hospitality_suite [09:02:59] zoia | anna3lc: Karma for "hospitality_suite" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. [09:03:01] pberry | Let the housekeeping begin [09:03:02] ---| ---> raynerj [9c383b3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.58] has joined #code4lib [09:03:06] KingNightWolf | hey june [09:03:08] anna3lc | hospitality_suite-- [09:03:16] ndushay | think they'll dust and vacuum my place? [09:03:20] pberry | Which reminds me...was there a cleaning collection last night? [09:03:20] BillDueber | jtgorman++ [09:03:24] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:25] BillDueber | pberry: There was [09:03:27] anna3lc | pberry: yes [09:03:31] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:41] erikhatcher | how's that cleaning bribery thing working out? [09:03:42] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:42] BillDueber | pberry: And it looked pretty substantial, actually. [09:03:42] ---| ---> banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:54] ejk | Video is UP [09:03:54] pberry | Okay...I snuck out early, so if I can settle up with anybody... [09:03:57] BillDueber | erikhatcher: No one has been unexpectedly checked out yet, so so far so good. [09:04:01] ---| ---> mnotess [~chatzilla@140-182-148-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:10] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:23] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:26] anna3lc | the hotel store is out of advil, so if anyone has some on person and wants to share i would happily accept [09:04:30] ---| ---> mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:32] erikhatcher | this talk brought to you by Starbucks [09:04:39] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:40] lbjay | bad architecture, that place [09:04:44] bess | erikhatcher++ [09:04:46] pberry | Sponsors++ [09:04:47] bmljenny | Who is collecting for the cleaning crew? Missed that announcement [09:04:50] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:05:02] anarchivist | anna3lc: if you find some, i would be happy partake [09:05:05] ejk | @rate code4lihb code4lieb [09:05:06] ---| ---> sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has joined #code4lib [09:05:08] BillDueber | anna3lc: I've got some in my room, if it's worth me making the trip. [09:05:08] zoia | ejk: code4lihb: ?; code4lieb: ?. [09:05:14] ---| ---> tzhaya [9c383a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.121] has joined #code4lib [09:05:16] BillDueber | OK, sounds like I'm making a run to see what's in my room. [09:05:19] edsu | &clap; [09:05:22] * ejk claps [09:05:23] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:05:26] anna3lc | BillDueber: it is not as serious as that for me thank you though! :) [09:05:29] ndushay | i want to work at Stanford University of Paris. [09:05:30] * lbjay would be shocked to see sibyl before noon [09:05:37] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:05:37] eby | Line at Starbucks [09:05:42] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:05:42] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:05:43] jaf | booo [09:06:08] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:09] erikhatcher | elsevier++ [09:06:10] ---| ---> timmcgeary [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:16] edsu | &bleh; [09:06:17] ndushay | anna3lc: i have ibuprofen in my room. [09:06:27] timmcgeary | morning, everyone [09:06:34] ---| <--- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [09:06:35] pberry | eby: The students have awoken [09:06:47] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:50] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-229-247.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:54] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:57] druthb | g'morning! [09:07:05] atz | it sounds more challenging w/ an indian engineer announcing it.... [09:07:06] rsinger | @sing the coup : I love boosters! [09:07:06] ndushay | i'm pretending that I'm going to try to pay more attention to the talks today. [09:07:07] zoia | rsinger: No lyrics found for I love boosters! by the coup [09:07:11] ---| ---> yitznewton [~yitznewto@64.20.191.59] has joined #code4lib [09:07:28] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:29] anna3lc | ndushay: please don't go out of your way over it i will be fine [09:07:32] anna3lc | oatmeal++ [09:07:41] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:43] * yitznewton is live from New York... good morning IN [09:07:45] ---| <<-- banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:07:46] ---| ---> maccabee_ [~maccabee@156-56-58-32.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:52] ---| ---> jlhardes [8cb6e509@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.9] has joined #code4lib [09:07:55] ---| ---> zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:59] yitznewton | whoo! [09:08:03] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [09:08:04] zoia | bohyunkim thinks they're hot / but hot they're not [09:08:05] * ecorrado has ibuphreon in the front row [09:08:09] ---| User: *** maccabee_ is now known as maccabee [09:08:10] ndushay | setting phone to stealth mode [09:08:19] ndushay | mbklein: have you contributed the t-shirts? [09:08:26] ndushay | richard and I are both modelling. [09:08:38] ---| ---> banu1 [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:52] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@lib-staff901.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:08:52] edsu | dlf, who cares [09:08:56] decasm_ | like ... a business card? [09:08:59] mbklein | ndushay: No, I haven't. They're upstairs. Maybe after lunch. [09:09:02] jtgorman | decasm: that was my thought... [09:09:04] atz | a physical card? i haven't had one in years [09:09:07] freqlurker | who has those these days? [09:09:15] jtgorman | I hope they'll take an sd card with my name on it ;) [09:09:16] ejk | The THREE of CLUBS [09:09:19] anna3lc | ecorrado: yay may i take some off your hands? [09:09:20] pjb1 | hopefully i'm the only one with a card [09:09:20] atz | (i have a card from the speaker) [09:09:22] rsinger | i can't get over the quality of the livestream [09:09:23] lbjay | i guess the camera's mine by default! [09:09:37] anarchivist | @sing motörhead : ace of spades [09:09:40] anarchivist | @sing motörhead : ace of spades [09:09:41] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for ace of spades by motörhead [09:09:41] erikhatcher | bummed to miss the data center tours... sigh. ahhh, blinking lights! [09:09:42] * Tokee brought 50 cards [09:09:45] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:09:46] ecorrado | anna3lc: sure, come on up to the timer stand [09:09:48] ejk | yo_bj++ [09:09:49] ---| User: *** Tokee is now known as tokeee [09:09:49] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [09:09:50] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:09:51] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [09:09:54] anarchivist | @sing motorhead : ace of spades [09:09:55] zoia | You win some, lose some, all the same to me, / The pleasure is to play, makes no difference what you say, / I don't share your greed, the only card I need is / The Ace Of Spades [09:09:57] anna3lc | woot [09:10:03] * ryscher wishes I had brought that box of 500 business cards from the back of my desk drawer [09:10:09] mbklein | yo_bj++ [09:10:12] ranti | zoia++ [09:10:13] jtgorman | ryscher++ [09:10:14] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:14] atz | anarchivist++ [09:10:17] jaron | ryscher++ [09:10:19] maccabee | yo_bj++ [09:10:19] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:26] ejk | matching_shirts++ [09:10:29] ndushay | "fearless leader will give me a medal!" [09:10:31] rsinger | blue shirts/khaki pants [09:10:34] pmurray | HTML_slides++ [09:10:36] ---| ---> eefcee [~eefcee@jkolb12.dsl.visi.com] has joined #code4lib [09:10:37] jaf | ann3lc subtly raise your hand, bill has your advil [09:10:42] * mbklein is just helping everyone get in the mood to karma-bump the emcee. [09:10:45] anna3lc | ecorrado++ [09:10:45] pberry | s3 slides [09:10:54] ---| ---> bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [09:10:54] ---| ---> cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:58] jtgorman | yo_bj++ [09:11:00] anna3lc | jaf: i am set! [09:11:00] jstirnaman | Code4Lib-N++ [09:11:11] yitznewton | animated_gif-- [09:11:13] timmcgeary | yo_bj++ [09:11:16] eefcee | live_stream++ [09:11:19] ---| <--- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [09:11:23] jtgorman | ah, classy wooden table [09:11:25] atz |
TAG! [09:11:25] yitznewton | -- [09:11:34] ---| ---> ASmith [8cb6e4e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.228.227] has joined #code4lib [09:11:35] ryscher |
++ [09:11:39] pmurray | blueball.gif-- [09:11:41] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@mobile-166-137-141-102.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [09:11:42] pberry | Wowowow [09:11:47] ---| ---> webczarina [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has joined #code4lib [09:11:47] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:47] scolford | upper_case_tags-- [09:11:48] rsinger |
++ # for tabular data, c'mon people, don't hate the tag [09:11:52] yo_bj | :c) [09:11:53] tokeee |

... Really? [09:11:54] ejk | Oh man, blueball.gif! [09:12:05] ndushay | he SAID it was ugly [09:12:06] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:12:06] gsf | this looks good [09:12:07] lbjay | he hasn't looked at many astronomy sites [09:12:08] scolford | ++ [09:12:13] ecorrado | bink_tag++ [09:12:13] erikhatcher | ++ [09:12:16] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:12:18] yo_bj | I just noticed that I'm wearing the same thing as the presenters... hmmm [09:12:19] pberry | I was just going to say geocities++ [09:12:19] anna3lc | this site is awesome [09:12:20] timmcgeary | Will websites ever become retro-cool? [09:12:21] ejk | http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm [09:12:23] paulalbert | If it ain't broken, don't fix it.... [09:12:23] gsf | ++ [09:12:25] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [09:12:26] cazzerson | it could use some flames [09:12:29] helrond | @ana blink tags [09:12:30] zoia | helrond: Blast king [09:12:32] rsinger | plus, i mean -- it hurts to think he was still in high school when this was in vogue [09:12:42] * rsinger hugs his crows feet. [09:12:48] bmljenny | Yes! Needs a burning torch gif. [09:13:01] ---| ---> mattriehle [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:13:02] rsinger | digging man [09:13:02] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:13:03] atz | http://bestanimations.com/nature/fire/Flames/Flame-01-june.gif [09:13:10] scolford | atz++ [09:13:12] jtgorman | how about the spinning skull [09:13:21] druthb | dancing baby! [09:13:23] BillDueber | Animated "under construction" sign that never goes away [09:13:25] atz | old skuull [09:13:28] pberry | Or an under construction sign [09:13:31] lbjay | webring links [09:13:31] bmljenny | And an embedded midi playing the star spangled banner [09:13:33] * ecorrado misses dchud at the timer stand [09:13:34] scolford | hampster dance!!! [09:13:38] atz | bmljenny++ [09:13:40] yitznewton | @seen dchud [09:13:40] zoia | yitznewton: dchud was last seen in #code4lib 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: tzhaya++ [09:13:42] scolford | s/hampster/hamster [09:13:49] rsinger | webring++ [09:13:50] rsinger | haha [09:13:51] * BillDueber had totally forgotten about webrings [09:13:54] timmcgeary | dancing baby! [09:13:54] rsinger | me too [09:13:55] ---| ---> gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [09:13:56] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:00] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:06] ndushay | are webrings like benzene rings? [09:14:09] bmljenny | scolford: I think it was actually hampster [09:14:16] ---| ---> fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:20] BillDueber | ndushay: More like ring-around-the-collar [09:14:39] rsinger | ring-around-the-blink-tag [09:14:43] mbklein | And it needed to be called "My coin collection's little corner of the web" [09:14:45] ndushay | everyone should take a trip to california [09:14:49] scolford | bmljenny: yes, I thought so too. but didn't want to look like a bad speler [09:14:59] edsu | ndushay: is that where they had the chip implanted? [09:14:59] rsinger | inquisition.chop [09:14:59] pberry | ndushay: Fact [09:15:09] mtomko | i wasn't expecting that. [09:15:18] ndushay | edsu: you're not supposed to know about that [09:15:22] duspal | Nobody suspects the inquisition! [09:15:29] pberry | The inquisition, what a show [09:15:39] edsu | ndushay: uhoh :-) [09:15:47] bmljenny | I'm hungry now [09:15:48] pberry | bacon++ [09:15:49] mbklein | bacon++ [09:15:49] pmurray | bacon++ [09:15:54] mbklein | subliminal_bacon [09:15:55] lbjay | i missed the funny [09:15:57] ---| ---> jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:59] mbklein | subliminal_bacon++ [09:16:05] akorphan | Subliminal bacon? [09:16:06] timmcgeary | lbjay: me too. [09:16:08] akorphan | What happened? [09:16:12] druthb | spanish_inquisition++ [09:16:13] timmcgeary | irc-distraction-- [09:16:14] decasm_ | FYI tomorrow, breakfast at http://villagedeli.biz/ for those that want to join me, 7:45 in hotel lobby [09:16:20] pmurray | good_speaker_tricks++ [09:16:23] BillDueber | akorphan: Word "bacon" was on the screen for about 1/10 of a second [09:16:27] ecorrado | subliminal_bacon++ [09:16:33] jtgorman | webring++ [09:16:33] jtgorman | nobody expects the inquisitio! [09:16:35] ejk | live stream missed it, I think [09:16:38] akorphan | BillDueber: Nice. [09:16:40] pberry | @ana subliminal bacon [09:16:40] zoia | pberry: Im connubial labs [09:16:40] anna3lc | arrow'd! [09:16:42] ecorrado | @rate subliminal_bacon [09:16:44] zoia | ecorrado: subliminal bacon: 10.0. subliminal bacon rocks! [09:16:45] lbjay | @urbandict webring [09:16:46] zoia | lbjay: Error: No definition found. [09:16:47] ---| ---> dmc186_ [~dmc186@156-56-59-51.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:16:48] rsinger | lbjay: if you'd stop loving your life in IRC, YOU'D HAVE SEEN THAT [09:16:50] akorphan | wave o' babies! [09:16:52] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:16:53] rsinger | er [09:16:55] rsinger | living [09:16:59] jstirnaman | decasm: i'm thee [09:16:59] yitznewton | hey, where'd the stream go.. [09:17:02] BillDueber | anna3lc++ strongbad++ [09:17:03] lbjay | @love life [09:17:03] jstirnaman | *there* [09:17:03] ranti | @tweet "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!" [09:17:04] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:17:04] mbklein | One on't crossbeams gone out 'skew on the treadle. [09:17:05] zoia | ranti: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:17:06] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. lbjay loves life. [09:17:06] rsinger | i mean, i'm sure you're fond of it, too [09:17:16] ejk | MOAR ARROWZ [09:17:18] decasm_ | jstirnaman: check [09:17:21] bess | so nice to see someone actually using hydra. :) [09:17:29] ---| ---> petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:17:31] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:17:38] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:17:43] timmcgeary | bess: how many sites are using hydra? [09:17:45] rsinger | huh [09:17:46] mbklein | anna3lc / BillDueber: I want The Cheat on my usability team. [09:18:03] erikhatcher | opinionated_metadata++ [09:18:07] ---| <<-- gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has quit (Quit: leaving) [09:18:20] ---| Acknowledged: You're now known as metadata [09:18:23] jrochkind | "logo driven technology roadmap" [09:18:24] harvel | logo_driven_technology_roadmap++ [09:18:26] decasm_ | more entities! more arrows! [09:18:27] bmljenny | Opinionated librarians++ [09:18:27] metadata | you guys are all jerks [09:18:28] MrDys | @ana logo driven technology roadmap [09:18:30] zoia | MrDys: Rompingly good-hearted volcano [09:18:31] bess | timmcgeary: I don't know exactly. There are tons in development, but few in production. So it's just nice to see something in production. [09:18:31] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [09:18:34] metadata | this conference sucks [09:18:39] ndushay | who did the hydra logo? it rocks [09:18:41] timmcgeary | zoia++ [09:18:46] scolford | metadata++ [09:18:46] eefcee | zoia++ [09:18:48] bess | ndushay: chris j at Stanford did that [09:18:52] anarchivist | metadata++ [09:18:53] ndushay | these guys totally rehearsed their talk - they are smooth. [09:18:53] metadata | metadata: too cold in bloomington. damn! [09:18:55] erikhatcher | @blame metadata [09:18:56] zoia | erikhatcher: it's all metadata's fault [09:18:57] mbklein | @blame metadata [09:18:58] zoia | mbklein: metadata is just anti-web-2.0 [09:19:03] akorphan | Zoia's anagram engine is good at putting things in a phrase-y order [09:19:03] ecorrado | logo_driven_roadmap++ [09:19:05] timmcgeary | reheared-talkes++ [09:19:14] ndushay | hmm - vanilla blqcklight [09:19:18] ---| Acknowledged: You're now known as lbjay [09:19:19] jrochkind | still using the old blacklight default views, without the new bubbles [09:19:21] ndushay | s/q/a/ [09:19:27] freqlurker | this pres makes me wonder why we use contentdm at all [09:19:29] dbs | code4libcon always makes me feel dumber and dumber [09:19:31] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [09:19:35] ---| ---> escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:19:36] bess | jrochkind: yeah, hydrangea was using an old fork of blacklight [09:19:43] bess | jrochkind: but it's been upgraded to 2.7 since then [09:19:44] dbs | you peoples are so SMART [09:19:49] akorphan | We need to start a group called Code4Ba, so we can refer to the Code4BaCon [09:19:50] ecorrado | dchud arrives! [09:19:52] pjb1 | freqlurker++ [09:19:55] MrDys | get back to where you came from [09:19:59] bmljenny | I just noticed we are watching a video. [09:20:00] decasm_ | akorphan++ [09:20:04] atz | "got to get back..." [09:20:05] BillDueber | @google 20 shillings in dollars [09:20:06] zoia | BillDueber: Answers.com - How many shillings equal one dollar: ; Answers.com - How much is 15 shillings to dollar: ; Kenyan shilling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Shilling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages) [09:20:10] chelociraptor | akorphan++ [09:20:11] rsinger | but is it web scale? [09:20:11] yitznewton | @karma contentdm [09:20:12] zoia | yitznewton: Karma for "contentdm" has been increased 1 time and decreased 9 times for a total karma of -8. [09:20:13] erikhatcher | solrizer++ [09:20:21] akorphan | 20 shillings is a pound [09:20:25] jrochkind | what's that digital humanities whatever software for 'exhibits'? [09:20:27] ---| ---> dericed1 [~Adium@pool-71-125-31-89.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [09:20:28] yitznewton | @karma hydra [09:20:28] akorphan | back when shillings existed [09:20:28] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:20:28] zoia | yitznewton: Karma for "hydra" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. [09:20:29] lbjay | eggzibbit [09:20:31] ---| ---> dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:20:31] timmcgeary | dbs: don't doubt - everyone has their own expertise here, but I tend towards feeling the same at times. [09:20:34] ecorrado | recorded_demos++ [09:20:34] ---| <<-- banu1 [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:20:35] MrDys | jrochkind: omeka [09:20:42] akorphan | i think? or is it 12 shillings? [09:20:43] akorphan | drat [09:20:43] jrochkind | righto [09:20:45] mbklein | screencast++ [09:20:52] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:20:56] timmcgeary | @ana discovery interface [09:20:57] zoia | timmcgeary: If censored veracity [09:21:02] BillDueber | Synced with video makes for a great presentations [09:21:02] freqlurker | omeka++ [09:21:03] ---| ---> kirkhess [8cb69526@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.38] has joined #code4lib [09:21:05] jrochkind | oh, I see what they're doing. [09:21:07] ---| ---> banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:21:10] jrochkind | Yeah, they're doing good stuff. [09:21:10] BillDueber | Plus, they clearly both work at Best Buy [09:21:17] rsinger | @decide dahta or dayta [09:21:17] zoia | rsinger: go with dahta [09:21:18] akorphan | stupid non-decimal currencies [09:21:20] ndushay | jrochkind: what are they doing? [09:21:23] knickum | ouch BillDueber++ [09:21:25] rsinger | zoia: really? [09:21:26] zoia | rsinger: Don't worry, catalogers are on top of it. [09:21:30] atz | selective facets [09:21:31] jrochkind | ndushay: aren't you at the same presentation as me? :) [09:21:37] yitznewton | @decide dahta or dayta or daeta [09:21:37] ndushay | lol - yeah - just checking. [09:21:37] zoia | yitznewton: go with dayta [09:21:37] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:21:51] atz | it's sorta what LoC subject headings were supposed to do [09:21:53] ndushay | hydra allows updates to fedora objects - that's part of the point. [09:21:54] rsinger | oh sure, for HIM you use say dayta [09:21:58] ---| ---> dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [09:22:00] atz | but more [09:22:02] yitznewton | @decide data or lore [09:22:02] zoia | yitznewton: go with lore [09:22:04] jrochkind | i like it [09:22:06] BillDueber | This is awesome stuff [09:22:09] lbjay | iframes-- [09:22:14] anarchivist | hydra++ [09:22:27] ndushay | anarchivist: not that you're biased. ;-) [09:22:36] akorphan | I had a case a while ago where iframes were a necessity. Luckily, it wasn't a public-facing production website. [09:22:36] ndushay | hydra++ [09:22:39] ndushay | (me too) [09:22:42] escowles | 1 pound = 20 shillings = 240 pence # lsd [09:22:53] akorphan | escowles: I shoulda stuck to my gums. [09:22:54] jrochkind | so do those user-added content pieces go into the Solr index? Or do they just stay in the external store? [09:22:56] anarchivist | ndushay: i mean, i'd be impressed if i wasn't biased :) [09:23:01] ---| ---> davidWalker [~chatzilla@cpe-76-176-169-253.san.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [09:23:03] rsinger | holy cow [09:23:10] ---| ---> julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [09:23:11] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: asnagy) [09:23:11] lbjay | @sing sixpence none the richer [09:23:13] zoia | 'cause I don't have much to love / much to love / much to love / much to love [09:23:25] anarchivist | nd.edu++ [09:23:30] bmljenny | Niiiice [09:23:30] akorphan | shave and a haircut... sixpence! [09:23:34] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:23:41] ---| ---> rjw_ [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has joined #code4lib [09:23:41] ndushay | bess: anarchivist: does it update Solr immediately? [09:23:44] jtgorman | is any of this being cycled back into hydra? [09:23:44] jstirnaman | lbjay++ [09:23:48] jrochkind | so this 'plugin' they wrote for Hydra, is it available for other Hydra users to use, with an easy install? [09:23:49] ndushay | i think it does. [09:23:52] ---| ---> joshbishoff [9c383b4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.76] has joined #code4lib [09:23:56] bess | ndushay: JMS messaging, so it's pretty close to immediate [09:23:57] atz | nd.edu++ .... this stuff isn't mind-blowing, it's just *right* [09:23:58] anarchivist | ndushay: yeah, i think so [09:24:02] anarchivist | jrochkind: it's on gthub [09:24:07] anarchivist | s/gthub/github [09:24:07] akorphan | no_image_available_image-- [09:24:08] bess | jrochkind: yes, it's just a folder you put in the plugins folder. [09:24:12] scolford | sweet [09:24:14] anna3lc | lbjay++ makes metadata funny [09:24:18] bess | jrochkind: whether they've shared THIS plugin I dunno [09:24:19] jrochkind | sweet. good for them, good for all of us for making it possible. :) [09:24:22] awead | jrochkind: it's on github, I believe [09:24:24] akorphan | my metadata tastes funny... [09:24:28] ---| ---> chuck [8cb6e73e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.231.62] has joined #code4lib [09:24:37] ndushay | bess: and the difference between hydra and hydrangea is ... [09:24:42] jrochkind | bess: wait, what's the "it" that's just a folder you put in the plugins folder, if you aren't ure if this one is a plugin? [09:24:44] anarchivist | github++ [09:24:49] akorphan | ndushay: One's a mythical creature and the other's a plant. [09:24:57] jrochkind | nice, they're answering my question. :) [09:24:59] jtgorman | ndushay: hydrangeai's a reference implementation, kinda [09:25:00] jrochkind | I like these guys. [09:25:02] ndushay | akorphan++ [09:25:13] jtgorman | from what I understand [09:25:14] dlovins | This is pretty cool stuff. [09:25:19] ---| ---> gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has joined #code4lib [09:25:22] anarchivist | jrochkind: https://github.com/ndliblis/hydra_exhibit [09:25:23] rajnb | Here is the link for the project: https://github.com/ndliblis/hydra_exhibit [09:25:30] bess | jrochkind: no, no, they've definitely developed a plugin. I just don't know whether they've made the code for their plugin available. [09:25:38] ndushay | to all: open source needs to make it easy to separate localized code from project code [09:25:44] bess | ah, and lit looks like they have shared it YAY! [09:25:45] anarchivist | jrochkind: yeah, not sure the plugin code is out yet [09:25:52] ndushay | and NO contributions without passing tests. [09:25:52] jrochkind | if they're updating the solr index immediately... they might have trouble with scaling. Solr indexes do not like being updated too frequently. [09:25:55] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:25:55] ---| User: *** rjw_ is now known as rjw [09:25:55] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer) [09:26:03] MrDys | twitter list of attendees is up: http://twitter.com/code4lib/attendees-2011 let me know if you need to be added [09:26:05] jrochkind | blacklight-only version not dependent on fedora! [09:26:09] ---| <<-- ASmith [8cb6e4e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.228.227] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:26:09] jrochkind | These guys are my code-sharing heroes! [09:26:14] ndushay | jrochkind: how many people do you think are updating records? [09:26:25] rsinger | jrochkind: well, it's not like special collections tend to be terribly volatile [09:26:28] jtgorman | jrochkind: you almost have to though if it's end-user's adding info [09:26:35] ---| ---> altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:26:36] jrochkind | ndushay: no idea. but if even just ONCE two people update within 10 seconds of each other... and that brings down your Solr... that would be a problem. [09:26:37] mbklein | clap clap clap clap clap clap [09:26:43] jrochkind | jtgorman: thus the problem, cause Solr don't like that. [09:26:50] rsinger | jrochkind: plus they're not going to have huge numbers of documents [09:26:55] jrochkind | jtgorman: if you batch the changes and deploy the change queue every 10 minutes or something, that can solve that. [09:27:01] ejk | github++ [09:27:02] jaron | non-fedora version of this plugin would be great [09:27:06] MrDys | that is a long last name [09:27:08] timmcgeary | collaboration++ [09:27:11] lbjay | jaron: was thinking that too [09:27:13] jrochkind | rsinger: they're not going to have a huge nubmer of documents in their solr/fedora? Why not? [09:27:15] duspal | thanks_page++ [09:27:18] escowles | jrochkind: you can update solr all the time, iff you don't need to do queries at the same time [09:27:19] jtgorman | jrochkind: cause otherwise the time-delay is too hard. maybe like a lot of places do and have a temporary index / long-term index [09:27:20] ndushay | werewolf++ [09:27:22] erikhatcher | code4lib10++ [09:27:36] chelociraptor | werewolf++ [09:27:43] ---| ---> pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has joined #code4lib [09:27:46] BillDueber | ndushay: That wasn't a question! [09:27:52] jrochkind | escowles: what do you mean if you don't need to do queries at the same time? Why wouldn't you need to do queries at the same time? I don't understand the case you are suggesting. [09:27:54] timmcgeary | ndushay++ [09:27:54] ndushay | so penalize me. [09:28:00] ranti | werewolf would compete with neckbeard geeks... [09:28:03] knickum | was that a question? [09:28:05] BillDueber | OK. ndushay-- :-) [09:28:08] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [09:28:10] ndushay | give the speakers feedback. [09:28:12] ---| ---> joyce [9c383b4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.74] has joined #code4lib [09:28:21] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:28:25] ndushay | it sucks when you talk and there is no feedback and no questions. [09:28:27] rsinger | jrochkind: everything in speccolls collections are done by hand - by your local archivists/speccolls librarians [09:28:27] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [09:28:36] ndushay | it makes you think everyone hated it or wasn't paying attention. [09:28:37] ---| ---> sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has joined #code4lib [09:28:39] ---| ---> masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:28:39] jtgorman | ndushay: we're not going to say anything, but Alex Trebek is very upset [09:28:47] mbklein | @werewolforcode4libber chelociraptor [09:28:47] rsinger | jrochkind: so the scale is smaller. period. [09:28:48] zoia | mbklein: i can cut the crusts off too if you want [09:28:48] atz | https://github.com/ngauthier/hydra [09:28:49] escowles | jrochkind: updates to one server/core then snapshot/replicate to a second for queries [09:28:52] ---| ---> willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [09:28:54] timmcgeary | jtgorman++ [09:29:06] mbklein | Hmm…what happened to @werewolforcode4libber? :( [09:29:16] ndushay | BillDueber: take it back! my rankings need help! [09:29:17] jrochkind | escowles: aha, right. Only replicate every 10 minutes or something, yeah. That's one way to queue up your changes. [09:29:24] BillDueber | @karma ndushay [09:29:24] zoia | BillDueber: Karma for "ndushay" has been increased 47 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 45. [09:29:25] timmcgeary | jtgorman: "I'll take S words for 500, Alex" [09:29:30] mbklein | bess++ [09:29:31] dchud | bess++ [09:29:33] lbjay | @homelessorcode4libber mbklein [09:29:33] zoia | mbklein = WEREWOLF! [09:29:37] timmcgeary | bess++ [09:29:37] pberry | Planted question! [09:29:38] jtgorman | bess++ [09:29:38] anarchivist | subtlety++ [09:29:41] mbklein | lbjay++ ah, right. [09:29:43] BillDueber | PLANT! [09:29:43] dbs | ndushay++ # you say many wise things [09:29:45] rsinger | seriously, i think you're overanalyzing the use of a special collections discovery service [09:29:48] ---| ---> ndgeek [~jrittenh@nd-129-74-230-63.nat.nd.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:29:52] mbklein | @homelessorcode4libber chelociraptor [09:29:52] zoia | chelociraptor = homeless [09:30:11] ndushay | think "institutional repository" not "special collections" and jonathan has an excellent point. [09:30:13] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:15] rsinger | i think you could easily do realtime updates with commits in solr without impacting anybody [09:30:20] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:30:22] ---| <<-- petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:30:29] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:31] ndushay | dbs: thanks, but i think most of my karma comes from bad jokes. [09:30:33] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:33] timmcgeary | ouch! Bell rings before the talk even starts [09:30:35] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [09:30:42] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:43] lbjay | jrochkind: when you say there could be problems sending lots of small updates to solr are you assuming an optimize operation each time? [09:30:45] ndushay | another mac user on windoze. [09:30:50] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [09:30:56] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Quit: highermath_away) [09:30:56] ---| <<-- danhorst1 [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:31:06] dlovins | napkin_drawings++ [09:31:08] ndushay | tick tick tick [09:31:13] timmcgeary | librar-copter++ [09:31:13] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:31:14] rsinger | yeah, i don't think you would need to optimize [09:31:15] ndushay | napkin_drawings+ [09:31:16] ---| ---> chumpanzee [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has joined #code4lib [09:31:17] jrochkind | lbjay: nope. without an optimize. [09:31:24] harvel | napkin_drawings++ [09:31:25] ndushay | napkin_drawings++ [09:31:27] ksclarke1 | napkin_drawings++ [09:31:29] timmcgeary | s/ar/ary [09:31:35] anarchivist | ndushay: the problem is powerpoint [09:31:38] helrond | office_2010 -- [09:31:40] harvel | @karma napkin_drawings [09:31:40] zoia | harvel: Karma for "napkin_drawings" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [09:31:46] csharp | anarchivist++ [09:31:54] ndushay | what the heck is at the very top of the screen? [09:31:57] scolford | electronic_book_with_plug++ [09:32:00] timmcgeary | volunteers++ [09:32:11] jstirnaman | spare_time++ [09:32:11] mbklein | ndushay: A virtual "ragged edge" [09:32:15] ndushay | those drawings really are awesome. [09:32:18] helrond | ndushay: the top of the screen? [09:32:19] escowles | ndushay: curtains overhanging [09:32:20] anarchivist | mbklein: i got one of those [09:32:20] pberry | buzzwords++ [09:32:21] harvel | ndushay: a curtain? [09:32:26] mlevy | sparks and smoke! [09:32:26] ndushay | it's the bottom of some text [09:32:36] jrochkind | lbjay: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolrPerformanceFactors#Updates_and_Commit_Frequency_Tradeoffs [09:32:37] paulalbert | I think I see Jimmy Hoffa's body. [09:32:37] dchud | great illustration [09:32:38] mbklein | anarchivist: Someone cut you? [09:32:43] escowles | powerpoint-- [09:32:43] KingNightWolf | lol [09:32:44] mbklein | @who cut anarchivist? [09:32:44] zoia | nabeta cut anarchivist. [09:32:45] lbjay | jrochkind++ [09:32:50] atz | dude, hydras github repo already has 322 watchers and 36 forks! [09:32:51] jtgorman | dinosaurs++ [09:32:51] harvel | dinosaur++ [09:32:52] ndushay | i'm going to pay attention to the talk now. [09:32:52] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:32:58] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:32:59] akorphan | Does the book contain all books including itself? [09:33:01] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:33:02] pjb1 | the drawing needs more tunnels [09:33:08] MrDys | atz: that's part of what it takes to develop a hydra app...everything is a fork [09:33:10] jrochkind | lbjay: that's written in terms of replication, but really applies to any commits at all, not just commits triggered by a replication pull. [09:33:16] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:33:22] duspal | 'zines++ [09:33:23] akorphan | Furthermore, could we make a book that contains all books that contain themselves? And then another book that contains all books that DON'T contain themselves? [09:33:24] jtgorman | atz: at least one of those is probably mine, so I don't know if it counts [09:33:25] ndushay | is that a tree or a mushroom? [09:33:26] atz | MrDys: i get that, i say it as a sign of use/respect [09:33:38] anna3lc | ndushay: a lamp [09:33:43] akorphan | I'm digging the art on these slides [09:33:46] pjb1 | jenga game [09:33:52] atz | MrDys: i've got several (less popular) repos on their [09:33:52] akorphan | You shanked my jengaship! [09:33:54] atz | *there [09:33:55] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:33:55] escowles | mushroom cloud? [09:34:01] ndushay | chicago has a library by techies meeting every tues evening? [09:34:03] timmcgeary | akorphan++ [09:34:07] freqlurker | yo dawg, I heard you want a book of books [09:34:10] KingNightWolf | I don't get the drawings [09:34:17] akorphan | freqlurker++ [09:34:20] ---| ---> altaria_ [~chatzilla@207.210.129.2] has joined #code4lib [09:34:20] lbjay | @dunno add You shanked my jengaship! [09:34:20] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1123 added. [09:34:32] mbklein | freqlurker: I put a book in your book so you can read while you read. [09:34:39] freqlurker | whoa [09:34:53] MrDys | sound like their subject system would make a good visualization [09:34:53] ranti | +200ndushay: I believe she said catalogers [09:34:58] * mbklein never figured out the semantics of how a @yo_dawg plugin should work. [09:35:08] akorphan | OK, so if there's a book that contains all books that don't contain themselves... does that book contain itself or not? [09:35:10] freqlurker | love the design of this presentation [09:35:12] ---| ---> caroldotou [9c383b2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.45] has joined #code4lib [09:35:16] ---| ---> cajunjoel [9c383a9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.154] has joined #code4lib [09:35:17] atz | akorphan: ask borges [09:35:23] jtgorman | akorphan: who shaves the barber? [09:35:25] jrochkind | akorphan: is that a borges story? [09:35:52] ndushay | so are they saying they need hydra to capture the stories? [09:35:55] akorphan | jrochkind atz: I always think of it as a Russell-ism, but maybe I just haven't read enough borges. [09:35:58] bess | jrochkind: it's sort of like the library of babel by borges, right? Or The Aleph, also by Borges. [09:36:04] KingNightWolf | new age presentation style done on a Etch A Sketch [09:36:09] anna3lc | akorphan++ [09:36:15] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:36:15] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:36:24] ndushay | KingNightWolf: maybe on an ipad [09:36:27] ---| <<-- altaria [~chatzilla@156-56-58-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:36:28] morgan8 | All books contain them self. [09:36:31] ---| User: *** altaria_ is now known as altaria [09:36:33] atz | Etch-A-Pad [09:36:33] rsinger | jrochkind: i still don't think that we're talking about the number of updates that that page is warning about [09:36:35] ---| <<-- tcat [9c383a3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.59] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:36:36] ---| ---> jillern [981ea34d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.30.163.77] has joined #code4lib [09:36:42] ranti | I really like this presentation design; that gives the sense of down-to-earth, community style. [09:36:46] anna3lc | are the books regular books or are they made by the members of the library? [09:36:49] mbklein | bess: You're taking the conversation dangerously close to the gaping void in my knowledge set known as "humanities" [09:36:49] jrochkind | rsinger: more than one within 5 or 10 minute window can cause it. We certainly are. [09:36:50] lbjay | rsinger: yeah [09:36:50] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [09:36:53] jrochkind | rsinger: I've seen it happen. [09:36:56] mbklein | huge_manatees++ [09:36:59] anarchivist | anna3lc: i think it can be both [09:37:00] ndushay | mbklein++ [09:37:14] bess | I had a great talk with these folks in the hospitality suite the other night. The thing that worries me about their project is that all the stuff is stored directly in drupal. I tried to talk them into looking at islandora so the objects would go into a more durable repository. [09:37:16] jtgorman | jrochkind, akorphan: you're both right. Russel = set theory / Borges = played w/ set theory w/ short story of library of everything, even that which is not [09:37:27] ranti | bess++ [09:37:30] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:37:34] akorphan | jtgorman++ [09:37:35] ndushay | bess++ [09:37:36] jrochkind | rsinger: depends on how long it takes your new index version to be warmed. Two commits within that time window will double your RAM usage as well as CPU. Three will triple it. Etc. [09:37:36] mbklein | bess: So it would be more Fedurable? [09:37:43] ---| ---> goose [8cb694a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.164] has joined #code4lib [09:37:44] ndushay | mbklein++ [09:37:46] anarchivist | @whois fedurable [09:37:46] zoia | anarchivist: Error: must be in .com, .net, .edu, or .org. [09:37:47] bess | mbklein++ # groan [09:37:51] lbjay | @eightball was it royt? [09:37:51] zoia | lbjay: It is so. [09:37:54] ndushay | i'll just go in the corner and become invisible. [09:37:54] anarchivist | @who is fedorable? [09:37:54] alxp | lbess++ doing the lord's work [09:37:55] zoia | bohyunkim is fedorable. [09:37:55] jrochkind | morgan8: makes a pretty good point about all books including themselves, definitionally. [09:38:00] MrDys | that's great metadata [09:38:00] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:38:00] alxp | bess++ rather [09:38:02] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:38:07] mbklein | anarchivist++ [09:38:09] ---| User: *** goose is now known as Guest56343 [09:38:10] zoia | Can you shut the hell up for one minute about the metadata? [09:38:20] bmljenny | Kinda reminds me of college classes where profs would start with a transparency and draw/write on it during class [09:38:20] anarchivist | @dance [09:38:20] zoia | o/ [09:38:21] zoia | /| [09:38:22] zoia | >> [09:38:27] ndushay | it's a lovefest. [09:38:27] anna3lc | does the underground library have a building or is it scattered around people's apartments? [09:38:36] rsinger | Fedorable [09:38:37] ndushay | i'm ready for a new slide [09:38:39] akorphan | Yo dawg, I heard you like self-reference, so I put some references in your references so you can reference while you reference. [09:38:43] ---| ---> grk2me [~chatzilla@156-56-58-73.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:38:52] anarchivist | anna3lc: they have a physical space [09:38:56] ndushay | i can't focus on the prez w/o slides. [09:38:58] bess | anna3lc: apparently they have a very small rented office, which isn't even in a basement. false advertising. :) [09:39:00] jrochkind | pretty neat project. [09:39:04] timmcgeary | akorphan++ [09:39:07] anarchivist | anna3lc: http://underground-library.org/ [09:39:16] anna3lc | rad thx [09:39:23] jrochkind | I've been thinking public libraries should be doing things a lot like what htey're describing. But of course they aren't. [09:39:41] pmurray | jrochkind: Yes -- this would be a good role for public libraries. [09:39:42] BillDueber | jrochkind: Some are. But not many. [09:39:55] atz | jrochkind: actually, many are. also local PBS stations. [09:39:57] jrochkind | but that would be a great role for a public library, archiving community history in a community-generated way. [09:40:04] scolford | jrochkind: Give me your money and I'll get it done. [09:40:06] maccabee | awesome organization [09:40:07] ndushay | jrochkind: you have a frightening number of good ideas. [09:40:13] maccabee | celebrating the local [09:40:13] ---| ---> stevermiles [8cb6f842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.66] has joined #code4lib [09:40:15] jrochkind | atz BillDueber : example of a public library doing this sort of thing interestingly? [09:40:19] was | Might be a better fit for publicly-funded university lib [09:40:34] atz | columbus public. also orange county florida (w/ kete i set up) [09:40:40] KingNightWolf | http://underground-library.org/ check out the website [09:40:45] bess | the center for history & new media is doing some neat stuff around archiving local history [09:40:47] * dlovins appreciated the phrase "all this theory I just spewed at you" [09:40:48] ndushay | wordpress? drupal? hmmm. [09:40:49] KingNightWolf | the keep with the them [09:40:58] eby | jrochkind: We're starting to work on it [09:41:01] jrochkind | sweet, thanks atz. Is that using that Koha software? What's it called again? Kete or something? [09:41:03] bohyunkim | drupal [09:41:04] akorphan | Wait, what's a metadata? [09:41:06] jrochkind | eby: where are you 'we'? [09:41:09] akorphan | and where can I get one? [09:41:17] eby | Ann arbor jrochkind [09:41:18] dericed1 | metadata? :( [09:41:19] erikhatcher | "most of our catalogers wouldn't know metadata if they saw it".... did she really say that?! LOL [09:41:27] anna3lc | metadatum [09:41:28] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [09:41:28] zoia | can you tell me more about this metadata stuff? [09:41:30] akorphan | @ana metadata [09:41:31] zoia | akorphan: Tame data [09:41:33] jrochkind | erikhatcher: yeah, that would be somewhat disturbing. [09:41:40] atz | jrochkind: yeah, it's kete, a different NZ-initiated platform [09:41:45] lbjay | i have a site i'd like to move from wordpress to drupal [09:41:45] bess | erikhatcher: But remember, their catalogers are untrained members of the community, not library staff. :) [09:41:53] ---| <--- cajunjoel [9c383a9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.154] has left #code4lib () [09:41:55] dchud | we should really discourage or disallow doubling-up on lightning talks :( [09:41:57] akorphan | HELLO SIR I WOULD LIKE ONE METADATUM PLEASE. [09:42:01] dbs | jrochkind: OurOntario is that project (archiving community history in a community-generated way) for our province [09:42:07] anarchivist | dchud: is that happening? [09:42:15] jrochkind | one fantasy I had is a public library would be like "bring in all your old shoeboxes of family snapshots, we'll digitize em, put em on the web, and preserve em for free." [09:42:21] bess | dbs++ YES! How come we never see OurOntario at code4lib?? [09:42:22] dchud | anarchivist: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_Lightning_Talks_Signup [09:42:23] jrochkind | dbs: sweet. [09:42:26] atz | a reasonable counterpart to koha, but can handle dublin core and other formats of metadata beyond what koha does [09:42:27] lbjay | In Chicago Underground Library metadata have opinion about you! [09:42:27] anarchivist | @ana preservation isn't free [09:42:27] zoia | anarchivist: Finer, sportive earnest [09:42:30] rsinger | metadatum++ [09:42:39] dchud | i mean, i'm excited to see two people from France wanting to speak, don't get me wrong [09:42:44] anna3lc | jrochkind: that is a sweet idea [09:42:45] dchud | but it's not a 10-minutes slot, yknow? [09:42:47] erikhatcher | OurOntario++ # SuperConference!!! [09:42:47] scolford | jrochkind: that may be coming to Massachusetts in the next couple years. Can't say much more than that. [09:42:49] dbs | bess: Knowledge Ontario is under intense funding pressure [09:42:51] bmljenny | At my uni we try to have as little to do with the community as possible. Ew, commoners. [09:42:53] was | one fantasy I had was "bring in all your old national geographics, and we'll preserve them forever" [09:42:55] jrochkind | scolford: awesome. [09:42:57] ---| <<-- fresco [~fresco@london.office.mendeley.com] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:43:01] escowles | anarchivist: we were going to do that before mcritchlow was distracted by credit card fraud [09:43:06] paulalbert | CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS "DRUPAL" IS? [09:43:13] anarchivist | eby++ # Ryan Eby - Does anyone else hate this shit? (metadata and what not) [09:43:19] decasm_ | Dr Rupaul [09:43:23] jrochkind | I'd kind of like to work for a public library cause I like public library mission in theory, but when I was applying for jobs NO public library I could find was doing anything interesting with technology. I didn't want to be a sysadmin. [09:43:23] eby | jrochkind: We did that with some. We're thinking of expanding it [09:43:24] BillDueber | $5 says the password was "catalog" [09:43:26] rsinger | lbjay: the downside of wp->drupal is that you're increasing your administrative workload, like tenfold [09:43:27] anarchivist | escowles: going to do what? [09:43:34] pberry | Is catalogerx anything like Terminator X? [09:43:36] rsinger | @hate systems administrating [09:43:38] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. rsinger hates systems administrating. [09:43:40] jrochkind | but sounds like some public libraries are getting into interesting stuff, sweet. [09:43:48] escowles | anarchivist: do two lightning talks [09:43:49] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:43:50] KingNightWolf | no no it was catalogerx [09:43:51] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:43:52] anarchivist | escowles: ahh right [09:43:56] anarchivist | drupal++ [09:43:59] eby | jrochkind: We just took over the failed local newspapers photo archive so that has sucked up our digitization [09:44:00] dbs | dchud: ack. that doubling-up trick bugged me the first time it happened three or four code4libs ago [09:44:00] jrochkind | meanwhile, this project in this presentation is awesome. [09:44:21] ecorrado | double_booking-- [09:44:27] jrochkind | eby: that's still a useful thing to do though, cool. Not quite as cool as digitizing stuff from the general public. [09:44:33] anarchivist | double_fisting++ [09:44:35] dchud | dbs: yeah, this is what happens when we regularly fail to post rules for the lightning talks [09:44:51] decasm_ | someone should unceremoniously delete one of the dup'ed lightning talks. [09:44:55] decasm_ | ;) [09:45:02] rsinger | jrochkind: i feel the same way - i would love to work for the public library here - but I have no idea how to convince them to want me :) [09:45:04] dbs | dchud: rules need suitable punishment for violators [09:45:08] pberry | This project requires lots of devotion, which makes it pretty awesome [09:45:12] BillDueber | eby++ # very worthwhile project [09:45:16] jrochkind | if there are all these public libraries doing interesting stuff with archiving community history like you all just told me... how come none of them come to code4lib? [09:45:18] eby | jrochkind: Yeah we digitized some general public but fell behind. [09:45:19] erikhatcher | "our catalog is a random view of anything in the collection" [09:45:25] dchud | dbs: in this case it just needs somebody to say "choose one" [09:45:30] eby | I'm right here jrochkind [09:45:35] jrochkind | eby++ [09:45:37] rsinger | plus, well, they probably would pay me less than the poverty line [09:45:40] freqlurker | great ideas here, unsure about implementation [09:45:45] dbs | dchud: awww, that's entirely too reasonable! [09:45:47] jrochkind | eby: so you should do a presentation on what your public library is doing! Lightning talk today? [09:45:50] erikhatcher | library_copter++ [09:45:50] atz | columbus metropolitan library also assumed control of the entire state library geneological archives, which is like the 150-year-old version of this community-archive [09:45:53] ndushay | i wonder if i should do a lightening talk of my prez for those people leaving early. [09:45:57] ---| ---> tcat [9c383a3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.59] has joined #code4lib [09:45:59] mbklein | library_copter++ [09:46:00] lbjay | so two guys talking about two different things. just happens to be the same organization. what's the big deal? [09:46:00] dbs | library_copter++ [09:46:01] ndushay | seems too piggy [09:46:03] * ecorrado wants a library copter [09:46:06] rsinger | @dunno add We wouldn't have this problem if we had more library-copters. [09:46:07] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1124 added. [09:46:12] timmcgeary | @decide problems or opportunities for growth [09:46:13] zoia | timmcgeary: go with opportunities for growth [09:46:17] dchud | dbs: like i said, though, i'm glad to see two people from another country signing up, and the list isn't otherwise full, so... [09:46:20] timmcgeary | zoia++ [09:46:26] ndushay | library_copter++ [09:46:28] dchud | library_copter++ [09:46:33] bmljenny | jrochkind: Guessing they feel their people are at ALA, Hard to justify multiple trips per year [09:46:34] eby | jrochkind: Doing one on only using ils for inventory and keeping data outside, but could expand it [09:46:34] timmcgeary | library_copter++ [09:46:45] ndushay | i wonder if I can commission them to do my slides. [09:47:28] decasm_ | library_velocicoptor [09:47:38] BillDueber | indelible-- invisible++ [09:47:45] MrDys | the bowel movement? [09:47:57] harvel | @decide indelible ink or the bowel movement [09:47:58] zoia | harvel: go with the bowel movement [09:48:01] timmcgeary | @ana library copter [09:48:01] zoia | timmcgeary: Cap or terribly [09:48:03] dchud | i don't wanna work, i just wanna fly my library copter all day [09:48:04] paulalbert | We administer sodium amytal to all catalogers to make sure their records weren't fabricated. [09:48:07] mbklein | My question isn't "why aren't more public institutions doing this?" It's "why are they all forced to invent it from the ground up?" [09:48:09] jrochkind | hmm, if I put out like a call for the Journal, people doing interesting technology things at public libraries, write up a blurb and we'll compile em all into a little state of public library tech innovation article, think anyone would write stuff? [09:48:11] anarchivist | @band add Indelible Ink and the Bowel Movement [09:48:11] zoia | anarchivist: Band 'Indelible Ink and the Bowel Movement' added to list [09:48:20] BillDueber | "the digital era was just a hershey bar in your father's back pocket"???? [09:48:21] ---| ---> mmmmmrob [~mmmmmrob@host81-139-64-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #code4lib [09:48:22] harvel | anarchivist++ [09:48:24] anarchivist | mbklein: public libraries are deeply broken place, which is why [09:48:27] decasm_ | anarchivist: i hear that band is crap [09:48:31] timmcgeary | @ana extensible [09:48:31] zoia | timmcgeary: Bent sex lie [09:48:34] bess | islandora++ :) [09:48:35] KingNightWolf | I Want a library copter where can I get one [09:48:38] scolford | jrochkind: maybe... [09:48:47] pmurray | zoia-- [09:48:49] jrochkind | mbklein: what's scary to me is that I believe they may be even more broken than academic libraries, which are already pretty darn broken. :) [09:48:51] timmcgeary | zoia: wow! [09:48:51] zoia | timmcgeary: an NDA is required for me to answer that question [09:48:55] KingNightWolf | aaa there is an app for that [09:48:55] pberry | What does "more stable" mean in this context? [09:48:57] erikhatcher | @ana enterprise [09:48:57] zoia | erikhatcher: In pesterer [09:49:02] BillDueber | How is the RDFa in Drupal? Easy? Hardish? [09:49:08] anarchivist | BillDueber: easy easy easy [09:49:18] pmurray | zoia: An RDA is required for me to ask that question. [09:49:18] zoia | pmurray: uses information to slay ----> MONSTERS [09:49:20] bess | pberry: right now all their stuff is stored in Drupal, which isn't a preservation strategy. [09:49:21] alxp | BillDueber: in Drupal 7 quite braindead easy [09:49:28] jtgorman | I don't know much about drupal, does it have a built in database? [09:49:43] anna3lc | chicago_underground_library++ [09:49:45] pberry | bess: Ah, thanks [09:49:49] anarchivist | jtgorman: no, runs on top of mysql or postgres [09:49:50] gsf | yeah this is neat [09:49:54] bmljenny | I love both of these first presos. [09:49:55] atz | jrochkind: OCLS (FL) example: http://dc.ocls.info/en/site/all/topics?page=2 [09:49:55] zacho | also runs on sqlite! [09:50:02] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:50:03] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:50:08] mtomko | does anything harvest information in pages encoded as rdfa? [09:50:14] jrochkind | atz: nice, that's user-uploaded content? [09:50:18] timmcgeary | @ana chicago underground library [09:50:19] zoia | timmcgeary: On grouchier, candid burglary [09:50:23] jtgorman | anarchivist: ah, ok, that makes sense. Was wondering how literal the phrase was of "stored in Drupal" [09:50:25] atz | yeah, a lot from local churches it looks like [09:50:28] jrochkind | sweet. [09:50:29] jrochkind | i like that. [09:50:30] scolford | bmljenny: indeed [09:50:36] pmurray | By the way: Idea for Virtual Lightning Talks - https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1102&L=CODE4LIB&T=0&F=&S=&P=37292 [09:50:40] BillDueber | Hey, if folks still need/want advil, I've got some. [09:50:56] anarchivist | BillDueber: yes please. where are you sitting? [09:51:00] * mbklein has Excedrin Migraine also, if anyone needs. [09:51:01] rsinger | jtgorman: yeah, it's not like plone [09:51:08] jrochkind | atz: 2500 photos isn't really very many though. [09:51:11] bmljenny | I would love to see this in san Diego. [09:51:26] atz | no, it's still a baby project [09:51:26] mbklein | Excedrin Migraine is chemically identical in all ways to normal Extra Strength Excedrin, but with the word "Migraine" on the label. [09:51:32] BillDueber | Raising my hand now [09:51:32] dbs | Is "advil" the upgraded server that will replace "anvil"? [09:51:33] * erikhatcher claps [09:51:34] rsinger | mtomko: google, yahoo, bing [09:51:51] eby | bess: The data structure isn't or drupal itself [09:51:52] rsinger | mtomko: so, yes. [09:51:57] lbjay | baby_projects-- # all they do is play with their toys [09:51:58] ejk | drupal++ [09:52:05] dbs | gsf++ [09:52:19] lbjay | awww, he calls his laptop "guy" [09:52:22] anna3lc | there is no water in here :( [09:52:23] dbs | mmm... sacrilege [09:52:24] erikhatcher | gsf++ [09:52:25] jrochkind | gsf: man, we keep talking amongst ourselves DURING your prsesentation too [09:52:25] yitznewton | drupal+- [09:52:26] bess | eby: I don't understand what you just said to me :( [09:52:27] bmljenny | Rhubarb rhubarb [09:52:29] MrDys | @sing grand national : talk amongst yourselves [09:52:30] mbklein | Wait, is this an Enterprise presentation, or a Toy presentation? [09:52:31] zoia | I blame it on myself 'cos i can't keep anything down,anything down, / However hard i do try, / So talk amongst yourselves while i try to figure it out, figure it out. [09:52:33] * rsinger has no one to talk to :( [09:52:35] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:52:37] dchud | no one expects the spanish oh nevermind [09:52:48] tshearerlib | pmurray: virtual lightning talks sounds great [09:52:53] ndushay | dang - i thought that was dan lovins [09:52:54] BillDueber | rsinger: No, rsinger has no one to listen to him. [09:52:56] timmcgeary | rsinger: oh bloody hell [09:53:02] ccurry | Ubuntu++ [09:53:09] eby | bess: The preservation strategy. You think the data structure doesn't allow that or drupal itself [09:53:14] timmcgeary | BIllDueber++ [09:53:17] pmurray | tshearerlib: Thanks for the feedback. I think it'd work. Worth a try, anyway. [09:53:22] rsinger | BillDueber: yeah, no one to talk at. that's what i meant [09:53:27] mbklein | I have 4 Advil and 2 Excedrin. Second table from the back. First come, first served. [09:53:29] decasm_ | ubuntu is so cure [09:53:29] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:53:31] escowles | our two weapons are fear, bacon, dongles -- our three weapons... [09:53:35] decasm_ | s/cure/cute/ [09:53:38] mbklein | escowles++ [09:53:42] bess | escowles++ [09:53:45] ---| <<-- ksclarke1 [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:53:47] julia_ | escowles++ [09:53:49] timmcgeary | @ana fear bacon dongles [09:53:49] zoia | timmcgeary: Angel-face or bonds [09:53:51] ---| <<-- ablemann [~ablemann@147.226.131.10] has quit (Quit: leaving) [09:53:53] lbjay | gsf++ [09:53:57] rsinger | but gsf looks cool during his technology FAIL at least [09:54:11] ecorrado | switching_computers-- [09:54:17] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [09:54:18] dbs | It's the curse of CouchDB live presos [09:54:21] BillDueber | @sing harry nielson : everybody's talkin' at me [09:54:22] zoia | BillDueber: No lyrics found for everybody's talkin' at me by harry nielson [09:54:23] mbklein | gsf++ [09:54:27] bmljenny | Hoot [09:54:27] escowles | gsf is on teevee [09:54:27] timmcgeary | presentation_cam++ [09:54:27] pmurray | large_gsf-- [09:54:27] BillDueber | Hrumph [09:54:30] dchud | gabeyhead [09:54:35] mbklein | dchud++ [09:54:37] BillDueber | Hmmm. none more black. [09:54:40] csharp | projector_issues-- [09:54:42] maccabee | are we watching clips from the blair witch project? [09:54:43] anna3lc | giant gsf: a threat to humanity? [09:54:44] mbklein | @decide gabeyhead or babyhead [09:54:44] zoia | mbklein: go with babyhead [09:54:45] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:54:47] lbjay | wait for it... [09:54:49] ---| ---> ablemann [~ablemann@147.226.131.10] has joined #code4lib [09:54:50] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has quit (Quit: JodiS) [09:54:51] ---| ---> cwilper [ad579d07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.87.157.7] has joined #code4lib [09:54:58] rsinger | BUFFERING [09:55:00] decasm_ | *gong* [09:55:02] erikhatcher | gsf: get a mac [09:55:09] rsinger | decasm++ [09:55:11] emorgan | Hello world. [09:55:13] pberry | Are irc logs available? [09:55:14] timmcgeary | decasm++ [09:55:15] pmurray | ^^^ What erikhatcher said [09:55:18] rsinger | erikhatcher: exactly [09:55:19] paulalbert | I sense an upcoming Citizen Kane moment. [09:55:22] pberry | I checked irc.code4lib.org [09:55:23] jtgorman | pberry: not officially anymore [09:55:25] * dbs hatesesss the nasty Kubuntu that crashed on him on the way to the podium for his CowchDB preso [09:55:26] dchud | zoia: no way dude i'm going with gabeyhead all the way. no contest. [09:55:27] zoia | dchud: I don't like hypotheticals, it's like lying to your brain [09:55:31] escowles | pberry: my boss says so [09:55:34] yo_bj | and this is why we don't switch computers [09:55:34] dlovins | erikhatcher++ [09:55:38] anna3lc | gabeyhead++ [09:55:39] emorgan | Irc is brutal [09:55:41] * ecorrado starts timer [09:55:43] rsinger | damn you, gsf, and your anarchist ideals for wasting my time [09:55:50] MrDys | rsinger++ [09:55:50] anarchivist | yo_bj: yeah, i elected to not use my laptop afterall [09:55:51] jtgorman | pberry: we stopped...at some point...I think due to technical failures. Might have just been general [09:55:52] bess | eby: I think drupal itself isn't a good preservation strategy. I'm happy to admit that I'm not an expert on drupal. But AFAIK, that's just not what drupal was designed for. Especially in a context like this, where you're creating an expectation of preservation for the community, I'd want the objects stored in a system that was designed for preservation and migration. Since that's not really that hard to do, it seems like a good idea. [09:55:56] pberry | Margret was hoping to see the chat [09:56:05] ejk | The topic says IRC is being logged for the duration of the conference... [09:56:05] jtgorman | well, that was grubby [09:56:08] rickj | pberry: i remember seeing once the conference started it is being archived, so probably eventually [09:56:10] anna3lc | computor!!! [09:56:14] eefcee | slides better be good! [09:56:15] dchud | reboot! [09:56:16] jrochkind | bess: me and atz were talking and realized we really had no idea what made something a good preservation strategy or not. [09:56:19] jtgorman | oh, so it does [09:56:20] anarchivist | bess: we should talk about this more [09:56:21] timmcgeary | rsinger: is it warmer across the pond than here? [09:56:22] lbjay | pberry: it will be published soon [09:56:22] jtgorman | who's logging it? [09:56:31] atz | bess: it's true. [09:56:33] ---| ---> karenh [~chatzilla@156-56-58-105.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:56:34] dbs | erikhatcher: if he had a mac, then he'd need to search around for the right proprietary dongle [09:56:34] mbklein | Come back, Ali! Come back, Ali's sister! [09:56:36] decasm_ | ah. he boots straight to X. that's the problem. [09:56:36] erikhatcher | gsf is calm and cool though under pressure. gsf++ # sucks to have projector woes with a packed room twiddling their thumbs (or irc'ing!) about it [09:56:38] escowles | this is why i stopped using linux and got a mac [09:56:38] * lbjay is logging it [09:56:41] rsinger | timmcgeary: well, i don't know - it's probably slightly warmer in TN than there, though [09:56:43] lbjay | probably others too [09:56:47] rsinger | timmcgeary: i won't know until next week [09:56:51] maccabee | how about one computer running vnc, everyone presenter runs their own server... [09:56:55] timmcgeary | rsinger: it was 19F yesterday [09:57:00] erikhatcher | dbs: one should always carry their proprietary dongles with them. [09:57:02] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:57:02] dchud | rsinger: missin' ya here buddy [09:57:02] ---| ---> tomkeays [~chatzilla@cpe-67-249-120-52.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [09:57:03] jrochkind | erikhatcher: oh wait, there are presentations? I thought we were all just sitting in the same room to irc to each other. [09:57:05] eefcee | live_stream++ [09:57:09] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:57:11] emorgan | ........... [09:57:14] anarchivist | BUFFERING [09:57:14] anna3lc | we are so patient [09:57:15] emorgan | .......... [09:57:15] anarchivist | BUFFERING [09:57:16] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:57:17] anarchivist | BUFFERING [09:57:19] emorgan | ........... [09:57:19] anarchivist | BUFFERING [09:57:20] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:57:21] dchud | go! [09:57:21] anarchivist | BUFFERING [09:57:21] escowles | jrochkind++ [09:57:22] emorgan | .......... [09:57:23] * jaron is all too familiar with ubuntu projector woes [09:57:24] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:57:26] * timmcgeary claps [09:57:27] emorgan | ............ [09:57:28] jaron | gsf++ [09:57:30] highermath_aw | I bought a netbook a while back and attempted to use it for a presentation. I now use it as a fishbowl for Swedish Fish [09:57:31] ---| <<-- gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:57:31] anarchivist | BUFFERING [09:57:31] dchud | buffering applause... [09:57:33] mbklein | sarcastic_applause++ [09:57:33] dbs | w00t! [09:57:36] rsinger | and he still looks cool [09:57:36] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [09:57:40] ejk | Hrm... the live stream is stuck on a guy staring at his laptop [09:57:42] jtgorman | I take back what I said about that night in Vegas [09:57:48] timmcgeary | *ding* [09:57:50] eby | bess: I'd argue that it comes down to the strategy and not t he system. An unmaintained database / store is poor regardless what the system was designed for [09:57:50] erikhatcher | dbs: besides, in that audience, how many such dongles are at hand? "is there a macbook pro VGA dongle in the house?" [09:57:54] decasm_ | i've had this problem before, he just needed to restart X. not reboot the whole system. [09:57:58] akorphan | Hey, so what's the best way to ensure smoothness if one is doing a lightning talk? Yesterday people seemed to be using their own computers to decently ok effect [09:58:01] tokeee | How about having a mirror setup so that next presenters can get their machine to work on that while the current presenter talks? [09:58:02] bmljenny | Seriously, why? [09:58:05] anarchivist | @who let the dongles out? [09:58:05] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:58:06] zoia | tekonivel let the dongles out. [09:58:08] eefcee | I wanna see the screen! [09:58:10] MrDys | freestyle it, gsf [09:58:13] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:58:15] anarchivist | akorphan: put your slides on google docs or a USB key [09:58:16] dbs | erikhatcher: Here's one - oh wait, this is a mini-DVI. No, I need the micro-DVI! [09:58:18] emorgan | I bet he runs over his time. [09:58:18] pmurray | akorphan: It is risky, so those people went last. [09:58:20] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:58:24] csharp | sudo service gdm restart [09:58:27] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:58:28] ---| ---> abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:58:28] MrDys | grumpy video techs are grumpy [09:58:29] anna3lc | premature_clapping-- [09:58:29] * jtgorman is surprised it took that long for a dongle joke [09:58:33] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:58:36] akorphan | anarchivist pmurray: thanks [09:58:42] jdwyn | crash and burn [09:58:44] pmurray | @karma [09:58:44] zoia | pmurray: Highest karma: "mbklein" (422), "edsu" (387), and "anarchivist" (374). Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (pmurray) are ranked 34 out of 3089. [09:58:44] rsinger | ... [09:58:45] yitznewton | she can't hold much longer! [09:58:48] ejk | sudo rm -rf / [09:58:49] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:58:49] highermath_aw | Does this display make my ass look big? [09:58:52] jaf | this is the best lightning talk ever [09:58:56] mbklein | jaf++ [09:58:58] akorphan | sudo make me a sandwich [09:59:04] timmcgeary | jaf: it will be [09:59:23] atz | akorphan: sudo make -f ./sandwich.recipe [09:59:24] rsinger | @who DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE? [09:59:24] zoia | sekjal DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE. [09:59:26] freqlurker | this has been an informative presentation [09:59:27] maxxkrakoa | akorphan++ [09:59:29] yitznewton | chalkboard anyone? [09:59:31] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [09:59:32] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [09:59:39] escowles | akorphan: not in sudoers file, request will be logged... [09:59:40] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:59:40] akorphan | atz++ [09:59:40] maccabee | wait i get it, this is postmodern presentation. THIS IS THE PRESENTATION!!! [09:59:43] sdellis | it's in here somewhere [09:59:44] jdwyn | break 4play [09:59:46] bmljenny | Dude, at least play us some background music, [09:59:48] harvel | maccabee++ [09:59:50] dlovins | maccabee++ [09:59:50] decasm_ | wait ... are linux users more or less tech savvy? [09:59:53] ejk | Live stream is STILL stuck on a guy staring at his laptop... [09:59:54] atz | i smell baby [10:00:00] eefcee | maccabee++ [10:00:02] mbklein | I knew that @screw_with_gsf's_screen_resolution plugin I wrote last night would make for a good time. [10:00:02] dchud | ejk: we *all* look like that [10:00:02] sdellis | when in doubt, check google docs [10:00:02] rsinger | still, he looks cool, right? RIGHT? [10:00:04] tokeee | "This is not a presentation" [10:00:04] jtgorman | ubuntu's monitor settings can be goofy.... [10:00:06] yitznewton | so close, and yet [10:00:09] akorphan | ejk++ [10:00:21] akorphan | ejk [10:00:23] csharp | you can be tech-savvy and still suffer from projector hell [10:00:24] * jtgorman had to play a while to get his laptop to work with his tv [10:00:24] akorphan | ejk: unless you are serious... [10:00:26] escowles | is this an "untalk"? [10:00:26] bmljenny | Oh shit there's a baby [10:00:27] dlovins | maccabee: like John Cage 4'33 [10:00:29] ndushay | he puts the couch in couchdb [10:00:32] rsinger | @later tell gsf This is where your anarchy gets you. [10:00:32] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. [10:00:35] * jtgorman looks around for lbjay [10:00:37] freqlurker | *crickets* [10:00:39] timmcgeary | dlovins++ [10:00:39] * ejk raises hand [10:00:40] dchud | time to relax [10:00:40] knickum | HI! [10:00:41] escowles | hi! [10:00:42] ranti | Hi! [10:00:42] akorphan | This isn't just a NoSQL database, it seems to be a NoANYTHING database! [10:00:43] * dbs raises hand [10:00:43] pberry | hi! [10:00:43] * BillDueber failed to get it going at least twice [10:00:45] eefcee | Hi! [10:00:47] timmcgeary | Hi, Gabriel [10:00:47] yitznewton | @who puts the DB in CouchDB? [10:00:48] zoia | bess puts the DB in CouchDB. [10:00:55] ejk | CouchDB++ [10:01:00] BillDueber | drool-- [10:01:00] timmcgeary | loaned_baby++ [10:01:03] rsinger | @canuck How many have played with Apache CouchDB? [10:01:03] zoia | rsinger: How many have played with Apawchee CoachDB?, eh? [10:01:07] highermath | It seems to me that if his presentation is in GoogleDocs, he could have used the stock box [10:01:08] dchud | gsf_++ # sucks to go through what he just went through [10:01:08] eby | anarchivist: I should talk to you as well [10:01:16] anarchivist | @dunno add This is where your anarchy gets you. [10:01:16] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1125 added. [10:01:18] yitznewton | gsf_++ [10:01:18] eby | anarchivist: About data and shit [10:01:22] dchud | pictures_of_other_peoples_babies++ [10:01:23] lbjay | these technical issues remind me of https://twitter.com/#!/diveintomark/statuses/22458230869336064 [10:01:26] pberry | All presentations must have baby photos now, I'm not sure about this [10:01:39] escowles | gsf++ # i would have bailed [10:01:39] atz | pberry: baby_bacon [10:01:41] ---| ---> mbklein1 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:01:43] timmcgeary | @ana couch db [10:01:44] zoia | timmcgeary: Cod chub [10:01:50] druthb | pictures_of_babies++ [10:01:51] knickum | or dark blobs where disembodied baby heads would be [10:01:55] ---| <<-- mbklein1 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [10:01:55] ---| ---> mbklein1 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [10:01:55] yitznewton | @ana restful couch [10:01:55] anarchivist | eby: yeah sure thing [10:01:56] zoia | yitznewton: Useful crotch [10:01:58] highermath | bmljenny: there's a baby. Oh. Shit... [10:01:58] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Disconnected by services) [10:01:59] ---| <<-- bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:01:59] ---| <<-- sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:01:59] ---| <<-- KingNightWolf [8cb6fbc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.199] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:02:06] timmcgeary | zoia++ [10:02:10] ejk | Pink_Unknown_Box++ [10:02:11] ---| User: *** mbklein1 is now known as mbklein [10:02:24] lbjay | jaysawn [10:02:25] dbs | highermath: I assume he's got couchdb running on his laptop, just like I did during my live demo fail [10:02:25] knickum | zoia++ awkward! [10:02:25] zoia | knickum: dub tee eff? [10:02:26] ---| ---> grfischer [~fischer@156-56-58-99.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:02:27] ranti | OK. Whose baby I could borrow for my future presentations? [10:02:31] jtgorman | dlovins++ [10:02:34] pberry | Also, network is very solid today [10:02:36] rsinger | @decide jaysawn or jason [10:02:36] zoia | rsinger: go with jaysawn [10:02:36] pberry | Yay [10:02:46] erikhatcher | fear the demo [10:02:46] rsinger | huh, totally working against me today [10:03:07] MrDys | @decide jaysawn or jaron [10:03:07] zoia | MrDys: go with jaysawn [10:03:13] escowles | ranti: i've got a lightly-used 3yo you could borrow [10:03:14] ---| <<-- stevermiles [8cb6f842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.66] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:03:24] anarchivist | @ana lightly-used three year old [10:03:25] zoia | anarchivist: Trustily grey-headed hello [10:03:35] bohyunkim | @ranti use my dogs instead? don't kidnap babies plz [10:03:35] zoia | bohyunkim: All that karma and that's the best you can do??? I'm *so* disappointed in you -- your mother and I both are. [10:03:36] ranti | escowles: cool. Thx in advance. [10:03:44] erikhatcher | futon- LOL [10:04:03] jtgorman | how many couchdb presentations have there been at code4lib? [10:04:04] decasm_ | replicate? or sync? [10:04:04] akorphan | @cyborg CouchDB [10:04:05] MrDys | chaiseDB [10:04:06] zoia | akorphan: C.O.U.C.H.D.B.: Cybernetic Operational Unit Calibrated for Hazardous Destruction and Battle [10:04:15] MrDys | DaybedDB [10:04:19] ejk | Somebody need to create BONG to interface Couch with Blacklight [10:04:20] ranti | zoia++ [10:04:25] rsinger | @translationparty we have known knowns, unknown knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns. [10:04:27] bmljenny | DavenportDB [10:04:27] anarchivist | ejk++ [10:04:29] bohyunkim | zoia: huh? >.< must have missed sth [10:04:29] zoia | bohyunkim: what can i get you? http://bit.ly/bLdsrJ [10:04:30] MrDys | ejk++ [10:04:33] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [10:04:34] erikhatcher | ejk++ [10:04:35] akorphan | FlipNFoldDB [10:04:37] ranti | bohyunkim: your dogs might work too. :-) [10:04:45] zoia | rsinger: We are unknown knowns, unknown knowns are known to the unknown known known. [10:04:50] bmljenny | ChesterfieldDB [10:04:53] yitznewton | overused_couch_idiom-- [10:04:59] druthb | droning_voices_early_in_the_day-- # Show us some excitement! [10:04:59] bohyunkim | zoia: lolz [10:05:00] zoia | bohyunkim: I CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER? [10:05:01] timmcgeary | @ana flexible validation [10:05:01] zoia | timmcgeary: Laxative of blind lie [10:05:06] * ksclarke is curious about the format for the _changes feed [10:05:06] yitznewton | stream_fail-- [10:05:07] MrDys | DavenportDB [10:05:09] pberry | I can't help but link to http://teddziuba.com/2010/03/i-cant-wait-for-nosql-to-die.html [10:05:10] jillern | loveseatDB? [10:05:17] mbklein | edsu: I fear gsf is going to run into that "LEAD WITH YOUR DEMO" lesson. [10:05:23] pjb1 | papasanDB [10:05:32] decasm_ | pberry: i don't think any technology will ever die [10:05:35] ranti | pjb1++ [10:05:36] mbklein | edsu: Unless that was dchud who brought that up yesterday, in which case, never mind. :) [10:05:51] scolford | @decide suDOO or suDOH [10:05:51] zoia | scolford: go with suDOH [10:06:02] decasm_ | soD'OH [10:06:10] decasm_ | suD'OH [10:06:18] rsinger | mbklein: that's a dchud-ism :) [10:06:20] ---| <--- druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [10:06:34] ---| <<-- gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:06:45] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:06:47] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Later, tater...) [10:06:59] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:07:07] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [10:07:17] pjb1 | puppies++ [10:07:17] timmcgeary | Where's the beef? [10:07:20] ejk | puppy++ [10:07:30] MrDys | yay, mustache! [10:07:38] escowles | mustache? [10:07:43] mbklein | Why isn't it moustache? [10:07:44] anarchivist | require 'lib/neckbeard' [10:07:48] MrDys | http://mustache.github.com/ [10:07:50] timmcgeary | @ana lib mustache [10:07:50] zoia | timmcgeary: I am the clubs [10:07:53] MrDys | you'll hear more about that in my talk [10:07:54] rsinger | Must Ache [10:07:59] BillDueber | "Feeling hip, upper lip! Mustache!" [10:08:15] anarchivist | @ana whiskerando [10:08:15] zoia | anarchivist: Kind as whore [10:08:35] dchud | mbklein: huh? [10:08:43] dchud | oh nevermind. [10:08:44] atz | zoia-- [10:08:45] bmljenny | Models would be nice. Supermodels would be better [10:08:50] mbklein | dchud: OK. :) [10:09:00] pmurray | By the way, hopefully without jinxing it: today code4lib_network++ (thanks for the extra access points) [10:09:01] rsinger | bmljenny: libraries don't have the budget for that [10:09:02] decasm_ | ooh. mustache looks innerestin [10:09:03] lbjay | there is also http://requirejs.org/ [10:09:04] anarchivist | @sing rupaul : supermodel [10:09:05] ---| <<-- rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:09:05] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for supermodel by rupaul [10:09:10] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has quit (Client Quit) [10:09:11] anarchivist | @sing ru paul : supermodel [10:09:12] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for supermodel by ru paul [10:09:14] dchud | er, if anybody can answer "huh?" i'd still like to know. [10:09:18] atz | network has been solid so far [10:09:21] jtgorman | pmurray: really? It's flakier for me today [10:09:22] rsinger | @huh? [10:09:23] zoia | rsinger: i'm sorry phase_bb but your auuwt. auf wiedersehen. [10:09:24] mbklein | @sing jill sobule : supermodel [10:09:24] bmljenny | Work it! Sashay, chante! [10:09:25] bess | dchud: eh? [10:09:26] zoia | I don't care what my teachers say / I'm gonna be a supermodel. / Everyone is gonna dress like me, [10:09:30] anarchivist | dchud: what-ho! [10:09:36] ---| ---> KingNightWolf [8cb6fbc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.251.199] has joined #code4lib [10:09:36] dchud | bess: ho! [10:09:40] pmurray | jtgorman: Yeah, the network has been very solid for me today. [10:09:41] ---| ---> rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [10:09:42] dchud | anarchivist: jinx [10:09:48] ---| <<-- grfischer [~fischer@156-56-58-99.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: grfischer) [10:09:56] BillDueber | jill_sobule++ # love love love that album [10:10:08] mbklein | dchud: I wrote "edsu: I fear gsf is going to run into that "LEAD WITH YOUR DEMO" lesson." [10:10:09] pmurray | I'm on Code4Lib-N now, which was just awful yesterday [10:10:16] mbklein | dchud: Then I realized it should have been you, not ed. [10:10:37] dchud | mbklein: oh, right, i kept looking for what edsu said that you were responding to [10:10:41] freqlurker | 5 mins to bring this all home, gsf [10:10:44] * dchud needs caffeine [10:10:52] jaf | animal_pics++ [10:10:56] mbklein | BillDueber: Not a bad track on that album. [10:10:58] dlovins | neotony++ [10:11:02] ---| <<-- grk2me [~chatzilla@156-56-58-73.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1.10/20100622204830]) [10:11:05] alxp | LoC joke in the onion http://www.theonion.com/articles/library-of-congress-adds-3-titles-to-list-of-films,19106/ [10:11:07] anarchivist | @sing doobie brothers : what a fool believes [10:11:08] zoia | As he rises to her apology, / anybody else would surely know / he's watching her go. / But what a fool believes he sees, [10:11:13] ejk | @sing rupaul : Supermodel (You Better Work) [10:11:14] zoia | you better work ( cover girl )work it girl ( give a twirl )do your thing on the runwaywork ( supermodel... )you better work it, girl ( ...of the world )wet your lips and make love to the camerawork, turn to the leftwork, now turn to the rightwork, sashay shante it don’t matter what you wearthey’re checkin’ out your savior faireand it don’t matter what you docause everything looks good on you ...supermodelyou better (2 more messages) [10:11:22] pmurray | @twit --id 35352226151010304 [10:11:22] zoia | pmurray: Library Of Congress Adds 3 Titles To List Of Films That Should Be Destroyed Forever http://onion.com/eFBPAA [10:11:27] ---| <<-- highermath [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Quit: Blame eyjafjallajökull) [10:11:37] dchud | anarchivist: CHALLENGE! michael mcdonald soundalike competition if Ask Anything lulls too much [10:11:37] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [10:11:43] pmurray | Ack -- alxp beat me to it. [10:11:58] anarchivist | dchud: no, i'm afraid that has to happen in the hospitality suite [10:12:00] ---| ---> sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has joined #code4lib [10:12:05] MrDys | that's pretty cool [10:12:11] dchud | anarchivist: awww. [10:12:12] MrDys | @scalia special documents [10:12:12] zoia | MrDys: special 'documents' [10:12:13] * dbs has his mind blown - JavaScript apps inside a JSON store [10:12:14] jaron | this data model stuff + validations + display makes couch more interesting. I want to see the code [10:12:15] rsinger | o/~ I keep forgettin' we're not love anymore... baaaa-by o/~ [10:12:17] mbklein | pmurray: For future reference (and faster response), you can just paste the tweet URL anywhere in channel and zoia will find it. http://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/35352226151010304 [10:12:17] zoia | Library Of Congress Adds 3 Titles To List Of Films That Should Be Destroyed Forever http://onion.com/eFBPAA [10:12:18] atz | it's like JSON filtering JSON.... [10:12:19] anarchivist | design document? that sounds pretty enterprisey to me [10:12:34] anarchivist | dchud: you missed it last night [10:12:36] dchud | pmurray: that's awesome. [10:12:37] rsinger | wait, the michael mcdonald soundalike competition isn't happening? [10:12:40] pmurray | mbklein++ Cool. [10:12:43] anarchivist | rsinger: not during ask anything. [10:12:46] * rsinger would totally skype that shit in [10:12:48] bess | alxp++ [10:12:49] ejk | Yo dawg, I heard you like javascript [10:12:53] anarchivist | rsinger++ [10:12:55] * dchud would totally skype rsinger in [10:13:05] pmurray | dchud: The virtual lightning talk idea? [10:13:05] jstirnaman | @sing black flag : black coffee [10:13:07] zoia | Imagination turns thoughts, reason can't change / Staring at the walls, think I know what I see / Anger and coffee, feeling mean / Drinking black coffee, black coffee, drinking black coffee, staring at the wall [10:13:07] scolford | rsinger++ [10:13:21] mbklein | DEMO DEMO EMO DEMO [10:13:26] anarchivist | @sing black flag : tv party [10:13:26] mbklein | "emo demo"? [10:13:28] zoia | To our favorite shows! / I wouldn't be without me T.V. for a day / Or even for a minute! / Don't even bother to use my brain anymore [10:13:29] dbs | jstirnaman++ [10:13:29] MrDys | @hussein couchdb [10:13:29] zoia | MrDys: Chic bush undoes [10:13:35] rsinger | "white belt" [10:13:37] pmurray | dchud: ...or The Onion article? [10:13:48] freqlurker | @sing descendants : coffee mug [10:13:48] anarchivist | @ana solr white belt or solr black belt [10:13:49] zoia | freqlurker: No lyrics found for coffee mug by descendants [10:13:50] zoia | anarchivist: Blowback thriller to losers [10:13:53] duspal | You dawg, I heard you like Javascript functions, so I var fun = function(func); [10:13:54] scolford | I found some Lucene in the couch last time I vacuumed. Who stuck that there? [10:13:56] rsinger | 1 second [10:13:56] pberry | Web scale? [10:14:00] ---| <<-- mmmmmrob [~mmmmmrob@host81-139-64-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:14:05] jstirnaman | freqlurker++ [10:14:11] dchud | pmurray: the onion article :) [10:14:11] timmcgeary | Is scaling up sorta like marrying up? [10:14:19] anna3lc | i sense tension [10:14:19] bess | duspal++ :) [10:14:23] anarchivist | toys++ [10:14:26] pmurray | dchud: Yep. [10:14:29] anarchivist | @sing magas : toys [10:14:30] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for toys by magas [10:14:35] abarrera | timmcgeary++ [10:14:42] rsinger | maybe gsf didn't get the memo. No Toys. [10:14:48] csharp | android++ [10:14:48] atz | we should adopt the term "enterprish" [10:14:51] lbjay | my phone runs couchdb too! [10:15:02] rsinger | @later tell gsf No toys. [10:15:02] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. [10:15:08] bmljenny | Ok you have one minute left for your demo [10:15:10] pberry | Fish? [10:15:12] anarchivist | @ana zines tools fish [10:15:13] zoia | anarchivist: Foolish zest sin [10:15:14] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Baroquem) [10:15:17] timmcgeary | atz: I prefer enterprisiness [10:15:17] mbklein | I ran jetty+solr on my jailbroken iPad. It was AWESOME. Completely useless, of course, but whatchagonnado? [10:15:18] lbjay | i think he probably didn't mean to say "down side" [10:15:22] ndushay | baby_cheetah++ [10:15:25] jaf | gsf++ [10:15:31] csharp | gsf_++ [10:15:33] erikhatcher | grrawr [10:15:34] ---| ---> dileshni_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:15:37] scolford | gsf++ [10:15:39] * ejk claps [10:15:41] ---| ---> mmmmmrob [~mmmmmrob@host81-139-64-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #code4lib [10:15:41] atz | timmcgeary: sounds good [10:15:42] dlovins | gsf++ [10:15:42] timmcgeary | break++ [10:15:43] ecorrado | coffee!!!!!!!!!! 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Kind of an anti-honeypot [10:26:00] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:26:29] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Bye) [10:26:34] ejk | I do recall that DLR said if it wasn't met that they had free riegn to trash the place. =) [10:26:59] ejk | s/riegn/reign [10:27:06] ---| ---> timmcgeary [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:27:11] ---| ---> skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-kwvrzpvurlvsnckq] has joined #code4lib [10:27:13] ---| ---> mounts_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:27:24] ---| <<-- jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:27:46] anna3lc | beverage FAIL [10:27:59] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [10:28:10] ---| ---> podium [814f6f30@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.79.111.48] has joined #code4lib [10:28:14] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:28:18] jaf | anna3lc++ [10:28:20] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:28:29] ---| ---> joshbishoff [9c383b4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.76] has joined #code4lib [10:29:03] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:29:08] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:29:10] ---| ---> wickr [~wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [10:29:14] erikhatcher | bess: what good does it do to print biz cards for you? you keep changing titles! 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[10:36:24] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:36:28] helrond | don't get left behind in the code4lib rapture [10:36:34] anna3lc | dileshni: we do not speak of it [10:36:34] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:36:38] atz | dileshni: some ppl didn't have reservations for the shuttle [10:36:39] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:36:47] ---| ---> fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:36:49] BillDueber | Boo XML! Boo Metadata! [10:36:51] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [10:36:57] gsf | :) [10:36:58] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-229-247.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:36:58] timmcgeary | helrond: Left Behind: The Code4Lib Chronicles? [10:37:02] lbjay | that dude is smart [10:37:04] dileshni | anna3lc: alrighty [10:37:05] MrDys | funner++ [10:37:06] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:37:07] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:37:08] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Later, tater...) [10:37:09] BillDueber | flyingzumwalt++ [10:37:10] KingNightWolf | what is metadata ??? 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Flying stuff [10:37:51] timmcgeary | shout_outs++ [10:37:55] gsf | prezi+- [10:37:55] ---| <<-- Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Baroquem) [10:37:57] jtgorman | dileshni: apparently from what I heard the shuttle company booked more reservations/sold tickets than they had seats for [10:38:06] ndushay | MODS-- [10:38:07] timmcgeary | prezi++ [10:38:10] BillDueber | mods-- [10:38:13] ---| ---> dlovins_ [~dlovins@conference/code4lib/x-ukguuhklvpmzhkue] has joined #code4lib [10:38:13] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:38:13] jaron | mods-- [10:38:14] maccabee | ah 2010, a simpler time [10:38:19] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [10:38:20] zoia | i could have sworn i sniffed the mnotess before i put it in there [10:38:25] MrDys | so he went with prezi after all [10:38:27] dileshni | jtgorman: ah i see. Should make my reservation now then [10:38:27] lbjay | @rate modders modsers [10:38:28] ---| ---> jillern [981ea34d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.30.163.77] has joined #code4lib [10:38:29] charper | Love seeing all the mods decrementing... [10:38:30] zoia | lbjay: modders: 2.0; modsers: ?. modders sucks! [10:38:31] pjb1 | fonts++ [10:38:37] mbklein | I'm back! (speaking of "annoying and strange") [10:38:42] KingNightWolf | yea for prezi I'm glad people are using it [10:38:43] ---| ---> bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has joined #code4lib [10:38:56] timmcgeary | I wanted to go with Prezi, but was worried about technology fail [10:39:11] ---| ---> gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [10:39:13] BillDueber | timmcgeary: Me too. Flakey network scared me off [10:39:21] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:39:32] anarchivist | om++ [10:39:33] atz | i actually disagree with that... if you don't let the tech "dictate", then you aren't selecting the tech based on its purpose/usefulness [10:39:35] KingNightWolf | yes like sucky wirless yea we got that [10:39:37] timmcgeary | BillDueber: I would have downloaded it to run locally, but just worried the PC wouldn't like that [10:39:43] ---| Acknowledged: You're now known as xml [10:39:48] mbklein | I like Prezi a lot, but they need to make it easier to use (in create/edit mode) and much harder to bork your entire layout with a single errant click. [10:39:55] atz | use the right tool for the job. fitness to purpose. [10:39:56] anna3lc | what is good about prezi? [10:40:02] xml | this talk is fucking crazy [10:40:14] gsf | anna3lc: it has tons of snaz [10:40:20] mbklein | gsf++ [10:40:21] xml | @ana tons of snaz [10:40:22] zoia | xml: Oz fans snot [10:40:27] MrDys | @hussein tons of snaz [10:40:28] zoia | MrDys: Zones snoutish fans [10:40:30] ---| Acknowledged: You're now known as lbjay [10:40:34] ndushay | flyingzumwalt: has lots of snaz [10:40:36] decasm_ | snaz is good cuz it covers up a lack of content [10:40:38] timmcgeary | anna3lc: non-linear presentation [10:40:46] KingNightWolf | snaz and that's it !! [10:41:01] mbklein | anna3lc: When used correctly, it forces you to think of your presentation as a layered whole, rather than a sequential death march to the end. [10:41:06] atz | there's only 3 english words on there [10:41:06] anna3lc | snaz-- [10:41:08] anarchivist | libxml2++ [10:41:14] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has joined #code4lib [10:41:18] ---| ---> chumpanzee [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has joined #code4lib [10:41:19] gsf | wireless is better today yes? mcdonald++ [10:41:19] timmcgeary | mbklein++ [10:41:21] ---| ---> escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:41:22] ---| ---> rjw_ [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has joined #code4lib [10:41:26] * BillDueber has gotta plug the almost-release java_native nokogiri for jruby [10:41:31] ---| ---> julia__ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [10:41:35] pmurray | gsf: Agreed! [10:41:36] anna3lc | mbklein: interesting [10:41:45] timmcgeary | @ana om nokogiri xml [10:41:46] zoia | timmcgeary: Mix on grim look [10:41:49] mbklein | I'd say it goes beyond snaz and achieves schnazz. [10:41:49] KingNightWolf | yup the wirless is much better today [10:41:49] ---| ---> jlhardes [8cb6e509@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.9] has joined #code4lib [10:41:59] ---| <<-- bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:42:01] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:42:07] ejk | github++ [10:42:14] atz | github++ #again! [10:42:15] mbklein | anna3lc: I have what I think is a reasonably decent example if you want to take a look at it after. [10:42:17] KingNightWolf | I wonder if they changed anything from yesterday [10:42:22] timmcgeary | anna3lc: prezi has a free EDU license, too, which is greater than free public license [10:42:24] ---| <<-- julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:42:25] jtgorman | github++ [10:42:26] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:42:30] rickj | http://github.com/mediashelf/om [10:42:32] pmurray | KingNightWolf: Yeah, they added four access points along the wall beside us. [10:42:34] ---| ---> spencer_ [806797e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.103.151.229] has joined #code4lib [10:42:36] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:42:41] ---| ---> webczarina [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has joined #code4lib [10:42:51] dbs | gsf++ # way to hang in there [10:43:12] KingNightWolf | I see nice !! [10:43:12] gsf | dbs: thanks [10:43:30] akorphan | lightning talk slides: slided! [10:43:33] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:43:33] ---| User: *** rjw_ is now known as rjw [10:43:44] ndushay | i'm groaning b/c i am realizing i can think in Solr schema. ugh. [10:43:48] dbs | gsf: it's a *ubuntu + couchdb + thinkpad + code4lib curse I think [10:44:08] tbw | think in XML? [10:44:19] gsf | dbs: i really should have heeded your warnings [10:44:30] ---| ---> maruyama3 [~maruyama3@150.101.102.121.dy.bbexcite.jp] has joined #code4lib [10:44:37] ---| <<-- dlovins [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has quit () [10:44:48] mbklein | gsf: He does the best with you he can. [10:44:51] ---| ---> yegusa_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:44:58] gsf | i'm a terrible mentee [10:45:06] ---| <<-- fresco_ [6de7c1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.231.193.162] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:45:12] mbklein | @sing sting : shadows in the rain : best with [10:45:13] zoia | I woke up in my clothes again this morning / I don't know exactly where I am / And I should heed my doctor's warning / He does the best with me he can [10:45:28] ---| ---> fresco_ [6de7c1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.231.193.162] has joined #code4lib [10:45:32] decasm_ | gsf: whenever i intend to present w/ linux, i go early and figure out what i need to make it work in advance [10:45:38] atz | droning... [10:45:38] ---| <<-- maruyama3 [~maruyama3@150.101.102.121.dy.bbexcite.jp] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:45:40] ndushay | so is this another attempt at a lingua franca, except the lingua franca is mutable? [10:45:48] pmurray | bacon_shot++ [10:45:55] decasm_ | [10:46:08] mbklein | I thought bacon *was* the lingua franca [10:46:08] gsf | decasm_: yeah i came by this morning when mcdonald said i should but they were already too busy setting up [10:46:11] freqlurker | ndushay++ # big words [10:46:26] decasm_ | gsf: ah. tough. [10:46:26] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:46:27] ndushay | i guess i'd rather think in solr schema than in xpath. [10:46:35] ---| ---> ranti_ [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:46:40] ndushay | xpath can get pretty squirrel? [10:46:52] timmcgeary | @decide solr schema or xpath [10:46:52] zoia | timmcgeary: go with xpath [10:46:53] mbklein | lingua capicola [10:46:53] MrDys | @ana pretty squirrel [10:46:54] zoia | MrDys: Squirt try leper [10:46:58] timmcgeary | zoia-- [10:46:59] ndushay | s/squirrel/squirrelly/ [10:47:00] atz | basic xpath is really useful... the full spec is a bitch to implement though [10:47:01] jaron | if you need to maintain and update your xml as xml then this seems more reasonable. i don't want to maintain xml, but just serialize how i'm storing my data to whatever xml i need [10:47:15] mbklein | rdoc.info++ [10:47:18] anna3lc | knees [10:47:23] gsf | bacons with legs [10:47:26] freqlurker | nice knees [10:47:27] akorphan | ack, naked man legs. [10:47:31] decasm_ | jaron: skip xml completely, go with yaml [10:47:32] mbklein | socks [10:47:32] timmcgeary | black socks w/ shorts? [10:47:33] ndushay | wait - is om for the metadata itself, or for the metadata scheme? [10:47:36] escowles | weird_bacon_shot-- [10:47:39] duspal | hiked_up_socks_and_shorts-- [10:47:41] jrochkind | i don't entirely get it [10:47:42] atz | pasty [10:47:42] ---| ---> mbach [9c383b0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.11] has joined #code4lib [10:47:43] mbklein | timmcgeary: How do you know there are shorts? [10:47:43] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:47:45] jaron | decasm_: sometimes I need to export mods [10:47:45] akorphan | are those black socks or very tight boots? [10:47:46] ranti_ | bacon_and_socks-- [10:47:48] ---| User: *** yegusa_ is now known as yegusa [10:47:54] timmcgeary | mbklein: hence the ? [10:47:56] anna3lc | floppy_bacon-- [10:47:56] dileshni | very tight boots [10:47:56] atz | i don't entirely get the *motivation* [10:47:57] bmljenny | Bacon and nopants [10:48:01] ejk | naked_man_legs-- [10:48:03] cazzerson | leather socks? [10:48:05] mbklein | real_people-- [10:48:17] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:48:18] bess | ndushay: You can specify your metadata schema in OM, and then that allows you to interact with the XML by referring to your terminology, instead of by referring to lots of XPATH statements. [10:48:19] anarchivist | @sing pissed jeans : caught licking leather [10:48:21] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for caught licking leather by pissed jeans [10:48:21] timmcgeary | bacon_grease_splash-- [10:48:23] edsu | they think in terms of Bacon and Socks! [10:48:23] ndushay | mbklein++ [10:48:26] * mbklein dreams in XML [10:48:27] akorphan | creepy and bacon are never to be mixed! [10:48:29] jrochkind | bess++ [10:48:34] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:48:34] atz | what, my XML presentation layer isn't useful anymore? [10:48:36] ---| <<-- fontanka [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:48:36] ---| User: *** matts is now known as matts_away [10:48:37] decasm_ | nightmares in XML? [10:48:39] timmcgeary | @ana bacon socks [10:48:40] zoia | timmcgeary: Cabs conk so [10:48:42] pberry | mbklein: Those are nightmares [10:48:48] ranti_ | think_from_users_perspective++ [10:48:48] jrochkind | is OM a... ruby gem? Can I use it in my own non-Hydra code? [10:48:52] bmljenny | Cooking bacon and naked are never to be mixed [10:48:55] jaron | jrochkind: yes [10:48:59] jrochkind | sweet [10:49:01] escowles | @ana real people [10:49:02] bess | jrochkind: yes, it's a ruby gem and yes you can use it in non-hydra code [10:49:02] zoia | escowles: Pole a leper [10:49:05] dchud | fyi, w/r/t Diane's keynote - i've been exchanging email with LC folks doing RDA testing, they'd be glad for any feedback on the test records, such as they are. i'm happy to mediate if appropriate/desired. [10:49:06] timmcgeary | but are they well-formed XML nightmares? [10:49:15] mbklein | bmljenny++ PRACTICAL WISDOM [10:49:30] ---| <<-- jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:49:39] edsu | dchud: i would be curious how diane's "get over marc" relates to the rda/marc records up at loc.gov [10:49:51] ndushay | so this is a way to have user terms --> xml of your metadata scheme, but you need to write xpath to create the terms --> xml mapping. [10:49:57] dchud | edsu: is that something i can answer? [10:49:59] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:50:03] edsu | dchud: i doubt it :-) [10:50:04] bess | ndushay: yes, that's right [10:50:10] jrochkind | ndushay: you write the xpath ONCE and then your code can use the mappings. I think? [10:50:14] jaron | ndushay: om takes care of creating the xpaths kinda [10:50:16] ndushay | like i said, i just think in Solr schema. just put a "title" field in the Solr schema. [10:50:20] bess | ndushay: you do have to figure out the xpath the first time [10:50:27] ndushay | skip the whole data model. [10:50:34] ndushay | !@#$!@#$ the data model. [10:50:37] pmurray | I wonder what kind of computing overhead this adds... [10:50:42] ndushay | i hate data models. [10:50:43] cbeer | ndushay++ [10:50:46] dchud | edsu: i think i'm trying to say that there's a lot of room for people here (in channel, code4libbers, whatever) to propose new things here. [10:50:49] timmcgeary | wearing_too_many_hats-- [10:50:56] escowles | ndushay++ # f the data model [10:50:57] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has joined #code4lib [10:50:58] edsu | dchud: new things where? [10:51:07] anarchivist | @sing men without hats [10:51:08] zoia | I got a woman inside / Uh Huh / Oooh Yeah / I said, hey men. [10:51:10] ranti_ | ... [10:51:16] jrochkind | ndushay: That way of thinking doesn't work for me. Your Solr schema is optimized for filling the actual search use cases you have, it's not a general purpose data schema for your data that is effective anywhere outside of solr, neccesarily. A solr schema can have lots of duplication and de-normalization. [10:51:17] ---| ---> royt [~royt@132-174-183-6.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [10:51:18] eby | @whocares data model [10:51:20] zoia | eby: I can't find anyone who loves or hates data model. [10:51:24] bess | ndushay: alas, when you have a bunch of heterogeneous XML, "title" just isn't easily definable, especially across data types. It's REALLY nice to be able to have mappings for marc.title and ead.title and eems.title etc etc etc [10:51:27] ndushay | for DISCOVERY: right now, state of the art is: what is needed for search, for display, for faceting, for sort. [10:51:28] ---| User: *** ranti_ is now known as ranti [10:51:35] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [10:51:37] edsu | dchud: you love those big problems don't you :-) [10:51:40] dchud | edsu: in this situation. arguing doesn't help anybody. constructive work is welcome by all sides - let's get over arguing about MARC and do what we need next [10:51:46] atz | ok, now i'm getting it.... metadata format middle layer abstraction [10:51:52] ---| ---> asl2 [~asl2@adsl-76-217-59-102.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code4lib [10:51:55] bess | atz: excellent description! [10:51:55] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [10:51:55] dchud | edsu: no, i hate people yelling at each other without backing up their words with code/data/rules/etc. [10:51:56] zoia | can we talk about something else?is metadata like xml and stuff? [10:51:56] mbklein | ndushay: solr is flat. The title field is the title field. [10:51:57] ndushay | for MAINTENANCE: metadata is much more complex. [10:52:00] scolford | My hats: http://www.carlemuseum.org/images/uploads/EricCarleMuseum/shop/2267_MD.jpg [10:52:03] jrochkind | ndushay: i mean, if YOU are only working with Solr, then YOU can ignore the data model. But if the data lives anywhere outside of Solr (as it ought to if you care about persistence at all), then the developers dealing with that can't ignore the data model and just think in temrs of solr schema. [10:52:09] akorphan | Speaker's shirt is awfully... shiny. [10:52:14] ecorrado | @loves data models [10:52:14] zoia | ecorrado: (loves [] []) -- Find out what loves [10:52:15] ---| ---> abugsyes [48a40672@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.164.6.114] has joined #code4lib [10:52:29] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [10:52:36] mbklein | ecorrado: Use @love to declare; @loves to inquire [10:52:37] bohyunkim | akorphan: observation++ [10:52:42] timmcgeary | @shiny shirt [10:52:42] zoia | timmcgeary: nah that's in a different field, not sure which subfield though [10:52:43] ndushay | for SEARCHING BACKEND: you definitely make the discovery notion of "search" more complex. that's not user labels; it's "how do I serve the user search needs" [10:52:46] ejk | Hey, how'd he get a picture of our server room? [10:52:49] timmcgeary | @ana shiny shirt [10:52:50] zoia | timmcgeary: Shh! Tiny Sir [10:52:52] atz | bess: problem is that it isn't comprehensive... there are structures (not just "fields") that won't correspond between different metadata schemas [10:52:55] ecorrado | @love data models [10:52:56] gsf | akorphan: that's not shine, it's schnazz [10:52:57] zoia | ecorrado: The operation succeeded. ecorrado loves data models. [10:53:02] scolford | zoia++ [10:53:04] akorphan | gsf: I stand corrected. [10:53:05] jrochkind | ndushay: i also don't like doing display purely from Solr stored fields, for reasons of both performance and flexibility. [10:53:07] tbw | ok if it makes change easier maybe its worth the overhead [10:53:08] mbklein | gsf++ schnazz++ [10:53:08] timmcgeary | @love data models [10:53:09] ndushay | jrochkind: yeah, ok. I don't have to deal w that right now. [10:53:10] bess | atz: yup. good point. but this is better than what we had before. :) [10:53:10] zoia | timmcgeary: The operation succeeded. timmcgeary loves data models. [10:53:16] anna3lc | zoia++ tiny sir [10:53:16] zoia | anna3lc: i find that the best unicode strategy is decode early, curse often, encode late [10:53:17] edsu | dchud: yeah, i hear that [10:53:17] anarchivist | @hate yorkside [10:53:18] akorphan | @wholoves data models [10:53:19] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. anarchivist hates yorkside. [10:53:21] zoia | ecorrado and timmcgeary love data models [10:53:27] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: flyingzumwalt) [10:53:38] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:53:40] anarchivist | ruby++ [10:53:45] cbeer | i believe changing data models should be a painful experience. [10:53:47] akorphan | ORM++ [10:53:50] ndushay | jrochkind: we don't do display solely from Solr fields. We compute a lot of them from raw marc at display time. Sometimes display fields don't even need to be defined in Solr. [10:53:52] ecorrado | I especially love data models after having to migrate data out of something that wasn't modeled or even thought through [10:53:55] jrochkind | cbeer: then you're in luck cause it is. :) [10:53:57] akorphan | no_snacks-- [10:53:59] ndushay | but the data does need to go somewhere, i get that. [10:54:00] bess | cbeer++ # don't worry, it always will be. [10:54:01] escowles | jrochkind: we do display solely from solr stored fields *for performance reasons* [10:54:05] atz | ILS's already do this with MARC field mapping [10:54:12] jaron | that seems a good place to start "an ORM for XML" [10:54:18] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:54:21] ecorrado | coffee makes me happy [10:54:21] atz | but not to as much of a degree [10:54:26] anna3lc | i propose all talks begin with a problem statement and a brief preview of either the solution or idea [10:54:27] ndushay | atz: and ILS is a good model to emulate? or to leave as "good enough"? [10:54:43] ndushay | anna3lc++ [10:54:44] decasm_ | convention is a euphemism for herd mentality [10:54:45] atz | ndushay: no, this is bigger [10:54:45] bmljenny | Bacon and naked man legs make me happy. More of that please. [10:54:50] freqlurker | anna3lc++ [10:54:52] jrochkind | ndushay: yeah, totally, that's what I do too. So already you have to think in terms of more than just solr schema, since you are computing them from marc at display time. So the focus of OM, as I understand it, is making that 'computing from X at display time' more DRY, especially when you may have hetereogenous data, not all marc. [10:54:53] akorphan | "fascades"? [10:54:53] bess | anna3lc: ooh, good idea! Want to start a "how to give a good code4lib talk" page on the wiki? [10:54:56] timmcgeary | @ana herd mentality [10:54:57] zoia | timmcgeary: Threaten dimly [10:54:59] bess | anna3lc++ [10:55:00] anarchivist | @google fascade [10:55:01] zoia | anarchivist: A fascade: ; Fascade | Flickr - Photo Sharing!: ; YouTube - Fascade's Channel: ; File:American-radiator-fascade.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Fascade@137db | Balanced Records: (1 more message) [10:55:04] timmcgeary | zoia++ [10:55:06] gsf | anna3lc: i was going to do that but got distracted [10:55:11] bmljenny | anna3lc++ [10:55:12] anna3lc | bess that would be hilarious; i am awful at giving talks! [10:55:26] ---| <<-- julia__ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:55:30] bess | anna3lc: okay, so even more reason to think about what goes into a good talk, right? [10:55:33] decasm_ | xml_isnt_the_point++ [10:55:37] anna3lc | bess++ good point [10:55:44] ndushay | jrochkind: I think we agree. I would say om also is saying "use THIS metadata format - the one from om - b/c a lot of other stuff gets really complicated. We'll crosswalk when we have to." [10:55:47] anarchivist | metadata++ [10:55:59] * dbs notes that "OM" = "OLE" + 21 letters [10:56:00] jrochkind | ndushay: hmm, may be, yeah. [10:56:02] tokeee | XML cannot be the whole program [10:56:07] ndushay | starting_with_users++ [10:56:07] anna3lc | he means talk on irc, right? [10:56:08] akorphan | OLE! [10:56:13] ndushay | listening_to_users++ [10:56:16] anarchivist | @damlev OM OLE [10:56:16] zoia | anarchivist: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "OM" and "OLE" is 2. [10:56:17] timmcgeary | @ana actually talk [10:56:17] zoia | timmcgeary: A lucky, tall at [10:56:22] ndushay | users_meaning_END_users++ [10:56:23] edsu | why do users care about metadata at all? [10:56:39] akorphan | Sigh, the Anglo name pattern rears its head again. [10:56:41] jrochkind | ndushay: although OM itself doesn't insist on any particular metadata format, it's just a mapper from the arbitrary (XML-based) metadata format of your choice, to data elements in code. [10:56:56] anarchivist | edsu: http://dieinafire.com/ [10:56:56] dbs | anarchivist: 21 letter increment, using base-26? [10:57:04] tbw | what does this buy you other than mapping a fieldname to some xpath? [10:57:04] ndushay | "first" and "last" name are not applicable to some languages [10:57:11] edsu | anarchivist: are those your glasses? [10:57:13] ndushay | so what do we do then? [10:57:22] atz | tbw: not much, afaict [10:57:23] rsinger | edsu: i think that's a reasonable question [10:57:25] jrochkind | edsu: users only care about metadata because of what metadata can do for users, whether or not users realize there's such a thing as 'metadata'. [10:57:27] anarchivist | ndushay: don't use separate nameParts? :) [10:57:29] jrochkind | tbw: i think that's all it buys you? [10:57:31] ranti | edsu: end users don't care about metadata. They care about the content and how it's presented. [10:57:36] rsinger | what jrock said [10:57:40] rsinger | and ranti [10:57:49] akorphan | anarchivist: Then there's a sort problem. [10:57:50] edsu | when the end users are librarians, they care [10:57:54] gsf | use an internal format that can ingest and output a variety of formats [10:57:54] scolford | edsu: in many cases now the metadata and the object are the same. (sez weinberger) [10:57:55] jrochkind | 'content and how it's presented' often is 'metadata'. [10:57:56] mbklein | apologize_for_going_over_then_keep_going++ [10:58:00] bess | tbw: that's what it buys you! If you're comfy working with xml and you only have one kind of xml, you probably don't need it. If you work with lots of different kinds of xml and you want a consistent way to refer to the bits of it that you need in your application, it's very useful. [10:58:07] timmcgeary | @loves dinner [10:58:10] zoia | timmcgeary: dinner doesn't seem to love anything. [10:58:10] anarchivist | bess++ [10:58:10] jrochkind | the end user doens't have to KNOW it's "metadata", but we developers need to, to make our software work. [10:58:12] * jstroop wonders, why, if it's possible to put an accurate layer of abstraction over your different metadata formats, you're using different metadata formats in the first place. Am I missing something? [10:58:30] * erikhatcher claps [10:58:38] edsu | but when the end users are people using a library they care about what ranti said [10:58:38] mbklein | yo_bj's_hat++ [10:58:39] tbw | I guess I'd rather have a yaml file or some config file to do the mapping than write code [10:58:40] jrochkind | jstroop: 'accurate' is context-specific? The abstraction may be appropriate for your given application, but not appropriate in all contexts? Maybe. [10:58:41] akorphan | Who's MCing? [10:58:41] ksclarke | jstroop++ [10:58:46] ranti | edsu: we shouldn't think we build stuff for librarians. IMHO. [10:58:47] MrDys | akorphan: yo_bj [10:58:50] ---| ---> fowbar [8e679df5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.103.157.245] has joined #code4lib [10:58:56] mbklein | akorphan: Becky Yoose, aka yo_bj [10:59:01] edsu | ranti: i agree [10:59:03] jrochkind | ranti: except when we are building tools for librarians. :) Which is part of our jobs too. [10:59:06] akorphan | That's a nice hat. i don't think I could pull it off. [10:59:08] rsinger | jstroop: is there a format that describes everything in every context? [10:59:12] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:59:18] yo_bj | Thanks, akorphan [10:59:24] bess | jstroop: b/c, for example, you're being asked to build a repository for data sets from many different departments. Astronomy data is going to have completely different metadata format from biology, but you need to know for both of them, what's "title?" what's "author?" [10:59:30] ---| User: *** matts_away is now known as matts [10:59:33] akorphan | yo_bj: I was admiring it at breakfast. [10:59:34] zoia | i think there is a xslt crosswalk for that [10:59:36] ---| <<-- petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:59:36] MrDys | http://www.extensiblecatalog.org/learnmore [10:59:40] * ecorrado really wishes he had a gong [10:59:43] akorphan | or thereabouts [10:59:52] jrochkind | zoia++ [10:59:52] jstroop | rsinger: no, but that's kind of the point--why try to make different things look the same? [11:00:04] * mbklein is still working toward his own 1.0 release. [11:00:05] ---| ---> stevemeyer [~stephenme@156-56-59-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:00:06] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:00:10] ndushay | bess: so you have diff om stuff for astronomy and biology? or shared? [11:00:18] mbklein | Parts of me are still at 0.2-alpha [11:00:24] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:00:29] ndushay | b/c lingua franca ALWAYS get unweildy [11:00:30] jaron | jstroop: for indexing to solr. both things need to have, say, a title [11:00:33] jrochkind | jstroop: because that's often what we DO in our applications, ake different things look the same. We need to provide search over hetereogenous data. It all needs to show up in the same search results. It doesn't all need to look identical, but it all needs to fit into the application sarch results. [11:00:33] rsinger | jstroop: because it shouldn't be necessary to store everything n+1 times [11:00:35] bmljenny | Parts of me are version 45.0 [11:00:38] fowbar | flyingzumwalt: where's the dinner tonight? [11:00:41] flyingzumwalt | is the channel logged anywhere? I didn't have it open during my talk [11:00:45] bess | ndushay: you have an om mapping for each one. B/c astronomy's notion of a title is going to be quite different (and have a totally different xpath) from biology's notion [11:00:58] ---| <<-- matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) [11:01:01] ndushay | i totally get that Solr schema vs. HTML vs. Fedora benefits from a single home for driving xml terms [11:01:04] jstroop | ok, get the point of having a layer of abstraction for getting things out [11:01:05] scolford | mbklein: Well, parts of me were deprecated in 2001. [11:01:09] flyingzumwalt | I think we're going to the Irish Lion? awead knows the details [11:01:10] ndushay | bess: cools. [11:01:12] timmcgeary | @ana sucks into mst [11:01:12] jaron | flyingzumwalt: I can send you scrollback [11:01:13] zoia | timmcgeary: Scum to stinks [11:01:23] edsu | flyingzumwalt: my main question was why "end users" should care about metadata at all [11:01:29] jrochkind | i think i'm going to need something like the xc MST one of these days. i think there was a talk yesterday about a similar tool too? [11:01:29] ---| ---> matts [~matts@unaffiliated/matts] has joined #code4lib [11:01:29] bess | fowbar: Irish Lion [11:01:34] zoia | Metadata, metadata, metadata! What about MARC? [11:01:37] ranti | jrochkind: troo dat :-) [11:01:41] anarchivist | edsu: it depends on what you consider an "end user" [11:01:43] jrochkind | edsu: end users do not need to care about metadata. WE need to care about metadata to meet end user needs. [11:01:45] timmcgeary | my library website doesn't look like that [11:01:54] akorphan | If anyone out there does "plain old" cataloging and wants a fun challenge, do an original cataloging for "More Information than You Require" by John Hodgman [11:01:56] awead | fowbar: ths plan is to converge on the Irish Lion. We would sit at different tables, or one big one [11:02:07] awead | s/ths/the [11:02:08] flyingzumwalt | edsu: in most cases, they don't care about it _as metadata_ [11:02:11] ndushay | from marc bib record to FRBR: "and some magic happens here" [11:02:17] edsu | jrochkind: yeah, i agree ; maybe i read into end users, actual end users ; not librarians [11:02:18] flyingzumwalt | edsu: it's more about how we interpret their needs [11:02:24] akorphan | (this depends on your definition of fun...) [11:02:37] ---| ---> petercline1 [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:02:40] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@156-56-58-53.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:02:40] ndushay | flyingzumwalt: good talk - needed more specific examples. [11:02:45] BigD | Is there diet coke anywhere? [11:02:50] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [11:02:54] edsu | flyingzumwalt++ # it was good [11:03:00] bess | flyingzumwalt++ :) [11:03:06] flyingzumwalt | ndushay: sorry about that. I had lots of examples but ran out of time. [11:03:10] bmljenny | BigD: Good morning sunshine! [11:03:17] akorphan | Man, we sure do a lot of metadata transforms in our profession. [11:03:18] flyingzumwalt | uploading the slides now [11:03:18] ---| ---> maruyama3 [~maruyama3@150.101.102.121.dy.bbexcite.jp] has joined #code4lib [11:03:20] anarchivist | flyingzumwalt++ [11:03:25] jrochkind | yeah, the XC MST is totally trying to serve a purpose that I need served and have no tools to serve. [11:03:26] mbklein | flyingzumwalt++ [11:03:28] escowles | BigD: in the commons [11:03:34] decasm_ | akorphan: yes. yes we do. [11:03:34] atz | marc normalization... could be useful [11:03:39] ndushay | "death to metadata! long live metadata!" [11:03:40] dbs | edsu: the title of a search hit in google is metadata right? real users use that [11:03:41] awead | flyingzumwalt++ #OM is cool [11:03:43] anarchivist | BigD: how you feelin' big boy [11:03:45] mbklein | @ana xc metadata services toolkit [11:03:49] zoia | Metadata, metadata, metadata! What about MARC? [11:03:56] ---| ---> _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:04:00] zoia | Can you shut the hell up for one minute about the metadata? [11:04:01] zoia | mbklein: Toxic smart aleck to sedative [11:04:04] edsu | dbs: yeah, but they don't think of it as metadata, they think of it as stuff they can do [11:04:06] ndushay | i believe marc normalization is impossible. have you ever talked to the institutional memory for marc person at your institution? [11:04:12] BigD | bmljenny escowles thanks! [11:04:20] akorphan | That server already looks outdated... [11:04:23] BigD | anarchivist: Slow [11:04:24] yo_bj | you're tearing me apart metadata [11:04:30] BigD | anarchivist: You? [11:04:36] demiankatz | tearing_things_apart++ [11:04:37] dbs | edsu: okay, I wasn't taking your usage of "cares" literally. fair enough [11:04:39] demiankatz | lisa-- [11:04:40] mbklein | yo_bj++ # Oh hi, Mark. [11:04:41] MrDys | oh, hi MARC [11:04:44] anarchivist | BigD: i had coffee and advil, feeling much better [11:04:51] rsinger | in other news, i think i managed to figure out how zebra works, which obviously means i've gone totally insane [11:04:54] flyingzumwalt | OM slides: http://yourmediashelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/OM-Brining-Sanity-to-the-World-of-XML-Metadata.pdf [11:04:55] anarchivist | BigD: tummy still feeling kind of gross [11:04:56] yo_bj | lisa-- [11:05:04] jrochkind | ndushay: depends on hwat you mean by 'normalization'. Maybe some ultimate solution is impossible, but we're all doing different kinds of 'normalization' in our code, already. [11:05:14] ndushay | s/snail/banana slug/ [11:05:15] atz | rsinger++ # yeeah [11:05:17] fowbar | anarchivist: it was the mussels last night [11:05:20] anarchivist | rsinger++ [11:05:21] mbklein | yo_bj: Taken last night, in this very building: http://i.imgur.com/prmgfl.jpg [11:05:26] ndushay | jrochkind: yes, us too. good point. [11:05:27] anarchivist | fowbar: i didn't eat any mussels. :) [11:05:40] royt | wow, this is fascinating [11:05:42] flyingzumwalt | I had planned to put up the irc channel and have people guess at xpath queries, but no time [11:05:45] BigD | anarchivist: ... Never mind... ;) [11:05:49] ndushay | mbklein: michael jackson lives? [11:05:56] fowbar | something about mussels in Indiana [11:05:57] MrDys | come on, make those backgrounds transparent [11:06:02] jrochkind | yep, that wasn't a good idea. [11:06:06] mbklein | MrDys++ [11:06:13] MrDys | gahhh [11:06:13] BillDueber | Hmmm. Not exactly solr's sweet spot [11:06:22] mbklein | IT WAS…THE SALMON MOUSSE [11:06:24] yo_bj | mbklein -> http://twitpic.com/3xyn6r [11:06:30] edsu | solr_just_for_indexing++ [11:06:32] jrochkind | yeah, i'm not sure I see why Solr should be involved in teh MST _at all_. [11:06:42] mbklein | yo_bj++ you're my favorite customer! [11:06:46] anarchivist | yo_bj++ [11:06:50] fowbar | I'm new to Ruby - what ORM to use? sequel, datamapper? ?./? [11:06:54] anarchivist | hi doggy [11:07:05] pjb1 | you can get some good mussels in indy [11:07:05] rsinger | fowbar: what are you trying to use it in? [11:07:07] ---| <<-- skome [~skome@pool-173-60-92-25.lsanca.ftas.verizon.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:07:09] jaron | fowbar: using rails? [11:07:14] rsinger | fowbar: i mean, rails? [11:07:19] jrochkind | using an rdbms? [11:07:23] rsinger | JRuby? [11:07:31] MrDys | jah-ruby [11:07:33] ndushay | so the talk is saying "split giant database into obvious pieces" ? [11:07:42] ---| ---> AndIrc_ [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:07:49] decasm_ | xpath is a bad technology [11:07:52] edsu | no, it's bad [11:07:56] edsu | :-) [11:07:57] ndushay | and "xpath can be inefficient in real time"? [11:07:58] rsinger | haha [11:08:01] eby | @who is normalizing the data [11:08:02] zoia | archivist is normalizing the data. [11:08:02] jrochkind | i like xpath [11:08:10] anarchivist | @who is making the donuts [11:08:10] zoia | eikeon is making the donuts. [11:08:12] ndushay | i guess he's talking about how they whacked on their bottlenecks [11:08:16] atz | what was that code lanugage? [11:08:25] ndushay | but we all want to know how he did profiling and knew where to whack. [11:08:27] BigD | I need a donut [11:08:29] rsinger | xpath seems fine to me [11:08:30] fowbar | jaron: don't know yet - connecting to oracle [11:08:32] MrDys | I like xpath syntax, but holy shit can it get slow [11:08:34] atz | ndushay: exactly [11:08:38] akorphan | How many different languages do we have for accessing nested elements and array-like objects in a data structure? [11:08:41] jstroop | jrochkind: me too [11:08:42] MrDys | xpath syntax in jquery is fantastic [11:08:49] anna3lc | has anyone checked out the square donuts place? [11:08:57] atz | akorphan: every language [11:08:57] ksclarke | xpath++ [11:08:58] ndushay | "update index and db in batches" [11:09:01] ---| <<-- _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:09:06] jaron | fowbar: for oracle I don't know what you should use [11:09:17] ndushay | "prepared statements are faster than non-prepared statements" [11:09:19] royt | this dude is fucking brilliant [11:09:21] rsinger | fowbar: any ORM should do that (since it would be the db driver itself that matters) [11:09:22] akorphan | atz: I guess I'm really thinking of query languages. It's not really a well-defined question, I know. [11:09:23] BillDueber | Is that groovy maybe? [11:09:23] anarchivist | anna3lc: square donuts?!?! [11:09:27] ndushay | SHOW ME THE PROFILING!!!! [11:09:33] MrDys | royt is getting saucy [11:09:35] ---| <<-- tomkeays [~chatzilla@cpe-67-249-120-52.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203074432]) [11:09:36] ndushay | how did you know what to poke at? [11:09:41] mbklein | anna3lc: please elaborate [11:09:43] rsinger | fowbar: but what you actually want to do with the ORM matters [11:09:45] ndushay | hi royt [11:09:45] escowles | ndushay: iff you use them more than once [11:09:51] anarchivist | @sing simon and garfunkel : feelin' groovy (59th street bridge song) [11:09:51] akorphan | anarchivist: The place is called square donuts or something; not sure if the donuts are on the square or if the place is located on a square. [11:09:52] decasm_ | BillDueber: straight java i think [11:09:53] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for feelin' groovy (59th street bridge song) by simon and garfunkel [11:09:53] royt | ndushay: hey [11:09:55] jrochkind | fowbar: if you are in rails and using an rdbms, just use ActiveRecord, like god intended. [11:10:01] akorphan | s/donuts are on the square/donuts are square [11:10:03] awead | zoia-- [11:10:06] mbklein | akorphan: OR BOTH [11:10:07] ---| <--- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has left #code4lib () [11:10:07] ndushay | escowles: yes, given. [11:10:12] rsinger | fowbar: but if you're leaning towards anything other than Rails, use datamapper [11:10:12] jaron | jrochkind++ [11:10:14] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [11:10:15] akorphan | mbklein: ACK [11:10:19] anarchivist | pkiraly++ [11:10:26] akorphan | my head asplode! [11:10:31] anna3lc | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#Recommended_Restaurants.2FBars_.28no_particular_order.29 [11:10:35] highermath_aw | I thought that prepared statements were what you get when the senator is caught in flagrante delicto [11:10:41] anarchivist | anna3lc: i'd be down for it [11:10:43] anna3lc | anarchivist, mbklein ^ [11:10:44] ---| ---> mcdonald [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:10:49] ecorrado | flat_files++ [11:10:49] mbklein | akorphan++ # I will always increment a strong bad reference [11:10:51] jaron | fowbar: I'll echo what rsinger and jrochkind say. for rails: activerecord. otherwise consider datamapper [11:10:53] BillDueber | datamapper++ [11:10:59] anarchivist | anna3lc: http://squaredonuts.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-home.cgi?d=square-donuts [11:11:05] ndushay | "I figured was " == profiling evaluates to sometimes_true [11:11:07] rsinger | datamapper is just so awesome on so many levels [11:11:07] knickum | i didn't know there was a way to get anything but prepared statements from senators... [11:11:13] BigD | Some amazing beers last night! #c4l11 http://twitpic.com/3y0zw5 [11:11:14] anarchivist | "donuts that are square and fresh and you eat them zomg" [11:11:23] ---| ---> jalt [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has joined #code4lib [11:11:30] mbklein | anarchivist++ nice [11:11:32] anna3lc | anarchivist: a compelling review [11:11:34] anarchivist | @sing monster x : battle fatigue [11:11:35] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for battle fatigue by monster x [11:11:40] MrDys | BigD: error [11:11:40] BillDueber | He should put it all into a pipe and avoid the write [11:11:42] escowles | ndushay: i found some code making 20 prepared stmts and using 5 of them... [11:11:47] MrDys | there we go [11:11:49] dchud | domfactorybuilderdoaservicefactoryfactoryimple++ [11:11:50] eby | jrochkind: Meant to mention we do have a place for anyone to upload images related to ann arbor which well then archive and display but it is currently displayed in shitacular gallery which we're working on replacing [11:11:53] decasm_ | DomBlahBlahBlahFactoryBlahBlahBlah [11:11:55] ndushay | escowles: how did you figure that out? [11:11:59] AndIrc_ | crud can't connect to network on my laptop [11:12:00] akorphan | anarchivist: wow, that's some website [11:12:00] jrochkind | eby: sweet [11:12:02] ndushay | decasm++ [11:12:07] anarchivist | @sing c + c music factory [11:12:08] zoia | anarchivist: No songs found by c + c music factory [11:12:16] rsinger | @hate java [11:12:16] anarchivist | @sing c & c music factory [11:12:17] zoia | rsinger: But rsinger already hates java! [11:12:17] atz | gaaaah [11:12:18] zoia | anarchivist: No songs found by c & c music factory [11:12:23] rsinger | zoia: but i want to hate it more [11:12:24] MrDys | @sing ce ce peniston [11:12:25] zoia | rsinger: http://poopoopanda.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/poster63512997.jpg [11:12:26] zoia | MrDys: No songs found by ce ce peniston [11:12:32] jaron | factory for creating a factory! [11:12:34] anarchivist | @sing cathy dennis [11:12:35] zoia | They don't know. / If I could change the way of the world / I'd be your girl / Too many walls have been built in between us [11:12:36] ---| <<-- mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:12:39] eby | @Hussein poo poo panda [11:12:40] zoia | eby: Up as a poison-pen hood [11:12:42] ---| User: *** AndIrc_ is now known as jtgorp [11:12:44] ndushay | flying spaghetti monster? [11:12:45] jrochkind | this is a good presentation [11:12:51] akorphan | mmm... blue worms... [11:12:54] jaron | yuck [11:12:56] anarchivist | @who has great gimp skills? [11:12:56] zoia | ecorrado has great gimp skills. [11:12:57] jrochkind | i don't want blue worms in my spaghetti. i'm never going to that restaurant again [11:12:58] highermath_aw | blue spagetti++ [11:12:58] royt | blue worms --- yuck [11:12:59] ---| <<-- jalt [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has quit (Client Quit) [11:13:04] edsu | @band add Spaghetti Code and the Blue Worms [11:13:05] zoia | edsu: Band 'Spaghetti Code and the Blue Worms' added to list [11:13:05] ---| ---> willkurt [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [11:13:09] ndushay | ok, now I have about 5 ideas for how to speed up code. [11:13:10] mbklein | @dunno add ERROR: ClassNotFoundException: org.code4lib.whatyousaid.StatementThatMakesSenseFactoryImpl [11:13:10] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1126 added. [11:13:11] BillDueber | royt: Not nearly as tasty as normal brown ones [11:13:11] ndushay | kewl. [11:13:16] anna3lc | bad website implies all skills lie in donut-making area? [11:13:18] ecorrado | gimp++ [11:13:25] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [11:13:31] knickum | a factory that makes factories to make little models of factories! i've reached java-nirvana! [11:13:32] royt | BillDueber-- # that's just WRONG buddy [11:13:32] mbklein | anna3lc++ [11:13:45] royt | knickum++ [11:13:46] erikhatcher | ant++ [11:13:49] MrDys | MetafactoryFactory [11:13:53] escowles | ndushay: ivory coast spammers harvesting email addr from our site exhausted our db pool, so i was digging around in 5yo ccode trying to figure out why each req was creating tons of db connections (1 con per prepared stmt) [11:13:55] anarchivist | @sing ant banks [11:13:56] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for Packin' A Gat by ant banks [11:14:05] dbs | There's ants in my spaghetti [11:14:09] jrochkind | did he just say 'cloud'? [11:14:12] BillDueber | WHy can't I do that without pretending it's a test? [11:14:16] erikhatcher | mst3k [11:14:17] jrochkind | and if so, why? [11:14:17] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has joined #code4lib [11:14:18] akorphan | there's ants in my blue worms. [11:14:24] dchud | fwiw the network has seemed very stable this morning [11:14:25] MrDys | @translationparty [sing elo : don't bring me down] [11:14:33] knickum | dbs: you got spaghetti in my ants [11:14:34] anna3lc | there's spaghetti in my antworms [11:14:35] fowbar | rsinger++ & jrochkind++ & jaron++ [11:14:39] anarchivist | dchud: yeah, it's because i'm not using skype :P [11:14:41] ndushay | escowles: did you do seat of the pants analysis or profile? [11:14:43] tbw | I thought OOP required ravioli code not spagetti code [11:14:47] jtgorp | we had to do something similar with dumping to a flatfile for bulk loads os a db insert [11:14:51] akorphan | I prefer pappardelle code [11:14:53] dchud | anarchivist: clearly it was your fault. [11:14:55] zoia | MrDys: ELO is a word that I was disappointed concessions [11:15:02] anarchivist | dchud: it usually is...at least at first :) [11:15:04] akorphan | s/it's/its [11:15:08] jrochkind | gnocchi code [11:15:15] knickum | mmmm [11:15:16] eby | @sing Tom waits : the piano has been drinking [11:15:18] zoia | eby: No lyrics found for the piano has been drinking by Tom waits [11:15:19] timmcgeary | after the winter we've had, I could definitely use some spring [11:15:20] jtgorp | overhead of db connections can be expensive vs on machine load [11:15:25] BigD | I need spaghetti [11:15:27] akorphan | zoia-- [11:15:31] dchud | eby: the timekeeper has been drinking, not me [11:15:32] jaf | jrochkind: you say potato.... [11:15:36] bmljenny | Vermicelli code = worms [11:15:36] knickum | @sing Daft Punk [11:15:37] akorphan | Speaking of spaghetti, what's on the lunch menu today? [11:15:40] zoia | (Instrumental) / From Lyrics Mania [11:15:43] anarchivist | akorphan: taco meat [11:15:48] fowbar | gnocchi-giri code [11:15:49] akorphan | knickum++ [11:15:54] ndushay | blue taco meat [11:15:54] MrDys | TacoMeatFactoryFactory [11:15:57] knickum | lol zoia++ [11:16:01] bmljenny | Fowbar++ [11:16:06] ---| ---> tcat [9c383a3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.59] has joined #code4lib [11:16:07] anarchivist | TacoFactoryFactoryFactory [11:16:15] ndushay | anarchivist++ [11:16:19] jrochkind | that was a good presentation [11:16:20] mbklein | akorphan: I hope it has at least as much spill-on-my-shirt-and-stain danger as yesterday's lunch. [11:16:21] ecorrado | dchud++ [11:16:24] MrDys | do it up dchud [11:16:26] escowles | ndushay: seat of the pants mostly -- there were only two or three pages being pounded, so i just read them and followed the calls down until i saw a ton of prepared stmts [11:16:27] ---| ---> tracyjo [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has joined #code4lib [11:16:28] freqlurker | hey - we're on tv! [11:16:29] akorphan | mbklein++ [11:16:31] pmurray | Look at me, look at me. [11:16:38] eby | dchud: The cleaning crew would prob doubt that [11:16:39] BigD | Hi mom! [11:16:39] flyingzumwalt | good morning dchud [11:16:39] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@wlan-nat.fwgal01.deri.ie] has joined #code4lib [11:16:39] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@wlan-nat.fwgal01.deri.ie] has quit (Changing host) [11:16:39] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [11:16:41] paulalbert | nice sweater [11:16:41] royt | dchud!!! [11:16:42] asnagy | good morning! [11:16:43] gluejar | hi, dchud! [11:16:44] akorphan | Whew, that was scary. [11:16:47] dchud | hi! [11:16:49] * erikhatcher claps [11:16:50] akorphan | i could see myself on the big screen. [11:16:52] ndushay | everyone get perky!!!! [11:16:53] anna3lc | ben_anderson++ [11:16:55] akorphan | haphazard++ [11:16:55] royt | sweet [11:16:56] jrochkind | this is the part of the day where we shock the channel by displaying it live on the overhead [11:16:56] maccabee | performance optimization actually makes a great narrative [11:16:58] timmcgeary | ass anything? [11:17:03] atz | akorphan: it adds 10 pounds. [11:17:03] escowles | hi mom! [11:17:03] mbklein | CHUD! CHUD! CHUD! CHUD! CHUD! CHUD! CHUD! CHUD! [11:17:04] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:17:05] jaf | dchud's going to put the chatroom on? Yes! [11:17:06] ---| ---> bemsha [9c383aeb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.235] has joined #code4lib [11:17:07] anarchivist | @dance [11:17:07] zoia | o/ [11:17:07] ecorrado | ask anything!!!! [11:17:08] zoia | /| [11:17:09] flyingzumwalt | podium: w00t. [11:17:10] zoia | >> [11:17:10] akorphan | HI MOM [11:17:11] jbrinley | oh, am I in Bloomington, now? [11:17:13] ---| ---> gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:17:13] ecorrado | dchud++ [11:17:13] maruyama3 | dchud ++ [11:17:14] anarchivist | @dance [11:17:14] mbklein | FONT UP [11:17:14] zoia | o/ [11:17:15] zoia | /| [11:17:15] ---| ---> abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:17:16] royt | beard++ [11:17:17] zoia | >> [11:17:18] jbrinley | hi, everyone [11:17:19] ndushay | FOOD++ [11:17:19] jaf | spicy meatballs? [11:17:20] akorphan | It's hilarious to see the lag in real time. [11:17:20] lbjay | what's for lunch? [11:17:25] * timmcgeary waves at the camera [11:17:27] ranti | dchud++ [11:17:29] akorphan | HELLO JAPAN [11:17:29] rsinger | lunch... TOMORROW [11:17:29] decasm_ | inappropriate comment! [11:17:30] ejk | Glad to see he's got his preacher collar on [11:17:32] zacho | I'm on TV [11:17:32] ecorrado | japan++ [11:17:37] ndushay | bigger font dchud! [11:17:40] ecorrado | canada++ [11:17:44] ---| ---> hkm [9c383a68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.104] has joined #code4lib [11:17:47] jillern | hello from NC [11:17:50] anna3lc | HI INTERNET [11:17:51] ndushay | BIGGER FONT! BIGGER FONT! [11:17:53] jaf | BIGGER FONT DCHUD [11:17:54] csharp | hello from GA [11:17:54] timmcgeary | "hot mic, hot mic" [11:17:55] ---| <<-- spencer_ [806797e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.103.151.229] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:17:59] erikhatcher | hello japan! [11:17:59] MrDys | @sing beastie boys : pass the mic [11:17:59] * eby waits for a @mf [11:18:00] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [11:18:01] zoia | What's Running Through My Mind Comes Through In My Walk True / Feelings Are Shown From The Way That I Talk And This Is Me, Y'All- / I M.C., Y'All My Name Is M.C.A. And I Still Do What I Please And / Now I'd Like To Introduce I'll Pass The Mic To D. For A Fist Full Of Truth [11:18:01] lbjay | dchud: FONT UP [11:18:02] decasm_ | font-size: xx-large; [11:18:02] akorphan | STEP UP TO THE MIC AND BUST A RHYME [11:18:04] ---| ---> bkeese [8cb694a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.164] has joined #code4lib [11:18:04] erikhatcher | konichiwa! [11:18:05] mbklein | @zalgo2 ZALGO IS ON SCREEN! [11:18:05] zoia | mbklein: Z҉̶͝AL͏̸GO I҉S ̴̸̕Ǫ͢͡N҉̧ S͘CR̴ÈE̸N͏͟!͟ [11:18:06] ---| ---> ASmith [8cb6e4e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.228.227] has joined #code4lib [11:18:07] fowbar | hello from VANCOUVER [11:18:09] jtgorman | thank god, connected again [11:18:10] ejk | Hot hot hot [11:18:14] edsu | w00t! [11:18:16] rsinger | ironic that mr. FONT UP is being told to FONT UP [11:18:17] BigD | And me. Sorry. [11:18:17] druthb | silliest++ [11:18:18] freqlurker | be the Microphone Commander you always dreamed [11:18:19] jillern | countless++ [11:18:19] bkeese | Hi Mom [11:18:21] jbrinley | dchud: bigger font, please, I can't see it from 100 miles away [11:18:22] ---| <<-- jtgorp [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: -a-) [11:18:23] akorphan | bigger font plz [11:18:24] ---| ---> spencer_ [806797e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.103.151.229] has joined #code4lib [11:18:26] dbs | IRC is only good for sarcastic comments dchud! [11:18:26] anarchivist | @zalgo2 [sing baha men : who let the dog] [11:18:28] zoia | anarchivist: N̷o͏͜ lyrí͝c͜͞s̛͏́ ̴f͏͟o͝und ̡̕f̴or w̵͡h̡̛ò̴ ̕͡l͡é͘t ͘th҉̶e̡͢ ̧̀͜d҉ó̶g by ͟b̸͢a̸͝h͏a̸͢͢ ̀҉͡me̢̛͝n [11:18:31] timmcgeary | dchud++ [11:18:33] KingNightWolf | hi dad [11:18:37] anarchivist | @zalgo2 [sing baha men : who let the dogs out] [11:18:39] zoia | anarchivist: Int̕͝r̛͜͠o:̀͜ ̷̡͟/͘ ̵Ẃh́͠͞o҉͏̡ ͡l҉èt ̷̕t̷́́h́͞e͏͢ ͡do͡g̷͜s̷̡͞ ͟͞͡out͡͏ /͟҉̵ ͡{w̛o̶o͏f͡͏͏,̶͜͠ ̴wo̶o̷͠f,̧͝ w̡̛o͠o҉f҉͘,̡ ̶̶woof̷͝}̶ [11:18:42] jbrinley | @quote random [11:18:42] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #474: "< eby> any geneticists in here" (added by edsu at 01:55 PM, October 17, 2006) [11:18:43] akorphan | TOOBIG [11:18:44] lbjay | ahhhh [11:18:45] csharp | windows-- [11:18:49] abarrera | thats what she said [11:18:49] ndushay | THANK YOU [11:18:49] maccabee | intuitive_resizing++ [11:18:52] dbs | twitter-- [11:18:53] flyingzumwalt | @sing r.e.m : What's the Frequency, Kenneth? [11:18:54] zoia | (Berry/Buck/Mills/Stipe) / "What's the frequency, Kenneth?" is your Benzedrine, uh-huh / I was brain-dead, locked out, numb, not up to speed [11:18:55] rsinger | FONT DOWN NOW [11:18:56] anarchivist | @dance [11:18:56] zoia | o/ [11:18:57] zoia | /| [11:18:58] mbklein | Dan is AWESOME [11:18:58] dbs | font-- [11:18:59] zoia | >> [11:19:03] ranti | dchud: cats or dogs? [11:19:06] ---| ---> grfischer [~fischer@156-56-58-99.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:19:09] ---| ---> kayiwa [~kayiwa@156-56-58-110.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:19:09] lbjay | @poledance [11:19:09] zoia | | [11:19:10] escowles | metaphysical questions? [11:19:10] zoia | o/| [11:19:11] zoia | /| | [11:19:12] zoia | >>| [11:19:12] eby | @pony [11:19:12] timmcgeary | flyingzumwalt++ [11:19:14] zoia | | [11:19:15] anna3lc | ranti++ [11:19:15] jaron | everyone can be famous in #code4lib for 2 seconds [11:19:15] zoia | ,//) [11:19:16] * ecorrado liked the old font better [11:19:16] zoia | ,;;' \ [11:19:16] dlovins_ | Screen scroll not auto-updating :-( [11:19:17] mbklein | uh oh. scroll stuck. [11:19:18] zoia | ,;;' ( '\ [11:19:19] zoia | / '\_) [11:19:20] zoia | ^^ not yours [11:19:23] BigD | <---- the Chud [11:19:24] lbjay | he lost the scroll [11:19:27] jaf | ranti: false diachtomy :) [11:19:29] pjb1 | 42 [11:19:29] ---| <<-- chuck [8cb6e73e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.231.62] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:19:31] mbklein | BlahML++ [11:19:31] akorphan | dchud, scroll down! [11:19:34] MrDys | @cyborg BLAH [11:19:35] zoia | MrDys: B.L.A.H.: Biomechanical Logical Assassination Humanoid [11:19:36] ---| ---> guest___ [8cb6e534@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.52] has joined #code4lib [11:19:37] lbjay | I CAN'T FOCUS ON ANYTHING ELSE [11:19:39] timmcgeary | @ana scroll down [11:19:40] zoia | timmcgeary: Lord! Clowns [11:19:46] freqlurker | we get the idea, Dan [11:19:48] ndushay | get a room, people. [11:20:01] mbklein | So wait…we can ask questions? Is that right? [11:20:03] erikhatcher | surely there's a Blah standard [11:20:03] ---| ---> tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has joined #code4lib [11:20:04] KingNightWolf | clown fest !! [11:20:05] pberry | Question: Im about to start working with ContentDM, what land mines are there to avoid? [11:20:07] pmurray | WHAT'S FOR LUNCH? [11:20:08] mbklein | And people might answer them? [11:20:09] atz | it's not *that* kind of hospitality [11:20:12] timmcgeary | mbklein: that was your question [11:20:34] bmljenny | Me: coy in chartreuse, you: resplendent in red. Drinks? [11:20:36] mbklein | timmcgeary: Dammit! I did that last year too! [11:20:41] freqlurker | pberry: avoid contentdm altogether [11:20:43] ---| ---> mingus [9c383b54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.84] has joined #code4lib [11:20:44] mbklein | bmljenny++ [11:20:51] jbrinley | pberry: I'm going to have to agree with freqlurker here [11:21:00] jillern | on with it! [11:21:00] grfischer | what's his twitter id? [11:21:01] akorphan | giveaways++ [11:21:03] mbklein | "Me: Cursing DSpace. You: Swearing at CONTENTdm." [11:21:05] dan64 | pberry: I'll 2'nd what jb said [11:21:07] bmljenny | Clap [11:21:07] anarchivist | rsinger++ [11:21:09] BillDueber | rsinger++ [11:21:10] jbrinley | pberry: there is just a giant spreadsheet on the back-end [11:21:12] timmcgeary | rsinger++ [11:21:13] akorphan | dchud scroll down again [11:21:14] csharp | rsinger++ [11:21:15] rsinger | hi! [11:21:15] edsu | rsinger++ [11:21:22] ejk | Emacs or VI??? [11:21:23] eby | Time for a jrochkind accordion solo [11:21:23] timmcgeary | no_questions-- [11:21:24] mbklein | rsinger-- [11:21:29] mbklein | (I'm contrary) [11:21:29] dlovins_ | sticky_scroll-- [11:21:30] rsinger | i only do it via ASCII text [11:21:31] jbrinley | pberry: really, not hierarchy or relationships or anything, just a big spreadsheet [11:21:31] jrochkind | didn't bring my accordion [11:21:34] timmcgeary | ejk: VI [11:21:35] anna3lc | we've been mesmerized by giant IRC and forgot all questions [11:21:35] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:21:48] jillern | does online count? [11:21:58] ---| ---> acdha [~acdha@140.147.162.99] has joined #code4lib [11:21:59] ---| <<-- bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:22:02] jtgorman | has there been 6 times? [11:22:02] akorphan | Oh, so that's what Esme looks like. [11:22:04] jrochkind | yes [11:22:07] jbrinley | pberry: and you can only have 128000 characters in a document [11:22:07] csharp | first time virtually, second time if virtually counts [11:22:09] timmcgeary | @ana magical search box [11:22:10] zoia | timmcgeary: Hag climaxes cobra [11:22:11] ndushay | rhetorical. [11:22:12] jrochkind | to make the magical search box work. magic ain't magic. [11:22:16] ejk | feedback-- [11:22:16] mbklein | @ana TEN MILLION METADATA FORMATS [11:22:17] zoia | mbklein: Immortal defamation talents [11:22:17] ---| ---> birkin [~birkin@156-56-58-127.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:22:19] mjg_ | royt: NO [11:22:19] dbs | job security! [11:22:21] ecorrado | my metadata toy is better then yours! [11:22:22] edsu | we need the search box to hide all the formats :-) [11:22:24] jbrinley | pberry: it ignores anything after that in full-text search [11:22:30] mtomko | Havard Library Labs, no? [11:22:35] mtomko | or maybe they're not sharing? [11:22:35] * BillDueber want's that [11:22:35] MrDys | make out yo face [11:22:37] erikhatcher | magic search box++ [11:22:37] jrochkind | i'm interested in USING it if you create it. I am not interested in creating it. [11:22:42] BigD | Isn't that oclc? [11:22:45] akorphan | pberry: I think the answer to your question is "ContentDM" [11:22:47] anna3lc | jrochkind++ [11:22:58] edsu | dchud: :-D [11:22:59] royt | BigD: well, it could be ;-) [11:23:02] escowles | jrochkind: why not just a big pile of text? [11:23:05] pyott | See LibraryCloud: http://librarylab.law.harvard.edu/librarycloud_wiki/index.php/Main_Page [11:23:07] eby | akorphan: And now you have two problems [11:23:08] ---| <<-- grfischer [~fischer@156-56-58-99.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:23:10] mbklein | oauth-- [11:23:11] davidWalker | don't apply for grants? [11:23:12] anarchivist | @ana repositoria con melon [11:23:13] zoia | anarchivist: Poetical, senior moron [11:23:14] bmljenny | Crickets [11:23:17] ndushay | escowles: a big pile of what? [11:23:20] pberry | OAuth is full of pain [11:23:20] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:23:21] escowles | *crickets* [11:23:22] jrochkind | escowles: because in my experience we can make the magic search box work better the better metadata we have. [11:23:23] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:23:24] ndushay | no++ [11:23:25] tzhaya | DC implementation it is Kataoka-san and Kyusyu Univ. team's big result. We update our trial each XC toolkit system now. [11:23:27] decasm_ | what's droopal [11:23:27] timmcgeary | "anybody, anybody?" [11:23:28] anna3lc | What is that sound? [11:23:29] ejk | Missed the question [11:23:32] anarchivist | BUFFERING [11:23:34] anarchivist | BUFFERING [11:23:35] ndushay | "gong" [11:23:36] ---| ---> jazz_ [9c383b63@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.99] has joined #code4lib [11:23:37] jaron | escowles: boosting of more important data? [11:23:37] zacho | Bueler? [11:23:40] ---| ---> joy [9c383a71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.113] has joined #code4lib [11:23:49] jrochkind | escowles: google starts with a giant pile of text, and analyzes metadata out of it. Because they have to, because giant pile of text is all they have to start with. Which is one approach. [11:23:52] akorphan | did someone mention snacks??? [11:23:53] jaron | escowles: for effecting relevancy? [11:23:54] dlovins_ | snac++ [11:23:57] duspal | My Concrete5 Twitter mods work. Just saying [11:23:59] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [11:23:59] mjg_ | @zalgo --intensity 5 SHOW ME ON THE BIG SCREEN [11:24:00] zoia | S̙ͦͦ͏͚͔̬ͦͦͦͦ̀ͦH͓ͦͦ̃ͦO̝ͦͦW͎ͦ́ͦͦͨͦ ̗ͦͪͦͦ́ͦ͗ͦͪͦM̡ͦ͌ͦ́ͦͦE̡ͦ͂ͦͧͦͫͦ̅ͦͦ ͦ͒ͦO͈̲ͦͦͦͪͦ̌ͦ͐ͦN̻ͦ̂ͦͦ͑ͦͮͦ ͙̭ͦͦͦ͏ͦ̆ͦ҉ͦTͦ̉ͦͦͦ̀ͦH̻͔ͦ̄ͦͦͦͦͦE̗̫ͦͦ̌ͦͦ ͦͦ̐ͦ͠B̧̧̲̟ͦͦ̀ͦ̌ͦͦͦͦI̭ͦͦ̒ͦ҈̵ͦͦ̌ͦG̯̗ͦͦͦͦ̚ (1 more message) [11:24:05] timmcgeary | Did someone bring a vuvuzela? [11:24:08] ---| <<-- kayiwa [~kayiwa@156-56-58-110.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: kayiwa) [11:24:09] demiankatz | concrete5++ [11:24:12] jrochkind | escowles: but even google is working with HTML, which has it's own metadata inherent in it. Like a tag. [11:24:22] ndushay | timmcgeary++ [11:24:23] zoia | And don't get me started about metadata! [11:24:24] ---| ---> libzig [~libzig@192.146.192.106] has joined #code4lib [11:24:25] bmljenny | timmcgeary: I think there's an app for that [11:24:33] escowles | ndushay: text -- one big field of natural language or whatever anybody wants to put in [11:24:35] akorphan | hiring++ [11:24:35] ---| <<-- acdha [~acdha@140.147.162.99] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:24:37] MrDys | that_idea++ [11:24:39] mjg_ | the mic has been rocked [11:24:39] akorphan | c4ljobboard++ [11:24:42] timmcgeary | bmljenny++ [11:24:42] pmurray | hiring++ [11:24:43] ndushay | escowles: it was a JOKE [11:24:44] davidWalker | jobs++ [11:24:44] jaron | code4lib_job_board++ [11:24:45] timmcgeary | job_board++ [11:24:48] jillern | cool to see all the folks [11:24:51] ---| ---> gmontane [~chatzilla@2001:18e8:2:32:a14f:7ec4:ee1c:bdd2] has joined #code4lib [11:24:51] jtgorman | oooohhh....tricky [11:24:51] jtgorman | privacy/anon issues there [11:24:52] dchud | go font up yourself [11:24:53] jrochkind | escowles: and be sure they make use of that, they don't strip all html tags out and ignore them before feeding to their indexers! Even google uses what metadata is available to them, like html tags. Or like back-links -- back-links are metadata too. [11:24:53] jtgorman | gahhh! [11:25:00] edsu | lol [11:25:01] ejk | ouch [11:25:03] pberry | Uh [11:25:03] mtomko | wow. [11:25:05] mjg_ | @zalgo2 WTF [11:25:06] zoia | mjg_: WT̸̢͜F̢͝ [11:25:07] timmcgeary | @ana thermal receipt printer [11:25:07] awead1 | RUN AWAY! [11:25:07] anarchivist | ghostscript++ [11:25:07] zoia | timmcgeary: Ethnic, premier prattler [11:25:09] rsinger | "And now, ladies and gentlemen, allow me to introduce THE DOOBIE BROTHERS!" [11:25:09] jaf | i talk to ghost people [11:25:09] pberry | World of hurt [11:25:11] ndushay | no++ [11:25:12] maxxkrakoa | the what in the what now? [11:25:12] jtgorman | connection issues again [11:25:12] akorphan | re: that question: ACK [11:25:13] mtomko | some assembly required. [11:25:18] BigD | $10k [11:25:18] edsu | and i thought code4lib was a niche! [11:25:19] pjb1 | i see dead printers [11:25:20] KingNightWolf | I see dead people [11:25:20] ndushay | crickets++ [11:25:21] decasm_ | i see dead technology. [11:25:22] mbklein | WRONG CHANNEL. Please post that question in #ghostscript_talking_to_thermal_receipt_printer [11:25:23] tokeee | specific_questions++ [11:25:31] ndushay | mbklein++ [11:25:31] rsinger | mbklein++ [11:25:32] csharp | mbklein++ [11:25:33] knickum | oh i love that channel [11:25:34] akorphan | I'm having trouble getting my makerbot to interface with my whiteboard... [11:25:43] ndushay | mbklein++ [11:25:45] anna3lc | mbklein++ lol [11:25:46] fowbar | yay hoppla [11:25:46] ndushay | crickets++ [11:25:48] edsu | http://www.ifs.tuwien.ac.at/dp/hoppla/ [11:25:49] erikhatcher | ghostscript++ # i remember tinkering with that back in the day [11:25:51] timmcgeary | same bat question, same bat channel [11:26:04] akorphan | bat_channel++ [11:26:07] pberry | What twitter account do we send questions to. [11:26:08] ---| <--- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:26:11] royt | love the way that us remote folks can participate in the "ask anything" session [11:26:18] timmcgeary | data_cleanup-- [11:26:18] anna3lc | we have a committee for that [11:26:23] ndushay | except for you, royt [11:26:29] anarchivist | BillDueber++ [11:26:32] BigD | Isn't that oclc? ;) [11:26:34] edsu | CUFTS! [11:26:35] mbklein | royt: For certain values of 'participate' [11:26:42] bmljenny | http://www.ifs.tuwien.ac.at/dp/hoppla/ cute bunny [11:26:44] timmcgeary | BigD++ [11:26:50] mbklein | BigD++ [11:26:51] fowbar | every cataloger has their own definition of "crappy metadata" [11:26:55] mbklein | dchud++ [11:26:57] pberry | Heh [11:26:58] jaf | dchud++ [11:27:02] mjg_ | dchud++ # sharp as always [11:27:05] jrochkind | wait, i thought that was OCLC's job, sharing cleaning up of metadata? Isn't that what OCLC is _for_? [11:27:05] timmcgeary | dchud++ [11:27:08] edsu | http://researcher.sfu.ca/openkb [11:27:14] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:27:15] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:27:15] mjg_ | BillDueber++ [11:27:16] timmcgeary | sharing_data++ [11:27:18] tshearerlib | dchudd: how about LOC's resources? [11:27:19] maruyama3 | Only code4lib? ... Code4museum, code4archives, and code4LMA(MLA) [11:27:20] lbjay | BillDueber++ [11:27:21] mbklein | BillDueber: Your hate makes you strong, young one. [11:27:26] ndushay | is there an external_world? [11:27:27] royt | we do A LOT of metadata cleanup [11:27:29] ecorrado | jrochkind++ [11:27:31] ---| <<-- jazz_ [9c383b63@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.99] has quit (Client Quit) [11:27:37] ndushay | external_world++ [11:27:44] timmcgeary | @ana serial prediction [11:27:45] zoia | timmcgeary: Spindlier erotica [11:27:46] ndushay | can anyone hear the answers? [11:27:53] erikhatcher | vendors+- # LOL [11:27:56] jaron | i can't hear the answers [11:27:56] abarrera | dchud++ # he'd be awesome as a quiz show host [11:27:57] ---| ---> bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [11:28:01] mbklein | A lot of metadata needs the same kind of cleanup that robcaSSon did last year in the hospitality suite. [11:28:03] mjg_ | maruyama3: we get some archives folks here, but dunno about the others. good question [11:28:03] ---| ---> tingletech [8cb6f9c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.249.200] has joined #code4lib [11:28:06] erikhatcher | dchud++ [11:28:10] BigD | dchud is doing a good job of recapping [11:28:16] jrochkind | that would be tom burton-west. [11:28:18] MrDys | dirty, dirty OCR [11:28:18] bmljenny | Dirty dirty OCR [11:28:19] timmcgeary | @ana dirty ocr [11:28:19] ---| ---> hong [9c383ac8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.200] has joined #code4lib [11:28:20] zoia | timmcgeary: Tidy Corr [11:28:22] BillDueber | dchud++ [11:28:23] BigD | Dirty OCR was my name in high school [11:28:24] jrochkind | oh, he was asking the question. heh. [11:28:24] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:25] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:28:25] decasm_ | dirty ocr is dirty [11:28:27] mjg_ | @sing ac/dc : dirty OCR [11:28:28] zoia | mjg_: No lyrics found for dirty OCR by ac/dc [11:28:28] bmljenny | MrDys: Jinx [11:28:29] edsu | I HAVE THAT QUESTION TOO! [11:28:29] ndushay | censored OCR? [11:28:35] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:28:37] ndushay | redacted OCR? [11:28:38] atz | there is MFHT for serials data, but in my experience that wasn't enough for what ppl wanted [11:28:40] jrochkind | dirty south ocr [11:28:41] ---| ---> chuck [8cb6e73e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.231.62] has joined #code4lib [11:28:41] mjg_ | dirty OCR done dirt expensive. [11:28:44] edsu | what about tom at hathitrust? [11:28:50] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [11:28:57] akorphan | crappy vendor data solution: use sampling to calculate how much of the vendor data is crappy. Demand a refund from vendor equal to that percentage of data. [11:28:59] ndushay | edsu: ha ha ha [11:28:59] kirkhess | Anyone working on designing applications for text analysis of data in fedora/Hathi Trust/Google Books? [11:28:59] mbklein | Amazon Mechanical Turk [11:29:01] harvel | DP++ [11:29:04] ejk | Mechanical Turk? [11:29:07] akorphan | Use that money to hire a student to fix broken data. [11:29:08] anna3lc | edsu: is it not tom asking the question? [11:29:09] mtomko | Mechanical Turk is hard to work well. [11:29:10] mjg_ | mturk++ [11:29:15] dchud | MOAR QUESTIONS PLEASE [11:29:15] edsu | hahaha [11:29:16] timmcgeary | how about hiring an OCR monkey? [11:29:17] mtomko | Unless there's a good way to objectively verify a correct answer. [11:29:18] edsu | i didn't know that :-) [11:29:23] MrDys | mturk what what [11:29:28] mbklein | mtomko++ True dat [11:29:32] mjg_ | rsinger: git ready [11:29:35] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:29:38] ---| <<-- yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:29:39] mtomko | We tried to use it when I was at Amazon. [11:29:40] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:29:41] erikhatcher | um.... openlibrary?! [11:29:44] atz | who was it that asked the serials interoperability question? [11:29:48] davidWalker | pberry++ [11:29:51] rsinger | he's not even signed into skype [11:29:52] edsu | 6ft under platform [11:29:53] mtomko | My service used to use MTurk to get people to verify whether two items were the same. [11:29:59] rsinger | pssh [11:30:01] sekjal | atz: tararobertson [11:30:03] akorphan | pberry: document cases and paper! [11:30:04] ---| <<-- jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:30:10] sekjal | atz: she's on twitter [11:30:11] atz | sekjal: thx [11:30:14] ndushay | yeah, right [11:30:30] anna3lc | new people! [11:30:30] timmcgeary | fabulousness++ [11:30:32] mbklein | fabulousness++ [11:30:32] ndushay | our fabulous_ness? [11:30:33] mjg_ | code4lib4dummies++ [11:30:34] akorphan | that_idea++ [11:30:37] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:30:39] timmcgeary | @ana fabulousness [11:30:39] decasm_ | memes4lib [11:30:40] jrochkind | there are no things everybody knows about. we all know about different things. [11:30:40] zoia | timmcgeary: Useful as snob [11:30:42] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:30:47] escowles | code4libCamp? [11:30:47] edsu | i thought code4lib was already for dummies [11:30:49] druthb | fabulousness++ [11:30:50] ecorrado | code4lib for dummies is a good idea, but we are all dummies! [11:30:51] rsinger | didn't we do that last year? [11:30:51] mtomko | we ended up replacing mturk with a purely software solution... [11:30:51] jrochkind | there is way too much for any of us, let alone all of us, to know about all of em. [11:30:53] timmcgeary | zoia++ [11:30:53] royt | BACON [11:30:53] jillern | a faq? [11:30:54] helrond | jrochkind ++ [11:30:54] eby | Staff proofread here and working on game/points for public for OCR [11:30:55] lbjay | that's not a bad idea [11:30:59] csharp | summer_camp++ [11:31:01] sdellis | i like that [11:31:04] ndushay | go for it, newbie dude! it's a good idea. [11:31:07] ejk | Beer4Dummies [11:31:14] flyingzumwalt | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed [11:31:21] zoia | I thought code4lib For Dummies was called LITA [11:31:22] decasm_ | who is code4lib's secretary? [11:31:23] ndushay | wiki of desired compentencies [11:31:25] ecorrado | Beer4Dummies++ [11:31:26] jrochkind | flyingzumwalt++ [11:31:27] erikhatcher | code4lib4dummies++ [11:31:28] akorphan | zoia: BURN. [11:31:28] mjg_ | zoia++ [11:31:28] decasm_ | @who is code4lib's secretary? [11:31:29] zoia | akorphan: there's an emacs macro for that. M-x something-or-other [11:31:30] zoia | royt is code4lib's secretary. [11:31:33] awead | zoia++ [11:31:34] ndushay | then coerce people into doing the pre-conf. [11:31:35] pjb1 | zoia++ [11:31:41] abarrera | zoia++ [11:31:44] * BillDueber will do it next year. Build a VM with a bunch of software and make sure everyone can get it before hand and just bang through the main ideas of stuff. [11:31:46] timmcgeary | zoia++ ouch [11:31:46] zoia | timmcgeary: ██████ █████ to this ███████ if you are still experiencing issues after following these directions. [11:31:52] ejk | zoia++ [11:32:04] bmljenny | I need to pre-pre [11:32:06] mjg_ | BillDueber++ [11:32:09] pberry | Wind sprints? [11:32:09] pyott | check out Galaxy Zoo - they do community-sourced analysis of hubble images -- might be a good model for public OCR cleanup [11:32:09] KingNightWolf | a pre pre conference and a post post conference [11:32:11] ndushay | flyingzumwalt++ [11:32:20] timmcgeary | pre-post-conference? [11:32:21] * edsu raises hand [11:32:21] ndushay | blacklight spring! [11:32:21] libzig | if ya don't already know: http://www.pgdp.net/c/ [11:32:27] BigD | Damn zoia... Some of my best friends go to LITA [11:32:28] ndushay | s/spring/sprint/ [11:32:30] anna3lc | on the list or on the conference list? [11:32:41] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [11:32:46] akorphan | gregjansen++ [11:32:49] royt | anarchivist! [11:32:53] mbklein | zoia! [11:32:53] zoia | mbklein! [11:32:56] BillDueber | Community-sourcing the bad OCR is a tough run, in that there are more than 8M volumes in 300 languages. [11:33:01] akorphan | FIND ANARCHIVIST. LOOK FOR THE GLASSES. [11:33:03] mjg_ | @zalgo2 dchud ftw [11:33:03] zoia | mjg_: d̡c͘h̕͟͡ų́͘d̨͜͝ ̡́͜f̸̛tw [11:33:05] gregjansen | anarchivist++ [11:33:06] mbklein | @redact [last --from BillDueber] [11:33:06] zoia | mbklein: Community-sourcing the bad OCR is a tough run, in that there are ████ than ██ volumes in 300 languages. [11:33:35] mbklein | bpl++ [11:33:43] mjg_ | outsiders++ [11:33:47] pyott | long live BPL [11:33:55] rsinger | dat scolford? [11:33:57] ranti | neighborhood_focus_library++ [11:33:58] MrDys | a cruft of developers [11:34:01] timmcgeary | awarded a pack of developers? [11:34:03] druthb | if you're here, even virtually, you're not outsiders. They left a while ago. [11:34:04] jaf | did he say the code4lib project? [11:34:06] mjg_ | naw, not scolford [11:34:09] rsinger | oh [11:34:10] timmcgeary | sign me up for that grant [11:34:12] akorphan | BPL is REALLY neighborhood focused -- you can't work there if you live outside of boston proper, if I recall correctly. [11:34:14] ---| ---> penneArrabiata [~rcobine@140-182-149-105.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:34:14] bohyunkim | zoia: so not true :)) re LITA [11:34:15] zoia | bohyunkim: can you please~nl~express that~nl~in z-m-l~nl~kthx [11:34:18] * rsinger can't see [11:34:18] bmljenny | Code4lib rags on LITA, LITA rags on reference librarians, ref linns rag on IT. Can't we all just get along? [11:34:19] pberry | A pride of developed [11:34:20] BillDueber | Don't worry. Kill the alpha coder and the rest of the pack will break away. [11:34:21] mbklein | Yes, that's scolford [11:34:23] mjg_ | oh, yes, it is scolford. [11:34:23] ejk | Think of the children [11:34:25] jrochkind | BillDueber: the 300 languages thing is what makes me have no idea. If you knew what language it was in I can brainstorm some ideas. [11:34:26] rsinger | heh [11:34:26] mjg_ | I was looking at the wrong head. [11:34:30] edsu | rsinger: can you do a michaelmcdonald lightning talk? [11:34:30] anarchivist | scolford++ [11:34:33] mjg_ and it wasn't lbjay's babyhead [11:34:33] decasm_ | bmljenny: probably not [11:34:36] anna3lc | BillDueber++ [11:34:38] pberry | A gaggle of programmers [11:34:39] MrDys | metadata: do it for the kids [11:34:40] mjg_ | @takify babyhead [11:34:41] zoia | ℬ Ǎ Ḅ Ý Ḫ Ḛ Ẵ ↁ [11:34:45] anarchivist @ana lbjay's babyhead [11:34:45] zoia | anarchivist: Ably shabby jade [11:34:52] rsinger | edsu: 5 minutes, not sure - going to have look at lyrics sites [11:34:54] BigD | bmljenny++ [11:34:57] ranti | bmljenny but that makes the live so boring if we can't rags each other. ;-) [11:34:59] mbklein | Because the #1 question from the city whenever the BPL wants to do *anything* is "How does this help THE KIDS?" [11:35:02] cbeer | s/code4lib/code for america/ [11:35:03] mjg_ | scolford: outsider? you? I wouldn't have thought that. [11:35:08] mbklein | scolford++ [11:35:15] BillDueber | jrochkind: Well, we've got a really good guess for most of them from the metadata. It's still on the order of 200M pages or something. [11:35:22] ---| ---> jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:35:27] akorphan | tape storage? [11:35:28] rsinger | R&R HOF GUY [11:35:29] * pberry throws up the horns [11:35:30] timmcgeary | cue ominous music: "I can put you in touch with people." [11:35:32] akorphan | nice. [11:35:42] lbjay | anna3lc++ [11:35:46] ---| ---> agd [9c383b5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.91] has joined #code4lib [11:35:49] ---| User: *** matts is now known as matts_away [11:35:53] scolford | mjg_: perhaps outsider was the wrong word. nothing negative intended! [11:35:53] decasm_ | anna3lc++ [11:35:55] ndushay | i'm bringing a pillow to the afternoon stuff. [11:35:57] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:35:59] jrochkind | BillDueber: yeah, but i'm imagining various automated algorithms for making judgements about what OCR'd words are bad, based on comparing with a known corpus of words (including proper nouns etc) from that language. [11:36:01] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:36:05] bmljenny | Can we get our tape drive talking to our receipt printer? [11:36:10] bohyunkim | zoia: in the sense that having been at some lita mtgs doesn't help being at c4l conf. [11:36:11] zoia | bohyunkim: YAKAWOW!!! [11:36:16] pmurray | bmljenny++ [11:36:20] mjg_ | awead++ # rocking and rolling [11:36:22] abarrera | ask anything should be done after an open bar session [11:36:22] rsinger | via ghostscript? [11:36:23] anarchivist | ndushay: i'll make sure i have really loud sounds in my presentations [11:36:25] * jtgormanph grumbles about wireless card not being able to connect to networks [11:36:26] anarchivist | awead++ [11:36:29] ---| ---> redgal [47c6ab34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.198.171.52] has joined #code4lib [11:36:44] decasm_ | rosy420? [11:36:50] ndushay | anarchivist: the pillow is for my back. [11:36:58] anarchivist | ndushay: i'll still make sure i have really loud sounds in my presentations [11:36:59] ranti | rosy280 [11:37:01] cbeer | awead: definitely want to hear about your experience, in case wgbh ever gets to that point. [11:37:03] scolford | rosy1280++ [11:37:06] ndushay | doesn't everyone understand my context without my explaining it? [11:37:07] BillDueber | jrochkind: The problem is that the really interesting words (e.g., chemical compounds, domain-sepcific lingo) are not gonna be in the dictionary. [11:37:12] mbklein | rosy1280++ [11:37:16] akorphan | beer++ [11:37:18] mbklein | scolford: It's all about the kids. [11:37:19] mjg_ | what is this "beer" people keep referring to? [11:37:20] timmcgeary | beer++ [11:37:23] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [11:37:24] pberry | Bribe them with beer...genius [11:37:27] sdellis | precontributedUseCases++ [11:37:28] ejk | beers++ [11:37:29] ---| ---> tomkeays [~chatzilla@cpe-67-249-120-52.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [11:37:31] royt | mjgiarlo++ [11:37:32] mjg_ | excommunication++ [11:37:32] mbklein | SHOUT THAT MAN DOWN [11:37:33] anarchivist | awead: i think we're looking to do something similar at yale [11:37:37] abarrera | mjg_ smell ur neck beard and u'll know [11:37:39] timmcgeary | @ana questioning solr [11:37:40] zoia | timmcgeary: Squinting or lose [11:37:40] anarchivist | awead: but i'm not working on it [11:37:50] akorphan | wicked fast! [11:37:51] rsinger | no incremental updates in sphinx, right? [11:37:52] pberry | Craigs list switched to sphinx [11:37:55] mjg_ | DEPLOY SOLR INQUISITIONISTAS [11:37:57] ---| ---> wolfi_ [80704639@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.112.70.57] has joined #code4lib [11:37:57] awead | anarchivist: lto tape storage? [11:38:03] ejk | We use Sphinx at AADL [11:38:03] ---| <<-- mbach [9c383b0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.11] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:38:04] edsu | pberry: from what? :-) [11:38:05] mbklein | mjg_++ [11:38:07] mjg_ | abarrera: mmmm, stout. [11:38:18] anarchivist | awead: i think so. we recently purchased a tape library [11:38:19] jrochkind | BillDueber: true. it's not easy. but it seems like you could do something to lessen human effort. I wonder if Google is doing clever things (they're not telling us about) with their Books scans. Google is pretty damn good at this sort of thing, like they're excellent 'did you mean' spell suggetions -- which are NOT dictionary based, but based on google's own corpus of the web. [11:38:20] pberry | edsu: I think mysql fulltext [11:38:20] ejk | ...with SOPAC [11:38:22] decasm_ | search like an egyptian [11:38:29] erikhatcher | decasm: LOL [11:38:30] awead | anarchivists: nice [11:38:34] timmcgeary | decasm_++ [11:38:36] ---| <<-- jillern [981ea34d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.30.163.77] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:38:39] KingNightWolf | problems in Egypt sphinx not stable [11:38:40] scolford | mbklein: I'm sick of the farking kids. [11:38:42] mtomko | jrochkind: I think google is doing it with brute force. [11:38:42] ejk | I'm still in Ann Arbor, eby is there... heh [11:38:47] scolford | lbjay++ # for turning the mic around. duh. [11:38:48] BillDueber | jrochkind: We get teh OCR from Google :-) [11:38:49] ejk | sorry, eby [11:38:50] mbklein | KingNightWolf++ [11:38:58] pberry | LTO = less than optimal [11:39:03] flyingzumwalt | awead: keep an eye on https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FCREPO/High+Level+Storage [11:39:03] edsu | KoChief [11:39:05] royt | what? we need more? [11:39:19] jrochkind | mtomko: i don't know what 'brute force' means here. Of course they are using a hell of a lot of CPU to do it. It is not clear ot me what the algorithm is even if you have all the cpu you need, there is no 'brute force' solution you still need a clever algorithm. [11:39:19] pberry | KingNightWolf: Too soon! [11:39:20] eby | Made me raise my hand ejk [11:39:28] mtomko | I saw a talk by Jon Orwant and he implied that they're just applying a bunch of different OCR algorithms and combining the results, plus human verification. [11:39:32] akorphan | @rate Django Reinhardt : Django Haystack [11:39:35] erikhatcher | lbjay: dude, let's talk [11:39:37] zoia | akorphan: Django: 5.8; Reinhardt: 9.8; :: 8.6; Django: 5.8; Haystack: 10.0. Haystack rocks! [11:39:39] ejk | ejk-- [11:39:40] jrochkind | mtomko: ah, sweet, I like that. [11:39:44] akorphan | sigh. [11:39:52] akorphan | colon rated pretty high. [11:39:55] knickum | sphinx 1.1 beta is getting real-time updates (still not incremental though) [11:39:59] lbjay | erikhatcher: i thought you left [11:40:01] erikhatcher | it's still a work in progress, just a quick hack.... [11:40:11] erikhatcher | https://github.com/lucidimagination/Prism [11:40:15] eby | Sphinx is good but you are dealing more like lucene than solr [11:40:16] jrochkind | mtomko: i seriously doubt the X million Google Books scans have been human verified though. But applying multipl e OCR's is a good idea. [11:40:17] dchud | 日本人からの質問はどこですか？ :) [11:40:22] timmcgeary | akorphan: be kind to your colon [11:40:26] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:40:30] erikhatcher | lbjay: i came home last night, yes [11:40:31] mtomko | jrochkind: no, it's a sampling approach... it would have to be. [11:40:31] erikhatcher | i' [11:40:31] erikhatcher | m s [11:40:32] erikhatcher | tream [11:40:32] erikhatcher | ed [11:40:33] erikhatcher | in [11:40:33] decasm_ | dchud: Q: what does that mean? [11:40:35] erikhatcher | , and irc'd [11:40:39] akorphan | timmcgeary: fiber++ [11:40:48] timmcgeary | fiber++ [11:40:51] mbklein | mtomko: They're likely also comparing various possible OCR candidates their huge corpus of natural full text to determine the "most likely / most accurate" version. [11:40:54] highermath | eby: sphinx is not solr. [11:40:56] lbjay | erikhatcher: cool. that's what i'm talkin about [11:40:57] timmcgeary | @ana bits for lib [11:40:58] zoia | timmcgeary: Blob if stir [11:40:59] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:41:01] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:41:01] kirkhess | is there an API go get the OCRed text from Google books? [11:41:02] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:41:06] erikhatcher | uh.... i'm streaming in, and on irc, duh [11:41:13] danhorst | lbjay: https://github.com/outoftime/sunspot https://github.com/outoftime/sunspot_rails [11:41:15] ---| <<-- gsf [~gsf@pdpc/supporter/active/gsf] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:41:16] flyingzumwalt | just finished reading backscroll from the OM presentation. Thanks for all the great questions. I'll incorporate answers into the OM docs. [11:41:17] ---| <<-- tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:41:18] abarrera | mjg_ nice made up question, considering you really don't work [11:41:27] timmcgeary | good BoF session to have [11:41:28] ndushay | flyingzumwalt++ [11:41:29] edsu | mjg_++ [11:41:32] lbjay | danhorst: thanks! [11:41:35] mbklein | abarrera++ [11:41:41] ---| <<-- joy [9c383a71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.113] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:41:42] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:41:43] mjg_ | abarrera: I'll kill you. [11:41:45] eby | highermath: Yeah that's what I said [11:41:47] lbjay | waiting for something not ruby-based [11:41:48] ndushay | which page? [11:41:53] jaron | flyingzumwalt++ [11:41:57] akorphan | ndushay: Guide to the Perplexed on the wiki [11:41:58] tbw | we have a repository with 400TB but we use the filesystem (HathiTrust) [11:42:06] ndushay | oh. [11:42:09] ndushay | been there. [11:42:12] abarrera | mjg_: only if BigD doesn't eat me first, i saw him eyeing me [11:42:12] ndushay | added stuff. [11:42:14] mtomko | mbklein: indeed - I was very impressed with their presentation... I think they're very clever. [11:42:24] edsu | anarchivist: sucks to be you [11:42:26] mbklein | @who has a really good question they haven't asked yet? [11:42:26] zoia | dmc186_ has a really good question they haven't asked yet. [11:42:30] timmcgeary | @ana wash my hands of it [11:42:31] zoia | timmcgeary: Oh Man! Shady swift [11:42:34] mbklein | @who also has a really good question they haven't asked yet? [11:42:34] zoia | Jerms_ also has a really good question they haven't asked yet. [11:42:35] MrDys | thank fuck. [11:42:39] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:42:41] akorphan | I snicker every time I hear "git". [11:42:41] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:42:47] ndushay | @thank fuck [11:42:48] zoia | ndushay: I am your friend, approved by the Communists in charge of your life from cradle to grave. [11:42:48] pmurray | painless-- [11:42:49] knickum | teehee [11:42:51] mjg_ | tbw++ # I've been impressed by HT's storage architecture [11:42:53] akorphan | And I always pronounce "github" in my head with a "th" [11:42:59] scolford | In other words, "Take my baby and I'll throw in some Pampers!" [11:43:00] edsu | lbjay: oh that reminds me http://drupal.org/project/apachesolr [11:43:08] knickum | sounds like elvish [11:43:11] timmcgeary | feel_the_urge++ [11:43:16] knickum | github elrandir [11:43:25] MrDys | it's amazing how much turning that front mic around made it more social [11:43:38] akorphan | knickum++ [11:43:41] lbjay | edsu: yeah. i don't think of that as something where you can slap a quick search interface onto an existing index [11:43:42] duspal | scolford++ [11:43:43] ejk | turn_the_mic++ [11:43:44] timmcgeary | party at the library [11:43:50] akorphan | rock_the_mic++ [11:43:51] timmcgeary | data curation on tap [11:43:59] jaron | @zalgo2 data curation [11:43:59] zoia | jaron: d͏á̵͟t̛a͏ ́͢͝cu̢̢͠r̸͢͢a̶tio̷n [11:43:59] lbjay | edsu: but thanks! [11:44:19] anarchivist | @ana run for the border [11:44:19] zoia | anarchivist: Fend brute horror [11:44:22] edsu | lbjay: like http://drupal.org/project/apachesolr_views ? [11:44:25] flyingzumwalt | @takify Oh Canadia! [11:44:25] zoia | Ó Ħ   Ć Å Ň Ẵ Ḓ Ị Ấ ! [11:44:37] pberry | Whiskey [11:44:42] jrochkind | yes! every programmer learn cataloging, every cataloger learn programming. [11:44:52] highermath | cataloging++ [11:44:54] pberry | Break dance [11:44:55] highermath | really [11:45:00] zacho | Learn *SOMETHING* about technology. [11:45:01] ejk | rake something! [11:45:06] highermath | arduino++ [11:45:08] akorphan | snicker [11:45:12] zacho | Don't learn useless privilege. [11:45:14] timmcgeary | @ana break something [11:45:14] edsu | Don't be afraid of making mistakes. [11:45:15] zoia | timmcgeary: Im the knobs rage [11:45:19] mbklein | reality-- [11:45:22] pberry | Watch Inception [11:45:30] abarrera | pberry++ [11:45:30] scolford | jrochkind: I'd just love to teach a basic relational db class for catalogers. [11:45:34] tdonohue | learn_cataloging++ [11:45:36] ---| ---> stevermiles [8cb6f842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.66] has joined #code4lib [11:45:38] bmljenny | zacho: Oooooh burn [11:45:39] jrochkind | scolford: do it! [11:45:41] akorphan | sigh, Inception. [11:45:41] lbjay | and vampires! [11:45:46] timmcgeary | cataloging_friends++ [11:45:49] tzhaya | jrochkind++ [11:45:52] erikhatcher | punch something [11:45:52] edsu | Have Users! #awesome [11:45:54] pkiraly | re [11:45:54] cazzerson | write a marc parser in assembly [11:45:55] lbjay | i heard that as "halve users" [11:45:55] pberry | What have users ever done for us? [11:45:56] ---| <<-- kirkhess [8cb69526@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.38] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:46:00] highermath | users+- [11:46:01] timmcgeary | user research is overrated [11:46:01] flyingzumwalt | @zalgo2 have users [11:46:02] zoia | flyingzumwalt: h҉̨a͘v͜͟è̶̵ ̕͞u͟͏s͟e͜͞rs [11:46:07] scolford | jrochkind: you are making my to do list grow! [11:46:07] jeff | i don't have the stream up. did baz luhrmann just start talking about sunscreen? [11:46:09] akorphan | cazzerson+- [11:46:13] bmljenny | Don't call me Shirley [11:46:21] ndushay | timmcgeary: not if the user is YOU [11:46:30] knickum | bmljenny: leslie_nielson++ [11:46:31] akorphan | I still have no idea what a microservice is. [11:46:33] gregjansen | bring up rogue VMs [11:46:34] edsu | lol [11:46:38] mbklein | jrochkind: The problem with "learn programming" is that the definition of "programming" a lot of "programming for non-techies" classes use is woefully lacking in real-world usefulness. [11:46:39] anna3lc | what are we interoperating? [11:46:40] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:46:51] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@156-56-58-204.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:46:51] ---| <<-- jtgorman [~jtgorman@156-56-58-204.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [11:46:51] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [11:46:56] timmcgeary | ndushay: no user research isn't hurting Apple [11:47:00] ndushay | midwestern_accent-- [11:47:05] ndushay | :-D [11:47:06] scolford | making_shit_up++ [11:47:07] jrochkind | mbklein: i think those are still useful. catalogers don't REALLY need to program real world useful things. They just need to understand how to approach things algorithmically. [11:47:10] mbklein | anna3lc: Interoperability: Making the round donuts work with the square donuts. [11:47:12] timmcgeary | ndushay: of course, not everyone has a Steve Jobs... [11:47:21] akorphan | @sing metallica : disposable heroes : back to the front [11:47:22] anarchivist | @dance [11:47:22] zoia | o/ [11:47:23] zoia | /| [11:47:24] zoia | >> [11:47:33] ndushay | timmcgeary: apple isn't currently in danger of becoming extinct. So they are doing a good job of predicting user demand. [11:47:34] anna3lc | mbklein: there's no way that's possible [11:47:34] zoia | Do just as we say / Finished here. Greetings, Death, / He's yours to take away / Back to the front [11:47:36] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:47:37] ndushay | us? less so. [11:47:46] anarchivist | @arch commits himself to distributed VCSes only [11:47:46] zoia | THE ARCHITECT COMMITS HIMSELF TO DISTRIBUTED VCSES ONLY [11:47:47] mbklein | anna3lc: It's a PROBLEM FOR THE FUTURE [11:47:53] highermath | timmcgeary: most of us are lucky just to have a job [11:47:56] pberry | git++ [11:48:03] anarchivist | git++ [11:48:10] ---| <<-- dericed1 [~Adium@pool-71-125-31-89.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:48:11] erikhatcher | BillDueber++ [11:48:13] anna3lc | mbklein++ [11:48:14] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:48:17] ndushay | git++ [11:48:20] pberry | Huh [11:48:22] jrochkind | mbklein: just like programmers don't need to be able to create an AACR2-MARC record that would be accepted by Conser. They just need to understand the.... well I can't explain it. But something about cataloging. :) [11:48:25] timmcgeary | @ndushay I would argue, though not strongly, that our "user research" is contributing to the path toward extinction [11:48:25] zoia | timmcgeary: can you express that in RDF plz? [11:48:28] akorphan | "velocity templates"? Did I hear that right? [11:48:30] edsu | building_urls++ [11:48:31] anarchivist | http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/08/news/companies/pepsi_skinny_can/index.htm [11:48:45] pyott | velociraptors? [11:48:49] ndushay | timmcgeary: users meaning students and researchers. [11:48:53] edsu | just talking about building urls would be good [11:48:57] dlovins_ | ask_anything++ [11:48:58] timmcgeary | ndushay: yup [11:48:59] akorphan | woot! camera giveawy! [11:49:00] dlovins_ | dchud++ [11:49:02] anna3lc | dchud++ [11:49:03] edsu | dchud++ [11:49:05] MrDys | some people to give away [11:49:07] akorphan | dchud++ [11:49:11] ---| ---> dericed1 [~Adium@pool-71-125-31-89.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [11:49:11] pmurray | dchud++ [11:49:12] tzhaya | from twitter question: only code4lib(library) ? ... code4museum, code4archives and code4LMA (MLA) [11:49:12] ndushay | mbklein: go go go [11:49:14] ---| <<-- tomkeays [~chatzilla@cpe-67-249-120-52.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:49:14] akorphan | I wish I'd brought something to give away. [11:49:15] anna3lc | some herds of programers to give away [11:49:15] BillDueber | dchud++ [11:49:18] chelociraptor | free_people++ [11:49:19] gluejar | yes, velocity templates [11:49:23] helrond | dchud for president [11:49:25] erikhatcher | building urls with velocity templates? [11:49:27] mbklein | ndushay: I don't have the shirts with me [11:49:27] maruyama3 | don you think catalogging crossover museum, archives, zoo, aquarium...interpretive center such such such? [11:49:31] ndushay | k [11:49:33] archivist | code4all [11:49:35] bohyunkim | free books+++++ [11:49:40] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:49:44] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:49:49] atz | dchud++ [11:49:50] ---| <<-- pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:50:09] ---| <<-- bemsha [9c383aeb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.235] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:50:09] pmurray | oxygen++ [11:50:12] anarchivist | http://www.oreillymaker.com/link/6146/coding-drunk/ [11:50:13] akorphan | @google velocity template [11:50:14] zoia | akorphan: Apache Velocity Site - The Apache Velocity Project: <http://velocity.apache.org/>; Apache Velocity - Velocity User Guide: <http://velocity.apache.org/engine/releases/velocity-1.5/user-guide.html>; Start up the Velocity Template Engine - JavaWorld: <http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2001/jw-1228-velocity.html>; Apache Velocity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages) [11:50:16] ndushay | that's pretty cool - licenses for oxygen [11:50:17] * jtgorman thinks a new network card may be in his future [11:50:18] MrDys | @sing sweet : love is like oxygen [11:50:18] mbklein | jrochkind: I know, but an introductory programming class is useless unless it results in some minimal capacity to understand how real-world problems turn into code. [11:50:19] zoia | MrDys: No lyrics found for love is like oxygen by sweet [11:50:21] ndushay | great idea [11:50:25] jrochkind | mbklein: agreed. [11:50:26] MrDys | @sing the sweet : love is like oxygen [11:50:28] zoia | MrDys: No lyrics found for love is like oxygen by the sweet [11:50:30] tbw | oxygen++ really good xslt debugging! [11:50:32] MrDys | zoia: die [11:50:33] zoia | MrDys: your CeCe Winans Featured Selection order has been confirmed! [11:50:38] erikhatcher | what does hellman (you here on irc?) mean by your question? most likely yes here [11:50:38] * dchud blushes [11:50:42] anna3lc | anarchivist++ [11:50:42] mjg_ | so many michaels [11:50:43] mbklein | jrochkind: And too many of those classes never get there. [11:50:52] mjg_ | why can we not standardize on one michael? [11:50:54] dlovins_ | anemic applause [11:50:54] jrochkind | mbklein: so maybe it's up to you to design and teach an algorithmic thinking for catalogers class. :) [11:50:56] ndushay | dchud++ [11:51:06] edsu | erikhatcher: hellman = gluejar [11:51:08] anarchivist | mjg_: i standardized on curation michaelservices [11:51:08] mbklein | jrochkind: Maybe in my next life. [11:51:19] jrochkind | JodiS would like to. [11:51:21] mjg_ | anarchivist: mcdonald michaelservices [11:51:25] erikhatcher | gluejar: ? [11:51:26] jrochkind | dan who? [11:51:27] gluejar | come talk to me [11:51:30] dlovins_ | Dan Who? [11:51:32] mbklein | danwhat?! [11:51:35] pberry | Somebody is going to call HR [11:51:37] bohyunkim | danwho must be hung over [11:51:38] timmcgeary | what kind of conference is this? [11:51:40] jaron | @who is dan who [11:51:40] zoia | cbeer is dan who. [11:51:41] mjg_ | danwho-- [11:51:45] druthb | merciless_mocking++ [11:51:46] ndushay | dantomorrow [11:51:46] akorphan | @sing kurtis blow : the breaks [11:51:46] ejk | You mean "Dan WHOM" [11:51:47] zoia | Clap your hands, everybody / If you got what it takes / 'Cause I'm Kurtis Blow and I want you to know / That these are the breaks [11:51:48] edsu | erikhatcher: sorry, i thought you were asking who hellman was [11:51:49] * dbs waves at scolford - good to see you [11:51:51] anarchivist | mbklein: go back to california [11:51:51] dbs | FIX [11:51:57] jrochkind | if i don't win a book, does that karmically increase my chances of winning a camera? [11:51:59] maccabee | we need bob barker [11:52:05] anarchivist | mbklein: hippie [11:52:07] maccabee | a new car!!!!! [11:52:12] erikhatcher | edsu: i was... you done right [11:52:14] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cbeer) [11:52:15] atz | "A Nuewww Caaaahrrrr!" 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[12:06:25] wtd | @karma lunch [12:06:26] zoia | wtd: Karma for "lunch" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. 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[12:15:45] jbrinley | @quote random [12:15:45] zoia jbrinley: Quote #2276: "<edsu> meanwhile in gotham city, batman writes another zotero scraping plugin" (added by lbjay at 10:53 AM, April 21, 2010) [12:16:09] ---| <<-- bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:16:18] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:16:29] eby | @praise batman [12:16:29] zoia | we are all merely terms in the history of batman [12:16:30] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [12:17:24] ---| <<-- abugsyes [48a40672@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.164.6.114] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:18:14] ---| <<-- sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:18:39] ---| <<-- redgal [47c6ab34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.198.171.52] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:18:39] ---| <<-- jbowen [8097bd5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.151.189.90] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:18:45] ---| <<-- MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:18:54] edsu | @tweet we are all merely terms in the history of batman [12:18:55] zoia | edsu: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [12:19:05] edsu | @tweet we are all merely terms in the history of batman [12:19:06] zoia | edsu: The operation succeeded. [12:19:29] ---| <<-- spencer_ [806797e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.103.151.229] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:19:30] ---| <<-- fresco_ [6de7c1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.231.193.162] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:19:30] ---| <<-- cwilper [ad579d07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.87.157.7] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:20:41] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:21:02] wtd | edsu: Tried Subjects Here at work, got different results. Nice. [12:21:37] wtd | It knows I'm at the north end of the city now, not downtown. [12:21:58] edsu | wtd: cool [12:23:05] ---| <<-- _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:23:11] wtd | I'm looking at Mark Pilgrim's page on geolocation in browsers. He's clear on the security they provide, but I wonder how many plugins and malware will steal the information. [12:24:16] ---| ---> edsu2 [45f3181d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.243.24.29] has joined #code4lib [12:24:18] ---| ---> _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:24:32] ---| <<-- edsu2 [45f3181d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.243.24.29] has quit (Client Quit) [12:27:30] ---| <<-- maruyama3 [~maruyama3@150.101.102.121.dy.bbexcite.jp] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:28:24] jeff | wtd: unless i'm missing your point, plugins and malware can already "steal" the info with no need for help by the browser. 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[12:28:46] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@69.5.36.202] has joined #code4lib [12:29:13] ---| ---> NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:32:36] ---| ---> _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:33:31] ---| <--- mcdonald1 [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [12:35:30] ---| ---> mjsuhonos [~Adium@206-188-64-101.cpe.distributel.net] has joined #code4lib [12:35:32] ---| <--- mjsuhonos [~Adium@206-188-64-101.cpe.distributel.net] has left #code4lib () [12:35:47] edsu | wtd: yeah, i think you authorizing inkdroid.org to know your location means that your browser already knows it [12:35:59] edsu | wtd: and it is being asked to share it [12:36:19] edsu | wtd: so for plugins and stuff running in the browser, i think the cat is already out of the bag [12:36:44] ---| ---> demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has joined #code4lib [12:37:14] ---| ---> dericed [~Adium@157.150.192.225] has joined #code4lib [12:37:31] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:39:55] pberry | dayquil++ [12:40:32] jrochkind | @seen JodiS [12:40:33] zoia | jrochkind: JodiS was last seen in #code4lib 19 hours, 38 minutes, and 1 second ago: <JodiS> anna3lc: that would just be cruel [12:40:56] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [12:40:59] jrochkind | edsu wtd depending on the browser's security model applied to plugins. But yeah, I'd expect. [12:41:39] ---| ---> Baroquem [megan@156-56-59-26.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:41:40] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [12:41:57] jeff | plugin security models are very very new -- chrome's sandboxing of flash, for example. [12:42:14] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@69.5.36.202] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [12:42:21] jeff | (maybe "not yet wirespread" would be more accurate than "very very new") [12:42:26] ---| ---> MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:42:57] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:43:27] ---| ---> rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has joined #code4lib [12:45:32] wtd | Wirespread ... good band name. [12:45:46] wtd | What's that band name command? [12:45:55] jeff | it's @band add Name Goes Here [12:46:01] wtd | @band add Wirespread [12:46:02] zoia | wtd: Band 'Wirespread' added to list [12:46:06] wtd | @help band [12:46:06] zoia | wtd: (band [add|remove|search {BAND}]) -- KA-RAAAAY-ZEE band names! Get one, add one, remove one, search! [12:46:28] jeff | i believe "gimme a random band name" is just: [12:46:32] jeff | @band [12:46:32] wtd | @band search foo [12:46:32] zoia | wtd: Toe Jam Footballers ; Beer is Good Food ; Foolish MacGhoulish ; Flatfoot and the Basset Hound Band ; Himmler's Favorite Food ; Tasmanian Devils Food ; The Football Fanatics! [12:46:34] zoia | jeff: The Non-square Rectangles [12:46:56] wtd | @band search royal [12:46:57] zoia | wtd: No bands found matching 'royal' [12:47:06] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:47:10] wtd | @band [12:47:10] zoia | wtd: The Wreck Collection [12:47:35] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:47:50] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:47:54] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:48:12] MrDys | @sing electric light orchestra : don't bring me down [12:48:14] zoia | You got me runnin' goin' out of my mind, / You got me thinkin' that I'm wastin' my time. / Don't bring me down,no no no no no, [12:48:18] eby | @quote random [12:48:18] zoia | eby: Quote #2007: "<edsu> it's all hokey at some level" (added by mjgiarlo at 03:36 PM, September 24, 2009) [12:48:18] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [12:48:21] MrDys | a woohoo [12:48:36] ---| <--- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has left #code4lib () [12:48:39] eby | @eightball hokey all the way down? 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[12:59:15] jtgorman | dbs: makes me a little nervous about trying again... 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[13:02:02] * ksclarke hears that in lbjay's daddy voice [13:02:10] scolford | I've seen the camera winners! [13:02:16] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:02:27] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:02:31] lbjay | @takify MOMMYDADDY [13:02:31] zoia | Ṃ Ỡ ℳ ℳ Ỵ Ḓ Ȧ Ḏ Ɖ Ƴ [13:02:50] ---| ---> benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [13:02:59] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [13:03:06] anna3lc | mbklein: i had yr back [13:03:11] mjg_ | mbklein: I architected that win for you. 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[13:03:50] ---| <<-- hdl [~hdl@biblibre-breteuil.pck.nerim.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:03:53] mjg_ | SHUT DOWN [13:04:03] akorphan | mbklein is mc klein [13:04:06] anarchivist | http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/feb/08/spaghettios-sparked-alleged-samurai-sword-attack/ [13:04:08] ---| User: *** maccabee_ is now known as maccabee [13:04:08] ---| ---> abugseye [48a40672@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.164.6.114] has joined #code4lib [13:04:10] lbjay | i haz no flip [13:04:12] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:04:17] edsu | mbklein++ [13:04:18] scolford | soundboard++ [13:04:20] MrDys | "you people" [13:04:20] mjg_ | mbklein++ [13:04:21] BigD | Mmm, cheese [13:04:22] lbjay | mbklein++ [13:04:26] ---| ---> escowles_ [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:26] ---| ---> stevemeyer [~stephenme@156-56-59-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:32] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:33] ---| ---> mattriehle [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:34] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:04:35] ---| ---> agd [9c383b5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.91] has joined #code4lib [13:04:36] robcaSSon | mbklein++ # he should sing all the intros [13:04:38] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:39] ---| ---> zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:39] mjg_ | MrDys: he's so racist [13:04:41] ranti | GIS++ [13:04:44] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:45] cazzerson | tshearerlib++ [13:04:46] ---| ---> masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:47] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:49] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:05:04] mbklein | MrDys: What does he mean by "you people" [13:05:05] ---| ---> sekjal [~Ian@156-56-58-89.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:05:05] mbklein | ? [13:05:09] ---| ---> bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [13:05:11] anna3lc | hi mike [13:05:12] ---| ---> bkeese [8cb694a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.164] has joined #code4lib [13:05:12] akorphan | Hi Mike! [13:05:13] MrDys | mbklein: you're the one that said it [13:05:16] duspal | Hi Mike [13:05:27] mbklein | MrDys: That was MC me. This is channel me. [13:05:31] MrDys | oh, right [13:05:48] jtgorman | mbklein: what happens if MC you channels channel you? What does the 245 look like? [13:05:49] BigD | What do YOU mean, you people? [13:05:50] ---| ---> fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:05:54] ndushay | mbklein: where is winner you? 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[13:06:35] jrochkind | @google open layers [13:06:36] mbklein | anna3lc++ word [13:06:36] zoia | jrochkind: OpenLayers: Home: <http://openlayers.org/>; OpenLayers Examples: <http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/>; What is OpenLayers? — OpenLayers: <http://docs.openlayers.org/>; OpenLayers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenLayers>; OpenLayers | drupal.org: <http://drupal.org/project/openlayers>; OpenLayers: <http://trac.osgeo.org/openlayers/>; OpenLayers Info Sheet | (1 more message) [13:06:40] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:06:42] ---| ---> Jerms_ [8cb6f8c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.199] has joined #code4lib [13:06:43] lbjay | i mean he's not even talking at the mic [13:06:54] pmurray | joke_fail++ [13:06:59] davidWalker | joke_fail++ [13:07:09] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@156-56-59-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:07:10] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [13:07:13] erikhatcher | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zJk2WblZSjM/TQN1sdBv_KI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/tXC2C8cUU_4/s1600/far-side-what-dogs-hear.jpg - blah blah Solr blah blah [13:07:13] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:07:16] pmurray | @karma contentdm [13:07:16] zoia | pmurray: Karma for "contentdm" has been increased 1 time and decreased 9 times for a total karma of -8. 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[13:08:34] mbklein | MrDys: Vocoder. "Here to present for Sean, here's Laurie Anderson." [13:08:40] mbklein | eby++ [13:08:42] MrDys | mbklein++ [13:08:45] ---| ---> blarg [9801bfa0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.1.191.160] has joined #code4lib [13:08:46] mtomko | "This is the time" [13:08:52] mbklein | mtomko++ [13:08:52] scolford | eby++ [13:08:52] mtomko | And this is the record of the time. [13:08:59] ---| ---> ccurry_ [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:09:07] edsu | this_talk++ [13:09:14] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@mobile-166-137-140-060.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: ccurry) [13:09:14] ---| User: *** ccurry_ is now known as ccurry [13:09:28] mtomko | I'm glad I didn't skip to get real coffee. 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[13:10:54] erikhatcher | no, solr can't do that yet [13:11:09] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:11:12] mbklein | tim_shearer++ mike_graves++ [13:11:24] mbklein | lbjay's_microphone_skillz-- [13:11:30] mbklein | lbjay: ;) [13:11:32] anarchivist | holy crap that's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawesome [13:11:35] ---| ---> tzhaya [9c383a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.121] has joined #code4lib [13:11:39] timmcgeary | facet_joke++ [13:11:48] ---| <<-- spaldo [~christoph@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:11:49] anarchivist | @sing fugazi : facet squared [13:11:50] zoia | Cool's eternal, but it always dated / They should never touch the ground / It's not worth, it's the investment / That keeps us tied up in all these strings [13:11:50] MrDys | I dig this [13:11:54] was | this is super cool [13:11:56] knickum | gis_on_the_cheap++ [13:12:07] anarchivist | hugh_morton++ # it's a fucking awesome collection [13:12:11] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:12:17] ksclarke | hugh_morton_photos++ [13:12:18] jrochkind | this is awesome [13:12:20] jrochkind | i want his code. [13:12:32] ndushay | code4lib2011++ [13:12:34] timmcgeary | unintentional_bell-- [13:12:37] anarchivist | unc++ [13:12:38] anna3lc | what is the relationship btwn open layers and google maps? [13:12:42] escowles_ | switching_maps++ [13:12:45] atz | persistent_links++! [13:12:49] jrochkind | i want this to be a blacklight plugin [13:12:52] chelociraptor | *I* want his brains! [13:12:53] atz | cool_urls++ [13:13:00] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:13:03] * jaron hopes for a github link at the end of this [13:13:11] anarchivist | anna3lc: openlayers is a javascript library for displaying map data [13:13:15] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [13:13:16] cbeer | jrochkind: we might be tackling mapping within blacklight this year [13:13:19] scolford | NOICE [13:13:21] bess | jrochkind++ that would be awesome [13:13:23] atz | yes! [13:13:25] bess | cbeer++ [13:13:26] anarchivist | anna3lc: you can load map data from google maps among other things [13:13:26] ---| ---> sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has joined #code4lib [13:13:27] ---| ---> dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has joined #code4lib [13:13:30] awead | sweet! [13:13:31] freqlurker | wow [13:13:37] ranti | awesomesauce [13:13:39] ---| ---> FluMike [9802479f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.2.71.159] has joined #code4lib [13:13:42] anarchivist | unc++ [13:13:43] ndushay | cbeer++ [13:13:51] escowles_ | want to steal this [13:13:53] anarchivist | blacklight++ [13:13:55] lbjay | i want to point something like this at the sky and have stellar objects as my facets [13:13:55] jrochkind | cbeer: i am impressed byt he clustering openlayers provides. seems to make it possible to put tens (hundreds?) of thousands of items on a map at once. [13:13:56] cbeer | totally going to steal their interface [13:13:57] scolford | unc++ [13:13:57] pyott | this rocks! [13:14:01] pmurray | backup_slides++ [13:14:07] * anarchivist knew there was a reason why he switched to the darkside [13:14:08] anna3lc | anarchivist rad, thankyou [13:14:09] MrDys | lbjay: yeah yeah do that do that [13:14:11] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:14:16] abarrera | unc++ # err when is code4lib gonna be at one of the nc schools? [13:14:21] ndushay | i can see i'm going to be up late working on my presentation - the bar is high. [13:14:27] anarchivist | anna3lc: http://www.openlayers.org/ [13:14:29] akorphan | mmm, metacrap [13:14:29] MrDys | unc asheville isn't unc? [13:14:31] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:14:33] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~jdwyn@156-56-58-56.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jdwyn) [13:14:35] jrochkind | abarrera: we were in asheville last year? [13:14:37] ---| ---> sjmielh [~Adium@78-20-193-98.access.telenet.be] has joined #code4lib [13:14:47] ---| ---> rnanders_ [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:14:54] akorphan | MrDys: Only UNC is UNC. Everyone else just borrows the brand. [13:14:54] abarrera | i know, but i'm thinking unc or ncstate :) [13:14:57] timmcgeary | unc = unc chapel hill [13:15:03] jtgorman | MrDys: unc -> chapel hill [13:15:09] BigD | abarrera ate Asheville [13:15:10] jtgorman | usually [13:15:19] MrDys | meeeeeow [13:15:27] * jtgorman liked chapel hill the half day he saw of it [13:15:33] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [13:15:33] anarchivist | nc++ [13:15:41] dchud | definitely a good set of tradeoff decisions here. we prototyped something similar and didn't get nearly as far [13:15:47] atz | rob_away: still away [13:15:49] atz | ? [13:15:52] pmurray | consistency > authority [13:15:59] jrochkind | yeah, this is really impressive [13:16:02] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:16:04] timmcgeary | @ana gis awesomeness [13:16:05] zoia | timmcgeary: On wise messages [13:16:06] robcaSSon | atz: not the rob you're looking for [13:16:06] mbklein | scolford: BPL Fedora repo has a bunch of geodata, and can output GeoRSS. No openlayers integration. Locations are based on subject headings, though, so it's not super-specific. [13:16:19] mbklein | scolford: We need to sit and do that knowledge transfer tonight. :) [13:16:22] MrDys | moron workflow [13:16:26] timmcgeary | zoia++ [13:16:28] atz | pmurray: yeah, since the point of authorities to enforce consistency [13:16:32] robcaSSon | @urbandict knowledge transfer [13:16:32] akorphan | hmm, how does geonames stop its DB from getting metacrapified when people don't immediately find the locatino they want and make a dupe? [13:16:35] zoia | robcaSSon: Error: No definition found. [13:16:38] anarchivist | @ana curation mornoservices [13:16:39] zoia | anarchivist: Cretins veracious moron [13:16:47] ---| <<-- dlovins [~dlovins@conference/code4lib/x-mjssmrldobwzzipf] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:16:48] ndushay | pounding-- [13:16:48] scolford | mbklein: yes, I want to do shit with that. was frustrated i couldn't include that in the postcards exhibit. [13:16:48] ---| ---> dlovins_ [~dlovins@conference/code4lib/x-edmvubscxnjxzruu] has joined #code4lib [13:16:55] anarchivist | poundcake-- [13:16:55] ---| ---> mulcahey99_ [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [13:16:57] ---| ---> tdonohue_ [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [13:16:58] mbklein | scolford: :( [13:16:58] ---| ---> jlhardes_ [8cb6e509@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.9] has joined #code4lib [13:17:00] ---| ---> KingNightWolf_ [9c383b39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.57] has joined #code4lib [13:17:00] ---| ---> chumpanzee_ [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has joined #code4lib [13:17:05] lbjay | @urbandict poundcake [13:17:06] escowles_ | random_pounding-- # wtf? [13:17:07] zoia | lbjay: poundcake: old-school definition for a broad that hit on the regular; I mean cold waxin' that ass [example] my poundcake is down the basement waitin' on me [/example] ; Pussy-As you eat it, and you pound on it. Comes from the song "Poundcake" by Van Halen. [example] Dude, I just love my baby's poundcake. It's tight, man. [/example] ; Is a term thats used to talk about "One" or "A Group" Of Sexy Females. Usually at a (4 more messages) [13:17:08] ---| ---> jillsexton_ [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [13:17:08] ---| ---> freqlurker_ [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [13:17:09] ---| ---> Jerms__ [8cb6f8c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.199] has joined #code4lib [13:17:18] ---| ---> bertrama_ [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [13:17:21] ---| ---> julia__ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [13:17:23] yo_bj | grilled_poundcake_with_ice_cream++ [13:17:24] MrDys | how can you have a technology pronounced "wicket" and not have a corresponding "croquet" technology [13:17:24] ndushay | mbklein: challenge for you: work "helicopter" into your next intro. [13:17:31] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [13:17:36] akorphan | granularity++ [13:17:39] ---| ---> ranti_ [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:17:45] ---| ---> abugseye_ [48a40672@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.164.6.114] has joined #code4lib [13:17:53] timmcgeary | @ana granularity [13:17:54] zoia | timmcgeary: Grainy ultra [13:17:54] akorphan | topological_granularity++ [13:17:54] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:18:00] ---| ---> mdoran_ [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [13:18:01] ---| ---> FluMike_ [9802479f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.2.71.159] has joined #code4lib [13:18:04] jtgorman | MrDys: I'm more worried about ramifications if you need to combine with a StiCKY technology [13:18:06] scolford | whoa escowles_! eek [13:18:08] atz | MrDys: "sticky wicket" # actually a cricket reference ? [13:18:13] awead | @hussein granularity [13:18:14] zoia | awead: Trashily insane guru [13:18:28] anarchivist | http://stereogum.com/635651/thurston-moore-reponds-to-albini-dis/news/ [13:18:28] ---| ---> bkeese_ [8cb694a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.164] has joined #code4lib [13:18:35] mbklein | ndushay: Next talk is MrDys. For all I know, he's ARRIVING by helicopter. [13:18:35] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [13:18:36] pberry | Reminds me of some of the Flickr geoloation stuff [13:18:39] ---| <<-- ASmith [8cb6e4e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.228.227] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:18:40] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:18:40] ---| <<-- julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:18:40] ---| <<-- KingNightWolf [9c383b39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.57] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:18:40] ---| <<-- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:18:43] MrDys | mbklein: teleporter [13:18:44] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:18:49] ndushay | mbklein: into the mike, not on the channel. [13:18:50] anarchivist | charper: ping [13:18:52] decasm_ | oooh. good idea for conference contest. pick, say, 3 esoteric words. presenters try to work those words into their presentations. vote at the end for winner. [13:18:53] ---| ---> mbach [9c383b0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.11] has joined #code4lib [13:18:55] atz | wicket being something like cricket's version of "an inning" [13:18:55] ---| ---> mcritchlow_ [~MatthewCr@156-56-58-218.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:19:04] ---| <<-- blarg [9801bfa0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.1.191.160] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [13:19:04] ---| <<-- jlhardes [8cb6e509@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.229.9] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [13:19:04] ---| <<-- mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [13:19:11] ndushay | decasm: food challenges. [13:19:12] charper | anarchivist: ? [13:19:21] jrochkind | on earth? not mars? 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[13:19:37] akorphan | @sing David Bowie : Life on Mars [13:19:38] zoia | Beating up the wrong guy / Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know / He's in the best selling show / LyricsIs there life on Mars? [13:19:45] jrochkind | this is a super awesome project [13:19:46] ryscher | decasm_: a word, a picture, and a technology [13:19:54] ---| <<-- FluMike [9802479f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.2.71.159] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- tzhaya [9c383a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.121] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- chumpanzee [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- bkeese [8cb694a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.164] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- benanderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:54] ---| <<-- jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:19:55] edsu | &clap; [13:19:55] ---| <<-- gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:19:55] timmcgeary | good talk [13:19:55] ---| ---> pbinkley [~pbinkley@142.244.35.114] has joined #code4lib [13:19:57] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:19:57] ---| User: *** ranti_ is now known as ranti [13:19:58] ---| ---> gregjansen1 [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:19:58] was | tshearer++ [13:19:58] robcaSSon | cool stuff [13:20:05] eby | @love awesome projects [13:20:05] akorphan | tshearerlib++ [13:20:07] zoia | eby: The operation succeeded. eby loves awesome projects. [13:20:11] charper | That's so cool - and w/ a substitute presenter no less [13:20:11] gregjansen1 | tagging_in_advance_of_system++ [13:20:11] scolford | escwles_: i'm hearing something, but not from backstage, I don't think [13:20:13] akorphan | Mike_Graves++ [13:20:17] jtgorman | what did jrochkind ask? [13:20:17] akorphan | the_flu-- [13:20:18] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [13:20:19] charper | tshearer++ [13:20:19] ---| <<-- pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:20:23] ---| User: *** freqlurker_ is now known as freqlurker [13:20:23] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [13:20:24] anarchivist | mbklein, ndushay, decasm: http://phdchallenge.org/2010-phd-challenge-winner [13:20:31] ---| ---> blarg [9801bfa0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.1.191.160] has joined #code4lib [13:20:33] jrochkind | how many items can you pull from solr and send to openlayers without destroying it. [13:20:38] atz | "but your toy doesn't scale...." [13:20:41] * erikhatcher claps [13:20:46] anarchivist | This year’s challenge was to get a peer-reviewed, academic paper published that contained the phrase "I Smoke Crack Rocks". Indeed it proved to be a daunting task, as there were only three submissions the entire year. But the reviewing committee’s decision was unanimous: Gabriel’s bold writing style seamlessly weaved the special phrase directly into the text in such a way that one cannot help but to think that the paper would be inc [13:20:50] atz | looks sweet though [13:20:51] FluMike_ | Mike here ... not sure how many items I can't get from Solr to OL [13:20:56] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [13:21:00] jrochkind | atz: it's still useful if it's got a max, jsut got to use it differnetly. This is way more than a toy, this is real stuff. [13:21:05] ndushay | anarchivist: they needed to show the snippet! [13:21:09] ---| <<-- mulcahey99_ [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:21:10] FluMike_ | I've tried up to around 4000 and it still seems pretty good [13:21:17] atz | yeah, no doubt. very impressive [13:21:20] pbinkley | jrochkind: openlayers is pretty scalable [13:21:24] anna3lc | anarchivist++ [13:21:26] ---| ---> rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [13:21:28] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has joined #code4lib [13:21:32] anna3lc | @who smokes crack rocks [13:21:33] zoia | kestlund smokes crack rocks. [13:21:34] ndushay | anarchivist++ [13:21:35] erikhatcher | where's the code? [13:21:37] jrochkind | pbinkley: you think you can send 100k things to it? Just the data transmission time might be a problem. [13:21:50] jrochkind Pulling 100k things from Solr at once is a problem for Solr.... unless you use lbjay's trick! [13:21:52] ---| <<-- abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:21:52] jaron | yes, how to tell what geographic string is a more specific one for this? [13:21:53] FluMike_ | the code is still pretty specific to our environment [13:21:54] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:22:01] atz | http://openlayers.org [13:22:10] ranti | FluMike++ # great project [13:22:14] ---| ---> skoczko_ [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-upnsanulxxroboam] has joined #code4lib [13:22:15] ---| <--- ndgeek [~jrittenh@nd-129-74-230-63.nat.nd.edu] has left #code4lib () [13:22:15] ---| ---> cazzerson_ [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:22:17] FluMike_ | thanks :) [13:22:19] dlovins_ | IU++ [13:22:24] edsu | awesome stuff [13:22:24] ---| ---> abarrera [~abarrera@156-56-59-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:22:26] atz | FluMike_++ [13:22:28] akorphan | Close the blast doors! [13:22:28] anarchivist | The inherent complexity of the dataset explains the low accuracy. The signal properties and quality vary from one call to another and many utterances are directed toward another person rather than toward the system. Also, since the system is being used at night with a wide variety of callers, there are many out-of-domain utterances that the language model does not expect. For example, a caller could yell: “I smoke crack rocks” [13:22:29] jrochkind | FluMike_: you think you could send 100k points to openlayers, without things getting all terrible? [13:22:31] ---| <<-- mcritchlow [~MatthewCr@156-56-58-218.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:22:31] ---| User: *** mcritchlow_ is now known as mcritchlow [13:22:32] pbinkley | jrochkind: no, I'll bet that's too much - better to do the clustering upstream [13:22:33] erikhatcher | FluMike_++ [13:22:35] jrochkind | FluMike_: super neat project btw. [13:22:35] edsu | MrDys in the house :-) [13:22:37] flyingzumwalt | MrDys++ [13:22:38] mjg_ | MrDys++ # colors [13:22:38] akorphan | ... Open the blast doors! Open the blast doors! [13:22:42] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [13:22:42] dchud | ecorrado, librarywebchic: we're sitting WAAAAY too close [13:22:47] jtgorman | I used to be able to distinguish green & red [13:22:48] * davidWalker is ready to RUMBLE [13:22:51] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:22:51] edsu | awesome cheers [13:22:52] flyingzumwalt | cannedapplause++ [13:22:53] mjg_ | wincing [13:22:54] FluMike_ | I'm guessing 100k objects would probably bring things to a crawl [13:22:54] anna3lc | a generous man; he shares the applause [13:22:56] jtgorman | then I saw MrDys present [13:22:56] timmcgeary | davidWalker++ [13:22:58] jrochkind | pbinkley: yeah, I forget if Solr master has some geo-facetting these days. erikhatcher, you know? [13:23:00] edsu | hey no TIE! [13:23:00] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:23:01] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [13:23:03] julia__ | FluMike++ #I assume you're going to post on the Code4Lib listserv when you release the code? [13:23:05] BillDueber | MrDys++ [13:23:08] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-jthcyunzjugfybdg] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:23:08] ---| User: *** skoczko_ is now known as skoczko [13:23:08] timmcgeary | balloon_hats++ [13:23:09] pberry | Honey I shrunk the services [13:23:12] FluMike_ | sure [13:23:13] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:23:14] helrond | i think i know that guy [13:23:15] ndushay | pounding--------- [13:23:19] FluMike_ | I'll try to put something up [13:23:19] atz | i have to believe 100,000 would cripple it... just guessing [13:23:24] edsu | 7_year_itch [13:23:27] ndushay | honey, i'm wearing tubular headgear [13:23:30] robcaSSon | @who hates these cans [13:23:30] zoia | blarg hates these cans. [13:23:35] FluMike_ | I think the problem would be the size of the data going across the network [13:23:36] jrochkind | FluMike_: yes, please share your code even if it's specific to you guys -- sharing your code specific to you guys even would make it WAY easier for me to get started just using yours as a _model_, even if I can't use yours out of the box. [13:23:40] flyingzumwalt | I think that screenshot has lice [13:23:41] timmcgeary | ndushay: it sounds like the sound I heard on my airplane before take off on Monday [13:23:47] ---| ---> willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [13:23:55] FluMike_ | 100k objects would be several megs [13:23:56] mjg_ | what? no huge CMS? is that possible? [13:24:04] ---| <<-- KingNightWolf_ [9c383b39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.57] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:24:05] timmcgeary | who dropped corn kernels on the screen? [13:24:07] blarg | "die milkface?" [13:24:09] freqlurker | back to BBEdit [13:24:11] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:24:16] timmcgeary | MY EYES!!!! [13:24:17] BillDueber | Rainbow? DOUBLE RAINBOW [13:24:19] flyingzumwalt | feel the love [13:24:20] ---| ---> joy [9c383a71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.113] has joined #code4lib [13:24:21] cbeer | so glad i sat towards the front. [13:24:22] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Client Quit) [13:24:24] ---| <<-- pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [13:24:24] pberry | Double rainbow all the way [13:24:25] chelociraptor | hypno -slides!!!! [13:24:26] anarchivist | mjg_: i'm building my next website on top of fedora. [13:24:27] mjg_ | taste the microrainbow [13:24:28] akorphan | whoa, what was in that coffee? am I tripping? is this a stroke? [13:24:31] lbjay | FluMike_: do you need all the fields for each object? [13:24:32] awead | rainbows++ [13:24:32] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:24:33] * BigD cries [13:24:33] ---| User: *** cazzerson_ is now known as cazzerson [13:24:33] ranti | rainbow_slide+- [13:24:41] akorphan | EVERYBODY LOVES HYPNOTOAD [13:24:44] freqlurker | gah! [13:24:45] mjg_ | I think I just got a tan. [13:24:46] blarg | akorphan: it's just a high level of microservices in your blood [13:24:49] timmcgeary | Man, someone needs to do a lightning talk auto-tuned [13:24:51] jaron | MY EYES! [13:24:53] duspal | ALL POWER TO THE HYPNOTOAD! [13:24:54] Baroquem | That's cheerful. [13:24:56] ---| <<-- mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:24:57] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:24:57] anna3lc | colors++ [13:24:57] akorphan | blarg: is that like midichlorians? [13:25:00] mjg_ | timmcgeary++ # great idea [13:25:01] * escowles_ blinded [13:25:01] FluMike_ | lbjay: the only field you really need is the lat/long [13:25:07] joy | radioactice [13:25:08] edsu | microservices_not_new++ [13:25:10] BillDueber | Not sure I'd call taht "micro" [13:25:12] ndushay | mjg++ [13:25:14] ---| User: *** gugek_away is now known as gugek [13:25:16] lbjay | FluMike_: yeah, so maybe you could use my "trick" [13:25:17] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [13:25:22] tbw | not accessable to the colorblind [13:25:22] jrochkind | FluMike_: apparently sending ~3K is no problem, since one of your examples had like ~3K. Clustered of course, but clustered by openlayers, so I guess all 3K are setn to openlayers. that's pretty awesome. [13:25:28] timmcgeary | @karma timmcgeary [13:25:29] zoia | timmcgeary: Karma for "timmcgeary" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. [13:25:30] ---| ---> rickj1 [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:25:30] ---| ---> ASmith [8cb6e4e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.228.227] has joined #code4lib [13:25:33] ndushay | microservices --> modular services? [13:25:39] mjg_ | ndushay: basically. [13:25:45] blarg | akorphan: sort of, except instead of Force powers they just slow all ofyour metabolic processes down in a modular way [13:25:46] pjb1 | no_color-- [13:25:47] cbeer | awfully greyscale [13:25:47] ---| ---> KingNightWolf [9c383b39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.57] has joined #code4lib [13:25:49] anarchivist | ndushay: precisely [13:25:54] ndushay | flowchartt? [13:25:55] FluMike_ | yeah, OL is good with up to 3k at least [13:25:58] chelociraptor | B&W diagram ... ? [13:26:02] mbklein | FluMike++ [13:26:02] mjg_ | though in our explorations, things like storage and ingest are starting to look pretty macro. [13:26:06] ---| ---> pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has joined #code4lib [13:26:08] lbjay | FluMike_: jrochkind suggested i make a more generic version of the query component [13:26:08] bess | How do the Social network dine-arounds work? [13:26:09] gregjansen1 | aka, functional decomposition? [13:26:15] bess | Is there a page for that? [13:26:19] freqlurker | calming blue to angry red [13:26:23] davidWalker | oh the humanity! [13:26:27] * escowles_ was soothed, but now suddenly not [13:26:30] akorphan | FluMike_! We miss you at the conference! [13:26:32] ---| ---> mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:26:38] FluMike_ | the query component is very generic [13:26:40] lbjay | FluMike_: which you don't know what i'm talking about because you have the flu and aren't here [13:26:42] charper | why am I suddenly angry at json? [13:26:43] mjg_ | these slides will be burned into my retinas for weeks [13:26:46] jtgorman | pjb1: wait, you don't see the pink elephants on the slide? [13:26:46] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:26:47] ---| <<-- rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:26:49] scolford | OW [13:26:50] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [13:26:51] mbklein | OW OW OW OW OW [13:26:52] ---| ---> ben_anderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [13:26:53] mjg_ | {++ [13:26:53] ndushay | mbklein-- # no "helicopter" [13:26:54] FluMike_ | you can do a straight up solr query in the url [13:26:55] pyott | blindess [13:26:56] freqlurker | geezus my eyes [13:27:06] ---| ---> joshbishoff [c01190a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.17.144.167] has joined #code4lib [13:27:11] julia__ | fuschia-- [13:27:16] ndushay | what is he calling "chops" ? [13:27:17] freqlurker | no mustache rides here [13:27:23] mjg_ | MrDys++ [13:27:24] FluMike_ | the interface is just a Solr search with the results presented geographically [13:27:24] duspal | An exercise in eye stamina [13:27:25] ---| ---> cwilper [ad579d07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.87.157.7] has joined #code4lib [13:27:26] atz | ndushay: mutton chops [13:27:26] pberry | @google mustache template [13:27:28] * anna3lc loves hot pink and lime green this presentation is tops [13:27:28] zoia | pberry: {{ mustache }}: <http://mustache.github.com/>; defunkt/mustache - GitHub: <https://github.com/defunkt/mustache>; EASY: Mustache Disguise - Printable Template: <http://easymakesmehappy.blogspot.com/2010/06/mustache-disguise-printable-template.html>; Mustache on a Stick - Martha Stewart Crafts: <http://www.marthastewart.com/article/mustache-on-a-stick>; Quick Tip: Using the Mustache Template Library | Nettuts+: (2 more messages) [13:27:29] anarchivist | @ana mustache commuting [13:27:29] zoia | anarchivist: Mouth magnetic scum [13:27:37] mbklein | markdown++ [13:27:38] danhorst | markdown++ [13:27:41] ndushay | atz: no no - what microservice [13:27:42] jaron | html5 [13:27:43] akorphan | I don't know if I can take a technology called Mustache seriously. [13:27:44] tbw | Do you need a mustache to use mustache? [13:27:53] anarchivist | tbw: it helps [13:27:55] mjg_ | has zalgotext been on a slide yet? I feel like that needs to happen. [13:27:57] eby | @love markdown [13:27:59] zoia | eby: The operation succeeded. eby loves markdown. [13:28:06] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:28:07] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [13:28:11] jtgorman | tbw: you can virtualized one [13:28:23] ndushay | omg - "css" is pronounced "sas" ? [13:28:26] pmurray | SAS statistical package? [13:28:28] akorphan | tbw: you can borrow MrDys's [13:28:31] jaron | sass/haml [13:28:31] anarchivist | ndushay: no, Sass [13:28:33] atz | ndushay: dunno [13:28:36] anarchivist | @google sass [13:28:37] mbklein | ndushay: No, there's an actual CSS DSL called Sass. [13:28:37] zoia | anarchivist: Sass - Syntactically Awesome Stylesheets: <http://sass-lang.com/>; SASS-Home of Cowboy Action Shooting: <http://www.sassnet.com/>; sass - definition of sass by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sass>; DHS: Child Mental Health (SASS) Services: <http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=30884>; Jennifer Sass's Blog | Switchboard, from NRDC: (1 more message) [13:28:41] lbjay | "it's like this thing you've never heard of" [13:28:42] davidWalker | cs-- [13:28:45] davidWalker | css-- [13:28:52] bess | awead: Do we have a strategy for telling people about dinner? Or shall we just annouce the restaurant at the breakout session? [13:28:52] anarchivist | @sing the vss [13:28:53] zoia | anarchivist: No songs found by the vss [13:28:54] ndushay | i am sooooo ignorant [13:28:55] ---| ---> _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:29:03] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Bye) [13:29:06] BillDueber | ndushay: s/ignorant/drunk/ [13:29:07] anarchivist | bess: y'all are going to the irish lion, right? [13:29:15] * jaron wants variables for colors in CSS [13:29:18] bess | anarchivist: yup. gonna talk about hydra [13:29:27] dchud | according to my sister (went here in the 1980s) one of the pieces of furniture in the 2nd floor lounge is (or was?) widely known as the Sacred Lounge of Innocence [13:29:28] anarchivist | bess: cool, might come along [13:29:31] gregjansen1 | insert_zalgo_in_other_peoples_slide++ [13:29:32] escowles_ | ignorance can be fixed, drunk is until tomorrow [13:29:34] anarchivist | bess: i need to get my hands dirty [13:29:37] BillDueber | jaron: Any of the css languages (sass, compass, etc) will dot hat. [13:29:40] ndushay | BillDueber: uhhh [13:29:41] ---| <<-- FluMike_ [9802479f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.2.71.159] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [13:29:44] jtgorman | oh nice, Ineed to look into compass [13:29:47] bess | anyone who wants to talk about hydra (or just wants to have dinner with the hydra people) is very welcome at the irish lion tonight [13:29:50] anna3lc | want compass [13:29:50] jtgorman | like the additional abstraction [13:29:55] scolford | jquery++ [13:29:55] anarchivist | jqueryui++ [13:30:04] anna3lc | jquery_everything++ [13:30:12] jaron | BillDueber: i want that feature in CSS itself. tried less, sass, etc. [13:30:13] jtgorman | jquery++ [13:30:14] mbklein | But "crazy hack" is all I know! [13:30:18] pjb1 | ribs++ [13:30:18] akorphan | OMGWTFBBQ [13:30:19] ---| <<-- rickj1 [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:30:21] jstirnaman | that was nice! [13:30:26] ---| <<-- mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [13:30:28] jtgorman | bess: might swing by [13:30:32] gregjansen1 | bess: looking forward to it, conflict w/UNC game [13:30:49] jaron | bess: not great veg*n options there it doesn't seem. might show up later [13:30:50] jtgorman | bess: any idea how many people are interested in it? [13:30:54] ---| ---> mjg_ [~mjg@156-56-58-177.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:31:07] anarchivist | jaron: yeah, that came up when we were thinking about doing a conference happy hour there [13:31:19] duspal | Anyone else using JQuery BBQ? [13:31:19] mbklein | bess: What time? Gotta coordinate with a couple other plans [13:31:27] ---| ---> tzhaya [9c383a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.121] has joined #code4lib [13:31:28] timmcgeary | Google flavored with BBQ? [13:31:32] mbklein | eight_bit_git_logo++ [13:31:38] mjg_ | git++ [13:31:40] bess | jtgorman: no, we don't have a head count yet [13:31:40] anna3lc | 8bit++ [13:31:41] timmcgeary | can I get some hush puppies with that? [13:31:57] abarrera | BigD ate JQuery BBQ [13:31:59] pmurray | Holding all of these components in my head is breaking my brain. [13:32:05] mbklein | timmcgeary: At Restaurant Tallent, you can get pimiento cheese tater tots. [13:32:06] tbw | what if you get BBQ sauce in your Mustache:? [13:32:11] BigD | abarrera: Mmm! [13:32:13] bess | mbklein: 18:30 [13:32:16] erikhatcher | mmm, bbq! [13:32:17] anna3lc | in which MrDys schools us on everything awesome [13:32:18] pyott | slides are a like a Warhol "happening" [13:32:20] erikhatcher | what was for lunch today? [13:32:21] pberry | Heh [13:32:22] mjg_ | MrDys++ # "who wants to do that?" [13:32:24] pberry | Ant [13:32:27] jaron | @who wants to do that? [13:32:28] zoia | tekonivel wants to do that. [13:32:29] mbklein | erikhatcher: carbs [13:32:29] escowles_ | bonsai: microservice macroizer? [13:32:31] chelociraptor | tbw: bbq mutton chops? [13:32:33] timmcgeary | pmurray: you need to re-configure your workstation into a kitchen [13:32:35] dchud | "banzai" is what you say when you're a kamikaze. "bonsai" is a tiny tree. didn't MrDys see karate kid? [13:32:39] ndushay | who wants to have dinner w me? please apply. [13:32:44] highermath_aw | just don't let the ants near your bonsai [13:32:51] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [13:33:22] davidWalker | this is great [13:33:23] ndushay | buffering ... [13:33:25] akorphan | wow, that one is beginning to look like a TRIPLE rainbow [13:33:25] flyingzumwalt | posted information for the Hydra dine-around tonight. Sign up! http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#.22Social_Network_Dine_Arounds.22 [13:33:28] mbklein | That's a pretty slide. [13:33:32] erikhatcher | ouch... "but who wants to do that?" [13:33:35] flyingzumwalt | lemonade++ [13:33:38] ranti | food_flavored_projects++ [13:33:40] bess | ndushay: I want to have dinner with you! I suggest the Irish Lion. :) [13:33:43] ndushay | mbklein: a bit hard to read, though. [13:33:44] timmcgeary | now I'm getting thirsty [13:33:47] maccabee | Most. Useful. Talk. Ever. [13:33:55] maccabee | tool candy [13:33:59] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:34:02] anarchivist | my talk: totally useless [13:34:04] atz | cool idea [13:34:05] ndushay | WOW [13:34:19] ---| <<-- mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [13:34:22] ndushay | anarchivist: my talk - also totally useless. [13:34:23] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:34:27] eby | anarchivist: Should have called yours picking corn out of shit [13:34:29] pmurray | I think I'm going to have to go back and watch the recording of this a few times. Lots of good stuff here. [13:34:29] ranti | very useful tool [13:34:29] BigD | I'm thinking White Castle run tonight... [13:34:33] anarchivist | eby++ [13:34:35] ndushay | eby++ [13:34:36] robcaSSon | eby++ [13:34:40] ---| ---> skome1 [~skome@134.173.14.210] has joined #code4lib [13:34:40] jtgorman | oh wow, flashbacks to doing postscript/pdf type stuff [13:34:41] knickum | pmurray++ me too [13:34:41] maccabee | it's not about the file size, it's about the total number of browser connections needed [13:34:45] bess | eby++ [13:34:45] akorphan | BigD++ tempting... [13:34:47] maccabee | sprites++ [13:34:47] mbklein | anarchivist: I'll work that into the intro. [13:34:50] pberry | Typekit [13:34:54] jtgorman | one giant page and just changing the view area [13:34:54] lbjay | ndushay: don't say that. i actually need to figure out how to do relevancy testing. [13:35:06] freqlurker | lbjay++ [13:35:06] robcaSSon | @quote search dashes [13:35:09] mjg_ | eby++ # speaking of, corn whiskey tonight? [13:35:10] ndushay | i'm choking! [13:35:10] zoia | robcaSSon: 1 found: #1484: "<bowerbird> em-dashes might not seem important,..." [13:35:11] ecorrado | when life gives you sprites, use lemonade [13:35:20] ndushay | ecorrado++ [13:35:21] ---| ---> fresco_ [6de7c1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.231.193.162] has joined #code4lib [13:35:28] ---| ---> vphill [~vphill@156-56-58-144.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:35:31] mlevy | ouch [13:35:32] akorphan | when life gives you lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons. [13:35:32] mbklein | I'm being watched. [13:35:33] sekjal | the eye is watching! [13:35:34] abarrera | he's hypnotizing us with this one [13:35:36] eefcee | yikes! [13:35:41] mbklein | akorphan++ # GRANDMA? [13:35:48] flyingzumwalt | I feel a strange stirring deep down when I look at this slide [13:35:49] tdonohue_ | have I gone color blind in the middle of this talk? [13:35:49] ndushay | optonimicon [13:35:50] * timmcgeary has an incredible urge to eat bacon now [13:35:50] mlevy | you are getting sleepy...sleepy.... you can hear only my voice... [13:36:03] flyingzumwalt | Doctor Who? [13:36:09] pyott | HAL? [13:36:15] BigD | Mordor [13:36:15] * ranti will totally use my screen reader to read his slides later [13:36:18] akorphan | My God... it's full of stars! [13:36:18] ndushay | Mom?? [13:36:18] eby | mjg_: Sure. Also you doing a data storage break out [13:36:23] Baroquem | Top-down view of a man in a hat standing in a wading pool. [13:36:27] robcaSSon | @hussein migraine aura slide [13:36:28] pberry | firebugs++ [13:36:28] zoia | robcaSSon: Im a geniuss headier insular [13:36:28] jtgorman | this reminds me far more of twilight zone/ outer limits intro [13:36:30] pjb1 | frodo, bring me the ring [13:36:37] mbklein | pjb1++ [13:36:41] pyott | Dave, will I dream? [13:36:45] pberry | Derp [13:36:46] flyingzumwalt | "HAL: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye. " [13:36:50] erikhatcher | is that slide moving?! [13:36:51] erikhatcher | woah [13:36:58] ndushay | easier to read on the sides [13:36:59] akorphan | I think my brain is melting. [13:37:04] eby | anarchivist: We're getting a large set of music and other digital only files so would be interested in any digital only talks [13:37:04] ndushay | look left, look right [13:37:05] mjg_ | eby: maybe, haven't decided. [13:37:16] ndushay | two of these people will be leaving thursday [13:37:18] mbklein | MrDys takes the "how would your slides look on a t-shirt?" approach to presentation design [13:37:20] akorphan | pyott: For an interesting experience in disappointment, watch 2001 and 2010 back to back. [13:37:22] pmurray | Yeah, but without a WYSIWYG editor, how do users get content into the JSON files? [13:37:24] ---| <<-- skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:37:26] * ecorrado needs a good way to deal with hours [13:37:27] ---| ---> danwho [IceChat7@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:37:30] ---| ---> gmontane [~chatzilla@2001:18e8:2:32:a14f:7ec4:ee1c:bdd2] has joined #code4lib [13:37:32] robcaSSon | has anyone double-checked these tools? i think this is an elaborate hoax [13:37:34] mjg_ | is the slide moving or are all we? [13:37:42] scolford | pmurray: my question too [13:37:50] pyott | akorphan: I have ... It was sad [13:37:51] ndushay | what's wrong with THIS slide? it's so plain. [13:37:52] * ecorrado has advocated for all services to be 24/7 so I can just write "Open" [13:37:54] robcaSSon | @band add Mustache Lemonade [13:37:54] zoia | robcaSSon: Band 'Mustache Lemonade' added to list [13:37:56] * Baroquem also needs a good way to deal with hours [13:37:59] mjg_ | robcaSSon++ # that would be fantastic [13:38:00] akorphan | pyott: Agreed. [13:38:01] ksclarke | pmurray I was wondering about that too [13:38:04] lbjay | ndushay: needs baby heads [13:38:07] flyingzumwalt | is that the virgin mary on the slide? [13:38:14] freqlurker | my eyes [13:38:16] lbjay | that++ [13:38:21] mjg_ | my goodness [13:38:23] tokeee | I'm scared! [13:38:25] dileshni | this is going to give me nightmares [13:38:27] mbklein | MAKE IT STOP [13:38:27] pberry | This ruined my nap [13:38:27] jrochkind | nobody's going to ask a question until he stops that [13:38:28] ejk | YTMND [13:38:29] eefcee | stop! [13:38:29] decasm_ | kill it! kill it with fire! [13:38:29] dchud | gifparty! [13:38:31] edsu | hahaha, saw that on his facebook page :-) [13:38:31] anna3lc | HELP [13:38:31] abarrera | mrdys++ [13:38:32] jtgorman | i can't look at the screen [13:38:34] atz | phear [13:38:37] timmcgeary | I can't look at the screen either [13:38:37] mtomko | what the hell is that? [13:38:39] akorphan | i think i am dying. [13:38:41] pyott | i won't sleep for days now [13:38:41] mjg_ | not_looking++ [13:38:44] davidWalker | this is the big question [13:38:44] * jstirnaman wishes he would keep saying "mustache templates" [13:38:45] chelociraptor | decasm_++ [13:38:45] duspal | It gets even better over time.... [13:38:46] harvel | MrDys++ [13:38:47] anarchivist | MrDys++ [13:38:47] yo_bj | i've been scarred for life. [13:38:47] maxxkrakoa | kill it! kill it in the face!!! [13:38:48] ndushay | is that Sean up there? w/o facial hair [13:38:48] akorphan | nightmare_fuel-- [13:38:49] bohyunkim | plz stop++++ [13:38:54] ---| <<-- rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:38:56] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:38:59] mbklein | Our poor overseas streaming participants... [13:39:01] robcaSSon | MrDys++ # jackassery [13:39:04] mjg_ | can I open my eyes yet? [13:39:06] ndushay | Sean w/o facial hair + Julia Roberts' lips? [13:39:08] mbklein | maxxkrakoa++ [13:39:13] * mjg_ shudders [13:39:14] jrochkind | hours change more often. winter break hours. summer hours. finals week hours. snow emergency hours. [13:39:22] joy | they're both julia [13:39:25] akorphan | MrDys-- # nightmare generation [13:39:29] ---| ---> mingus [9c383b54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.84] has joined #code4lib [13:39:34] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:39:35] ndushay | FAKE OUT! [13:39:40] mjg_ | Freud warned us about staring into the abyss [13:40:03] pberry | Web sites are never completed, only abandoned [13:40:06] ---| ---> rayner [9c383b3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.58] has joined #code4lib [13:40:08] robcaSSon | @decide baby heads or mustache lemonade [13:40:08] bess | mjg_: wasn't that Nietzsche? [13:40:09] zoia | robcaSSon: go with mustache lemonade [13:40:10] edsu | will c4lj be willing to change their background colors for a special issue, is a better question :-) [13:40:10] jstirnaman | MrDys++ [13:40:16] pmurray | Three ti--i-i-mes a lady... [13:40:17] mjg_ | bess++ # ugh, of course. [13:40:20] ndushay | MrDys++ [13:40:23] escowles_ | edsu++ [13:40:27] lbjay | @reminder 1000 MrDys: hey, you should write that talk up as a c4l journal article [13:40:27] zoia | lbjay: OK. I'll remind you in 1000 seconds [13:40:30] dlovins_ | MrDys++ [13:40:31] pberry | Here comes anarchivist [13:40:32] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: chickmarkley) [13:40:32] atz | jrochkind: http://dorward.me.uk/www/css/inheritance/ # is what i was thinking of [13:40:38] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:40:39] robcaSSon | now this presentation is definitely fake [13:40:40] ranti | MrDys++ [13:40:50] lbjay | sad_oboe++ [13:40:51] freqlurker | sad_trombone++ [13:40:52] ejk | MrDys++ [13:40:52] gluejar | c4lj_rainbow_pages++ [13:40:54] bess | anarchivist++ # just on general principle [13:40:55] mbklein | sad_trombone++ [13:40:56] mjg_ | bess: Freud warned us about some other things that maybe are a whole 'nother topic. [13:41:01] mbklein | anarchivist++ [13:41:03] ejk | anarchivist++ [13:41:06] flyingzumwalt | MrDys++ Please post those slides. My eyes are in withdrawl [13:41:08] timmcgeary | is there an app for that sad_trombone? [13:41:09] lbjay | @fight "sad oboe" "sad trombone" [13:41:10] zoia | lbjay: sad trombone: 34200, sad oboe: 17500 [13:41:16] ---| <<-- blarg [9801bfa0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.1.191.160] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [13:41:17] gregjansen1 | forensics++ [13:41:19] bess | timmcgeary: indeed there is [13:41:21] ndushay | timmcgeary: the app is moi. [13:41:25] scolford | timmcgeary: yes for android [13:41:27] timmcgeary | @ana sad trombone [13:41:28] zoia | timmcgeary: Modern boast [13:41:29] flyingzumwalt | anarchivist++ [13:41:30] escowles_ | pounding----------------------------- [13:41:31] mjg_ | hahah [13:41:35] mjg_ | WAIT FOR IT [13:41:36] ---| ---> jeanrri [9c383a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.92] has joined #code4lib [13:41:40] harvel | anarchivist++ [13:41:41] pmurray | I'm awake now. [13:41:44] pjb1 | csi: new haven [13:41:45] pberry | Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahh [13:41:45] ndushay | is that the sound of our collection? [13:41:45] mjg_ | he spent days prepping for that [13:41:47] ranti | standard_disclaimer_blablabla++ [13:41:50] gregjansen1 | "enhance" [13:41:52] timmcgeary | pjb1++ [13:41:58] lbjay | @horatio it's not always that exciting [13:41:58] ejk | @horatio anarchivist [13:41:58] zoia | lbjay: looks like it's ... /O_O/ not always that exciting YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [13:41:59] pyott | Yale owes Pete Townsend 18 cents now [13:41:59] timmcgeary | csi: library? [13:41:59] zoia | ejk: looks like anarchivist ... /O_O/ YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [13:42:07] decasm_ | i'll use vba to make a gui to track the ip address [13:42:13] flyingzumwalt | @takify CSI [13:42:13] zoia | Č Ṩ Ḯ [13:42:18] mjg_ | pyott++ [13:42:24] paulalbert | I will quickly take off my sunglasses to watch this presentation. [13:42:28] BigD | CSI WhereeverthehellMarksworkingthisweek [13:42:32] akorphan | "It looks like someone tried to put this project" .. (puts on shades)... "... back into the archive." YEEEEAAAAH! [13:42:38] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:42:40] flyingzumwalt | @rate CSI Miami : CSI Las Vegas [13:42:47] zoia | flyingzumwalt: CSI: 8.6; Miami: 8.8; :: 8.6; CSI: 8.6; Las: 9.6; Vegas: 9.1. Las rocks! [13:42:49] ndushay | mjg++ [13:43:00] ndushay | how many of us would be unable to speak if we couldn't move our hands? [13:43:29] ndushay | "do not kick the computer tower" [13:43:30] flyingzumwalt | is he talking about karma? [13:43:40] ndushay | what about Gene Wilder? [13:44:10] jtgorman | bibliographies++ [13:44:14] decasm_ | hmm. i can't seem to resolve those URIs. WORTHLESS!!! [13:44:14] ecorrado | big_book++ [13:44:16] mbklein | @rate "CSI Miami" "CSI Las Vegas" [13:44:17] lbjay | tl;dr [13:44:17] edsu | i wonder if anarchivist read any of these :-) [13:44:18] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:44:19] zoia | mbklein: CSI Miami: 7.7; CSI Las Vegas: 9.9. CSI Las Vegas rocks! [13:44:33] flyingzumwalt | mbklein: thanks for the correction [13:44:35] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has quit (Quit: JodiS) [13:44:37] pmurray | 211 people in channel whoo, hoo us! [13:44:40] akorphan | Is it... MOST excellent? [13:44:42] flyingzumwalt | she voted the same both times [13:44:43] abarrera | 210 [13:44:44] edsu | icanhaz cliffnotes? [13:44:47] mbklein | flyingzumwalt: I am the channel bot "did you mean…" service [13:44:52] abarrera | u just jinxed 1 [13:44:55] mjg_ | perty slide [13:44:57] ndushay | @rate design principles [13:45:00] zoia | ndushay: design: 9.0; principles: 9.2. principles rocks! [13:45:12] ecorrado | @rate "CSI Bloomington" "pounding" [13:45:16] zoia | ecorrado: CSI Bloomington: ?; pounding: 9.7. pounding rocks! [13:45:32] flyingzumwalt | @ana media deterioration [13:45:32] zoia | flyingzumwalt: Radiate dire emotion [13:45:33] akorphan | Did he say "physical ocelots"? [13:45:44] mbklein | He said microservices! <drink> [13:45:44] ---| <<-- fresco_ [6de7c1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.231.193.162] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:45:52] akorphan | @rate ocelots obsolescence [13:45:55] zoia | akorphan: ocelots: 10.0; obsolescence: 1.1. obsolescence sucks! ocelots rocks! [13:45:57] mbklein | dchud: Your screen is hypnotizing me from a row away. [13:46:01] flyingzumwalt | @ana applied methodology [13:46:02] zoia | flyingzumwalt: Almighty dope poodle [13:46:20] mbklein | flyingzumwalt: You just got yourself a new nickname [13:46:26] mbklein | flyingzumwalt: from zoia [13:46:32] ndushay | where's Quincy? [13:46:35] flyingzumwalt | I love it. [13:46:41] flyingzumwalt | can't remember how to change my nic [13:46:44] dchud | mbklein: MrDys's slides reminded me of a processing sketch i hadn't looked at in a while [13:46:50] mbklein | flyingzumwalt: /nick <whatever> [13:46:56] ---| ---> gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [13:46:58] mbklein | @band add Almighty Dope Poodles [13:46:58] zoia | mbklein: Band 'Almighty Dope Poodles' added to list [13:47:05] ---| User: *** flyingzumwalt is now known as almighty_dope_po [13:47:08] akorphan | Hey, distance folks... how are the slides being streamed? [13:47:08] pmurray | Ethical issues out of scope... [13:47:11] paulalbert | ethics shmethics [13:47:22] almighty_dope | aw. cropped nic [13:47:32] ---| User: *** almighty_dope_po is now known as almightydopepood [13:47:36] duspal | commodore 64++ [13:47:38] julia__ | akorphan: What do you mean, how? Like, quality? [13:47:39] almightydopep | hmm. [13:47:40] demiankatz | 1541++ [13:47:40] mtomko | "remove for operation" [13:47:42] ejk | akorphan: they are switching back and forth between speaker shot and the full screen [13:47:42] jstirnaman | i had one of those [13:47:50] akorphan | Aha [13:47:50] ndushay | almightydopepood: ROTFLMAO [13:47:59] akorphan | ejk had hte answer to the question [13:47:59] anna3lc | diagram++ [13:48:01] atz | droid here means something else, eh? [13:48:04] duspal | Though Vic 20 > Commodore 64 [13:48:07] mjg_ | AlDoPoo [13:48:11] akorphan | I can see one of the cameras from my seat and it's framed tight on anarchivist, so I was wondering [13:48:17] pberry | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/iieeldjdihkpoapgipfkeoddjckopgjg# [13:48:33] ndushay | almightydopepood: may we just call you "dope po" ? [13:48:52] mbklein | pberry: That's pretty cool. [13:48:53] mjg_ | DROID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRONOM_technical_registry#DROID [13:48:53] ---| User: *** almightydopepood is now known as aldo_poodle [13:49:05] Baroquem | multiple_cameras++ [13:49:17] mjg_ | uc3_curation_foundations++ # good paper [13:49:18] * aldo_poodle sounds like a character from Agatha Christie [13:49:20] duspal | I started programming in Vic 20 BASIC. Because the Vic was cartridge based, I couldn't save code. I lost everything everytime the Vic turned off... [13:49:25] MrDys | anarchivist++ #for explaining what I did not [13:49:25] akorphan | legos++ [13:49:26] anna3lc | microservices is different from microformats [13:49:27] cbeer | akorphan: they have a video mixing station up front here [13:49:33] ejk | lego++ [13:49:33] akorphan | cbeer: hotness. [13:49:36] ejk | legos-- [13:49:40] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:49:48] * tholbroo saved Vic20 programs to audio tapes [13:49:56] akorphan | ejk: unbeliever! [13:49:58] anna3lc | that media box is cute [13:50:00] mbklein | aldo_poodle++ [13:50:00] ---| ---> personav [80683ee9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.104.62.233] has joined #code4lib [13:50:03] chelociraptor | aldo_poodle: kinda makes me think of alpo poodle [13:50:05] sekjal | make more toys, and link them together. that's how you get coffee tables! [13:50:08] sekjal | or maybe that's just me [13:50:12] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:50:14] anna3lc | anarchivist++ mad attention to detail [13:50:18] ejk | the plural of "lego" is "lego" [13:50:19] * tokeee had a tape drive for the Vic 20... If memory serves [13:50:22] ---| ---> tildeequals [~equals@70-36-140-36.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #code4lib [13:50:31] mbklein | Aldo Poodle is flyingzumwalt's new sock puppet ID for posting unpopular opinions to hydra-tech [13:50:33] * ejk puts on his pedant hat [13:50:34] ranti | aldo_poodle++ [13:50:35] ---| ---> srmiles [~stevermil@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:50:35] ndushay | teeny_writting-- [13:50:36] gregjansen1 | this slide rocks [13:50:37] pberry | Scuzzy [13:50:46] akorphan | ejk: Oh, if you want to get PEDANTIC about it... [13:50:58] escowles_ | ejk: not in my ideolect (legos++) [13:50:58] duspal | tholbroo: I was poor back then (and 4 to boot). We didnt have the tape drive.... [13:51:10] aldo_poodle | Screw accessioning. I hate content. I want to make workflows for deaccesioning. [13:51:14] * mbklein heard that as "…the way the software reddit…" [13:51:15] ---| <--- vphill [~vphill@156-56-58-144.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [13:51:19] * mbklein has to get off the Internet [13:51:22] akorphan | ejk: according to the LEGO group, the term is 'LEGO brick', plural 'LEGO bricks' [13:51:33] pberry | Stop the Internet, I want off [13:51:33] mjg_ | Inspired by yesterday's "pre-note," I've instructed my family not to buy my daughter any toys but rather to donate to the Kuali Foundation [13:51:51] pberry | Haha [13:51:55] mbklein | In my house, the plural of "Lego" is "GO PLAY WITH YOUR DAMN LEGOS" [13:52:00] ndushay | mjg_++ [13:52:06] ejk | akorphan++ indeed [13:52:08] duspal | mbklein++ [13:52:22] eby | @who 's family hates libraries [13:52:22] zoia | wtd 's family hates libraries. [13:52:23] aldo_poodle | Speaking of plurality, what is the plural of Jesus? [13:52:29] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:52:30] escowles_ | neither the lego group, nor anyone else, can control language. if i want to call them legos, i will [13:52:31] ejk | Futura++ [13:52:34] ndushay | mbklein++ # you made my shoulders shake w laughter [13:52:37] pyott | Jesi? [13:52:39] pjb1 | Jesii [13:52:41] duspal | aldo_poodle: Jesi [13:52:44] akorphan | futura++ [13:52:49] aldo_poodle | jesi++ [13:52:50] akorphan | helvetica_neue-- [13:52:50] ndushay | Jesae [13:52:51] mjg_ | aldo_poodle: Santa Clauses [13:53:07] * escowles_ steps off linguistic soapbox [13:53:13] ---| <<-- personav [80683ee9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.104.62.233] has quit (Client Quit) [13:53:14] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:53:30] ---| ---> penneArrabiata [~rcobine@140-182-231-231.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:53:32] ejk | ARROW'D [13:53:34] duspal | -ae is female, -i is male, hence Jesi [13:53:34] mjg_ | escowles_: punk rock lego linguistics icon [13:53:41] mbklein | ejk++ [13:53:42] ndushay | clearly I'm going to have to throw chocolates from the stage to get folks to pay attention. [13:53:43] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [13:53:46] mbklein | SWORD'ED [13:53:48] ndushay | with a bunch of fakeout throws. [13:53:59] robcaSSon | escowles++ [13:54:06] aldo_poodle | Imagining a crowd of Jesae [13:54:07] akorphan | Ow! My I used to be alive a minute agooooo.... [13:54:08] tshearerlib | homestar++ [13:54:10] jtgorman | I think I may have actually used the sleuth kit before... [13:54:10] druthb | ndushay: throw them *hard*; I'm about halfway back. [13:54:25] ndushay | druthb: sit further forward tomorrow. [13:54:25] * jtgorman tries to remember what he used to recover an sd card that got corrupted [13:54:30] julia__ | ndushay: Throw them really hard; some of us are a couple of states away. [13:54:33] mjg_ | digital_forensics++ # need to learn more about this stuff [13:54:38] * ranti also likes presentations that talk about principles and theories [13:54:42] ndushay | julia__ ha ha ha [13:54:44] aldo_poodle | @karma microservices [13:54:44] zoia | aldo_poodle: Karma for "microservices" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. [13:54:45] akorphan | Ooncha ooncha one-two-three-cha, gonna eat a breadtangle of pizza. [13:54:54] ---| <<-- joy [9c383a71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.113] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:54:56] akorphan | ibahn-- [13:55:04] ---| User: *** aldo_poodle is now known as flyingzumwalt [13:55:08] ndushay | free puppies and kittens will be given away at the end of my talk. [13:55:12] druthb | ndushay: sure thing! [13:55:13] edsu | anarchivist++ # this talk is fun [13:55:16] akorphan | kittens! [13:55:18] akorphan | kittens++ [13:55:21] ndushay | (I need motivation to finish it!) [13:55:23] druthb | kittehs! [13:55:26] duspal | ndushay++ [13:55:27] * mbklein used to run FidoNET node 109/610 in the Washington DC hub. [13:55:28] flyingzumwalt | The Almighty Dope Poodle has left the room. [13:55:33] harvel | ndushay++ [13:55:35] bess | yeah, anarchivist++ this is fascinating [13:55:38] ndushay | flyingzumwalt++ [13:55:50] mjg_ | microservices_idea++ calling_everything_microservices_to_capitalize_on_buzz-- [13:55:55] duspal | Im taking that back if I dont get my kitteh [13:56:00] bess | mjg_++ LOL [13:56:01] * ecorrado is considering a nap breakout session [13:56:03] tshearerlib | fiwalkwithme [13:56:07] ---| <<-- tzhaya [9c383a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.121] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [13:56:08] ---| <<-- wtd [~wtd@pat18180.ccs.yorku.ca] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:56:09] ndushay | bess: quit trying to change the topic. [13:56:16] mbklein | mjg_: talking_about_microservices_like_we_understand_them++ [13:56:19] atz | gah, more xml [13:56:26] ejk | XML = drink [13:56:37] lbjay | @ana microservices buzz [13:56:38] zoia | lbjay: Im sic buzz recovers [13:56:41] akorphan | are those F ligatures true ligatures, or is that just how the font is kerned? [13:56:58] ndushay | blacklight!!!! [13:57:07] mjg_ | anarchivist worked on albert finney? [13:57:08] zoia | lbjay: DING DING DING! MrDys: hey, you should write that talk up as a c4l journal article [13:57:10] jtgorman | he's got in his github [13:57:23] cbeer | akorphan: pretty sure they are real ligatures (export from keynote as a pdf) [13:57:23] pberry | That's very cool [13:57:26] charper | Between MrDys and anarchivist presentations, I now have a list of about 30 utilities to play w/ [13:57:29] edsu | woah [13:57:32] akorphan | cbeer: neato [13:57:35] mbklein | gumshoe++ anarchivist++ [13:57:38] flyingzumwalt | https://github.com/anarchivist/gumshoe++ [13:57:41] robcaSSon | anarchivist++ # fun stuff [13:57:43] pbinkley | this was basically dchud's hackfest project at access11 [13:57:49] akorphan | There's a foundry that casts futura in metal type... might need to get some. [13:57:49] ejk | github++ [13:57:55] flyingzumwalt | github++ [13:57:55] ndushay | jetpack++ [13:57:55] cbeer | http://xgumshoex.heroku.com/ [13:58:14] akorphan | they also do univers... [13:58:18] mjg_ | anarchivist: it's actually not 2010, and we do now have jetpacks. Update your slide, plz. [13:58:18] akorphan | univers++ [13:58:29] erikhatcher | anarchivist++ [13:58:33] dchud | pbinkley: fowbar told me after hackfest that our project was basically already covered by this stuff :) [13:58:56] erikhatcher | "blah blah Solr blah blah Blacklight blah blah" [13:58:59] pbinkley | dchud: shows the project was well-chosen [13:59:03] scolford | In space, no one can hear you scream. [13:59:09] charper | named_graphs++ [13:59:18] MrDys | my slides: http://www.slideshare.net/MrDys/lets-get-small-a-microservices-approach-to-library-websites [13:59:27] mbklein | kitteh++ [13:59:30] pyott | anarchivist++ [13:59:30] scolford | mrdys++ [13:59:33] akorphan | MrDys: You expect us to look at them again BY CHOICE?! [13:59:41] ndushay | MrDys++ #posting slides quickly rocks. [13:59:42] flyingzumwalt | Is anyone craving Fruity Oaty Bars now? I think MrDys brainwashed me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doWOdB1d0mg [13:59:46] erikhatcher | where's the url to gushoe on heroku? [13:59:52] julia__ | flyingzumwalt++ [13:59:59] cbeer | erikhatcher: http://xgumshoex.heroku.com/ [14:00:01] akorphan | hey, where's the presenter clock? [14:00:03] lbjay | anarchivist++ [14:00:04] cazzerson | anarchivist++ # really interesting [14:00:06] akorphan | is it on the podium? [14:00:08] jeff | flyingzumwalt: now i have that stuck in my head without even listening to it. [14:00:20] flyingzumwalt | joss_whedon++ [14:00:26] cazzerson | looks like this is the kind of stuff that Simson Garfinkel has been up to these days [14:00:30] * ecorrado has the presenter clock [14:00:37] mjg_ | joss whedon would make a great keynote. [14:00:41] flyingzumwalt | @sing fruity oaty bars [14:00:42] zoia | flyingzumwalt: No songs found by fruity oaty bars [14:00:44] ecorrado | 15 seconds [14:00:53] * ecorrado wants a gong [14:00:54] akorphan | and... time! [14:01:00] akorphan | PWAAAANG! [14:01:02] mjg_ | he may have more important things, like coming up with an awesome show idea just to get killed prematurely by Fox, though [14:01:08] duspal | fruit leather > fruity oat bars [14:01:10] dlovins_ | anarchavist++ [14:01:20] edsu | annarchivist++ # nice job [14:01:21] flyingzumwalt | anarchivist++ [14:01:22] ejk | anarchivist++ [14:01:24] akorphan | fruit leather > fruit PVC [14:01:25] edsu | anarchivist++ # nice job [14:01:31] mjg_ | mbklein: DANCE, MONKEY [14:01:31] charper | anarchivist++ # really really good talk [14:01:33] akorphan | giveaway++ [14:01:34] ndushay | mbklein: sing to us. [14:01:40] gregjansen1 | really cool stuff [14:01:41] pyott | anarchivist - very cool work [14:01:46] ---| ---> tzhaya [9c383a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.121] has joined #code4lib [14:01:47] chelociraptor | anarchavist++ [14:01:53] ranti | anarchivist++ # cool beans [14:02:26] mjg_ | mbklein's_big_internet_holding_hands++ [14:02:28] timmcgeary | mbklein must have really big hands [14:02:45] timmcgeary | or is that the Al Gore version of the Internet? [14:02:53] dlovins_ | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2011_Breakout_Sessions [14:02:58] ---| <<-- jkeck [~Adium@171.66.85.42] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:02:59] jtgorman | "I have the wholeeee net in my hands" *clap clap [14:03:02] flyingzumwalt | I think MrDys burned the projector [14:03:18] flyingzumwalt | the screen looks exhausted [14:03:27] MrDys | retinal workout [14:03:47] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:04:19] mjg_ | way too many for me to suggest the storage breakout [14:04:27] mjg_ | will follow up elsewhere [14:04:32] ndushay | "breakout dinners"? [14:04:34] decasm_ | unbreakout in the unhospitality suite [14:04:35] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [14:04:47] mjg_ | decasm++ [14:04:56] robcaSSon | decasm_: are we allowed back in? [14:05:10] * mbklein should'a just tap danced [14:05:13] decasm_ | robcaSSon: yeah, cleaning lady got her hush money [14:05:18] mbklein | mjg_++ [14:05:25] * anarchivist collapses [14:05:26] robcaSSon | decasm++ hush_money++ [14:05:29] ndushay | it's the pounders!!!! [14:05:33] ecorrado | why? TOYS! [14:05:48] * mjg_ runs digital forensics on anarchivist and discovers excessive amounts of beer [14:05:55] akorphan | let's move beyond moving beyond toys. [14:05:56] mbklein | flyingzumwalt: Isn't the fruity oaty bars commercial supposed to turn me into a precise but uncontrollable murder machine? [14:06:04] anarchivist | mjg_: try running it on robcaSSon and see what you find [14:06:11] mbklein | anarchivist++ mjg_++ [14:06:17] mjg_ | would like to hear "digital library" defined in the presenter's context [14:06:17] edsu | @quote get 1151 [14:06:17] zoia | edsu: Quote #1151: "<david_eggers> We care about doing what we want to do creatively. We want to be interested in it. We want it to challenge us. We want it to be difficult. We want to reinvent the stupid thing every time." (added by edsu at 02:18 PM, January 31, 2008) [14:06:19] mbklein | anarchivist: ERROR CODE 420 [14:06:19] abarrera | BigD didn't reinvent the wheel, he ate it [14:06:27] gluejar | too many notes [14:06:29] flyingzumwalt | mbklein: why yes, that is the purpose. [14:06:30] duspal | dlacy++ [14:06:32] atz | yo, mjg_, was that git thing supposed to be a breakout? [14:06:38] robcaSSon | "digital forensics" sounds too much like a proctologist visit [14:06:44] mjg_ | atz: could be, I suppose [14:06:51] flyingzumwalt | mbklein: how's your flying dragon kick? [14:06:51] mjg_ | seemed to be pretty popular [14:06:56] abarrera | robcaSSon++ # eww [14:06:57] druthb | Say "METS metadata editor" 5 times fast...then drink a beer, and repeat until you fail. Last one standing wins. [14:07:03] agd | git++ [14:07:05] mbklein | flyingzumwalt: Not as good as Summer's, I daresay. [14:07:09] ---| ---> jkeck [~Adium@SUL-AC-MBP-JK.Stanford.EDU] has joined #code4lib [14:07:09] mjg_ | robcaSSon++ # lulz [14:07:14] mbklein | flyingzumwalt: Or Chiwetel's, for that matter. [14:07:15] atz | mjg_, bshum: ok, i'll get a last minute entry on the wiki [14:07:31] mjg_ | atz++ [14:07:32] pberry | davidWalker: You still watching. [14:07:38] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [14:07:43] bshum | atz++ #I'll find you :) [14:07:49] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:07:50] davidWalker | pberry: yeah, in between things [14:07:59] gluejar | data proctology [14:08:07] tokeee | mjg_: You were the one that wanted to store bits, right? Our neightbour office is heavily involved in building a national service in Denmark for that. We're currently using it for storing harvested webpages and recorded radio/television. I only know a bit about it, but I'd love to talk about it [14:08:09] mjg_ | Desc MD is my favorite rapper. [14:08:18] anarchivist | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [14:08:20] anarchivist | http://xgumshoex.heroku.com/catalog/172ee9f33c7d068c674b47a9873ecff9bda85443 [14:08:20] eby | Were there others playing with bagit and git? cbeer ? [14:08:30] mjg_ | tokeee: excellent! [14:08:37] edsu | anarchivist: that was awesome [14:08:37] mjg_ | eby: we are at PSU [14:08:41] mbklein | Are all the breakouts in here and the solarium? I'm working on a quick 'n' easy way to sort people into groups. [14:08:45] ---| ---> tdonohue [~Adium@156-56-59-43.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:08:48] cbeer | eby: only as a toy. [14:08:58] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Client Quit) [14:09:00] MrDys | anarchivist++ [14:09:00] anarchivist | edsu: thanks man [14:09:07] lbjay | @etym broadside [14:09:07] zoia | lbjay: 1590s, "side of a ship" (technically, "the side of a ship above the water, between the bow and the quarter"), from broad + side; thus "the artillery on one side of a ship all fired off at once" (1590s, with figurative extensions). Two words until late 18c. Of things other than ships, 1630s. But oldest-recorded sense in English is "sheet of paper printed only on one side" (1570s). [14:09:13] mbklein | anarchivist++ [14:09:15] ---| <<-- tdonohue_ [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:09:16] robcaSSon | anarchivist:++ # yeah, fun stuff [14:09:18] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [14:09:19] jlhardes_ | mbklein: breakouts can be here, solarium, maple room and walnut room (2 of the tree suites from monday) [14:09:26] BigD | anarchivist++ [14:09:28] pyott | mjg_: didn't he perform with DJ Master Mods? [14:09:32] mbklein | jlhardes_: thanks [14:09:34] edsu | MrDys: yours too, i missed a portion of it though since someone came to my door :) [14:09:34] anarchivist | re: the gumshoe stuff - most of that was hacked on this week [14:09:45] mjg_ | tokeee: I think I will go to the curator's workbench breakout, so let's chat otherwise [14:09:52] bess | anarchivist++ awesome presentation. bravo, sir. [14:09:53] mjg_ | pyott++ [14:09:55] erikhatcher | anarchivist++ [14:09:58] erikhatcher | gumshoe++ [14:10:02] erikhatcher | well done, anarchivist [14:10:04] tokeee | mjg_: Let's. I'm the one with the yellow star [14:10:11] anarchivist | bess: thanks, don't know how i pulled it off with this hangover. [14:10:12] ejk | XML = drink [14:10:14] lbjay | @dunno add Unhand me, sir! Or I shall be forced to write a broadside! [14:10:14] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1127 added. [14:10:21] edsu | erikhatcher: reminds me of that stuff ryan mckinley was doing w solr on top of gis files [14:10:32] ---| ---> librarywebchic [84ae8a51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.174.138.81] has joined #code4lib [14:10:42] mjg_ | @horatio "your object was subjected to" artificial dissemination [14:10:42] zoia | mjg_: looks like your object was subjected to ... /O_O/ artificial dissemination YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [14:10:46] erikhatcher | edsu: yeah... he's still rocking with that stuff [14:10:47] edsu | anarchivist: so you are liking ruby more these days it looks like? [14:10:51] edsu | erikhatcher: really? [14:11:15] anarchivist | edsu: yeah, writing lots of it; doing some for consulting (blacklight), and plus writing homebrew formulas for it [14:11:19] mjg_ | tokeee++ # I'm the one who is widely mocked for unkempt facial hair. maybe that's not a unique descriptor in this room. [14:11:21] pyott | love any talk that includes "magic things happen"! [14:11:32] yo_bj | magic++ [14:11:32] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:11:39] erikhatcher | edsu: http://voyagergis.com/ [14:11:40] MrDys | @diva Catholica [14:11:44] zoia | MrDys: Wicked Jello Fighter [14:11:48] librarywebchi | robcaSSon: what powers http://www.lib.muohio.edu/multifacet/books/cats?sort=relevance&field=text ? [14:11:54] mjg_ | My favorite Catholica album was Ride the Pew [14:11:55] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Client Quit) [14:12:01] MrDys | mjg_++ [14:12:08] edsu | erikhatcher: wow, i had no idea it was that polished now [14:12:09] pjb1 | mjg_++ [14:12:10] robcaSSon | librarywebchic: my hacky drupal-solr module [14:12:12] ejk | Just passed my 6 year anniversary at the library, and every single c4l preso reminds me of how much I *don't* know. [14:12:23] mjg_ | it was all downhill once cliff went off to the big rectory in the sky [14:12:24] erikhatcher | edsu: he's been selling it as a product for quite a while now [14:12:36] * ecorrado just got asked to do a keynote speach at ELUNA [14:12:46] scolford | robcasson: i like your hacky drupal-solr module [14:12:48] robcaSSon | librarywebchic: maybe someone can finally make me github that stuff this week [14:12:53] librarywebchi | robcaSSon: is it open source or just homegrown code not made avialable [14:13:04] edsu | erikhatcher: time flies i guess [14:13:11] * ecorrado wonders if this means he can opt out of another speach. [14:13:15] robcaSSon | not that any of us need another solr app, but who knows... [14:13:16] ranti | ecorrado++ # ELUNA_key_note [14:13:32] ---| ---> talb [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has joined #code4lib [14:13:46] edsu | erikhatcher: he is still using local-solr? [14:13:52] pyott | Batch Attach -- didn't they do the theme music for house? [14:14:06] ---| <<-- dfunk [~dfunk@pool-96-240-172-51.ronkva.east.verizon.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:14:07] mbklein | pyott++ [14:14:14] mbklein | @band add Batch Attach [14:14:15] zoia | mbklein: Band 'Batch Attach' added to list [14:14:25] ---| ---> timmcgeary1 [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:14:25] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:14:28] edsu | @band [14:14:28] zoia | edsu: Privacy, Bought and Sold [14:14:28] ---| <<-- mingus [9c383b54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.84] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:14:29] mjg_ | eby: what were you interested in chatting about re bagit & git? [14:14:40] anarchivist | slides are up: http://www.slideshare.net/anarchivist/fiwalk-with-me-building-emergent-preingest-workflows-for-digital-archival-records-using-open-source-forensic-software [14:14:45] gluejar | this preso is batchin' [14:14:51] mbklein | massive_attack++ [14:14:57] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [14:15:01] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:15:02] mjg_ | @sing dead milkmen : batchin' camaro [14:15:03] zoia | mjg_: No lyrics found for batchin' camaro by dead milkmen [14:15:14] ---| <--- timmcgeary1 [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [14:15:17] mbklein | @blame add You're TEARING me APART, $who!!! [14:15:17] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Blame #97 added. [14:15:18] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:15:19] MrDys | @sing massive attack : karmacoma [14:15:20] zoia | You’re a couple, 'specially when your body’s doubled / Duplicate, then you wait for the next kuwait / LyricsTricky & 3D / Karmacoma, jamaica' aroma (x4) [14:15:24] pjb1 | hey jack, what's happening? [14:15:29] mbklein | @blame 97 yo_bj [14:15:29] zoia | mbklein: You're TEARING mbklein APART, yo_bj!!! [14:15:47] emorgan | Colloquy for iPad. ++ [14:15:48] yo_bj | mbklein++ [14:15:49] ---| <<-- jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jaf) [14:15:53] mjg_ | wish the screenshots took up the entire frame [14:15:56] eby | mjg_: Just curious. Was Playing with a script that listens to couchdb's change feed, bags the changed document and does a git commit [14:15:57] flyingzumwalt | @sing Celine Dion : my heart will go on [14:15:59] zoia | I believe that the heart does go on / Once more you open the door / And you're here in my heart / And my heart will go on and on [14:16:00] mbklein | uh oh…I now worry that "mbklein" is now a permanent part of blame #97. [14:16:09] ---| ---> timmcgeary [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:16:14] pyott | DJ Master Mods -- didn't he sing "slap that batch [14:16:18] flyingzumwalt | @sing Dolly Parton : I will always love you [14:16:18] mjg_ | eby: ah, OK, cool. [14:16:21] zoia | Well, I would only be in your way / And so I'll go, and yet I know / That I'll think of you each step of my way / And I will always love you [14:16:21] eby | mjg_: Just wondered if others were still playing with git or going with the deltas [14:16:27] mbklein | Nope, it's "me," not me. [14:16:43] ---| <<-- talb [8cb6facf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.207] has quit (Client Quit) [14:17:03] flyingzumwalt | @sing leonard cohen : halelujah [14:17:05] zoia | flyingzumwalt: No lyrics found for halelujah by leonard cohen [14:17:08] ---| <<-- sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:17:13] eby | Or bup for that matter I guess [14:17:15] mjg_ | eby: objects in our "repository" are all bags, and each bag is a git repo [14:17:17] flyingzumwalt | @sing leonard cohen : hallelujah [14:17:18] zoia | It goes like this / The fourth, the fifth / The minor fall, the major lift / The baffled king composing Hallelujah [14:17:21] freqlurker | @sing adverts : gary gilmore's eyes [14:17:23] zoia | I'm wincing in the light / The nurses look anxious / I'm just quivering with fright / I'm looking through Gary Gilmore's eyes [14:17:26] anarchivist | @ana milk comes in bags [14:17:27] zoia | anarchivist: As gimmicks noble [14:17:42] ---| <<-- mbach [9c383b0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.11] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:17:45] yitznewton | @hate ie [14:17:47] zoia | yitznewton: The operation succeeded. yitznewton hates ie. [14:17:51] ---| ---> sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has joined #code4lib [14:17:55] yitznewton | @hates ie [14:17:57] zoia | yitznewton: ie doesn't seem to hate anything. [14:18:00] jaron | mjg_: that's interesting about the bags + git [14:18:05] anarchivist | http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Canada-our-milk-comes-in-BAGS/311525587625 [14:18:06] flyingzumwalt | @rate almighty dope poodle [14:18:10] zoia | flyingzumwalt: almighty: 9.2; dope: 6.4; poodle: 9.9. poodle rocks! [14:18:12] mbklein | @sing jrochkind : The Ballad of ngc4lib [14:18:13] zoia | mbklein: No lyrics found for The Ballad of ngc4lib by jrochkind [14:18:15] mjg_ | eby: and our storage service handles all the bagging and versioning stuff, as well as other stuff. [14:18:18] emorgan | @sing dekaub blues [14:18:19] zoia | emorgan: No songs found by dekaub blues [14:18:24] jrochkind | i don't sing that one anymore [14:18:25] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:18:29] mbklein | jrochkind++ [14:18:30] rickj | still lots of room in the social network dine arounds...sign up here....http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#.22Social_Network_Dine_Arounds.22 [14:18:36] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:18:40] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:18:49] eby | mjg_: Service as in scripts ? [14:18:55] mjg_ | jaron: we've just started prototyping but we're digging it so far [14:19:00] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:19:03] mjg_ | eby: service in the prototype phase means python module [14:19:06] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:19:07] ---| ---> dlBarth_ [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:19:12] ---| <<-- spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:19:13] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@mobile-166-137-142-022.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [14:19:16] emorgan | @sing dekalb blues [14:19:18] zoia | emorgan: No songs found by dekalb blues [14:19:22] mjg_ | eby: thinking about how best to service-frameworkize it (that's an architect word), e.g. REST, OpenSRF, etc. [14:19:22] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has joined #code4lib [14:19:23] jaron | mjg_: do you have or will you have shareable documentation on what you're doing? [14:19:28] edsu | anarchivist: did you find yourself wanting to see the content of the files in gumshoe? [14:19:36] KingNightWolf | I need a nap [14:19:47] anarchivist | edsu: yeah - i actually prototyped python indexing code that did some extraction from bitstreams [14:19:56] * timmcgeary needs a nap, too [14:19:58] edsu | anarchivist: or having high summary reports? [14:19:58] anarchivist | edsu: http://github.com/anarchivist/foresole [14:19:58] scolford | re dine arounds - Irish Lion serves leprechaun wings. [14:20:04] akorphan | Man, that's a nice camera. [14:20:07] mjg_ | jaron: no docs yet -- still lots of moving parts -- but we're developing it out in the open: https://github.com/MaxFisher/caps [14:20:07] emorgan | @sing leadbelly [14:20:09] zoia | Well, I'm callin' that Captain,/ / "Turn a-loose my man."/ / Chorus / Let the Midnight Special shine her light on me./ [14:20:12] anarchivist | edsu: the high summary reports are what i want to do next [14:20:19] eby | mjg_: Yeah also thinking [14:20:21] ---| <<-- fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:20:24] jaron | mjg_: cool. thanks [14:20:27] pjb1 | @sing butthole surfers : lady sniff [14:20:28] anarchivist | edsu: i first started prototyping this around the time of DLF in november [14:20:28] zoia | When I say no, yeah, I mean no. / Bernie, Bring me my bacon! Bernie? / From Lyrics Mania [14:20:43] freqlurker | pjbl++ [14:20:43] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:20:44] ---| <<-- ben_anderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:20:44] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:20:49] akorphan | @sing Katamari Damacy Soundtrack : Katamari Na Na [14:20:49] edsu | anarchivist: huh, cool -- it's a really neat idea [14:20:50] zoia | akorphan: No lyrics found for Katamari Na Na by Katamari Damacy Soundtrack [14:20:52] mjg_ | jaron: storage service is here: https://github.com/MaxFisher/caps/blob/master/services/storage.py [14:20:56] pberry | @sing franz Ferdinand : take me out [14:20:56] anarchivist | edsu: i wanted to port the indexing code to ruby to make it consistent [14:20:57] zoia | I know I won't be leaving here with you / I say don't you know / You say you don't know / I say... take me out! [14:20:58] akorphan | sigh. [14:21:05] mbklein | akorphan: NOOOO! My braaaain! [14:21:07] freqlurker | @sing slowdive [14:21:10] zoia | It's easy to pretend / It's easy to believe / There's a shadow on my wall / It dances like my soul, dances like my soul [14:21:20] akorphan | mbklein: MUA HA HA HA HA [14:21:24] ---| <--- tdonohue [~Adium@156-56-59-43.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [14:21:33] pberry | Wow, haven't heard slowdive in ages [14:21:33] ---| ---> tdonohue [~Adium@156-56-59-43.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:21:42] mbklein | Don't make me @unload Sing [14:21:45] sdellis | zoia: alison? [14:21:45] zoia | sdellis: ride the atom train choo-choooooooooooo [14:21:47] scolford | akorphan: that was my ringtone. drove my office mate nutz [14:21:54] akorphan | scolford++ [14:22:00] freqlurker | not allison [14:22:03] timmcgeary | pure Xquery, homy [14:22:08] pberry | So, does karma get reset after the conf [14:22:13] freqlurker | @sing slowdive : allison [14:22:14] akorphan | @sing The Automatic : Monster [14:22:14] edsu | anarchivist: it's somewhat similar to a tool dchud has called Bag o' Matic, which would examing a bag and present stuff about it that can just be gleaned from filesystem [14:22:14] zoia | freqlurker: No lyrics found for allison by slowdive [14:22:14] MrDys | pberry: yep [14:22:16] zoia | akorphan: No lyrics found for Monster by The Automatic [14:22:16] lbjay | i'm taking off after this talk. laterz everybody. see you next year. [14:22:19] pmurray | Generating OAI-PMH via one query. Cool. [14:22:21] mjg_ | jaron: we've also just started fleshing out unit tests specifically for versioning: https://github.com/MaxFisher/caps/blob/master/pilot/tests/versioning_test.py [14:22:22] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:22:23] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:22:27] freqlurker | @sing slowdive : alison [14:22:29] zoia | cause i'm just floating / while your cigarette still burns / your messed up world will thrill me / alison i'm lost [14:22:31] anarchivist | edsu: yeah, i'd be interested in seeing best practices to extract the strings [14:22:31] mbklein | @karma [14:22:31] zoia | mbklein: Highest karma: "mbklein" (439), "anarchivist" (406), and "edsu" (388). Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (mbklein) are ranked 1 out of 3314. [14:22:32] edsu | pmurray: sounds cool, but it probably isn't [14:22:32] scolford bye lbjay. always a pleasure [14:22:32] timmcgeary | lbjay: cheers [14:22:37] MrDys | lbjay: peace out, homey [14:22:40] atz | lbjay: seeya next year [14:22:41] pberry | Is there a trophy for the karma champ? [14:22:42] anarchivist | lbjay: seeyaz [14:22:43] akorphan | ibahn-- [14:22:46] escowles_ | @sing pixies : alison [14:22:47] akorphan ciao lbjay [14:22:48] zoia | escowles_: No lyrics found for alison by pixies [14:22:48] mbklein | lbjay: bye! [14:22:54] anarchivist | @sing kraftwerk : autobahn [14:22:54] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [14:22:55] zoia | Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn / Vor uns liegt ein weites Tal / Die Sonne scheint mit Glitzerstrahl [14:22:59] mbklein | lbjay: travel safe. best to the family. [14:23:01] pmurray | lbjay: Safe travels. [14:23:04] mjg_ | another pure xquery oai-pmh provider: http://code.google.com/p/xqoai/ [14:23:17] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:23:20] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:23:20] emorgan | @sing yellow dog blues [14:23:21] akorphan | @sing Camera Obscura : Suspended from Class [14:23:22] zoia | emorgan: No songs found by yellow dog blues [14:23:23] mjg_ | lbjay: safe travels, yo. don't forget your hat. [14:23:24] zoia | akorphan: No lyrics found for Suspended from Class by Camera Obscura [14:23:34] akorphan | zoia is failing us! [14:23:34] zoia | akorphan: you may want to ask lolita-l [14:23:37] anna3lc bye lbjay nice to see you [14:23:41] freqlurker | @song big black : l-dopa [14:23:41] zoia | freqlurker: put a neckbeard on it [14:23:42] lbjay | mjg_++ [14:23:43] edsu | xml all the way down scares me [14:23:45] MrDys | jpeg2000 in 2011 [14:23:47] pberry | For 11 years even? [14:23:48] freqlurker | @sing big black : l-dopa [14:23:48] edsu | jpeg2000-- [14:23:49] zoia | freqlurker: No lyrics found for l-dopa by big black [14:23:50] lbjay | anna3lc: you too [14:23:51] atz | epub delivery is interesting to me [14:23:53] mbklein | mjg_: Isn't the owner of that project a total d-bag, though? [14:24:06] lbjay | @who is a total d-bag? [14:24:06] zoia | mnotess is a total d-bag. [14:24:07] pjb1 | freqlurker++ [14:24:09] charper | lbjay: safe travels, man. Hope to see ya' in Seattle. [14:24:11] lbjay | zoia! [14:24:11] zoia | lbjay! [14:24:13] mjg_ | mbklein: I don't know. he won't return my emails. [14:24:16] emorgan | @sing hardy : yellow dog blues [14:24:18] zoia | emorgan: No lyrics found for yellow dog blues by hardy [14:24:19] akorphan | @sing Undertones : Teenage Kicks [14:24:21] zoia | Another girl in the neighbourhood / Wish she was mine, she looks so good / I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight / Get teenage kicks right through the night [14:24:22] mbklein | mjg_: That's what I'm sayin'. [14:24:23] jaron | edsu: what's the problem with jp2? [14:24:24] anarchivist | edsu: at the first pass i made at the indexing code [14:24:33] mjg_ | mbklein: I wouldn't want to be judgmental. [14:24:35] morgan8 | Can anyone fill me in on what exactly the "social network dine-arounds" this evening are? [14:24:36] mjg_ | ... [14:24:39] knickum | they all be wantin' jp2 support [14:24:41] anarchivist | edsu: i was using Popen to create a process to call gnu strings [14:24:42] escowles_ | @sing pixies : allison [14:24:43] zoia | where are we now? / horray the blues / of everyone / allison [14:24:54] freqlurker | @sing skids : into the valley [14:24:55] zoia | freqlurker: No lyrics found for into the valley by skids [14:25:00] atz | morgan8: the "don't eat alone you asshole" part of the evening [14:25:01] edsu | jaron: opensource support for jp2 is weak [14:25:01] jaron | morgan8: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#.22Social_Network_Dine_Arounds.22 [14:25:02] mbklein | mjg_: Yeah, maybe he's just busy…you know…um… architecurating. [14:25:04] ---| <<-- bertrama_ [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:25:04] anarchivist | morgan8: i don't think anyone knows for sure - the only one i know of offhand is the hydra one [14:25:14] druthb | morgan8: No agenda for the Tibetan/Thai/Indian place. Just food, chat about whatever. [14:25:16] sdellis | She's the puzzle piece behind the couch, made the sky complete. / Alison's starting to happen. [14:25:17] scolford | morgan8: an excuse to eat and drink with like-minded folk. [14:25:17] ---| ---> ben_anderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [14:25:17] BigD | White castle run tonight added to http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#.22Social_Network_Dine_Arounds.22 [14:25:18] jaron | edsu: right. this is why we only use it for access derivaties [14:25:25] edsu | jaron: and its touted as an archival format, but not many people really understand it very well [14:25:29] jaron | s/derivaties/derivatives/ [14:25:29] pberry | Looks like a cool system [14:25:43] mjg_ | mbklein: digital microarchitecuratecamping [14:25:43] ---| <<-- ASmith [8cb6e4e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.228.227] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:25:43] timmcgeary | asnagy: you should be proud of what you started a Villanova [14:25:44] edsu | jaron: yeah, but your access derivatives need to be usable by something right? 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[14:26:12] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:26:26] asnagy | dlacy++ [14:26:29] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [14:26:36] jaron | edsu: not for creating the jp2 but for serving them up [14:26:38] ---| <<-- bkeese_ [8cb694a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.148.164] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:26:43] edsu | jaron: no source code, and binaries that sometimes mysteriously dissappear from the website sometimes [14:26:47] ---| <<-- codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:26:49] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [14:26:52] jaron | edsu: we could create the jp2 however. 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[14:35:03] akorphan | Maybe next year they'll give away "Programming manufacturing process controllers in FORTRAN" [14:35:18] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [14:35:19] ---| <<-- jillsexton_ [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:35:25] CaptSolo | the Open Source Web Apps book looks interesting. must get one. 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[14:37:18] akorphan | I won't even pretend to know what REXX is [14:37:19] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@mobile-166-137-141-123.mycingular.net] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [14:37:23] sciversedev | if anyone is interested in a breakout session bout opensocial, impact of social media on library technology and research (and how sciverse can help tackle these) we can meet at the tv cam in the back of the alumni [14:37:41] sciversedev | rexx ha old text code [14:37:42] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:37:49] ---| <<-- tzhaya [9c383a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.121] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:37:49] ---| <<-- rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:38:11] sciversedev | cool i did rexx on mainframe [14:38:41] ---| ---> srmiles [~stevermil@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:05] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [14:39:16] * ecorrado is at the DLF breakout [14:39:30] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:32] ---| ---> farfl [~rcobine@140-182-231-231.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:43] ---| <<-- anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: anna3lc) [14:39:44] ---| <<-- _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:39:46] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:46] ---| ---> AndIrc_ [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:39:47] ---| <--- farfl [~rcobine@140-182-231-231.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [14:39:50] CaptSolo | even has an appendix re Visual REXX Tools showing drag-n-drop programming ('la XCode?) [14:40:10] CaptSolo | but that was a while back when OS/2 was alive [14:40:51] sciversedev | visual drag n drop rexx! haha to prove that everything evolves [14:40:52] ---| <<-- AndIrc_ [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:40:56] ---| ---> _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:41:02] ---| <<-- skoczko [~skoczko@conference/code4lib/x-upnsanulxxroboam] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [14:41:11] ---| ---> mcritchlow [~MatthewCr@156-56-58-218.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:41:28] ---| ---> mnotess [~chatzilla@140-182-148-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:41:41] mnotess | these brazil nuts taste like chlorine [14:41:42] ---| ---> tdonohue [~Adium@156-56-59-43.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:41:48] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@mobile-166-137-142-022.mycingular.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:42:05] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: paulalbert) [14:42:37] ---| <<-- skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:42:52] decasm_ | mnotess: i've encountered that before and wondered why [14:42:56] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:43:07] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:43:12] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [14:43:13] akorphan | @sing Raffi : Bananaphone [14:43:14] zoia | Dingalingaling / Boobadoobadoop / Boobadoobadoop / Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Bananaphone [14:43:23] ---| ---> helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:43:31] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:43:40] ---| ---> dmc186_ [~dmc186@156-56-59-51.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:43:56] ---| ---> mounts_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:44:14] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:44:29] ---| <<-- sciversedev [ttgcdx@69.41.165.101] has quit (Quit: Chatmosphere - IRC for Blackberry) [14:44:45] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:44:57] ejk | @ana Boobadoobadoop [14:44:58] zoia | ejk: Boo! A dodo opa bob [14:45:07] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [14:45:07] zoia | I didn't say it. mjgiarlo did. [14:45:22] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:45:24] jbrinley | Funny, my dad's name is Bob, and my son calls him "Opa" [14:45:46] ejk | But is he a dodo? 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Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (rsinger) are ranked 7 out of 3316. [14:50:37] mjg_ | curator's workbench breakout kicking off in walnut room [14:50:46] rsinger | seventh! [14:50:48] ---| <<-- mcritchlow [~MatthewCr@156-56-58-218.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: mcritchlow) [14:51:10] mjg_ | @karma [14:51:10] zoia | mjg_: Highest karma: "mbklein" (440), "anarchivist" (406), and "edsu" (388). Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (mjg_) are ranked 32 out of 3316. [14:51:17] mjg_ | @karma mjgiarlo [14:51:18] zoia | mjg_: Karma for "mjgiarlo" has been increased 314 times and decreased 18 times for a total karma of 296. [14:51:25] * anarchivist is number 2 [14:51:26] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@c-71-62-24-76.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [14:51:36] ejk | Who does #2 work for? [14:51:38] decasm_ | breakout leaders might want to update wiki w/ locations [14:51:39] rsinger | @karma mjgiarlo [14:51:39] zoia | rsinger: Karma for "mjgiarlo" has been increased 314 times and decreased 18 times for a total karma of 296. [14:51:44] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:51:46] ---| ---> jbfink [~jbfink@PC-30523-l.lib.mcmaster.ca] has joined #code4lib [14:52:02] rsinger | @karma rsinger [14:52:02] zoia | rsinger: Karma for "rsinger" has been increased 282 times and decreased 20 times for a total karma of 262. [14:52:14] decasm_ | @karma decasm [14:52:14] zoia | decasm_: Karma for "decasm" has been increased 56 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 51. [14:52:24] mjg_ | @karma mjg_ [14:52:24] zoia | mjg_: Karma for "mjg_" has been increased 54 times and decreased 6 times for a total karma of 48. [14:52:33] ejk | @karma mjg [14:52:34] zoia | ejk: Karma for "mjg" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. [14:52:46] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dlBarth) [14:52:47] mjg_ | need authority control so I can git mah propahs [14:52:51] rsinger | mjg_: that's what you get for hurting the brand of YOU [14:53:43] rsinger | mjg_: of course, even merged, you're not on the medal platform [14:53:48] ---| ---> Babs [9bf60207@gateway/web/freenode/ip.155.246.2.7] has joined #code4lib [14:53:58] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:54:15] mbklein | mjg_: Use one username and you wouldn't have this 'problem' [14:54:20] mjg_ | rsinger: I am if my math is bad. [14:54:22] mjg_ | (it is) [14:54:23] mbklein | @karma mbkelin [14:54:23] zoia | mbklein: mbkelin has neutral karma. [14:54:48] mbklein | @google calc 282+56+54+7 [14:54:49] zoia | mbklein: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. [14:55:00] mbklein | zoia: Google's calculator is an idiot. [14:55:01] zoia | mbklein: cannot we speak like thoughtful adults and not drunken sailors? [14:55:10] rsinger | 282+56+54+7 = ZERO [14:55:19] mbklein | @karma [14:55:19] zoia | mbklein: Highest karma: "mbklein" (440), "anarchivist" (406), and "edsu" (388). Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (mbklein) are ranked 1 out of 3316. [14:55:28] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:55:35] mbklein | Yep. An amalgamated mjgiarlo is in third place. [14:55:44] rsinger | no it's not [14:55:46] jbfink | heh. iii. [14:55:46] mbklein | With 399. [14:55:51] rsinger | you added in decasm [14:55:51] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [14:55:53] jbfink | @karma jbfink [14:55:53] zoia | jbfink: Karma for "jbfink" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [14:55:57] mbklein | I did? [14:56:03] rsinger | yeah [14:56:05] mbklein | Ah, oops. [14:56:05] anarchivist | @ana amalgamated mjgiarlo [14:56:06] zoia | anarchivist: All-time, ga-ga, mad major [14:56:08] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@089-101-189226.ntlworld.ie] has joined #code4lib [14:56:08] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@089-101-189226.ntlworld.ie] has quit (Changing host) [14:56:08] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [14:56:10] rsinger | 282+56+54+7-656 [14:56:12] mbklein | zoia++ [14:56:13] rsinger | er [14:56:16] rsinger | 282+56+54+7-56 [14:56:25] mbklein | I saw some numbers and added them. Screw the labels. [14:56:34] mjg_ | I will take decasm. [14:56:40] rsinger | @karma mbklein [14:56:40] zoia | rsinger: Karma for "mbklein" has been increased 491 times and decreased 51 times for a total karma of 440. [14:56:44] rsinger | @karma rsinger [14:56:44] zoia | rsinger: Karma for "rsinger" has been increased 282 times and decreased 20 times for a total karma of 262. [14:57:03] rsinger | my karma should be 702 [14:57:04] mbklein | Convert my karma to Hz and I'm a perfect A-below-middle-C. [14:57:11] erikhatcher | solr session going on now? whatcha chatting about? [14:57:15] rsinger | because i can fuck things up just as easily as mbklein can [14:57:16] mjg_ | rsinger: ew, you'd take an mbklein? [14:57:21] KingNightWolf | don't know [14:57:27] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:57:46] rsinger | mjg_: call me karma whore [14:57:59] edsu | is there going to be a karma resetting ceremony this year? [14:58:07] mjg_ | rsinger: you dance purty too [14:58:21] mbklein | DANCE, MONKEY! [14:58:23] mbklein | @dance [14:58:23] zoia | o/ [14:58:24] zoia | /| [14:58:25] zoia | >> [14:58:31] anarchivist | @poledance [14:58:31] zoia | | [14:58:32] zoia | o/| [14:58:33] zoia | /| | [14:58:34] zoia | >>| [14:58:34] rsinger | robcaSSon's dollar is framed on my wall [14:58:35] zoia | | [14:58:36] mbklein | Can someone make that look more like a monkey please? KTHX [14:58:40] rsinger | WHERE I STARTED, BABY [14:58:57] edsu | /you know the rules and so do i/ [14:59:04] mbklein | rsinger: http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/i-support-single-moms/ [14:59:56] KingNightWolf | hahahah good one [15:00:07] ---| ---> chuck [8cb6e723@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.231.35] has joined #code4lib [15:00:21] ---| <<-- alxp [~alxp@PC044.ROBLIB.UPEI.CA] has quit (Quit: alxp) [15:00:28] mbklein | KingNightWolf: There's a lot on that site that's just plain wrong. [15:01:37] edsu | erikhatcher: i wonder if they are talking about the need / howto clean ocr on the way into solr [15:01:44] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:01:53] edsu | erikhatcher: i see tom burton-west of hathitrust organized it [15:02:17] decasm_ | tomorrow, breakfast at http://villagedeli.biz/ - leaving hotel lobby @ 7:45 [15:02:22] edsu | what the heck is dlf/clir solarium? [15:02:24] erikhatcher | edsu: he's on to CJ querying fun [15:02:35] erikhatcher | BillDueber: gonna go see Gary speak tomorrow, i think: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/colloquia/colloquia.php?id=770 [15:02:37] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:02:48] mbklein | decasm: I'm so there. [15:02:49] akorphan | We need to come up with some good Solr subproject to call "Solarium" [15:03:13] erikhatcher | BillDueber: IU represent! [15:03:18] decasm_ | mbklein: cool. [15:03:39] ---| <<-- ben_anderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:03:39] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:03:42] BillDueber | erikhatcher: Cool! not exactly on my way home, though... [15:03:51] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:04:04] ---| <<-- bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:04:29] ---| <<-- chuck [8cb6e723@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.231.35] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:04:33] ---| ---> cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:04:35] edsu | erikhatcher: what's CJ? [15:04:54] ---| <<-- Babs [9bf60207@gateway/web/freenode/ip.155.246.2.7] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:04:54] ---| <<-- tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:04:55] ---| <<-- jbfink [~jbfink@PC-30523-l.lib.mcmaster.ca] has quit (Quit: gone gone goose) [15:05:14] mbklein | edsu: re your first question. There's a DLF/CLIR breakout session in the IU Memorial Union Solarium. [15:05:26] edsu | oh solarium is the room heh [15:05:32] mbklein | edsu: yah [15:05:33] edsu | mbklein++ [15:06:04] * mbklein was disappointed that none of the breakout sessions actually involved playing Breakout™ [15:06:05] edsu | interesting to see dlf going into curatecamp style parasite mode [15:06:18] ---| <<-- asl2 [~asl2@adsl-76-217-59-102.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [15:06:18] edsu | or breakdancing [15:06:21] akorphan | mbklein: I want arkanoid sessions next year. [15:06:51] mbklein | I'm still smarting from the Mortal Kombat sessions from 2008. [15:06:52] edsu | mbklein: you are a natural doing the mc things, at least from how it appears remotely here [15:07:13] mbklein | edsu: Thanks. Years of training as a stage performer and shameless attention whore. (cf. @karma) [15:07:15] edsu | mbklein: only comment i have is: MORE FAKE APPLAUSE [15:07:17] BillDueber | akorphan: Breakout! Pong! When *I* was a kid, we had pong, and that was good enough. At least until the Atari 2600 came out, anyway. [15:07:23] edsu | that was awesome [15:07:37] robcaSSon | edsu: you'll be pleased to note he's doing the canned-applause off the stage as well [15:07:41] robcaSSon | mbklein++ [15:07:47] edsu | robcaSSon: hahaha [15:07:50] edsu | mbklein++ [15:08:02] mbklein | edsu: The same app I was using has a button for an "outraged audience" sound like on the Maury Povich "you are NOT THE DADDY" shows. [15:08:20] rsinger | @who is MOMMYDADDY? [15:08:20] zoia | bobbiFromOIS is MOMMYDADDY. [15:08:24] mbklein | Also a big disappointed group "awwwwwww" sound. [15:08:36] edsu | circa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt2i0ts-uck [15:08:59] mbklein | edsu++ exactly [15:09:20] ---| <<-- royt [~royt@132-174-183-6.ip.oclc.org] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:09:23] ---| ---> royt_ [~royt@132-174-183-6.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [15:10:15] ---| <<-- milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:11:09] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:11:54] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:11:58] mbklein | edsu: This was pretty awesome. Watch the video for the full "how cool is this" effect. (Or read the transcript, but the video is obviously better.) [15:12:00] mbklein | http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201001A13.html [15:12:32] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:13:04] edsu | i had no idea roadshow segments were online [15:13:08] * edsu watches video [15:13:12] mbklein | Yeah, it's nice. [15:14:24] edsu | all the way up to cheers, the beatles, holy crap [15:15:02] edsu | surprised it's not worth more than 10k [15:15:28] edsu | mbklein++ [15:15:51] edsu | does cbeer archive that stuff? [15:16:33] mjg_ | edsu: wish you coulda made it, man [15:16:42] mbklein | edsu: Maybe. Antiques Roadshow is WGBH after all... [15:17:47] mbklein | Is anyone currently in the Maple/Walnut breakout rooms in channel at the moment? [15:18:10] wickr | mbklein: I'm in Walnut [15:18:23] mjg_ | mbklein: me too. [15:18:36] ---| ---> yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has joined #code4lib [15:19:01] ---| ---> AndIrc_ [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:19:35] ---| <<-- _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:20:17] anarchivist | mbklein: me three [15:20:19] robcaSSon | pbs iphone app also has lots of roadshow (and other) content...kinda cool [15:21:03] mbklein | wickr / mjg_ / anarchivist: OK, I'll use the channel to ping you when it gets close to "reassemble in Alumni Hall" time. If one of you can pop into the Maple room and let them know, it'll save me a trip. [15:21:05] ---| ---> chuck-e [8cb6e723@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.231.35] has joined #code4lib [15:21:08] mbklein | laziness++ [15:21:11] mjg_ | k [15:21:23] anarchivist | mbklein: we starting again at 4? [15:21:41] mbklein | anarchivist: Yeah, so if y'all want a break in addition to a walk, you should plan ahead. [15:21:45] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:22:30] anarchivist | mbklein: there have been requests for werewolf. [15:22:47] mbklein | anarchivist: oooooh. [15:22:47] AndIrc_ | schedule says 10 to 4 [15:22:51] mbklein | anarchivist: arooo. [15:23:13] anarchivist | @arch believes in the power of curarrooooooooooooooooo [15:23:13] zoia | THE ARCHITECT BELIEVES IN THE POWER OF CURARROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [15:23:43] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:23:56] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [15:23:57] helrond | why is dchud dancing on stage? [15:24:05] mbklein | AndIrc_: Ooh, good call. I thought breakouts ended at 3:50 and we had 10 minutes before the lightning talks. [15:24:08] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:24:11] pberry | He's happy? [15:24:12] dchud | saying hi to adr [15:24:16] ---| User: *** AndIrc_ is now known as jtgormanph [15:24:20] helrond | dchud: nice [15:24:20] mbklein | anarchivist: Apparently lightning talks START at 3:50. Plan accordingly. [15:24:35] anarchivist | mbklein: got it [15:24:42] ---| <<-- mounts_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:24:51] mbklein | @quote adr [15:24:52] zoia | mbklein: difficulty: I started with AlcoholPoisoning and don't know much Python. [15:24:59] dchud | helrond: though that wasn't exactly dancing. wanna see me moonwalk? [15:25:09] helrond | dchud: obviously [15:25:13] mbklein | @help quote [15:25:13] zoia | mbklein: Error: There is no command "quote". [15:25:27] mbklein | @what happened to @quote? [15:25:28] zoia | mbklein: please forward your request to the appropriate tribal leader [15:25:32] anarchivist | @quote random [15:25:32] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #473: "<edsu> is there really an on-topic for in here?" (added by ksclarke at 12:10 PM, October 17, 2006) [15:25:47] robcaSSon | @quote search assholes [15:25:52] zoia | robcaSSon: 3 found: #1425: "< MrDys> way to duplicate E-MAIL, assholes", #2396: "<anarchivist> syntactic sugar is for assholes", and #366: "Most developers are morons, and the rest are..." [15:26:03] anarchivist | @ana like licking a goat's asshole [15:26:04] zoia | anarchivist: Goatlike, logical shakiness [15:26:16] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:26:27] eby | @Ana assholes all the way down [15:26:28] zoia | eby: Wealthy as hallowed sons [15:26:36] ---| ---> mounts_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:26:36] mjg_ | anarchivist: WHY? [15:26:59] ---| <<-- yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:27:18] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:27:36] mbklein | @sing John Cale : Pablo Picasso [15:27:37] zoia | mbklein: No lyrics found for Pablo Picasso by John Cale [15:27:37] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914120618]) [15:27:52] anarchivist | @sing the modern lovers : pablo picasso [15:27:53] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for pablo picasso by the modern lovers [15:27:53] ---| <<-- williw [~williw@office.canadiana.ca] has quit (Quit: williw) [15:28:03] anarchivist | @sing jonathan richman : pablo picasso [15:28:04] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for pablo picasso by jonathan richman [15:28:05] mbklein | sing-- [15:28:13] anarchivist | zoia: fu [15:28:14] zoia | anarchivist: HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR? [15:28:30] edsu | mbklein: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Laugh_track&action=historysubmit&diff=412972135&oldid=411697665 :-) [15:29:06] mbklein | edsu++ givin' it back [15:30:22] ---| <<-- cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [15:31:27] akorphan | @karma ibahn [15:31:27] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "ibahn" has been increased 0 times and decreased 11 times for a total karma of -11. [15:31:33] akorphan | ibahn-- [15:31:36] akorphan | NEVER FORGET [15:32:54] anarchivist | @sing kraftwerk : autobahn [15:32:56] zoia | Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn / Vor uns liegt ein weites Tal / Die Sonne scheint mit Glitzerstrahl [15:33:06] erikhatcher | @ana autobahn [15:33:06] zoia | erikhatcher: Aha! On but [15:33:07] pberry | Repetition! [15:33:14] eby | mbklein: Should lightning talk people be back sooner [15:33:18] anarchivist | @translationparty --lang de [sing kraftwerk : autobahn] [15:33:19] robcaSSon | @pirate [sing kraftwerk : autobahn] [15:33:30] robcaSSon | @who will win [15:33:31] zoia | We drive on the highway / Before us lies a wide valley / The sun is shining with glittering rays [15:33:32] zoia | mnotess will win. [15:33:33] zoia | robcaSSon: Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn / Vor uns liegt ein weites Tal / Die Sonne scheint mit Glitzerstrahl [15:33:39] ---| ---> zoia_commits [~zoia_comm@sh1-ext.rs.github.com] has joined #code4lib [15:33:39] zoia_commits | supybot-plugins: master Michael Klein * e721d4c (1 files in 1 dirs): Added simple "Where's my code?" support to Git plugin - http://bit.ly/eB5Gis [15:33:39] ---| <--- zoia_commits [~zoia_comm@sh1-ext.rs.github.com] has left #code4lib () [15:33:40] zoia | zoia_commits: Don't you mean <https://github.com/gsf/supybot-plugins/commit/e721d4caf8db86d0842d8675738e8d1f7f516b3f>? [15:33:42] mbklein | eby: Yes. [15:33:45] mbklein | Actually. [15:34:17] mbklein | I'll make an announcement in here. [15:34:39] mbklein | anarchivist: CAn you poke your head into Maple & Walnut and ask anyone who's doing a lightning talk to come put their slides/content on the podium computer ASAP? [15:34:47] mbklein | @reload Git [15:34:47] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [15:34:48] anarchivist | mbklein: on it [15:34:49] mbklein | @git repo [15:34:50] zoia | mbklein: sorry, i'm only accepting shovel-ready projects these days [15:34:53] mbklein | @repo [15:34:54] ---| <<-- milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [15:34:54] zoia | mbklein: i'll add that to my brainstorming mind map [15:34:57] mbklein | @list git [15:34:57] zoia | mbklein: commits [15:35:03] yitznewton | pothole detection iphone app: http://bit.ly/h3GUFP [15:35:03] zoia | yitznewton: I believe you're referring to <http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/02/09/weapons_in_the_battle_vs_potholes/> [15:35:08] mbklein | @commits [15:35:08] zoia | [2011-02-09 12:33:15] [mbklein] Added simple "Where's my code?" support to Git plugin [15:35:29] yitznewton | zoia: I was actually referring to yo mama [15:35:30] zoia | yitznewton: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (by pleasing the Old One Cthulhu through self-flagellation and ritual sacrifice) or add a hostmask matching the IP address range assigned to Great City of R'lyeh. [15:35:38] ---| ---> jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:35:55] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [15:36:08] mbklein | @reload Git [15:36:08] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [15:36:14] edsu | @list Git [15:36:15] zoia | edsu: commits [15:36:23] edsu | commits [15:36:28] edsu | @commits [15:36:28] zoia | [2011-02-09 12:35:40] [mbklein] Removed errant argument from @repo [15:36:34] mbklein | @reload Git [15:36:34] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [15:36:37] mbklein | @list Git [15:36:37] zoia | mbklein: commits [15:36:40] mbklein | weird. [15:36:48] ---| ---> zoia_commits [~zoia_comm@sh1-ext.rs.github.com] has joined #code4lib [15:36:48] zoia_commits | supybot-plugins: master Michael Klein * bfb42f4 (1 files in 1 dirs): Removed errant argument from @repo - http://bit.ly/dNmzFa [15:36:48] ---| <--- zoia_commits [~zoia_comm@sh1-ext.rs.github.com] has left #code4lib () [15:36:48] edsu | @help commits [15:36:48] zoia | zoia_commits: C'mon, <https://github.com/gsf/supybot-plugins/commit/bfb42f4eb4e02119194c32fabf2b21670babee20> is where it's really at. [15:36:49] mbklein | I'll deal later. Got emceeing to do. [15:36:50] zoia | edsu: (commits [--author author] [--repo repo] [--branch branch] [--show number] [query]) -- Display the last <number> log messages matching <query> from <author>'s commits to <branch> of <repo> on github [15:36:53] mbklein | There we go. [15:36:56] mbklein | @reload Git [15:36:56] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [15:36:58] mbklein | @list Git [15:36:58] zoia | mbklein: commits [15:37:00] mbklein | dammit [15:37:05] mbklein | f u zoia [15:37:09] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:37:10] mjg_ | @sing Sir Commits-a-lot : baby git back [15:37:11] zoia | mjg_: No lyrics found for baby git back by Sir Commits-a-lot [15:37:28] anarchivist | @ana repositorista [15:37:28] zoia | anarchivist: Praise to riots [15:37:59] ---| ---> Eleb [8cb696d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.150.212] has joined #code4lib [15:38:13] ---| <<-- helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: helrond) [15:38:26] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Client Quit) [15:38:26] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [15:39:05] edsu | @sing pavement : grave architecture [15:39:06] zoia | Come on in / Grave architecture / Grave architecture [15:39:36] * davidWalker comes back-up from watching maury povich clips on youtube [15:39:42] davidWalker | whooo [15:39:48] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:39:59] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: paulalbert) [15:40:22] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ecorrado) [15:40:40] ---| <<-- KingNightWolf [~shwaish@156-56-59-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: KingNightWolf) [15:40:51] ---| ---> zfaqr2 [ad579d07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.87.157.7] has joined #code4lib [15:40:54] robcaSSon | davidWalker: were you the father? [15:41:08] * davidWalker dances [15:41:14] davidWalker | NOT! 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[15:53:35] anarchivist | anarchivist-- [15:53:42] anarchivist | anarchivist-- [15:53:43] anarchivist | anarchivist-- [15:53:45] eefcee | live_stream++ # working fine in MN [15:53:51] knickum | @karma anarchivist [15:53:51] zoia | knickum: Karma for "anarchivist" has been increased 431 times and decreased 28 times for a total karma of 403. [15:53:54] ---| ---> duspal [~david_usp@153.104.2.83] has joined #code4lib [15:54:05] erikhatcher | live_stream++ # lakeside, VA [15:54:07] knickum | anarchivist: 403 to go [15:54:10] ejk | live_stream++ [15:54:11] tomkeays | http://codabox.org/ [15:54:19] mbklein | anarchivist's karma: 403 UNAUTHORIZED [15:54:23] pbinkley | will he change the url when he gets a new cat? 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[15:55:33] ---| <<-- bshum [~bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bts] has quit (Quit: Goodbye World) [15:55:33] mjg_ | lolcoda_box++ [15:55:34] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:55:35] mbklein | anarchivist: Fork Queue [15:55:43] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:55:48] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [15:55:48] anarchivist | http://derangementanddescription.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/comic8.jpg [15:55:49] jaf | cat performance - wait for it [15:55:50] mbklein | (my favorite button on Github. Very cathartic.) [15:55:53] rjhoyle | http://www.eprints.org/ [15:55:54] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:55:56] ruebot | dchud: ORLY!? [15:55:56] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [15:55:58] jaf | oooh, cat experiment [15:56:05] ---| ---> tburtonw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [15:56:07] dchud | dileshni: hey, are you still working w/marklogic at KO? want to introduce you to ntra from LC... [15:56:07] ndushay | mbklein: cat-hartic [15:56:08] sesuncedu | anarchivist: I think I have a picture of a cue cat on "post some fucking catalogers!" [15:56:17] ---| ---> codemart [9c383ab4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.180] has joined #code4lib [15:56:19] jtgorman | mjg++ [15:56:26] knickum | you might say these puns are un-bear-able [15:56:31] dileshni | dchud: yes i am [15:56:33] dchud | ruebot: heh something about the spellings :) cuebot, ruecat, etc. [15:56:33] ---| ---> yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has joined #code4lib [15:56:35] mbklein | Where's that I R SRS LIBRARIAN pic? [15:56:35] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [15:56:50] anarchivist | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1056/1359793351_00506df1e5.jpg [15:56:53] dchud | dileshni: cool, if it's okay with you, maybe we can find each other after the lightning storm breaks? [15:56:58] mjg_ | I keep putting documents into this schrödinger_box repo but I can't seem to get them out. [15:57:12] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:57:15] jaron1 | mjgiarlo++ [15:57:17] mbklein | Thundersnow Talks [15:57:21] jaf | mjg_: how's your quantum repo doing? [15:57:23] mjg_ | tokeee++ [15:57:25] mbklein | @danify this talk [15:57:25] zoia | mbklein: Thḯs Tålksen [15:57:27] dileshni | dchud: sure [15:57:28] freqlurker | what happened to the small scale koha? was that it? [15:57:29] anarchivist | danes++ [15:57:29] ejk | sudo_make_me_a_sandwich++ [15:57:30] ---| ---> timmcgeary [~Adium@156-56-58-238.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:57:33] duspal | denmark++ [15:57:39] yo_bj | mbklein: somewhere in http://community.livejournal.com/lolbrarians [15:57:39] pbinkley | ecorrado++ [15:57:40] dileshni | dchud: i'll try to find you after the talks [15:57:43] anna3lc | xoxoxo++ [15:57:44] mjg_ | jaf: it's powered by microservices that exist in heretofore unknown dimensions [15:57:45] BigD | Star bellied sneech! [15:57:46] atz | very buzzy phrase [15:57:46] mbklein | yo_bj++ [15:57:48] edsu | shoot, not sure what happened to my livestream but i'm locked out :( maybe it's for the best that my snarkiness will be reigned in :-) [15:57:49] jtgorman | mjg_: funny, I don't write my own papers, I just take them out of my schrödinger_box repo. I guess it's all about expectations [15:57:53] mbklein | screenshot++ [15:58:01] BillDueber | Bastards stole my design! [15:58:01] jaf | mjg_: I tried looking at an item in it the other day, but when I did, it disappeared [15:58:01] davidWalker | nice [15:58:01] dchud | dileshni: awesome thx. i'm sitting way up in the front :) [15:58:02] timmcgeary | photo_screenshots++ [15:58:05] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:58:13] anarchivist | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/497495149_99e85c2504_o.jpg [15:58:19] edsu | oh no, here we go (cool) [15:58:19] ---| <<-- ruebot [~ruebot@xenu.lib.McMaster.CA] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:58:25] mjg_ | @hussein sea of summon [15:58:26] zoia | mjg_: One famous mushiness [15:58:27] mbklein | anarchivist++ [15:58:28] timmcgeary | @ana sea of summon [15:58:28] zoia | timmcgeary: So famous men [15:58:35] mattriehle | xkcd_shirt++ [15:58:36] erikhatcher | @takify Toke [15:58:36] zoia | Ŧ Ǒ K É [15:58:38] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:58:46] mbklein | disintegrated_search++ [15:58:50] pberry | The whale! [15:58:50] ---| ---> gravm [~gravm@aaladm17.lib.unc.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:58:55] atz | interleave-- [15:58:55] mbklein | ARROW'D! [15:58:56] jaf | @sing the national : i summon you [15:58:57] ejk | Better a sea of summon than a sum of... [15:58:57] zoia | jaf: No lyrics found for i summon you by the national [15:59:01] mjg_ | jaf: maybe if we had some mellon funding, we could fix that [15:59:04] ---| <<-- JimL_ [8cb696d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.150.212] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [15:59:09] dchud | @sing spoon : i summon you [15:59:10] zoia | I need a release / The signal's a cough / But that don't get me off / I summon you to appear my love [15:59:18] knickum | egad ejk++ [15:59:23] jaf | dchud: yeah, that too! :-p [15:59:27] erikhatcher | s/iintegrated/federated/ ? [15:59:30] dchud | @sing the national : abel [15:59:31] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [15:59:32] zoia | dchud: No lyrics found for abel by the national [15:59:35] dchud | awwww [15:59:36] sesuncedu | Danish stuff == Bacon? [15:59:39] robcaSSon | ejk++ # awful [15:59:46] ndushay | is that tokeee? [15:59:49] * dchud 's mind's not right [15:59:50] mbklein | mjg_: If only we could get Kochief running on opensrf.rb, we could fix ALL of this. [15:59:52] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [15:59:55] pberry | Abel c'mon man, give me the keys now [16:00:00] mjg_ | dchud, c'mon, gimme the ssh keys, man. [16:00:08] ranti | summa_summon_merging++ [16:00:11] ---| ---> asl2 [~asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [16:00:11] anarchivist | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/210/484327110_59a8d24118_o.jpg [16:00:12] * davidWalker lolz [16:00:24] edsu | these_slides++ [16:00:29] dchud | pberry, mjg_: select * from everything where all = 'gone wrong'; [16:00:30] sesuncedu | anarchivist: http://community.livejournal.com/lolbrarians/23368.html [16:00:35] mjg_ | teh_danez++ [16:00:40] KingNightWolf | this is awesome !! [16:00:45] timmcgeary | can you afford a pregnant pause in a 5 minute lightning talk? [16:00:45] anarchivist | sesuncedu++ [16:00:53] MrDys | I hate how design is just built-in to Danish DNA [16:00:54] ---| ---> jerms_ [8cb6f8c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.199] has joined #code4lib [16:00:58] edsu | is teh_nagy there this year? [16:01:00] MrDys | lucky [16:01:01] ---| ---> abugseye [48a40672@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.164.6.114] has joined #code4lib [16:01:01] dchud | agreed - this is awesome, love the slides [16:01:02] ---| ---> gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [16:01:03] anarchivist | edsu: yessir [16:01:10] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [16:01:10] atz | whoa! [16:01:13] asnagy | clever_math++ [16:01:14] mjg_ | showing_math++ [16:01:16] ---| <<-- dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:01:17] ejk | clever_math++ [16:01:17] was | ouch ouch ouch [16:01:18] pberry | @sing The National : mr. November [16:01:24] harvel | lobby_math++ [16:01:24] zoia | pberry: No lyrics found for mr. November by The National [16:01:25] edsu | lol [16:01:31] yo_bj | Whats the MP cost of Summon? [16:01:32] mjg_ | tokeee++ other_dane++ [16:01:37] knickum | lobby_math++ [16:01:40] mjg_ | all_danes++ [16:01:42] timmcgeary | is there precedent for lightning talk encore call? [16:01:46] mjg_ | dana_dane++ [16:02:02] KingNightWolf | encore4libs [16:02:04] anarchivist | all_dane_everything++ [16:02:04] atz | timmcgeary: not really... maybe a subsequent day breakout session [16:02:04] freqlurker | taylor_dane+- [16:02:13] ---| ---> jwd [814f221d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.79.34.29] has joined #code4lib [16:02:17] ryscher | magic_danish++ [16:02:20] davidWalker | great presentation! [16:02:21] edsu | &clap; [16:02:26] maccabee_ | awesome [16:02:27] atz | danish_dudes++ [16:02:28] anarchivist | toke_and_baby++ [16:02:30] timmcgeary | I would hate to follow that [16:02:38] mbklein | elm++ [16:02:39] eefcee | mads_toke_baby++ [16:02:39] ---| User: *** maccabee_ is now known as maccabee [16:02:42] mjg_ | babies++ [16:02:43] mbklein | toke++ [16:02:48] ---| ---> alxp [~aoneill@blk-30-155-121.eastlink.ca] has joined #code4lib [16:02:50] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:06] atz | timmcgeary: i got to follow simon's MARChthulu talk... [16:03:16] MrDys | imminent mic feedback [16:03:17] tokeee | Thanks guys, we love you! [16:03:18] sesuncedu | Ball Lightning Pilot Test [16:03:21] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:24] dlovins | mic_feedback-- [16:03:27] escowles | marcthulu++ [16:03:32] erikhatcher | nice merge viz! [16:03:37] MrDys | atz: you did great, you showed off why ndas are stupid [16:03:42] cbeer | sound_guy++ # amazed it hasn't gotten really nasty yet [16:03:52] ---| <<-- hdl [~hdl@bon13-4-88-179-14-129.fbx.proxad.net] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:03:54] mjg_ | hot_mic-- [16:03:57] anarchivist | jeffrey_beall-- [16:04:05] mnotess | reverb [16:04:06] timmcgeary | tokeee++ [16:04:07] cbeer | she's too far away [16:04:08] mbklein | Free Blacklight T-Shirt for the first person to rush the mic, throw a goat, and yell, "HELLO, CODE4LIB!!! WE LOVE YOU!!!" [16:04:11] timmcgeary | hot_mic-- [16:04:17] edsu | JITWebArchiving++ [16:04:17] mjg_ | are they piping her through a jazzmaster pickup? [16:04:24] yo_bj | jeffrey_beall-- [16:04:25] MrDys | mjg_++ [16:04:27] mbklein | Not during someone else's talk, of course. [16:04:29] atz | MrDys: thx. yeah, i remember ppl made the same comment about "hate to follow that guy", but it turned out fine [16:04:37] mjg_ | CDL++ [16:04:38] ---| <<-- milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:04:45] * BillDueber heard the lead engineer from bit.ly on NPR talking about how they can kinda track stuff in realtime based on what's going through their service. [16:04:48] ---| ---> checkingitout [9c383a76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.118] has joined #code4lib [16:04:55] escowles | "throw a goat" -- is that what they call it these days? [16:05:07] BillDueber | escowles: "have a cow" is so 1980's [16:05:07] mjg_ | atz: yeah, your lightning talk was punk rock. [16:05:11] anarchivist | @takify [sing bolt thrower] [16:05:15] zoia | Ṅ Ǭ   ℒ Ỷ Ŗ Í Ḉ Ṩ   Ƒ Ȏ Ų Ņ Ď   ℱ Ø Ṛ   Ṯ Ḥ Ḝ   Ƥ Ė Ễ Ļ   Ŝ Ė Ŝ Ṥ Ĭ Ŏ Ň Ŝ   1 9 8 8 - 1 9 9 0   Ɓ Ý   Ɓ Ồ Ḹ Ƭ   Ţ Ḩ Ř Ṍ Ẅ Ẻ Ṛ [16:05:16] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:05:18] mjg_ | nice to follow horror-glam with punk rock [16:05:19] mbklein | escowles: If you're talking about the thumb-and-pinky gesture, yes. [16:05:19] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [16:05:24] robcaSSon | escowles: i think it's some "puppetry of the penis" reference [16:05:26] jtgorman | yo_bj: I'm scared to ask what he's done now... [16:05:46] ndushay | is in-order talk list anywhere? [16:05:50] mjg_ | robcaSSon++ [16:05:53] atz | the next versinon must be called WAS NOT WAS [16:05:56] mtomko | Is there a link somewher to the work Mads and Toke just talked about? [16:05:58] sesuncedu | delicious is not opportunistic [16:05:59] decasm_ | jrochkind: still up for finch's? anyone else? lobby @ 6ish? [16:06:01] MrDys | mjg_++ [16:06:02] ---| <<-- libzig [~libzig@192.146.192.106] has quit () [16:06:03] mnotess | @ana opportunistic selection sources [16:06:04] zoia | mnotess: Repetitious repulsion concocts [16:06:07] ---| ---> sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has joined #code4lib [16:06:11] ---| ---> alek_br [~alek_br@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-2675.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [16:06:20] jrochkind | decasm: Can ndushay and BillDueber come? If so, yes! [16:06:21] atz | tokeee: got links? [16:06:27] wickr | ndushay: not yet, they seem to have changed the order slightly [16:06:29] anarchivist | mtomko: they have stuff on summa up, but not sure about the summon integration [16:06:35] mjg_ | dchud: you have successfully earwormed me w/ Abel. Not complaining. [16:06:43] wickr | dchud++ [16:06:44] MrDys | decasm_: can I jump in? [16:06:50] mtomko | ah... sorry I wasn't sure if they were in the channel. [16:06:50] mjg_ | abelroll'd [16:06:52] yo_bj | jtgorman: http://www.examiner.com/metadata-in-national/review-of-diane-hillmann-s-keynote-at-code4lib-2011-review [16:06:58] anarchivist | jeffrey_beall-- [16:06:59] anarchivist | jeffrey_beall-- [16:07:00] anarchivist | jeffrey_beall-- [16:07:01] anarchivist | jeffrey_beall-- [16:07:02] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:07:12] decasm_ | jrochkind, BillDueber, ndushay, MrDys more = merrier [16:07:21] ndushay | decasm: who are you? [16:07:22] ranti | who is the current speaker? [16:07:24] cbeer | decasm: i'm in -- finch's was great last time i was here [16:07:26] jaron1 | anyone interested in getting together for veg*n dining tonight? don't have a suggestion for a place myself, but would like to go to a vegan-friendly place [16:07:29] mbklein | anarchivist: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#Werewolf.21 [16:07:33] decasm_ | devon smith [16:07:35] ndushay | decasm: what is finch's? [16:07:36] ---| <<-- alek_br [~alek_br@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-2675.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:07:37] anna3lc | ranti: tracy? [16:07:38] mjg_ | anarchivist, MrDys, mbklein: we should write and perform a posse rap about microservices and repos [16:07:42] ndushay | decasm: I'm in. [16:07:43] jaf | @sing martika : toy soldiers [16:07:44] * BillDueber doesn't even know finches. Exciting! [16:07:45] zoia | Step by step / Heart to heart / Left right left / We all fall down like toy soldiers [16:07:46] decasm_ | ndushay: decasm = devon smith [16:07:47] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [16:07:47] mbklein | decasm: finch's was really good [16:07:50] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:07:53] anna3lc | ranti: yes, tracy. [16:07:55] cbeer | http://www.finchsbrasserie.com/ [16:08:04] decasm_ | http://www.finchsbrasserie.com/ [16:08:05] bohyunkim | ranti: tracy seneca I think from CDL [16:08:05] ---| ---> srmiles [~stevermil@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:08:09] sesuncedu | DLF [16:08:10] sesuncedu | DLF [16:08:10] MrDys | alll you sucka mc's ain't got nothing on repos [16:08:12] mbklein | mjg_: What rhymes with CheckM? [16:08:12] sesuncedu | DLF [16:08:14] sesuncedu | eternal [16:08:15] robcaSSon | how big is finch's? i was planning on going to Little TIbet....but i've got a couple more nights [16:08:18] ndushay | i'll be sure to wear my bacon clothing. [16:08:18] anarchivist | mbklein++ [16:08:20] highermath | decasm: finch's++ [16:08:30] ecorrado | touch_pad-- [16:08:31] mnotess | touchpad++ [16:08:32] sesuncedu | Go to hell state! [16:08:33] KingNightWolf | I like to touch [16:08:34] cazzerson | finch's is tasty, and apparently their bananas foster is in season [16:08:35] ranti | anna3lc, bohyunkim: I think so, but the stuff she talked about seems differnet than the topic she put on the wiki [16:08:37] sesuncedu | :-P [16:08:40] pberry | anarchivist: Seems more like an op-Ed than an article [16:08:43] * timmcgeary is wishing there were bottles of water or pitchers/glasses [16:08:56] jrochkind | i want a code4lib journal article on this lightning talk! [16:08:57] anarchivist | pberry: i don't know what kind of newspaper would run columns on metadata [16:09:04] mjg_ | mbklein: wreck 'em! [16:09:05] anarchivist | sesuncedu++ [16:09:06] anna3lc | ranti: archiving the oil spill... that's what she was talking about :) [16:09:14] ndushay | timmcgeary: i agree about the water. my only complaint about the meeting [16:09:21] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has joined #code4lib [16:09:22] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) [16:09:23] * jtgorman rolls eyes at the "article" [16:09:23] jrochkind | andreas, give us a Journal article! [16:09:38] mjg_ | mbklein: "I ingested some bits and I didn't wanna wreck 'em so I bagged 'em right up and ran 'em through checkm" [16:09:41] ranti | anna3lc: OK. I guess I missed the oil part on her preso. ;-) [16:09:48] ---| ---> tzhaya_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:09:53] mjg_ | robcaSSon: stop logging those touches. [16:09:56] decasm_ | robcaSSon: i don't know how big it is. [16:10:10] mbklein | mjg_++ # N2T / i-DEN-ti-TY works also [16:10:15] timmcgeary | ndushay: no water is one of tops reason why the migraine yesterday lingered so long. [16:10:17] erikhatcher | Dr. Dre [16:10:19] ejk | Show me on the screen where they touched you [16:10:23] timmcgeary | @hate migraines [16:10:24] anna3lc | ranti: it was brief, but all those entries were i think sites or news reports about the spill [16:10:25] zoia | timmcgeary: The operation succeeded. timmcgeary hates migraines. [16:10:27] MrDys | "Also, code4lib has a history of inviting keynote speakers who are "out there," so it's like the real purpose of their keynote speech is for entertainment." What the fuck. [16:10:30] robcaSSon | ejk++ [16:10:33] ranti | touchy touchy... [16:10:36] erikhatcher | touchpad hater, touch screen developer [16:10:41] mjg_ | MrDys: where's that from? [16:10:46] ranti | anna3lc: got it [16:10:47] jrochkind | MrDys: who wrote that? [16:10:47] MrDys | mjg_: http://www.examiner.com/metadata-in-national/review-of-diane-hillmann-s-keynote-at-code4lib-2011-review [16:10:54] mbklein | people_clicking_the_QR_code++ [16:10:58] jaf | @band add fat stupid fingers [16:10:58] bohyunkim | how is this heatmap generated? [16:10:58] zoia | jaf: Band 'fat stupid fingers' added to list [16:11:00] jrochkind | jeffrey beall is a known wingnut. [16:11:01] highermath | the darker ones are forehead touches [16:11:03] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb6959a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.154] has quit (Client Quit) [16:11:07] dchud | i havae gfaty styup[id fingferws [16:11:08] timmcgeary | @hate no water at c4l conf [16:11:09] anarchivist | akorphan++ [16:11:10] zoia | timmcgeary: The operation succeeded. timmcgeary hates no water at c4l conf. [16:11:12] KingNightWolf | highermarth++ [16:11:17] anarchivist | @ana random touches [16:11:17] zoia | anarchivist: Unmatched or so [16:11:19] atz | anarchivist, MrDys, mbklein, mjg_ : that posse rap.... i suggest "git it, girl" [16:11:20] ---| <<-- mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:11:25] mbklein | again with the QR code. [16:11:26] timmcgeary | touching_all_over++ [16:11:29] MrDys | atz++ [16:11:29] jaf | heatmaps++ [16:11:34] mbklein | *poke* *poke* WHY IT NOT DO NOTHING?!! [16:11:37] pberry | BAD TOUCH [16:11:44] timmcgeary | @ana touching all over [16:11:44] zoia | timmcgeary: Loving, cuter halo [16:11:47] ---| ---> jbowen [8097bd5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.151.189.90] has joined #code4lib [16:11:50] bohyunkim | mbklein++ [16:11:57] jtgorman | reserve a particular computer? [16:12:07] jtgorman | "I like the one by the window..." [16:12:09] robcaSSon | see what software it has? [16:12:12] ranti | Interesting user expectations [16:12:15] atz | code4lib ==> 2LiveCrew [16:12:19] mjg_ | MrDys: jesus. someone published that stream of ad hominems and nonsense? [16:12:19] bohyunkim | touching all over is users' learning process of discovering features [16:12:21] dchud | who is this speaking? cool talk. [16:12:22] jaf | @sing divinyls : i touch myself [16:12:25] ndushay | "non-controlled touching" [16:12:27] mjg_ | dchud: akorphan [16:12:28] mbklein | bingo [16:12:29] zoia | jaf: No lyrics found for i touch myself by divinyls [16:12:40] dchud | mjg_: oh, that's akorphan... cool thx [16:12:49] mbklein | akorphan++ # Good solution [16:12:50] anna3lc | maybe people think they can pinch-to-zoom on the map? [16:12:55] davidWalker | good idea [16:13:03] timmcgeary | QR codes++ [16:13:04] atz | mjg_: yeah, not a good write-up. myspace quality. [16:13:05] mbklein | anna3lc++ interesting [16:13:14] mnotess | powerpoint-- [16:13:17] ndushay | kitteh++ [16:13:19] atz | akorphan++ [16:13:23] jaron1 | akorphan++ [16:13:24] timmcgeary | akorphan++ [16:13:27] * davidWalker claps [16:13:30] jaf | akorphan++ [16:13:30] pberry | "Hi, I'm a QR code!" [16:13:31] cazzerson | akorphan++ [16:13:31] robcaSSon | akorphan++ [16:13:32] ejk | akorphan++ [16:13:32] highermath | should put pop-up that says: if u don't know what this is, go away [16:13:33] mnotess | akorphan++ [16:13:34] wickr | akorphan++ [16:13:35] anna3lc | akorphan: maybe people think they can pinch-to-zoom on the map? (i repeat now that i know your nick) [16:13:38] ndushay | akorphan++ [16:13:42] ejk | When is EBY up? [16:13:42] dlovins | akorphan++ [16:13:45] ranti | akorphan++ kitteh++ [16:13:49] tokeee | atz: I have links, but I really don't know if I'm allowed to share. Come see me and we'll talk. Despite the napkins it is a serious attempt at merging [16:13:56] mbklein | ejk: eby is on 7th deck. :) [16:13:57] jrochkind | it's in Japan, dummies! [16:14:04] jtgorman | akorphan++ [16:14:06] scolford | popup - "Don't touch this again!" [16:14:08] ndushay | perth is further [16:14:09] scolford | akorphan++ [16:14:13] knickum | scuba_grad_student++ [16:14:16] ndushay | steve xxxx is from perth. [16:14:16] ranti | anna3lc: good point re: pinch and zoom [16:14:17] mbklein | wow. that++ [16:14:18] dlovins | japan_code4lib++ [16:14:20] pjb1 | is there anywhere to get fried okra in this town? [16:14:20] decasm_ | @google 10400 km in mi [16:14:22] zoia | decasm_: Stellaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellaland>; Airbus A380 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380>; Water Pollution Sources: <http://www.glslcities.org/Rigby.pdf>; Country Quickfacts - Goway's New Zealand - Goway Travel Experiences: <http://www.goway.com/downunder/newzealand/nz_quickfacts.html>; Invest in LEBANON : Country (2 more messages) [16:14:23] masao | milkya++ [16:14:31] timmcgeary | wow - really? largest LIS in world? dang [16:14:32] mbklein | google-- [16:14:34] ranti | miyazaki++ [16:14:37] akorphan | ;anna3lc: Oh, are you talking about the computer map? Interesting thought.... [16:14:42] anna3lc | miyazaki++ [16:14:43] edsu | miyazaki++ [16:14:48] pmurray | @calc 10400 km in miles [16:14:49] jaf | miyazaki++ [16:14:49] zoia | pmurray: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc". [16:14:59] scolford | wait -- he's a miazaki?! [16:15:00] bbpennel | studio_ghibli++ [16:15:01] pmurray | @google calc 10400 km in miles [16:15:01] mbklein | miyazaki++ my kids are obsessed with My Neighbor Totoro [16:15:02] highermath | can we see the movie now? [16:15:02] zoia | pmurray: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. [16:15:06] ndushay | wow - i think he practiced this talk a LOT. excellent delivery. [16:15:07] pberry | anime++ [16:15:07] pmurray | Well, I tried. [16:15:08] akorphan | I swear I just typed this, but it hasn't shown up on ym screen yet... [16:15:09] duspal | miyazaki++ [16:15:09] timmcgeary | @google convert 10400 km miles [16:15:10] jaf | oh no it's a disney movie [16:15:10] zoia | timmcgeary: Airbus A320 family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A320_family>; Flight Simulator Downloads - Microsoft Flight Simulator X, FSX ...: <http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?ID=90>; Airbus A330-200F / A330F: <http://www.deagel.com/Freighters/Airbus-A330-200F_a000199003.aspx>; Russian Federation ILYUSHIN (IL-96) Commercial Airliner Pictures ...: (2 more messages) [16:15:11] scolford | totoro++ [16:15:17] escowles | my 10yo loves that movie! [16:15:19] jrochkind | akorphan: when I saw the seating map on the screen, I had a mysterious urge to click on it and see what happened too. I think people just like to click on maps. [16:15:22] bohyunkim | totoro+++++ [16:15:23] akorphan | oh there I ma [16:15:26] mbklein | jaf-- [16:15:26] ndushay | tuskishima != tsukus [16:15:26] ---| ---> raynerj [9c383b3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.58] has joined #code4lib [16:15:30] maccabee | spirited_away++ [16:15:31] akorphan | jrochkind: hmmm..... [16:15:36] nabeta | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisper_of_the_Heart_(film) [16:15:37] sesuncedu | Read or Die [16:15:43] atz | i had a flat reel of Spirited Away i "inherited" from my minimum wage theatre job [16:15:46] BigD | Thats a privacy violation [16:15:49] jaf | this_presentation++ [16:15:52] maccabee | read books -> get married! [16:15:53] anna3lc | no spoiler alert! [16:15:58] mnotess | executive book summary [16:15:59] dchud | milkya++ [16:16:02] highermath | probably better than watching the movie [16:16:03] jrochkind | akorphan: you should propose/write an article on your touch screen thing (any aspect of your touch screen thing you think is interesting) for the C4L Journal. I haven't heard too much about touch screens in libraries. [16:16:05] ndushay | wait - this is after the heroine from spirit away? [16:16:07] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:16:08] ---| <<-- dbh_ [~dbh@149-166-9-137.dhcp-in.iupui.edu] has quit (Quit: dbh_) [16:16:08] harvel | haruki_ono++ [16:16:11] BigD | Put down plastic [16:16:11] jaf | milkya++ [16:16:11] atz | hookups4lib++ [16:16:17] mbklein | milkya++ [16:16:18] scolford | library_match_dot_com++ [16:16:18] harvel | @love libraries [16:16:20] awead | miyazaki++ [16:16:20] zoia | harvel: The operation succeeded. harvel loves libraries. [16:16:23] pjb1 | rumor has it there are often encounters in my library [16:16:25] timmcgeary | Hooking up over circulations! [16:16:28] ---| ---> gregjansen [~count0@156-56-58-126.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:16:28] mnotess | social opac challenges eHarmony and match.com [16:16:29] duspal | milkya++ [16:16:30] atz | isn't that libraryThing? [16:16:31] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:16:31] anna3lc | this is awesome [16:16:33] ndushay | i recommend bess [16:16:41] dchud | i recommend ndushay [16:16:48] timmcgeary | mnotess++ [16:16:55] decasm_ | algorism - i like it [16:16:57] jrochkind | no project can beat Project Fall In Love In Library. [16:17:01] ndushay | dchud++ [16:17:02] sesuncedu | http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=8951 [16:17:05] atz | ndushay: dunno, haven't seen that one [16:17:12] dchud | i've watched this! [16:17:13] sesuncedu | LC Center for the Bonk [16:17:15] mjg_ | how cool is it that people traveled from Japan for code4lib? [16:17:17] awead | @ana Fall In Love In Library [16:17:18] zoia | awead: Nobler flair villainy [16:17:26] dchud | it's like LibPunk but with video [16:17:30] pberry | awead: Very [16:17:30] mbklein | I can't wait to see the movie version of this with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan [16:17:33] dchud | nabeta sent me the link [16:17:36] ranti | dchud: totally [16:17:39] timmcgeary | mbklein++ [16:17:41] ---| User: *** mattriehle is now known as riehlemt [16:17:41] jrochkind | it's like a call-in show on scholarly research? [16:17:44] atz | akorphan: your talk was very informative. very useful stuff [16:17:46] dchud | i recommend ranti [16:17:51] BigD | LibCarrousel [16:17:53] ndushay | wait - isn't that when the chicago underground library meets? [16:17:59] jrochkind | and if you know japanese [16:18:02] charper | c4ljp++ [16:18:07] tokeee | milkya++ [16:18:09] robcaSSon | chatroullette for libraries [16:18:13] ndushay | japanese librarian engineers fall in love with chicago underground. [16:18:22] ranti | milkya++ [16:18:22] highermath | milkya++ [16:18:23] atz | aaaayooo [16:18:23] KingNightWolf | dig it [16:18:25] mbklein | The world doesn't even exist at 6am. They haven't finished booting the matrix yet by then. [16:18:25] akorphan | atz: thanks [16:18:26] mnotess | milkya++ [16:18:28] timmcgeary | mbklein: "You've Got Overdue Books" ? [16:18:36] mjg_ | milkya++ c4ljp++ [16:18:40] erikhatcher | what tech are these SCUBA folks using? Mahout? [16:18:40] sesuncedu | "Only libraries can acquire and circulate materials, censored or not. The Library Defense Force (LDF) was formed to protect libraries and their collections. While in high school, Iku Kasahara witnessed an LDF agent stop a government raid on a bookstore. She vowed to join the organization and be like her hero." [16:18:40] MrDys | sing it kanye [16:18:40] scolford | timmcgeary++ [16:18:42] akorphan | atz jrochkind: Maybe I'll do a proper paper [16:18:47] robcaSSon | @hate kanye [16:18:49] zoia | robcaSSon: The operation succeeded. robcaSSon hates kanye. [16:19:01] mjg_ | steve_from_uw++ [16:19:03] timmcgeary | @whocares kanye [16:19:04] pberry | Oh kanye... [16:19:05] zoia | robcaSSon hates kanye [16:19:05] jrochkind | mbklein: you are lying, although I don't USUALLY stay up that late, occasionally I have stayed up late enough to see 6am. [16:19:11] ndushay | stephenmeyer++ [16:19:13] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:19:17] awead | @sing Kanye West [16:19:19] decasm_ | code4lib.jp is pretty slick. i don't understand it, but it's slick. [16:19:20] zoia | Verse 1 / That's why alot of girls claim they aint into guys, and mess with other girls part time to improvise. / I know she wouldn't buy that i'd seen it in her eyes, but i'm like any other guy; tryna get in her thighs, she tellin' me about how black people should enterprise, i'm like if you don't get your ass in this ride from enterprise, that i rented yesterday and gotta have in by 5, with the gas fully filled up (1 more message) [16:19:20] KingNightWolf | everyone hates kanye [16:19:21] mjg_ | stephenmeyer++ [16:19:23] robcaSSon | @band add Chocolate Vulva [16:19:24] zoia | robcaSSon: Band 'Chocolate Vulva' added to list [16:19:31] ranti | sesuncedu: w00t. I just started reading the series. [16:19:32] sesuncedu | It is right... just not complete [16:19:40] edsu | pointers [16:19:42] jaf | @band add crusty old c programmers [16:19:42] zoia | jaf: Band 'crusty old c programmers' added to list [16:19:45] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:19:47] atz | crusty_old_C_coders++ [16:19:49] mnotess | @ana crusty old c programmers [16:19:49] ---| ---> chumpanzee [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has joined #code4lib [16:19:50] zoia | mnotess: Grrr! Classy computerdom [16:19:52] sesuncedu | http://www.amazon.com/Library-Wars-Love-War-Vol/dp/1421534886 [16:19:54] dchud | milkya: that was awesome [16:19:56] jaf | zoia++ [16:19:56] mnotess | ha ha [16:19:59] KingNightWolf | atz++ [16:20:01] ndushay | Krusty Krogrammers [16:20:01] timmcgeary | hey - I edited that article [16:20:02] akorphan | zoia++ [16:20:03] mbklein | jrochkind: Then you're still running on YESTERDAY'S rev. [16:20:07] cbeer | decasm: i added a dine around entry for finch's [16:20:08] timmcgeary | woot! [16:20:08] ecorrado | c4lj++ [16:20:10] jrochkind | journal shoutout! [16:20:10] scolford | zoia++ [16:20:15] decasm_ | cbeer++ [16:20:17] akorphan | Who's up now? [16:20:22] mbklein | c4lj++ [16:20:22] escowles | Krustee Koderz [16:20:27] ndushay | huh - decasm - make a rez for finchs? [16:20:34] edsu | wish LC would take FAST more seriously :-( [16:20:36] timmcgeary | c4lj++ [16:20:39] jaf | BigD: still doing the white castle run? [16:20:42] timmcgeary | @karma c4lj [16:20:42] zoia | timmcgeary: Karma for "c4lj" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [16:20:45] ndushay | akorphan: stephen meyer of UW Madison [16:20:48] mjg_ | oooh, white castle [16:20:49] decasm_ | ndushay: yeah, i'm going to call shortly. [16:20:59] ndushay | decasm++ [16:21:00] akorphan | ndushay: thanks [16:21:05] ---| <<-- banu1 [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:21:06] ecorrado | white_castle++ [16:21:08] sesuncedu | There's an incorrect semantic inference going up all in there [16:21:16] decasm_ | robcaSSon: you in for finch's? [16:21:16] mjg_ | BigD: wake up and talk about steamed sliders. [16:21:19] ndushay | akorphan: kewl stuff. [16:21:21] mbklein | Favorite thing about the c4l journal: Instead of just emailing authors about accepted submissions, they send out little NECCO valentine hearts saying "I choo-choo-choose you" [16:21:21] erikhatcher | hierarchy++ [16:21:25] dchud | this looks great but the only thing that would improve it is a cooler url [16:21:30] mbklein | (OK, not really, but they should.) [16:21:40] edsu | @band add Glitzy and Whatever [16:21:40] zoia | edsu: Band 'Glitzy and Whatever' added to list [16:21:41] scolford | mbklein++ [16:21:42] sesuncedu | [why yes, this roughly the central area of my dissertation topic] [16:21:44] dchud | akorphan: great talk, very cool view of that tech, thanks! [16:21:44] highermath | jaf: I could get behind a White Castle run! [16:21:45] mjg_ | mbklein+- # groan [16:21:49] * mbklein is eating way too many skittles [16:21:50] ---| ---> dbh_ [~dbh@149-166-9-137.dhcp-in.iupui.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:21:50] robcaSSon | decasm_: i'll probably just stick with Little Tibet...thanks tho [16:21:51] tburtonw | subject heading faceting ++ [16:22:01] jrochkind | dchud: what's wrong with the url? [16:22:01] ---| <<-- mtsmr [3b8ff4e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.143.244.231] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:22:02] * highermath has car [16:22:04] sesuncedu | Not strictly faceting [16:22:08] timmcgeary | bad subfield - you have too much power [16:22:09] akorphan | dchud ndushay: thanks! [16:22:09] sesuncedu | not strictly not faceting [16:22:11] decasm_ | robcaSSon: cool, just wanted to check before reservation [16:22:19] dchud | jrochkind: very param-heavy, could just be a regular uri [16:22:26] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:22:26] dchud | but that's a nit [16:22:29] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:22:29] was | dchud: one URL for each subfield a? [16:22:33] BigD | Jaf - I'd like to. That jackass robcaSSon pulled out, so no car so far. [16:22:38] ndushay | research has shown that NO ONE fully knows LCSH [16:22:39] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [16:22:51] jrochkind | dchud: with multiple limits? I don't know any good way to put that in a pretty uri. I mean, you can do it, but it ends up kind of tricky on the code side. [16:22:52] edsu | ndushay: i believe that [16:22:54] sesuncedu | ndushay: Actually, it's worse than that [16:22:54] jaf | BigD: see highermath's statement just above [16:22:57] mjg_ | robcaSSon: where are you heading for dinner? finch's? [16:23:01] pmurray | "Cataloging data double dash things." [16:23:04] highermath | BigD: I have a car [16:23:13] ndushay | should we use LCC too? [16:23:15] bmljenny | Pretty pretty landing page. Shiny. [16:23:16] robcaSSon | mjg_: Little Tibet. [16:23:17] akorphan | double_dash-- [16:23:19] ndushay | (ha ha ha) [16:23:23] KingNightWolf | I have a library copter [16:23:26] mjg_ | robcaSSon: ah, right. [16:23:26] maccabee | smeyer++ [16:23:27] pberry | @sing arcade fire : no car go [16:23:29] zoia | pberry: No lyrics found for no car go by arcade fire [16:23:31] sesuncedu | ndushay: it seems that people who have used it for 20 years may have aquired an understanding [16:23:35] timmcgeary | KingNightWorf++ [16:23:35] edsu | smeyer++ [16:23:35] ---| ---> zpinhead [4a4f14f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.79.20.244] has joined #code4lib [16:23:40] cbeer | dchud,jrochkind: i'd like to see the primary topic in the uri, at least [16:23:42] sesuncedu | ndushay: but not catalogers or users [16:23:42] dchud | delicious does it with "+" or something like that right? [16:23:43] mbklein | I should've brought my library raid jacket. [16:23:45] was | jrochkind: /subjects/abstract_expressionism/places? [16:23:46] anna3lc | mario_kart_double_dash++ [16:23:48] dchud | cbeer: yeah that's what i was thinking [16:23:49] ndushay | sesuncedu: but perhaps not a SHARED understanding [16:23:52] mjg_ | white castle followed by upland or the h-suite would be a fine way to spend the night [16:24:03] KingNightWolf | anna3lc++ [16:24:04] jrochkind | dchud: like, /topic/Anarchy/geo/Asia/chron/19th+Century .... kinda a mess. but yeah, primary one should be in the URI, and it's only one line of code in rails routes.rb to make it so, easy to fix. [16:24:13] ndushay | i can't keep up here. [16:24:15] atz | @sing olof arnalds: crazy car [16:24:16] zoia | atz: No lyrics found for crazy car by olof arnalds [16:24:19] ndushay | so i'll write more drivel! [16:24:20] cbeer | are the UW folk on irc? [16:24:27] dchud | jrochkind: sure, something like that [16:24:30] decasm_ | also, anyone interested in village deli tomorrow, put your name on the social activities page (mbklein) [16:24:30] robcaSSon | mjg_: if you guys end up at Upland, let me know...i'd like to get there too [16:24:35] ndushay | stephenmeyer will come back. [16:24:40] sesuncedu | ndushay: The only really on point study was Markey et al., which had a suspiciously high IRR for the raters [16:24:54] atz | @sing Ólöf arnalds: crazy car [16:24:54] sesuncedu | ndushay: but found ~50% understanding by catalogers, and << that for users [16:24:55] zoia | atz: No lyrics found for crazy car by Ólöf arnalds [16:24:57] mbklein | sesuncedu: raters gonna rate [16:24:59] ---| <<-- tburtonw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:25:00] ---| ---> stephenmeyer [~stephenme@156-56-59-38.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:25:00] BigD | highermath: Woot! Meet in lobby at 5:30? [16:25:01] mnotess | @ana popcorn skittles mixed nuts [16:25:02] zoia | mnotess: Kindest exploits scrump not [16:25:03] jrochkind | dchud: yeah, that full thing just requires pain in the ass code to parse and generate URLs like that, which probably isn't worth it just for aesthetics. But agree the primary one should be in the path. [16:25:12] sesuncedu | mbkelin: bust a kappa in yo ass [16:25:18] jaf | short_url++ [16:25:20] yo_bj | No you're supposed to touch it [16:25:24] ndushay | sesuncedu: i was recalling the Markey stuff. Didn't know about the IRR ... what's IRR? [16:25:29] timmcgeary | qr_code++ [16:25:31] ---| ---> tseneca [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has joined #code4lib [16:25:33] scolford | yo_bj++ [16:25:36] highermath | BigD: okay c u @ 530 [16:25:38] ndushay | Eric Larson is another UW Madison "forward" guy [16:25:43] BigD | robcaSSon: Die in a fire [16:25:47] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [16:25:48] ejk | Looks nice [16:25:48] sesuncedu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-rater_reliability [16:25:54] anarchivist | mjg_: we're going to upland for dinner, so feel free to look for us after white castle [16:25:57] ndushay | stephenmeyer++ # nice [16:26:00] akorphan | mmm, lightly customized. [16:26:01] anarchivist | wisc.edu++ [16:26:06] mbklein | Most popular photo in the OSU Flickr archive, I'm assuming based on wrongheaded search clickthroughs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/osucommons/3332955265/ [16:26:12] sesuncedu | nudhay: Karen Markey writing as Karen M. Drabenstott... [16:26:24] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:26:25] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:26:25] edsu | jrochkind: do you guys do any analytics no c4lj? [16:26:26] robcaSSon | mbklein++ [16:26:26] jrochkind | man, this is a room full of some smart computer geeks. I think there may be no room in the country with a higher density of clever computer geeks. [16:26:28] BigD | highermath: Want to go to upland after white castle? [16:26:30] timmcgeary | mbklein++ [16:26:34] jrochkind | edsu: limited, with Google Analytics. [16:26:35] ---| ---> mcdonald1 [~Adium@156-56-58-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:26:36] anarchivist | sesuncedu: she was drabenstott when i was at michigan [16:26:37] ndushay | sesuncedu: yes, i know. Diane Hillmann pointed me towards the work many years ago. [16:26:45] sesuncedu | stepheniemyer-- [16:26:55] scolford | mbklein: at least it's not "nude child" [16:26:55] pmurray | mbklein++ [16:27:09] ndushay | i have trouble with drabenstott as a name. I always want it to be something else [16:27:10] highermath | BigD: sure, as long as it is in Indiana [16:27:11] mbklein | scolford: Poor Tom. [16:27:15] ndushay | @ana drabenstott [16:27:15] zoia | ndushay: Tatters bond [16:27:21] tbw | ndushay: Lois Mai Chan also did a few studie I think [16:27:23] jrochkind | rails_engines++ # even though it took DHH like five years to stop discouraging them [16:27:27] mjg_ | anarchivist: werd. walking or driving or taxiing? [16:27:29] robcaSSon | mbklein: here's ours: http://foam.lib.muohio.edu/multifacet/record/oai-doyle-lib-muohio-edu-snyder-95 [16:27:30] scolford | ["nude child" being the most viewed BPL flickr item. sadly.] [16:27:37] cazzerson | cwlown++ [16:27:39] erikhatcher | does anyone really use QR codes? [16:27:41] anarchivist | mjg_: i think we're going to be walking. [16:27:45] akorphan | Oh, THAT's Eric Lease Morgan. [16:27:45] mbklein | robcaSSon: ew [16:27:45] BigD | So, white castle run = highermath jaf mjg_ ? Anyone else? [16:27:48] mjg_ | anarchivist: long cold walk, yo [16:27:49] sesuncedu | ndushay: The UM study as the only one that would have been viable [16:27:52] ecorrado | where is Eric's chair? [16:27:53] timmcgeary | @ana counting words [16:27:54] zoia | timmcgeary: Wrong discount [16:27:55] atz | mayor quimbee style! [16:27:56] mjg_ | BigD: mcritchlow [16:27:57] mbklein | ecorrado++ [16:27:59] jaron1 | cwlown++ [16:28:00] scolford | holy crap, robcasson [16:28:03] dchud | ecorrado: we should *totally* bring it up there [16:28:05] robcaSSon | mbklein: i don't think it really is...just the only one i remember [16:28:07] mjg_ | BigD: will check on dmc186 too [16:28:10] sesuncedu | Where's Walden!!! [16:28:11] edsu | jrochkind: do they stats give you an idea of what are popular topics, kinda like what mark pilgrim did w/ his online html5 book http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/01/09/dive-into-2010 [16:28:14] dchud | maybe at the 4:50 mark [16:28:18] ndushay | super ugly web page [16:28:19] mbklein | anarchivist: where you going? [16:28:25] ejk | @karma elm [16:28:25] zoia | ejk: Karma for "elm" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. [16:28:28] jtgorman | erikhatcher: I suspect not, but the placard idea is one of the best uses I've seen so far [16:28:30] ndushay | another super ugly web page. [16:28:37] anarchivist | mjg_: good point ... hmm - should just get taxis from hotel reg desk [16:28:38] escowles | BigD: i'm in for wc [16:28:41] eefcee | http://infomotions.com/alex/ [16:28:42] anarchivist | mbklein: upland brewing [16:28:44] jtgorman | erikhatcher: think, you could rent out some sort of mobile computer, like the various audio tours [16:28:44] MrDys | I like how he points when he speaks [16:29:00] mjg_ | anarchivist: should you need a taxi: 812-334-8294 [16:29:02] pjb1 | wax on, wax off [16:29:04] sesuncedu | Planes [16:29:04] pberry | Upland sounds promising [16:29:07] ndushay | i like the scale. [16:29:08] jtgorman | erikhatcher: or even just create an audio tour w/ a barcode scanner/cheap camera [16:29:09] mjg_ | (B'ton White Cab) [16:29:13] anarchivist | mjg_++ [16:29:13] timmcgeary | word-o-meter [16:29:17] ndushay | tbw: why don't YOU do that. [16:29:21] highermath | BigD: I have a "compact" car - 4 max [16:29:23] ranti | he looks like a preacher with the book in his left hand [16:29:23] jrochkind | ndushay: it's more top-down theory than bottom-up-user-study, but you may be interested in a paper I wrote in library school on controlled vocabulary (not LCSH specifically), which cites some papers by Chan and Markey. http://bibwild.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/purposesfunctions-of-controlled-vocabulary/ [16:29:26] pberry | wc -l [16:29:28] tzhaya_ | Maybe "SCUBA" = "TSUKUBA"? [16:29:28] ndushay | tbw: with a fancy-pants scale graphic. [16:29:28] anna3lc | word-o-meter! [16:29:43] anarchivist | tzhaya_++ [16:29:45] mbklein | anarchivist: hmmm...decisions... [16:29:46] sesuncedu | Tsubasa [16:29:57] mjg_ | BigD: if dmc186 is down, he might could be willing to drive [16:29:58] ejk | super_note_binder++ [16:30:00] robcaSSon | anarchivist: you're just going straight to upland? what time? [16:30:00] zpinhead | maybe just call it the suckometer [16:30:04] decasm_ | jrochkind, BillDueber, ndushay, cbeer, MrDys - best reservation i could get was 7:30. everyone still in? [16:30:04] anarchivist | mbklein: the food at irish lion wasn't inspiring. [16:30:06] dlovins | I like how ELM's word counter can act as a concordance for any book (or across multiple books?) [16:30:06] ---| ---> willsexton [9c383a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.31] has joined #code4lib [16:30:08] ---| <--- hcayless [~hcayless@99-173-133-217.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net] has left #code4lib () [16:30:09] timmcgeary | poor Tolstoy - he would get killed on the word-o-meter [16:30:12] dchud | tzhaya_: yes, sounds like "scuba" to most of us :) [16:30:13] MrDys | decasm_: I'm cool with that [16:30:18] anarchivist | robcaSSon: leaving from the hotel lobby at 6:30. [16:30:18] BillDueber | Me too. [16:30:18] BigD | Ok, white castle ppl just meet in lobby at 5:30. We'll see who has cars. And recruit drivers? [16:30:20] KingNightWolf | this is some cool stuff [16:30:21] ndushay | um - has he heard of tag clouds? [16:30:24] jrochkind | decasm_: yep, I am. I might meet you there, I want to stop by the anarchist bookstore first. [16:30:25] jtgorman | http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lingua-EN-Fathom/ is a useful perl library if I remember correctly [16:30:26] tbw | We would get 2 million words starting with q [16:30:26] scolford | anarchivist: leprechaun wings!!! [16:30:27] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:30:32] atz | that was ... FAST [16:30:38] mjg_ | BigD: k. unplanning win. [16:30:39] anna3lc | pretty! [16:30:40] jrochkind | decasm_++ [16:30:45] tzhaya_ | I see > sound like "scuba" [16:30:49] MrDys | decasm_: meet in the lobby at 7? [16:30:51] atz | massive data breakdowns [16:30:53] anarchivist | every time a __________ a leprechaun gets its wings [16:30:53] cbeer | decasm_: sounds good [16:30:57] ndushay | decasm: I'm in for 7:30, yes. [16:31:00] mbklein | anarchivist: I see what you mean [16:31:01] anna3lc | i love that center column of red words [16:31:04] ndushay | later is better for me anyway. [16:31:05] timmcgeary | This would have been fantastic in my music history research papers [16:31:05] robcaSSon | eby, wickr: wanna stick with Little Tibet tonight, or Upland? i'm torn, but i'm also staying till friday, so have options... [16:31:10] sesuncedu | Bullet with leprechaun wings [16:31:17] MrDys | sesuncedu++ [16:31:22] eby | Haven't looked at menu [16:31:25] wickr | robcaSSon: I'd be fine with either really [16:31:25] ---| ---> Babs [9bf60207@gateway/web/freenode/ip.155.246.2.7] has joined #code4lib [16:31:29] escowles | words of goo [16:31:31] jaf | hate to see the heat map on that [16:31:31] dchud | touchgraph? [16:31:34] edsu | protovis [16:31:34] ---| <<-- chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:31:37] jrochkind | all of elm's stuff like this, it's interesting ART but I never understand why it's useful. [16:31:38] decasm_ | yeah, lobby @ 7, leave no later than 7:15 [16:31:38] dlovins | protovis++ [16:31:39] timmcgeary | show mean were "impressionism" is detailed in a book about Debussy [16:31:42] anarchivist | mbklein: yeah, we looked at irish lion for a c4lcon happy hour, but the lack of veggie options was pretty problematic [16:31:46] eby | Can do upland if you want robcaSSon [16:31:47] timmcgeary | s/mean/me [16:31:47] akorphan | I like emorgan's circa 1998 MIT-math-department-style web pages. (Seriously.) [16:31:48] ndushay | the graphic is drifting ... [16:31:49] ---| <<-- sdellis [9c383abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.187] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:31:49] anna3lc | where is it going? [16:31:51] mnotess | jrochkind++ [16:31:52] mtomko | it's going to drift right off the screen. [16:31:55] edsu | i only know because i saw him asking questions on the protovis discussion list :-) [16:31:59] pmurray | it is trying to get away from eric. [16:32:00] anna3lc | it's floating in the current [16:32:03] jrochkind | decasm_: I might meet you there, if I"m not in the lobby don't replace me or anything. Send me your cell num? [16:32:09] pmurray | Run away! Run away! [16:32:10] atz | akorphan: yeah, straight out of the old days. [16:32:11] timmcgeary | @ana floating network [16:32:12] zoia | timmcgeary: Now flattering OK [16:32:14] dchud | the mass of men live lives of awkward visualizations [16:32:16] duspal | RUN LITTLE GRAPH! [16:32:20] dlovins | pmurray++ [16:32:20] jaf | is his hypo tyree floating away? [16:32:25] jrochkind | yeah, what's cool in the book is Ponds and Likely. Um? [16:32:29] ndushay | jrochkind++ # not clear if it's useful. [16:32:33] ---| <--- druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:32:33] BigD | Maybe we can steal cars... [16:32:37] edsu | dchud: tis true [16:32:40] ---| ---> chickmarkley [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:32:41] mbklein | duspal++ [16:32:45] ---| ---> jstirnaman1 [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:32:47] ndushay | also - why have a viz if the rest of your pages are so incredibly ugly? [16:32:48] timmcgeary | elm++ [16:32:52] jrochkind | ndushay: yeah, so you caught that, reservation is at 7:30 at finches. Meet in lobby at 7 or meet there. [16:32:52] eefcee | elm++ [16:32:55] mnotess | visualization is often in search of purpose [16:32:59] pberry | Is there some dinner sign up page I'm not finding? [16:33:00] mjg_ | tolstoy++ [16:33:00] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:33:03] BigD | mcdonald1: Are you up for a 5:30 white castle run? [16:33:05] anna3lc | elm++ i'm a convert [16:33:05] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [~Adium@156-56-58-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [16:33:07] timmcgeary | free++ [16:33:09] mnotess | tolstoy++ [16:33:11] sesuncedu | The page is a container for the vizualization [16:33:11] dchud | edsu: though elm's project is a nice, useful set of hacks for sure [16:33:12] mbklein | elm++ [16:33:12] akorphan | speakers_from_the_chilly_north++ [16:33:15] scolford | tolstoy++ [16:33:17] freqlurker | best name ever [16:33:19] ndushay | pberry: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities [16:33:20] atz | pberry: there's just a few ideas, don't really need to sign up [16:33:23] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [16:33:24] mbklein | sesuncedu: The visualization cannot be contained. [16:33:26] anarchivist | cucumber++ [16:33:27] akorphan | @ana Theodor Tolstoy [16:33:27] anarchivist | cucumber++ [16:33:27] anarchivist | cucumber++ [16:33:28] zoia | akorphan: Tool hot destroy [16:33:29] anarchivist | cucumber++ [16:33:29] ranti | I will use ELM stuff whenever I'm too lazy to read a book... [16:33:32] ---| <<-- danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:33:34] edsu | dchud: i loved using concordances when i was an english major, so i can relate [16:33:35] sesuncedu | Better than a man [16:33:39] jrochkind | yeah, I guess elm's stuff it's just R&D of various techniques, waiting to be found a useful application. nothing wrong with that. [16:33:41] erikhatcher | "now this is gonna make a real mess" [16:33:45] mjg_ | cukes++ [16:33:46] tokeee | tool_hot_destroy++ [16:33:50] jtgorman | edsu: yeah, I liked playing with the idea as an undergrad... [16:33:55] timmcgeary | ranti: not laziness; efficiency. [16:33:56] sesuncedu | edsu: corpus linguisitcs [16:34:00] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:34:03] edsu | dchud: when i worked at the etext center at columbia people really did want to do that stuff [16:34:06] jrochkind | although he ended with "and this is why catalogs should include this kind of feature", which I'm not buying. [16:34:18] sesuncedu | edsu: it's not a just a good idea, it's a subfield [16:34:27] ndushay | decasm: meet in lobby at ?? [16:34:28] edsu | sesuncedu: :-) [16:34:32] ranti | timmcgeary: that one comes when I need to analyze the book. ;-) [16:34:35] robcaSSon | wickr, eby: wanna just do upland? if so, i'll pull us off the Little Tibet list [16:34:38] timmcgeary | jrochkind: not catalogs, discovery interfaces [16:34:41] jrochkind | edsu: so are you just watching the stream all day? Kind of ridiculous that you didn't just come here! [16:34:45] eby | robcaSSon: Sure [16:34:47] jaf | i love on the cukes page step 7 is "Repeat 1-6 until the money runs out" [16:34:53] danhorst | <3 [16:34:54] ---| <<-- julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:34:56] edsu | jrochkind: yeah, i haven't been feeling so well, so i've been at home [16:34:58] wickr | robcaSSon: sure [16:35:07] edsu | jrochkind: doing work, i couldn't get away for family reasons unfortunately [16:35:12] jrochkind | jaf: nice, that's like the opposite of 'profit'. From now on that's my last step, I'm abandoning 'profit', which is over-rated. [16:35:13] ---| ---> julia__ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [16:35:15] jrochkind | edsu: cool [16:35:18] ndushay | edsu: come here and we could make you feel worse. [16:35:25] erikhatcher | jrochkind: i'm a bit under the weather myself, so tuning in to the stream all day.... great stuff. i wish i was still there, alas [16:35:30] pberry | @fight duke unc [16:35:31] zoia | pberry: duke: 31000000, unc: 3940000 [16:35:35] edsu | ndushay: :-) [16:35:50] jrochkind | mcdonald1++ for the awesome stream. It kind of seems like we have as many people watching the stream as are her ein person at any given time. [16:35:52] mbklein | robcaSSon: http://free-to-all.digital.bpl.org.s3.amazonaws.com/streams/bpldc:08_06_000655/08_06_000655-500.jpg [16:35:52] dchud | edsu: cool. i forgot you worked there. tell me about it sometime eh [16:35:58] erikhatcher | cucumber++ [16:36:03] BigD | robcaSSon: You could do WC then upland. Then I will love you again. [16:36:04] scolford | mbklein: squee! [16:36:05] sesuncedu | pberry: Time for a Marshall plan [16:36:13] robcaSSon | BigD: i'm gonna pull out....again [16:36:16] edsu | jrochkind: having a good time i trust? [16:36:36] mbklein | scolford: Don't forget the monkey fighting the stork: http://free-to-all.digital.bpl.org.s3.amazonaws.com/streams/bpldc:08_06_000582/08_06_000582-500.jpg [16:36:39] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:36:39] jrochkind | erikhatcher: did I ever tell you that one of my co-workers who's a Java-head, but is not interested in libraries specifically even though he works in one, when he saw you were doinga pre-conf at a past code4lib, he was like "Erik Hatcher? Why would Erik Hatcher be at a _library_ conference?" [with disdain in his voice for libraries] [16:36:44] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:36:47] edsu | dchud: ok :-) [16:36:50] pberry | sesuncedu: Did we screw up Germany again? [16:36:51] mjg_ | WC_then_Upland_then_Hospitality++ # still ~25 bottles [16:36:57] ndushay | people_not_from_us_or_canada++ [16:36:58] scolford | I love the subject heading "animals in human situations" [16:37:03] erikhatcher | jrochkind: i'm crazy like that [16:37:06] robcaSSon | scolford++ mbklein++ # bpl has the best digital collections evar [16:37:19] anarchivist | http://www.flickr.com/photos/hungryghoast/4212020325/ [16:37:21] * davidWalker claps [16:37:21] BigD | edsu: You did miss many fine beers much... Not. [16:37:32] ejk | eby: you up soon? [16:37:33] ---| <<-- tzhaya_ [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [16:37:36] jaf | we should institute a prize for furthest travel to make it to c4l again [16:37:39] BigD | Didn't. Never mind [16:37:48] * ejk lost count of where we were [16:37:49] jrochkind | jaf: what do they win? [16:37:49] eby | ejk: Got a few ahead [16:37:50] robcaSSon | anarchivist: is that jtgorman? [16:37:52] jtgorman | edsu: you missed the Founder's Oatmeal Stout on tap. Ask BigD about that. [16:37:55] scolford | BPL digitization selection philosophy - let's do shit that makes us laugh [16:38:04] jaf | jrochkind: the first year they got a book written by RoyT [16:38:04] mbklein | scolford++ [16:38:08] ndushay | french_accents++ [16:38:09] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:38:14] timmcgeary | yum: outmeal stout [16:38:27] scolford | anarchivist: wtf? [16:38:35] was | HCL digitization selection policy: What's on the top of the special collections librarian's desk? [16:38:37] ejk | Quite the internation presence in this batch of talks [16:38:48] ejk | s/nation/national [16:38:51] ndushay | who is this? [16:38:53] jrochkind | jaf: who's MC'ing tomorrow? Someone shoudl at least do a shoutout to the folks who travelled from far away, along with being sure to remember to thank mcdonald1 et al [16:38:57] wickr | ndushay: Aurélien Charo [16:39:04] ---| <<-- joshbishoff [c01190a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.17.144.166] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:39:05] timmcgeary | internationalization_of_c4l++ [16:39:06] BigD | jtgorman: I'm too hungover to be angry. [16:39:06] ndushay | wickr++ [16:39:08] wickr | ndushay: more info the lightning talks page [16:39:10] ejk | mcdonald1++ [16:39:11] mjg_ | anarchivist: ¿donde esta el melón? [16:39:16] ejk | live_stream++ [16:39:17] wickr | australia is represented too [16:39:17] sesuncedu | ANSEL [16:39:23] mbklein | jrochkind: I was gonna shout out to the hosts at wrapup today. [16:39:24] ndushay | wickr: I stared but i did not see. [16:39:30] MrDys | mjg_: did you happen to be the one that brought the Sly Fox Ichor last night? [16:39:38] mjg_ | MrDys: guilty [16:39:38] anarchivist | mjg_: el melón esta en la cocina. [16:39:40] ndushay | mbklein: many shout outs are good. [16:39:50] ndushay | jrochkind: shout it out! [16:39:51] MrDys | mjg_: that was gooooooooood. I need to find a way to get it in Baltimore [16:39:51] ---| <<-- zpinhead [4a4f14f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.79.20.244] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [16:39:57] anarchivist | @sing sun city girls : esta susan en casa [16:39:58] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for esta susan en casa by sun city girls [16:40:08] anarchivist | MrDys: have you had stuff from stillwater? [16:40:13] mbklein | atz: What was that bourbon barrel beer you had last night? Must Find Moar. [16:40:13] anarchivist | MrDys: it's super good [16:40:17] MrDys | anarchivist: I don't think so [16:40:21] BigD | My fave last night was the sea bass from escowles [16:40:24] anarchivist | MrDys: they're from baltimore [16:40:26] jrochkind | mbklein++ [16:40:30] robcaSSon | @sing sun city girls : horse cock phepner [16:40:31] zoia | robcaSSon: No lyrics found for horse cock phepner by sun city girls [16:40:32] mjg_ | MrDys: if you want to take advantage of swapping microservices, we might could get UPS or FedEx as a service bus. [16:40:33] jaf | @sing sonic youth : ca plane pour moi [16:40:35] zoia | jaf: No lyrics found for ca plane pour moi by sonic youth [16:40:35] jtgorman | anarchivist: hey..when were you...wha... [16:40:40] robcaSSon | sea_bass++ escowles++ # awesome [16:40:43] MrDys | mjg_++ [16:40:46] dlovins | http://www.abes.fr/abes/en/page,428,star.html [16:40:49] atz | mbklein: Kentucky Brewing Company, Bourbon Barrel Ale [16:40:53] pjb1 | @sing plastic bertrand ; ca plane pour moi [16:40:54] zoia | pjb1: No songs found by plastic bertrand ; ca plane pour moi [16:40:57] anarchivist | MrDys: http://stillwaterales.blogspot.com/ [16:40:58] tshearerlib | update massively! [16:40:58] jrochkind | mjg_: UPS and FedEx don't have busses, you're thinking Greyhound. [16:41:06] MrDys | blogspot, eh? [16:41:07] freqlurker | @sing plastic bertrand : ca plane pour moi [16:41:07] tbw | Good ol oracle triggers [16:41:08] zoia | T'inquiète / Touche pas ma planète / It's not to day / Quel le ciel me tombera sur la tête [16:41:09] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:41:16] BigD | atz: That was my #2 fave [16:41:17] mjg_ | MrDys: but srsly, I'd be up for mailing beers back and forth with you, if yer interested. [16:41:21] sesuncedu | mjg: those aren't microservices, those are mini-buses [16:41:25] ndushay | @sing la vie en rose [16:41:26] zoia | ndushay: No songs found by la vie en rose [16:41:29] bmljenny | freqlurker++ [16:41:30] mjg_ | so many good accents this year. [16:41:37] mbklein | atz++ [16:41:37] escowles | my faves are a tie of the sea bass and the lost abbey sinners # new sour convert [16:41:37] atz | BigD: nice. of course i must know what was #1? [16:41:40] MrDys | mjg_: I may take you up on that, I need to see what's available to me [16:41:41] jaf | so few neckbeards [16:41:43] ---| ---> fowbar [8e679df6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.103.157.246] has joined #code4lib [16:41:46] sesuncedu | @sing Miss Kittin [16:41:47] dchud | shoot, i thought i heard "the format of death" at first [16:41:47] davidWalker | from now on everyone should say 'Solr' with a French accent [16:41:48] mjg_ | MrDys: aight, KIT. [16:41:48] zoia | This is the story, of a post modern museInternationally minded, with nothing to loseShe was young, hanging out, nobody waiting at homeHer name was passion, she was the enemy of loveAnother fading beauty on the sunset stripx4When our muse abused, of a few substancesHer reputation was cut into piecesWatching the sky where the true stars belonged toShe knew if the sun goes down, it goes up tooAnother fading beauty on (1 more message) [16:41:49] anarchivist | jaf: so much time [16:41:52] pmurray | @karma [16:41:53] zoia | pmurray: Highest karma: "mbklein" (455), "anarchivist" (406), and "edsu" (391). Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (pmurray) are ranked 34 out of 3403. [16:41:55] knickum | @sing Edith Piaf [16:41:58] zoia | L'un près de l'autre, ils étaient là, / Tous deux assis, comme endormis / Au bord de la banquette en bois / Dans la salle d'attente. [16:41:58] jaf | anarchivist: so much itch [16:41:58] mbklein | robcaSSon / anarchivist: http://goo.gl/siXPj [16:41:59] zoia | mbklein: I believe you're referring to <http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/feb/07/california-man-killed-by-armed-bird-at-cockfight/> [16:42:03] MrDys | @sing mc solaar [16:42:04] zoia | On le stoppe sur le périph’ avec sa diligence / Puis on le place à Fresnes pour que Fresnes le freine / Victime des directives de ce que l’on appelle / Le nouveau western [16:42:10] BigD | atz: Sea bass [16:42:10] dchud | @sing serge gainsbourg [16:42:12] zoia | Y’ en a / Marabout / Y’ en a marre [16:42:12] mjg_ | I don't think I got to try the Ichor, sadly. that was the quadrupel? [16:42:15] ndushay | mbklein: werewolf should be narrated with a french accent. [16:42:20] sesuncedu | @sing Marcel Marceau [16:42:22] zoia | sesuncedu: No songs found by Marcel Marceau [16:42:27] dchud | @sing southern all-stars [16:42:28] MrDys | mjg_: yeah, and it was tasty tasty tasty [16:42:29] zoia | dchud: No songs found by southern all-stars [16:42:30] anarchivist | mbklein: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/feb/08/spaghettios-sparked-alleged-samurai-sword-attack/ [16:42:30] sesuncedu | werewolf-- vampire++ [16:42:37] davidWalker | pmurrary: boy, a III system hosted by central IT on solaris would have some serious karma issues [16:42:38] was | anarchivist: Have you tried any Surlys? http://www.surlybrewing.com They sell in cans, so I was afraid to bring on plane. [16:42:38] dchud | @sing richard desjardins [16:42:39] mjg_ | CERVEZA++ [16:42:40] zoia | dchud: No songs found by richard desjardins [16:42:43] mbklein | anarchivist: san_diego++ [16:42:46] dchud | zoia: boo [16:42:47] zoia | dchud: an NDA is required for me to answer that question [16:42:52] pjb1 | @sing the fugs [16:42:53] zoia | pjb1: No songs found by the fugs [16:42:59] ---| <<-- zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:43:04] scolford | @sing jaques brel : la chanson de jacky [16:43:05] anarchivist | was: no, but i've heard good things about it [16:43:05] ecorrado | http://www.abes.fr/abes/en/index.html [16:43:05] zoia | scolford: No lyrics found for la chanson de jacky by jaques brel [16:43:06] gregjansen | @sing Jacque Dutronc [16:43:07] zoia | gregjansen: No songs found by Jacque Dutronc [16:43:09] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: asnagy) [16:43:14] ndushay | no ... more ... metadata ... [16:43:18] scolford | @sing jaques brel : jackie [16:43:19] anarchivist | @sing mc solaar [16:43:19] ---| <<-- fowbar [8e679df6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.103.157.246] has quit (Client Quit) [16:43:19] ---| <--- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has left #code4lib () [16:43:20] zoia | scolford: No lyrics found for jackie by jaques brel [16:43:21] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for Mach 6 by mc solaar [16:43:24] atz | BigD: http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cigar-city-sea-bass/131348/ # this one? [16:43:25] mjg_ | español++ [16:43:32] ndushay | mets-- [16:43:32] anarchivist | atz: yep [16:43:34] ---| ---> mstromin [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [16:43:37] atz | cool [16:43:41] ndushay | too_much_xml-- [16:43:42] robcaSSon | atz: that's the one....tasty [16:43:44] knickum | @sing sebastien tellier [16:43:45] zoia | Amoureuse de Sébastien / (Bruit d'orgasme féminin) / Le soleil brille et brûle mon nom sur ta peau / Amoureuse du vent chaud [16:43:47] erikhatcher | "french french french Solr oui oiu oui" [16:43:47] mjg_ | Have we ever had any folks from Mexico at c4l? [16:43:53] pjb1 | @sing os mutantes [16:43:54] zoia | pjb1: Arrgh! Something went horribly wrong [16:43:58] mjg_ | e.g. that dude from Monterey [16:43:58] scolford | knickum++ [16:44:00] ecorrado | http://www.abes.fr/abes/documents/tef/recommandation/index.html [16:44:00] ndushay | erikhatcher++ [16:44:09] scolford | @love sebastien teller [16:44:11] zoia | scolford: The operation succeeded. scolford loves sebastien teller. [16:44:21] ndushay | what's great about irc is that I can basically talk to myself and pretend others are listening. [16:44:25] eby | mjg_: The most interesting man in the world should keynote [16:44:32] mjg_ | eby++ [16:44:33] scolford | s/teller/tellier oops [16:44:41] ndushay | legos++ [16:44:43] pberry | SUBMIT [16:44:45] bthiell | You guys seem to have very good tastes in French music. Congrats! [16:44:46] knickum | scolford++ [16:44:55] ndushay | @random [16:44:55] zoia | ndushay: Error: The command "random" is available in the LoveHate and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". [16:44:56] mnotess | @sing dunndotta [16:45:00] zoia | mnotess: No songs found by dunndotta [16:45:02] mjg_ | or barring him, royt, the closest we have [16:45:05] ---| ---> yannn [c1344512@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.52.69.18] has joined #code4lib [16:45:07] ---| <<-- BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:45:07] ndushay | @quote random [16:45:08] zoia | ndushay: Quote #1671: "*dbs weeps bitterly for his buttocks" (added by rsinger at 04:40 PM, January 21, 2009) [16:45:13] mbklein | online_checkin [16:45:14] mbklein | ++ [16:45:21] bthiell | AZERTY for the win! [16:45:21] escowles | mot_de_passe++ [16:45:26] jrochkind | hmm, i was wondering the other day what icon to use to mean 'login/login'. I guess the 'power on/off' button is one option. [16:45:26] sesuncedu | @sing Lady Marmalade [16:45:28] ---| ---> BigD [~bigd@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [16:45:28] zoia | sesuncedu: No songs found by Lady Marmalade [16:45:28] mjg_ | keyboard hegemony strikes again. [16:45:29] mtomko | a power button? [16:45:37] freqlurker | @sing fear [16:45:40] zoia | there's a sinister feeling brewing bout a women and her non-stop yap in a couple weeks she'll be stewing bait the hook of a tender trap spend your money on countless reasons brick-a-brack that cannot be used snivel on the ground that she walks on give an inch and that women wants two the trouble today with women the mouth don't stop there's an older one yakity-yack husband's credit cards let her shop there's a (1 more message) [16:45:41] ben_anderson | qwerty-- [16:45:41] mbklein | gestion_des_fiches++ [16:45:43] ---| <<-- spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [16:45:53] BigD | atz: Yep! [16:45:55] pberry | dvorak-- [16:45:55] mnotess | esperanto might have helped us, had it taken off [16:46:11] ejk | You guys seeing a big "Your call time expired" window on the projector? [16:46:17] ---| ---> akohler [a4439833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.67.152.51] has joined #code4lib [16:46:18] mjg_ | anarchivist: I can't get your rendition of the Doobie Bros. out of my head. [16:46:20] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [16:46:23] davidWalker | ejk: I thought I was the only one for a sec [16:46:23] ecorrado | wonders if the ABES people brought any wine [16:46:28] mbklein | @sing The Eagles : Desperanto [16:46:31] zoia | mbklein: No lyrics found for Desperanto by The Eagles [16:46:34] davidWalker | maybe it's only on the stream [16:46:34] julia__ | ejk: I'm seeing it on the stream. [16:46:34] ---| <<-- tseneca [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:46:37] MrDys | mjg_: The fancy beer store by me: hhttp://www.ratebeer.com/place/the-wine-source/4276/ let me know if anything strikes you [16:46:40] ndushay | GONG [16:46:40] pjb1 | mbklein++ [16:46:42] edsu | mbklein++ [16:46:50] ---| <<-- sjmielh [~Adium@78-20-193-98.access.telenet.be] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:46:52] jaf | http://www.werewolf-movies.com/movie.php?MovieID=180 - good french werewolk movie [16:46:54] anarchivist | helrond++ [16:46:55] atz | i'm about toast as far as attention goes [16:46:56] ndushay | and now for something completely different [16:46:57] escowles | ejk: not in person [16:46:58] duspal | lightning_talks++ [16:47:02] bmljenny | When I'm lonely, I drink a fancy beer. [16:47:10] mbklein | helrond++ [16:47:11] ejk | Okay, the stream is messed up [16:47:13] ---| ---> dlovins_web [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [16:47:15] bmljenny | When I want you only I drink a fancy beer... [16:47:16] mjg_ | helrond++ [16:47:16] edsu | livestream dead [16:47:17] cbeer | ejk: sounds like the vision mixer is calling for help [16:47:20] sesuncedu | mnotess: over half of all esperanto speakers were killed in the first year of WWI [16:47:21] ejk | Stream just died [16:47:22] julia__ | ejk: You've got "Video Call" buttons now? [16:47:24] davidWalker | come back stream!!!!!!!!!!! [16:47:29] mbklein | Streeeeeeam! [16:47:31] ---| <--- yannn [c1344512@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.52.69.18] has left #code4lib () [16:47:32] erikhatcher | for cucumber heads.... we're gonna start tinkering with this: (screenshot generation): http://littlebitofcode.com/2009/12/30/headless-selenium-screenshots-with-cucumber [16:47:34] bmljenny | They know. They are on phones. [16:47:34] highermath | White Castle, 630 Birk Rd, Martinsville, IN (765) 349-9750 ‎ [16:47:34] highermath | 1 review - "I don't know how anyone can eat these burgers here. They taste so horrible." [16:47:38] scolford | oh noes! [16:47:38] jaf | yeah, the streaming guys are on the phone trying to fix the stream [16:47:40] akorphan | Well. I just read that examiner review of the keynote. [16:47:40] freqlurker | @sing fear : have a beer with fear [16:47:41] akorphan | Harrumph! [16:47:41] zoia | you say you feel close to death it seems like nothing is left you think the end is near that's why we're here have a beer with fear can't wait till friday night it's time to fuck or fight we'll get a gut full of suds we'll go hammer some cruds have a beer with fear cold ones on my mind oceans of buds" it's a crime so much beer so little time we get right friday night it's time to fuck or fight we'll get a gut full (1 more message) [16:47:45] mjg_ | highermath: SOLD [16:47:49] * highermath can't wait [16:47:49] edsu | back [16:47:50] anarchivist | @sing fear : more beer [16:47:51] ndushay | highermath++ [16:47:51] zoia | More beer, more beer / All I want is more beer / More beer, more beer [16:47:55] davidWalker | horay!!!!!!!! [16:47:57] ejk | Oop, coming back! Yay! [16:48:00] julia__ | live_stream++ #back [16:48:03] pberry | Wow [16:48:04] gregjansen | akorphan: link? [16:48:05] pberry | Qick [16:48:10] freqlurker | anarchivist++ # jynx [16:48:11] ---| ---> tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has joined #code4lib [16:48:12] pmurray | @translationparty [sing fear : more beer] [16:48:16] ejk | Thanks to whomever hit the redial button for the live stream [16:48:20] anna3lc | the site he is showing: http://dlibdev.nyu.edu/tamimentapa/?q=collections_list [16:48:24] zoia | Beer, beer / I / beer is not [16:48:24] scolford | akorphan: harumph indeed [16:48:27] dchud | i'm skipping white castle having done janko's little zagreb last night and saving room for shapiro's in indy tomorrow [16:48:34] bthiell | lbjay left me alone to go cuddle with his baby head. Any good plans for tonight? [16:48:37] mbklein | jaf: Meanwhile, the phone guys are in the stream trying to fix the phones [16:48:37] edsu | this livestream is setting the bar hella high [16:48:38] akorphan | http://www.examiner.com/metadata-in-national/review-of-diane-hillmann-s-keynote-at-code4lib-2011-review (repost from a bit ago) [16:48:39] mjg_ | MrDys: good lord. i'll have to do some srs internets research on those beers. [16:48:45] yo_bj | @sing drupal song [16:48:47] zoia | yo_bj: No songs found by drupal song [16:48:51] ejk | live_stream++ [16:48:52] bmljenny | FYI, the streaming box has a conference ribbon glued to it called "big cheese" [16:48:53] dchud | labor_activist_papers_at_code4lib++ [16:49:00] mjg_ | MrDys: "any of those" is my answer now. [16:49:00] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:49:01] MrDys | mjg_: what are you? a librarian or somethin? [16:49:04] pjb1 | @sing bottle rockets : indianapolis [16:49:06] zoia | pjb1: No lyrics found for indianapolis by bottle rockets [16:49:09] pberry | When i hear content types I get horrible sharepoint flashbacks [16:49:09] ---| <<-- kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:49:13] ---| ---> mbklein1 [~Adium@156-56-59-13.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:14] ---| <--- dmc186_ [~dmc186@156-56-59-51.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:49:14] ---| ---> fumi_ [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:15] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:15] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:16] dlovins | This is turning into a really nice mashup: http://hubgit.github.com/2011/01/code4lib/ [16:49:19] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:49:20] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: pmcgreen) [16:49:21] ---| ---> scotthanrath_ [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:21] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:49:22] ---| ---> dmc186 [~Adium@156-56-59-51.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:49:22] ---| <<-- fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:49:22] ---| User: *** fumi_ is now known as fumi [16:49:23] akorphan | scolford: It's like he can't figure out that maybe the reason Dianne hates MARC is the same reason we end up talking about how to handle it so muhc. 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[16:49:49] erikhatcher | hillel++ [16:49:52] cbeer | dlovins: s/Bloomington, IL/Bloomington, IN/ [16:50:00] erikhatcher | stream died :( [16:50:02] ---| ---> spaldo [christophe@156-56-59-44.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:50:08] anna3lc | dlovins: that's cool who made it? [16:50:10] dlovins | cbeer: huh? [16:50:12] erikhatcher | it's back [16:50:19] julia__ | erickhatcher: Stream is good for me -- that one must have been just you? [16:50:20] ---| ---> jeanrri [8094d697@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.148.214.151] has joined #code4lib [16:50:24] ---| <<-- akohler [a4439833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.67.152.51] has quit (Client Quit) [16:50:33] dchud | anna3lc, dlovins: fresco made that, right? [16:50:37] sesuncedu | dchud: Labor archivist papers at SAA ? Different question. [16:50:45] mbklein | Stream came back on, kicked mbklein off. That's not a good trade. [16:50:54] dlovins | anna3lc: Not sure. Hoping someone would say [16:51:05] edsu | protovis would probably work better for that than manyeyes [16:51:17] dlovins | protovis++ [16:51:21] scolford | mbklein: you've been replaced by a live stream [16:51:24] ndushay | decasm: you might want to indicate on the wiki how many people the reservation accommodates [16:51:40] dchud | mbklein: please collect your things and exit the premises [16:51:42] pberry | Better than being replaced by a tiny shell script [16:51:45] ---| ---> zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:51:50] ejk | @decide mbklein live_stream [16:51:51] zoia | ejk: go with mbklein live_stream [16:51:51] robcaSSon | dlovins, anna3lc: looks like fresco, aka Alf Eaton [16:51:54] charper | helrond++ [16:51:57] ejk | @decide mbklein or live_stream [16:51:58] zoia | ejk: go with mbklein [16:51:58] anarchivist | helrond++ [16:52:03] anarchivist | interns++ [16:52:07] ---| ---> sebheath [~sfsh@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #code4lib [16:52:10] mjg_ | eby++ [16:52:10] ejk | eby++ [16:52:15] dlovins | anna3lc++ [16:52:17] * akorphan has been replaced by an artificially intelligent blob of self-modifying code. [16:52:20] ecorrado | aadl++ [16:52:28] edsu | php++ [16:52:29] davidWalker | eby++ [16:52:30] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [16:52:30] scolford | aadl++ [16:52:30] ---| User: *** NoelDiaz_ is now known as NoelDiaz [16:52:31] julia__ | Is that a post-it note on his shirt? It really looks like a post-it note on the stream. [16:52:34] mbklein | eby++ [16:52:35] ccurry | php+- [16:52:38] akorphan | stuff++ [16:52:40] edsu | better than java at least :-) [16:52:41] ejk | julia__: checkout card [16:52:44] robcaSSon | eby++ [16:52:46] BigD | eby made a lot of those beer events happen [16:52:47] erikhatcher | php+- [16:52:49] erikhatcher | eby++ [16:52:50] decasm_ | ndushay: eek. on it. [16:52:51] was | simple_tools_on_github++ [16:52:52] ccurry | eby++ [16:52:56] mjg_ | eby++ # lulz [16:52:56] akorphan | julia__:Maybe it's the top of a robot. [16:53:01] mjg_ | "shove the shit in" [16:53:01] edsu | cursing++ [16:53:03] BillDueber | Language... [16:53:09] robcaSSon | @love cursing [16:53:10] jaf | wait, can this talk be broadcast? :-p [16:53:11] timmcgeary | edgy [16:53:11] zoia | robcaSSon: The operation succeeded. robcaSSon loves cursing. [16:53:12] akorphan | Code4Lib is a family-friendly conference. [16:53:17] scolford | minimal_things_in_the_ils++ [16:53:17] * MrDys snorts [16:53:19] ndushay | accent++ [16:53:19] ranti | [bleep] [16:53:21] ---| ---> helrond [~helrond@156-56-58-25.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:53:23] timmcgeary | @ana shove the shit in [16:53:24] zoia | timmcgeary: Thievish, honest [16:53:26] pberry | profanity++ ? [16:53:28] yo_bj | I just lost my innocence with this talk [16:53:28] ---| ---> yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:53:31] MrDys | @redact shove the shit in [16:53:32] zoia | MrDys: shove the shit in [16:53:37] eefcee | zoia++ [16:53:40] anna3lc | yes to using catalogers to chose new data sources [16:53:40] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Client Quit) [16:53:40] decasm_ | is tburton-west in channel? [16:53:40] mjg_ | so eby actually works? [16:53:41] akorphan | zoia++ [16:53:44] ---| <<-- highermath [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Quit: highermath) [16:53:46] edsu | drupal7 [16:53:47] erikhatcher | so he needs that Couch + Blacklight solution..... what's that called? [16:53:47] awead | zoia++ [16:53:47] mjg_ | I'm kind of blown away. [16:53:48] erikhatcher |  [16:53:49] edsu | drupal7++ [16:53:55] cbeer | decasm_: tbw, no? [16:53:58] ---| ---> tseneca [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has joined #code4lib [16:53:59] ndushay | decasm: tbw is here [16:54:00] was | eby++ [16:54:04] dchud | 'tis a word of curse! [16:54:12] MrDys | erikhatcher: it's called a gsf_ consulting project [16:54:14] ndushay | decasm: ask if they'll take 8? [16:54:15] decasm_ | tbw? = tburton west? [16:54:33] ---| ---> mcritchlow [~MatthewCr@156-56-58-218.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:54:33] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has quit (Quit: JodiS) [16:54:37] mbklein | @redact [last --from [someone]] [16:54:37] zoia | mbklein: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. [16:54:39] ndushay | also - put time and meeting place, while you are at it ... (i'm bossy) [16:54:42] eefcee | open_editing++ [16:54:49] ndushay | decasm: also - put time and meeting place, while you are at it ... (i'm bossy) [16:54:58] scolford | oh god our staff can't even link the right items to bibs [16:55:02] mjg_ | ceahtalog [16:55:04] robcaSSon | aadl++ [16:55:06] pmurray | mbklein: Damn lurkers.... [16:55:07] mbklein | @who said it was all [someone]'s fault [16:55:07] zoia | timmcgeary said it was all BillDueber 's fault. [16:55:26] ejk | FYI cover image editing is done through the OPAC with drupal [16:55:30] ecorrado | @duel aadl_cataloging rda [16:55:30] zoia | ecorrado: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [16:55:34] ndushay | which talk is this??? [16:55:45] ndushay | woofy++ [16:55:47] MrDys | yes. make a came out of it [16:55:50] ecorrado | @rate aadl_cataloging rda [16:55:51] MrDys | came? game [16:55:51] mbklein | whupf++ [16:55:53] sesuncedu | Frarmville [16:55:54] zoia | ecorrado: aadl cataloging: ?; rda: 9.7. rda rocks! [16:55:58] davidWalker | stuff++ [16:56:03] erikhatcher | ndushay: aren't you in the same room? [16:56:05] MrDys | farmville your metadata [16:56:05] edsu | ndushay: Does Anyone Else Hate This Shit :-) [16:56:05] ecorrado | zoia-- [16:56:08] mbklein | bess++ [16:56:10] mbklein | stanford++ [16:56:12] timmcgeary | bess++ [16:56:12] anna3lc | stuff++ [16:56:15] ndushay | thank you edsu [16:56:16] edsu | eby++ [16:56:16] timmcgeary | @karma bess [16:56:17] zoia | timmcgeary: Karma for "bess" has been increased 77 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 76. [16:56:17] atz | bess++ [16:56:18] ejk | eby++ [16:56:20] pberry | California represent [16:56:23] scolford | eby++ [16:56:27] erikhatcher | bess++ [16:56:30] mbklein | hydracamp++ [16:56:31] jtgorman | bess++ [16:56:31] ccurry | bess++ [16:56:33] sesuncedu | Was this talk tested [16:56:35] jtgorman | hydracamp++ [16:56:44] ---| ---> msmorul [~toaster@loach.umiacs.umd.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:56:47] edsu | no, no, no, no [16:56:50] ecorrado | sesuncedu++ [16:56:50] edsu | :-) [16:56:52] ndushay | "yes, yes, yes, no" [16:56:56] atz | "California... knows how to paaarty..." [16:56:58] sesuncedu | Madd skillsetz [16:57:01] alxp | hydracamp was fun [16:57:03] timmcgeary | There's a roller coaster in PA called "Hydra's Revenge" [16:57:19] flyingzumwalt | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed [16:57:20] ccurry | CA+++ [16:57:23] ndushay | staying home and not going to hydracamp due to a back injury was not fun. [16:57:24] KingNightWolf | timmcgeary++ [16:57:24] timmcgeary | maybe that can be next location for Hydra camp [16:57:38] jrochkind | flyingzumwalt: no training to send them to? You should offer for fee training. [16:57:40] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:57:50] edsu | a real curriculum would be good, but a fedora curriculum, meh [16:57:53] mtomko | is nunchuck skills on the list? [16:57:54] timmcgeary | back_injury-- [16:57:57] erikhatcher | training curriculum ++ [16:57:58] mjg_ | crap, are skills required nowadays? [16:58:06] mjg_ | welp, I guess maybe I can see if WC is hiring. [16:58:06] sesuncedu | Digital curation curricula [16:58:08] sesuncedu | ... [16:58:09] flyingzumwalt | jrochkind: we are offering. at hydracamp [16:58:15] jrochkind | righto. [16:58:18] mbklein | huge_manatees++ [16:58:20] jaron1 | this_idea++ [16:58:27] ejk | hasta mañana, amigos [16:58:28] * pberry raises hand -- that's me [16:58:29] pmurray | Humanities grad students -- poor suckers. [16:58:31] sesuncedu | mbklein: need habitats [16:58:32] anna3lc | @karma this [16:58:33] zoia | anna3lc: Karma for "this" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. [16:58:36] jtgorman | huh, I hadn't realized that the curriculum had gotten that far... [16:58:38] ---| <--- ejk [~kloostere@odie.aadl.org] has left #code4lib () [16:58:46] mbklein | @karma that [16:58:46] zoia | mbklein: Karma for "that" has been increased 21 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 17. [16:58:49] ---| <<-- artunit [~chatzilla@arhyno-8.libf.uwindsor.ca] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:58:51] jrochkind | jtgorman: you are just looking at the list of headings, they all have empty bodies. :) [16:58:57] pmurray | @fight this that [16:58:58] zoia | pmurray: this: 3080000000, that: 2440000000 [16:58:59] was | Can these skills be pinned down before they need to change? [16:59:02] jtgorman | jrochkind: aaahhhhh [16:59:03] sesuncedu | http://ils.unc.edu/digccurr/ [16:59:04] ---| <<-- mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:59:06] timmcgeary | @ana guide for the perplexed [16:59:06] zoia | timmcgeary: Huge if deplored expert [16:59:09] tokeee | ".pdf is an unwanted file type" on the wiki. Oh well... SlideShare it is [16:59:11] dlovins | bess++ [16:59:12] escowles | @karma chameleon [16:59:12] zoia | escowles: Karma for "chameleon" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0. [16:59:14] mbklein | zoia++ [16:59:21] scolford | zoia++ [16:59:24] jrochkind | inappropriate? [16:59:29] akorphan | @karma dogma [16:59:29] KingNightWolf | this is a good idea [16:59:29] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "dogma" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. [16:59:30] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:59:31] edsu | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed [16:59:31] escowles | it comes and goes, i guess [16:59:33] pberry | The royal we [16:59:33] sesuncedu | purple x (all through my brain) [16:59:43] alxp | I like the use of lightning talk as a call o action [16:59:48] wickr | tokeee: pdfs should be able to go on code4lib.org [16:59:49] scolford | escowles++ [16:59:50] mjg_ | @dunno add HELP I HAVE TO USE MARC WHAT IS THAT [16:59:50] zoia | mjg_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [16:59:50] mbklein | escowles++ [16:59:50] timmcgeary | @ana What is MARC? [16:59:51] zoia | timmcgeary: Charm as wit [16:59:53] akorphan | call_to_action++ [16:59:56] ndushay | marc is a well-meaning, but ineffective guy. [17:00:04] ranti | centralized_guides++ [17:00:10] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [17:00:14] ---| <<-- fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:00:16] pmurray | Call to action: great way to end the lightning talks. [17:00:19] timmcgeary | weird_concepts++ [17:00:21] julia__ | MARC is neither charming nor witty. Zoia fails this time. [17:00:22] freqlurker | this would be really helpful [17:00:24] tokeee | wickr: Not on the lightning talk page they don't. At least not for me [17:00:25] mjg_ | BigD: file this page away for our ccamp pow-wow [17:00:25] ---| <<-- Babs [9bf60207@gateway/web/freenode/ip.155.246.2.7] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:00:33] pberry | Marc got promoted. Dilbert principle at work... [17:00:36] sesuncedu | What about the things I wish I didn't know [17:00:37] jaf | guide_for_perplexed++ [17:00:37] wickr | tokeee: on the wiki? or the code4lib.org main site? [17:00:39] erikhatcher | who the heck is this MARC guy? [17:00:42] alxp | bess++ [17:00:44] BigD | mjg_: Yessiree [17:00:44] ndushay | pberry++ [17:00:44] ---| <<-- chumpanzee [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:00:45] MrDys | enterprise-wide apprenticeships [17:00:46] freqlurker | we out [17:00:51] harvel | bess++ [17:00:52] was | howtos would be a great addition, too [17:00:53] charper | What a really good idea... [17:00:53] eefcee | bess++ [17:00:55] sesuncedu | enterprise scale curricula [17:00:55] anna3lc | everyone grab yr pitchforks! 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[17:01:08] tokeee | wickr: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php?title=2011_Lightning_Talks_Signup [17:01:11] BillDueber | bess++ [17:01:17] ---| <<-- ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:01:21] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:01:25] erikhatcher | NewbCamp at c4l12 [17:01:26] scolford | bess++ [17:01:26] * timmcgeary claps [17:01:27] ---| <<-- jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer) [17:01:27] ---| <<-- jeanrri [8094d697@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.148.214.151] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:01:29] jtgorman | jrochkind: I was at the bar when the idea came up [17:01:30] * davidWalker claps [17:01:31] mjg_ | mcdonald1 is actually a kinda OK guy, maybe. [17:01:31] bmljenny | Bigcheese++ [17:01:36] eefcee | live_stream++ [17:01:40] wickr | tokeee: ok, yeah that's not really set up for hosting files, I'd just do slideshare for now [17:01:44] eby | robcaSSon: What time we meeting [17:01:44] eefcee | lightning_talks++ [17:01:45] edsu | bess++ [17:01:45] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:01:49] BigD | San diego thanks you [17:01:49] eby | Or mjg_ [17:01:51] mnotess | @karma marc [17:01:51] zoia | mnotess: Karma for "marc" has been increased 0 times and decreased 8 times for a total karma of -8. [17:01:53] sesuncedu | boo werewoofs [17:01:53] wickr | fwiw, the "official record" is supposed to be more code4lib.org pages [17:01:56] ---| <--- dmc186 [~Adium@156-56-59-51.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [17:02:00] robcaSSon | eby: want to just meet with the rest of the jackasses in the lobby? 6:30? [17:02:00] timmcgeary | run, mcdonald, run [17:02:04] sesuncedu | @karma karma [17:02:04] zoia | sesuncedu: Highest karma: "mbklein" (457), "anarchivist" (407), and "edsu" (391). Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (sesuncedu) are ranked 14 out of 3437. [17:02:06] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [17:02:06] mbklein | BigD: San Diego is no longer "far" by code4libcon standards. [17:02:07] pmurray | marc-- [17:02:10] davidWalker | dang, now I have to go back to work [17:02:12] tokeee | wickr: Mads is on it, thanks [17:02:13] ---| <<-- rnanders_ [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: rnanders_) [17:02:14] ---| <<-- mstromin [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:02:16] was | Poor marc [17:02:17] ---| <<-- rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: rjhoyle) [17:02:19] mjg_ | eby: I'm gathering with the white castle people, leaving lobby at 5:30 [17:02:20] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:02:21] mbklein | davidWalker: DON'T DO IT. IT'S A TRAP. 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[17:36:56] anarchivist | pberry: i think we have two people who are willing to drive [17:36:57] ---| ---> bthiell [0cb84c58@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.184.76.88] has joined #code4lib [17:37:30] pberry | anarchivist: Nice, would love to grab a slot [17:37:54] anarchivist | http://francisanderson.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/mavc-v-apple.jpg [17:38:42] ---| <<-- dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dan64) [17:38:54] ---| ---> tdonohue [9c383b2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.43] has joined #code4lib [17:38:54] ---| <<-- srmiles_ [~stevermil@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: srmiles_) [17:38:55] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [17:39:45] eby | robcasson, wickr and i are probably going to try walking in about 5 minutes [17:40:04] pberry | For the record, I don't shop at foot locker [17:40:08] ---| <<-- tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [17:40:53] dileshni | anyone know how far of a walk Little Tibet is from the hotel? [17:41:07] anarchivist | dileshni: 10 minutes. [17:41:12] anarchivist | dileshni: it's pretty manageable. [17:41:29] eby | .6 miles according to google [17:41:41] dileshni | anarchivist: that's not bad. thanks [17:42:07] dileshni | although limping it might take about double the time [17:42:47] pberry | The hypothermia will slow you down as well [17:43:07] dileshni | pberry: yes, that too [17:43:18] dileshni | it's sooo cold outside, and i'm from canada! 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[17:53:01] ndushay | meet in lobby at 7pm. [17:53:25] * tokeee thinks [17:53:28] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@216.216.225.10] has joined #code4lib [17:53:28] * tokeee ponders [17:54:04] tokeee | Finch's = being with a fair amount of great people that I've already spend a fair amount of time with at this conference [17:55:07] davidWalker | pberry: you a college bball fan? Or just the spectacle of the unc-dook [17:55:27] pberry | Spectacle [17:55:40] pberry | I love a gathering [17:55:55] ndushay | tokeee: so I know you? [17:56:00] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ecorrado) [17:56:08] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #code4lib [17:56:31] tokeee | ndushay: Nah, more Tom and Bill (I think? I alway mix up nicks'n'faces) [17:56:42] ndushay | Bill is bowing out. [17:56:49] ndushay | he has a conflict. [17:57:28] ---| <<-- snail [~stuart@130.195.179.88] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:57:40] tokeee | ndushay: Actually my main reservation is that I afraid that Tom thinks I'm stalking him [17:57:56] ndushay | tokeee: come join us. [17:58:19] ndushay | tom is a big boy and he can sit far away from you. [17:58:39] tokeee | He's taller than me anyway. I'll come. [17:58:40] ---| <<-- cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cbeer) [17:58:56] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@194.46.254.41] has joined #code4lib [17:58:56] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@194.46.254.41] has quit (Changing host) [17:58:56] ---| ---> JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has joined #code4lib [17:59:12] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:59:13] tokeee | I'll just cancel the Irish Lion thingie - I thought the crowd was getting too big anyway [17:59:58] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [18:00:08] tokeee | ndushay: I'll just tell my colleague Mads so that he does not panic of fear of being on his own (who am I kidding - I'm the one panicking) [18:00:20] ndushay | there are two spots. [18:00:35] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [18:00:36] ndushay | sign up for 'em on the wiki http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities [18:00:54] tokeee | 1 minute [18:01:52] ---| ---> cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [18:01:54] JodiS | is there a slideshare event yet? [18:02:24] ---| ---> cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [18:02:31] ---| <--- cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [18:02:41] anarchivist | @translationparty Once Mafia reached the Far East, it found the perfect breeding ground in China's late-night clubs. Zachary Mexico, in his book China Underground, details how Mafia addicts now play all night, fuelled by Red Bull and cigarettes. These aren't amiable afterdinner diversions, but commercialised Mafia dens, with electronic scoreboards, pretty young hostesses and techno music blaring out to cover up any movements during the "n [18:02:41] zoia | anarchivist: Error: No closing quotation [18:03:06] anarchivist | @translationparty Once Mafia reached the Far East, it found the perfect breeding ground in China's late-night clubs. Zachary Mexico, in his book China Underground, details how Mafia addicts now play all night, fuelled by Red Bull and cigarettes. These aren't amiable afterdinner diversions, but commercialised Mafia dens, with electronic scoreboards, pretty young hostesses and techno music blaring out to cover up any movements during the "n [18:03:06] zoia | anarchivist: Error: No closing quotation [18:03:23] tokeee | ndushay: Mads nature matches mine. We're both coming. See you at 7 [18:03:24] anarchivist | @translationparty Once Mafia reached the Far East, it found the perfect breeding ground in China's late-night clubs. Zachary Mexico, in his book China Underground, details how Mafia addicts now play all night, fuelled by Red Bull and cigarettes. These aren't amiable afterdinner diversions, but commercialised Mafia dens, with electronic scoreboards, pretty young hostesses and techno music blaring out to cover up any movements during the "n [18:03:24] zoia | anarchivist: Error: No closing quotation [18:03:30] anarchivist | zoia-- [18:03:42] ndushay | tokeee: yay! [18:04:08] tokeee | Expect bad jokes and equally bad diagrams scribbled on napkins [18:04:19] cbeer | @translationparty Once Mafia reached the Far East, it found the perfect breeding ground in China's late-night clubs. Zachary Mexico, in his book China Underground, details how Mafia addicts now play all night, fuelled by Red Bull and cigarettes. These aren't amiable afterdinner diversions, but commercialised Mafia dens, with electronic scoreboards, pretty young hostesses and techno music blaring out to cover up any movements [18:04:51] * tokeee really need a nick2photo-service [18:05:13] zoia | cbeer: You have reached the perfect breeding ground for China's nightclubs are found in the Far East, it is mafia. Zakarimekishiko underground mafia books are addictive Tyuugoku Please enter the details of how to play a night fueled by Red Bull and cigarettes. Dejitarusainejitekuno mob dinner, music, pretty young hostess, peaceful transition are covered in one of the complaints of the ring to move these Music Therapy [18:06:23] pberry | tokeee: Yes! 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[21:08:13] akorphan | Well, when I say "repository" I don't mean it in the big-R Repository sense [21:08:31] akorphan | Just a place where like-minded coders can share and provide access to their code, maybe with some project categories and the like [21:08:32] edsu | we did talk about doing something like that for svn a few years ago [21:08:52] edsu | but never really executed on it [21:09:02] jaron | setting up a github organization would be easy [21:09:43] jaron | akorphan: but if it needs to extend beyond github, then wasn't lyrasis talking about some sort of registry? [21:09:50] edsu | yeah, i'm surprised nobody has done it yet [21:09:56] akorphan | I thought I heard someone mentioned something like that [21:09:59] akorphan | Anyway, I have the perfect name [21:10:03] akorphan | "Lib4Code" [21:10:09] edsu | there are a few project specific organizations, like ruby-marc, and whatnot [21:10:10] akorphan | or maybe not [21:10:14] jaron | akorphan: folks still have their code all over the place [21:10:26] jaron | blacklight has an organization [21:10:33] edsu | yeah, blacklight too [21:10:36] ---| ---> ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:10:47] edsu | i think those sorts of orgs make more sense that code4lib for some reason [21:10:57] akorphan | But if someone says, "I need an open-source ILS. Say, what are my choices?" It would be great if there was a place they could just go and look. [21:10:58] edsu | code4lib seems to abstract somehow [21:11:02] jaron | code4lib is a pretty big umbrella for lots of folks to have commit rights [21:11:18] ---| ---> _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:11:27] jaron | usually there's some sort of process to get commit rights in a community [21:11:35] edsu | yeah, i'm not sure it's a great idea to spread commit rights that wide [21:11:49] ---| <<-- _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:11:52] ---| ---> AndIrc_ [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:11:56] edsu | especially when forking and merging are cheap already [21:12:07] jaron | now it would be nice to know at least where the code for c4l stuff like the dieboldatron are [21:12:27] jaron | right. forking is so easy these days [21:13:13] jaron | keeping up with it all the projects out there and finding out about new ones can be a challenge but hopefully that's the sort of thing lyrasis folks were talking about [21:13:25] jaron | freshmeat for library open source [21:13:50] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:13:55] edsu | yeah, that's how oss4lib started kinda [21:14:06] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:14:57] jaron | either takes everyone contributing to something like oss4lib or someone doing the work of looking out for it all [21:16:05] edsu | yeah [21:16:20] edsu | it would be easier on github [21:16:31] ---| <<-- AndIrc_ [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:16:37] ---| ---> _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:16:42] ---| ---> ryscher [~chatzilla@156-56-58-232.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:17:32] ---| <<-- mattriehle [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: mattriehle) [21:18:22] edsu | i tend to google for stuff that i need instead of going to a directory [21:18:55] edsu | but, it would be good for the code4lib community to be able to point at a set of projects or whatnot and say that they helped foster them somehow [21:18:56] jaron | google and if I can't find, then I ask. most of the time there's nothing library specific about what I need [21:19:08] edsu | yeah, same here [21:19:18] edsu | it's a good sign that you are doing things right :-) [21:20:11] jaron | heh, yeah [21:21:07] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:23:48] ---| <<-- _jtgormanph [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [21:23:50] ---| ---> AndIrc__ [~android@156-56-58-205.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [21:28:43] ---| User: *** harvel is now known as harvel_ [21:39:27] ---| ---> alxp [~aoneill@blk-30-155-121.eastlink.ca] has joined #code4lib [21:39:43] alxp | @karma this_idea [21:39:43] zoia | alxp: Karma for "this_idea" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 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Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (chickmarkley) are ranked 483 out of 3439. [08:03:23] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:04:04] ---| <<-- iand [~iand@internal.talis.com] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [08:09:12] ---| <<-- alxp [~aoneill@blk-30-155-121.eastlink.ca] has quit (Quit: alxp) [08:10:46] ---| <<-- pjb1 [~Adium@216.216.225.10] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [08:12:14] gmcharlt | @quote random [08:12:14] zoia | gmcharlt: Quote #297: "<edsu> if the profession is to survive it needs to go through a metamorphosis of kafkaesque proportions" (added by ksclarke at 05:19 PM, May 08, 2006) [08:13:02] ---| <<-- srmiles [~stevermil@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:13:38] ---| ---> rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has joined #code4lib [08:16:57] edsu | rsinger: you have the new mogwai i take it? [08:18:48] edsu | rsinger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_Will_Never_Die,_But_You_Will ? 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[08:25:32] MrDys | edsu: indeed, sounds like good waitin' on a plane music [08:26:19] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [08:26:35] ---| <<-- yegusa [~chatzilla@156-56-58-84.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [08:26:49] ---| ---> ejk [~kloostere@odie.aadl.org] has joined #code4lib [08:27:51] ---| <<-- eefcee [~eefcee@jkolb12.dsl.visi.com] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:27:54] ---| ---> eefcee_ [~eefcee@jkolb12.dsl.visi.com] has joined #code4lib [08:28:12] rsinger | edsu: i do not [08:33:54] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@173-15-55-74-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [08:34:27] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [08:35:27] akorphan | HELLLOOOOO BLOOOMINGTON! ARE YOU READY TO RAWK?! [08:36:04] MrDys | akorphan: http://hungoverowls.tumblr.com/post/3106663511/i-will-get-up-off-this-floor-when-im-good-and [08:36:15] anarchivist1 | @hussein poopml [08:36:16] zoia | anarchivist1: Homo pulpiness [08:36:20] eby | mjgiarlo: there? [08:36:21] anarchivist1 | zoia-- [08:36:26] ---| User: *** anarchivist1 is now known as anarchivist [08:36:26] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@156-56-58-24.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [08:36:26] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [08:36:31] akorphan | Well. That answers that question. [08:36:43] ---| <<-- iand1 [~iand@internal.talis.com] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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(added by anarchivist at 05:44 PM, May 20, 2010) [08:41:24] edsu | rsinger, MrDys let me know when you've got it, so I don't leave it hanging out there :-) [08:42:42] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:42:48] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [08:43:19] ---| ---> davidWalker [~chatzilla@cpe-76-176-169-253.san.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [08:43:34] ---| ---> ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:43:37] ---| <<-- MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:43:40] ---| <<-- ben_anderson [9c383b15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.21] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [08:45:12] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [08:45:54] anarchivist | if you'll be around after the conference ends today, sign up here: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_social_activities#Thursday_.28and_beyond.29 [08:46:13] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[08:49:40] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:51:31] pberry | @weather 47408 [08:51:32] zoia | pberry: Forecast for Bloomington, IN: Today: Sunny. Highs around 20. West winds around 5 mph shifting to the southwest in the afternoon. Lowest wind chill readings 6 below to 4 above zero until midday. Tonight: Clear then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 10. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings 4 below to 6 above zero. Friday: Not as cold. Partly cloudy. Highs in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 5 to 15 mph. (1 more message) [08:51:41] eby | mjgiarlo: You know if my coat is still in hosp or if someone grabbed it [08:52:26] ---| ---> MrDys [MrDys@156-56-58-27.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:52:35] ejk | @weather 48104 [08:52:41] zoia | ejk: Forecast for Ann Arbor, MI: Early This Morning: Mostly clear. Temperatures falling to -4...with wind chills 10 to 20 below. Light and variable winds. Today: Mostly sunny. Highs 13 to 17...with wind chills around 5 below. Southwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Tonight: Mostly clear during the evening. Partly cloudy overnight. Lows 3 below to 3 above...with wind chills around 10 below. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Friday: Partly (1 more message) [08:53:21] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:30] MrDys | edsu: vielen dank [08:53:31] freqlurker | @weather 94949 [08:53:33] zoia | freqlurker: Forecast for Novato, CA: Today: Sunny. Highs in the 60s to lower 70s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. Tonight: Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Friday: Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s to mid 70s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Friday Night: Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 30s to mid 40s. Light winds. Saturday: Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s to mid (1 more message) [08:53:37] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [08:54:15] pberry | @weather 95929 [08:54:16] zoia | pberry: Forecast for Chico, CA: Today: Patchy frost in the morning. Sunny. Highs 60 to 68. Northwest winds up to 10 mph. Tonight: Clear. Lows 31 to 39. Light winds. Friday: Patchy frost in the morning. Mostly sunny. Highs 63 to 69. Light winds. Friday Night: Mostly clear. Lows 36 to 44. Light winds. Saturday: Mostly sunny. Highs 62 to 68. Light winds becoming south around 10 mph in the afternoon. [08:54:19] ---| ---> ben_anderson [4086aeef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.174.239] has joined #code4lib [08:54:30] pberry | Great. Fog. 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ITS FUCKING COLD [08:56:35] harvel | @quote random [08:56:35] zoia | harvel: Quote #816: "<mjgiarlo> I guess drink OR cuss would be fine. teetotalers are welcome as long as they have bad attitudes." (added by ksclarke at 01:47 PM, April 06, 2007) [08:56:36] ---| ---> alxp [~alxp@PC044.ROBLIB.UPEI.CA] has joined #code4lib [08:58:00] ---| ---> gravm [~gravm@aaladm17.lib.unc.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:12] ---| ---> mtomko [~mtomko@156-56-59-22.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:53] MrDys | @forecast 21218 [08:58:53] zoia | MrDys: 23°?! ITS FUCKING COLD [08:59:31] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:59:34] ---| ---> bobbiFromOIS [~chatzilla@156-56-59-15.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:59:46] ---| ---> anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:00:00] anarchivist | @quote random [09:00:00] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1268: "< jaron> c4l does seem to be a growing group of experts of supybot plugins" (added by edsu at 03:00 PM, March 20, 2008) [09:00:31] ---| ---> jillsexton [9c383a46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.70] has joined #code4lib [09:00:33] lbjay | live_stream++ # w00p [09:00:34] ---| ---> rajnb [9c383a2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.45] has joined #code4lib [09:00:38] ---| ---> pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has joined #code4lib [09:00:44] pberry | Farm-raised supybot plugins? 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[09:03:43] * lbjay is listening to tech difficulties [09:03:46] BillDueber | davidWalker: I like being able to log exactly what I want to log :-) [09:03:47] ---| ---> demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has joined #code4lib [09:03:50] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:52] BillDueber | davidWalker: http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/dead-easy-but-extreme-ajax-logging-in-our-vufind-install/ [09:03:53] davidWalker | BillDueber: totally [09:03:55] ---| ---> anna3lc [~3lc@156-56-58-65.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:56] robcaSSon | davidWalker: as long as it doesn't cut into my ability to leave work and come to the conf, i'm cool with it ;) [09:04:00] ---| ---> jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:16] ---| ---> cbeer [~chris@156-56-58-181.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:20] gsf | lbjay: you home already? 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[09:04:50] ---| ---> yo_bj [9c383ad4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.212] has joined #code4lib [09:04:52] ---| ---> ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:59] pberry | On 3 everybody yell "HI DAVE" [09:05:01] gsf | lbjay: you sneaky devil you [09:05:12] ---| ---> decasm_ [~decasm@156-56-58-30.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:05:26] jrochkind | jaf: pretty please the email addresses? All I need is the email addresses, they aren't discoverable by me on the public web. [09:05:42] jaf | jrochkind: I will look for them now [09:05:46] pberry | BillDueber: Love the idea of a common stat format [09:05:49] jrochkind | jaf: thank you! [09:05:54] davidWalker | BillDueber++ [09:05:55] ---| ---> mlevy [~mlevy@156-56-58-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:05:56] lbjay | @later tell mjgiarlo suburbs_of_the_chin++ [09:05:56] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [09:06:05] anna3lc_ | BillDueber: nice rss icon! [09:06:30] davidWalker | BillDueber: I liked your old blog design better [09:06:32] davidWalker | sorry [09:06:35] ---| ---> BigD [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:13] edsu | BillDueber++ # i like it too [09:07:13] pmurray | Hmmm -- do I dare try to update my wordpress install while trying to listen to code4lib talks? [09:07:18] lbjay | BillDueber: is there overlap between your stats idea and SUSHI? [09:07:23] edsu | the common stat format idea [09:07:24] ---| ---> zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:07:34] akorphan | In my world, everything overlaps with sushi. [09:07:50] jrochkind | anyone know, what's the best way to send a large file to a stranger over the internet? [09:07:53] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [09:07:58] ---| ---> was [~wschneide@156-56-58-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:00] akorphan | jrochkind: how large? [09:08:00] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb695c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.199] has joined #code4lib [09:08:03] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:04] MrDys | @sing stranger danger [09:08:04] BillDueber | lbjay: I was working in a total knowledge vacuum. I should go back and make better decisions [09:08:05] zoia | MrDys: No songs found by stranger danger [09:08:08] jrochkind | akorphan: like, a couple music albums [09:08:14] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has quit (Quit: rjw) [09:08:16] ---| ---> webczarina [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has joined #code4lib [09:08:30] lbjay | BillDueber: i know very little about sushi/counter [09:08:31] jrochkind | woah, the slides are making me dizzy [09:08:32] akorphan | jrochkind: Gdocs now allows arbitrary filetype uploads up to [mumble mumble size] [09:08:33] ---| ---> Tokee [~tokee@156-56-58-42.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:34] ---| ---> artunit [~chatzilla@arhyno-8.libf.uwindsor.ca] has joined #code4lib [09:08:35] ---| ---> dileshni [~chatzilla@156-56-58-236.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:35] gsf | prezi-- [09:08:40] akorphan | jrochkind: Also, there's dropbox [09:08:49] jtgorman | this is awesome, but just a touch too fast [09:08:49] jrochkind | akorphan: cool thanks [09:08:53] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:08:58] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:09:05] lbjay | how was breakfast? [09:09:16] anna3lc | everybody++ [09:09:19] * BillDueber will make a post to c4l list about a common stats format in the next couple weeks. [09:09:23] jtgorman | I'd love to know how this was made [09:09:39] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [09:09:49] MrDys | wiki page it, folks [09:09:49] ---| ---> bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has joined #code4lib [09:09:51] BillDueber | jtgorman: Presi, no? [09:09:57] anarchivist | @ana presi [09:09:57] zoia | anarchivist: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [09:09:59] robcaSSon | presi-- [09:10:00] jrochkind | mbklein seems to be on every committee [09:10:03] pberry | I submit this photo for my nick2face entry http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjungling/494265735/ [09:10:04] ---| ---> rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has joined #code4lib [09:10:05] jtgorman | BillDueber: could be [09:10:07] akorphan | presi-- [09:10:09] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [09:10:15] ---| ---> masao [~chatzilla@156-56-58-86.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:16] anarchivist | pberry++ [09:10:18] jtgorman | what, people don't like this? [09:10:25] ---| ---> fumi [~fumi@156-56-58-184.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:27] * jtgorman has no artistic sense apparently [09:10:28] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:30] BillDueber | royt++ [09:10:35] BigD | i'm getting seasick [09:10:39] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:10:42] BillDueber | "We pass the savings along to *you*!" [09:10:42] ---| ---> jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:10:43] mtomko | dieboldatron? [09:10:44] akorphan | jtgorman: It was kind of neat the very first time, except for the vertigo-inducing choppiness. But the slides are not very practical or shareable [09:10:45] jrochkind | BigD: are your pictures from tuesday night up? [09:10:55] robcaSSon | jtgorman: i've just had to deal with other folks' use of presi at work....it's annoying [09:11:00] pberry | dropbox++ [09:11:03] anna3lc | boxlunchsnack! that is nice [09:11:04] eby | BigD: you know if my coat is in the hosp suite still or someone grab it. flannel [09:11:04] akorphan | jtgorman: shareable in the "useful for extracting slides from" sense [09:11:05] jtgorman | akorphan: that's true...but if they share the source it might be possible to slow it down.... [09:11:08] robcaSSon | mtomko: voting machine [09:11:16] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:11:18] ---| ---> paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:20] mtomko | oh, was that how we voted on talks? [09:11:23] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [09:11:35] robcaSSon | mtomko: you didn't really vote...it's all rigged [09:11:38] pberry | Prezi seems to be all the rage [09:11:44] ---| <<-- zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:11:45] ---| ---> emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:11:49] mtomko | haha, well, I left a few hanging chads. [09:11:51] BigD | eby: i don't know... left about 11 [09:11:53] ---| ---> sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:55] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:56] ---| ---> mulcahey99 [9c383b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.77] has joined #code4lib [09:11:56] ---| ---> druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:57] akorphan | joyce++ [09:12:00] anna3lc | ladies++ [09:12:11] eby | BigD: thanks [09:12:14] BigD | jrochkind: not yet - didn't take that many - too busy serving beer! ;) [09:12:21] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:12:29] BigD | eby: i think mjgiarlo went back later than me [09:12:34] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:12:36] ---| ---> slamm [9c383b20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.32] has joined #code4lib [09:12:40] pberry | hanging_chads-- [09:12:43] davidWalker | well_structured_presentations++ [09:12:53] anna3lc | also, problem statement! that was appreciated [09:12:56] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:12:56] helrond | eby: there was someone's stuff there, but we didn't know whose it was... 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[09:13:36] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:13:36] BigD | Red velvet chocolate chip carnage #c4l11 http://twitpic.com/3yass7 [09:13:41] jtgorman | is the hospitality suite still open today? I have a bottle opener to pick up.... [09:13:43] ---| <<-- jaron1 [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:13:44] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:13:51] pberry | This is great because i have to go home and work on this very problem [09:13:57] gsf | hand-drawn_slides++ [09:13:58] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:13:59] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:14:01] akorphan | This is the best information flow diagram ever. [09:14:02] anna3lc | drawings++ [09:14:02] ---| ---> tomkeays [~chatzilla@host-124-020.host.lemoyne.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:04] ---| ---> tokeee [~tokee@156-56-58-42.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:08] ---| ---> jstirnaman [~Adium@user1.kumc.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:10] decasm_ | jtgorman: yeah. we can get you in [09:14:15] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~pmcgreen@156-56-58-107.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:20] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:21] eby | cool, i need to get in there too [09:14:23] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:14:29] gsf | whatsthisdata.xls++ [09:14:32] escowles | current_practice-- [09:14:37] lbjay | does the live stream not show the presentation screen? 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[09:15:09] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:10] MrDys | good questions to answer [09:15:11] * ejk is too slow [09:15:15] ---| ---> zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:15] eby | everyone_leaving_shit+- [09:15:25] ---| ---> ccurry_ [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:33] ---| ---> gluejar [~gluejar@156-56-58-96.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:39] pberry | Gaming?! [09:15:39] anna3lc | useful data [09:15:43] pberry | Win [09:15:43] harvel | gaming++ [09:15:46] ---| ---> banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:15:49] demiankatz | gaming++ [09:15:52] akorphan | pberry: Wii, xbox360, PS3 [09:16:00] akorphan | pberry: also, the Surface is used as a $10,000 checker board [09:16:01] ---| ---> jbowen [8097bd5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.151.189.90] has joined #code4lib [09:16:08] pberry | Sweet [09:16:15] akorphan | akorphan: That's an exaggeration, but it does get a lot of gaming usage. [09:16:16] ---| ---> mnotess [~chatzilla@140-182-149-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:16:18] lbjay | akorphan: haha, same story w/ the surface here [09:16:20] akorphan | err. [09:16:20] pberry | Anything worth doing is worth overdoing [09:16:25] robcaSSon | surfaces-- # my dean bought one too....it's gonna be a checkerboard [09:16:33] was | This is a brilliant problem summary - wish my capital projects folks were here [09:16:35] * ecorrado sees his coffee cup left on edge of stage and cries [09:16:46] decasm_ | jtgorman eby ALL h-suite will be open at the break [09:16:56] jtgorman | decasm++ [09:16:58] robcaSSon | decasm++ [09:16:59] eby | decasm++ [09:17:08] ---| ---> tedde [fontanka@156-56-58-103.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:17:09] anna3lc | BigD++ # tiny pancakes [09:17:09] lbjay | i think ours was at least gifted by MS. [09:17:21] BigD | we need to finish the hsuite beer! [09:17:22] BigD | ;) [09:17:23] ranti | presentation_on_assessments++ [09:17:27] MrDys | this talk should have been paired with the upenn talk [09:17:32] * jtgorman is kind of surprised MS hasn't gifted us one yet [09:17:32] akorphan | assessment++ [09:17:35] pberry | evidence-based?! Shocking [09:17:40] lbjay | BigD: ship it to me [09:17:46] akorphan | joyce++ [09:17:48] ---| ---> chumpanzee [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has joined #code4lib [09:17:50] escowles | i don't know what the solution is, but i want it already [09:17:57] anna3lc | i thought that said radioactive [09:17:57] ---| ---> dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has joined #code4lib [09:18:04] ecorrado | escowles++ [09:18:18] ecorrado | evidence-- [09:18:19] BigD | ipads for everyone! [09:18:31] harvel | @quote add "<escowles> i don't know what the solution is, but i want it already" [09:18:32] zoia | harvel: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:18:33] akorphan | My arm gets tired just thinking about it. [09:18:37] MrDys | darkchive! [09:18:38] pberry | iPad++ [09:18:38] decasm_ | does oprah love ipads? [09:18:39] BigD | look under your seats!!!! [09:18:41] lbjay | darkarchive! [09:18:48] pyott | i want the luxury to spend developement cycles on such niche tools [09:18:53] helrond | does anyone else think this is just a way to justify ipad purchases? [09:18:54] lbjay | @dunno search dark archive [09:18:54] robcaSSon | @damlev Oprah BigD [09:18:56] zoia | lbjay: No matching dunnos were found. [09:18:56] escowles | BigD++ [09:18:57] zoia | robcaSSon: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "Oprah" and "BigD" is 5. [09:19:00] decasm_ | wait ... BigD is oprah? [09:19:02] pberry | BigD: Used gum. Gross [09:19:04] lbjay | @quote search dark archive [09:19:08] zoia | lbjay: 3 found: #1197: "< anarchivist> i work in a dark archive", #1199: "< lbjay> Zotero: Raider of the Dark Archives", and #1342: "< lbjay> Dark Archives II: I _Still_ Don't Know..." [09:19:09] BigD | pberry: heh [09:19:09] ---| ---> KingNightWolf_ [9c383b39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.57] has joined #code4lib [09:19:10] MrDys | pyott: it's not really a niche tool...data warehousing and BI tools are out there and lots of people use them [09:19:17] akorphan | helrond: there are a couple of departmental iPads floating around already; I think we just use one of those. [09:19:20] lbjay | @quote get 1342 [09:19:20] zoia | lbjay: Quote #1342: "< lbjay> Dark Archives II: I _Still_ Don't Know What You Did 1000 Years Ago was better" (added by anarchivist at 12:29 PM, April 22, 2008) [09:19:21] freqlurker | I need this tool right now [09:19:22] MrDys | (not in libraries, necessarily) [09:19:33] ---| <<-- KingNightWolf_ [9c383b39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.57] has quit (Client Quit) [09:19:38] * eby is guessing the next step is tranquilizing patrons and rfid tagging them [09:19:41] ecorrado | pyott: yea, it would be nice to be able to do this. I hope what they do is reusable elsewhere so i can just take it [09:19:44] helrond | akorphan: jealous... [09:19:44] ---| ---> KingNightWolf [~shwaish@156-56-59-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:19:50] ---| ---> truk77 [~knordstro@129.120.93.76] has joined #code4lib [09:19:52] tedde | the Oprah ipad dance was hilarious [09:19:53] akorphan | eby: tracking_collars++ [09:19:56] anna3lc | eby++ [09:19:57] BigD | probes [09:19:57] pberry | eby: Not a terrible idea [09:20:02] ---| <<-- bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Bye) [09:20:08] ejk | eby++ [09:20:09] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:20:17] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:20:18] was | pyott: this looks like a niche tool to many libraries, but the data analysis would be immediately useful to many parts of the lib [09:20:22] gsf | surface-- [09:20:24] akorphan | "tablety" [09:20:26] ---| <<-- banu [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:20:33] eby | BigD: i might browse what's left to see if anything there is hard to get in michigan [09:20:35] BigD | was: agreed [09:20:37] jtgorman | I hate to say it, but one advantage to having rdif in library cards would be that it would be pretty easy to do [09:20:41] KingNightWolf | tablety++ [09:20:47] highermath | Still 6 rideshare seats available from IU -> IND this afternoon! FREE! http://is.gd/dkwNEL [09:20:47] zoia | highermath: Don't you mean <http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_rideshare>? [09:20:48] eby | BigD: have you gone back to the red liqours [09:20:52] pberry | ad-hoc deployment is a PITA [09:20:53] BigD | eby: you deserve ANYthing that's left [09:20:56] jtgorman | I've wished we had something like this. Our gate counts and similar measures are all over the map [09:21:00] BigD | eby: no, i'm afraid to ;) [09:21:06] tedde | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x13P7y2Xnco [09:21:09] ---| ---> bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:21:11] eby | i might break down and get one of those rares [09:21:17] ---| ---> dan64 [~dhanu@156-56-58-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:21:25] MrDys | http://imgur.com/qrLEV.gif [09:21:29] eby | still sticker shock [09:21:39] pberry | html5 local storage [09:21:42] was | browser_db++ [09:21:45] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [09:21:46] pberry | Heh [09:21:46] highermath | I guess that a pencil has pretty decent interface responsiveness [09:21:57] KingNightWolf | hahahaha [09:22:20] gsf | indexeddb++ [09:22:21] akorphan | cazzerson is a really good presenter. [09:22:26] pberry | "The Russians used a pencil." [09:22:34] pjb1 | highermath++ [09:22:35] akorphan | pberry: ha ha ha [09:22:45] akorphan | pberry: The true story is even better: they just used off the shelf ballpoints. [09:22:51] ---| ---> jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:22:57] akorphan | pberry: pencil lead dust would have been detrimental to the spacecraft air filters. [09:22:57] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@mobile-166-137-140-060.mycingular.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:22:57] ---| User: *** ccurry_ is now known as ccurry [09:23:01] eby | @blame bic [09:23:02] zoia | eby: What's wrong with bic? EVERYTHING!!!!!!! [09:23:05] escowles | working_db++ [09:23:18] ecorrado | we uesd it because it works [09:23:20] ---| ---> dlovins_ [~dlovins@conference/code4lib/x-bwxixvcguwykosda] has joined #code4lib [09:23:25] harvel | generic_boring_code++ [09:23:45] freqlurker | working_generic_boring_code++ [09:23:50] ejk | write_something_that_works++ [09:23:51] pberry | Okay, I want to use this. [09:24:02] BigD | what time is check out at IMU Biddle? [09:24:03] ---| ---> banu1 [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:24:10] lbjay | BigD: 1pm [09:24:12] rjhoyle | 1pm I think. [09:24:15] pberry | 1pm [09:24:29] pberry | Hahahahaha [09:24:37] MrDys | clown_palette++ [09:24:44] freqlurker | clown_palette++ [09:24:52] ---| ---> dl [~dl@mobile-166-137-140-239.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [09:24:54] ejk | @ana clown palette [09:24:55] zoia | ejk: Well cant poet [09:24:57] eby | BigD: but you can stay in parking lot till 5pm, hand over key to get out [09:24:59] tshearerlib | big undo button [09:25:03] anna3lc | gsf++ i feel you are secretly behind this project [09:25:09] pberry | "Prove that your color blind." "Okay, check this out." [09:25:31] akorphan | giant_button++ [09:25:32] paulalbert | button not big enough [09:25:40] MrDys | "fun" [09:25:47] BigD | thanks! [09:25:53] was | not_entering_numbers++ [09:26:04] ecorrado | user needs just get in the way [09:26:10] cbeer | eby++ i was wondering about the parking situation [09:26:16] akorphan | this job would be easier if it weren't for all the freaking users. [09:26:18] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:26:19] ---| ---> julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has joined #code4lib [09:26:20] ---| ---> danwho [IceChat7@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:26:33] ---| ---> dfunk [~dfunk@d-128-193-235.bootp.Virginia.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:26:35] freqlurker | user-based_UI++ [09:26:37] gsf | tactile_feedback++ [09:26:38] ecorrado | eyes++ [09:26:46] escowles | our new interface has one big button and we press it for you at the factory [09:26:56] eby | ecorrado: you might announce that people can get out of the parking lot with their hotel key, can checkout whenever and get out until 5 according to front desk [09:26:59] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:27:07] akorphan | thump++ [09:27:10] eby | think someone mistakenly paid to get out last night [09:27:11] MrDys | @ana screen thump [09:27:12] zoia | MrDys: Merest punch [09:27:12] ecorrado | wby: thanks [09:27:13] lbjay | @quote add <escowles> our new interface has one big button and we press it for you at the factory [09:27:13] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Quote #2517 added. [09:27:13] jdwyn | thump++ [09:27:14] pmurray | thumpin' on the screen... [09:27:16] ---| ---> ntra [8cb6f8cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.248.203] has joined #code4lib [09:27:17] pberry | This lab has a great bpm [09:27:19] pmurray | @karma [09:27:20] zoia | pmurray: Highest karma: "mbklein" (457), "anarchivist" (407), and "edsu" (391). Lowest karma: "iii" (-131), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (pmurray) are ranked 35 out of 3475. [09:27:28] ranti | great user experience study [09:27:29] KingNightWolf | I like to thump [09:27:31] MrDys | pberry++ [09:27:32] akorphan | look_and_thump++ [09:27:36] tomkeays | not_having_to_use_drop_down_menus++ [09:27:38] KingNightWolf | and I like to move it move it [09:27:41] MrDys | uhn tss uhn tss uhn tss [09:27:48] highermath | iii-- [09:27:50] mtomko | I wonder if they could move some of the left column down under the giant button.. [09:27:51] akorphan | ibahn-- [09:27:55] anarchivist | @sing vengaboys : boom boom boom boom [09:27:56] zoia | Ohohoh ohohoh / One on one just me and you / Ohohoh ohohoh / Boom Boom Boom Boom [09:27:57] escowles | lbjay: that's from dilbert, of coursr [09:28:08] ---| <<-- awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:28:09] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:28:10] pmurray | sleep++ [09:28:15] tomkeays | sleep++ [09:28:18] akorphan | sleep++ [09:28:20] jtgorman | I could see trying to rope in an engineering student to make a clicker attachment... [09:28:23] BigD | other... [09:28:23] lbjay | escowles: ahh [09:28:24] jrochkind | what better place to sleep than a library? [09:28:32] lbjay | @quote remove 2517 [09:28:32] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [09:28:37] KingNightWolf | sleep counter [09:28:43] jrochkind | jtgorman: does an ipad even have usb or any kind of input? i think it'd have to be bluetooth. [09:28:43] pberry | legacy_data-- [09:28:47] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:28:47] ecorrado | we had someone livign in a hiddemn room in the librry a few smesters ago [09:28:52] akorphan | jtgorman: They just came out with an iphone app where tapping ont he microphone acts as a camera shutter. I wonder if you could do somethin glike that. Of course, I don't think the browser is microphone-aware [09:28:54] jtgorman | jrochkind: ah, true [09:29:02] lbjay | escowles++ # you get karma instead [09:29:03] pyott | is there a thump for library hook-ups in the darker corners? [09:29:07] pberry | jrochkind: Bluetooth [09:29:09] jrochkind | ecorrado: teh real question is why you have a hidden room at the library [09:29:14] BigD | ecorrado: by someone, do you mean you? [09:29:14] jtgorman | that's one of the reasons I don't have a Ipad ;) [09:29:25] lbjay | @most [09:29:25] zoia | lbjay: (most [<channel>] {increased,decreased,active}) -- Returns the most increased, the most decreased, or the most active (the sum of increased and decreased) karma things. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. [09:29:30] ecorrado | BigD: no, i live in an unhidden room [09:29:30] MrDys | there's a dev kit for creating dock attachment peripherals [09:29:32] lbjay | @most increased [09:29:32] zoia | lbjay: "mbklein": 509, "edsu": 439, "anarchivist": 436, "zoia": 371, "MrDys": 316, "mjgiarlo": 315, "rsinger": 282, "BillDueber": 275, "lbjay": 269, "dbs": 267, "robcaSSon": 220, "jrochkind": 213, "eby": 173, "sesuncedu": 130, "jtgorman": 121, "royt": 119, "gsf": 118, "ksclarke": 104, "BigD": 102, "jbrinley": 96, "bess": 88, "jeff": 88, "wickr": 82, "dchud": 75, and "atz": 69 [09:29:54] ejk | github++ [09:30:06] lbjay | *clap* [09:30:07] robcaSSon | ncsu++ [09:30:10] jaron | cazzerson++ [09:30:10] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:30:11] akorphan | cazzerson++ joyce ++ [09:30:16] tdonohue | ncsu++ [09:30:17] jaron | mpow++ [09:30:17] tshearerlib | cazzerson++ [09:30:20] tshearerlib | joyce++ [09:30:22] lbjay | that was cool. cazzerson++ joyce++ [09:30:25] robcaSSon | jealousy-- [09:30:28] ---| ---> bmljenny [~bmljenny@156-56-58-217.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:30:40] pberry | cazzerson++ joyce ++ [09:30:45] charper | cazzerson++ joyce++ #great talk [09:30:51] harvel | cazzerson++ joyce++ [09:30:52] KingNightWolf | I got room keys [09:30:53] highermath | you could use the motion sensor and hit patrons with your tablet [09:30:58] tshearerlib | you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave [09:31:01] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:31:10] lbjay | ian++ # good chap [09:31:15] mtomko | yeah, but then every time you ran into a wall, you'd count a patron. [09:31:18] pberry | Nerf guns + tracking stats. We can make this happen [09:31:18] tshearerlib | hit any user to continue [09:31:19] demiankatz | ipad_as_implement_of_destruction++ [09:31:33] anna3lc | math++ [09:31:33] pyott | icky thump? [09:31:35] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:31:35] harvel | ian++ [09:31:38] jtgorman | walk around with a raygun looking thing and point it at patrons. You'd get a high turnover rate that way [09:31:43] ---| ---> BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:31:49] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:31:51] pmurray | Not assuming that n => 0 ++ [09:31:52] lbjay | best talk title [09:32:00] druthb | my daughter would fall in love with Ian, even without knowing what he's saying. accents.... [09:32:04] BillDueber | shoutout++ [09:32:12] ---| ---> skoinx [9c383a6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.111] has joined #code4lib [09:32:12] pmurray | ...but proposing that n > 0 after the talk ++ [09:32:26] robcaSSon | druthb: don't let her study abroad [09:32:29] lbjay | fresco++ [09:32:34] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:32:37] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:32:40] anarchivist | ianmulvaney++ # awesome guy, met him at DLF [09:32:44] ---| ---> jwd [~jwd@140-182-149-59.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:32:44] KingNightWolf | robcaSSon++ [09:32:51] BillDueber | Isn't this thing free? How do they get cashflow??? [09:32:53] druthb | robcaSSon++ [09:33:00] anarchivist | BillDueber: it's freemium [09:33:09] BigD | BillDueber: they make it up in volume [09:33:17] BillDueber | bigd++ [09:33:27] gsf | last.fm++ [09:33:31] robcaSSon | @love last.fm [09:33:31] ---| ---> bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has joined #code4lib [09:33:32] zoia | robcaSSon: But robcaSSon already loves last.fm! [09:33:37] ejk | last.fm++ [09:33:39] anarchivist | @love mendeley [09:33:41] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. anarchivist loves mendeley. [09:33:42] anna3lc | haha robcaSSon [09:33:47] helrond | last.fm++ [09:33:49] MrDys | I really can't place this guy's accent...sounds like ireland by way of australia [09:33:56] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:33:58] pberry | scrobble scrobble. the hamscobbler [09:34:04] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:34:05] freqlurker | mrDys: thought that was just me [09:34:05] mtomko | does mendeley have a way of handling storing papers you discover when you're not using your own computer? [09:34:12] gluejar | he's irish [09:34:12] robcaSSon | MrDys: it's fake [09:34:15] BillDueber | Hey, if anyone wants to have yet another scum about marc in json and rehash the same conversation we've had at least three times now, it's happening again on perl4lib. [09:34:22] emorgan | Digital humanities! [09:34:24] anarchivist | mtomko: yah, i think so [09:34:26] mnotess | analogies++ [09:34:31] escowles | albums ----> journals [09:34:34] ranti | I like how he uses last.fm to illustrate mendeley [09:34:35] BigD | MrDys: i think he's from Dublin [09:34:36] ---| ---> joyce [9c383b4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.74] has joined #code4lib [09:34:40] anarchivist | BillDueber: link? [09:34:41] eby | BillDueber: i can join and use the word shit a few times [09:34:41] jrochkind | welsh? [09:34:44] anarchivist | eby++ [09:34:47] gsf | ranti: yeah that's a good analogy [09:34:48] decasm_ | BillDueber: awesome marc_in_json_scrum++ [09:34:50] KingNightWolf | Dublin++ [09:34:52] BillDueber | eby: Go with your strenghts [09:34:53] robcaSSon | eby++ # shit [09:35:02] pmurray | Dublin_Ohio++ [09:35:02] lbjay | he's the only Ian at Mendeley, too. I was shocked. [09:35:04] ecorrado | words_largest_open_research_database++ [09:35:08] escowles | i doubt he's welsh, i can understand him [09:35:15] ---| ---> atz [~atz@156-56-58-122.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:35:16] gsf | BillDueber: in-depth knowledge of perl required? [09:35:20] pmurray | Oh -- the /other/ Dublin... ;-) [09:35:20] ---| ---> babs [9bf60207@gateway/web/freenode/ip.155.246.2.7] has joined #code4lib [09:35:21] ---| <<-- danwho [IceChat7@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [09:35:25] ---| ---> danwho_ [IceChat7@137.110.8.235] has joined #code4lib [09:35:31] ---| ---> tseneca [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has joined #code4lib [09:35:36] ranti | pmurray++ # lol [09:35:52] ---| <<-- danwho_ [IceChat7@137.110.8.235] has quit (Client Quit) [09:35:57] BigD | dublin pics from last month: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/sets/72157625796322575/ ;) [09:36:04] pmurray | "Dublin OH" is now the largest "Dublin" outside of Ireland. So we're gaining on them... [09:36:16] escowles | code4lib, where dublin, ireland is the other dublin... [09:36:18] bmljenny | Researchers LOVE that feature [09:36:18] eby | @eightball are there whitecastles in dublin [09:36:19] zoia | eby: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing! [09:36:22] BillDueber | gsf: I was joking. Joking! All the right code is already in place; we just have to wait for the stupid-ass email discussion to die out. [09:36:26] pmurray | escowles++ [09:36:33] BigD | Dublin is the largest city in the world. [09:36:35] anarchivist | been thinking about jumping to mendeley completely [09:36:44] BigD | cuz it's dublin every day [09:36:47] BigD | get it? [09:36:56] pmurray | @say #code4lib There are no Whitecastles in Dublin (Ohio) [09:36:56] zoia | pmurray: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:37:01] mtomko | this is slick. [09:37:01] mnotess | BigD: dublin_pics++ [09:37:03] robcaSSon | anarchivist: we're dumping RefWorks, so mendeley is on our new library handout [09:37:07] * BillDueber wants that extract-citation-from-pdf code badly/ [09:37:08] pberry | dropbox for research [09:37:09] jrochkind | so you add a pdf... does it share that pdf with other people, or it just keeps it just for you? [09:37:11] anarchivist | robcaSSon: nice [09:37:12] ranti | BigD++ [09:37:14] mnotess | BigD++ [09:37:15] mtomko | maybe zotero's days are numbered... [09:37:17] anarchivist | robcaSSon: i'm a little over zotero [09:37:21] bmljenny | He'll get to the sharing thing [09:37:24] ---| ---> danwho [IceChat7@137.110.8.235] has joined #code4lib [09:37:24] erikhatcher | sounds like SETI :) [09:37:24] * ecorrado needs to try mendeley [09:37:31] KingNightWolf | same here [09:37:32] BillDueber | jrochkind: Just for you. Copyright is adhered to. [09:37:36] robcaSSon | anarchivist: zotero's on the handout too ;) [09:37:36] anarchivist | robcaSSon: zotero standalone kind of blows at this point [09:37:37] kestlund | jrochkind: you can create groups to share pdfs [09:37:40] * ecorrado still uses vi for his citation data [09:37:43] anna3lc | lego_trooper++ [09:37:46] tomkeays | @love Mendeley [09:37:46] * BillDueber got turned off from zotero trying to deal with the devs [09:37:48] zoia | tomkeays: The operation succeeded. tomkeays loves Mendeley. [09:37:52] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:37:53] ---| ---> tzhaya [~chatzilla@156-56-58-121.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:37:54] anarchivist | @love mendeley [09:37:56] zoia | anarchivist: But anarchivist already loves mendeley! [09:37:56] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:38:03] ecorrado | @love vi [09:38:03] jaron | yeah, i'm ready to transfer my stuff into this. tried it and has features like highlighting I couldn't easily do otherwise [09:38:05] zoia | ecorrado: The operation succeeded. ecorrado loves vi. [09:38:06] jrochkind | kestlund: but not generally with the public at large? I guess it's just as illegal either way, but might not make the publishers quite as mad. [09:38:07] jtgorman | I think zotero development feels like it died out a bit before it could reach it's potential [09:38:08] tzhaya | LEGO++ [09:38:10] pmurray | Is there a migration and/or synchronization path between Zotero and Mendeley? [09:38:17] anarchivist | pmurray: yes [09:38:17] jtgorman | of course, it's just as likely I just stopped paying attention to it [09:38:21] jaron | pmurray: yes [09:38:21] ranti | @love chocolate_chips_cookies [09:38:23] zoia | ranti: The operation succeeded. ranti loves chocolate_chips_cookies. [09:38:25] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:38:26] bmljenny | I think what they're doing in group sharing is a little risky legally but they don't think so [09:38:27] anarchivist | pmurray: one way zotero -> mendeley [09:38:28] kestlund | jrochkind, you can share the citations at large but not pdfs; damn copyright [09:38:31] julia_ | jaron: Highlighting in PDFs? In Linux? [09:38:37] jaron | pmurray: you can get stuff from zotero to mendeley but not the other way [09:38:46] gugek | fun with the invisible college [09:38:47] tomkeays | haven't had much success with using it on multiple machines though [09:38:48] jaron | julia_: from my little bit of testing. yes. [09:38:57] akorphan | The word "mendeley" makes me want to dance. [09:38:58] julia_ | jaron: Woohoo! I've been half-looking for something that could do that for awhile. [09:39:01] bmljenny | You can share PDFs in private groups. [09:39:02] jrochkind | kestlund: cool. violates copyright to share em with a group, or really even to upload em at all too. But less noticeable or threatening. [09:39:04] pmurray | anarchivist++ jaron++ [09:39:06] was | Is there an API to these data? [09:39:19] kestlund | it's been indispensible working full time and in grad school; i use it on four computers and the web version [09:39:27] BillDueber | was: Those data are the business. They can't give it away, Iwouldn't think. [09:39:27] bmljenny | They seem to think limiting the size of private groups makes it ok. [09:39:30] BigD | bmljenny: wonder if mrgunn knows this is on streaming now [09:39:34] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [09:39:35] bmljenny | I'm sure. [09:39:36] jrochkind | was: as of recently there is. I don'tknow how owerful the api is. I bet he's abut to tell us. [09:39:37] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:39:38] KingNightWolf | there is an app for that [09:39:39] pberry | amazon++ [09:39:42] BigD | bmljenny: he's prob not even up ;) [09:39:49] was | jrochkind: thx [09:39:50] jaron | julia_: even have a ubuntu repo http://www.mendeley.com/download-mendeley-desktop/ubuntu/instructions/ [09:39:59] BillDueber | unique items???? [09:39:59] mnotess | mendeley++ [09:40:00] pmurray | Hmmm -- I may have to keep using Zotero and push that account data into Medeley. [09:40:08] bmljenny | Bigd I've been around the block on this with him. It looks really similar to what happened to us with eres. [09:40:12] BigD | lazy bastards [09:40:17] ---| <<-- jdwyn [~chatzilla@156-56-58-52.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) [09:40:19] pberry | Nick2face for mbklein http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/10/28/PH2009102804575.jpg [09:40:21] pmurray | (Sort of like how I use Delicious and Faviki) [09:40:23] anna3lc | downloaded... this is not a website? or is there actually a scrobbler for your pdf reader? [09:40:28] decasm_ | i hate it when recommenders base recommendations on popularity [09:40:31] mnotess | malta++ [09:40:33] anarchivist | anna3lc: there's a website too [09:40:35] BillDueber | This is America. We don't know how big Malta is. Or that it's not something that goes into beer. [09:40:40] bmljenny | Mendeley would be awesome as a porn storage,sharing platform [09:40:40] jrochkind | anna3lc: it is a website, as well as a client app. [09:40:44] BigD | I'm a pretty big deal. in Malta. [09:40:45] anna3lc | got it [09:40:47] mnotess | malta goes in berra [09:40:49] julia_ | jaron: Thanks! [09:40:50] atz | decasm: unconditional popularity is a bore [09:40:55] mnotess | malta goes in beera [09:40:58] anarchivist | anna3lc: it's like the online zotero libraries, but better [09:41:06] escowles | mnotess++ # beat me too it [09:41:16] ecorrado | @google how big is malta [09:41:17] zoia | ecorrado: Malta Facts | GuideToMalta.net: <http://www.guidetomalta.net/about-malta/malta-facts/>; Answers.com - How big is Malta the island: <http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_big_is_Malta_the_island>; Answers.com - How big is Malta: <http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_big_is_Malta>; How big is Malta? Would I need to hire a car to get around ...: <http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100330044750AAXj13o>; (2 more messages) [09:41:23] bmljenny | One thing zotero really does better than anyone is grab stuff from google scholar [09:41:27] ranti | mendeley++ [09:41:31] jrochkind | solr shoutout [09:41:34] akorphan | @google hbase [09:41:35] zoia | akorphan: HBase - HBase Home: <http://hbase.apache.org/>; Hbase - Hadoop Wiki: <http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Hbase>; HBase - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBase>; HBase vs Cassandra: why we moved « Bits and Bytes.: <http://ria101.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/hbase-vs-cassandra-why-we-moved/>; Understanding HBase and BigTable - Jimbojw.com: (1 more message) [09:41:53] mnotess | flickr++ [09:41:56] anna3lc | @karma code4lib [09:41:57] zoia | anna3lc: Karma for "code4lib" has been increased 14 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 9. [09:42:09] anna3lc | code4lib+=1000000 [09:42:10] ranti | red_painted_library_building++ [09:42:21] BillDueber | They do have an API. http://dev.mendeley.com/docs/ [09:42:24] akorphan | haitch_base++ [09:42:28] ejk | live_stream++ [09:42:28] ---| ---> gmontane [~chatzilla@2001:18e8:2:32:b1bb:f5e:1520:d6a6] has joined #code4lib [09:42:28] yo_bj | mendeley++ [09:42:29] BigD | rmcdonald++ [09:42:33] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:42:52] pberry | mcgriddle++ [09:43:01] akorphan | repository depository? [09:43:05] jrochkind | hmm, i wonder if we could switch from refworks to mendeley. can mendeley do everything refworks online can? CAuse I hate refworks and it's lack of api access so I can't integrate it much. [09:43:10] mnotess | posit posit [09:43:14] eefcee_ | live_stream++ [09:43:16] atz | before I forget, for those nipping my flask the past few nights... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becherovka [09:43:25] ---| ---> mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has joined #code4lib [09:43:25] akorphan | What font is that? [09:43:26] decasm_ | repository depository suppository? [09:43:26] was | BillDueber++ [09:43:27] MrDys | atz++ [09:43:30] escowles | becherovka++ [09:43:36] anarchivist | becherovka++ [09:43:37] robcaSSon | atz: i'm assuming Becherovka is a strain of herpes [09:43:41] dileshni | jrochkind: was thinking the same thing. UToronto is trying to get rid of refworks too [09:43:43] akorphan | @sing Tom Waits : Time [09:43:43] anarchivist | caret++ [09:43:44] zoia | It's raining hammers, it's raining nails / Yes, it's true, there's nothing left for him down here / Chorus: / And it's Time Time Time [09:43:49] escowles | @love becherovka [09:43:51] bmljenny | jrochkind: The last time I checked, refworks had a leg up in the word plugin [09:43:51] zoia | escowles: The operation succeeded. escowles loves becherovka. [09:43:52] mnotess | caret++ [09:43:54] atz | robcaSSon++ [09:44:01] kestlund | jrochkind: it doesn't have the one click button from vendors to import citations like refworks [09:44:05] ---| ---> dbs [~dbs@8-34.lib.laurentian.ca] has joined #code4lib [09:44:05] ---| <<-- dbs [~dbs@8-34.lib.laurentian.ca] has quit (Changing host) [09:44:05] ---| ---> dbs [~dbs@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [09:44:10] jtgorman | jrochkind: our central campus IT was partially funding refworks and pulled out [09:44:18] eby | also before i forget. for those that were interested in distilling here is a copy of Michigan State's Artisan Distilling: A Guide for Small Distilleries http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2404814/artisan_distilling1.0.0.pdf [09:44:18] akorphan | refworks-- [09:44:33] younga | eby++ [09:44:34] bmljenny | There's a bookmarklet to import from many databases, but it often fails. [09:44:35] * ranti is wondering how many contact requests Ian would get after this presentation [09:44:41] anarchivist | has anyone seen giarlo? [09:44:43] ---| ---> scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:44:44] ecorrado | cool, i like this automatic deposit [09:44:50] tomkeays | where is IRC being logged? URL? [09:45:03] ---| ---> dlovins_web [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has joined #code4lib [09:45:04] ---| ---> abugseye [62d82632@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.216.38.50] has joined #code4lib [09:45:05] robcaSSon | tomkeays: no official log anymore [09:45:06] atz | eby++ [09:45:10] * ecorrado wonders if it works wih eprints [09:45:11] tomkeays | but but but [09:45:12] jrochkind | kestlund: hmm, yeah. which is sadly not a technical measure, but just a market one. it's gonna be hard for them to get the same access refworks has spent years monopolizing [09:45:15] fumi | mendeley++ [09:45:16] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [09:45:21] gsf | lbjay: is the log up yet? [09:45:22] jtgorman | jrochkind: it's leading to mass panic and various librarians all contributing chunks of their funds [09:45:27] pberry | universal ios app [09:45:29] pberry | Neat [09:45:31] tomkeays | Topic says being logged [09:45:33] ---| ---> fresco [~fresco@london.office.mendeley.com] has joined #code4lib [09:45:34] jrochkind | jtgorman: contributing chunks of funds to what now? [09:45:39] kestlund | jrochkind: can you get stats on how many users are using the vendor db to refworks feature? [09:45:40] robcaSSon oh, is lbjay doing that again? [09:45:44] jrochkind | kestlund: not sure. [09:45:45] robcaSSon tomkeays++ lbjay++ [09:45:48] akorphan | We should get joyce to redraw this flow diagram. [09:45:49] dileshni | has anyone used wizfolio? [09:45:57] rsinger | edsu: sorry, i stepped away and now 404 :( [09:46:00] ecorrado | SWORD++ [09:46:03] jtgorman robcaSSon: sounds like lbjay has been logging it, also sounds like some of it streamed with the video? [09:46:05] MrDys | kill it with a SWORD [09:46:08] mnotess | mendeley website has dualing tabs for navigation...odd [09:46:10] lbjay | robcaSSon: yeah. might be up later today even. maybe. [09:46:11] akorphan | SWORDED! [09:46:12] decasm_ | why do we log, exactly? [09:46:14] pyott | sword++ [09:46:19] tomkeays | sword++ [09:46:33] akorphan | decasm_: It's helpful if you're presenting and want to go back and read feedback [09:46:35] lbjay | decasm_: so that presenters can review the backchannel after their talk [09:46:36] robcaSSon | decasm: fun timeline stuff for the conference [09:46:47] anarchivist | @ana open up your repository with a SWORD [09:46:48] zoia | anarchivist: Hey! Win uproarious prototype [09:46:53] akorphan | zoia++ [09:46:57] jtgorman | decasm: cause we have a bunch of people who obsessively document stuff ;) [09:47:06] BillDueber | If I were Web of Science, I'd start getting nervous right about now. [09:47:07] akorphan | jtgorman: also that. [09:47:10] edsu | rsinger: should be 200 now [09:47:17] gsf | vaporware always has the prettiest pictures [09:47:21] BigD | yep [09:47:23] tomkeays | WoS _should_ be nervous [09:47:25] decasm_ | robcaSSon: sweet. proposal for next year is some visualization of the channel, and what sorts of things will turn the crowd against you. [09:47:28] ranti | huh? are we suupose to upload our holding information if we want that kind of analysis? [09:47:32] lbjay | @quote add <gsf> vaporware always has the prettiest pictures [09:47:32] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Quote #2518 added. [09:47:33] akorphan | gsf: I hear Duke Nukem Forever is coming out Real Soon Now. [09:47:38] jrochkind | it COULD be. But it's unclear what portion of our total userbase would be covered by such statistics [09:47:41] BillDueber | api++ [09:47:42] paulalbert | Could be useful for collection development? [09:47:42] gsf | akorphan: it actually is! [09:47:43] atz | decasm: need to archive karma before reset then [09:47:49] bmljenny | They no longer really posit this as last.fm for research, where researchers can get recommendations [09:47:52] akorphan | gsf: I know! Crazy! [09:47:56] akorphan | gsf: If it happens. [09:48:02] fresco | ranti: is your holding information publically available anywhere? [09:48:05] akorphan | gsf: Otherwise, business as usual. [09:48:09] bmljenny | Grey on grey [09:48:10] atz | akorphan: my best friend from high school worked 3 years on DNF in Dallas... before bailing [09:48:12] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [09:48:14] ecorrado | thistalk++ [09:48:16] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [09:48:18] akorphan | wait, there's text there? [09:48:21] gsf | akorphan: yes, if [09:48:22] kestlund | jrochkind: i'd ditch refworks for mendeley [09:48:27] gsf | akorphan: will be the end of an era [09:48:35] decasm_ | check out http:// [09:48:38] gsf | akorphan: an era of anticipation [09:48:48] MrDys | mmmm data [09:48:49] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:48:49] anna3lc | decasm++ [09:48:51] mnotess | large_red_arrows++ [09:48:53] akorphan | The big projector is SERIOUSLY washed out. new_lamp++ [09:48:59] escowles | low_contrast-- [09:48:59] BillDueber | This is, no irony intended at all, inspiring. They built it, and people came, and now it's awesome. [09:49:06] * ecorrado wonders how mwndwy de-dupes things (or if it does) [09:49:08] jrochkind | did he say three-legged oath? [09:49:10] ranti | fresco: actually, we put our jpurnal holdings as XML for google scholar to fetch. [09:49:22] tomkeays | it does de-dup as I recall [09:49:30] tomkeays | flags them for user [09:49:38] atz | creative_commons++ [09:49:38] ecorrado | tomkeays++ [09:49:43] pmurray | Who is MCing this morning? [09:49:47] jtgorman | i wonder if watermarking would screw up dedupping [09:49:51] eby | pmurray: ecorrado [09:49:54] pmurray | I'm wondering when we want to do the last raffle drawing. [09:49:58] jtgorman | awesome [09:50:03] fresco | ranti: i've been looking for that information - is it somewhere private just for google scholar, or public? [09:50:03] rsinger | edsu++ # done! [09:50:03] pmurray | ecorrado: ping [09:50:08] MrDys | @band add Binary Battle [09:50:08] zoia | MrDys: Band 'Binary Battle' added to list [09:50:09] jtgorman | best prize amount EVER [09:50:15] pberry | Lulz [09:50:17] escowles | mendeley++ # wonders if it'll pass the wife test [09:50:18] freqlurker | binary_humor++ [09:50:26] lbjay | anyone using the ex libris bx product? [09:50:27] ecorrado | pmurray: lets do it before the ligthning talks [09:50:30] edsu | ooh, mendeley contest [09:50:37] ecorrado | right after break [09:50:44] BillDueber | this_guy++ [09:50:45] ranti | fresco: I will need to check, but it seemed it's public. [09:50:46] decasm_ | so wait, 33 dollars? [09:50:46] pmurray | ecorrado: Okay -- makes sense. I have the raffle radomizer. [09:51:00] jrochkind | i don't think 52 seconds means what ian thinks it means. [09:51:02] robcaSSon | decasm++ # the fine print [09:51:03] fresco | ranti: thanks - would be great if it is [09:51:06] atz | @google 10001 binary in decimal [09:51:08] zoia | atz: Converting Between Binary, Octal, Decimal, and Hexadecimal Number ...: <http://www.robotroom.com/NumberSystems.html>; Convert from binary to decimal? - Dev Articles: <http://forums.devarticles.com/java-development-38/convert-from-binary-to-decimal-11675.html>; ``Converting Binary to Decimal'': <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/readings/btod.20000429.html>; Why 17 = 10001 is true? (Why the decimal number 17 in binary (2 more messages) [09:51:08] akorphan | In Binary, I'm a millionaire. [09:51:08] highermath | the_cool_exemption++ [09:51:16] * lbjay just registered an app at mendeley. should be working on the irc timeline instead. [09:51:19] harvel | decasm_: 17 [09:51:20] ---| <<-- scolford [~scolford@156-56-58-48.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:51:26] jtgorman | there's still stuff to raffle off? [09:51:28] decasm_ | harvel: right. oops [09:51:30] jrochkind | oh yeah, fun for the whole family [09:51:46] highermath | my wallet is in binary [09:51:46] ecorrado | geek_games++ [09:51:55] gsf | omg this is too good [09:51:57] lbjay | ianmulvaney++ # great talk [09:51:58] highermath | a few ones and a lot of nothing [09:52:05] akorphan | smiling_data_miner++ [09:52:07] robcaSSon | needs more babyheads [09:52:10] edsu | was that fresco? [09:52:12] tomkeays | smiling_data_miner++ [09:52:14] pmurray | jtgorman: Yes -- seven items. 2 books, 4 Oxygen licenses, and the Practical Open Source Software for Libraries promised book [09:52:17] fresco | edsu: haha, no :-) [09:52:18] ---| <--- tshearerlib [9c383a4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.77] has left #code4lib () [09:52:18] pyott | mendely++ [09:52:19] ejk | @ana smiling data miner [09:52:20] zoia | ejk: Maladministering [09:52:20] edsu | heheh [09:52:22] lbjay | @band add Smiling Data Miners [09:52:23] zoia | lbjay: Band 'Smiling Data Miners' added to list [09:52:23] akorphan | break++ [09:52:23] ---| <<-- fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:52:27] anarchivist | lbjay+ [09:52:27] ejk | zoia++ [09:52:30] gsf | ianmulvaney++ [09:52:32] anna3lc | ianmulvaney++ [09:52:32] BillDueber | I lost count, but that was aesome in at least six ways. [09:52:35] eefcee_ | mendeley++ [09:52:37] freqlurker | @sing wire: outdoor miner [09:52:40] zoia | A roof falls, an underliner / Of leaf structure, the egg timer / From Lyrics Mania [09:52:40] eby | decasm_: going up now? [09:52:48] charper | such a good talk. such a good conference. just, wow... [09:52:49] bmljenny | Where's my recommendations though? [09:52:50] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:52:51] charper | code4lib++ [09:52:54] ---| <<-- BigD [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[09:53:22] bmljenny | If you connive people to install the tool on the promise of last.fm type recommendations, you should provide them [09:53:23] lbjay | anyway, i keep waiting for bx customers to realize that the sfx stats that bx harvests could be used in other ways/apps [09:53:42] ---| <<-- highermath [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has quit (Quit: highermath) [09:54:17] ---| <<-- mstroming [9c383a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.49] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [09:54:18] ---| <<-- tdonohue [~Adium@156-56-59-43.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:54:25] ---| <<-- dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dlBarth) [09:54:41] anna3lc | i have seen so many people add band names, but i've never seen one accessed.. has that part not been written yet? 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[09:56:57] fresco | bmljenny: ^ [09:57:07] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:57:10] ---| <<-- jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:57:14] dileshni | did anyone get ianmulvaney email off the slides? [09:57:18] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [09:57:25] ---| <<-- mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:57:33] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:57:55] fresco | dileshni: ian.mulvany@mendeley.com [09:57:55] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:58:06] dileshni | fresco: thanks! [09:58:13] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:58:42] bmljenny | fresco: Good to hear. Are you with mendeley? [09:58:48] ---| <<-- ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:58:54] fresco | bmljenny: yes, i am [09:59:17] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:59:20] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:59:36] ---| <<-- danwho [IceChat7@137.110.8.235] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:59:55] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cazzerson) [10:00:13] mtomko | hmm, mendeley wants me to review every single of of the citations that it imported from Zotero. [10:00:28] ---| ---> srmiles [~stevermil@156-56-58-210.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:00:39] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: scotthanrath) [10:00:42] anarchivist | @ana simson garfinkel [10:00:43] zoia | anarchivist: Malign foreskins [10:00:43] mtomko | but it doesn't tell me what details it wants me to verify (ie, why does it think that citation data is incorrect?) [10:00:56] anarchivist | zoia-- [10:00:59] lbjay | providing_example_client++ # https://github.com/Mendeley/mendeley-oapi-example [10:02:00] ---| <<-- joyce [9c383b4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.74] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:02:00] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:02:02] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:02:15] ---| ---> pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:02:30] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [10:02:32] anna3lc | @karma code4lib [10:02:32] zoia | anna3lc: Karma for "code4lib" has been increased 15 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 10. [10:02:36] ---| ---> bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:02:43] ---| <<-- escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [10:02:43] mnotess | signed up for, installing mendeley [10:03:12] bmljenny | Wd be interesting to see what would happen to the database if we dumped refworks and millions of undergrads dumped their term paper research in mendeley [10:03:15] ---| <<-- skoinx [9c383a6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.111] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [10:03:16] ---| ---> pjb1 [~Adium@156-56-59-71.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:03:26] rsinger | edsu: lld? [10:03:27] ---| ---> freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has joined #code4lib [10:03:36] lbjay | @cluephone edsu [10:03:37] zoia | BBRRRRrrringgg! It's for edsu [10:03:47] mnotess | drag this... ...to here [10:03:57] mtomko | hmm, and it doesn't extract all the authors from worldcat records for boks. [10:03:58] ---| ---> scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:04:08] lbjay | @pony mtomko [10:04:08] zoia | ,//) [10:04:09] zoia | ,;;' \ [10:04:10] zoia | ,;;' ( '\ [10:04:11] zoia | / '\_) [10:04:12] zoia | ^^ not mtomko's [10:04:18] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:04:18] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:04:30] ---| <<-- abugseye [62d82632@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.216.38.50] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:04:36] rsinger | edsu++ [10:04:59] ---| ---> bertram_ [~bertrama@snapple.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:05:00] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:05:37] ---| <<-- bertram_ [~bertrama@snapple.umdl.umich.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [10:05:37] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:06:01] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:06:10] ---| ---> jtgorman [~jtgorman@pdpc/supporter/professional/jtgorman] has joined #code4lib [10:06:10] ---| ---> dlBarth [~dbarth@156-56-58-16.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:06:11] ejk | So, are all future c4l cons going to be held at higher education locations with big internet connections and streaming capabilities? [10:06:25] akorphan | ejk: That'd be awesome. [10:06:34] akorphan | ejk: Warmer weather please, though. [10:06:35] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb695c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.199] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [10:06:42] akorphan | UTAustin? Anyone? [10:06:44] ejk | Because the bar is set HIGH right now [10:06:46] ---| ---> kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:07:08] gsf | @eightball what ejk said [10:07:08] zoia | gsf: The outlook is poor. [10:07:15] gsf | ejk: sorry [10:07:21] edsu | rsinger: :-) [10:07:22] pberry | We'll just webex the next one [10:08:03] gsf | @eightball will the next c4lcon be fought with sticks and stones? [10:08:04] zoia | gsf: Of course. [10:08:07] ---| ---> gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [10:08:10] ndushay | hi everyone! [10:08:12] ejk | @fu eightball [10:08:13] zoia | ejk: incorrect assword [10:08:23] MrDys | c vgfffffffffffhfffffffffffffffffffffvvfvfvxccccvcccv v [10:08:29] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:08:29] ---| <<-- highermath_away [~highermat@156-56-58-98.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Changing host) [10:08:29] ---| ---> highermath_away [~highermat@drupal.org/user/53667/view] has joined #code4lib [10:08:37] MrDys | (keyboard cleaning) [10:08:53] gsf | MrDys: i was worried about you for a sec [10:08:53] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:09:07] ndushay | besides the water/coffee supply problems [10:09:11] ---| ---> robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:09:18] gsf | ndushay: hi! [10:09:23] ndushay | there should be recycling bins in our venues [10:09:30] ndushay | gsf: hi! [10:09:35] anarchivist | ndushay: there are, but outside [10:09:38] cbeer | ndushay: there's actually water today [10:09:43] anarchivist | ndushay: i.e the hallway [10:09:46] jaron | water++ [10:09:52] jaron | @karma water [10:09:53] zoia | jaron: Karma for "water" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. [10:09:54] ejk | MrDys: thought you had a cat on the loose for a sec [10:09:59] ndushay | cbeer: yes, but evil dasani bottled water. [10:10:09] MrDys | yeah, I smuggled my cat, Kimball Collins, to Bloomington [10:10:20] lbjay | "save it as a pdf", yes one would THINK that would be best [10:10:21] gsf | MrDys++ [10:10:21] cbeer | ndushay: there was a container of water too [10:10:24] ndushay | anarchivist: i knew that. I just forgot [10:10:53] emorgan | Again, what is the URL of irc archive? Such a thing is ripe for text mining. [10:11:02] BillDueber | If only they'd invent some sort of machine that would help us hear what he's saying. [10:11:04] ndushay | cbeer: i didn't see it. [10:11:13] ndushay | BillDueber++ [10:11:16] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:11:19] ---| ---> sethajoh [9c383b10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.16] has joined #code4lib [10:11:21] anarchivist | @ana dasani [10:11:21] zoia | anarchivist: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [10:11:24] gsf | ndushay: agreed the recycling bins and the food/drink should be juxtaposed [10:11:24] ---| ---> rjhoyle [~rjhoyle@156-56-58-198.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:11:25] eby | there are recycle bins by the door [10:11:26] anarchivist | @hussein dasani [10:11:27] zoia | anarchivist: In ass-head in us [10:11:28] MrDys emorgan: ask lbjay [10:11:34] ndushay | wow - I can see my machine a lot better with the brightness turned up! [10:11:42] lbjay | emorgan: it's coming. it's coming. [10:11:42] mnotess | requiring_iOS_4.0-- [10:11:51] decasm_ | the h-suite is closed. [10:11:51] ndushay | apparently this is not my morning to be on the ball. [10:11:55] ---| ---> escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:11:56] mnotess | darn. can't install mendeley on my ancient iphone [10:12:06] robcaSSon | decasm++ # thanks again [10:12:10] tedde | Wibram five-fingers on stage! [10:12:11] BillDueber | mnotess: "ancient iphone"?????? [10:12:21] ndushay | ok - what's the best way to keep people's attention while I'm presenting? [10:12:23] emorgan | lbjay: Ok thank you. [10:12:28] jtgorman | decasm++ [10:12:33] gsf | ndushay: video games [10:12:33] akorphan | Do they make you take off Five Fingers at the airport? [10:12:38] escowles | ndushat: babyheads [10:12:42] robcaSSon | code4lib has a bit of a vibram cult, it seems [10:12:43] MrDys | ndushay: animated gifs [10:12:43] jaron | ndushay: cucumber jokes? [10:12:44] anarchivist | @ana five fingers [10:12:45] zoia | anarchivist: Sniff grieve [10:12:46] mnotess | BillDueber: orig. iPhone won't run anything after iOS 3.1.3 [10:12:50] eby | use the word shit in each sentence [10:12:52] MrDys | @ana cult of vibram [10:12:52] zoia | MrDys: Vital of crumb [10:12:53] * akorphan is a VivoBarefoot man. [10:12:58] * BillDueber is still getting used to seeing "michael klein: stanford" [10:12:58] lbjay | eby++ [10:13:02] robcaSSon | @shit cult of vibram [10:13:02] zoia | robcaSSon: if you want my secrets you'll eat my sandwich [10:13:04] ---| ---> webczarina [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has joined #code4lib [10:13:05] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:06] ---| ---> jstroop [~jstroop@156-56-59-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:06] eby | preferable with a gong noise each time [10:13:07] decasm_ | for anyone else mesmerized by my screensaver http://electricsheep.org/ [10:13:13] jtgorman | without you, I wouldn't have been able to retrieve Ragnor, slayer of a hundred corks and destroyer of countless caps [10:13:13] anarchivist | @ana vibram five fingers [10:13:14] zoia | anarchivist: Verb if virgins fame [10:13:20] ---| ---> dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:13:23] ndushay | BillDueber: wait until it's Bill Dueber stanford. [10:13:24] MrDys | ahhh, electric sheep, I used to run that [10:13:36] ndushay | BillDueber: what's the url for your slides? [10:13:38] jtgorman | slower++ [10:13:56] jtgorman | wow, I haven't run electric sheep in years [10:14:01] akorphan | motion_sick_presi-- [10:14:04] * jtgorman needs to install it again [10:14:08] ---| ---> jerms_ [9c383b6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.108] has joined #code4lib [10:14:10] ---| ---> tdonohue [~Adium@156-56-59-43.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:14:19] BillDueber | ndushay: http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/code4lib-2011-lightning-talk-slides/ [10:14:19] lbjay | zoia: do you dream of electric sheep? [10:14:20] * zoia you dream of electric sheep? [10:14:23] mnotess | akorphan++ [10:14:24] robcaSSon | @sing Electric Wizard : Cult of Vibram [10:14:25] zoia | robcaSSon: No lyrics found for Cult of Vibram by Electric Wizard [10:14:33] pberry | Stuck on Cut the Rope 6/15 [10:14:33] lbjay | zoia: no, i'm aksing you [10:14:35] zoia | lbjay: so hows that werkflaw management system coming along [10:14:36] mnotess | presi is a bit cliche now, like comic sans [10:14:39] anarchivist | @sing sleep : jerusalem [10:14:40] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for jerusalem by sleep [10:14:41] MrDys | @twit --id 35717961981362176 [10:14:42] zoia | MrDys: <milkya> I was very moved to bagel cutting machine! I have never used such as machine in Japan! #c4l11 [10:14:43] decasm_ | vibram_five_fingers++ [10:14:43] MrDys | awesome. [10:14:56] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:15:00] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:15:01] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [10:15:17] bmljenny | Ecorrado would make a good hockey announcer, [10:15:41] jtgorman | bmljenny: racing's more his thing... [10:15:51] ndushay | go stanford! [10:15:53] ejk | @rate comic_sans presi [10:15:54] atz | i don't think comic sans is accurately described as "a bit cliche" [10:15:56] zoia | ejk: comic sans: 1.3; presi: 9.0. comic sans sucks! presi rocks! [10:16:08] lbjay | MrDys: how they cut their bagels in japan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxZt4Kxj2cE [10:16:08] ---| ---> ranti [ranti@156-56-58-228.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:16:09] MrDys | randall "pink" floyd [10:16:11] mnotess | atz++ [10:16:19] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [10:16:27] decasm_ | they got their name randomly selected. APPLAUSE!!! [10:16:43] lbjay | @who will pretend to be me if my name is called? [10:16:43] zoia | MrDys will pretend to be you if your name is called. [10:16:48] jtgorman | decasm: yeah, I don't quite get that [10:16:49] pberry | Why am I clapping for people that are not me? [10:17:00] bmljenny | Confession: I made a hockey mistake at breakfast. [10:17:04] lbjay | MrDys: i hope you shaved this am [10:17:05] gsf | dot_porter++ [10:17:07] ---| ---> dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:17:12] akorphan | None of those people are me!!! [10:17:17] ndushay | princess? [10:17:17] ---| ---> mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has joined #code4lib [10:17:18] zoia | mjgiarlo + IRC = The Problem [10:17:23] MrDys | and....I'm 0 for 4 on the book draw [10:17:25] lbjay | kayiwa++ [10:17:27] jtgorman | zoia++ [10:17:28] mtomko | bmljenny: you went through the neutral zone with your head down? [10:17:29] atz | you could be applauding the act of giving the thing, or you could be applauding that they haven't bailed early/overslept [10:17:36] ---| ---> mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has joined #code4lib [10:17:38] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [10:17:39] mbklein | What did he mean, "these people"? [10:17:40] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:17:40] mbklein | ;) [10:17:43] ---| ---> altaria [~chatzilla@207.210.129.2] has joined #code4lib [10:17:47] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:17:55] emorgan | Bummer. I didn't win. [10:17:59] dchud | chickmarkley FTW [10:18:05] lbjay | chick++ # i want that dude's hair [10:18:06] decasm_ | mbklein: what do you mean "what did he mean "these people"?" [10:18:10] robcaSSon | MrDys: i "won" last year...last day. got some godawful chat reference book [10:18:13] bmljenny | mtomko: Ha! [10:18:21] robcaSSon | chickmarkley++ [10:18:22] anna3lc | We Are All Winners At Code4lib [10:18:24] MrDys | robcaSSon: came in handy, I'm sure [10:18:26] bmljenny | mtomko: Crosschecking. [10:18:26] ---| ---> chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has joined #code4lib [10:18:30] ejk | They still make books? Who knew? [10:18:31] mtomko | 2 minutes... [10:18:33] akorphan | century_gothic++ [10:18:35] lbjay | @ana We Are All Winners At Code4lib [10:18:35] zoia | lbjay: Eradicate well-worn lesbian [10:18:36] rsinger | edsu: emmanuelle sounds like she's in a very large metal box [10:18:37] mnotess | ejk++ [10:18:39] mlevy | thank you all for your kind applause. really, it was nothing. i didn't deserve it. but i appreciate it. really. i want to thank those who helped me get here .. too numerous to name [10:18:41] lbjay | zoia-- [10:18:50] harvel | scala++ [10:18:53] ndushay | @karma ndushay [10:18:53] zoia | ndushay: Karma for "ndushay" has been increased 54 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 52. [10:18:55] anarchivist | scala++ [10:18:55] lbjay | zoia: shout out! [10:18:56] dchud | mlevy: the music is playing... [10:18:56] robcaSSon | chickmarkley++ [10:18:56] zoia | lbjay: let me ask my lawyer [10:18:58] gsf | chickmarkley++ iii-- [10:19:02] erikhatcher | chick++ [10:19:03] ranti | chickmarkley++ [10:19:03] mbklein | chickmarkley++ [10:19:06] jtgorman | my wife would love those shoes [10:19:06] mbklein | zoia++ [10:19:08] mbklein | iii-- [10:19:12] ndushay | he wore those shoes to go to the art museum [10:19:14] jtgorman | chickmarkley++ [10:19:16] mtomko | oh man, scala... I tried to love it, but I couldn't. [10:19:18] awead1 | iii-- [10:19:22] pjb1 | those shoes give me the creeps [10:19:23] anarchivist | iii-- [10:19:29] * lbjay really is intrigued by scala [10:19:31] yo_bj | iii-- [10:19:31] robcaSSon | pjb1: you're not alone [10:19:33] yo_bj | iii-- [10:19:34] ---| ---> danwho [IceChat7@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:19:36] mbklein | jrochkind: I think I'm only on two committees. And one of them was a "send two emails to Freenode" committee. :) [10:19:37] BillDueber | inline XML??? Yuck. [10:19:39] ---| ---> fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:19:39] dileshni | what are those shoes called? [10:19:46] ejk | XML = drink [10:19:49] MrDys | dileshni: vibram five fingers [10:19:56] lbjay | there's a good FLOSS podcast on lift [10:19:59] KingNightWolf | who cares [10:20:07] lbjay | @who cares? [10:20:07] zoia | julia_ cares. [10:20:10] mnotess | shoes_that_look_like_feet++ [10:20:13] jrochkind | BillDueber: nah, think "XML literals". Like regexp literals, but xml. [10:20:14] akorphan | ejk: is this a drinking game for the lightning talks? [10:20:22] ---| ---> bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:20:25] ---| ---> pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:20:29] dileshni | even the name is a little creepy [10:20:32] BillDueber | Boy, when I htink "functional", I don't think "val t = ..." [10:20:32] bmljenny | GillSans++ [10:20:33] ejk | Drinking game for any time XML appears on a slide [10:20:34] danwho | SweatyToes© [10:20:41] anarchivist | danwho-- [10:20:42] jtgorman | carefully_selected_benchmarks++ [10:20:46] escowles | shoes_that_make_you_run_right++ [10:20:46] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [10:20:50] anarchivist | danwho: are you around 'til tomorrow? [10:20:52] robcaSSon | danwho++ # cringe [10:20:52] anarchivist | running-- [10:21:00] lbjay | @ana throw out the ruby [10:21:00] zoia | lbjay: Worthy, brute thou [10:21:04] ecorrado | red_dot++ [10:21:07] akorphan | barefootish_walking++ [10:21:07] mnotess | shoes_that_make_me_run_away++ [10:21:08] danwho | anarchivist: sadly no. out today [10:21:14] anna3lc | if you don't know who this guy is he will trick you into saying you hate iii and then pull out "i wrote millennium" [10:21:17] wickr | scowl-a? [10:21:17] pjb1 | modern_art++ [10:21:18] gsf | this slide is a mystery [10:21:18] anarchivist | danwho: bummer [10:21:21] gsf | oh [10:21:27] mnotess | hobbit_feet++ [10:21:29] anarchivist | chickmarkley++ [10:21:35] akorphan | Why is this language named after the student chapter of ALA? [10:21:37] gsf | minimalist_art_slide++ [10:21:42] lbjay | was that the event horizon? [10:21:47] gsf | lbjay++ [10:21:49] KingNightWolf | http://www.scala-lang.org/ [10:21:50] pberry | akorphan++ [10:21:52] atz | really well done lightning talk [10:21:52] mbklein | gsf: wrapped in an enigma? [10:21:55] danwho | archivist: next time for sure [10:21:58] anna3lc | chickmarkley++ he is still cool [10:22:01] jaron | did he say "if you need to go faster because you're succeeding"? I like that [10:22:03] jrochkind | there is definitely a lesson in how writing large software that doesn't turn into a mess is hard. [10:22:04] lbjay | mbklein: couched in a riddle! [10:22:05] akorphan | newbies++ [10:22:08] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:22:13] ecorrado | bacon++ [10:22:16] lbjay | it's true! [10:22:19] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:22:22] lbjay | DO NOT WANT [10:22:28] ejk | ACK [10:22:34] decasm_ | scala will be a rest stop on the way to erlang [10:22:35] ecorrado | fun fact: I sleep on couch a lot [10:22:37] ecorrado | hehe [10:22:38] mbklein | Scala is one of the 7 languages in my brand new, free-from-code4lib, "Seven Languages in Seven Weeks" book! [10:22:40] akorphan | problem_statement++ [10:22:40] escowles | @sing dead kennedys : short songs [10:22:41] zoia | I like short songs / [Repeat 13 times] / From Lyrics Mania [10:22:42] BillDueber | @weather 48013 [10:22:43] zoia | BillDueber: Forecast for 48013: No weather data available [10:22:44] druthb | clever_presentations++ [10:22:44] ---| ---> codemart [9c383b6d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.109] has joined #code4lib [10:22:48] mnotess | strange_bullet_lists++ [10:23:02] atz | mbklein: free from or free form? [10:23:06] akorphan | @weather Nicosia, Cyprus [10:23:07] zoia | akorphan: Forecast for Nicosia: February 10, 2011: Chance of Rain. High 17°C (62°F). Winds 7 kph WNW February 11, 2011: Clear. High 13°C (55°F). Winds 14 kph NNE February 12, 2011: Clear. High 16°C (60°F). Winds 14 kph WSW February 13, 2011: Chance of Rain. High 15°C (59°F). Winds 10 kph West February 14, 2011: Chance of Rain. High 17°C (62°F). Winds 7 kph NE February 15, 2011: Chance of Rain. High 17°C (62°F). (1 more message) [10:23:08] highermath | ugly_dogs++ [10:23:12] mtomko | free verse, actually. [10:23:14] BillDueber | it's an excuse for a poor comedy at [10:23:19] anarchivist | @ana free jazz [10:23:20] zoia | anarchivist: Jazz reef [10:23:20] mbklein | decasm_: <erlang> "Go ahead, punk. Let your program crash. I dare ya." [10:23:23] escowles | eraserhead++ [10:23:24] anna3lc | problem_statement++ [10:23:30] ndushay | @sing gershwin : i've got plenty of nuthin [10:23:31] zoia | ndushay: No lyrics found for i've got plenty of nuthin by gershwin [10:23:34] yo_bj | we like newbies [10:23:41] pjb1 | that was the cryptkeeper's dog [10:23:48] ---| ---> dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has joined #code4lib [10:23:51] jtgorman | pjb1++ [10:23:57] tedde | Du you want bibliographic materials on google? [10:24:01] jrochkind | i want his code please [10:24:01] chelociraptor | magic_happening++ [10:24:07] ---| <<-- zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: zacho) [10:24:08] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:24:12] akorphan | well_commented_magic++ [10:24:12] ndushay | will that work for 6.5 million documents? [10:24:13] jrochkind | what's this person's name? [10:24:18] * ecorrado likes the "Fun Facts" on the bottom of the slides [10:24:20] anna3lc | Dave from villanova [10:24:21] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:24:21] lbjay | it is pretty easy [10:24:23] anna3lc | not sure which dave though [10:24:24] jrochkind ndushay: if it uses lbjay's technique, it could. [10:24:29] anna3lc | jrochkind: ^ [10:24:29] ---| ---> ntra [9c383a78@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.120] has joined #code4lib [10:24:31] lbjay | i suck at java and i managed it [10:24:32] demiankatz | Dave Uspal [10:24:37] ndushay | jrochkind: Dave Upsal [10:24:41] eby | would guess mario battali from back here [10:24:54] mbklein | pberry++ # nick2face [10:25:03] eby | @ana crocs in solr [10:25:03] zoia | eby: Scorn col Sir [10:25:04] dchud | drink [10:25:09] mtomko | oh, dear... collections without generics. [10:25:11] bmljenny | DRINK [10:25:12] mbklein | drinking_game++ [10:25:13] akorphan | drinking_game_metahumor++ [10:25:15] erikhatcher | um, no need to package a new WAR... eh? [10:25:16] highermath | it would be much less code in scala [10:25:25] KingNightWolf | shenanigans++ [10:25:25] bmljenny | dang, all I have is coffee [10:25:27] lbjay | how did werewolf go last night? [10:25:31] erikhatcher | simplicity++ [10:25:37] anarchivist | lbjay: pretty good, two smallish games [10:25:37] pberry | lbjay: They lost [10:25:42] jrochkind | if all you want is a list of id's actually, can't you use the Terms handler that's already there? Not sure what this additional handler adds. [10:25:42] ---| <--- druthb [~Ruth@156-56-58-249.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [10:25:43] anarchivist | lbjay: three, sorrry [10:25:47] mbklein | lbjay: Fun. Only went 3-ish rounds. :) [10:25:50] dbs | @decide lesscode4lib or morecode4lib [10:25:50] zoia | dbs: go with lesscode4lib [10:25:51] ndushay | why didn't he do it in scala? [10:25:57] bmljenny | Er, I want citations for these fun facts. [10:26:08] mbklein | anarchivist: Don't forget the "one-and-done" anna3lc-narrated game! [10:26:10] anna3lc | lbjay: /me proved that mbklein is the One True Werewolf Host [10:26:10] pberry | Oddly enough 82.6% of all fun facts are made up [10:26:13] * ecorrado wants a lightning talk on creative uses of sed and awk [10:26:22] ---| ---> reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:26:25] escowles | ndushay: b/c this is his first code4lib [10:26:28] jrochkind | email me at _________ [10:26:30] akorphan | I'm telling you, the next big language is APL. It's coming back, baby! [10:26:33] ndushay | i want to update my slacker. [10:26:34] bmljenny | Blue on blue [10:26:34] robcaSSon | @takify tacos [10:26:35] zoia | Ṭ Ä Ĉ Ộ Ş [10:26:35] mbklein | anna3lc: My first few games sounded a LOT like the one you ran last night. [10:26:35] ---| <<-- gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:26:36] jrochkind | huh? [10:26:41] mbklein | anna3lc: (which I watched on ustream) [10:26:44] erikhatcher | 99.9% of all problems can be solved with a little scripting [10:26:45] ejk | powerpoint-- [10:26:52] lbjay | duspal++ [10:26:52] jrochkind | zombie dog? [10:26:53] danwho | mom?! [10:26:53] mtomko | tell me when it's gone. [10:26:57] bmljenny | Sam the ugly dog++ [10:26:58] anna3lc | mbklein: i was trying to fall back on my d&d experience [10:26:59] mbklein | That thing will be in my nightmares. [10:26:59] atz | powerpunk'd [10:26:59] bertrama | mange-- [10:27:01] harvel | mtomko: it's gone [10:27:04] escowles | gnarly_dogs-- [10:27:05] tokeee | Can I look up now? [10:27:06] mtomko | harvel: thanks! [10:27:13] pmurray | @karma ada [10:27:14] zoia | pmurray: ada has neutral karma. [10:27:16] ---| ---> mcritchlow [~MatthewCr@156-56-58-218.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:27:17] robcaSSon | @decide dog or chupacabra [10:27:18] zoia | robcaSSon: go with chupacabra [10:27:18] akorphan | We need more baby pictures of my cat. [10:27:23] jrochkind | for my lightning talk, i'm going to show you how to close all the windows on a windows machine [10:27:25] ---| ---> asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:27:29] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [10:27:35] dchud | a chupacabra attacked my village when i was a child [10:27:37] charper | jrochkind++ [10:27:38] highermath | chupacabra++ [10:27:40] ---| ---> duspal [david.uspa@156-56-58-143.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:27:47] pyott | chupacabra++ [10:27:56] anarchivist | @sing goatsnake [10:27:57] zoia | Hey man smells like sumping died under the seat / Out of mind maybe / Peel it back-peel it back / You got nothin' but skin [10:27:59] akorphan | chupa_chups++ [10:28:04] mnotess | she just closed a window for a talk coming up shortly! [10:28:06] mbklein | mbklein$ cd home ; sleep 93600 [10:28:07] pjb1 | samsquatches > chupacabras [10:28:08] ecorrado | jrochkind++ [10:28:14] ---| <<-- dlovins_web [8cb6fa15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.250.21] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:28:20] atz | "mobile tool" module... anybody else using this? [10:28:38] mbklein | chupacabra++ [10:28:41] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [10:28:43] bertrama | atz: we tried it, but the mobile redirect wasn't working properly for us. [10:28:46] ndushay | atz: most of the men in the room, i expect. [10:28:53] anarchivist | ndushay++ [10:28:57] pberry | @sing brandston : earthquakes and sharks [10:28:58] zoia | Back in the ambulance I go, / I had a dream about a girl I used to know, / She said "I got to warn ya 'bout Mexico and California." / Earthquakes and sharks to start us off, [10:29:01] robcaSSon | ndushay++ [10:29:02] escowles | fredsquatches > samsquatches [10:29:16] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:29:23] ---| ---> Schmiecs [8cb695c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.199] has joined #code4lib [10:29:32] freqlurker | 2sin luna : california (all the way) [10:29:35] ---| ---> zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:29:40] robcaSSon | atz: i just found it annoyed me...the mobile tools module [10:29:41] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [10:29:48] ndushay | i apologize to all I have offended this year in the channel. [10:29:50] freqlurker | @sing luna : california (all the way) [10:29:51] zoia | it doesn't matter any more / and now i realize i'm livin' like a trucker does / although i haven't got the belly / and though she followed me to california all the way [10:29:57] MrDys | their catalog search is the best mobile version I've seen so far [10:30:00] atz | robcaSSon: yeah, that's what I've heard a lot [10:30:05] * pmurray thinks the podium machine should be a Mac next year. ;-) [10:30:07] anna3lc | pretty classy [10:30:18] anarchivist | @hate html email [10:30:20] danwho | MrDys: me too [10:30:20] lbjay | ndushay++ [10:30:20] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. anarchivist hates html email. [10:30:25] MrDys | heh. my favorite book is only available in their qatar stacks [10:30:31] lbjay | loud typing [10:30:33] robcaSSon | atz: and it really depends on your setup/urls....i just threw the browser sniffing in the theme [10:30:35] ---| ---> gszxcv [9c383aa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.165] has joined #code4lib [10:30:39] anarchivist | @band add Qatar Stacks [10:30:39] zoia | anarchivist: Band 'Qatar Stacks' added to list [10:30:43] escowles | pmurray++ # macs outnumber windows boxes here big time [10:30:46] ndushay | THIS is why I don't want to present on their laptop. faster live demos. [10:30:46] anna3lc | did the air conditioner just come on? [10:31:03] mbklein | I warn all of those I have failed to offend this year in the channel to watch out for next year. [10:31:09] jtgorman | anna3lc: think so [10:31:12] ndushay | that IS a great mobile front page. [10:31:27] robcaSSon | if i haven't offended you, you haven't been paying attention [10:31:28] pberry | mbklein: Calendar or fiscal year? [10:31:29] wickr | I'm headed out. So long and thanks for all the beer [10:31:33] ecorrado | ndushay: I agree, it is a really nice mobile front page [10:31:35] jtgorman | anna3lc: which is fine by me, I was getting warm [10:31:38] mbklein | wickr++ safe travels [10:31:40] ejk | Nice that they have mobile interface on III [10:31:42] mtomko | maybe 2 projectors set up in a/b fashion so the next presenter can get their own laptop set up during the previous presentation? [10:31:43] lbjay | ndushay: good luck with that. hope you don't go the way of gsf. [10:31:44] robcaSSon | wickr++ # ditto [10:31:44] pyott | Very clean design. [10:31:49] jtgorman | wickr: have a good trip back [10:31:52] akorphan | mtomko: great idea [10:31:59] wickr | thanks. code4lib++ indiana++ [10:32:00] atz | seems like unified hours data is a recurring theme this year [10:32:04] ndushay | lbjay: me too. but I'm in mac os, not ubuntu. [10:32:09] akorphan | indiana++ indiana+weather-- [10:32:12] mtomko | might not be practical, but it would save some time. [10:32:15] anna3lc | jtgorman: then you are happy i have not been successful in murdering it with my mind [10:32:16] lbjay | @blame ubuntu [10:32:16] zoia | lbjay: i tried weighing ubuntu on the asshole scale but it broke [10:32:18] bmljenny | Blue websites++ [10:32:18] jrochkind | php? [10:32:23] robcaSSon | jrochkind: yeah [10:32:26] jtgorman | anna3lc++ [10:32:26] pberry | Mobile is the new black [10:32:27] atz | jrochkind: i think that's what she meant [10:32:27] anarchivist | @ana asshole scale [10:32:28] zoia | anarchivist: A clashes lose [10:32:30] ---| ---> kenirwin [9c383b12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.18] has joined #code4lib [10:32:38] MrDys | adios wickr [10:32:40] pyott | hph = php? [10:32:43] jtgorman | anna3lc: sorry, I know I'm abnormal when it comes to temperatures ;) [10:32:43] ndushay | pberry++ [10:32:49] robcaSSon | anarchivist: is that what BigD keeps tweeting about? [10:32:51] jtgorman | well, abnormal in other ways too... [10:32:56] * mbklein will plug his AppleTV into the projector and present wirelessly from his iPad just to be a New Kind of asshole. [10:32:58] anarchivist | robcaSSon++ [10:33:00] highermath | hgh-- [10:33:07] anarchivist | @ana A New Kind of Asshole [10:33:08] zoia | anarchivist: Fool weak handiness [10:33:08] sibylschaefer | want gong [10:33:13] ndushay | mbklein: I'm not surprised. [10:33:18] robcaSSon | sibylschaefer++ [10:33:20] mbklein | @band add A New Kind of Asshole [10:33:20] zoia | mbklein: Band 'A New Kind of Asshole' added to list [10:33:24] yo_bj | newbies++ [10:33:28] akorphan | code4lib_pronounced_with_long_i-- [10:33:31] helrond | long_i++ [10:33:35] akorphan | sinus_infection-- [10:33:40] atz | code4libations [10:33:40] charper | newbie_lightning_talks++ [10:33:40] lbjay | sibylschaefer: ahh, you live! [10:33:45] ejk | @decide code4lieb code4lihb [10:33:45] akorphan | UNC-SILS++ [10:33:45] zoia | ejk: go with code4lieb code4lihb [10:33:48] jrochkind | is that a religion? [10:33:53] dbs | pyott: hph = facebook's hiphop thingy (php converted to C++ and compiled) maybe? [10:33:56] ejk | @decide code4lieb or code4lihb [10:33:56] zoia | ejk: go with code4lihb [10:33:57] pberry | o_0 [10:33:58] anna3lc | ladies_at_the_podium++ [10:34:00] gsf | code4leeb++ [10:34:01] ecorrado | Rutgers_SCILS++ [10:34:02] highermath | digital_humans++ [10:34:04] escowles | code4lib_pronounce_with_long_i++ [10:34:05] pmurray | I'm an analog humanist in a digital world... [10:34:07] ndushay | Developing tools for working with projectors. [10:34:12] knickum | cod4lieb? [10:34:13] dbs | @decide php or pcp [10:34:13] zoia | dbs: go with php [10:34:15] mbklein | Humanists will be the first to do in the Zombie Apocalypse. Their brains are the tastiest. [10:34:17] mbklein | So I hear. [10:34:17] ecorrado | although it is no longer SCILS :( [10:34:20] atz | @takify digital humanist [10:34:20] zoia | Ɖ Ĩ Ğ Ï Ṱ Ấ Ḹ   Ĥ Ừ ℳ Ą Ṇ Į Ṡ Ṯ [10:34:21] robcaSSon | dbs gets wet [10:34:23] ---| ---> morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-17.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:34:30] pberry | I think I'm a vinyl humanist [10:34:32] MrDys | robcaSSon++ [10:34:34] mbklein | s/to do/to go/ [10:34:39] mbklein | pberry++ [10:34:41] awead | @ana digital humanist [10:34:41] akorphan | I'm an analog humanist but a digital robotist [10:34:42] zoia | awead: Mad thug initials [10:34:46] robcaSSon | pberry++ [10:34:48] awead | awesome [10:34:51] dbs | robcasson: you do that to me [10:34:54] atz | mbklein: first to do also. [10:34:56] awead | zoia++ [10:35:00] anarchivist | @who is the next omeka? [10:35:00] zoia | bertrama is the next omeka. [10:35:00] atz | depending which side you're on [10:35:03] robcaSSon | dbs++ # eww [10:35:07] ndushay | @ana relevancy testing [10:35:07] zoia | ndushay: Clattery, evenings [10:35:12] erikhatcher | humanists++ [10:35:21] akorphan | @ana digital penguinist [10:35:21] zoia | akorphan: Guiltiest and in pig [10:35:38] escowles | i'm a human digitalist [10:35:38] jtgorman | akorphan++ [10:35:39] anarchivist | mathis? [10:35:40] mbklein | robcaSSon: A blog I follow recently had a link to http://singles420.com/ -- Online Dating for Pot Smokers. Heh. [10:35:40] ejk | D'OH [10:35:41] pberry | A specifically general tool! [10:35:41] tbw | get use cases first and then generalize [10:35:42] atz | cool map [10:35:44] was | volitional_dependency++ [10:35:45] ndushay | nice! [10:35:45] danwho | mmm tapas [10:35:46] anarchivist | @sing johnny mathis [10:35:47] zoia | A world of shining hope for you and me / A world of shining hope for you and me / From Lyrics Mania [10:35:48] gsf | escowles++ [10:35:49] charper | "I don't know how to live, but I've got a lot of toys" [10:35:52] ---| <<-- danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [10:35:56] robcaSSon | mbklein++ # heh [10:35:59] mnotess | etchings++ [10:36:10] danwho | escowles++ [10:36:10] jtgorman | nice example of complex pre-digital media....so to speak [10:36:13] yo_bj | medieval_manuscripts++ [10:36:16] ---| ---> danhorst [~dbrubak1@156-56-58-207.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:36:21] yo_bj | medievalists++ [10:36:35] escowles | charper: bad_religion++ [10:36:42] gsf | dot_porter++ for all the work with the program committee [10:36:51] gsf | dot_porter++ for this project and talk [10:36:57] ndushay | note to self: send code4lib highlights email to colleagues when I get back. [10:36:58] erikhatcher | double_works++ [10:37:03] pberry | I think we should call controlled vocabulary "vocabulism" [10:37:06] mnotess | @ana old english homilies [10:37:06] zoia | mnotess: Ho Ho! Is idle smelling [10:37:10] erikhatcher | sounds very nines'ish, collex'ish [10:37:10] robcaSSon | dot_porter++ # good talk so far [10:37:16] mnotess | zoia++ [10:37:19] MrDys | @ana to the nines [10:37:20] zoia | MrDys: The tension [10:37:22] robcaSSon | erikhatcher: yeah, she gave a shoutout to NINES [10:37:23] akorphan | modular++ [10:37:30] erikhatcher | robcaSSon: d'oh [10:37:31] robcaSSon | not sure what the tech is yet [10:37:35] kenirwin | pberry "vocabulism" = perjorative? an -ism? [10:37:40] gsf | json_internal_format++ [10:37:46] gugek | this should be a regular program ... so much here. [10:37:47] akorphan | Why... you... vocabulist! [10:37:51] mnotess | @ana Sarah Schmiechen type something [10:37:52] zoia | mnotess: Shes the chestier nymphomaniac [10:38:02] mnotess | yikes! [10:38:03] pmurray | dot_porter++ # She is talking faster. Can she go faster yet? [10:38:06] mtomko | it would be cool if the annotations were stored separately from the original documents and different researchers' annotations could be applied to the images as layers (or perhaps that's what they're doing) [10:38:06] pberry | kenirwin: Don't hate on -ism ;) [10:38:09] awead | whoa [10:38:18] anna3lc | pmurray: apparently yes! [10:38:23] akorphan | dot_power_fist++ [10:38:28] erikhatcher | this is heady out there stuff.... *whew*.... reminds me of my time at ARP.... "how do you build a system..." that can do all these whacky ad hoc hair brained things?! [10:38:29] mbklein | kenirwin: That's so Ismist of you. [10:38:30] escowles | vocabulism is a way of life [10:38:43] anna3lc | lightning_talks++ [10:38:48] ndushay | BillDueber: wanna put a link to your prez on the lightning talks wiki? [10:38:52] robcaSSon | erikhatcher: you miss academia, don't you [10:38:59] anarchivist | variations++ [10:39:01] charper | variations++ [10:39:01] pberry | people_named_berry++ [10:39:01] erikhatcher | dot_porter++ [10:39:02] ---| <<-- morgan8 [~morgan8@156-56-58-17.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:39:03] mbklein | DEVELOPERS - DEVELOPERS - DEVELOPERS - DEVELOPERS - DEVELOPERS - DEVELOPERS - DEVELOPERS - DEVELOPERS [10:39:05] anarchivist | jenlrile++ [10:39:07] jrochkind | what is his name he just said? [10:39:08] anarchivist | jenlrile++ [10:39:09] anarchivist | jenlrile++ [10:39:10] mnotess | variations++ [10:39:13] anarchivist | jrochkind: alex berry [10:39:14] tbw | variations is a really cool project [10:39:15] Schmiecs | Hey! [10:39:30] atz | "actual FRBR".... yeah.... about that... [10:39:31] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [~flyingzum@156-56-58-201.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:39:32] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [10:39:36] ndushay | in fact EVERYONE who presented - get your slides up and linked. I wanna look at them when I get back. [10:39:38] erikhatcher | robcaSSon: i miss going to the library everyday, indeed. [10:39:43] akorphan | WHO SAID SIT DOWN???!? [10:39:44] pberry | mbklein: I dare you to Ballmer dance across the stage [10:39:50] mnotess | Schmiecs: who knew?.... [10:39:52] lbjay | gugek: code4libTV! [10:40:07] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:40:10] ndushay | frbrrrrrrr - feb in indiana [10:40:17] akorphan | Every time I see one of those outrageous Ballmer performances, I'm afraid his heart is just going to explode in his chest right there on stage. [10:40:19] mnotess | ndushay++ [10:40:22] BillDueber | ndushay: I did! I'm pretty sure I did. [10:40:27] BillDueber | ndushay: I'll check. [10:40:29] mbklein | pberry: I can't possibly sweat that much. [10:40:41] jtgorman | akorphan: don't worry, the machines replaced his heart long ago [10:40:50] robcaSSon | akorphan: s/afraid/hoping/ [10:40:52] mnotess | @whois Schmiecs [10:40:52] zoia | mnotess: Error: <domain> must be in .com, .net, .edu, or .org. [10:41:00] mbklein | @cowbell DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS [10:41:00] zoia | mbklein: DEVELOPERS *cowbell* DEVELOPERS *cowbell* DEVELOPERS [10:41:03] duspal | Ballmer++ [10:41:04] mnotess | @whois [10:41:04] zoia | mnotess: (whois <domain>) -- Returns WHOIS information on the registration of <domain>. [10:41:05] pberry | If we all pitch in we can buy FRBR a few more letters so it can be FReeBiRd [10:41:06] BillDueber | ndushay: Ok, looks like someone editied it down poorly -- my itle isn't even there anymore. Will fix. [10:41:11] akorphan | robcaSSon: you've seen through my euphemism. [10:41:13] danwho | jtgorman but his heart is running Vista [10:41:17] escowles | i'm afraid of flying chairs for some reason, these chairs have sharp bits [10:41:19] was | pberry: I'm in [10:41:21] jtgorman | pberry++ [10:41:24] akorphan | danwho: What happens when it bluescreens? [10:41:35] emorgan | @Whois Infomotions.com [10:41:36] yo_bj | pachelbel-- [10:41:38] zoia | emorgan: Error: [Errno 111] Connection refused [10:41:42] jtgorman | danwho: it has a pretty interface that hides everything useful? [10:41:47] anarchivist | @ana christus, der is mein leben [10:41:48] zoia | anarchivist: Heretics undermine bliss [10:41:51] pberry | facets on the left would be a great band name [10:41:52] bmljenny | My heart is still running WindowsME [10:41:53] danwho | akorphan: and where's his crtl-alt-del? [10:42:01] duspal | Anyone's corporate all-hands that winds up as a natural YourTube hit is good in my book (Im also looking at you, president of SouthWest Airlines) [10:42:06] jtgorman | bmljenny: there's no way you'd still be alive... [10:42:07] escowles | zoia++ [10:42:07] mbklein | If your heart is written in Erlang, you can have three heart attacks at the same time and STILL not collapse. [10:42:08] emorgan | I'm getting tired of seeing search boxes. [10:42:09] akorphan | danwho: AUGH! nightmare fuel! [10:42:12] yo_bj | flute_choirs_playing_pachelbel-- [10:42:24] jtgorman | mbklein++ [10:42:28] pjb1 | handbell_choirs_playing_pachelbel++ [10:42:36] mtomko | octubafest [10:42:38] bmljenny | jtgorman: It is rough keeping my liver drivers up to date [10:42:38] Baroquem | pachelbach++ [10:42:41] decasm_ | facets to the left of me, indexes to the right [10:42:49] mbklein | bmljenny: HOT SWAP [10:42:56] ejk | manifestations_of_pachelbel++ [10:42:58] jtgorman | bmljenny++ [10:42:59] escowles | handbell_choirs_playing_bach++ [10:43:01] jaf | decasm_: stuck in the hash with you? [10:43:01] pberry | Canon in D is great for weddings. #justsaying [10:43:07] BillDueber | decasm++ steeler's_wheels++ [10:43:14] mtomko | canon in d is great for my own personal hell. [10:43:24] mbklein | BillDueber: Stealers, man, stealers. [10:43:25] yo_bj | mtomko++ [10:43:30] ndushay | anyone staying here tonight: food at Finch's is FANTASTIC [10:43:31] ---| <<-- bbpennel [~ben@156-56-58-81.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:43:31] mbklein | stealer's_wheel++ [10:43:37] pyott | i want to hear brian eno's version of Pachabel's Canon in D [10:43:37] anarchivist | ndushay: how is the price point? [10:43:40] robcaSSon | stealer's wheels guy just died, right? [10:43:41] yo_bj | newbies++ [10:43:43] pberry | rookies++ [10:43:44] anna3lc | New People: you are no longer new people [10:43:44] paulalbert | pandering++ [10:43:46] anarchivist | aschurr++ [10:43:46] MrDys | anarchivist: really reasonable [10:43:49] BillDueber | robcaSSon: Yep [10:43:50] knickum | packers_wheel++ [10:43:51] anarchivist | MrDys: awesome [10:43:57] decasm_ | finch's++ [10:44:00] pberry | Shes gonna play wow [10:44:02] atz | ouch [10:44:09] mtomko | where does zoia get song lyrics? [10:44:10] escowles | how about a first timer's lightning talk block next year? [10:44:16] anarchivist | mtomko: lyricsmania [10:44:19] duspal | C#++ Say what you want, its a fun language [10:44:19] atz | escowles: no need [10:44:22] BillDueber | escowles: that's a good idea [10:44:25] decasm_ | and village deli is great too. if people are around tomorrow am, they should go [10:44:26] mbklein | robcaSSon: Yeah. Gerry Rafferty. Also the Baker Street / Right Down the Line guy. [10:44:28] pmurray | http://twitter.com/dchud/statuses/35725653785452544 [10:44:34] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cazzerson) [10:44:38] was | escowles: I think the mix is nice, though [10:44:40] BillDueber | The home made potato chips at the VD are awesome [10:44:41] pmurray | dchud++ # What he said... [10:44:44] mbklein | decasm_: Sorry I missed that this morning. Damn neurons. [10:44:45] ndushay | uh oh - i won't have 15 minutes to set up. [10:44:48] ecorrado | having_a_tech_change_laptop_while_you_talk++ [10:44:51] ejk | zombies++ [10:44:58] pberry | Wait, who are the zombies? [10:44:58] pjb1 | campy++ [10:44:59] knickum | zombies++ [10:45:01] BillDueber | disclaimers-- [10:45:03] anna3lc | dchud++ [10:45:04] chelociraptor | campy++ [10:45:08] atz | if we didn't have (m)any rookie talks, then i'd be for a dedicated block [10:45:10] ndushay | i think there should be a firsttimers set of giveaways. [10:45:11] knickum | students=zombies (*always*) [10:45:16] ejk | wait for it [10:45:21] escowles | so let me paraphrase: go not to the channel for advice, for they will say both yes and no and dock your karma [10:45:21] dchud | pmurray, anna3lc: ain't it awesome? [10:45:25] decasm_ | duchampy [10:45:28] freqlurker | waaaiiiittttt fffooooorrrrrr it [10:45:33] dbs | escowles++ [10:45:34] anna3lc | dchud it is, as is your enthusiasm! [10:45:39] tbw | zombies++ [10:45:40] robcaSSon | escowles++ [10:45:43] awead | sound at a library conference?! heresey... [10:45:44] pmurray | dchud: Yep. Very awesome. Hope to see 20 minute talks from some next year. [10:45:44] davidWalker | @weather 92009 [10:45:45] ecorrado | @rate zoombies vampires [10:45:47] zoia | davidWalker: Forecast for Carlsbad, CA: Today: Sunny. Highs 70 to 75. Winds northeast 15 mph in the morning becoming light. Tonight: Clear. Lows 39 to 49. Light winds. Friday: Sunny. Highs 72 to 77. Light winds. Friday Night: Mostly clear. Lows 41 to 51. Light winds. Saturday: Mostly sunny. Highs 73 to 78 near the coast to 77 to 82 inland. Light winds. [10:45:50] zoia | ecorrado: zoombies: 9.4; vampires: 0.6. vampires sucks! zoombies rocks! [10:46:00] atz | noob door prizes is fine by me though [10:46:01] emorgan | The more noobs there are the more the conference will need to be bigger. [10:46:06] davidWalker | 75 degrees! [10:46:09] ndushay | @rate townspeople werewolves [10:46:12] ---| ---> thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:46:12] zoia | ndushay: townspeople: 6.7; werewolves: 9.1. werewolves rocks! [10:46:13] dchud | tom sawyer? [10:46:16] * lbjay can hear the sound over live stream [10:46:24] helrond | i feel like i'm on the subway [10:46:25] pjb1 | lo_fi++ [10:46:29] robcaSSon | dchud++ [10:46:33] pberry | To the Winchester! [10:46:37] anna3lc | this game is awesome [10:46:45] julia_ | davidWalker: I think you need to host c4l in your neighborhood soon. [10:46:52] jrochkind | this is way better than mendeley's game, sorry mendeley [10:46:53] knickum | this_game++ [10:46:53] anna3lc | you can see better on the side screens [10:46:55] ejk | It's like Myst! [10:46:57] dchud | AAAAAAHHHHH! [10:47:06] dbs | Clearly the noobs need to eat the greybeards at the end of conference dinner, to make way for new noobs the following year [10:47:09] mbklein | ejk++ [10:47:14] * ecorrado has fell asleep in a library before but no zoombies, luckily [10:47:14] jtgorman | awesome++ [10:47:15] * akorphan is having Hypercard flashbacks. [10:47:16] mnotess | catalogs are zombies [10:47:18] jrochkind | this game is hard [10:47:18] pjb1 | @sing white zombie [10:47:20] zoia | pjb1: No lyrics found for Make Them Die Slowly by white zombie [10:47:42] mbklein | Unfortunately, reading the book about zombies causes more blood to flow to your BRAAAAAAINZZZZ and brings more zombies. [10:47:44] dchud | did you know that Rob Zombie was a librarians? [10:47:44] mtomko | why aren the zombies in every aisle but the zombie aisle [10:47:45] pberry | Reference zombies [10:47:50] ndushay | is this a guide to call numbers? [10:47:53] jtgorman | akorphan: I was thinking of the various NES games... [10:47:56] akorphan | AUGH! HIPSTER ZOMBIE! [10:47:58] gsf | so many actor/librarians in this world [10:47:59] mtomko | s/aren/are/ [10:48:01] atz | moustaccioed_zombie++ [10:48:04] dchud | MrDys++ [10:48:11] ndushay | it's MrDys [10:48:12] dchud | zombieMrDys [10:48:13] chelociraptor | zombie{++ [10:48:14] anarchivist | @ana steampunk zombie [10:48:14] zoia | anarchivist: Peak zest in mumbo [10:48:14] jrochkind | this is a great game! i recommend it to my friends. [10:48:18] erikhatcher | laff_box++ [10:48:24] mnotess | squeaky_doors++ [10:48:28] dchud | i'm suspending the five minute rule until she fineshes [10:48:29] ecorrado | zombie_with_pale_ale_shirt++ [10:48:31] dchud | finishes [10:48:37] ejk | too soon, man [10:48:40] erikhatcher | zombies_in_libraries++ [10:48:42] gsf | dchud++ [10:48:52] atz | aaaaarticlesssss [10:48:53] mnotess | dchud++ [10:49:11] yo_bj | zombie_articles++ [10:49:20] jaf | zombietime [10:49:22] akorphan | What was that? A U-Matic cassette? [10:49:25] robcaSSon | let_me_out_of_here_already++ # what everyone thinks of academic libraries [10:49:25] chelociraptor | andrea_schurr++ [10:49:26] jrochkind | that wins the lightning talk award [10:49:31] robcaSSon | or maybe just me... [10:49:34] pjb1 | stop! zombietime! [10:49:35] dchud | aaand we're still on time :) [10:49:35] jtgorman | andrea_schurr++ [10:49:37] ---| <<-- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:49:38] MrDys | I feel like I should have heard about this all over the twitters when this came out [10:49:39] mbklein | @decide zombies or zombocom [10:49:39] zoia | mbklein: go with zombies [10:49:39] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:49:39] charper | That was fantastic! [10:49:41] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [10:49:42] csharp | brains++ [10:49:46] anarchivist | aschurr++ [10:49:47] KingNightWolf | awesome !!1 [10:49:49] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:49:53] anna3lc | is there a link to this game? [10:49:55] robcaSSon | where were the birkenstocks on those zombies? [10:49:56] akorphan | What does a vegan zombie crave? [10:49:59] tdonohue | zombies_in_libraries++ [10:50:00] ndushay | wow - she sounded like one of the indigo girls "thanks y'all" [10:50:02] flyingzumwalt | @takify aaaaarticlesssss [10:50:02] zoia | Ǟ Â Ậ Ȁ Ǡ Ŗ Ț Ḯ Ć Ḹ ℰ Ś Ṧ Š Š Ṧ [10:50:02] duspal | aschurr++ [10:50:03] ---| ---> rnanders [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:50:04] anarchivist | akorphan: graaaaaaaaaaains [10:50:06] duspal | epic [10:50:07] robcaSSon | aschurr++ [10:50:08] tokeee | There is a zombie on my lawn [10:50:09] akorphan | anarchivist++ [10:50:11] anna3lc | anarchivist++ [10:50:20] charper | anarchivist++ [10:50:20] mtomko | is a Yes cover [10:50:25] duspal | akorphan: BEEEEAAAAAANNNNNSSSSSS [10:50:27] mbklein | anarchivist++ [10:50:28] bmljenny | Does it tell you the most important location in the libraries? NO [10:50:33] jtgorman | shadowgate? [10:50:35] bmljenny | Bathrooms [10:50:35] pjb1 | is that a yes album cover? [10:50:39] atz | ndushay: tennessee accent [10:50:41] anna3lc | Yes++ [10:50:51] mnotess | bmljenny++ [10:50:53] * erikhatcher claps [10:50:54] akorphan | accessibility++ [10:50:59] mbklein | pjb1: I can feel no sense of measure. [10:51:07] mbklein | @sing yes : leave it [10:51:08] zoia | You know what I mean / We have the same intrigue / As a court of kings / Ah leave it [10:51:09] gsf | bmljenny: but then they'd have to show the gross bathrooms [10:51:21] dchud | aschurr++ [10:51:21] anna3lc | fangs? [10:51:22] anarchivist | fangs++ [10:51:25] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [10:51:26] anarchivist | fangs is awesome [10:51:27] lbjay | fangs++ [10:51:28] awead | @sing yes : you and i [10:51:29] zoia | awead: No lyrics found for you and i by yes [10:51:32] tbw | zombies, fangs, is there a trend here? [10:51:40] bmljenny | gsf: hey they showed gory Griffey. I think the kids can handle it. [10:51:41] mbklein | @sing the tubes : mr. hate [10:51:42] awead | @sing Yes : You and I [10:51:42] zoia | mbklein: No lyrics found for mr. hate by the tubes [10:51:43] zoia | awead: No lyrics found for You and I by Yes [10:51:45] ndushay | sadly, i have to leave directly after my talk. :-( so bye code4lib 2011 [10:51:48] mbklein | @sing tubes : mr. hate [10:51:49] zoia | mbklein: No lyrics found for mr. hate by tubes [10:51:54] MrDys | @ana blah blah blah [10:51:54] zoia | MrDys: Ha Ha! Ball HLBB [10:51:56] mbklein | gah. [10:52:01] pberry | ndushay: Safe travels [10:52:04] MrDys | zoia: HLBB isn't a word [10:52:04] zoia | MrDys: Dey tuk er jerbs! [10:52:06] mbklein | zoia: HLBB? That's cheating. [10:52:07] zoia | mbklein: care to rephrase that as a SPARQL query? [10:52:15] pmurray | ranti++ [10:52:15] anna3lc | ranti++ [10:52:17] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:52:18] lbjay | ndushay: adios! hope to see you next year [10:52:21] davidWalker | ranti++ [10:52:23] erikhatcher | preach! [10:52:32] danwho | ranti++ [10:52:38] pmurray | ranti: Preach on! [10:52:42] ---| <<-- altaria [~chatzilla@207.210.129.2] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:52:43] ---| <<-- zacho [~zacho@156-56-58-88.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: zacho) [10:52:46] jtgorman | ranti++ [10:52:47] atz | ndushay: next time in your timezone [10:52:50] dlovins_ | ranti++ [10:52:57] MrDys | @sing t pain [10:52:57] pberry | jaws-- [10:52:58] zoia | MrDys: No songs found by t pain [10:53:05] MrDys | @sing t-pain [10:53:07] pyott | Roger Dean album art -- Cool! [10:53:07] zoia | MrDys: No songs found by t-pain [10:53:07] ejk | SpeakNSpell++ [10:53:09] freqlurker | @sing lonely island [10:53:10] ndushay | max headroom? [10:53:10] zoia | freqlurker: No songs found by lonely island [10:53:12] MrDys | zoia, eat it [10:53:13] zoia | MrDys: You kill me. Dead. [10:53:13] jrochkind | who was it yesterday at the party trying to tell me searchign for 'to be or not to be' in google books would fine hamlet. wrong. [10:53:16] jrochkind | will kurt? [10:53:16] atz | Mad beatzzzzz [10:53:17] decasm_ | point it at the channel [10:53:19] zoia | SHALL - WE - PLAY - A - GAME? [10:53:21] jrochkind | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=1&tbs=bks%3A1&q=to+be+or+not+to+be&aq=f&aqi=g3&aql=&oq= [10:53:28] highermath | is there a speed control [10:53:37] MrDys | edsu shoutout [10:53:39] jtgorman | makes me feel a bit embarrassed that I think I haven't installed JAWS on my new machine yet [10:53:43] atz | edsu++ [10:53:44] Baroquem | I'd use a screen reader all the time if it talked to me like that. [10:53:48] duspal | Who let my dad in here? The similarities in the voice ar eerie... [10:53:53] danwho | @sing Daft Punk: around the world [10:53:54] zoia | Around the world, around the world / Around the world, around the world / Around the world, around the world [10:54:00] MrDys | index dot asp [10:54:01] anna3lc | decasm++ yes point it at the channel! [10:54:03] jstirnaman | vocoder_with_british_accent++ [10:54:04] akorphan | submit... to... creepy... computer... voice... overlord.... [10:54:21] highermath | where is the "shut up" button [10:54:25] mbklein | Having a computer voice read a browse list of LCSH post-coordinated subject headings out loud sounds like a CIA/Blackwater interrogation strategy. [10:54:37] dlacy | Fitter. Happier. More productive. [10:54:38] anarchivist | mbklein++ [10:54:39] awead | I wonder if you can get it in a Tennessee accent [10:54:40] pberry | Needs a hypnotoad voice [10:54:43] jtgorman | highermath: I imagine so, most screen readers I've seen do. the users I know tend by default to have it read really fast till they get to the parts they're interested in [10:54:44] pjb1 | that's banned by the geneva convention [10:54:46] ---| ---> ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has joined #code4lib [10:54:46] robcaSSon | am i having a stroke? [10:54:53] chelociraptor | pberry++ [10:54:55] ndushay | mbklein++ [10:54:57] awead | @sing Radiohead [10:55:00] gsf | robcaSSon: it's just gas [10:55:01] zoia | Karma Police, arrest this man, he talks in maths / He buzzes like a fridge, he's like a detuned radio / Karma Police, arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo, [10:55:06] ---| <<-- ndushay [~ndushay@156-56-58-131.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:55:10] robcaSSon | gsf++ [10:55:15] yo_bj | mbklein++ [10:55:21] lbjay | can it sing micheal mcdonald with a tennessee accent? [10:55:23] mnotess | @sing schubert [10:55:24] zoia | mnotess: No songs found by schubert [10:55:26] highermath | nvda-project++ [10:55:27] mbklein | lbjay++ [10:55:31] duspal | This might be good white noise to sleep to [10:55:31] emorgan | @sing catfish keith [10:55:32] zoia | emorgan: No songs found by catfish keith [10:55:33] * BillDueber fears running this against our stufff... [10:55:33] pyott | a polite dalek? [10:55:35] mbklein | @sing doobie brothers : china grove [10:55:39] akorphan | WHEN-A-MAN-LOVES-A-WOMAN [10:55:40] highermath | nvda_project++ [10:55:42] anarchivist | @sing kool keith [10:55:44] zoia | ‘round about their homes. / The people of the town are strange / and they’re proud of where they came. / Well, you’re talkin’ ‘bout China Grove, wo, oh, oh, [10:55:46] zoia | [Kool Keith] / New York City (K double-O L) y'know, y'know / (Keith Productions) two step, two step girl [10:55:47] jaron | @zalgo2 RECYCLE MANIA [10:55:48] zoia | jaron: R̵̢E҉̧͟CY̴̴̡CL̀͘E̡ ̸̧M̧̀A̧͢͢NI̴͠À́͡ [10:55:54] * BillDueber can't help but love the Doobie Brothers. [10:56:05] decasm_ | @hussein exterminate [10:56:05] zoia | decasm_: Sexier, unhesitant me [10:56:06] emorgan | @sing iron butterfly [10:56:08] zoia | Sunshine keeps light time from bringing down the sad sad times.Mmm, that sunshine brings brightness to you.Oh, when you are blue, there's that sunshine especially for you.When you're down, look up from the ground.Look up from the ground.Look for the sound.Sunshine keeps light time from bringing on the sad sad times.Mmm, that sunshine brings brightness to you. / From Lyrics Mania [10:56:14] robcaSSon | ranti++ [10:56:16] chelociraptor | ranti++ [10:56:18] anarchivist | @zalgo2 [sing doobie brothers : what a fool believes] [10:56:19] MrDys | regular ole talks [10:56:19] zoia | anarchivist: A͢s ͢h̶e̶ ̨͏̵r̢͞i͞ses ̸͝͝to̸̶ ̵̶̢hér̴̸ ap͠͏̶o͜l̢͡o҉̷͏g͟y͜͠, /̶ ̢̡àn҉͞yb͟͠o̷̧d̡y̶̛ ̴̸é̶l̡͘s̡͡e̕͡ ͟wo̢u̴͝l̵͡d s͟͝͝urely͏ ķ̴no͝w̧̕ ͘͢/ ̴̨͡ḩ͜e҉'̸̢̛s̶̨͠ ͏͢w̧̨̧a̶tc̢̛͘h̵͡i҉̡n͟g̸̢ ̶͘he̴r̸̸ ̀͠͠go. /̸͝ B̛̛u͝҉t̷҉ ̨͞w̧̛h͢͞à̀t͏̵ ̢̕a ̴foò̀l̡͠͝ bel̀͝i҉ev̴̀e̷̡͡s̴ ͝h͢e̶͘ (1 more message) [10:56:28] anarchivist | @more [10:56:28] zoia | anarchivist: ́̕se̷͏ę̷̕s,̸̛̕ [10:56:29] akorphan | OLE! [10:56:31] yo_bj | ranti++ [10:56:32] mbklein | Does it have the Millennium source code on it? [10:56:36] pberry | Is that the one with student data on it? [10:56:38] robcaSSon | mbklein: burn it [10:56:42] pmurray | I also posted about some accessibility tools this morning: http://dltj.org/article/thursday-threads-2011w6/#p2548-accessibility [10:56:43] * chelocirapto loses my name tag [10:56:45] jaron | @redact [zen] [10:56:45] zoia | A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. ███ Tzu [10:56:46] yo_bj | they have to pay me to take that iii drive [10:56:49] freqlurker | mbklein: burn it with fire! [10:56:55] anarchivist | @dunno add A͢s ͢h̶e̶ ̨͏̵r̢͞i͞ses ̸͝͝to̸̶ ̵̶̢hér̴̸ ap͠͏̶o͜l̢͡o҉̷͏g͟y͜͠, /̶ ̢̡àn҉͞yb͟͠o̷̧d̡y̶̛ ̴̸é̶l̡͘s̡͡e̕͡ ͟wo̢u̴͝l̵͡d s͟͝͝urely͏ ķ̴no͝w̧̕ ͘͢/ ̴̨͡ḩ͜e҉'̸̢̛s̶̨͠ ͏͢w̧̨̧a̶tc̢̛͘h̵͡i҉̡n͟g̸̢ ̶͘he̴r̸̸ ̀͠͠go. /̸͝ B̛̛u͝҉t̷҉ ̨͞w̧̛h͢͞à̀t͏̵ ̢̕a ̴foò̀l̡͠͝ bel̀͝i҉ev̴̀e̷̡͡s̴ ͝h͢é̶͘̕se̷͏ę̷̕s,̕ [10:56:55] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1128 added. [10:56:56] mbklein | ndushay++ [10:56:57] jaron | @redact [zen] [10:56:57] zoia | You will not be punished for your █████; you will be punished by your █████. [10:57:03] mbklein | zoia++ [10:57:07] lbjay | zoia++ [10:57:09] jaron | ndushay++ [10:57:11] BillDueber | pmurray++ # love the thursday posts [10:57:12] KingNightWolf | got drunk and went streaking [10:57:20] lbjay | KingNightWolf++ [10:57:22] MrDys | morning? [10:57:23] pmurray | Next week is a 1-hour webinar from Infopeople on an ADA Update: Revised Regulations for Disability Accommodations for the Public: http://www.infopeople.org/training/webcasts/webcast_data/502/index.html [10:57:25] robcaSSon | short_i++ [10:57:26] lbjay | "libe"-- [10:57:28] akorphan | short_i++ [10:57:29] pjb1 | perkiness-- [10:57:32] * mbklein just threw a goat [10:57:34] flyingzumwalt | "libe"-- [10:57:37] lbjay | mbklein++ [10:57:39] anarchivist | ndushay++ [10:57:43] mbklein | code4leeeeb [10:57:46] gsf | ndushay works the crowd [10:57:47] pmurray | BillDueber: Thanks! [10:57:48] eby | @karma goats [10:57:49] zoia | eby: goats has neutral karma. [10:57:50] anarchivist | @sing goatsnake [10:57:50] flyingzumwalt | perky_ndushay++ [10:57:50] jaf | lihbrary++ [10:57:51] pberry | The rary is silent, right? [10:57:52] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for Flower Of Disease by goatsnake [10:57:53] anna3lc | code4baaaa [10:57:55] anarchivist | @sing goatsnake [10:57:56] atz | lbjay, flyingzumwalt: as i said, that must be the short form of "code4libations" [10:57:56] zoia | Hear howls from the moon / Lonely souls that chill the bones / El coyote [10:58:06] mnotess | goats++ [10:58:09] bmljenny | Bacon [10:58:11] ---| ---> jeanrri [9c383a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.92] has joined #code4lib [10:58:17] lbjay | flyingzumwalt++ atz++ [10:58:19] mnotess | bacon++ [10:58:21] anarchivist | @quote add < zoia> Hear howls from the moon / Lonely souls that chill the bones / El coyote [10:58:21] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #2519 added. [10:58:22] bmljenny | God I love bacon [10:58:24] mnotess | @karma bacon [10:58:24] zoia | mnotess: Karma for "bacon" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. [10:58:25] akorphan | The nice thing about short-i Code4Lib is that people can scoff with distaste "Damn Code4Libbers" in the same way they once scoffed "Damn womens' libbers" [10:58:35] pjb1 | @sing scatterbrain [10:58:36] zoia | I'm not going down with the ship / Everyone's captain / Trying to tell you what to do / I want to do what's right for me [10:58:42] flyingzumwalt | @bartender atz [10:58:43] * zoia fills a pint glass with Cantillon Bruocsella 1900 Grand Cru, and sends it sliding down the bar to atz (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/388/2559) [10:58:45] csharp | code4liberals [10:58:48] robcaSSon | akorphan++ # exactly [10:58:48] lbjay | ENJOY THE KARMA KIDS, IT'S ALL GOING AWAY IN 62 MINUTES! [10:58:53] ecorrado | bacon++ [10:58:56] duspal | Set slides .... to ludicrous speed! [10:58:57] akorphan | ibahn-- [10:59:00] flyingzumwalt @bartender lbjay [10:59:00] * zoia fills a pint glass with Paulaner Salvator Doppel Bock, and sends it sliding down the bar to lbjay (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/124/387/) [10:59:01] MrDys | @sing radiohead : karma police [10:59:02] bmljenny | Cantillon++ [10:59:02] zoia | Karma Police, arrest this man, he talks in maths / He buzzes like a fridge, he's like a detuned radio / Karma Police, arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo, [10:59:04] jaf | @karma [10:59:04] zoia | jaf: Highest karma: "mbklein" (463), "anarchivist" (412), and "edsu" (394). Lowest karma: "iii" (-138), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (jaf) are ranked 39 out of 3618. [10:59:06] mbklein | Noooo!!!!! My kaaaarrrrrmrmmmmaaaaaa!!!! [10:59:06] erikhatcher | ccomputer video guy++ [10:59:08] mnotess | temporary_karma++ [10:59:08] mbklein | @karma [10:59:08] zoia | mbklein: Highest karma: "mbklein" (463), "anarchivist" (412), and "edsu" (394). Lowest karma: "iii" (-138), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (mbklein) are ranked 1 out of 3619. [10:59:17] KingNightWolf | turkey bacon++ [10:59:18] lbjay | karma_reset++ [10:59:19] anna3lc | @karma [10:59:20] robcaSSon | @karma robcaSSon [10:59:20] zoia | anna3lc: Highest karma: "mbklein" (463), "anarchivist" (412), and "edsu" (394). Lowest karma: "iii" (-138), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (anna3lc) are ranked 46 out of 3619. [10:59:20] awead | @karma awead [10:59:21] mnotess | @karma [10:59:21] pberry | lbjay: Can we snapshot it? [10:59:22] zoia | robcaSSon: Karma for "robcaSSon" has been increased 225 times and decreased 30 times for a total karma of 195. [10:59:23] zoia | awead: Karma for "awead" has been increased 5 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 4. [10:59:24] zoia | mnotess: Highest karma: "mbklein" (463), "anarchivist" (412), and "edsu" (394). Lowest karma: "iii" (-138), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (mnotess) are ranked 279 out of 3619. [10:59:26] akorphan | @karma [10:59:26] zoia | akorphan: Highest karma: "mbklein" (463), "anarchivist" (412), and "edsu" (394). Lowest karma: "iii" (-138), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). You (akorphan) are ranked 36 out of 3619. [10:59:30] mbklein | I used all my best stuff this year! I got nothin' left! [10:59:36] chelociraptor | @karma [10:59:37] anna3lc | mbklein++ [10:59:37] zoia | chelociraptor: Highest karma: "mbklein" (463), "anarchivist" (412), and "edsu" (394). Lowest karma: "iii" (-138), "central_IT" (-31), and "solaris" (-17). [10:59:37] ecorrado | problem with using complaints is you only here from squeaky wheels [10:59:39] lbjay | pberry: i forget [11:00:00] ecorrado | people that like what is working don't complain [11:00:01] decasm_ | demo at the end = bury the lede [11:00:01] akorphan | @karma code4lib_pronounced_with_long_i [11:00:02] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "code4lib_pronounced_with_long_i" has been increased 0 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -4. [11:00:08] eby | @sing handsome furs : handsome furs hate this city [11:00:10] zoia | eby: No lyrics found for handsome furs hate this city by handsome furs [11:00:15] ---| <<-- younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:00:19] jaron | @zalgo2 CUCUMBER [11:00:20] zoia | jaron: C҉͞UC̡͡Ư̵̧M̴B͠ER͢͞ [11:00:22] anarchivist | cucumber++ [11:00:25] jrochkind | i'm not sure you do, i think just testing the solr query itself might be enough for relevancy features. [11:00:31] awead | @karma cucumber [11:00:32] zoia | awead: Karma for "cucumber" has been increased 6 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 5. [11:00:33] jaron | cucumber++ [11:00:45] bmljenny | I want a cucumber and bacon sandwich [11:00:49] mnotess | @ana cucumber [11:00:50] zoia | mnotess: Crumb cue [11:00:53] anna3lc | bmljenny++ [11:00:55] jrochkind | you could of course easily point cucumber just at the direct solr api, if you agreed with me [11:00:58] KingNightWolf | gmljenny++ [11:01:04] akorphan | bmljenny: With mayo? [11:01:06] awead | @ana cucumber and bacon sandwich [11:01:08] zoia | awead: Drab now scum chic abundance [11:01:09] BillDueber | Am I the only one who immediately chceked that search in his/her own OPAC? [11:01:11] * ecorrado puts cucumbers in brine and makes pickles [11:01:12] eby | @who agrees with jrochkind [11:01:13] zoia | highermath agrees with jrochkind. [11:01:16] mnotess | @ana cumber and bacon frappe [11:01:17] zoia | mnotess: Fame and burp crab ponce [11:01:18] bmljenny | akorphan: Oh yes!! [11:01:20] ecorrado | pickles++ [11:01:25] akorphan | bmljenny++ [11:01:45] BillDueber | jrochkind: it depends on if you're testing just the search results or the combination of translate-to-solr-query + search results [11:01:47] mbklein | bmljenny: http://bacolicio.us/http://code4lib.org/conference/2011 [11:01:53] flyingzumwalt | @ translationparty green is good red is bad [11:01:55] jrochkind | BillDueber: ah, good point. [11:01:59] zoia | flyingzumwalt: Red, green, good or bad [11:02:00] BillDueber | jrochkind: But it suddenly strikes me that we've had this talk already. [11:02:12] ---| ---> younga [~younga@156-56-58-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:02:16] bmljenny | Mbklein++ [11:02:17] jrochkind | BillDueber: if we did I forgot it. I've been re-convinced, yes, test the whole stack [11:02:20] ---| ---> chickmarkley [~chickmark@156-56-59-67.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:02:25] KingNightWolf | red is good green is bad ? [11:02:29] akorphan | colorblind_accessibility++ [11:02:34] ---| ---> abugseye [48a40672@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.164.6.114] has joined #code4lib [11:02:36] chelociraptor | what about a babyhead collection? [11:02:37] bmljenny | mbklein: That is the most beautiful website I have ever seen. (wipes tear) [11:02:39] * pmurray giggles. [11:02:51] duspal | The head on that clipart is unnaturally large [11:02:53] anarchivist | @ana green rayon [11:02:53] zoia | anarchivist: Or an energy [11:02:58] duspal | ]Its kinda wigging me out [11:03:03] KingNightWolf | baconlisheeessss [11:03:03] jrochkind | i've got a book. https://catalyst.library.jhu.edu/catalog?q=le+rayon+vert&search_field=all_fields&commit=search&commit=search [11:03:04] mnotess | @ana nod to bill dueber [11:03:05] zoia | mnotess: Brute, noble dildo [11:03:07] MrDys | textmate++ [11:03:09] pberry | guess: they use JIRA [11:03:10] mbklein | bmljenny: bacolicio.us magically enhances the aesthetics of any web site. [11:03:11] lbjay | zoia-- [11:03:12] BillDueber | jrochkind: Last time around, you made what I thought was a very compelling argument that the user->solr translation should be a separate set of tests [11:03:22] ejk | duspal: the head also a large, featureless sphere [11:03:29] jrochkind | BillDueber: oh, did I? Maybe I was right. hell if i know. [11:03:32] bmljenny | mbklein: I like that it's not flash [11:03:44] akorphan | whoa, interesting template. [11:03:56] akorphan | also, color. [11:04:01] atz | nice tab complete [11:04:02] ---| <<-- escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:04:03] jrochkind | BillDueber: i think you definitey want unit tests for the user->solr translation. But maybe your relevancy tests should still be full stack cucumber, why not. I dunno. Whatever works. [11:04:04] mnotess | zoia unable to distract Bill Dueber from purposeful discussion [11:04:04] zoia | mnotess: can we change the subject to milk and cookies or something? [11:04:08] BillDueber | jrochkind: You were right, and I was wrong. [11:04:12] ---| ---> danwho_ [IceChat7@137.110.8.235] has joined #code4lib [11:04:23] duspal | ejk: No face? I can handle that fine. My weirdness meter is a bit off.... [11:04:24] eby | @eightball is everyone wrong [11:04:24] zoia | eby: Come again? [11:04:42] BillDueber | Why do people think it's easier to read stuff on a black background?????? [11:04:47] akorphan | This interface is simpler than JIRA, that's for sure. [11:04:57] jrochkind | but I think this is an example of 'the user is not always right'. Some users will be searching for 'rayon' and MEAN the fabric. Just cause one user didn't, you can't just go ahead and change your whole app. [11:05:01] flyingzumwalt | BillDueber: because it is. [11:05:03] anarchivist | akorphan: they use JIRA too [11:05:09] KingNightWolf | that's what she said [11:05:11] jrochkind | Often our users specs are "the computer should read my mind and do what I meant." I can not write that software. [11:05:24] ---| <<-- danwho [IceChat7@156-56-58-215.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:05:32] BillDueber | flyingzumwalt: Defeated me with the crushing grip of your impeccable logic yet again. [11:05:43] flyingzumwalt | @rate "black background" "white background" "unicorn rainbows" [11:05:46] atz | BillDueber: it's the default for a lot of terminals [11:05:48] akorphan | jrochkind: "Not the user's problem." [11:05:48] zoia | flyingzumwalt: black background: 7.7; white background: 5.9; unicorn rainbows: 10.0. unicorn rainbows rocks! [11:05:51] lbjay | yo dawg, ... ah, whatever [11:06:03] jrochkind | why isn't it really what we want? [11:06:03] duspal | BillDueber: I dont know for everyday programming, but every book and class on communication recommended dark background, light text for slides at least [11:06:04] mbklein | GOP CAGE MATCH: “I will not call [Rick Santorum] the knuckle-dragging Neanderthal,“ Palin continued. “I'll let his wife call him that instead.“ [11:06:15] anna3lc | BillDueber: i don't think it's easier to read necessarily; it's just easier to look at for long periods of tme without burning my retinas [11:06:15] flyingzumwalt | BillDueber: zoia has spoken [11:06:26] ---| ---> tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has joined #code4lib [11:06:27] anna3lc | zoia++ [11:06:34] dbs | BillDueber: WWSJD? (where SJ = Steve Jobs) [11:06:37] ---| ---> webczarina_ [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has joined #code4lib [11:06:39] akorphan | "The trashheap has spoken!" [11:06:45] pberry | mbklein: Oh snap [11:06:49] KingNightWolf | Steve Jobs++ [11:06:50] ejk | akorphan++ [11:07:00] jrochkind | textmate, huh? Maybe i should get them to buy me textmate [11:07:07] BillDueber | jrochkind: You can't read their mind. But you *can* make sure that when they see your results, they can, at worst, think "Oh. That's what they're doing. I can see why they might do that." You know. If your user isn't an idiot, anyway. [11:07:08] rsinger | http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for [11:07:10] * ecorrado wonders if you fixed this, what the fix could have broke elsewhere # had that problem with relevancy ranking at last job [11:07:12] mbklein | textmate++ [11:07:14] bess | jrochkind: textmate++ [11:07:16] pberry | textmate++ [11:07:16] * MrDys waits for jrochkind's head to explode [11:07:18] anarchivist | textmate++ [11:07:20] decasm_ | (g)vim++ [11:07:26] mtomko | textmate looks like a nice-ish editor, but I wonder if it's enough to get me to stop using macvim or eclipse... [11:07:29] * anarchivist will be waiting for textmate 2 forever, thoguh [11:07:30] bess | ecorrado: that's why you're constantly developing your test suite [11:07:36] ---| <<-- ntra [9c383a78@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.120] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:07:36] mbklein | rsinger: ow. I think my bones just turned to dust reading that question. [11:07:37] jtgorman | fiddling_bits_on_disk++ [11:07:45] bmljenny | I like light text on dark, but not if I have to keep switching to other interfaces frequently. End up with retina burn in [11:07:52] MrDys | jrochkind: they bought tm for me. it's mac-only [11:07:57] bess | ecorrado: when you make a change, you run all the tests & see if it broke anything else & then evaluate how important the broken ones are — does one trup the other? [11:08:02] pberry | TM2 is the Duke Nukem Forever of text editors [11:08:05] jrochkind | if one user says "when I search for rayon I just want to see the french results", the next day another user will report a problem "I searched for rayon and all I got was this french crap" [11:08:06] bess | s/trup/trump/ [11:08:10] rsinger | mbklein: can you repeat that into my ear horn, please? [11:08:25] KingNightWolf | pberry++ [11:08:30] ecorrado | bess: how are you going o test every possible search a user is going to make? [11:08:40] ---| <<-- webczarina [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:08:42] bess | ecorrado: you're not, but you can test the ones people complain about [11:08:44] mbklein | pberry: "I came here to write code and chew gum. And I'll all out of gum." [11:08:47] * tokeee thinks that tweaking for specific results using generic knobs very quickly gets impossible. The only way to do that is to make specific rules [11:08:50] rjhoyle | The search was not for "Rayon", the search was for "Le Rayon Vert" [11:08:52] ecorrado | again, squeaky wheel problem [11:08:53] mbklein | rsinger: EH?! [11:08:59] jtgorman | jrochkind: well, I think that's why they made it clear that it was the full name [11:09:02] jaron | ecorrado: this is like exception driven development [11:09:03] mtomko | tokeee: in my experience, you're right. [11:09:23] lbjay | @band add the generic knobs [11:09:23] zoia | lbjay: Band 'the generic knobs' added to list [11:09:30] akorphan | this kind of language bothers me for the same reason as Wolfram Alpha: you have to guess as to what KIND of natural language the interface is expecting, and if you don't guess right, the results are unpredictable. [11:09:41] dbs | (g)vim++ # have to agree with decasm occasionally [11:09:41] duspal | Steve Jobs -- wanna stick it to the man? Buy Apple products. You'll teach those corporate squares a lesson! Let Steve control all your hardware, software and download needs, in the name of counterculture! Yea! Down with the fascists! Steve's word is law! [11:09:44] freqlurker | akorphan++ [11:09:46] bmljenny | akorphan++ [11:09:49] pberry | lolcats++ [11:09:51] dbs | duspal++ [11:09:51] lbjay | vim++ [11:09:53] atz | i agree you can end up chasing your tail if you just go on (unfiltered) complaints [11:09:53] anarchivist | akorphan: in re: cucumber? [11:09:53] pyott | we need a testing framework call mall-rat [11:10:02] akorphan | anarchivist: yeah [11:10:04] lbjay | @fight webrat lolcat [11:10:05] zoia | lbjay: lolcat: 112000, webrat: 5530 [11:10:19] akorphan | granted, I am guessing cucumber is at least documented somewhere [11:10:20] fumi | rspec++ [11:10:21] atz | but you should use user feedback to make yourself *aware* of issues (if not dictate fixing them) [11:10:22] mtomko | I think you would need a very large corpus of tests in order to avoid overfitting. [11:10:24] anarchivist | akorphan: the documentation is pretty good, but it does take a little training to get other people to write things properly [11:10:24] jaron | akorphan: you make up the language. you write your own steps so it can be the language your users would use [11:10:31] duspal | pberry++ for the Duke Nukem reference [11:10:31] akorphan | but the natural languageness of it gives a false sense of empowerment [11:10:34] lbjay | duspal++ # preach it, brother [11:10:37] bess | mtomko: yes, you do need a large copus of tests [11:10:37] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [11:10:38] robcaSSon | cucumber is rails-only, correct? [11:10:45] bmljenny | R S P E C find out what it means to me [11:10:49] anarchivist | robcaSSon: ruby only [11:10:51] bess | robcaSSon: nope, it's not even ruby-only [11:10:55] robcaSSon | gotcha [11:10:55] lbjay | robcaSSon: nope [11:10:58] anarchivist | ah, right [11:10:58] erikhatcher | robcaSSon: cucumber is Ruby, but can hit any sites, etc [11:11:02] BillDueber | robcaSSon: Nope. Cuke is a generic system with some special hoks for rails [11:11:05] robcaSSon | youse_guys++ [11:11:06] ---| User: *** danwho_ is now known as danwho [11:11:08] bess | anarchivist: it used to be but it has bindings for other languages these days [11:11:16] anarchivist | bess: yeah, i keep forgetting that [11:11:18] eby | i forget who all asked (bess, some others) but http://www.threadless.com/product/1020/November_Was_A_Good_Month [11:11:21] lbjay | robcaSSon: i thought it was too, but ndushay learned me different [11:11:26] erikhatcher | we just put in screenshot capability into our cuke runs (for our product documentation) [11:11:29] bess | eby++ thanks! [11:11:33] flyingzumwalt | robcaSSon: there are implementations in other languages [11:11:40] flyingzumwalt | ie Php - cucumber - GitHub [11:11:42] anna3lc | threadless++ [11:11:47] flyingzumwalt | oops. https://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wiki/PHP [11:11:49] pmurray | Breaking News, for those that haven't been keeping track... [11:11:52] akorphan | slop++ [11:11:53] pmurray | @twit --id 35730167292903424 [11:11:53] zoia | pmurray: <AJELive> The CIA chief reportedly says there is a "strong likelihood" Mubarak will step down tonight #egypt #jan25 [11:11:55] * tokeee is thinking about mining logs (user searched for X, clicked result #Y in the list) to get a large corpus of tests like the ones shown, then doing some genetic algorithm learning-thingie to get the best compromise [11:11:59] jrochkind | robcaSSon: yeah, cucumber is simply automating access to an http app. people definitely use it for testing non-ruby apps, cause they like it's design. [11:12:00] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:12:08] jaron | erikhatcher: i'm interested in that feature, since i do headless (but in a real browser running in the background) javascript testing [11:12:12] atz | $5 deal. nice [11:12:13] mbklein | yo_bj: "Do you want me to order a pizza?" "Whatever, I don't care." "I already ordered a pizza." [11:12:14] BillDueber | pmurray++ # for reminding us of the world beyond the IMU [11:12:16] anarchivist | http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=Vampire,zombie,werewolf,MARC&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3 [11:12:21] bmljenny | tokeee: That makes more sense to me [11:12:23] lbjay | pmurray-- # distracting [11:12:26] mtomko | tokeee: in my old job we used to use genetic algorithms to generate matching rules based on tagged data, and it worked really well. [11:12:55] jaron | tokeee: that'd be interesting too--mining logs for clicks [11:12:58] mtomko | I assume they still do use a genetic algorithm to do it because it was very effective. [11:12:58] julia_ | tokeee: That's assuming users give you click feedback, and don't just write down the call numbers they want from the browse screen. [11:13:01] flyingzumwalt | I've even seen people use cucumber to test deployments on vmware -- tests whether nagios is happy, etc. [11:13:05] bmljenny | tokeee: But wish we had more satisfaction indicators as to whether user LIKED #n [11:13:12] yo_bj | mbklein: "You think about everything, ha ha ha. " [11:13:17] robcaSSon | robcaSSon: use google, ya jackass [11:13:18] awead | nagios++ [11:13:20] tokeee | mtomko: Interesting. My main concern is that it only works for displayed results, so it is of little use if the original relevance ranking really sucks [11:13:21] anna3lc | anarchivist++ [11:13:21] atz | flyingzumwalt: interested [11:13:23] akorphan | jThreadless has had a dearth of robot themed shirts lately... [11:13:28] BillDueber | julia_: That's what I was thnking. My users don't exercise enough of my system for me to get much data. [11:13:40] mbklein | yo_bj++ # I spent far too long watching clips the other night [11:13:40] highermath | I think that Cucumber is platform agnostic for webapps [11:13:42] tokeee | bmljenny: The user loaning a book is somewhat of an indicator [11:13:58] mnotess | suddenly realized this isn't a lightning talk [11:14:04] mtomko | tokee: that's true - in our case, we had a lot of manually tagged data where people went past the top 10 results.. but I still sometimes worried about overfitting (as discussed above) [11:14:05] yo_bj | mbklein: have you seen the entire film, or just the clips? [11:14:14] mnotess | short_attention_span-- [11:14:17] BillDueber | tokeee: There's no reason you have to use webrat. You could write tests against a straight-up solr search (or whatever) and get as many results as you want. Code is not hard. [11:14:19] bmljenny | tokeee: True... How wd you link that back up to orig search? [11:14:20] julia_ | tokeee: How do you match searches to checkouts? [11:14:27] mbklein | yo_bj: Just the clips. [11:14:34] eby | also of interest for this crowd http://www.threadless.com/product/157/Afternoon_Delight [11:14:36] robcaSSon | sometimes [11:14:45] atz | yeah, not really [11:14:49] mbklein | eby++ [11:14:57] tokeee | bmljenny, julia_: We have a tightly integrated system so that parts is not a problem [11:15:04] duspal | crickets++ [11:15:05] bohyunkim | eby: lol [11:15:07] robcaSSon | eby++ threadless++ [11:15:11] anarchivist | akorphan: look through ndushay's feature sets - http://www.stanford.edu/~ndushay/code4lib2011/searching_features/boolean.feature # for example [11:15:12] flyingzumwalt | atz:Behavior Driven Infrastructure: http://www.slideshare.net/jhulten/behavior-driven-infrastructure-200101 [11:15:12] highermath | Anyone using Splunk? [11:15:14] atz | librarians expect all kinds of magic and hacks from legacy systems that no longer apply [11:15:16] yo_bj | mbklein: You need to watch the film for the full experience. I recommend watching it alone first before going to a theater showing, so you can catch all the awful dialog [11:15:17] jrochkind | totally. 50% of error reports I get is "the feature is broken, here's a screen shot." [11:15:22] bmljenny | tokeee: A user has to be logged in to search? [11:15:24] * BillDueber has been thinking of taking all those record ids I recorded showing that someone looked hard at a record and a chceckout in the next 24 hours. Of course, lots of our stuff doesn't circulate. [11:15:24] jrochkind | um, thanks! Okay, it's fixed, here's a screen shot! [11:15:32] awead | highermath: I used an install of it [11:15:35] atz | flyingzumwalt++ #thx [11:15:49] flyingzumwalt | atz: How Hudson Hit Puppet with a Cucumber http://www.slideshare.net/jedi4ever/hudson-hit-puppet-with-a-cucumber [11:15:50] mbklein | anarchivist: Vampires overtook MARK in 1994. Damn those teenagers. [11:15:57] jrochkind | BillDueber: what'd you do with that? Just data on what people checked out as a result of finding in the catalog? [11:15:58] tokeee | bmljenny: No, but to loan a book it is a requirement and our system merges the states from before login to after [11:16:04] ---| ---> escowles [~escowles@156-56-59-35.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:16:05] ranti | eby++ [11:16:10] duspal | team_jacob++ [11:16:12] akorphan | mbklein: One thing I never could stand about Santa Clara... [11:16:12] BillDueber | jrochkind: Yeah, but that's just training. I mean, my god, if someone managed to train them to get a screen shot and send it, you can re-train them to file a better bug report. [11:16:19] flyingzumwalt | @ana shiny knobs [11:16:19] zoia | flyingzumwalt: In shy knobs [11:16:28] flyingzumwalt | zoia-- [11:16:31] eby | @hussein shiny knobs [11:16:31] mbklein | s/MARK/MARC/ [11:16:31] ejk | Double Unicorn... All The Way [11:16:31] zoia | eby: Boyishness in hunks [11:16:36] anarchivist | @sing echo and the bunnymen : the puppet [11:16:37] * jtgorman would take at least a screenshot [11:16:38] zoia | you knew about this / with your head in your hands / all along / i was the puppet [11:16:38] jrochkind | BillDueber: i'm trying, i'm trying. but they have to be capable of explaining in logic words what's wrong. [11:16:41] robcaSSon | ndushay++ [11:16:45] ---| ---> BigD [~dfleming@156-56-58-229.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:16:49] pmurray | test_driven_deployments++ [11:17:00] BigD | highermath: do you still have a spot in your car? [11:17:01] jtgorman | rather than "is the internet working?" [11:17:11] jtgorman | "no, no it's not. Someone sat on it." [11:17:12] BillDueber | jrochkind: It'd be nice to build a correlation as an indication that people are actually interested in those records, as opposed to just seeing if there's an elink they didn't know about or something. [11:17:14] mbklein | jrochkind: "What were you doing just before that error happened?" "MY JOB! NOW DO YOURS AND FIX IT!" [11:17:24] flyingzumwalt | @quote ndushay: Zap 'em back with super love! [11:17:24] jrochkind | mbklein: hehehe [11:17:24] highermath | BigD: as of a few moments ago, yes [11:17:26] zoia | flyingzumwalt: stop affrontin' [11:17:26] BillDueber | mbklein++ [11:17:28] julia_ | jrochkind: I'm just happy when I *get* bug reports. I cannot for the life of me get students to report problems -- I never hear that something isn't working until a faculty member reports it. [11:17:30] bmljenny | tokeee: Cool! [11:17:37] tokeee | Of course we also encounter hard requirements, but those are mostly from librarians [11:17:43] jrochkind | julia_: I don't get students OR faculty reporting problems. Only librarians. [11:17:43] akorphan | Hmm, this slide looks... familiar... [11:17:43] * ejk claps [11:17:45] jaron | ndushay++ [11:17:47] ranti | ndushay++ [11:17:48] ---| <<-- charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:17:48] lbjay | ndushay++ [11:17:48] BigD | highermath: can i please reserve a spot for joy sargis? [11:17:54] bess | ndushay++ [11:17:55] anna3lc | ndushay++ [11:17:59] BillDueber | julia_: Students tend to assume they screwed up. Faculty never assume they screwed up. [11:18:00] anarchivist | ndushay++ [11:18:01] jrochkind | yeah, nice presentation [11:18:05] lbjay | ecorrado++ # /me lol'd [11:18:05] bess | bye everyone! gotta catch a ride with ndushay! [11:18:11] mnotess | red_laptop_covers++ [11:18:11] ---| ---> djwonk [~david@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #code4lib [11:18:11] duspal | ndushay++ [11:18:12] mbklein | Gotta head to the airport, folks. Good con, y'all. [11:18:12] anarchivist | bess: bye! [11:18:13] MrDys | ndushay++ [11:18:15] BillDueber | ndushay++ [11:18:15] * anarchivist hugs bess [11:18:16] ---| <<-- bess [~bess@156-56-58-174.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:18:17] awead | bess: cya [11:18:17] cbeer | ndushay++ [11:18:18] robcaSSon | bess++ # safe travelling [11:18:19] tokeee | bmljenny: Actually it is. Not my doing though, I have little clue when it comes to web-things. Mads is the wizard on that [11:18:22] MrDys | mbklein: get outta heeeeuh [11:18:22] bmljenny | BigD: You leaving today? [11:18:23] eby | @dunno add can i see a screenshot? [11:18:23] zoia | eby: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1129 added. [11:18:27] duspal | red++ Red makes the laptop go faster [11:18:28] julia_ | BillDueber: I like that explanation. [11:18:28] jrochkind | BillDueber: neither students nor faculty care enough -- it didn't work, okay try something else, or give up on finding what i need through the library, the library is always broken anwyay [11:18:29] anna3lc | bye bess and naomi save travels [11:18:30] highermath | BigD: I will put it in the wiki, thus making it real [11:18:34] flyingzumwalt | ndushay++ [11:18:34] BigD | bmljenny: nope, joy is [11:18:36] anna3lc | s/save/safe [11:18:38] ejk | @dunno [11:18:38] zoia | ejk: I don't know what you just said because I was thinking about Batman [11:18:40] BigD | highermath: i'm doing that now [11:18:43] dchud | ksclarke's beard is seriously intimidating [11:18:46] bmljenny | BigD: Whatcha doin finite? [11:18:47] ---| <<-- mbklein [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/professional/mbklein] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:18:47] jrochkind | ndushay++ good presentation [11:18:53] atz | later bess [11:18:53] mnotess | @dunno [11:18:54] zoia | mnotess: Let me see you get down! <<NO WAY>> Let me see you get down! <<OK>> D-O-W-N, let me see you get down! [11:18:56] * flyingzumwal wonders whether the quote function is broken? [11:18:57] bmljenny | BigD: Damn autocorrect, tonite [11:18:59] ---| <--- rnanders [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:19:03] yo_bj | I'm pretty sure that there will be some code4libbers needing this after the conference: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-08/tech/confession.ap_1_new-app-confession-catholic-priests?_s=PM:TECH [11:19:05] erikhatcher | twiddling_shiny_knobs++ [11:19:09] ejk | TO THE CLOUD [11:19:16] MrDys | @quote random [11:19:16] erikhatcher | ndushay++ # nicely done! [11:19:16] zoia | MrDys: Quote #2116: "*robcaSSon waits to be @quoted" (added by eby at 02:19 PM, January 13, 2010) [11:19:16] pjb1 | data++ [11:19:18] ---| ---> rnanders [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:19:26] erikhatcher | Mmmmm, bacon [11:19:31] flyingzumwalt | MrDys: how do you add a quote? [11:19:35] BigD | highermath: well, i'm trying... web is slow... [11:19:42] akorphan | UPLOAD WEB GRID 3.0 TO THE CYBERINFRASTRUCTURE CLOUD! [11:19:44] mnotess | reposophere++ [11:19:44] MrDys | flyingzumwalt: @quote add, but you have to be auth'd with zoia [11:19:45] duspal | Hey Cloud, 1975 called. Its wants its server/dumb terminal system back. [11:19:48] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:19:49] lbjay | ksclarke++ [11:19:51] BigD | bmljenny: no plan yet. [11:19:52] anarchivist | ksclarke++ [11:19:53] atz | dchud: meh, it's a'ight [11:19:56] anarchivist | wormbase++ [11:19:56] erikhatcher | superlove! [11:19:57] highermath | BigD: it's done [11:20:02] BigD | highermath: thanks! [11:20:08] ---| ---> cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:20:09] rsinger | @dunno search <<NO WAY>> [11:20:11] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #542: "Let me see you get down! <<NO WAY>> Let me see..." [11:20:14] dchud | atz: your beard should have its own nick [11:20:19] rsinger | @dunno get 542 [11:20:20] zoia | rsinger: Dunno #542: "Let me see you get down! <<NO WAY>> Let me see you get down! <<OK>> D-O-W-N, let me see you get down!" (added by rsinger at 02:49 PM, September 15, 2009) [11:20:27] rsinger | ok, thought so [11:20:33] BillDueber | Up to an hour????? [11:20:36] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@156-56-58-39.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ccurry) [11:20:45] anna3lc | @karma anna3lc [11:20:45] zoia | anna3lc: Karma for "anna3lc" has been increased 21 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 20. [11:20:56] eby | @dunno add let me try turning this shiny knob [11:20:56] zoia | eby: The operation succeeded. Dunno #1130 added. [11:20:57] * tokeee is thinking about how to merge an auto-tuning approach with specific rules dictated by librarians (and possibly users). Worst of both worlds seems a likely outcome [11:21:00] ---| ---> charper [~Corey_Har@156-56-58-209.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:21:03] akorphan | @karma naps [11:21:03] zoia | akorphan: naps has neutral karma. [11:21:06] robcaSSon | tokeee++ [11:21:08] akorphan | naps++ [11:21:08] dchud | anybody interested in going to shapiro's for lunch in downtown indy after we finish [11:21:09] dchud | ? [11:21:12] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:21:17] lbjay | this talk is so relevant to some of the folks here. i wish i'd sent out a link to the live feed. [11:21:17] ---| ---> awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:21:23] MrDys | @ana autotune the librarians [11:21:24] zoia | MrDys: That burlier nauseation [11:21:24] anarchivist | dchud: maybe [11:21:27] BillDueber | tokeee: I'd love any references you can give me to the auto tuning stuff. [11:21:28] pjb1 | shapiros++ [11:21:28] dchud | @zoia shapiros is http://www.shapiros.com/menu.htm [11:21:29] zoia | dchud: paper cutter [11:21:30] ---| ---> ccurry [~ccurry@mobile-166-137-140-060.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [11:21:32] akorphan | zoia++ [11:21:37] dchud | zoia: bagel cutter? [11:21:37] zoia | dchud: your problem is either too many or not enough alcoholic beverages consumed [11:21:46] dchud | zoia: you understand me all too well [11:21:46] zoia | dchud: Messages may pop up onto your screen. Ignore these messages until you are prompted to Restart or Shutdown your PC [11:21:58] atz | it's interesting... when ppl expect to *determine* the #1 result of a search, we're not talking about search anymore, we're talking about retrieval. [11:22:01] ---| <<-- thrind [~rod@156-56-58-91.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:22:04] MrDys | @levenshtein freebase treebase [11:22:05] zoia | MrDys: The Levenshtein distance between "freebase" and "treebase" is 1. [11:22:19] dchud | anarchivist: cool, let's check in when we finish. [11:22:20] JodiS | zombies4lib [11:22:27] BillDueber | atz: Our systems need to be good at both. It's like a futon. [11:22:30] dchud | pjbl: interested? [11:22:38] akorphan | DRYAD... IN... DSPAAAAAAAACE! [11:22:50] ---| <<-- chelociraptor [9c383a53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.83] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:22:56] robcaSSon | s/good/bad/ [11:22:59] eby | jrochkind: random thing i remembered. we also built a single click thing in search results for staff to let them state which item should be near the top of the results that logs search terms, facets, etc so we have some data to test any relevency tweaks against [11:23:03] flyingzumwalt | @quote add ndushay Zap 'em back with super love! [11:23:04] zoia | flyingzumwalt: The operation succeeded. Quote #2520 added. [11:23:19] flyingzumwalt | @quote ndushay [11:23:20] zoia | flyingzumwalt: Yeah, I read your article on that in the Australasian Journal of Bone & Joint Medicine [11:23:24] pjb1 | dchud: i normally would be but i have to hit the road [11:23:30] was | eby: clever idea - did you get much feedback? [11:23:31] robcaSSon | eby++ # good idea [11:23:34] ---| <<-- tomkeays [~chatzilla@host-124-020.host.lemoyne.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:23:36] ---| <<-- iand [~iand@internal.talis.com] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:23:42] tokeee | BillDueber: Sorry, I am just thinking out loud. It does seem like we're gearing up for a lot of tweaking during the spring due to political changes, but up until now the policy has been to do the minimum amount neccessary [11:23:56] dchud | pjb1: ah well. it's basically on my way home so i will have to make the stop :) [11:23:58] eby | was: yeah. staff love giving feedback esp when it is simple to do [11:24:00] ---| <<-- kenirwin [9c383b12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.18] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:24:07] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [11:24:11] was | eby: good point [11:24:14] ---| <<-- fordmadox [~ford@156-56-58-136.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:24:14] akorphan | oof, I don't know whether I need coffee or beer, but I think I need one of them. Or both. [11:24:15] davidWalker | eby++ # I like that idea [11:24:19] atz | BillDueber: existing solution, google search ads. search is still search, ads are retrieved based on terms, in predetermined explicit order [11:24:21] BillDueber | tokeee: Well, once you do all the work, ping me and let me gain glory off the sweat of your brow. [11:24:33] tokeee | BillDueber: That sounds fair enough [11:24:38] decasm_ | akorphan: espresso stout [11:24:52] eby | stout++ [11:24:55] anarchivist | decasm_++ [11:24:56] mnotess | stout++ [11:24:56] eby | @love dark beers [11:24:58] akorphan | espresso++ [11:24:58] zoia | eby: The operation succeeded. eby loves dark beers. [11:25:06] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:25:07] anarchivist | @love beer [11:25:09] zoia | anarchivist: But anarchivist already loves beer! [11:25:10] lbjay | what is that service that lets you see what confs people are attending? lanyard? [11:25:15] anarchivist | lbjay: lanyrd [11:25:20] dchud | i should remember to get a rice krispie treat from that sugar-n-spice (?) place, my sister remembers them as legendary [11:25:25] ---| ---> mbklein [~mbklein@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [11:25:37] paulalbert | Anyone have a recommendation for an alternative to InMagic??? Our archival collection's contract is coming up with InMagic and we're looking for an easy-to-implement solution that can import our data (12k photos) from InMagic. Another requirement: we have some HIPAA-protected images/descriptions. [11:25:42] lbjay | anarchivist++ [11:25:46] gsf | i wonder in these submission processes if uploading first could improve things [11:25:47] pberry | mbklein: Dude, are you already at the airport? [11:25:47] mbklein | dlovins: You around? [11:25:49] bmljenny | dchud: I can vouch for those [11:25:50] anna3lc | i think i missed something. how is dspace related to dryad and treebase? [11:25:51] lbjay | weird that a google for lanyard couldn't pull that up [11:26:14] dchud | bmljenny: well, it is decided, then [11:26:14] MrDys | anarchivist: dryad is a dspace instance [11:26:16] flyingzumwalt | @love all y'all [11:26:16] eby | dchud: you know off hand if they are gf rice krispie [11:26:17] zoia | flyingzumwalt: The operation succeeded. flyingzumwalt loves all y'all. [11:26:18] pyott | dryad is a dspace instance [11:26:20] anarchivist | anna3lc: they're using dspace for their repository infrastrucutre [11:26:25] eby | dchud: gf being gluten free [11:26:37] akorphan | "gluten-free girlfriend" [11:26:39] mbklein | dlovins_: Naomi & Bess are eager to go a little early. [11:26:47] lbjay | @band add Gluten Free Girlfriend [11:26:47] zoia | lbjay: Band 'Gluten Free Girlfriend' added to list [11:27:02] ---| <<-- emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [11:27:03] anna3lc | MrDys, anarchivist dryad is their branded dspace site? [11:27:07] dchud | anarchivist (or whomever): my afternoon opened up a little so i could drop you off at the airport before/after shapiro's if you need [11:27:15] MrDys | anna3lc: it's the backend at the very least [11:27:20] anarchivist | dchud: i fly out tomorrow, so no need [11:27:22] lbjay | Emma doesn't like to work, see. [11:27:22] dchud | eby: i don't, but i would assume they're not [11:27:25] ---| <<-- ZJChatt [9c383a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.134] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:27:31] dchud | anarchivist: oh right [11:27:40] ---| ---> iand [~iand@internal.talis.com] has joined #code4lib [11:27:44] ---| ---> iand1 [~iand@internal.talis.com] has joined #code4lib [11:27:47] jwd | shapiro's++ [11:28:00] anna3lc | cool thx. [11:28:03] mbklein | If anyone is sitting near dlovins could you give him a poke? [11:28:05] ---| <--- iand [~iand@internal.talis.com] has left #code4lib () [11:28:07] rsinger | @tunes [11:28:09] zoia | rsinger: Mogwai : Mexican Grand Prix [11:28:10] anna3lc | gsf: that's a cool idea; upload first [11:28:10] dchud | yay bagit wooh [11:28:13] rsinger | edsu++ [11:28:24] eby | @eightball will anarchivist be sitting on tarmac instead tomorrow [11:28:24] zoia | eby: Yes! [11:28:32] lbjay | There's a character in Bleak House called Mr. Bagnet [11:28:44] flyingzumwalt | I'm aiming for a lazy lunch at Farm today. My shuttle doesn't leave til 4:30. Anyone want to join me? [11:28:47] pberry | Lanyrd.com [11:28:50] anarchivist | @ana bagna cauda [11:28:50] zoia | anarchivist: A bug Canada [11:28:51] robcaSSon | flyingzumwalt: me [11:28:55] robcaSSon | maybe [11:28:59] anarchivist | flyingzumwalt: .... i am torn [11:29:04] robcaSSon | was also thinking finch's [11:29:08] mnotess | @fight beer bacon [11:29:09] zoia | mnotess: beer: 82000000, bacon: 14200000 [11:29:13] anarchivist | robcaSSon: want to do finch's for dinner? [11:29:13] robcaSSon | or something else...someone decide for me [11:29:15] jrochkind | eby: that's pretty neat actually. then do you build automated tests like ndushay's out of it too? [11:29:17] pberry | flyingzumwalt: I'm on that shuttle, sounds good [11:29:18] dchud | anarchivst, flyingzumalt: I TEMPT YOU WITH HOT PASTRAMI [11:29:23] MrDys | robcaSSon: go to finch's [11:29:28] decasm_ | flyingzumwalt: don't trust robcaSSon - he'll switch restaurants 3 times [11:29:31] robcaSSon | anarchivist: finch's for dinner then [11:29:32] eby | jrochkind: that's the plan, haven't gotten to that point. been building the data set [11:29:33] flyingzumwalt | i'd do finch's too. awead recommended both. [11:29:35] akorphan | @rate "django reinhardt" "django haystack" [11:29:36] anarchivist | robcaSSon: finch's, dinner, motherhubbard [11:29:37] bmljenny | Folks leaving later today: Kinsey gallery open 2-4. Bow chicka bow wow [11:29:38] robcaSSon | decasm++ # lol [11:29:40] zoia | akorphan: django reinhardt: 9.9; django haystack: ?. django reinhardt rocks! [11:29:43] * jtgorman is disappointed he didn't get to FARM, Finch, or Lennies... [11:29:44] ecorrado | 20minutetalks++ # so much better then 50 or 60 or 90 minutes [11:29:45] anarchivist | bmljenny++ [11:29:50] robcaSSon | anarchivist++ # for the decision [11:29:50] mnotess | @fight search browse [11:29:51] zoia | mnotess: search: 2510000000, browse: 857000000 [11:29:56] flyingzumwalt | decasm: duly noted. [11:29:56] MrDys | 90 minute talks sound interminable [11:30:00] pberry | Oddly enough, I'm pberry on lanyrd [11:30:03] helrond | dchud: are you coming back here after shapiro's? [11:30:05] julia_ | ecorrado: Amen. [11:30:19] jrochkind | eby: talk about test driven development! you could actually automate the generation of the tests -- staff clicks, tests get written, you get notified tests are failing, you fix until they pass. Until you run into staff demands that are impossible to fulfill of course, or mutually contradictory. [11:30:21] awead | Finch's is a little cheaper than FARM... [11:30:21] dchud | helrond: wasn't planning on it, no - heading due east after [11:30:25] anna3lc | nice pictures [11:30:47] BigD | i'm in for lunch [11:30:48] jrochkind | awead: Finch's can be expensive, but they have a few cheaper options. [11:30:51] decasm_ | dchud: you drove? how long? [11:30:57] helrond | dchud: k thx. [11:30:59] anarchivist | dchud: yeah, i don't want to take you out of your way - gonna go to farm w/ flyingzumwalt [11:31:02] ranti | Whoever said green and purple don't match is wrong. [11:31:08] dchud | ksclarke: interesting that you found you didn't need sword, thanks for explaining [11:31:11] * anna3lc loves the dryad logo [11:31:12] BillDueber | Who ran @scalia on his second point???? [11:31:23] dchud | decasm_: 11 hours, ~630 miles. [11:31:25] eby | jrochkind: yeah that's why it's good to have a larger data set. also helps regression, making sure we don't make results worse [11:31:28] flyingzumwalt | dchud: stay here. eat with us! [11:31:30] bmljenny | These slides are nice [11:31:40] decasm_ | dchud: damn [11:31:43] lbjay | @scalia the great thing about standards [11:31:43] zoia | lbjay: the great thing about 'standards' [11:31:47] pberry | flyingzumwalt: Where/when for meet up? [11:31:53] dchud | flyingzumwalt: guess i could always get shapiros to go for dinner on the road... [11:32:00] dchud | what's 'farm'? [11:32:07] awead | jrochkind: yes, true! [11:32:08] anarchivist | dchud: they provided the food for the reception [11:32:10] dchud | anarchivist: ah well. [11:32:10] robcaSSon | dchud: they catered the reception [11:32:20] flyingzumwalt | dchud: farm is the local/seasonal place that catered tuesday's reception [11:32:21] anna3lc | dchud: also they have pretty curtains [11:32:23] anarchivist | dchud: http://www.farm-bloomington.com/ [11:32:24] bmljenny | dchud: Restaurant downtown. Yummy [11:32:27] dchud | oh. that was good food, and i held back because we were going to zagrebs after [11:32:27] lbjay | pea_guacamole++ [11:32:36] anarchivist | @ana pea guacamole [11:32:36] zoia | anarchivist: Ago ace up lame [11:32:41] anarchivist | did mjgiarlo leave already? [11:32:45] bmljenny | dchud: Had the ribs last nice [11:32:46] robcaSSon | ksclarke++ [11:32:47] mbklein | And didn't they cater the reception? [11:32:47] dchud | farmgoers: when are you heading out? [11:32:52] dchud | i mean, to eat at farm [11:32:57] anna3lc | mbklein++ lol [11:32:59] BillDueber | Is there much OAI-ORE out in the wild? [11:33:01] jtgorman | dchud: on kirkwood [11:33:11] anarchivist | dchud: i'd be up right after presentations are over [11:33:11] flyingzumwalt | I figure give everyone time to check out after closing then meet in the lobby [11:33:12] jtgorman | dchud: few blocks east of the gates [11:33:17] MrDys | BillDueber: some, not much [11:33:19] ---| ---> pbinkley [~pbinkley@142.244.35.114] has joined #code4lib [11:33:26] anarchivist | flyingzumwalt: sounds good [11:33:35] BillDueber | jtgorman: West. West of the gates [11:33:37] robcaSSon | BigD: you 'farming' as well? [11:33:37] jtgorman | menu looked good when walked by them, didn't realize they did the reception [11:33:46] jtgorman | BillDueber: errr, right, west [11:33:53] pberry | We can leave our bags at the front desk I hope [11:33:58] MrDys | pberry: you can [11:34:03] pberry | Hooray [11:34:08] flyingzumwalt | wrap up ends at "12:15". Meet in the lobby at 12:45? [11:34:11] lbjay | this_talk++ [11:34:18] eby | jrochkind: i'm guessing half of what we'll find is that the data needed to make it relevant is missing [11:34:19] dchud | flyingzumwalt, anarchivist, et al.: if you'll have me, i'm in! [11:34:27] bmljenny | danwho: Shouldnt you be making a tote bag joke right about now? [11:34:28] anarchivist | dchud: yes, please join us! [11:34:28] charper | flyingzumwalt: et al, think I might want to join you all for FARM, but I might have to rush back - shuttle at 2:30. [11:34:29] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [11:34:32] gluejar | shouldn't the doi: in his urls go away? [11:34:35] BigD | robcaSSon: why, so you can offer to drive, then pull out, then give me yer car, then make me pay $20 to get it out? [11:34:44] charper | if you all don't mind another hanger on [11:34:45] MrDys | robcaSSon++ [11:34:45] ---| <<-- dlacy [~dlacy@156-56-58-87.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:34:49] BigD | robcaSSon: OR yeah, sounds good! ;) [11:34:51] robcaSSon | robcaSSon-- # what an asshole [11:34:55] ---| <<-- webczarina_ [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:34:56] jrochkind | flyingzumwalt: wait, there are fram lunch plans? [11:34:57] jrochkind | farm [11:34:57] * robcaSSon snorts [11:34:58] dchud | charper: if your shuttle isn't already booked, i can drop you at the airport [11:35:01] anarchivist | robcaSSon-- [11:35:05] flyingzumwalt | dchud charper et al sounds great. open invite [11:35:09] helrond | @choose bagnet or skynet [11:35:09] zoia | helrond: LEAVE SARAH PALIN'S CHILDREN ALONE! [11:35:13] dchud | flyingzumwalt: cool thx [11:35:22] anna3lc | ksclarke++ i am going to have to look at this later because my brain is so ded [11:35:23] helrond | zoia++ [11:35:24] flyingzumwalt | jrochkind. yep. leaving from the lobby at 12:45 [11:35:24] cordmata | I'm in for a Farm lunch as well if there is capacity [11:35:24] charper | dchud: shuttle is booked, but thx for the offer [11:35:28] BillDueber | METS: It's whatever the hell you wanti it to be. [11:35:37] bmljenny | I didn't see any cake [11:35:43] jrochkind | flyingzumwalt: sweet, i might try to join [11:35:48] ---| ---> tomkeays [~chatzilla@host-124-020.host.lemoyne.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:35:52] anarchivist | @hate mets [11:35:52] zoia | anarchivist: But anarchivist already hates mets! [11:35:54] duspal | portal++ [11:35:57] robcaSSon | ksclarke++ [11:36:08] yo_bj | robcaSSon -- [11:36:16] ---| ---> webczarina [9c383b34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.52] has joined #code4lib [11:36:21] jrochkind | you hate The Mets? [11:36:27] atz | is that the first mercurial repo of the conf? [11:36:36] decasm_ | jrochkind: no, The Met [11:36:37] ranti | ksclarke++ [11:36:38] lbjay | ksclarke++ [11:36:38] dchud | charper: cool [11:36:41] ---| ---> jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:36:42] ---| <<-- emcrens [~eric@wsip-174-79-203-100.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit (Quit: emcrens has no reason) [11:36:43] robcaSSon | yo_bj++ # i'll remember that [11:36:47] dchud | charper: i still haven't heard about your last night in tokyo yet :( [11:36:48] BillDueber | ksclarke++ [11:36:48] pjb1 | ny_mets-- [11:36:53] ---| <<-- nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:36:55] anarchivist | @sing elton john : bennie and the jets [11:36:56] zoia | You're gonna hear electric music / Solid walls of sound / Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet / But they're so spaced out, Bennie and the Jets [11:37:10] ---| ---> nabeta [~nabeta@156-56-58-125.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:37:13] pberry | I'm already working on my proposal for 2012: How I learned to stop worrying and love ContentDM 6 [11:37:17] rsinger | @who is down? [11:37:17] zoia | chumpanzee is down. [11:37:19] robcaSSon | BOB [11:37:23] MrDys | @scalia [sing elton john : bennie and the jets] [11:37:24] zoia | You're gonna hear electric music / Solid 'walls' of sound / Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet / But they're so spaced out, Bennie and the Jets [11:37:26] ---| ---> ian___ [~ian@156-56-58-140.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:37:34] BillDueber | You know, I read it in a magaZEE-EEEEEEEEEN [11:37:35] ---| <<-- jeanrri [9c383a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.92] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:37:35] akorphan | tablets [11:37:36] ---| <<-- pyott [9c383a3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.58] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:37:38] atz | nevermind.... dryad is svn (not hg) [11:37:39] akorphan | lots of tablets. [11:37:44] rjhoyle | pberry, you think you'll see it in 2012? [11:37:46] charper | dchud: oh yeah. Convo was so good otherwise last night that it didn't come up. [11:37:47] eefcee_ | organizers++ [11:37:48] lbjay | iu++ [11:37:52] eefcee_ | iu++ [11:37:52] ranti | tablets overload [11:37:53] * davidWalker claps [11:37:54] eby | @hussein gluejar [11:37:54] zoia | eby: Injure lush sage [11:37:56] ---| <--- riehlemt [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:38:00] charper | dchud: if not over lunch, then some other time I guess. [11:38:01] eefcee_ | live_stream++ [11:38:01] MrDys | @sing outkast : B.O.B. [11:38:02] flyingzumwalt | gulp [11:38:02] zoia | MrDys: No lyrics found for B.O.B. by outkast [11:38:03] rsinger | party's over? [11:38:04] ---| ---> jaf_ [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:38:04] lbjay | shoutout count: 1 [11:38:04] anna3lc | high bar on both counts [11:38:05] dchud | charper: i know right? thanks for joining us! [11:38:08] ---| <<-- jaf [~jaf@156-56-58-239.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:38:08] ---| User: *** jaf_ is now known as jaf [11:38:12] * robcaSSon is turned on [11:38:17] pberry | rjhoyle: Sure... [11:38:28] atz | @sing Outkast: 808 [11:38:29] jtgorman | wow, she looks good for that age [11:38:29] zoia | atz: No lyrics found for 808 by Outkast [11:38:35] escowles | my grandmother has a newer iphone than i have [11:38:37] eefcee_ | ipad++ [11:38:46] akorphan | tired_nondominant_arm-- [11:38:50] lbjay | 92? wha? [11:38:55] pbinkley | i remember when people made points by showing their 2-year-old children [11:38:58] ---| ---> riehlemt [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:39:00] eby | code4grandmothers++ [11:39:02] flyingzumwalt | @sing janelle monae [11:39:03] zoia | Me lost too. / Sorry I'm in a maze, / No words due... / Soar in my dreams, [11:39:14] ranti | eby++ [11:39:15] flyingzumwalt | code4grandmothers++ [11:39:23] atz | I gave my reference librarian mom a kindle for xmas... need to check if she's actually used it [11:39:25] BillDueber | Books: owning++ renting-- [11:39:34] ---| <<-- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [11:39:49] akorphan | owning++ 'owning'_an_access_license_for_cointent-- [11:39:57] MrDys | hard_numbers++ [11:40:03] BillDueber | And it's woth pointing out that with ebooks, $1B revenue is pretty damn close to $1B profit [11:40:07] ---| <--- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:40:11] bmljenny | How many ebooks do you have on the device in front of you right now? [11:40:12] dchud | @sing moxy fruvous : my baby loves a bunch of authors [11:40:12] BillDueber | akorphan++ # much better [11:40:12] zoia | dchud: No lyrics found for my baby loves a bunch of authors by moxy fruvous [11:40:31] anarchivist | @sing people under the stairs : 43 labels i like [11:40:32] zoia | anarchivist: No lyrics found for 43 labels i like by people under the stairs [11:40:33] tbw | x [11:40:37] julia_ | moxy_fruvous++ #never heard of anybody who didn't go to college with me who knew about them. [11:40:38] dchud | @sing talking heads : the book i read [11:40:39] zoia | I'm tipping over backwards / I'm so ambitious / I'm looking back I'm / Running a race and you're the book I read so [11:40:40] ---| <<-- dlovins_ [~dlovins@conference/code4lib/x-bwxixvcguwykosda] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:40:41] pberry | Every book ever written delivered anywhere anytime. Damn you, Qwest! You promised I could ride the light. [11:40:41] ---| ---> maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:40:43] eby | about 40ish [11:40:55] akorphan | who doesn't know about moxy fruvous? [11:40:56] lbjay | purty [11:40:57] ---| ---> petercline [~peterclin@rrcs-74-219-71-20.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [11:40:59] dchud | julia_: you are amongst friends [11:41:06] ---| <<-- tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:41:10] escowles | bmljenny: 50+ [11:41:19] flyingzumwalt | britannia++ [11:41:20] * jrochkind is not sure why people voted for this presentation [11:41:23] gsf | @damlev england ireland [11:41:24] zoia | gsf: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "england" and "ireland" is 3. [11:41:26] ---| <<-- petercline [~peterclin@rrcs-74-219-71-20.central.biz.rr.com] has quit (Client Quit) [11:41:27] erikhatcher | iu++ [11:41:31] ian___ | I love tinity library, [11:41:33] flyingzumwalt | trinitylibrary++ [11:41:35] escowles | bmljenny: plus the tubes of course [11:41:37] ian___ | they have the book of kells there [11:41:41] akorphan | @sing Traditional : Jerusalem [11:41:42] zoia | akorphan: No lyrics found for Jerusalem by Traditional [11:41:42] ---| ---> tbw [9c383abe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.190] has joined #code4lib [11:41:44] lbjay | jrochkind: because he has interesting things to say frequently [11:41:44] dchud | obsolescence is relative [11:41:45] duspal | ireland++ [11:41:47] ---| ---> tholbroo [~tholbroo@hs72260.lib.sfu.ca] has joined #code4lib [11:41:51] ian___ | guinness++ [11:41:54] yo_bj | book_of_kells++ [11:41:54] erikhatcher | darn, i thought it'd be XML [11:41:55] ecorrado | @fight ireland england [11:41:56] zoia | ecorrado: ireland: 216000000, england: 194000000 [11:41:59] duspal | ian___++ [11:41:59] dchud | when the power goes out paper will still be a great technology [11:42:07] anna3lc | book_of_kells++ [11:42:11] gsf | nice to get high-level again -- it's like a closing keynote [11:42:13] ---| <<-- was [~wschneide@156-56-58-34.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:42:15] yo_bj | dchud++ [11:42:21] lbjay | gsf: zactly [11:42:22] atz | akorphan: the disaster is that DRM'd books that you "own", are completely dependent on the VENDOR and SERVERs you get them from. [11:42:23] ---| ---> mbklein_ [~mbklein@mobile-166-137-140-102.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [11:42:27] eby | dchud: except the fire that accompanies the power drop [11:42:27] bmljenny | Publishers dancing on the grave of first-sale doctrine [11:42:33] duspal | dchud: You can read in the dark? [11:42:34] akorphan | atz: exactly. [11:42:35] paulalbert | This presentation is good, but I would have expected multiple Celtic fonts. [11:42:35] ecorrado | growing_up-- [11:42:38] danwho | e-popupbooks need 3D glasses. kinda a drag. [11:42:39] atz | i.e., you cannot use your ownership to go to a different vendor [11:42:44] tokeee | dchud: Designing a civilization to survive technological stoneage is not really feasible [11:42:51] akorphan | duspal: Books are both an information recording medium AND a form of kindling. [11:42:51] dchud | duspal, eby: by the firelight [11:42:55] julia_ | bmljenny: Exactly. [11:42:57] atz | you cannot use your ownership to host the DRM'd content yourself. [11:42:58] akorphan | @damlev kindle kindling [11:42:58] zoia | akorphan: The Damerau-Levenshtein distance between "kindle" and "kindling" is 3. [11:42:59] lbjay | shoutout count: 2 [11:43:01] ranti | danwho++ # lol [11:43:02] atz | you own basically jack [11:43:04] gsf | it's as if we're surfacing from the depths of code4lib [11:43:06] ---| ---> rickj1 [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:43:06] ian___ | vallum is hard to burn :( [11:43:09] dchud | tokeee: that's the trick - we don't have to, it already is [11:43:10] ian___ | vellum [11:43:11] pberry | Libraries are not just for dead tree storage. Right? [11:43:13] jaf | hell, all we need are persistent identifiers and all will be fine [11:43:16] escowles | atz: unless the drm is broken and you can convert to whatever format *cough* kindle * cough* [11:43:17] anarchivist | valium++ [11:43:17] lbjay | gsf++ [11:43:18] ---| <<-- rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:43:18] duspal | eby: You can read you book by the light of the burning books... [11:43:23] BillDueber | Libraries are quickly becoming places that do almost nothing but negotiate contracts iwth vendors for access [11:43:30] atz | escowles: oh? do tell. [11:43:34] BillDueber | hyperbole++ of course [11:43:36] robcaSSon | BillDueber: aka, wallets [11:43:36] rsinger | edsu: i am seriously digging this [11:43:37] ---| ---> dlovins1 [~dlovins@173-110-57-226.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #code4lib [11:43:39] dchud | looks like an academic press title [11:43:56] tokeee | dchud: I this we need to define what the words mean over a beer and a gin'n'tonic [11:44:03] bmljenny | In age of ebooks, libraries are the advocates again for the have-nots. In the tea party era, this is not a safe position. [11:44:04] pberry | Think he'll show a Laffer Curve? [11:44:05] gsf | lbjay: sounds like it's working for you remotely as well, which is awesome [11:44:06] ranti | BillDueber: in other words, as a broker [11:44:12] dchud | tokeee: that's a good idea [11:44:17] pjb1 | bmljenny++ [11:44:20] ---| <<-- dlovins [~dlovins@156-56-58-216.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [11:44:21] duspal | OOO Industrial Engineering and Optimzation Modeling! Taking me back to college [11:44:27] jtgorman | I've always wondered how many books end up selling mostly to libraries [11:44:28] dchud | pberry: trickle-down kindlenomics [11:44:35] akorphan | linear_programming++ [11:44:37] escowles | atz: http://boingboing.net/2011/01/15/howto-break-kindle-b.html # calibre++ [11:44:38] lbjay | gsf: it's pretty great. except for the people who keep tapping me on the shoulder. [11:44:44] julia_ | jtgorman: Probably the vast majority of them? [11:44:46] BillDueber | ranti: Yes, but with weirdnesses. For example, our customers (patrons) and the people that pay (legislatures, for many of us) aren't the same people and probably have conflicting goals. [11:44:47] pberry | Something D-O-O [11:44:55] ---| ---> birkin [~birkin@156-56-58-127.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:45:00] duspal | Wonder if he used Lindo to generate his optimization model.... [11:45:06] akorphan | "What D-O-O economics? Anyone? Anyone?" [11:45:13] jtgorman | julia_: yeah, I've just never seen actual percentages. Particularly though for academic works [11:45:22] ranti | BilDueber: indeed. [11:45:34] dchud | "this one's just as made up but the scales are different" [11:45:38] * lbjay prefers his slopes with a few moguls [11:45:38] pmurray | Disagree. Sharing also promotes sales because people taste/dabble with books that they may want. [11:45:41] atz | i expect by next year this time i'll be into it far enough to be presenting on libraries as DRM publishers [11:45:49] ian___ | when I worked for Springer I used to make books that cost about $180 [11:45:51] ---| <<-- mbklein [~mbklein@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:45:51] ---| User: *** mbklein_ is now known as mbklein [11:45:55] ---| <<-- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:45:57] ---| ---> awead1 [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:45:59] dchud | sounds like our budgets [11:46:06] ian___ | our data showed a long tail, we were still selling items published n the 1960s [11:46:06] anarchivist | gluejar++ [11:46:08] ---| <<-- asnagy [~Andrew@156-56-58-170.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: asnagy) [11:46:21] BillDueber | pmurray: Probably true for mass-market stuff; very unclear for more specialized stuff and research works [11:46:29] ---| <<-- rnanders [~rnanders@156-56-58-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: rnanders) [11:46:36] pmurray | BillDueber: Yes, good point. [11:46:39] tokeee | 0 < 0? [11:46:40] atz | escowles: thx [11:46:54] atz | tokeee: increase precision [11:46:56] BillDueber | Cost per circ is $4???? HOLY SHIT! [11:46:56] BigD | who is gonna pay $100 for a book? [11:47:03] akorphan | BigD: Libraries. [11:47:08] tokeee | 0.0 < 0.0? [11:47:10] BigD | BillDueber: fully loaded, that's not bad [11:47:12] ---| <<-- mbklein [~mbklein@mobile-166-137-140-102.mycingular.net] has quit (Client Quit) [11:47:13] BigD | akorphan: ah, gotcha [11:47:17] akorphan | tokeee: For large values of 0 [11:47:20] bmljenny | BigD: That's cheap for BML books [11:47:22] ecorrado | our librray has lots of +$100 books [11:47:35] anna3lc | gluejar++ [11:47:38] MrDys | good point [11:47:38] ---| <<-- ccurry [~ccurry@mobile-166-137-140-060.mycingular.net] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:47:42] * ecorrado doesn't buy too many of them with his puny collection development budget [11:47:49] yo_bj | BigD: $100 is relatively cheap [11:47:49] highermath | sibylschaefer: waiting for your contact info. Are you still planning to ride w/me? [11:47:51] duspal | I had a math textbook in college that was $135.00 [11:47:55] ---| <<-- chumpanzee [9c383ab0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.176] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:48:01] lbjay | shoutout count: 3 [11:48:03] duspal | Sold it back a yeear later for $5.00 [11:48:06] pberry | The wifi is invincible! [11:48:09] anna3lc | search for libraries screwed [11:48:16] robcaSSon | eby: you see that talk? or hear any reactions? [11:48:24] erikhatcher | econ101++ [11:48:29] pberry | @google libraries screwed [11:48:30] zoia | pberry: Ebook economics: Are libraries screwed? « The Thingology Blog: <http://www.librarything.com/blogs/thingology/2009/10/ebook-economics-are-libraries-screwed/>; YouTube - Eli Neiburger at the LJ/SLJ eBook Summit: Libraries Are ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqAwj5ssU2c>; If Libraries are Screwed, so are the Rest of Us | Digital Book World: <http://www.digitalbookworld.com/2010/if-libraries-are-screwed/>; Are (2 more messages) [11:48:31] * tokeee is just pondering that the core problem here seems to be the old "data are not physical" [11:48:34] bmljenny | anna3lc: Be sure to leave safe search on! [11:48:37] akorphan | The cost of duplicating e-books for PUBLISHERS is 0. But the cost of "duplicating" (i.e., buying duplicate copies) for the LIBRARIES is often higher. Depedning on licensing and all that crap. Since publishers are trying to monetize items on a per-item basis [11:48:42] eby | robcaSSon: yeah reactions were decent. gluejar has a post with some links to writeups [11:48:49] anna3lc | bmljenny++ [11:48:49] ranti | gluejar++ elineiburger++ [11:48:57] eby | robcaSSon: overdrive was represented in same session [11:49:03] gsf | akorphan: i think that's what he's getting to [11:49:05] ---| <<-- Schmiecs [8cb695c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.149.199] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:49:07] bmljenny | Overdrive-- [11:49:08] * davidWalker puts his head in the sand [11:49:09] robcaSSon | aadl++ # need to watch that [11:49:09] atz | that's exactly what we do now: ignore it [11:49:15] atz | overdrive-- [11:49:19] akorphan | gsf: Ah yes, here we are--pretend it's print. [11:49:24] jtgorman | heh, love that phrase "PIP" [11:49:25] * tokeee will shut up now [11:49:29] pberry | head_in_sand-- [11:49:30] * BigD calculates his earliest retirement date [11:49:30] lbjay | mmmmmm.... elinei bugers [11:49:32] BigD | shit. [11:49:34] BillDueber | aadl++ # man, I love those folks [11:49:43] lbjay | s/bugers/burgers/ [11:49:46] robcaSSon | BigD++ [11:49:49] tbw | EGreat benefits of little distruption!! [11:49:49] bmljenny | BigD: Tell me about it [11:49:49] pmurray | BigD++ [11:49:50] yo_bj | pip-- [11:50:01] sibylschaefer | highermath just sent! [11:50:05] eby | freegle-- #PIP [11:50:05] jaf | ehellman++ [11:50:13] escowles | @fight PretendItsPrint PictureInPicture [11:50:14] * robcaSSon will drive...no i won't....yes i will [11:50:14] zoia | escowles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [11:50:17] akorphan | gluejar++ [11:50:21] BillDueber | mello_n++ [11:50:28] ian___ | I onluy got a driving licence two years ago :/ [11:50:29] highermath | sibylschaefer: thanks! [11:50:30] pmurray | Don't wan't publishers to drive either. [11:50:37] jtgorman | gluejar++ [11:50:44] lbjay | the guy who puts gas in my tank looks like robcaSSon [11:50:45] robcaSSon | laptop_battery-- [11:50:53] * BillDueber loves the smell of bitterness in the morning [11:50:54] akorphan | Wait, I know those guys! [11:50:58] robcaSSon | gluejar++ [11:51:04] gsf | guys and other people [11:51:05] duspal | As a groupo, we look menacing [11:51:05] lbjay | is that one shoutout? or 40? [11:51:08] atz | oh crap. we're screwed [11:51:09] danwho | thats a good looking group of people [11:51:10] pmurray | beer_tour++ [11:51:12] eby | @blame those guys [11:51:12] anna3lc | lbjay++ [11:51:12] zoia | eby: ladies & gentlemen, our current crisis has its roots in those guys [11:51:12] jtgorman | wait, I didn't see it long enough to recognize the location [11:51:13] anarchivist | @ana beer datacenter [11:51:13] duspal | atz++ [11:51:13] escowles | us_guys++ [11:51:14] zoia | anarchivist: Debate recanter [11:51:17] ---| <<-- mcritchlow [~MatthewCr@156-56-58-218.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: mcritchlow) [11:51:18] ---| <<-- roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:51:18] jtgorman | was that the brewery? [11:51:24] yo_bj | atz++ [11:51:28] lbjay | shoutout count: 253 [11:51:29] anarchivist | jtgorman: from last year [11:51:34] pbinkley | looked like Tahrir Square [11:51:34] BillDueber | danwho: Good looking? Wait, how much beer did you drink??????? [11:51:43] jtgorman | anarchivist: ah, ok [11:51:52] danwho | BillDueber apparently A LOT [11:51:55] anna3lc | it's at least an awesome-looking group of people [11:52:04] dchud | BUT WE KNOW BEER [11:52:06] ecorrado | embedded code4libers! [11:52:09] anarchivist | dchud++ [11:52:14] flyingzumwalt | this is a pretty inspiring chart [11:52:15] awead1 | dchud++ [11:52:16] ian___ | beer++ [11:52:18] BillDueber | <cough>jrochkind</cough> [11:52:19] akorphan | if you're not just learning, you're doing it wrong. [11:52:20] danwho | dchud++ [11:52:20] gsf | too modest to admit we're not good coders? [11:52:21] yo_bj | code4lib sleeper cells/ [11:52:25] dchud | beer++ [11:52:27] BigD | next year, more beer! [11:52:28] atz | i'm not sure what qualifies as non-self-trained software developer. i'd be skeptical of such a person. [11:52:30] * BillDueber is a decimal coder [11:52:31] awead1 | I am not a super coder [11:52:34] tbw | fractional coders [11:52:37] BigD | cuz i haven't been drunk enuf [11:52:38] ---| User: *** awead1 is now known as awead [11:52:40] lbjay | gluejar++ # we love to hear about us [11:52:43] erikhatcher | funny thing about "free"..... [11:52:45] bmljenny | Fractious coders maybe [11:52:46] gsf | sharing_toys++ [11:52:46] akorphan | beer++ [11:52:47] akorphan | toys++ [11:52:47] dchud | he's reading! [11:52:48] jrochkind | and sharing beer [11:52:51] pberry | I'm fractional, only half of what i do is any good [11:52:55] tbw | fractual coders [11:53:00] davidWalker | pberry++ [11:53:02] ian___ | I mainly feel fictional [11:53:03] robcaSSon | gluejar++ # i needed a bit of a pep talk [11:53:07] jrochkind | i am skeptical that a little code goes a long way. a little code can be enough rope to hang yourself. [11:53:11] gsf | pberry: that's a pretty good ratio [11:53:14] akorphan | fractal coders? [11:53:15] charper | fractional coders write fractured code (at least in my case) [11:53:18] MrDys | jrochkind: there's downsides to everything [11:53:21] flyingzumwalt | the spread of those red dots explains a lot of why I think code4lib is so important [11:53:22] anarchivist | charper++ [11:53:22] ---| <<-- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:53:23] ranti | like: "a little code goes a long way" [11:53:24] jrochkind | MrDys: true enough [11:53:27] BillDueber | One road didn't diverge in a woods, so ...er...I took it. [11:53:32] atz | jrochkind: a littel *shared* code can go a long way [11:53:32] bmljenny | These two coders walk into a library... [11:53:33] akorphan | fractal coders write recursive code. [11:53:42] akorphan | "fractal coders do it recursively." [11:53:53] ranti | bmljenny++ [11:53:57] BigD | i can replace you with a small perl script [11:54:03] danwho | bmljenny ...and immediately check for an open network [11:54:12] gsf | BigD++ i believe it [11:54:12] ---| <<-- rjw [~rjw@internal.talis.com] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:54:17] jtgorman | on the inverse, they don't recognize sometimes when a little code won't cut it...or what costs $$ [11:54:17] ranti | danwho++ [11:54:20] dchud | that idea comes from 3M, not google [11:54:21] eefcee_ | 25%? [11:54:22] charper | 20_precent_time++ [11:54:22] BigD | danwho: and the bathrooms and printers [11:54:23] jtgorman | ie hard drives [11:54:30] ian___ | 20% is hard to make work [11:54:31] pberry | Not entirely "whatever" [11:54:31] BillDueber | dchud++ 3M++ [11:54:33] dchud | more fractional time? [11:54:34] tokeee | Ahhh... Google time. We actually do this [11:54:35] akorphan | pie++ [11:54:36] flyingzumwalt | pie++ [11:54:38] escowles | pie++ [11:54:39] jrochkind | hooray for pies [11:54:40] akorphan | 20% < 25% [11:54:40] jtgorman | we finally got 5 to 10 % research time..... [11:54:41] BigD | mmmmmmmpie! [11:54:42] yo_bj | pie++ [11:54:42] jtgorman | :P [11:54:43] atz | we did 20% time at LibLime, back when times were good [11:54:43] robcaSSon | yo_bj++ pie++ [11:54:45] lbjay | ian___: how does google make it work? [11:54:46] flyingzumwalt | @love pie [11:54:47] bmljenny | danwho: Heh. Dont let viss in the building [11:54:48] zoia | flyingzumwalt: The operation succeeded. flyingzumwalt loves pie. [11:54:49] awead | pie++ [11:54:52] ian___ | bi-monthly hack days also work really well [11:54:53] ---| ---> mtsmr [3b8ff4e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.143.244.231] has joined #code4lib [11:54:53] anna3lc | yo_bj++ QR pie [11:54:57] pberry | Projects are still approved and reviewed regularly inside google [11:54:57] duspal | Lockheed Martin tried to implement this once. It was an absolute disaster [11:54:58] mtomko | there's not much I wouldn't do for 20% time. [11:54:59] ranti | yo_bj++ #pie [11:54:59] dchud | it's a giant face! [11:54:59] mtomko | ugh. [11:55:01] dileshni | yo_bj++ [11:55:02] awead | @karma pie [11:55:02] jtgorman | better than nothing, but hard to block out useful chunks [11:55:02] zoia | awead: Karma for "pie" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6. [11:55:04] gsf | atz: before the days of darkness descended upon us all [11:55:13] ---| ---> knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:55:19] atz | skunkworks++ [11:55:22] ecorrado | from talking to the Google people i know, at least for lower level developers it is a myth this 20% time.... [11:55:25] pberry | pie++ [11:55:28] ---| ---> roguejuly [~roguejuly@dhcp64-134-174-239.safa.lax.wayport.net] has joined #code4lib [11:55:36] ---| <<-- julia_ [84a1d88e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.161.216.142] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:55:37] yo_bj | @karma pie [11:55:37] zoia | yo_bj: Karma for "pie" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. [11:55:40] ecorrado | yea, they can do it 20% of the time, but they get t work 80 hours a week [11:55:42] flyingzumwalt | ecorrado: I've heard similar [11:55:44] * anna3lc thought he was going to sell his collaborative book rights purchasing thing [11:55:48] akorphan | @sing Decemberists : July, July [11:55:50] zoia | The water rolls down the drain / Oh, what a lonely thing / LyricsIn a lonely drain / July, July, July [11:55:52] jtgorman | ecorrado: I also have heard it's changed over the years [11:55:53] atz | ecorrado: exactly. same idea at LL. [11:56:03] bmljenny | True. All our best yelp reviews are about study space [11:56:10] decasm_ | the information is a lie [11:56:10] gsf | anna3lc: think he'll mention it? [11:56:13] flyingzumwalt | ecorrado: or "sure. 20% time, but spend it on something we already want" [11:56:18] lbjay | @ana room full of royts [11:56:18] zoia | lbjay: Floor stormy foul [11:56:22] akorphan | IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE! IT'S PEOPLE! [11:56:23] tokeee | Some of our best projects started as such 20%-time things [11:56:24] anna3lc | gsf: i will happily clap for it if he does. [11:56:25] bmljenny | Our bad yelp reviews are about arrogant med students [11:56:30] ---| <<-- mtsmr [3b8ff4e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.143.244.231] has quit (Client Quit) [11:56:36] escowles | bmljenny: i didn't know yelp rated libraries! [11:56:49] flyingzumwalt | soylent_green+- [11:56:54] eby | @blame med students [11:56:54] zoia | eby: it's like med students 2: electric boogaloo [11:56:56] duspal | Heres how it works: You have to do all the same amount of work (aka were not allocating the 20% to you). But you have to give us white papers which wil generate us money. Its now part of your performance review [11:56:56] BillDueber | underground_library_shoutout++ [11:57:00] highermath | arrogant_med_students++ [11:57:02] anna3lc | chicago_underground_library++ [11:57:17] knickum | @sing electric avenue [11:57:18] pberry | Oh yeah, ebooks [11:57:27] zoia | knickum: No songs found by electric avenue [11:57:32] BillDueber | been sniffing the gluejar [11:57:34] flyingzumwalt | mmm. glue. [11:57:39] ---| <<-- ian___ [~ian@156-56-58-140.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ian___) [11:57:40] decasm_ | dear god i hope that was actual glue [11:57:42] robcaSSon | gluejar++ [11:57:42] ---| ---> cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:57:44] jtgorman | my only friend...the end.. [11:57:45] lbjay | the_end-- [11:57:51] ranti | gluejar++ [11:57:54] duspal | code4lib++ [11:57:56] bmljenny | escowles: http://www.yelp.com/biz/ucsd-biomedical-library-la-jolla [11:57:57] BigD | decasm++ [11:57:58] knickum | @sing eddy grant [11:58:01] zoia | You invite me to a war partyMe no wanna goEverybody seem to be inviting me toA war party, me no wanna goHeard about the last oneSo thanks but no thank youYou killed off all the IndiansAnd you killed off all the slavesBut not quiteSo you killed off the remainsYou a look for me, and I'm looking for youI can't believe what they say bout you is trueThat you're a bad star just like PharoahYou killed the children just like (3 more messages) [11:58:03] mnotess | streaming_people++ [11:58:03] eefcee_ | live_stream++ [11:58:06] pbinkley | you're the streaming person [11:58:06] BigD | it's almost over! [11:58:08] ---| <<-- kestlund [~kestlund@156-56-58-167.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: kestlund) [11:58:08] eefcee_ | code4lib++ [11:58:10] gsf | gluejar++ [11:58:11] davidWalker | live_stream++ [11:58:12] anna3lc | od talk [11:58:12] charper | code4lib++ [11:58:13] BigD | my liver can grow back! [11:58:14] anna3lc | good talk [11:58:16] atz | gluejar_sniffer [11:58:16] yo_bj | bye irc. I'll miss you! [11:58:20] ---| <<-- demiankatz [9c383aac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.172] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:58:20] ---| <<-- tseneca [9c383a50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.80] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:58:22] ---| <<-- dbucknum [8c93f3be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.147.243.190] has quit () [11:58:22] ---| <<-- scotthanrath [~scotthanr@156-56-58-85.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: scotthanrath) [11:58:23] charper | Thanks so much to all of you for a hell of a conference. [11:58:24] davidWalker | closin' announcements [11:58:25] freqlurker | take care all! [11:58:28] davidWalker | ecorrado++ [11:58:30] jstroop | bye, thanks IU! [11:58:31] ---| User: *** gugek is now known as gugek_away [11:58:31] eefcee_ | stream the food! [11:58:34] jtgorman | safe travels all [11:58:35] KingNightWolf | later skatters [11:58:37] anarchivist | mcdonald++ [11:58:37] ---| <--- jstroop [~jstroop@156-56-59-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:58:38] ---| <<-- raynerj [9c383b3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.58] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:58:39] ---| <<-- tnlibrarian [9c383a3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.63] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:58:39] ---| <--- maxxkrakoa [~maxxkrako@156-56-58-37.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:58:40] anna3lc | everybody++ [11:58:41] ---| <<-- cwlown [~Adium@156-56-58-66.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:58:41] lbjay | not so sure about that [11:58:42] pberry | See the farm people in the lobby soon [11:58:44] ---| <<-- freqlurker [9c383a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.141] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:58:47] mnotess | seattle++ [11:58:51] highermath | and so we bed adieu to beautiful Bloomington. Hellllooo Seatle [11:58:51] ---| <<-- BillDueber [~dueberb@156-56-58-82.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: BillDueber) [11:58:52] pmurray | snack_bags++ [11:58:54] ---| <<-- bohyunkim [~chatzilla@156-56-58-75.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914120618]) [11:58:54] robcaSSon | annjanette++ [11:58:54] davidWalker | seattle++ [11:59:00] BigD | yay farm! [11:59:05] ---| <<-- jerms_ [9c383b6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.108] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:59:05] ejk | Do they have a fat internet pipe in seattle? [11:59:08] yo_bj | train_ride_to_seattle++ [11:59:12] lbjay | oh! that's mcdonald. [11:59:13] ranti | #totebag++ [11:59:14] bmljenny | BigD: Get the ribs. Freak [11:59:16] ---| <<-- KingNightWolf [~shwaish@156-56-59-57.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: KingNightWolf) [11:59:16] eby | full of beer [11:59:17] ---| <--- banu1 [~blakshmi@156-56-58-74.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:59:18] ---| <<-- jaron [~jason@156-56-58-147.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:59:19] ---| <<-- bertrama [9c383b46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.70] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:59:21] anarchivist | ejk: they got lots o pipes. [11:59:24] lbjay | mcdonald++ [11:59:26] BigD | bmljenny: u joining us? [11:59:28] decasm_ | anarchivist: tubes [11:59:31] ---| ---> emorgan [~emorgan@156-56-58-240.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:59:34] ejk | @rate fat_pipe phat_pipe [11:59:35] awead | bye, everybody... stop by and see me if you're ever in Cleveland [11:59:36] dchud | hey everybody see you online, stop by DC and say hi anytime! [11:59:38] zoia | ejk: fat pipe: 6.7; phat pipe: 10.0. phat pipe rocks! [11:59:38] ---| <<-- rickj1 [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:59:41] ---| <--- cordmata [~cordmata@156-56-58-114.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:59:41] ---| ---> rickj [~rjohns14@156-56-58-40.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:59:42] ---| <<-- mdoran [9c383a4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.79] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [11:59:43] ---| <--- awead [~awead@156-56-58-186.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:59:50] cbeer | dchud: did you get any takers for shapiro's? [11:59:51] ---| <--- bthiell [9c383b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.59.24] has left #code4lib () [11:59:51] BigD | you can stay at dchud's house [11:59:53] ---| <<-- reeset [~chatzilla@156-56-59-60.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [11:59:53] ---| <--- tdonohue [~Adium@156-56-59-43.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [11:59:54] bmljenny | BigD: no but up for dinner/drinks [11:59:55] davidWalker | BigD++ [11:59:56] ejk | Bravo IU [12:00:02] ejk | live_stream++ [12:00:02] atz | lunch? [12:00:04] ejk | live_stream++ [12:00:05] ejk | live_stream++ [12:00:05] jrochkind | thanks robert! [12:00:06] riehlemt | code4lib++ [12:00:09] eefcee_ | iu++ [12:00:11] robcaSSon | mcdonald++ [12:00:13] highermath | Robert and ecorrado look like Anjanette' bodyguards [12:00:17] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [~rob@156-56-58-116.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: robcaSSon) [12:00:17] pberry | Check out of your room by 1! [12:00:21] charper | iu++ #great job w/ the hosting! [12:00:23] ranti | annjanette++ [12:00:24] babs | live_stream++ [12:00:24] BigD | everyone photo bomb the livestream on the way out [12:00:25] cazzerson | code4lib++ # later y'all [12:00:25] bmljenny | IU++ [12:00:25] atz | BUT I'M NOT DONE YET!@ [12:00:27] ranti | mcdonald++ [12:00:28] eefcee_ | live_stream++ [12:00:30] ---| <--- riehlemt [~mattriehl@156-56-59-68.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [12:00:31] highermath | iu++ [12:00:31] anarchivist | flyingzumwalt, BigD, robcaSSon, dchud: what time to meet to go to farm? [12:00:37] eefcee_ | irc++ [12:00:43] danwho | hoosiers++ [12:00:44] anarchivist | flyingzumwalt, BigD, robcaSSon, dchud: meet by 12:30 in hotel lobby? [12:00:45] ---| <<-- akorphan [9c383a36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.58.54] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:00:47] flyingzumwalt | anarchivist: 12:45 at the lobby [12:00:50] BigD | ana 12:30? [12:00:53] Baroquem | Seattle? Yet another technology I'm not familiar with. [12:00:55] BigD | anarchivist: 1230 good [12:01:01] anarchivist | flyingzumwalt: 1245 is perfect [12:01:05] mtomko | seattle has great food. it will be good to be back. [12:01:06] ---| <<-- ksclarke [~kevin@156-56-58-106.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:01:08] flyingzumwalt | actually, 12:30 sounds better [12:01:13] flyingzumwalt | some people have to leave at 2:30 [12:01:17] anarchivist | flyingzumwalt: 1230 it is then [12:01:20] pberry | flyingzumwalt: 12:45, Roger that [12:01:29] flyingzumwalt | pberry: 12:30 [12:01:31] jaf | is there room for one more going to the farm? 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[12:01:43] ejk | ibahn-- [12:01:54] dchud | cbeer: no, so i was going to go to farm now and shapiro's on the way out of town [12:01:58] ---| <<-- babs [9bf60207@gateway/web/freenode/ip.155.246.2.7] has quit (Quit: Page closed) [12:02:01] ---| <<-- cazzerson [~cazzerson@156-56-58-69.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: cazzerson) [12:02:04] anarchivist | seattle++ [12:02:06] ---| <--- knickum [~knickum@156-56-58-19.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #code4lib () [12:02:07] gsf | anj++ [12:02:08] ---| <<-- sibylschaefer [~sibylscha@156-56-58-112.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: sibylschaefer) [12:02:09] pberry | flyingzumwalt: 12:30, Roger that :) [12:02:09] ---| <<-- NoelDiaz [~NoelDiaz@156-56-59-72.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: NoelDiaz) [12:02:12] dchud | cbeer: interested in any or all of that? [12:02:16] ---| <<-- pmcgreen [~chatzilla@156-56-58-149.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203074432]) [12:02:19] ---| <<-- pberry [~pberry@156-56-59-14.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi) [12:02:20] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:02:21] BigD | thanks to you all for bringing beer! i was amazed! [12:02:23] MrDys | we. are. awesome. [12:02:24] eefcee_ | claps [12:02:27] flyingzumwalt | ok. meet in the lobby at 12:30. If people are still checking out, speak up and we can linger [12:02:33] cbeer | dchud: heading out right after this -- driving up to MI [12:02:44] davidWalker | streamn'++ [12:02:55] eefcee_ | live_stream++ [12:02:56] anarchivist | mcdonald++ [12:02:57] eefcee_ | iu++ [12:02:59] BigD | i bombed! 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[12:03:23] ---| <<-- jrochkind [nzyme@156-56-58-29.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jrochkind) [12:03:23] ---| <<-- jwd [~jwd@140-182-149-59.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: jwd) [12:03:25] ---| <<-- dchud [~dchud@156-56-58-133.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: dchud) [12:03:29] ---| <<-- ecorrado [~ecorrado@156-56-58-188.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: ecorrado) [12:03:31] duspal | And ZCREEEEEEEEE go the chairs [12:03:32] BigD | safe trip everypne! [12:03:33] ---| <<-- paulalbert [~paulalber@156-56-58-129.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: paulalbert) [12:03:40] ---| <<-- birkin [~birkin@156-56-58-127.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Quit: birkin) [12:03:40] duspal | Thanks all, see you next year [12:03:40] jbrinley | happy travels, everyone. feel free to stop by my place for lunch [12:03:41] ---| <<-- anarchivist [~anarchivi@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[12:06:33] atz | Y'er! 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(added by eby at 05:58 PM, September 25, 2006) [12:48:46] lbjay | @help karma [12:48:46] zoia | lbjay: (karma [<channel>] [<thing> ...]) -- Returns the karma of <text>. If <thing> is not given, returns the top three and bottom three karmas. If one <thing> is given, returns the details of its karma; if more than one <thing> is given, returns the total karma of each of the things. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. [12:48:54] lbjay | @list karma [12:48:54] zoia | lbjay: clear, dump, karma, karmawar, load, and most [12:49:03] lbjay | @help clear [12:49:03] zoia | lbjay: (clear [<channel>] <name>) -- Resets the karma of <name> to 0. [12:49:09] lbjay | @help dump [12:49:09] zoia | lbjay: (dump [<channel>] <filename>) -- Dumps the Karma database for <channel> to <filename> in the bot's data directory. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. [12:50:37] lbjay | @dump karma_2011-02-10.dump [12:50:38] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [12:50:58] lbjay | @clear * [12:50:59] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [12:51:13] lbjay | @most increased [12:51:13] zoia | lbjay: "mbklein": 519, "anarchivist": 444, "edsu": 443, "zoia": 383, "MrDys": 319, "mjgiarlo": 315, "rsinger": 282, "BillDueber": 277, "lbjay": 273, "dbs": 268, "robcaSSon": 226, "jrochkind": 215, "eby": 185, "sesuncedu": 130, "jtgorman": 121, "gsf": 120, "royt": 119, "ksclarke": 112, "BigD": 109, "jbrinley": 96, "bess": 89, "jeff": 88, "dchud": 85, "wickr": 84, and "ndushay": 75 [12:51:20] lbjay | hmm [12:51:54] ---| ---> ian___ [~ian@156-56-58-140.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:52:02] ---| <<-- ian___ [~ian@156-56-58-140.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [12:54:12] ---| <<-- gbilder [~gbilder@91.85.207.182] has quit (Quit: gbilder) [12:55:05] ---| <<-- JodiS [~jodi@pdpc/supporter/student/jodis] has quit (Quit: JodiS) [12:59:12] ---| <<-- hdl [~hdl@biblibre-breteuil.pck.nerim.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [12:59:26] lbjay | ahh, i think you have to create an empty dump and then use @load maybe [13:00:58] ---| ---> milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:05:15] ---| <<-- milkya [~milkya@156-56-58-97.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:06:51] ---| ---> jkeck [~Adium@171.66.81.149] has joined #code4lib [13:13:32] ---| ---> skome [~skome@WL-136.CINE.Libraries.Claremont.Edu] has joined #code4lib [13:16:23] ---| <<-- fresco [~fresco@london.office.mendeley.com] has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:17:31] ---| <<-- dlovins1 [~dlovins@173-110-57-226.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:20:20] eefcee_ | @karma dlf [13:20:20] zoia | eefcee_: Karma for "dlf" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.