--- Day changed Sun Feb 22 2009 [00:06:42] ---| <<-- ksclarke [n=ksclarke@adsl-146-185-186.clt.bellsouth.net] has quit ("Going where the weather suits my clothes") [00:10:25] ---| <--- cazzerson [n=cazzerso@cpe-071-070-218-191.nc.res.rr.com] has left #code4lib () [00:17:25] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Dempsey, Lorcan: Assisted thinking ..... and assisted reading [00:33:12] ---| ---> JodiS_ [n=jodi@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [00:42:05] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=jodi@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [00:54:10] ---| <<-- JodiS_ [n=jodi@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [04:54:31] ---| ---> danbri [n=danbri@77.167.54.81] has joined #code4lib [05:00:16] ---| ---> papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #code4lib [06:55:24] ---| <<-- royt [n=tennantr@adsl-67-116-255-215.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit () [07:07:27] ---| <<-- shoe [n=shoe@ip24-250-63-6.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [07:20:49] ---| ---> hghgd [n=lll@e178042101.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #code4lib [07:26:56] ---| ---> shoe [n=shoe@ip24-250-63-6.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [07:29:31] ---| ---> JodiS [n=jodi@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [07:36:10] ---| User: *** JodiS is now known as J [07:36:41] ---| User: *** J is now known as Guest76585 [07:38:29] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [07:39:04] ---| <--- JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has left #code4lib () [07:39:26] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [07:53:56] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has quit () [07:54:21] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [07:55:25] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has quit (Client Quit) [07:55:52] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [07:56:04] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has quit (Client Quit) [08:02:41] wickr_ | we're on the road to Rhode Island [08:38:51] lbjay | @sing talking heads : road to nowhere [08:38:54] zoia | And we're not little children, and we know what we want / And the future is certain, give us time to work it out / Yeah / We're on a road to nowhere, come on inside [08:39:04] lbjay | @weather PVD [08:39:07] zoia | lbjay: The current temperature in Providence, Rhode Island is 32.0°F (7:51 AM EST on February 22, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Falling). [08:39:57] lbjay | up to 8" of snow in boston, mostly north & west though. looks like just rain for PVD. [08:40:08] lbjay | ^ today's forecast [08:42:08] ---| ---> hdl2 [n=hdl@wsip-70-164-25-109.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:42:37] lbjay | @hosts2010 [08:42:39] zoia | lbjay: Asheville, NC [147]; Austin, TX [145]; Madison, WI [126]; Columbus, OH [97]; Bloomington, IN [66] [08:51:15] ---| <<-- hdl2 [n=hdl@wsip-70-164-25-109.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:24:13] ---| ---> rsinger_ [n=rosssing@c-67-161-232-211.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [09:29:46] ---| <<-- rsinger_ [n=rosssing@c-67-161-232-211.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit () [09:48:42] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Leggott, Mark: Latest Evergreen Release Available [09:55:09] ---| <<-- papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ("Leaving") [09:56:15] ---| ---> eikeon [n=eikeon@c-69-143-164-88.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [09:57:49] ---| <<-- phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m4d5e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ("used jmIrc") [09:58:48] ---| ---> phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m465e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [10:21:23] erikhatcher | who's in providence now? i guess it's still a bit early [10:22:28] lbjay | @dunno add i think the property you're looking for is http://open.vocab.org/terms/rtfm.html [10:22:53] lbjay | uh-oh, where's zoia? [10:23:00] lbjay | @dunno add i think the property you're looking for is http://open.vocab.org/terms/rtfm.html [10:23:02] zoia | lbjay: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [10:23:12] lbjay | @dunno add i think the property you're looking for is http://open.vocab.org/terms/rtfm.html [10:23:14] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #296 added. [10:23:29] lbjay | user_error-- [10:23:43] lbjay | @ana planes, trains and automobiles [10:23:46] zoia | lbjay: Is not pleasurable damnations [10:23:56] lbjay | zoia: i'll say [10:23:58] zoia | lbjay: i know what you did last summer [10:24:15] lbjay | erikhatcher: are you there already? [10:24:35] erikhatcher | lbjay: no... just day dreaming of being there [10:43:21] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@138.210.8.79] has quit () [10:44:29] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@138.210.8.79] has joined #code4lib [10:46:06] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [11:00:16] danbri | erikhatcher, i was about to ask you about the lucene book cover art. but i just found http://www.manning.com/hatcher2/excerpt_about.html :) [11:00:40] danbri | good read btw, lots of ideas in there! unlike countless other tech books that just plod thru a set of apis [11:00:49] * ecorrado loves what his slides say about OCLC in his c4l talk... the complete content is "OCLC is doing something" ... I guess I should expand on that [11:01:21] erikhatcher | danbri: thanks! [11:03:09] lbjay | ecorrado: i thought your talk was on the EL open platform [11:03:56] ecorrado | lbjay: it is mostly about that, but I wanted to throw in a little about OCLC and the Worldcat API [11:04:18] lbjay | ecorrado: compare and contrast [11:04:19] ecorrado | I'm probably not going to do much on OCLC ,sicne the peopel that care are probably going to be at the pre-conference tommorow [11:15:02] ---| <<-- sarabee [n=sarabee@c-76-97-57-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [11:17:01] ---| ---> eby_ [n=ebyr@c-71-206-107-74.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [11:18:57] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Brickley, Dan: On the internet, no-one knows. [11:28:53] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@c-67-161-232-211.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit () [11:36:41] ---| ---> wtd [n=buff@moriarty.miskatonic.org] has joined #code4lib [11:48:32] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@138.210.8.79] has quit () [12:07:41] ---| User: *** ecorrado is now known as edc_detached [12:17:05] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Denton, William: Last week in FRBR [12:25:31] ---| <<-- wtd [n=buff@moriarty.miskatonic.org] has quit ("Leaving") [12:49:08] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Eaton, Alf: An open question to authors of text mining tools [12:49:48] atz | heading out... see y'all soon [12:50:05] ---| <--- atz [n=atz@cpe-75-185-117-223.insight.res.rr.com] has left #code4lib () [12:50:43] ---| Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: gsf, sboyette_ [12:52:51] ---| Netsplit over, joins: sboyette_, gsf [13:13:44] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [13:13:45] zoia | my provenance. let show you it. [13:15:33] ---| <<-- eikeon [n=eikeon@c-69-143-164-88.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit () [13:19:08] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@ool-4572edc3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #code4lib [13:19:13] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: code4lib twitter mentions: flyingzumwalt: Departing from MPLS to Boston for #code4lib. Brain is sluggish from #dykesdodrag afterparty, but totally worth it. [13:44:39] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [13:47:18] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Zimmerman, Peter: a more nuanced discussion of creative class [14:10:04] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@ool-4572edc3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ("Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info/") [14:15:26] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@mobile-166-217-055-094.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [14:15:39] anarchivist | woo! spring break! 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[15:08:01] anarchivist | @quote random [15:08:03] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #49: "rdhyee: one sharp knife is better than a drawer full of dull ones (from Chinese saying)" (added by tholbroo at 04:46 PM, November 23, 2005) [15:12:36] ---| ---> hdl2 [n=hdl@wsip-70-164-25-96.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:19:31] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Johnston, Leslie: Caldwell collection [15:38:52] ---| ---> cschx [n=cschx@173-211.lib.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:40:14] ---| ---> eikeon [n=eikeon@dsl092-168-195.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [15:40:15] zoia | :D [15:40:50] anarchivist | @quote random [15:40:52] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1690: " I run all my patches through @canuck" (added by ksclarke at 02:46 PM, February 04, 2009) [15:40:56] ---| <<-- eikeon [n=eikeon@dsl092-168-195.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit (Client Quit) [15:41:07] ---| <--- cschx [n=cschx@173-211.lib.umich.edu] has left #code4lib () [15:46:21] ---| ---> cschx_ [n=cschx@udhcp-macvpn-842.public.engin.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:47:06] ---| <<-- cschx_ [n=cschx@udhcp-macvpn-842.public.engin.umich.edu] has quit () [15:47:48] ---| ---> cschx [n=cschx@udhcp-macvpn-842.public.engin.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:50:13] ---| <<-- cschx [n=cschx@udhcp-macvpn-842.public.engin.umich.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [16:03:09] BillDueber_ | cschx is a little conflicted, I think. [16:06:15] anarchivist | i'm surprised my connection has been this resilient [16:17:38] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Bisson, Casey: Don’t Be Stupid, Magenta Is A Color [16:31:30] ---| ---> tvol [n=chatzill@38.219.132.100] has joined #code4lib [16:41:31] lbjay | @quote random [16:41:32] zoia | lbjay: Quote #1386: " talks is cheap - on irc at least" (added by edsu at 12:21 PM, May 16, 2008) [16:51:22] ---| ---> jaron_ [n=jason@cpe-071-070-157-094.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [17:04:24] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:05:41] ---| <<-- artunit [n=chatzill@arhyno-8.libf.uwindsor.ca] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [17:06:19] ---| ---> cazzerson [n=cazzerso@wsip-70-164-25-89.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:06:30] ---| <<-- jaron_ [n=jason@cpe-071-070-157-094.nc.res.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [17:12:42] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:16:58] lbjay | anyone here who's used openvocab? [17:17:13] ---| <<-- tvol [n=chatzill@38.219.132.100] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [17:19:59] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@32.178.28.25] has joined #code4lib [17:20:45] anarchivist | @quote random [17:20:47] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #419: " I am speaking. Yes I am. I will speak loudly and often throughout the course of this meeting." (added by ksclarke at 04:26 PM, September 15, 2006) [17:24:38] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@mobile-166-217-105-079.mycingular.net] has joined #code4lib [17:24:56] anarchivist_ | ugh [17:25:09] anarchivist_ | anyone getting free wifi at the renaissance? [17:26:29] cazzerson | me [17:26:49] cazzerson | They said that free wifi comes with the room code, so just accept the charges and sort it out at check-out [17:26:57] anarchivist_ | ok, awesome [17:27:14] ---| <<-- anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Client Quit) [17:29:09] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:29:26] anarchivist_ | @quote random [17:29:26] zoia | anarchivist_: Quote #1603: " meanwhile, I still hate Rails." (added by jbrinley at 04:46 PM, November 10, 2008) [17:29:30] anarchivist_ | that's better [17:31:39] ---| ---> dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [17:31:55] edsu | icanhaz wifi [17:32:06] dbs | icanhaz envhy [17:32:11] dbs | envy, even [17:32:31] * anarchivist_ can haz beer [17:32:37] * dbs wishes the overLODs luck with their preconf [17:32:40] edsu | this hotel rox0r [17:32:53] edsu | dbs: you will be missed [17:33:05] jbrinley | is dbs stuck at the border again? [17:33:10] anarchivist_ | dbs: hook up a webcam so we can project you on the wall [17:33:38] edsu | can we not announce #c4l09 in here, please? [17:33:50] edsu | s/not// [17:33:53] edsu | :-) [17:34:01] anarchivist_ | lol [17:34:28] edsu | oh well, one less distraction is a good thing i guess [17:37:23] lbjay | @quote add is dbs stuck at the border again? [17:37:24] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Quote #1713 added. [17:41:10] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:41:37] ---| User: *** anarchivist_ is now known as anarchivist [17:45:24] * anarchivist going to work at the bar [17:45:32] anarchivist | brb [17:45:39] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [17:49:36] ---| User: *** jbrinley is now known as jbrinley_dinner [17:49:46] * jbrinley_din goes to see who's at the fireplace [17:49:58] lbjay | huh, i assumed the LIBRIS uris would give back rdf based on conneg but they don't [17:50:16] edsu | you sure? [17:50:27] lbjay | curl -H "Accept: application/rdf+xml" http://libris.kb.se/bib/5060570 [17:50:56] lbjay | am i doin' it wrong? [17:51:11] edsu | that's the uri for the web page right? [17:51:12] ---| ---> royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:51:20] lbjay | yeah [17:51:30] dbs | two-month old baby is keeping me home this year : [17:51:32] dbs | :) [17:51:46] BillDueber_ | Hey can anyone in Providence speak to any snow on the ground? Should I be wearing boots? [17:51:52] lbjay | no snow [17:51:52] dbs | @google "family planning for c4l2010" [17:51:54] zoia | dbs: No matches found. (Search took 0.32 seconds) [17:52:10] lbjay | BillDueber_: even in boston it's still just raining [17:52:13] edsu | lbjay: view source on the html, and search for rdf/xml [17:52:20] lbjay | edsu: yeah, i got that [17:52:23] edsu | sorry, search for application/rdf+xml [17:53:15] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-85.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:53:18] edsu | did you look at the rdf/xml that came back? [17:53:44] edsu | and the uri that it describes? [17:53:46] lbjay | the alternates use a format=application/rdf+xml param [17:53:52] edsu | yup [17:53:54] lbjay | ahh [17:54:01] lbjay | http://libris.kb.se/resource/bib/5060570 [17:54:10] edsu | yea [17:54:10] BillDueber_ | @wunder 02901 [17:54:11] zoia | BillDueber_: The current temperature in Cherry Hill, Johnston, Rhode Island is 36.0°F (5:54 PM EST on February 22, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.51 in 999.2 hPa (Falling). [17:54:14] * lbjay tries that with curl [17:54:27] lbjay | nope, same thing. empty response [17:54:29] lbjay | oh well [17:54:38] lbjay | just trying to find an example to illustrate something [17:55:22] edsu | curl doesn't follow redirects automatically [17:55:39] edsu | and you aren't seeing the headers that are coming back presumably [17:55:51] edsu | put a -i on there to see the headers [17:55:57] edsu | or --locate to follow redirects [17:56:16] lbjay | ahh, works if i add -L [17:56:19] lbjay | edsu: right [17:56:21] edsu | sorry --location [17:56:39] lbjay | -L sameAs --location [17:56:44] edsu | yeah [17:57:05] lbjay | works on the /bib/ url too [17:57:21] edsu | also a 303? [18:00:09] lbjay | 303 [18:04:59] edsu | innarestin [18:05:05] edsu | mjgiarlo: you down in the bar? [18:07:08] * royt is about to go down there, fwiw [18:07:43] edsu | royt: coolio [18:07:52] edsu | it's a nice hotel [18:08:34] royt | yes indeed [18:08:53] * lbjay sorta wishes he was there [18:09:17] royt | lbjay: so do we ;-) [18:09:38] ---| <<-- jbrinley_dinner [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [18:09:40] lbjay | more time to work on my throw-away slides [18:10:15] lbjay | and by that i mean they deserve to be thrown away [18:11:12] lbjay | edsu: you imagine any drastic schedule changes arising from tonight's discussion? [18:12:37] edsu | only thing i can imagine is things starting late due to hangovers [18:12:48] ---| ---> dlovins [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [18:13:33] edsu | dlovins, dchud you guys made it to providence? [18:13:39] lbjay | well, at least i won't be hungover [18:14:00] edsu | lbjay: what's that corona doing in your hand then? [18:14:17] lbjay | edsu: s/corona/pilsner_urquell/ [18:14:26] edsu | lbjay++ [18:14:48] royt | edsu: good shot, tho [18:14:48] lbjay | i'd be willing to play the MC role if no one wants it [18:15:40] lbjay | although I know royt and I, sir, am no royt [18:16:17] royt | lbjay: LOL, and that's to your everlasting credit [18:16:41] royt | i was nailed to do that duty, but stay close, last time i did it I shared it with dchud [18:17:09] dchud | yessir [18:17:22] royt | and he totally blew it too [18:17:24] lbjay | we probably don't really need an MC, per se, but i'm okay with being the general mover-of-things-along [18:17:26] royt | oh, wait [18:17:27] ---| ---> tomkeays [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-95.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [18:17:34] royt | dchud is here, oops ;-) [18:17:54] royt | did i say that out loud? [18:17:58] dchud | the thing is, you want to have a posse [18:18:05] royt | right [18:18:14] dchud | it shouldn't be one person's responsibility to do everything, and it's good to mix it up day to day [18:18:19] royt | well, time^H^H^H^H past time for a drink [18:18:22] dchud | but what do i know, last time i totally blew it [18:18:26] royt | heh [18:18:37] lbjay | @eightball will dchud blow it again? [18:18:37] zoia | lbjay: NO. [18:18:50] royt | right [18:18:59] royt | but the question was phrased wrong [18:19:08] royt | @eightball did dchud blow it last time? [18:19:08] zoia | royt: No chance. [18:19:12] royt | there you go [18:19:29] ---| User: *** royt is now known as royt_bar [18:19:36] ---| <<-- tomkeays [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-95.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [18:19:36] royt_bar | later [18:19:43] dchud | where's the bar? [18:19:59] royt_bar | downstairs and off to the side (toward the state house) [18:20:22] dchud | is that "temple" ? [18:22:51] dlovins | I get the "temple" bit now. I guess this hotel was originally a masonic temple. [18:23:19] miker_ | that explains the hidden passageways [18:23:28] lbjay | @ana ask a freemason [18:23:30] zoia | lbjay: Freak mean as so [18:23:43] dlovins | Could someone tell me how you use the "#c4l09" code within twitter? [18:23:48] dchud | hidden passageways? sounds like a breakout session to me [18:24:03] dchud | dlovins: just include that in your tweet anywhere. [18:24:32] dchud | ze web, she is the slow [18:24:46] ---| ---> ksclarke [n=ksclarke@12.185.224.139] has joined #code4lib [18:24:48] dchud | dlovins: like these: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23c4l09 [18:24:53] ---| <<-- hghgd [n=lll@e178042101.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ("---") [18:25:22] dchud | is there food in that bar? [18:26:38] dlovins | dchud: got it. Thanks. [18:27:06] dchud | it is very odd to be talking with you here after just spending 4+ hours with you :) [18:27:26] dchud | not bad, just odd :) [18:28:20] dlovins | dchud: I know what you mean. :-) [18:29:31] dlovins | Very glad to have had your company on the drive up. And then those Italian pastries hit the spot. [18:30:30] dchud | they were *delicious* ! [18:30:44] dchud | and very glad to have been the company [18:30:54] ---| ---> ksclarke1 [n=ksclarke@12.185.224.139] has joined #code4lib [18:30:55] ---| <<-- ksclarke [n=ksclarke@12.185.224.139] has quit ("Going where the weather suits my clothes") [18:33:15] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@12.185.224.107] has joined #code4lib [18:38:57] ---| User: *** ksclarke1 is now known as ksclarke [18:39:35] ---| User: *** ksclarke is now known as Guest86300 [18:40:09] ---| ---> JodiS_ [n=jodi@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #code4lib [18:40:35] edsu | JodiS_: you and ksclarke traveling together? [18:42:49] ---| <<-- Guest86300 [n=ksclarke@12.185.224.139] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [18:44:00] ---| ---> iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-95.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [18:45:07] * wickr_ is trying to decide between food and sleep [18:45:47] lbjay | wickr_: isn't it 3:45 your time? [18:46:19] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@138.210.8.79] has joined #code4lib [18:46:39] wickr_ | lbjay: maybe, but that's also about the amount of sleep I got last night [18:47:04] lbjay | wickr_: oh yeah. early flight. [18:47:27] lbjay | wickr_: who did you travel with? [18:47:35] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Keynote: Born Digital || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Conference Prep [18:47:49] JodiS | edsu: yup [18:48:11] JodiS | edsu: got a message for him? [18:48:43] JodiS | wickr: food then sleep, IMO [18:48:46] lbjay | JodiS: tell him "eyes on the road, hands at 10 & 2" [18:48:55] wickr_ | lbjay: just me, I'm not sure if reeset or kgriggs is coming to the preconfs [18:48:59] dchud | food then slides for me [18:49:13] dchud | slides to go before i sleep, slides to go before i sleep [18:49:16] JodiS | breakfast before 6AM is hard to come by [18:49:23] wickr_ | JodiS: yeah, I probably better have a real meal today [18:49:32] JodiS | edsu: we're on the PHL layover part of the trip [18:49:52] JodiS | free_wifi++ [18:49:53] ---| ---> ksclarke [n=ksclarke@12.185.224.139] has joined #code4lib [18:50:33] ---| <<-- Guest76585 [n=jodi@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [18:54:31] ---| User: *** dchud is now known as dchud_temple [18:55:51] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-77.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [18:55:53] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-77.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [18:56:00] edsu | JodiS: cool [18:56:02] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-77.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [19:03:22] edsu | jdatema: you in providence? [19:03:45] jdatema | Yep [19:03:57] jdatema | Bar at 8? [19:07:27] ---| <<-- shoe [n=shoe@ip24-250-63-6.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [19:10:40] ---| ---> shoe [n=shoe@ip24-250-63-6.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [19:14:41] ---| <<-- BillDueber_ [n=dueberb@adsl-76-226-138-107.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit () [19:18:09] JodiS | shoe: are you the shoe of http://www.linuxlibrarian.org/ ? [19:18:16] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Google Generation [19:20:45] ---| <<-- danbri [n=danbri@unaffiliated/danbri] has quit () [19:24:49] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-59.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [19:25:14] ---| <<-- ksclarke [n=ksclarke@12.185.224.139] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [19:25:24] rsinger | edsu: ok, i'm in PVD [19:25:26] ---| ---> eikeon [n=eikeon@dsl092-168-195.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [19:25:26] zoia | :D [19:26:19] rsinger | where are we planning to meet for the preconf meeting? [19:27:54] rsinger | i guess i'll just go downstairs and shout assertions until i make a graph [19:28:15] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-59.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [19:28:40] JodiS | mjgiarlo: hotel mac & cheese as good as advertised? [19:33:08] ---| <<-- JodiS_ [n=jodi@96-36-113-218.static.hckr.nc.charter.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [19:34:33] edsu | jdatema: aye, bar at 8 (although it looks like a bunch of people are there already) [19:39:15] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@12.185.224.107] has quit () [19:40:35] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@12.185.224.107] has joined #code4lib [19:52:19] ---| ---> danbri [n=danbri@77.167.54.81] has joined #code4lib [19:58:09] * edsu departs bar-ward [20:02:44] ---| <<-- danbri [n=danbri@unaffiliated/danbri] has quit () [20:07:15] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@12.185.224.107] has quit () [20:17:21] ---| <<-- eby_ [n=ebyr@c-71-206-107-74.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit () [20:18:28] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Murray, Peter: Durham Statement on Open Access to Legal Scholarship [20:22:04] ---| ---> bess [n=eos8d@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:22:21] ---| User: *** dchud_temple is now known as dchud [20:23:27] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:23:45] bess | anyone know how to make changes to the conference schedule? http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [20:24:18] bess | I'm down as a co-presenter for Adam Soroka's presentation, which was true for about ten minutes right after we came up with the proposal idea, but things have changed since then. [20:26:53] ---| ---> wickr [n=wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [20:27:08] dchud | bess: it's likely that if you can log in to drupal you can edit that entry [20:27:38] bess | dchud: I logged in, but I don't seem to be able to edit that page. I'll keep trying. [20:27:48] dchud | lemme check, maybe i can [20:28:00] dchud | (anything to avoid working on my slides! :) [20:28:09] ---| ---> MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-62.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:28:30] MrDys | pvd++ [20:28:49] dchud | i can edit. you want i should just remove your name? or maybe i could just check your perms. [20:29:04] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:29:27] bess | dchud: I'm most worried about having my name removed. [20:29:38] bess | If you feel like checking my permissions that would be great, too, though. :) [20:30:04] bess | A modern open webservice-based GIS infrastructure - the only name should be Adam Soroka [20:30:32] dchud | you are still talking about blacklight though right? :) [20:30:57] bess | dchud: yes [20:31:08] ---| <<-- hdl2 [n=hdl@wsip-70-164-25-96.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [20:31:40] dchud | ok, reload, does it look right now? [20:32:07] bess | looking... [20:32:45] dchud | i tweaked your perms too, see if there's an edit tab too? [20:33:04] bess | dchud: Yes! It's all fixed! You are awesome. [20:33:14] bess | dchud++ # thank you [20:34:01] dchud | np [20:35:43] bess | okay, one more question: How do I find out where the pre-conferences are happening? [20:35:56] dchud | is it me or does it trouble the rest of you that our new approved logo (which is very much like, otherwise) effectively only matches the token "codecodecodecode4lib" ? [20:36:18] dchud | bess: i got email about it, did you not? [20:36:29] bess | dchud: no, no emails [20:36:58] bess | Where is the linked data one? [20:37:01] dchud | hrm, i'll check mine [20:37:06] MrDys | bess: ballroom [20:37:07] dchud | it's here in the hotel [20:37:08] MrDys | of the hotel [20:37:11] bess | sweet [20:37:15] bess | How about the XML one? [20:37:21] jbrinley | dchud: s/codecodecodecode4lib/codecodecodecodelib/ [20:37:35] bess | (three people in my hotel room, all signed up for different workshops, none of whom know where their workshops are) [20:37:47] dchud | jbrinley: gack! oops, sorry. :) [20:38:06] dchud | jbrinley: did that issue come up at all during the planning/review? just curious. i really do like it :) [20:38:08] ---| <<-- wickr_ [n=wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [20:38:27] MrDys | dchud: don't remember anyone mentioning it [20:38:39] jbrinley | dchud: I doubt it (but I wasn't involved enough to really know) [20:38:49] jbrinley | dchud: ask royt_bar [20:39:20] dchud | i'll ask him. it's funny in a way though, it kinda sounds like a rallying cry: code code code codelib! [20:40:50] bess | So is there a list of where all of the pre-conferences are happening tomorrow? [20:40:54] jeff | ba ba ba, ba barbara-ann... [20:40:55] MrDys | hmmm...mall or hotel bar for dinner? [20:41:07] bess | MrDys: the hotel bar is pretty good. [20:42:08] MrDys | the hotel bar website needs some work, though [20:42:12] dchud | fwiw there are shuttle vans set up to take people over to brown for some of the pre-confs, but i'm not sure which are over there [20:42:27] dchud | jeff: are you here in PVD? [20:42:33] jbrinley | I thought all but linked-data were at Brown [20:42:51] MrDys | jbrinley: that's the sense that I got too with all of the shuttle announcements [20:43:13] jeff | dchud: alas, no [20:44:06] jeff | i'm upgrading servers and hacking on evergreen patron notification [20:44:08] * bess just found the email with all the pre-conference locations. Is there a reason why this data should not go on the conference page? [20:44:25] jbrinley | bess: because you didn't put it there [20:44:31] dchud | heh [20:44:40] dchud | jeff: well show up one of these years, eh? :) [20:44:42] bess | jbrinley: good answer. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't some reason for not publishing it. [20:44:48] jeff | dchud: one of these years :) [20:45:09] dchud | bess: i can't think of a reason either [20:45:20] jeff | dchud: i should be at eg09 in may. that will hopefully be fun. :) [20:48:20] dchud | Chris Catalfo works at librarything now? [20:59:21] MrDys | well shit. it would appear that the mall is closed. [21:01:13] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@32.165.142.132] has joined #code4lib [21:01:35] bess | The latest list of pre-conference locations I see is from February 5: http://groups.google.com/group/code4libcon/browse_thread/thread/0adf094f69b08da7# [21:01:42] bess | Is there any data more recent than that? [21:01:48] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@32.165.142.132] has quit (Client Quit) [21:01:54] ---| ---> siznax [n=siznax@user-11fa5qu.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #code4lib [21:01:56] bess | I notice that at least one location (the XML workshop) has changed [21:02:16] bess | I'd like to update the pre-conf page with the locations, but I don't want to put outdated info up there. [21:02:20] MrDys | bess: I'm pretty sure that none got added post-registration [21:02:45] MrDys | hmm let me check the e-mail [21:02:46] bess | MrDys: but did any get moved to different locations? [21:03:43] MrDys | bess: since I'm only registered for linked data, it only gave me the linked data location :( [21:03:54] bess | yeah. [21:04:29] bess | well, I'll put the data from the email up there and email Bonnie and Birkin and ask them to check it [21:12:35] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [21:12:51] ---| <<-- cazzerson [n=cazzerso@wsip-70-164-25-89.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [21:13:39] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:15:27] ---| ---> wtd [n=buff@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:15:49] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-50.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:19:12] dchud | hey wtd, hey fak3r [21:19:16] dchud | are y'all here? [21:19:35] MrDys | are people still at the bar? [21:20:15] jbrinley | MrDys: between now and Friday, how often do you think people won't be at the bar? [21:20:50] MrDys | probably only when they're at the conference... [21:21:14] ---| <<-- wtd [n=buff@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("BRB") [21:22:11] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:22:22] wtd | Hey dchud. Yeah, I'm here. [21:22:34] dchud | WOOH! another wtd sighting. it's been too long, man :) [21:22:46] dchud | i'm hacking on my slides or i'd offer to buy you a drink [21:22:55] wtd | Heh, same here. [21:23:07] dchud | are you speaking tomorrow? or your 20-min talk slides? [21:23:20] wtd | My Wednesday slides, with JodiS. [21:24:15] wtd | I hope my luggage has arrived by Wednesday or I will look pretty grubby up there. Air Canada sacrificed luggage for fuel on my flight. [21:25:14] dbs | aircanada-- [21:26:06] bess | I updated the locations of the pre-conferences here: http://code4lib.org/node/266#preconferences I would be very happy if someone would check to make sure my information isn't out of date. [21:27:28] dchud | wtd: ack! [21:27:32] dchud | air_canada-- [21:27:43] jbrinley | bess++ [21:27:48] dchud | now you know what we deal with when we head up to access :) [21:28:08] bess | okay, one more dumb question [21:28:18] bess | what time do the pre-conferences happen? [21:28:25] dchud | start at 9 [21:28:50] bess | 9 - 12 and 1 - 4? [21:29:24] wtd | dchud: Got some aggro from a Homeland Security guy too. He put a note on my file. Somehow he got the idea I was getting paid to speak. :( [21:29:29] jbrinley | bess: LOD preconf is 9-12 and 1:30-4:30, I think [21:30:05] bess | is that the same schedule for all of them, do we know? [21:31:42] bess | well, it is now, because I don't see the times listed anywhere [21:34:15] bess | okay, we've got what, where, and when covered for the pre-conferences in a central location. http://code4lib.org/node/266 [21:34:46] jbrinley | bess++ [21:36:11] ---| <<-- siznax [n=siznax@user-11fa5qu.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [21:40:34] dchud | wtd: oops. [21:43:44] wtd | dchud: From your FOAF file, I detect a liking for Slim Gaillard. [21:46:24] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-50.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [21:46:58] bess | My foaf has disappeared from the list. You guys don't like me anymore or what? No one wants to be my friend? [21:47:26] bess | Didn't royt's keep disappearing yesterday? What was the fix? [21:48:31] wtd | Where's your FOAF, bess? [21:48:38] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: O'Steen, Ben: Handling Tabular data [21:49:03] bess | www.ibiblio.org/bess/foaf.rdf#me [21:49:23] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-42.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:50:24] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-42.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [21:50:27] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-42.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:50:38] ---| ---> hdl2 [n=hdl@wsip-70-164-25-96.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:51:40] wtd | edsu's thing only lists people who say they're attending the linked data preconf. [21:52:02] wtd | I added you to mine. [21:52:56] bess | wtd: thank you. [21:52:56] ---| <<-- dlovins [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [21:54:55] bess | wtd: isn't this what I want? [21:55:23] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [21:55:25] bess | or is there a more specific way to indicate attendance at the linked data preconf? [21:56:17] wtd | For added geekiness, you need: [21:56:40] ---| ---> dlovins [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:04:09] bess | wtd: okay, added it. thank you. I always want as much geekiness as possible. :) [22:05:40] wtd | But now you have to come to the linked data session, or you'd be lying, and that would be terrible. [22:05:56] dchud | UNTRUTHS IN THE LINKED DATA CLOUD CALL THE POLICE [22:06:18] dchud | i kinda want some dessert. anybody know if the restaurant is still open? [22:06:20] * dbs wonders how many people deliberately introduced lies into their FOAF [22:06:36] * dchud whistles unguiltily [22:06:47] wtd | dchud: I think they said until 11. [22:07:07] dchud | wtd: hey lemme buy you a nightcap then... you can bring your laptop if i can bring mine [22:07:36] wtd | Deal. I'll see you down there. [22:07:40] dchud | woot! [22:07:43] ---| User: *** dchud is now known as dchud_temple [22:07:54] ---| <<-- wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009020911]") [22:08:06] ---| <<-- dchud_temple [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-85.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [22:20:28] ---| ---> mouwd [n=mouwd@wsip-70-164-25-85.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:21:10] ---| <<-- bess [n=eos8d@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("gotta go...") 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[23:12:22] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:12:58] dchud | the bar, the bar [23:13:40] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@wsip-70-164-25-120.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [23:14:43] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [23:19:03] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Schmidt, Aaron: I Ditched Google Reader & Gmail to Increase My Productivity [23:25:01] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:29:31] ---| ---> dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:29:49] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [23:36:41] ---| ---> ksclarke [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-53.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:37:51] ---| <<-- petercline [n=peter@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("leaving") [23:41:20] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:44:49] anarchivist | @quote random [23:44:51] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #737: " i prefer well-travelled metadata; it has more perspective" (added by gsf at 05:50 PM, February 27, 2007) [23:45:15] wtd | dchud++ [23:45:25] dchud_ | what was that for? [23:45:29] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [23:46:00] anarchivist | dchud: oh, hey, tom hyry said this via facebook [23:46:06] anarchivist | "When you see Dan, say "Chudley my good man!"" [23:46:13] dchud | haw! [23:46:23] dchud | we had breakfast together this morning :) [23:47:16] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-77.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [23:49:03] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-87.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:50:54] wtd | dchud: For the wine. [23:51:03] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-52.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:51:13] dchud | oh! well, my pleasure :) [23:52:30] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-50.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:52:36] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-87.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [23:52:45] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-87.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:52:51] dchud | go slumdog go [23:52:57] dchud | wooh! [23:53:11] dchud | hooray... what a great movie. [23:53:40] dchud | oh neat, all the actors are up there [23:54:53] wtd | It won best picture? I just saw it last night. [23:55:08] dchud | yep! they're saying thank you right now [23:55:25] BigD | did they break out into a huge dance number? [23:55:32] dchud | i'm hoping! --- Day changed Mon Feb 23 2009 [00:00:50] * royt_bar is really glad that slumdog millionniaire won it [00:01:09] * anarchivist wants a sandwich really bad [00:01:54] royt_bar | way past time to hit the sack, night all [00:02:14] ---| <<-- royt_bar [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [00:06:16] ---| <<-- ksclarke [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-53.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Going where the weather suits my clothes") [00:12:17] dchud | gosh, if royt were really sleepy, maybe he should've left the bar [00:12:47] anarchivist | dchud++ [00:13:07] edsu | bizarrr [00:13:19] anarchivist | @quote random [00:13:19] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1123: " it's all stupid" (added by jbrinley at 04:30 PM, January 10, 2008) [00:16:01] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@wsip-70-164-25-87.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [00:17:04] BigD | i should be asleep [00:17:07] BigD | it's not happening [00:17:45] * edsu passes out in stupor [00:18:07] BigD | heh, i'll be really loud at the preconf [00:18:12] BigD | for yer hangover ;) [00:18:19] anarchivist | BigD++ [00:18:38] anarchivist | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxQHCClZDLU [00:19:22] ---| <<-- shekhar [n=shekhar@c-98-216-51-36.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ("Leaving.") 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If I make it to Bargaining, it will be with another vendor, or Open Source of some sort." (added by ksclarke at 05:05 PM, April 11, 2007) [07:27:56] kgs | hey, can we do preconferences here, in our jammies? it's cold out [07:28:05] royt | kgs++ [07:30:31] kgs | royt I think I'll follow miker_ to the vufind session in the morning but could head to the grid services thing in the afternoon and tape some of it or just do some interviews [07:31:13] kgs | sort of "this is code4lib" a la "this is spinal tap" [07:36:26] royt | kgs: ok, cool. the afternoon is largely a free-form work session, just so you know [07:36:31] royt | time to head out... [07:37:18] kgs | hmmm... ok in that case, I'll come back here and work :) have a good session royt! [07:37:30] royt | ok, thanks! 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[08:19:54] MrDys | oh that zoia [08:22:29] jbrinley | @quote random [08:22:29] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #216: "(16:20:53) tholbroo: i wipe a kid every day" (added by robcaSSon at 04:25 PM, March 02, 2006) [08:23:18] cazzerson | huh, just saw a wikipedia ad on USA [08:23:52] cazzerson | "Jimmy Wales: Character Approved" [08:24:29] dchud | too many slides, not enough sleep [08:31:57] lbjay | the wireless FAILs have begun [08:32:12] MrDys | I woke up earlier for this preconf that I do for my normal job. [08:32:20] MrDys | I hope you're happy, code4lib [08:34:22] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-52.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Leaving.") 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I wanted my name to be "thePersonFormerlyKnownAsBLTnoTomatoes" [09:00:43] dlovins | My dad hails from the Lovinskys of eastern Europe. My step-mom from Loving Country, Texas. [09:01:04] dlovins | :s/Country/County [09:01:14] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-62.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [09:01:43] BigD | dlovins: [09:02:01] BigD | dlovins: of course, with a goofy name like Declan, i don't have much room to talk... 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[09:05:57] anarchivist | BigD++ [09:05:58] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-19.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:05:58] BigD | http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/3298981101/ great hair [09:06:00] lbjay | what is JodiS doing? [09:06:02] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:06:15] lbjay | ahh [09:06:20] mbklein | Nothing in Tim Berners-Lee's web proposal about pr0n or herbal V1AG4A [09:06:24] mjg_ | "This is a picture I took of the dumpster outside timbl's flat, and I am pretty sure it's got some bread he chewed in it." 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[WordNet 1.5 +PJC] [09:08:21] mjg_ | Andy, Jean-Claude's lesser-known brother (who's also got an awesome split move) [09:08:24] BigD | sweet specs [09:08:42] BigD | heh, i built a light pen once [09:08:50] anarchivist | BigD: that will be my new look [09:09:04] mbklein | BigD: Can you build me a shark with frickin' laser beams on its head? [09:09:06] ---| ---> vphill_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-29.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:09:08] BigD | he's a fun dude. richandcreamy [09:09:29] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-25.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:09:49] ---| ---> jphipps [n=jphipps@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:09:50] JodiS | as we may think! :) [09:09:52] BigD | http://www.flickr.com/photos/berichandcreamy/ [09:10:03] BigD | hi jodi! [09:10:04] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:10:19] anarchivist | soybars+- [09:10:28] anarchivist | weird_aftertaste-- [09:10:44] lbjay | JodiS: you are recording audio? [09:10:47] mbklein | "HERE BE DRAGONS" [09:10:52] JodiS | lbjay: I think so :) [09:11:01] mjg_ | mbklein++ [09:11:02] lbjay | Mordor is off the map to the right [09:11:25] ---| User: *** MrDys- is now known as MrDys [09:11:25] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@m0e0f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [09:11:28] * jtgorman_ prepares to live vicariously through pre-conf folks [09:11:29] JodiS | BigD: thanks for your taxi tip :) [09:11:41] BigD | that's a very ugly tetris [09:11:44] jtgorman_ | I also prepare to be extremely, extremley confused [09:11:51] * jbrinley starts to pepper the channel with false info to throw off jtgorman_ [09:11:53] lbjay | BigD: don't tip the librarians, please [09:11:54] anarchivist | cakes++ [09:11:55] mjg_ | TAKE ME TO YOUR LEAAAAAADER [09:11:56] BigD | JodiS: did you find vphill? [09:12:11] jeff | jtgorman_: yeah, non-con talk in here is somewhat impractical during conferences :) [09:12:17] ---| ---> bfrederi [n=brandon@wsip-70-164-25-118.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:12:19] JodiS | BigD: no, but appreciate it anyway :) [09:12:27] BigD | wow, how did he get tim berners lee to show up?!? [09:12:34] lbjay | anyone here from one of the other preconfs? [09:12:39] anarchivist | omg [09:12:42] BigD | i have that outfit [09:12:45] * MrDys windmills [09:12:47] JodiS | "break"ing it down [09:12:48] anarchivist | edsu: breakdance already [09:12:55] JodiS | anarchivist++ [09:12:55] BigD | tbl was a breakdancer [09:12:55] mbklein | lbjay: [09:13:00] anarchivist | pop and lock! pop and lock! [09:13:03] BigD | bust a move [09:13:15] JodiS | jtgorman_: for context: http://code4lib.org/node/266#preconferences [09:13:22] jtgorman_ | BigD: last time I tried to bust a move, the move busted me. [09:13:28] * jtgorman_ has been dying to say that one for a while [09:13:43] BigD | jtgorman_: yer welcome [09:13:45] ---| Channel: lbjay changed the topic of #code4lib to: non-con talkers, STFU [09:13:45] JodiS | didn't know that was how you pronounced SWEO [09:13:51] ---| ---> jaron1 [n=jason@jaron.lib.ncsu.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:13:51] mbklein | jtgorman++ # for keeping a breakdancing gag in reserve [09:14:02] ---| ---> phil___ [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-38.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:14:08] BigD | i've been trying to think of something funny to say around "can't touch this" but it kinda speaks for itself [09:14:10] ---| ---> robcaSSon [n=rob@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:14:24] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-38.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [09:14:28] JodiS | BigD: do-duh-duh-duh [09:14:32] JodiS | :) [09:14:37] ---| User: *** phil___ is now known as fak3r [09:14:52] BigD | friends of hello kitty [09:15:00] jbrinley | http://www.adeliedesign.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/jon.png [09:15:04] jbrinley | ^ /me [09:15:07] mbklein | Did anyone notice the in-room minibar special order menu? "Trail Mix $7 / Intimacy Kit $12 / Reddi Whip $9" [09:15:07] * JodiS pulls open the FOAF again [09:15:13] BigD | this is how edsu get's ppl up to his room... [09:15:29] MrDys | whippits, aight [09:15:31] royt | jbrinley: that is *such* a good likeness [09:15:31] anarchivist | mbklein: yeah [09:15:33] fak3r | ctrl-R on my foaf [09:16:05] anarchivist | foaf.load() [09:16:36] fak3r | bear with us? lead with the positive! [09:16:39] JodiS | wiki page: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/LinkedData [09:16:41] BigD | this is some dude [09:16:55] JodiS | edsu: can you link to your slides at the wiki? [09:17:00] mbklein | mjg_: foaf-visualizer.org still thinks I'm you. [09:17:00] MrDys | that's the best pronounciation of 'talis' I've ever heard [09:17:11] jbrinley | the_t_in_that_font-- [09:17:12] anarchivist | i'm gad that my patch for enjoysthin.gs in foaf app works, even though i'm the only one using it [09:17:12] mjg_ | foaf-visualizer.org-- [09:17:18] mbklein | What's that font? [09:17:20] * lbjay steals ed's slide of the lod cloud [09:17:24] anarchivist | mbklein: coolvetica [09:17:39] mbklein | anarchivist++ [09:17:45] fak3r | that's a sweet font... [09:17:49] * jbrinley sees "creabed by..." [09:17:50] anarchivist | mbklein: no idea why i remember that [09:18:01] MrDys | the type nerd in me is annoyed by the kerning in that font [09:18:07] MrDys | but yes, it has character [09:18:15] BigD | isn't that the "Catch Me if You Can" font? [09:18:18] fak3r | those 't's blow me away! woot [09:18:21] anarchivist | gill_sans++ [09:18:25] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Reese, Terry: On my way to Providence [09:18:27] fak3r | BigD: right! [09:18:34] ---| ---> jjtuttle_ [n=jjtuttle@dli-020102.lib.ncsu.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:18:39] BigD | 70s++ [09:18:42] * jbrinley starts a fight with fak3r [09:18:54] mbklein | The lowercase y's are nice too. [09:19:27] rsinger | why did i sit in the back row? [09:19:30] MrDys | outlook_web_client-- [09:19:31] fak3r | it's a good test to see if you need glasses [09:19:37] ---| User: *** jjtuttle_ is now known as jjtuttle [09:19:54] anarchivist | rsinger: forget your tin ear, old man? [09:19:54] fak3r | jjtuttle: hey, sorry you're not here [09:20:02] rsinger | x-ray glasses to see through the guy's head in front of me [09:20:10] fak3r | jbrinley: "I want you to hit me as hard as you can..." [09:20:18] BigD | jjtuttle: usck for not coming! [09:20:24] jbrinley | rsinger: there's a spot in row 2 [09:20:24] edsu | glad that's over ... :) [09:20:31] rsinger | anarchivist: i can never understand what ian or any of my other coworkers say anyway [09:20:35] edsu | can i go to the bar now? [09:20:39] jbrinley | rsinger++ [09:20:40] jjtuttle | BigD: wasn't my choice. Statewide travel ban. [09:20:43] fak3r | is this going to be on the test? [09:20:46] fak3r | rsinger: ++ [09:20:49] edsu | JodiS: yeah, i can link the slides [09:20:52] BigD | jjtuttle: they impounded yer car? [09:21:04] anarchivist | edsu: i think mbklein ordered the intimacy kit to be sent down to the lod preconf [09:21:05] JodiS | thanks, edsu. nice job, btw! [09:21:07] BigD | it's worth it to pay yer own $ just to come see me [09:21:11] jjtuttle | vphill_: hey, what's up [09:21:13] JodiS | mbklein-- [09:21:18] BigD | now i just gotta cuddle with vphill_ [09:21:21] JodiS | anarchivist-- #for good measure [09:21:35] vphill_ | jjtuttle: nadda, [09:21:37] jjtuttle | well, give Jason Casden a big hug from me [09:22:00] mbklein | JodiS: :( [09:22:02] mbklein | :) [09:22:07] JodiS | :) [09:22:22] mbklein | anarchivist: This whole room will be filled with Reddi Whip by lunch. [09:22:26] anarchivist | the reddi whip weirded me out on the menu, mostly because i noticed it before i saw the "intimacy kit" [09:22:28] jtgorman_ | kgs++ [09:22:32] vphill_ | jjtuttle: he is sitting right in front of me, I could kick him... [09:22:33] jjtuttle | hey fak3r long time no see [09:22:34] * mbklein is now IRC-ing in Coolvetica [09:22:43] BigD | mbklein: I'm always full of rediwhip [09:22:50] anarchivist | mbklein: i want a room full of some sort of foaf-foam [09:22:51] fak3r | jjtuttle: I hear ya, saw declan last night right off the bat [09:22:52] MrDys | oh, jrochkind opted to sleep rather than to link data, and he sends his regards [09:23:05] fak3r | jjtuttle: ppl are talking about access being at PEI this year [09:23:22] mbklein | anarchivist: There's a combo called "Party All Night": Intimacy Kit, Reddi Whip, and a split of Champagne for $95. [09:23:29] BigD | fak3r: this might be the first access i miss [09:23:29] jjtuttle | fak3r: it's a little too small, if you ask me [09:23:33] BigD | friggin budget [09:23:58] * jtgorman_ is hoping to make Access this year since he didn't make code4lib [09:23:58] fak3r | jjtuttle: really [09:24:00] JodiS | jjtuttle: PEI too small for access? [09:24:12] vphill_ | jjtuttle: what no access? boo [09:24:14] BigD | JodiS: it's too small to live on [09:24:18] * JodiS wants to get BOTH to access AND PEI. Hopefully both at once this year [09:24:18] BigD | but fine for access [09:24:20] fak3r | BigD: this needs to all be online, skype, video conf - ppl contributing via IRC/Twitter/foo [09:24:20] anarchivist | ann_of_green_cabes++ [09:24:24] jbrinley | Access: the place for people who can't get into code4lib [09:24:24] jjtuttle | PEI is too small for conferences [09:24:25] anarchivist | ann_of_green_cables++ [09:24:25] mbklein | The only reason I got to come to code4lib is that I (a) drove, (b) paid my own registration, and (c) I'm bunking in with Scot (who actually got approved to attend) [09:24:34] JodiS | Scot++ #for sharing [09:24:39] anarchivist | Scot++ [09:24:41] JodiS | mbklein++ #for showing up [09:24:57] fak3r | dc:ftw! [09:25:17] edsu | JodiS: is it non-obvious how i linked them from the wiki? [09:25:18] dchud | jbrinley: i object. if i had to pick one, i'd pick access. [09:25:19] BigD | here's Ann: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2774225269/in/set-72157606811160009/ [09:25:25] dchud | more drinking. [09:25:35] fak3r | dchud: PEI is a great place [09:25:36] jbrinley | dchud: I jest. I've never been to Access. [09:25:43] rsinger | dchud: and fewer nerds [09:25:56] dchud | rsinger: not this year, i'm BACK baby [09:25:58] rsinger | all these g.d. nerds [09:25:59] ---| ---> bess [n=eos8d@wsip-70-164-25-16.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:26:09] dchud | fak3r: indeed! i can't wait to get up there [09:26:20] anarchivist | rsinger: watch it, four eyes [09:26:21] BigD | it is very pretty [09:26:27] mbklein | BigD: I like http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2775078812/in/set-72157606811160009/ :) [09:26:31] ---| <<-- jaron [n=jason@jaron.lib.ncsu.edu] has quit (Connection timed out) [09:26:31] jjtuttle | Access is sort of like c4l, except fewer geeks and more cute Canadian public librarians [09:26:32] dchud | jbrinley: this year would be a good first time to go... Mark Leggott is sure to put on a good show [09:26:36] mbklein | BigD: That's a good look for you. [09:26:48] jbrinley | when is Access? May? [09:26:55] * rsinger hands anarchivist a mirror [09:26:56] bess | jbrinley: October, I tink [09:26:57] anarchivist | BigD: http://flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2299726147/ [09:26:59] bess | think [09:27:03] BigD | jjtuttle, fak3r, and i were in PEI in August for a Fedora conf http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/sets/72157606811160009/ [09:27:03] fak3r | dchud: Mark Leggott is v.cool - he's got some ideas, making them happen [09:27:04] vphill_ | dchud: was talking with mark this week, they have some good stuff planne [09:27:10] dchud | access is in october this year i think [09:27:12] jbrinley | hmm, October may be a good time for a conference [09:27:17] anarchivist | BigD: i bet that was pretty wild [09:27:18] jbrinley | new fiscal year... [09:27:25] MrDys | a good time for a spoooooky conference [09:27:32] anarchivist | repositories_gone_wild-- [09:27:35] JodiS | edsu: yeah. I'd move the planning stuff to the bottom, put the agenda with links at the top. missed it the first time. [09:27:39] jtgorman_ | hmmm...if it's October it falls into the next fiscal year, which means I'll have to miss code4lib again...unless I want to pay out of pocket ... [09:27:39] rsinger | isnt it usually scheduled around canadian thanksgiving? [09:27:40] jtgorman_ | :( [09:27:44] dchud | jjtuttle: without access, we wouldn't even have a code4lib [09:27:53] edsu | JodiS: can you adjust it? [09:27:56] jjtuttle | access++ [09:27:56] rsinger | vancouver_harbor_cruise++ [09:27:58] * JodiS could do with a cute Canadian public librarian :) [09:28:02] JodiS | edsu: sure [09:28:03] rsinger | in_the_thick_fog++ [09:28:21] jtgorman_ | don't suppose they know where it'll be by July so I can get the plane tickets a couple of months ahead of time... [09:28:25] bess | JodiS: guybrarians++ [09:28:27] dchud | i paid my way here so i could get funding for access [09:28:31] jjtuttle | dchud: Hey, I wasn't knocking access! [09:28:33] * dchud keeps fingers crossed [09:28:36] JodiS | bess: gender not specified :) [09:28:50] dchud | jjtuttle: i am nearly as defensive about access as i am about detroit :P [09:28:51] bess | JodiS: fair enough. :) [09:28:54] JodiS | BigD: I prefer the next one of those :) [09:29:03] jtgorman_ | dchud: yeah, code4lib is probably the cheaper conference, at least for us folks south of the border [09:29:04] anarchivist | one day i'll be able to go to canada [09:29:10] jjtuttle | dchud: in which way does Detroit not suck? [09:29:16] anarchivist | detroit++ [09:29:24] fak3r | jjtuttle: nice pics, mine from PEI http://flickr.com/photos/fak3r/sets/72157607905125892/ [09:29:24] dchud | jjtuttle: you wanna take this outside? :) [09:29:26] rsinger | dchud: speaking of -- i'm wearing my access vancouver t-shirt right now in honor of it being the source of all this [09:29:28] ---| <--- vphill_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-29.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [09:29:35] bess | windsor++ [09:29:49] mbklein | bess: My daughter was reading "All-of-a-Kind Family" around the same time I got my job at the BPL. She wanted to know if I was going to be the new Library Lady. [09:29:50] dchud | rsinger: look up [09:29:51] jtgorman_ | jjtuttle: rock music? [09:30:03] bess | mbklein: awwww! [09:30:05] rsinger | artunit++ [09:30:06] jjtuttle | dchud: I'll be out there waiting for you, OK? Oh wait, some of us are too broke to get to Brown! [09:30:14] dchud | jjtuttle: haw! [09:30:19] BigD | i'm wearing my barcamp shirt so ppl will think i'm a hipster [09:30:29] rsinger | dchud: that was in edmonton, right? [09:30:36] dchud | detroit has more than its share of problems, but i remain fiercely loyal [09:30:36] BigD | i've got the hips for sure... [09:30:38] anarchivist | BigD: maybe you need to get some kewl glasses [09:30:45] bess | edmonton++ # E-ville! Represent! [09:30:49] BigD | anarchivist: excellent idea! [09:30:51] jjtuttle | fak3r: You took 1 whole picture at PEI? [09:30:53] dchud | rsinger: that was so long ago i don't remember. but it's from essex, ont [09:30:54] anarchivist | BigD's hips don't lie [09:31:02] fak3r | BigD: don't forget sunglasses in the daytime [09:31:02] rsinger | dchud: well, "duh" [09:31:09] rsinger | dchud: i mean where they were raffled off [09:31:27] dchud | er, that last slide wasn't exactly the four design rules of linked data, was it? [09:31:31] anarchivist | BigD++ [09:31:32] dchud | rsinger: i don't remember [09:31:34] BigD | $8 from home depot, baby [09:31:38] dchud | BigD is stylin' [09:31:56] fak3r | jjtuttle: had more pics, liked the beach ones best [09:32:13] BigD | fak3r: there's one picture on that page [09:32:22] BigD | how can it even be a set? ;) [09:32:24] dchud | they say that to me! both, actually [09:33:14] wtd | Non-information resources are "people and spaceships." I like examples like that. [09:33:47] anarchivist | a kitten is a non-information resource [09:33:57] anarchivist | ugh [09:34:07] anarchivist | now i have to work lolcats into my slides [09:34:10] rsinger | anarchivist: a cute and cuddly and delicious non-information resource [09:34:11] fak3r | BigD: sry, still new to cut/pasting hows this? http://flickr.com/photos/fak3r/sets/72157607905125892/ [09:34:23] dchud | anarchivist: no, you don't. really, you don't. [09:34:29] anarchivist | dchud: :) [09:34:31] dchud | didn't we wear that out in '07? [09:34:31] rsinger | wait, did i say delicious? [09:34:34] BigD | fak3r: still i pic [09:34:39] fak3r | hrmf, how do you scroll up in irissi [09:34:39] jbrinley | rsinger: rightly so [09:34:39] anarchivist | dchud: nevar 4get [09:34:42] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@138.210.8.79] has quit () [09:34:50] BigD | maybe i need to add u as a contact [09:35:00] anarchivist | i at least have a picture of a kitten [09:35:02] rsinger | jbrinley: good, i was afraid i left that out [09:35:42] dchud | oh, is that how you say "SIOC"? "shock"? that makes sense. [09:35:47] MrDys | fak3r: shift+pg up? [09:36:01] rsinger | dchud: yeah, it took ian telling me that to know, too [09:36:03] fak3r | BigD: it pulls up my set here. how about http://flickr.com/photos/fak3r/sets/72157607905125892/detail/ [09:36:06] BigD | dchud: i like that pronounciation! [09:36:10] dlovins | @google sioc [09:36:12] zoia | dlovins: Search took 0.18 seconds: sioc -project.org | Semantically-Interlinked Online Communities: ; Semantically-Interlinked Online Communities - Wikipedia, the free ...: ; Southern Illinois Orthopedic Center - SIOC: ; California State Information Officers Council: ; Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI (2 more messages) [09:36:18] anarchivist | sioc++ [09:36:22] * jbrinley always assumed "psy-ock" [09:36:34] fak3r | BigD: otherwise http://flickr.com/photos/fak3r/ -- PEI 3rd down on the right [09:36:35] * dchud assumed "ess eye oh see" [09:36:37] MrDys | psy_ops++ [09:36:45] BigD | fak3r: nope... add me as a contact? maybe you have a limit to friends only? [09:37:08] lbjay | whew, he was starting to overlap w/ my stuff [09:37:13] jtgorman_ | anarchivist: is it a free mutt kitten that will become like a small cougar but love cuddling your or an expensive pure-bred kitten that will take tons of money to treat some strange, difficult to pin down genetic issues who mostly ignores you? [09:37:20] jtgorman_ | s/love/loves/ [09:37:27] anarchivist | dchud, jbrinley : it's based on gaelic pronunciation, presumably because it was created in ireland [09:37:40] dchud | lbjay: i am kinda counting on all of you to explain things that i skip past rapidly in my slides [09:37:55] dchud | anarchivist: oh, right [09:38:01] BigD | it broke edsu's scripts! [09:38:04] * jtgorman_ latest response to "well, open source is like free kittens!"...kinda "closed source is like pure-bred kittens that costs lot of $$ and have genetic issues" wheee [09:38:11] * jbrinley needs to learn gealic [09:38:14] fak3r | BigD: bah, it was permissions. should be ok now [09:38:36] jbrinley | jtgorman_: but at least it's hypoallergenic! [09:38:39] BillDueber | jbrinley: gaelic??? [09:38:47] pmurray | So, have things gotten started in Providence, or is this just the typical Monday morning chatter? [09:39:00] MrDys | pmurray: oh it's on [09:39:10] jtgorman_ | jbrinley++ [09:39:13] BillDueber | pmurray: Pre-conf sessions [09:39:15] * anarchivist needs to figure out the rdf shit in drupal [09:39:18] dchud | i guess it would be hard to fit Accept: header examples on that slide [09:39:22] * BillDueber is still in beautiful Ann Arbor. [09:39:24] fak3r | pmurray: it's on like donkey kong [09:39:30] jbrinley | anarchivist: I'm hoping there's a breakout on that this afternoon [09:39:44] pmurray | Ah, I just saw reference to "examples on that slide" [09:39:44] anarchivist | jbrinley: there's a good chance there will be i presume [09:39:48] fak3r | jbrinley: anarchivist: I'd be up for that [09:39:53] jtgorman_ | "Doctor, our kitty starts howling uncontrollably when more than three people pet her, what can we do?" [09:39:57] * anarchivist tried to create his foaf file in drupal, but faied [09:40:13] jtgorman_ | "Tell everyone after the third person to go away or take the system down..." [09:40:14] * jbrinley wants to get New York with a web browser [09:40:18] * jtgorman_ does a tap dance [09:40:20] anarchivist | jtgorman_: sounds like what happens when BigD starts taking to me [09:40:31] edsu | dchud: they're there [09:40:40] JodiS | edsu: How's this now? http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/LinkedData [09:40:53] dchud | edsu: well there we go then [09:40:57] edsu | JodiS++ [09:42:30] edsu | much nicer [09:42:32] * jtgorman_ pictures hoards of geeks wandering around Providence going to buildings "Are you my meeting place?" [09:42:57] jtgorman_ | when do the pre-confs start? [09:43:00] ---| ---> michaeldb [n=michaeld@CPE0012170da427-CM000a739b087e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #code4lib [09:43:02] anarchivist | jtgorman_: now [09:43:10] anarchivist | or, they already have [09:43:15] jbrinley | jtgorman_: more specifically, 9:00 EST [09:43:17] fak3r | jtgorman_: -00:42 [09:43:18] jtgorman_ | anarchivist: ok, that's what I would have thought [09:43:40] jtgorman_ | anarchivist: just some of the emails make it sound like people still might be lost [09:43:47] bess | Is there any provision for adding RDF uris to traditional library formats, e.g., marc? [09:43:47] anarchivist | jtgorman_: yeah, one of them moved [09:44:07] jstroop | edsu: am I blocked from the attendees page? I was there earlier this morning, but my name wasn't getting parsed. I fixed, but am not showing up [09:44:09] JodiS | bess: good question [09:44:14] jbrinley | @marc 846 [09:44:16] zoia | jbrinley: unknown tag 846 [09:44:25] anarchivist | bess: yeah, sorta [09:44:25] jbrinley | @marc 856 [09:44:25] zoia | jbrinley: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (1 more message) [09:44:30] fak3r | jstroop: check the last scan - see when it kicked off [09:44:30] bess | I'm thinking that getting the catalogers to add rdf uris to things might solve a lot of our problems with cataloging recent stuff that doesn't have (and is unlikely ever to have) LC authority headings [09:44:37] JodiS | bess: still no way to distinguish various kinds of 856, IIRC [09:44:38] edsu | 856 =~ rdfs:seeAlso # pretty much [09:44:45] JodiS | bess: say more [09:44:52] rsinger | bess: this is one of the things RDA is supposed to be addressing [09:45:12] JodiS | "publishing this data" is really important. who takes responsibility for persistence? [09:45:18] JodiS | LC-- [09:45:25] lbjay | jstroop: what's your uri? [09:45:29] edsu | @uris MARC [09:45:30] mbklein | BigD: re: hipsters (took me a while to find the cartoon I was looking for): http://ohnochriso.blogspot.com/2009/01/cartoon-about-mission.html [09:45:31] zoia | edsu: no equivalent resources found [09:45:35] BillDueber | JodiS: The 856 is way underspecified -- there's no good way (other than local practice / out of bandwidth docs) to determine what type of "thing" the link is pointing to. [09:45:40] edsu | @uri MARC [09:45:42] zoia | edsu: DBpedia has URIs for... 1968 births - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marc_Anthony; 1887 births - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marc_Chagall; 1887 births - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marc_Mitscher; 1947 births - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marc_Bolan; 1984 births - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marc-Andr%C3%A9_Fleury; 1957 births - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marc_Almond; 1970 births - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marc_Rosset; 1st (1 more message) [09:45:47] edsu | d'oh :) [09:45:52] jstroop | lbjay: http://anearalone.com/foaf.rdf#me [09:45:53] fak3r | jstroop: last run was 9:41 [09:45:59] mjg_ | @uri shitty data format [09:46:01] zoia | mjg_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:46:21] mbklein | edsu: "...and THAT, class, is why we need URIs instead of just names." [09:46:28] rsinger | bess: rob styles has been working on this [09:46:29] royt | BillDueber: exactly, see [09:46:36] lbjay | jstroop: ok, i added you [09:46:41] jstroop | fak3r: yeah, I see. I made changes much earlier [09:46:47] fak3r | jstroop: I can see it, validates [09:46:47] jstroop | lbjay: thanks [09:46:59] dchud | can't we assume that 856u is implicit linking to a web 'resource' [09:47:03] rsinger | bess: i have too, but it's in my 10% time... thus unrealized [09:47:40] bess | rsinger: do you have a link to recommend about Rob's work? Or should I just google? I remember he gave a talk about rdf last year, but it wasn't on my radar much yet. And he had a code4lib journal article too, right? [09:47:48] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: The Code4Lib Journal - COLUMN: We Love Open Source Software. No, You Can't Have Our Code [09:48:01] ---| ---> Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has joined #code4lib [09:48:01] rsinger | bess: no, the article never materialized [09:48:06] dchud | i have an answer to this question in my slides [09:48:07] ---| ---> dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [09:48:10] Janusman | buenos dias all [09:48:13] rsinger | bess: never got past his editor or something [09:48:18] edsu | dchud: i think so [09:48:26] jbrinley | bess: but he did publish something else earlier (I don't remember where or when) [09:48:35] fak3r | dchud: distibuted network, caching data... [09:48:36] rsinger | bess: hang on, i have his preprint, i think [09:48:41] edsu | dchud: i played with creating links between records and tocs at lc a bit [09:48:45] bess | rsinger++ [09:48:50] BillDueber | UMich, in fact, has a policy of *throwing away* any 856u that isn't to full text. So, author pages, ToCs, etc. -- all gone. Ugh! [09:49:07] dchud | so if an 856u points to a web page that does linked-data style link-@rels, isn't that ideal? [09:49:11] BillDueber | royt++ # 856 analysis [09:49:20] anarchivist | charper++ [09:49:25] lbjay | iand++ [09:49:26] fak3r | no clapping allowed? [09:49:31] edsu | iand++ [09:49:33] anarchivist | fak3r++ [09:49:36] dchud | it's a little early for loud noises [09:49:40] BillDueber | dchud: Well, "ideal" would be being able to specify within the record what those thigns are, not having to create a web page to do that for us. [09:49:41] anarchivist | iand++ [09:50:09] MrDys | iand++ [09:50:20] mjg_ | charper++ # "an endless half-hour about nothing", awesome. [09:50:21] dchud | BillDueber: imho ideal would be if the page with the record itself were a linked data page [09:50:34] dlovins | "blathering about nothing" [09:50:34] royt | BillDueber: right, and if that is done consistently it might work. see [09:50:51] fak3r | jstroop: ok, I added http://anearalone.com/foaf.rdf#me to my foaf, let's see if it gets picked up next crawl [09:50:52] Janusman | has anyone made the opac itself be an rdf store? [09:51:00] mbklein | "Prefconf"++ [09:51:12] Janusman | or am I on pot? [09:51:12] dbs | BillDueber: some people here wanted me to strip non-fulltext 856's because Unicorn just shows "URL" for any 856u; fortunately I won that battle with the promise of a better system [09:51:13] Janusman | =) [09:51:14] jstroop | fak3r: thanks! [09:51:20] dchud | hrm, maybe i'll try to hack that into FBO today. if gsf hasn't already done that. [09:51:33] fak3r | jstroop: np, I just learned this last week too [09:51:38] Janusman | dbs: hah! love that "url" link =) [09:51:38] lbjay | good thing i'm following him then [09:51:40] BillDueber | dbs++ # for fighting (and winning) the good right [09:51:43] BillDueber | s/right/fight [09:51:45] edsu | edsu-- [09:51:55] JodiS | Could somebody ask iand to add his slides to http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/LinkedData [09:52:00] JodiS | <-- broken record [09:52:04] mbklein | dchud: Is "...if gsf hasn't already done that" one of those great passive aggressive ways to get gsf to do something? ;) [09:52:21] royt | JodiS++ [09:52:22] rsinger | bess: hold that karma, i haven't found it yet :) [09:52:22] dchud | mbklein: haw! i didn't mean it to be, but, yeah, i guess it might :) [09:52:29] anarchivist | mbklein: i usually use that construction with edsu [09:52:29] mbklein | JodiS++ # fighting for persistence [09:52:41] bess | here we go, this is exactly what I was wondering about [09:52:43] JodiS | dchud: wtf is a web 'resource'? [09:52:47] JodiS | persistence++ [09:52:58] mbklein | anarchivist: "...if edsu hasn't already talked gsf into doing that"? [09:53:02] * jtgorman_ looks at a email talking about how horrible it is that the Wall Street Journal is closing its internal library [09:53:21] jtgorman_ | with the phrase..."How do the "bean counters" in accounting think the journalists do their research?" [09:53:34] dchud | is it really true that dspace still, in 2009, doesn't speak marc? [09:53:46] MrDys | dchud: it speaks DC [09:53:54] edsu | i don't think dspace even installs :) [09:53:59] mbklein | jtgorman_: Google [09:54:00] anarchivist | edsu++ [09:54:01] ---| ---> Mike [n=mw_park@wsip-70-164-25-33.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:54:01] dchud | yeah, but - there are plugins for using other formats, right? [09:54:05] fak3r | edsu++ [09:54:12] mjg_ | JodiS: the usual answer is a web resource is something you HTTP GET and receive an HTTP 200 response for, or something. [09:54:18] jtgorman_ | ummm, they're journalist. Honestly, they should be able to do their own research. I mean, hopefully most of their research is primary source, with using some existing resources like ebsco etc [09:54:23] JodiS | mjg_: yeah, so what. [09:54:29] JodiS | mjg_: that's like "this is a piece of paper" [09:54:30] mbklein | edsu: That would be funny if it didn't make me cry. [09:54:32] jtgorman_ | if they're all waiting for librarians, that's a heck of a bottle neck [09:54:35] ---| User: *** Mike is now known as Guest90335 [09:54:41] JodiS | mjg_: I don't care about the format, I care about the content (in this case) [09:54:43] * anarchivist never waits for librarians [09:54:43] * mjg_ chucksle [09:54:47] JodiS | e.g.: ToC, full-text, ... [09:54:54] edsu | great metacrap question -- who asked that? [09:55:08] dchud | jtgorman_: comparative advantage means journalists source, verify and write, and librarians support the research phase of all of those. in theory. [09:55:18] dchud | or at least "traditionally" [09:55:41] fak3r | MARC format -- [09:55:53] jtgorman_ | dchud: yeah, I suspect it breaks down though...too few librarians and the ones that are there don't really perform much better than the journalists themselves [09:56:00] dchud | bah. for a 40+ year old format, MARC still kicks ass. [09:56:01] JodiS | problem with MARC is that it's not just a format. it's also a content standard. And more than that, no? [09:56:09] JodiS | dchud: indeed [09:56:14] bess | it doesn't need to be either-or [09:56:31] bess | you could still catalog in marc and expose authority records in rdf. those things aren't mutually exclusive, right? [09:56:33] mjg_ | JodiS: yeah, I didn't catch the context of the conversation. just kind of barged in. :) [09:56:35] fak3r | dchud: guess I just need it to be converted so it can be more open/interlopable [09:56:38] ---| ---> benliles [n=benliles@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:56:38] anarchivist | dchud: it kicks ass in the same way that pdp-11s kick ass [09:56:41] jtgorman_ | dchud: I mean, I could see where it could be a great combination, but I'm not convinced that WSJ quality is radically going to drop with the removal of librarias either [09:56:47] mbklein | mjg_: Go look for a non- reference to yourself in http://michael.is.outoffoc.us/michael/foaf.rdf#me :) [09:56:49] MrDys | anarchivist: for playing Adventure? [09:56:49] dchud | i'm with bess. the more formats for more purposes, the better [09:56:53] anarchivist | MrDys++ [09:56:53] lbjay | lbjay-- # pre-emptive for when i stand up and shout "amen, brother!" [09:56:56] JodiS | mjg_: always barge in! :) Just saying, 856 isn't what we need it to be. as royt's been saying for years... [09:56:58] fak3r | anarchivist++ for pdp comment [09:56:59] ---| User: *** Janusman is now known as Janusman_away [09:57:06] anarchivist | "take 245" [09:57:07] ---| ---> cazzerson [n=cazzerso@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:57:08] * jtgorman_ figures most journalists will do a check w/ lexis nexis, maybe ebsco... [09:57:31] mbklein | dchud: Sounds like a call for more unapi-ification. [09:57:35] JodiS | dchud: was in a great room at ASIST, with memories of Henriette Avram and others [09:57:38] * dchud grumbles something about making that argument in 2001 about dspace [09:57:48] JodiS | dchud; what argument? [09:57:48] fak3r | mjg_: unapi ftw, got a drupal port going? [09:57:50] dchud | mbklein: i dunno about that [09:57:52] edsu | http://minds.wisconsin.edu/handle/1793/31735 [09:57:54] * dlovins thinks authorities as linked data is a cool topic. Why say "an endless half hour about nothing?" [09:57:56] * jbrinley figures most journalists write what they want and rely on the editors to fact check (and the editors rely on the journalists to fact check) [09:58:05] jtgorman_ | dchud: I have to wonder if the librarians looked at all the settlements/court cases/costs for when a journalist has printed a mistake or bad info and demonstrated they had not used the library in those cases [09:58:12] mjg_ | edsu++ [09:58:12] anarchivist | dlovins: charper's just being self-deprecating [09:58:14] jtgorman_ | jbrinley: yeah, that sounds about right [09:58:14] ---| <<-- Guest90335 [n=mw_park@wsip-70-164-25-33.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [09:58:16] anarchivist | dlovins: he's a smart dude [09:58:25] dchud | jtgorman_: which "the librarians" ? [09:58:26] ---| ---> DHahn [i=DHahn@pptp-0012.vpn.tamu.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:58:26] mjg_ | fak3r: can't say I do, sadly [09:58:28] anarchivist | dlovins: one of my favorite colleagues in the ny area [09:58:31] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@wsip-70-164-25-33.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:58:36] jtgorman_ | dchud: that work at WSJ ;) [09:58:39] JodiS | dchud: my main beef with MARC is that it's used to refer to multiple things (content, format). So it's hard to talk about changing the data exchange format w/o riling up the "metadata = Dublin Core = useless" [09:58:41] mbklein | RIP lcsh.info [09:58:52] fak3r | mjg_: how hard would it be? I'd like to take a closer look at the WP plugin, it 'just works' on my site [09:59:00] * anarchivist pours some on the curb 4 his dead linked data homies [09:59:03] JodiS | mbklein: see, I'm not sure "peace" is what's called for there [09:59:27] mjg_ | fak3r: hard for me to say not knowing drupal very well, but the wp plugin is pretty dumb and simple. [09:59:41] jbrinley | mjg_, fak3r: I might look into porting it soon [09:59:49] fak3r | mjg_: sounds like something I could try [09:59:54] jbrinley | mjg_, fak3r: or would be interested in collaborating on it [10:00:02] fak3r | jbrinley: cool, I'd like to take a look at it...yes [10:00:07] anarchivist | mjg_, fak3r, jbrinley: me too [10:00:22] MrDys | what about something like MusicBrainz? how is that less authoritative than these initiatives? [10:00:23] ---| User: *** Janusman_away is now known as Janusman [10:00:25] jtgorman_ | JodiS: one of my main beefs is the term is used to describe formats that are not compatible... ;) [10:00:26] anarchivist | someone turn off the crickets, yo [10:00:36] bess | MusicBrainz++ [10:00:40] mjg_ | crickets: ALWAYS ON [10:00:40] mbklein | JodiS: How about "lcsh.info is dead! Long live lcsh.info!" [10:00:49] JodiS | mbklein++ #I like that one :) [10:00:50] fak3r | MrDys: good question, I think it's just a matter of jumping in, first one in rules [10:00:51] jtgorman_ | JodiS: rather like when someone gives me an "XML" file with no more description than that [10:00:52] BigD | mpark left me at the airport [10:00:54] JodiS | mbklein: if only [10:00:59] anarchivist | MrDys: it's not, which is the point that charper is kinda skipping oer [10:01:03] anarchivist | BigD: i would too [10:01:06] * fak3r liked the crickets sound, again pls? [10:01:38] dlovins | anarchavist: I just think it's unhelpful, rhetorically speaking, to encourage people to tune out. [10:01:45] anarchivist | dlovins: i agree [10:01:53] jtgorman_ | JodiS: although at least usually "XML" files parse so I can run some scripts to try to analyze it...the "MARC" files times don't even parse using the common MARC standards to be annoying. [10:01:59] anarchivist | MrDys: http://www.scharffe.fr/presentations/minerva-workshop-semantics-in-the-easaier-freamwork.pdf [10:02:09] JodiS | edsu++ #was looking for that authorities link [10:02:15] dlovins | anarchavist: I'm sure he's a great colleague though. I need to get to know him better. [10:02:17] mbklein | What's charper's job @ NYPL? [10:02:24] anarchivist | mbklein: not at NYPL, at NYU [10:02:32] anarchivist | mbklein: metadata services librarian i think is his title [10:02:50] dlovins | Do people at NYPL really pronounce the acronym as "nipple"? [10:02:52] mbklein | anarchivist: Oops. I knew that, my fingers just automatically go to "PL" after typing "NY" [10:02:56] anarchivist | mbklein: he gathered a bunch of people together at a bar a week and a half ago for "unix time" [10:02:58] dchud | there's something in charper's manner of speaking that makes me tune in and pay close attention [10:02:59] mjg_ | Metacrap Librarian [10:03:01] JodiS | integrating "on the fly" is not a phrase I'd use with catalogers. "integrating programmatically" maybe [10:03:01] mbklein | dlovins++ [10:03:07] anarchivist | dlovins: sometimes :) [10:03:12] * anarchivist is a complicated format [10:03:20] JodiS | though, we need MLS to mean you understand what "programmatically" means [10:03:22] MrDys | anarchivist++ awesome [10:03:22] * JodiS weeps [10:03:22] jbrinley | JodiS++ # good distinction [10:03:29] anarchivist | dlovins: hey, we should actually meet, seeing as tho we're both on that RLG working group together [10:03:32] MrDys | anarchivist: seems academic, but awesome nonetheless [10:03:40] mjg_ | charper++ [10:03:42] anarchivist | MrDys: yeah, it's really awesome [10:03:50] dchud | nicely done! [10:04:02] JodiS | charper: don't hate your audience. it's not nice. I'm with dlovins on that one (I think) [10:04:07] dlovins | anarchavist: See you at the coffee break? [10:04:26] anarchivist | dlovins: sure [10:04:28] JodiS | MrDys: do you contribute to MusicBrainz? [10:04:39] MrDys | JodiS: I have, yes [10:04:43] * jtgorman_ pictures charper yelling like a drill sarg now [10:04:53] * anarchivist hopes MrDys does a talk next year called "insane in the MusicBrainz" [10:04:56] JodiS | dchud: he's got great vocal quality. also good things to say. [10:05:17] jbrinley | MrDys, anarchivist: or a lightning talk later this week [10:05:19] * JodiS hopes MrDys does a lightning talk about MusicBrainz [10:05:23] dchud | JodiS: two great tastes that taste great together [10:05:30] JodiS | :) [10:05:51] jtgorman_ | insane_in_the_musicbrainz++ [10:05:56] BigD | anarchivist: didn't everyone go to a bar for 1234567890 day? [10:06:11] anarchivist | BigD: yeah, charper organized it [10:07:00] anarchivist | BigD: that night was pretty amazing - i had one of my first quintessentially new york experiences that night [10:07:04] dchud | funny, there's no 'h' in psycinfo [10:07:05] * anarchivist puked on the subway on the way home [10:07:22] mjg_ | good times. [10:07:25] mbklein | anarchivist: That *is* quintessentially New York! [10:07:34] anarchivist | mbklein: i know! [10:07:34] rsinger | anarchivist: i really am very proud of you [10:07:54] anarchivist | rsinger: yeah, you and royt seemed to really appreciate that [10:08:15] anarchivist | apparently i called one of my friends twice to ask how to get back to brooklyn when i left the bar [10:08:34] dchud | bess++ [10:09:00] anarchivist | even though i was near the W 4th stop which is totally easy to get to [10:09:35] ---| <<-- Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:09:48] rsinger | i fear and loathe trains that didn't even exist when i lived there [10:09:52] jbrinley | algorhythms++ [10:09:52] cazzerson | fun. My first New York experience involved (drunkenly) leaving my wallet in a cab, only to have it show up in my parents' mailbox 6 weeks later. [10:09:58] mjg_ | algorhythms! [10:10:13] bess | algorhythms: oh, that's the perfect name for an rdf-crawler for music branz [10:10:15] rsinger | math_rock [10:10:19] anarchivist | bess++ [10:10:21] rsinger | @uri math rock [10:10:22] MrDys | rsinger++ [10:10:22] zoia | rsinger: DBpedia has URIs for... Alternative music - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Math_rock [10:10:23] * jbrinley always thinks "Al Gore" Rhythms when he sees "algorithm" [10:10:26] mjg_ | @band add Algorhythms [10:10:26] zoia | mjg_: Band 'Algorhythms' added to list [10:10:29] fak3r | math_rock++ [10:10:50] mbklein | @google algorhythm [10:10:53] zoia | mbklein: Search took 0.20 seconds: Algorhythm Records: ; algorhythm: ; Algorhythm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Algorhythm: ; AlgoRhythm Technologies: ; YouTube - algorhythm's Channel: (2 more messages) [10:11:01] edsu | looks like the network isn't routing http traffic not on port 80? [10:11:17] ---| ---> Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has joined #code4lib [10:11:26] MrDys | did we ever figure out what charper's position is at NYU? [10:11:32] JodiS | Are there any copy catalogers here? Does Corey's approach seem good enough? I hear that some libraries are very choosy about the people they get data from. [10:11:37] rsinger | MrDys: metadata librarian [10:11:50] anarchivist | shit, this keeps reminding me that i need to bug people at the met about submitting a joint session for DC2009 [10:11:53] * dchud holds breath [10:11:53] * jbrinley manages copy catalogers for a year [10:12:05] dchud | "how do we make use of this" [10:12:06] JodiS | Would rather Corey talk about FOAF for trust profiles for where you pull data from [10:12:19] JodiS | again, control=good in cataloging world [10:12:30] BigD | anarchivist: sorry, i'm having cog dis trying to listen and keep up. congrats on puking! ? ;) [10:12:35] anarchivist | JodiS: see, this is more interesting to me in terms of cataloging "unique" materials like rare books or archival collections [10:12:36] bess | JodiS: we've been fighting this battle. At UVA they're getting a lot more willing to consider non-traditional data sources the more short-staffed they get. One silver lining of the economic collapse? [10:12:39] rsinger | JodiS: why couldn't our same structures exist? [10:12:40] anarchivist | BigD++ [10:12:53] JodiS | rsinger: sure. same structures [10:13:00] edsu | bess: yeah i think so [10:13:05] dlovins | Al-Khwarizmi++ [10:13:06] rsinger | JodiS: e.g. a very large quasi non-profit entity "blessing" the data? [10:13:10] JodiS | rsinger: I'm talking about the way we talk about this [10:13:15] mjg_ | man, I wish I were cool enough to puke. [10:13:19] mbklein | MrDys: "Metadata Services Librarian", according to http://library.nyu.edu/about/department.html#technicalsvcs [10:13:21] bess | JodiS: e.g., maybe we could grab data from IMDB instead of actually watching every single film ourselves and writing 100% original description [10:13:32] JodiS | bess: we already do. just usually by hand [10:13:52] JodiS | rsinger: want it to be clear to catalogers that YOU CAN KEEP CONTROL. explain that there are technological ways to do that [10:13:56] bess | JodiS: we don't yet, but our music librarians are very excited about dbpedia and music brainz [10:13:57] rsinger | bess: or, have nightly "movie nights" in the library and crowdsource it from the twitter backchannel [10:14:10] fak3r | lost slides: it's always in the last place you look [10:14:18] JodiS | corey_harper-- #good things to say, would be even better with attention to presentation skills [10:14:22] dchud | ...and then in october 2008, major portions of the LOD cloud were nationalized, and sold to goldman sachs... [10:14:25] bess | JodiS: and our video catalogers are getting more excited as they feel more pressure to be able to catalog new acquisitions quickly. [10:14:29] * lbjay is going to show that graph too. nobody panic. [10:14:36] * dchud too [10:14:40] bess | rsinger++ # great idea! [10:14:46] MrDys | bess: go with freebase. IMDB is a pain to scrape and freebase is consuming most IMDB data anyway [10:14:49] JodiS | anarchivist: want to hear more about unique materials... how does copy cataloging help then. oh... you must mean something else... [10:14:51] * JodiS is confused [10:14:58] MrDys | (which is actaully what I'm going to talk about on wednesday) [10:14:59] JodiS | bess: glad to hear that [10:15:03] bess | MrDys++ # going off to look at freebase [10:15:12] anarchivist | JodiS: yeah, copycataloging doesn't but there are certain data elements that can/should be shared [10:15:14] JodiS | rsinger++ [10:15:30] anarchivist | JodiS: like, say, biographical information about creators of archival collections [10:15:40] JodiS | anarchivist: ok, that makes PLENTY of sense [10:15:48] mbklein | freebase++ # especially with parallax [10:16:16] JodiS | jbrinley: "how to talk to catalogers" would be a really useful topic, for me [10:16:26] rsinger | JodiS: so let's just say "untrusted sources" are used for augmentation [10:16:26] ---| ---> akorphan [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4257bffe5974d2d9] has joined #code4lib [10:16:31] anarchivist | JodiS: yeah, basically every institution will want to write their own bios, but they shoudn't have to and they should be able to interrelate them [10:16:42] jbrinley | JodiS: I never quite figured it out, to be honest [10:16:49] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@wsip-70-164-25-33.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [10:17:01] fak3r | oh, so now we can clap? [10:17:02] mjg_ | the room wakes up at 10:15am [10:17:03] dchud | why was everyone afraid to clap? [10:17:04] JodiS | odd that I hadn't run into http://rdvocab.info/Elements.rdf before [10:17:06] dchud | i will clap. [10:17:07] rsinger | JodiS: but you're beginning to see sources like wikipedia begin to be 'accepted' [10:17:09] BigD | JodiS: or just wait a few years and they'll all be gone? ;) [10:17:11] mjg_ | my hands are still drunk. [10:17:16] akorphan | Clapping has occurred. [10:17:16] rsinger | dchud: the lone, sarcastic clap? [10:17:33] fak3r | rsinger: that slow clap. . . [10:17:33] akorphan | I missed most of that presentation trying to get on IRC. [10:17:33] anarchivist | swedes++ [10:17:34] mbklein | rsinger: CLAP.....CLAP.....CLAP [10:17:39] fak3r | akorphan: nice [10:17:43] BigD | dchud: we all broke our hands [10:18:01] fak3r | dchud: I'm shaking with my left hand tonight [10:18:08] ---| ---> scolford [i=8a10400b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83a2c49ef11560ab] has joined #code4lib [10:18:15] bess | MrDys: I'm very much looking forward to your talk. Freebase looks awesome. I'm intrigued and I wish to learn more. [10:18:15] dchud | fak3r: perfect! [10:18:22] JodiS | BigD: no, we need catalogers and cataloging. The "going away" joke just causes misunderstanding, retrenchment, ... [10:18:55] MrDys | bess: I'll try to make it interesting [10:19:11] BigD | JodiS: are you calling me insensitive? i've heard that word... could you define it for me? ;) [10:19:17] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@m0e0f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit () [10:19:18] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Zimmerman, Peter: “In tough times, creative pursuits stage a revival” || del.icio.us: wiki.dbpedia.org : About [10:19:32] JodiS | BigD: :P [10:19:46] rsinger | JodiS: i guess i think it's a much better use of resources to use catalogers to find and vet resources rather than copy catalog, don't you? [10:19:48] BigD | JodiS: yes, we need excellent cataloging. we don't need 400 excellent cataloging depts [10:20:16] JodiS | rsinger: yes, but WE STILL NEED CATALOGERS [10:20:18] lbjay | rsinger: you should make robcaSSon switch seats with you. apparently he's really sick. [10:20:44] * robcaSSon already licked the coffee spout [10:20:52] anarchivist | robcaSSon++ [10:21:09] * rsinger goes to refill cup! [10:21:29] bess | BigD: I disagree. We do need 400 excellent cataloging departments. We do NOT need 400 excellent cataloging departments whose output is only used by their local institution. Librarians are good at describing resources and organizing concepts, and they should be doing it in public, not only in library institutions. [10:21:48] fak3r | bess++ [10:21:52] rsinger | JodiS: i don't argue with that -- assuming they're going to be used more than t0rr3nt drones [10:21:54] JodiS | FRBR count: 2 [10:21:56] mbklein | JodiS: So what's the best way to get the old-school catalogers (as a group -- I understand individuals vary) to understand and accept that they need to move out of their comfort zones to avoid being left behind, without making them feel like they're being left behind anyway? I haven't found that sweet spot yet. [10:22:00] bess | If we ever truly get the semantic web it's going to be because all the catalogers are unleashed on the larger web [10:22:04] BigD | bess: i agree with all of that except 400 [10:22:17] JodiS | mbklein: "talking to catalogers"? [10:22:22] jbrinley | mbklein: use pictures of kittens? [10:22:25] lbjay | where is jrock? [10:22:34] JodiS | mbklein: understand their perspective, what they do, why they are comfortable? [10:22:39] jbrinley | lbjay: sleeping in, I think [10:22:45] MrDys | lbjay: yeah he's sleepin [10:22:58] JodiS | mbklein: find what motivates them? tech people mind being "left behind". Most others expect it. [10:22:59] fak3r | I think just a matter of using oai and such is what needs to happen - start sharing, if others follow - good [10:23:02] JodiS | sleep++ [10:23:03] bess | mbklein: find a carrot. For me that's been "hey you know how everyone complains that you take a month to catalog a new video? What if we could shorten that and let you focus only on genuinely weird stuff?" [10:23:04] mbklein | JodiS: And I've tried. I talk to our tech. services people a LOT about how to make our cataloging practices more relevant to the web services we're trying to provide. They act like I'm there to poke them with sharp objects. [10:23:10] MrDys | lbjay: he'll be at the zotero session in the afternoon [10:23:18] JodiS | mbklein: try feathers next time [10:23:33] mbklein | JodiS: But I *didn't* bring any sharp objects! [10:23:46] lbjay | @dunno add try feathers next time [10:23:46] JodiS | mbklein: maybe your shadow had them :) [10:23:48] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #297 added. [10:23:58] akorphan | has anyone thought through linked data use cases beyond "let's accrue all the information we can and see what comes up"? [10:23:58] zoia | akorphan: turn it up! [10:24:02] JodiS | bess: "partnering with catalogers" would be a nice lightning talk [10:24:03] fak3r | mbklein: go around them? (not that I'd condone that) [10:24:07] mbklein | bess: I think you've just nailed the difference between academic librarians and civil servant librarians. [10:24:07] akorphan | (not meant as a criticism) [10:24:10] JodiS | akorphan: good question! [10:24:19] JodiS | akorphan: and you're not the only one to ask that [10:24:50] akorphan | I used to teach at a high school, and I was thinking to myself, how would I make this kind of thing useful to my former students? [10:24:53] BigD | bess: i rescind my objection to 400 if you apply smart catalogers to the entire web! [10:24:54] akorphan | THen I started wondering what "useful" meant. [10:24:59] lbjay | @dunno add your query has been filtered by my metacrap detector [10:24:59] MrDys | huh. I didn't realize that MusicBrainz deprecated their RDF webservice... [10:25:00] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #298 added. [10:25:13] bess | MrDys: what? They did? That's not good. [10:25:28] jtgorman_ | MrDys: Are they replacing it with something? [10:25:30] MrDys | bess: they have their own XML format...so you could transform it, but it's not native RDF anymore [10:25:37] MrDys | http://musicbrainz.org/ws/1/release/d1bdfdbd-d51a-4bcd-b6ca-67d114d3560f?type=xml&inc=url-rels+artist-rels [10:25:40] fak3r | MrDys: strange, why? [10:25:59] mbklein | Wait...Once all the information is machine readable, what will they need us for? [10:26:06] MrDys | "The RDF Web Service predates the term Web Service and was developed before best practices for Web Services had been established. Consequently the Web Service is not as coherent, concise and easy to use as the XML Web Service." [10:26:12] fak3r | mbklein: that's why I run servers ;) [10:26:14] JodiS | love it when people admit the rough edges to their work in progress. keeping_it_real++ [10:26:28] wickr | is something like Freebase taking in the musicbrainz data? I know that Last.fm/AS is using it, but it's unclear if there's much two-way sharing [10:26:36] akorphan | Some day the self-aware RDF aggregators will rise up and conquer their human masters. [10:26:45] MrDys | wickr: I believe it is [10:26:45] JodiS | akorphan: what does "useful" mean, do you think? [10:26:46] lbjay | "Please feel my rough edges" [10:26:53] fak3r | wickr: that's what I don't see, the two way so that data could/would be mirrored automcatically [10:26:53] JodiS | lbjay-- [10:26:55] anarchivist | poster.xpi++ [10:26:55] akorphan | That's the question. I'm not sure. [10:27:05] anarchivist | my ruff edges: let me show u dem [10:27:07] akorphan | To a student: maybe something that would help facilitate research for a term paper? [10:27:09] fak3r | 404, rough edges, this is not pretty, sorry about this.. [10:27:11] cazzerson | akorphan: this all does seem like prime material for some genetic algorithms... [10:27:12] * mbklein throws candy wrappers at the back of lbjay's head [10:27:15] MrDys | wickr: http://www.freebase.com/view/user/mwcl_musicbrainz [10:27:16] akorphan | or get study information for calculus [10:27:34] mbklein | 5059476++ [10:27:34] JodiS | akorphan: "only connect" is one aphorism. pulling in info to make humans not have to go looking... [10:27:37] fak3r | ooo, big drop shadow! how high up is that term? [10:27:38] MrDys | wickr: the bot probably needs rewritten [10:28:07] JodiS | "semantic web agent" [10:28:34] lbjay | again, i'll be showing this same example [10:28:42] thePersonForm | d [10:28:45] akorphan | JodiS: The main use case I am thinking of is the ability to pull things together. But does the presence of an ontology suggest other modes of use for people like high school students? [10:28:49] dchud | akorphan: i'd like to think my 12pm talk will describe some other use cases [10:28:50] BigD | what's a [10:28:59] dchud | you tell me :) [10:29:02] rsinger | and this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the semantic web just doesn't work [10:29:09] anarchivist | rsinger-- [10:29:10] akorphan | dchud: Ooh, sounds good. [10:29:15] mbklein | BigD: It's on the room service menu right after the Reddi Whip. [10:29:16] cazzerson | maybe a linked data graph can be leveraged to assign reputation scores to web resources [10:29:20] anarchivist | mbklein-- [10:29:31] JodiS | akorphan: an ontology presumes that somebody has organized the info in a way that makes sense to them. insert justification about 'cognitive theory' 'place to hang new knowledge' 'framework' etc [10:29:33] bess | rsinger++ # thank you for the article [10:29:36] anarchivist | cazzerson: yeah, the web of trust stuff is pretty fucking fascinating [10:29:45] JodiS | rsinger: "just doesn't work"? or "doesn't just work"? [10:29:49] anarchivist | cazzerson: my guess is that it would make catalogers' heads explode [10:30:00] rsinger | bess: yeah, i hope there's something useful in there [10:30:12] JodiS | anarchivist: I really don't think so [10:30:32] JodiS | anarchivist: there are levels of catalogers for OCLC cataloging [10:30:38] dchud | anarchivist: my guess is that if half this room were full of catalogers, it'd be far more likely that they could explode our heads :P [10:30:46] * dchud flashes on scanners [10:30:47] BigD | JodiS: is it like levels in WoW? [10:30:48] JodiS | exploding_heads-- [10:30:49] * anarchivist is an ex-cataloger [10:30:57] JodiS | BigD: lol [10:31:00] fak3r | jstroop: you're on the list now http://inkdroid.org/c4l2009/attendees [10:31:09] cazzerson | I would be more concerned with small data producers getting marginalized by massively popular/trusted producers [10:31:13] anarchivist | jstroop++ [10:31:15] jbrinley | BigD: yes, very much so [10:31:27] BigD | i have 10000 mp3s and 45000 pictures - so I'm a cataloger [10:31:28] BigD | ;) [10:31:29] JodiS | anarchivist: one straightforward proof of concept would be taking OCLC cataloging levels and transforming that into a FOAF web of trust service [10:31:35] mbklein | BigD: /cast +3 FRBRization Of The Infinite [10:31:41] BigD | fireball! [10:31:47] jbrinley | BigD: you're a level 8 cataloger [10:31:49] anarchivist | JodiS: too bad we can't bug the OCLC people right now about that :) [10:31:58] wickr | lightning bolt! [10:32:12] mbklein | Leeeeeroooy Jeeeeennnnkiiiiins! [10:32:17] cazzerson | jodis: it could eliminate the need for catalogers to leave post-its of unworthy oclc contributors on their cube walls [10:32:18] fak3r | mbklein++ [10:32:18] JodiS | open source project ofr turning ILSs into linked data?! [10:32:19] * anarchivist imagines a cataloging LARP. ugh [10:32:22] MrDys | this preconf needs to end with a symbolic funeral procession for lcsh.info [10:32:35] JodiS | cazzerson: is that real, or a myth? [10:32:35] anarchivist | MrDys: and then a good ol' irish wake [10:32:42] cazzerson | I've seen it [10:32:42] * lbjay continues to massage his slides [10:32:42] * fak3r wants to create his own lcsh.info [10:32:45] anarchivist | JodiS: i've seen it too [10:32:59] akorphan | anarchivist: I think my brain is bleeding. [10:32:59] * lbjay waits for the "rough edges" jokes... [10:33:04] anarchivist | JodiS: in fact, when i worked at pr*q**st we had such a list [10:33:07] mbklein | lbjay: Watch it. You're laying yourself open for another Reddi Whip joke. [10:33:21] fak3r | lib of congress takes it on the chin! [10:33:29] JodiS | anarchivist: I agree with bess. Give catalogers something they already know that they want. [10:33:43] fak3r | ok, everytime the speaker says 'library of congress' we drink [10:33:46] fak3r | coffee [10:33:48] JodiS | "ooh, shiny new technology", "great potential", "keeping up" isn't going to cut it [10:33:58] lbjay | @ana Library of Coffee [10:34:00] zoia | lbjay: Coo! Fiery baffler [10:34:00] JodiS | overcaffinated #c4l09 [10:34:02] anarchivist | JodiS: yeah, i've been talking to some of the archivists about this [10:34:09] mbklein | LOC vs. KBSE: Steel Cage Deathmatch [10:34:12] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-67ba37e3fc62f1d8] has joined #code4lib [10:34:14] JodiS | anarchivist: which is why you rock! [10:34:16] fak3r | "take advantage of the linked data cloud" - OK, how ? [10:34:37] jbrinley | @ana LOC vs. KBSE: Steel Cage Deathmatch [10:34:38] akorphan | I wonder if anyone has analyzed the similarities/differences between how catalogers view metadata and how library coders/db jockeys do. [10:34:38] zoia | jbrinley: Toadless vegetable checks [10:34:43] anarchivist | JodiS: i want to bug bradw, who is here this week about getting archivists toolkit to ingest RDF vocabs [10:34:50] BigD | swedish pizza? ew [10:34:57] anarchivist | BigD-- [10:34:59] fak3r | won't work for pizza, but beer and pizza? [10:35:03] JodiS | @quote add "Pizza is below minimum wage." [10:35:04] zoia | JodiS: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [10:35:10] edsu | should i go up there? i'm afraid of rotten fruit [10:35:25] BigD | anarchivist: bradw's at the oclc preconf [10:35:26] mbklein | BigD: You don't like gravlax on your 'za? [10:35:29] lbjay | akorphan: s/jockey/bullrider/ # I'm 6'3" & 200 lbs [10:35:30] BigD | lozer [10:35:34] anarchivist | BigD: his loss, man [10:35:42] BigD | totally [10:35:48] akorphan | lbjay: Svelte. [10:35:51] BigD | and he's too old to know what IRC is [10:35:53] dchud | edsu: we brought rotten vegetables, so don't worry about the fruit [10:35:55] anarchivist | BigD: hahaha [10:36:00] mbklein | @ana swedish pizza and beer [10:36:01] zoia | mbklein: Prized haze bawdiness [10:36:08] fak3r | blog not very active, way to lead with the positive [10:36:49] JodiS | @quote add "Pizza is below minimum wage." [10:36:50] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Quote #1714 added. [10:36:56] anarchivist | i wish i was motivated to write a script to crawl the foafs so i could graph interests [10:37:24] mbklein | Tunnel to it, edsu! [10:37:46] akorphan | re: foaf: I'm just never sure how web accessible I really want to be. [10:37:47] anarchivist | sensible? us government? [10:37:48] mbklein | If you can get out on port 22 (which you can from here), you can get to any port you need. [10:38:01] fak3r | mbklein: tunnel via ssh [10:38:03] bess | mbklein++ # I love that trick. [10:38:09] akorphan | though the book raffle is a motivator.... [10:38:10] mbklein | fak3r: Yep. [10:38:20] anarchivist | akorphan: you already are - JodiS made a pretty minimal foaf profile, which is a good example [10:38:31] ---| User: *** gsf is now known as gsf_ [10:38:31] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@m320f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [10:38:33] mbklein | akorphan: Nowhere in the raffle rules does it require your foaf to be *accurate* [10:38:36] JodiS | anarchivist: AT ingesting RDF makes sense [10:38:41] anarchivist | JodiS: i know [10:38:44] akorphan | mbklein: good point. [10:38:55] mbklein | edsü [10:38:55] JodiS | anarchivist: is my profile showing up on the crawl? [10:39:02] akorphan | My frequent shopper card at my local grocery is in the name of "Robert Pensioner" [10:39:04] fak3r | sweedish keyboards can't scale? [10:39:13] mjg_ | "now with more umlauts!" [10:39:22] lbjay | "Where's the @dick key?" [10:39:28] JodiS | @later tell jrochkind Could you please add http://blog.libris.kb.se/semweb/ to the planet? [10:39:28] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. [10:39:29] dchud | wow - piles of washcloths in the bathrooms instead of paper towels. nice. [10:39:36] anarchivist | JodiS: and i'm pushing back on SAA to issue a recently released thesaurus as structured data [10:39:43] ---| User: *** gsf_ is now known as gsf [10:39:45] JodiS | anarchivist: saw that! PDF-- [10:39:51] lbjay | gsf: gsf! [10:39:55] gsf | others having trouble connecting direct to freenode? [10:40:00] akorphan | yes! [10:40:02] gsf | lbjay! [10:40:03] dchud | note to speakers: hide your toolbars [10:40:29] * BigD turns off stumbleupon... [10:40:30] ---| <--- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@m320f36d0.tmodns.net] has left #code4lib () [10:40:44] JodiS | Could somebody ask anders to add his slides to http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/LinkedData [10:40:59] BigD | JodiS: do you have a script for that? ;) [10:41:09] shoe | how's wifi at the conference? [10:41:12] JodiS | hey shoe! [10:41:29] BigD | shoe: not bad, but blocks high ports [10:41:29] jbrinley | shoe: not bad (at least for < 50 people at the pre-conf) [10:41:35] JodiS | shoe: you're the linuxlibrarian, right? [10:41:43] BigD | my vpn won't work [10:42:01] anarchivist | BigD: i'm connected to mine - what are you using [10:42:03] JodiS | royt's vpn doesn't work at Brown either, I understand [10:42:06] scolford | wifi at Brown -- not so hot [10:42:12] gsf | ha! first hit on search for "freenode ports": http://blog.benostrowsky.com/2007/02/28/alternate-freenode-port-8000/ [10:42:17] jtgorman_ | BigD: crazy guess, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the wireless network you're on only probably has the default number of vpn connections [10:42:19] BigD | anarchivist: cisco thingy [10:42:20] shoe | JodiS: ah, thanks. no, not linuxlibrarian. :) [10:42:21] jtgorman_ | usually like two [10:42:24] fak3r | dchud: toolbars, yeah, always distracting...what's that moving google thing at the top? [10:42:25] anarchivist | BigD: same here [10:42:26] BigD | if i use the new webvpn, it works [10:42:27] royt | JodiS: right, forced to do webmail :-( [10:42:30] BigD | but it's clunky [10:42:34] fak3r | dchud: can't look away [10:42:43] akorphan | gsf: I tried that too, didn't work. [10:42:43] anarchivist | i'm using port 8000 by default i think [10:42:48] dchud | haw! [10:42:51] dlovins | fak3r: looks like a "triple"? [10:42:59] akorphan | oh. missed the password part. [10:43:00] jtgorman_ | BigD: so to get on vpn you'll have to find the other people using vpn and smash their laptops [10:43:03] fak3r | dlovins: ah! [10:43:13] jbrinley | dchud: I think it's a browser-syncing thing [10:43:33] dlovins | fak3r: But i have no idea what it does. I wish he'd click on it. [10:43:34] akorphan | I can't read that. [10:43:46] akorphan | dark blue on black -- [10:43:48] fak3r | curl ftw! [10:43:51] mbklein | Paramedics of the future: "He's not carrying ID, but there's a FOAF URI tattooed on his arm. Find out who he s and call one of them to meet us at the hospital." [10:43:54] * BigD eyes anarchivist's laptop... where's my hammer? [10:44:01] fak3r | mbklein++ [10:44:58] BigD | after listening to, and meeting edsu, i feel a lot less like punching him in the throat [10:45:03] BigD | for me, that's a compliment. [10:45:07] anarchivist | BigD++ [10:45:21] * royt can't connect via port 8000, even [10:45:28] * mbklein wonders if one of the FOAF-descendant vocabularies defines an emergencyContact field. [10:45:45] dchud | edsu++ # excellent point [10:45:46] JodiS | mbklein: if not, should define one [10:45:59] JodiS | mbklein: I was wondering about "defunct email address" [10:46:08] JodiS | mbklein: was thinking it would be fun to collect mine up [10:46:33] BigD | where's lunch? [10:46:39] dbs | gsf: heh. benostrowsky got my emaill address wrong in that blog post; phew! [10:46:45] JodiS | "The good news: LC wants to put up id.loc.gov. The problem: when???" [10:46:48] jbrinley | BigD: something in the mall? [10:47:02] BigD | JodiS: is it shovel ready? [10:47:07] gsf | dbs: so that's why you get no spam [10:47:10] mbklein | JodiS: An email client that would accept a FOAF URI as an address would be a nice touch. Just look up the mbox. [10:47:20] BigD | jbrinley: is the mall linked inside, or do you have to walk outside? [10:47:20] JodiS | ooh [10:47:31] JodiS | BigD: must wallk outside. Freezing your CA ass off? [10:47:33] akorphan | On one of those W streets (washington, westminster, something) there's a good Cuban place. [10:47:33] jbrinley | BigD: outside, about 1.5 blocks [10:47:35] akorphan | with great milkshakes. [10:47:35] BigD | i've lived in San Diego too long. can't go outside [10:47:39] BigD | ;) [10:47:48] jbrinley | BigD-- # put a coat on [10:47:48] BigD | JodiS: totally [10:47:51] anarchivist | akorphan: that sounds fucking awesome actually [10:47:52] JodiS | restaurant info: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Conference_Buzz#Eats [10:47:53] BigD | that's why it's so small [10:47:54] BigD | ;) [10:48:01] mbklein | What obstacles DIDN'T you run into? [10:48:03] JodiS | please add recs if they're not there already [10:48:05] fak3r | BigD: I need my coat too...and lunch [10:48:09] akorphan | anarchivist: It's called Cuban Revolution. [10:48:15] akorphan | Assuming it's still open [10:48:29] jtgorman_ | while there's a bunch of geeks gathered... [10:48:35] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Bigwood, David: Metadata Remediation Tools || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Information Services for the Born Digital Generation || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Digital Natives and Traditional Information Resources [10:48:37] jtgorman_ | any recommendations for mp3/media players? [10:48:38] dchud | wooh! [10:48:39] anarchivist | nerds_in_this_room++ [10:48:44] BigD | jbrinley: i did kill a bear and can wear his skin [10:48:45] fak3r | nerds? um, I prefer geeks sir! [10:48:48] jtgorman_ | ideally one that would work with linux [10:48:59] jbrinley | BigD: that's the spirit [10:49:04] dchud | there were a lot of people at LC that really liked this and got it, fwiw. [10:49:07] jtgorman_ | it would be cool if it had some sort of playlist ability [10:49:09] mbklein | akorphan: http://www.thecubanrevolution.com/Locations2%20CR%20New.htm [10:49:11] fak3r | jtgorman_: Banshee [10:49:25] jbrinley | complaining++ [10:49:35] ---| ---> mib_zqv3h4 [i=8a10400b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e4a37a5f5d177717] has joined #code4lib [10:49:41] akorphan | mbklein: other people doing the research++ [10:49:44] gsf | so we should write our congresspersons [10:49:45] ---| ---> mib_0lbd1a [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e222c974262137cf] has joined #code4lib [10:49:57] ---| <<-- mib_0lbd1a [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e222c974262137cf] has quit (Client Quit) [10:50:15] ---| ---> sripeep [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-96f4ec2d7b31ce1b] has joined #code4lib [10:50:27] BigD | can't that dude just move it to the pirate bay? [10:50:50] dlovins | dchud: Everyone I showed it to at Yale thought lcsh.info was very cool [10:50:52] dchud | i am so glad i got into this program, i hope i can add to this discussion [10:50:53] jtgorman_ | fak3r: is that just a software player? I'm looking for something I can take to listen to podcasts/video casts on the bus/road [10:50:58] JodiS | akorphan: Aborn, I think: http://www.thecubanrevolution.com/ [10:50:58] jtgorman_ | and listen to my music [10:51:05] fak3r | BigD: that's what I was always thinking! [10:51:13] dchud | dlovins: oh yeah? did you demo it in front of a group? [10:51:23] jbrinley | jtgorman_: sounds like you want an iPod [10:51:29] fak3r | jtgorman_: bah, sorry - I have a recent 8gig nano, works great with linux via flooz [10:51:39] dchud | jphipps++ # good story [10:51:43] dlovins | dchud: in front of several groups: IT people, catalogers, managers [10:51:44] gsf | washington_times++ http://opensource.washingtontimes.com/blog/post/coordt/2009/02/washington-times-releases-open-source-projects/ [10:52:16] jtgorman_ | jbrinley: the video would be nice, but not extremely necessary.... [10:52:19] jtgorman_ | jbrinley: and I'm cheap ;) [10:52:37] ---| <--- mib_zqv3h4 [i=8a10400b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e4a37a5f5d177717] has left #code4lib () [10:52:38] jbrinley | jtgorman_: find a good contest to win one ;) [10:52:45] dchud | rsinger++ # good question [10:52:46] mbklein | gsf: sweet. [10:52:48] akorphan | jodis, mbklein: I've always pretended that the cross-streets don't exist in Providence. [10:53:19] gsf | rsinger: way to get edsu 'splainin [10:53:21] jtgorman_ | fak3r: flooz? [10:53:24] fak3r | jtgorman_: hit buy.com see if they have last yrs model [10:53:48] akorphan | Isn't flooz the stuff from Pipe Dream? [10:54:08] BigD | some food ideas http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=food&find_loc=providence%2C+ri&ns=1&rpp=10#mapCenterLat:41.8270423603/mapCenterLng:-71.4083862305/mapZoom:14/zoomSelected:true/sortby:composite/mapsize:small/show_more_search_options:true [10:54:18] mbklein | gsf: django-projectmgr looks like a friendlier Trac. [10:54:28] dchud | "...my trusty Rosinante moves along the road very well..." [10:54:29] fak3r | jtgorman_: s/flooz/some win/mac/lin itunes replacement... [10:54:42] fak3r | trac-- [10:54:44] gsf | mbklein: not sure what it looks like yet, but yeah, could be [10:54:49] bess | it occurs to me that this is exactly the kind of work that catalogers would be well suited for [10:54:55] ---| <<-- Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has quit ("adios!") [10:55:05] BigD | dchud: when are you talking? did you say noon? [10:55:15] mbklein | gsf: I assume it's the project manager being used to manage the projects they've just released. So just click through on a project and you can see it. :) [10:55:18] dchud | BigD: yep, last in the next block [10:55:25] akorphan | Oh, best sushi in Providence that's reasonably priced: Sakura on Wickenden St. [10:55:37] mbklein | BigD: Bad news. Getting to most of those places will require you to go outside. [10:55:37] akorphan | (which street somehow manages to support four or five sushi placaes) [10:55:40] BigD | dchud: isn't 12-1:30 lunchtime? [10:55:51] BigD | mbklein: i have a transporter [10:55:54] fak3r | jtgorman_: s/flooz/floola/ http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/ [10:56:02] rsinger | actually, i think it doesn't have to be lossy, but it would require more assertions to get to the same place [10:56:04] dchud | 12:30-2 is lunchtime [10:56:10] fak3r | sushi-- [10:56:14] BigD | and i can go outside... i grew up on the prairie ;) [10:56:14] JodiS | bess: integrating/opening up data? [10:56:27] BigD | dchud: gotcha, thanks! didn't want to miss you [10:56:34] anarchivist | wickr: just wrote kate bowers @ harvard back about TUCUA [10:56:40] jbrinley | oh, lunch moved later [10:56:43] MrDys | bah...some freebase newbie is f'ing up my demo [10:56:45] bess | JodiS: yes, and re-imagining SKOS so it maps cleanly to LCSH. [10:56:48] dchud | BigD: you're so sweet [10:57:02] JodiS | bess: that sounds great. and those things need to happen. [10:57:05] gsf | mbklein: oh, right. btw, trac++ [10:57:25] * jbrinley wonders if it would be better to re-imagine LCSH so it maps better to SKOS [10:57:26] BigD | dchud: blood sugar is good. by 12 i'll be evil again [10:57:26] BigD | ;) [10:57:33] JodiS | akorphan: can you add that sushi to http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Conference_Buzz#Eats [10:57:36] bess | jbrinley++ # also a good approach [10:57:37] JodiS | ? [10:57:43] mbklein | Actual suggestion/comment sent to ask@bpl.org: "I love this site! However, there should be an easy way to exit and I can't find it." [10:57:44] fak3r | jbrinley: ya, I'd like to see that [10:57:44] ---| <<-- sripeep [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-96f4ec2d7b31ce1b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:57:44] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-67ba37e3fc62f1d8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:58:00] ---| ---> ranti [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a71b1f6809978fbd] has joined #code4lib [10:58:05] ---| <<-- DHahn [i=DHahn@pptp-0012.vpn.tamu.edu] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [10:58:17] ---| ---> DHahn [n=dhahn@138.16.59.175] has joined #code4lib [10:58:25] jtgorman_ | @weather 02907 [10:58:27] zoia | jtgorman_: The current temperature in Cherry Hill, Johnston, Rhode Island is 33.1°F (10:58 AM EST on February 23, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Rising). [10:58:33] * jtgorman_ scratches head [10:58:58] jtgorman_ | @weather Providence RI [10:59:00] zoia | jtgorman_: The current temperature in Cherry Hill, Johnston, Rhode Island is 32.9°F (10:58 AM EST on February 23, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Rising). [10:59:11] akorphan | JodiS: done and done. [10:59:20] JodiS | akorphan++ [10:59:28] jtgorman_ | @weather 61801 [10:59:30] zoia | jtgorman_: The current temperature in South Urbana, Urbana, Illinois is 22.8°F (9:40 AM CST on February 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). [10:59:51] fak3r | back row on the right: someone has a Chumby! [11:00:58] * akorphan knows the area and is happy to provide more lunch recommendations for those with specific interests. Will update wiki upon request. [11:02:18] ---| ---> davidWalker [n=chatzill@cpe-76-176-126-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [11:02:22] cazzerson | decaf only at the coffee table [11:02:36] akorphan | any more of those terrible protein bars? [11:06:14] anarchivist | soybars+- [11:06:35] akorphan | anarchivist: they weren't bad except for the strange floral aftertaste. [11:06:49] akorphan | on top of all the other typical nutrition bar mediocreness. [11:07:05] akorphan | so yeah, +-. [11:07:12] cazzerson | "floral" is kinda generous [11:07:32] jbrinley | grassy, perhaps? [11:07:46] cazzerson | deodoranty [11:07:49] akorphan | more like... hotel-soap scented. [11:08:33] akorphan | not sure if I can make it another 1.5 hrs to lunch [11:10:59] ejk | So which is the offical snarky backchannel of the conference? Twitter or IRC? [11:11:12] jbrinley | I forgot how much attention it takes to keep up with this conference. With presentations and the channel each requiring at least 65% of my attention, little is left for other work. [11:11:21] wickr | ejk: irc [11:11:41] * jbrinley thinks about looking at twitter, but changes his mind [11:11:54] * lbjay is on the podium [11:12:21] * akorphan hasn't been able to make himself care about twitter yet. In the big picture sense. [11:12:32] ---| User: *** jphipps is now known as jphipps|away [11:12:41] jbrinley ah, that's what lbjay looks like [11:13:02] lbjay | aand 5... 4... 3... [11:13:17] jbrinley | now it works [11:14:39] akorphan | lbjay: not so much success with the call to order, I guess. [11:16:43] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-62.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:17:30] ---| ---> jstroop_ [n=jstroop@wsip-70-164-25-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:17:37] ---| User: *** jphipps|away is now known as jphipps [11:17:45] ---| ---> MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-62.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:18:12] dchud | i propose a breakout session on a semiotic deconstruction of the imagery in the conference t-shirt [11:18:20] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Spalding, Tim (Thingology): uClassify contest winner [11:18:22] dchud | that or a linked data representation [11:18:22] ---| <<-- jstroop [n=jstroop@wsip-70-164-25-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:18:32] fak3r | dchud: will need more coffee to undertstand it [11:18:35] mbklein | lbjay++ # takin' charge. kickin' ass. takin' names. [11:19:03] wickr | wasn't there a file with all of the shirt pieces described? [11:19:04] jbrinley | adding them to his foaf... [11:19:06] rsinger | fak3r: there's more coffee now [11:19:12] anarchivist | jay "filthy" luker [11:19:24] rsinger | anarchivist++ [11:19:33] royt | pics from today's OCLC Grid Services precon now up at http://code4lib.org/2009/oclc-precon [11:19:33] mbklein | dchud: Is this you? http://xkcd.com/451/ [11:20:04] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cc9813d0c9876a5a] has joined #code4lib [11:20:07] JodiS | fak3r: my somewhat broken chumby :) feel free to play with it. step one: get it some internet [11:20:23] dlovins | anarchavist++ [11:20:29] anarchivist | dlovins++ [11:20:33] JodiS | royt: thanks for the pix. [11:20:37] ---| ---> asl2 [n=asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [11:20:38] gsf | anarchivist++ wonder if he's heard that one [11:20:41] royt | sure thing [11:20:42] wickr | dchud: if you didn't already see it: http://code4lib.org/files/the%20whole%20world%20is%20in%20here_concept_by%20sandy.txt [11:20:53] JodiS | anybody in linked data taking pictures? [11:21:09] dchud | mbklein: heh. that was a good one. [11:21:09] dlovins | JodiS: I think Ray Schwartz is [11:21:14] jbrinley | JodiS: I saw iand taking pictures earlier [11:21:26] JodiS | awesome. hoping they all get tagged #c4l09 someplace [11:21:45] dchud | wickr: oh cool, thx [11:21:48] * JodiS is going to be looking for pictures for the Journal, assuming we get conference reports [11:21:48] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-22.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:21:59] dchud | colorful tabs! [11:22:10] dchud | eikeon++ [11:22:20] dchud | eikeon: are your ears burning yet? [11:22:23] edsu | eikeon++ [11:22:31] JodiS | lbjay++ [11:22:48] fak3r | dchud: he's a man proud of his tabs [11:22:54] mjg_ | "observe the non-butt-ugliness of this format" [11:22:57] ---| ---> saschel [i=5ee062f0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ed86d5bcecaaff1] has joined #code4lib [11:23:02] eikeon | :D [11:23:03] dchud | fak3r: it's a beautiful thing [11:23:08] fak3r | I didn't think that was more readable... [11:23:11] akorphan | mjg_: sounds like a quote to me. [11:23:17] * anarchivist wants to have an rdf-themed ice cream flavor called "turtle triple ripple" [11:23:24] ---| User: *** edc_detached is now known as ecorrado [11:23:31] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [11:23:38] MrDys | step one: choose your uris [11:23:38] jbrinley | anarchivist: filled with pointers to other people's bowls of ice cream? [11:23:46] MrDys | step two: put your junk in those uris [11:23:47] akorphan | ("turtle", "ripple_count", 3) [11:23:52] fak3r | MrDys: I thought he said choose your eyes [11:23:53] ---| <<-- jstroop_ [n=jstroop@wsip-70-164-25-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:23:57] * anarchivist makes waffle cones using the GRDDL [11:24:04] MrDys | step three: have her open the box [11:24:08] MrDys | s/box/uris [11:24:17] fak3r | "this is me, expressing myself!" [11:24:27] fak3r | ^movie? [11:24:29] mbklein | MrDys++ The funniest SNL short I can't share with anyone I know. [11:24:33] edsu | "break it down" [11:24:34] JodiS what was the http://www.mindswap.org URL that lbjay was talking about? [11:24:36] anarchivist | MrDys++ [11:24:45] gsf @herald add lbjay now entering the ring: jay "filthy" luker [11:24:45] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. [11:24:48] jbrinley | JodiS: http://www.mindswap.org/2002/rdfconvert/ [11:24:56] mjg_ | gsf++ [11:25:01] JodiS | jbrinley++ [11:25:17] jbrinley | pecans++ [11:25:20] mbklein | anarchivist: You want SPARQLs on that? [11:25:26] edsu | http://www.mindswap.org/2002/rdfconvert/ [11:25:48] anarchivist | mbklein++ [11:26:01] anarchivist | mbklein: yeah, and the reddi whip is on its way [11:26:08] mjg_ | "...by their poor ability to express themselves" [11:26:12] mbklein | anarchivist+- [11:26:33] anarchivist | NYPL triple ripple [11:26:36] edsu | should we give out some of the books before lunch? [11:26:37] fak3r | classmates.com ? [11:26:45] jbrinley | edsu: yes [11:26:47] mjg_ | lbjay++ # useful stuff [11:26:52] * edsu will go get them [11:26:57] akorphan | better get cracking on that foaf profile.... [11:27:12] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@wsip-70-164-25-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:27:13] dchud | BigD: gotcha [11:27:18] fak3r | hmm...again, not a good sale apoligizing for stuff... [11:27:27] jbrinley | edsu: I liked the system last year of using the raffle to get people back from breaks [11:27:35] jbrinley | edsu: you have to be present to win [11:27:45] fak3r | "you never want to start from scratch" [11:27:50] dchud | if you have won an award in the last six months, please do not apply again [11:27:53] BigD | JodiS: got my camera out... turn around [11:27:59] gsf | lbjay has actually done this speech before, but it was with a shampoo bottle [11:28:05] dchud | employees of the linked data pre-conf and their immediate families are not eligible [11:28:11] dlovins | Anyone ever been to "Toastmasters"? Good for public speaking. [11:28:55] gsf | silence fills the chat room [11:29:07] JodiS | toastmasters++ [11:29:09] mbklein | dlovins: I used to have a colleague who was really into Toastmasters. [11:29:09] MrDys | I don't know about you, but I don't really expect stellar public speaking abilities from code4lib [11:29:12] JodiS | dlovins++ [11:29:14] MrDys | it's the content that matters [11:29:19] fak3r | that guy owes BigD 20$...can we foaf that? [11:29:22] JodiS | MrDys: both, always [11:29:34] JodiS | MrDys: content over flashy presentation, but both. [11:29:35] mjg_ | Who ya gonna call? Toastbusters! [11:29:43] anarchivist | mjg_++ [11:29:47] fak3r | mjg_: ok, I can see that [11:29:51] * anarchivist ain't afraid of no toast [11:29:58] fak3r | down with walled gardens! [11:30:19] MrDys | http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/226/The-Secret-Life-of-Toast [11:30:19] mbklein | MrDys: Content I can't follow isn't that much better than no content at all. (Not to say today's stuff falls into that category; just sayin'.) [11:30:25] bess | "we're not building a walled garden"... I love it! I want that on a poster in my library. [11:30:34] fak3r | rerun [11:30:55] fak3r | infinate number of ... monkeys [11:31:08] JodiS | bess: got it on CD [11:31:10] BigD | i wish my camera were quieter [11:31:14] ---| ---> mib_qkp0yv [i=46a41978@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f81b28e37b821725] has joined #code4lib [11:31:19] anarchivist | fak3r: there was discussion of rerun in here before [11:31:20] mbklein | http://simple.wikipedia.org++ [11:31:21] JodiS | bess: thanks, copying it [11:31:23] rsinger | bah bum bum, ba bah bum bum [11:31:26] gsf | BigD: it wishes you were quieter, too [11:31:27] jbrinley | BigD: it's not that distracting [11:31:32] anarchivist | i think it was rsinger taking about how rerun tried to bootleg a doobie brothers concert [11:31:32] fak3r | see, he's saying to just use what's out there - I think that's what everyone should do [11:31:38] bess | JodiS: sweet. I have a couple of USB keys here and I want to put it on those too so we can also pass them around [11:31:40] * anarchivist has no fucking idea why he remembers that [11:31:43] fak3r | BigD: makes me feel like I'm walking the red carpet [11:31:44] mbklein | gsf++ [11:31:47] fak3r | mjg_: mentioned! [11:31:53] dchud | BOOTLEGGER! [11:32:12] dchud | "tonight, on a very special episode of What's Happening..." [11:32:21] fak3r | looks like it reads in dice [11:32:30] fak3r | dchud: ;) [11:32:32] rsinger | yeah, that's really the only episode i remember [11:32:43] rsinger | "Rog, I just wanted another hamburger, Rog'" [11:32:44] jbrinley | where is indice? [11:32:49] * gsf does 2d4 damage to indice [11:32:53] gsf | @dice 2d4 [11:32:53] zoia | gsf: 1 and 2 [11:32:55] dchud | R.I.P. Rerun [11:32:56] gsf | damn [11:33:02] fak3r | gsf++ [11:33:07] dlovins | @google indice [11:33:07] mbklein | Fred Berry ftw [11:33:08] zoia | dlovins: Search took 0.15 seconds: Indice - definition of Indice by the Free Online Dictionary ...: ; indice - Wiktionary: ; Indice: ; Big Mac index: exchange-rate theory | The Economist: ; indice Resources | BNET: (2 more messages) [11:33:16] JodiS | bess: know who I should pass this CD to? [11:33:27] bess | JodiS: me, so I can put it on these USB drives [11:33:36] jbrinley | google is not helping me [11:33:45] * gsf is trying to figure out how to use iand's barter vocab to demonstrate the $20 he owes BigD [11:33:47] fak3r | jbrinley: me neither - where is indice? [11:34:04] JodiS | bess: wave [11:34:11] bess | I'm in the back row [11:34:15] JodiS | bess: ok, see you [11:34:21] fak3r | click, click [11:34:39] wtd | sindice.com [11:34:40] edsu | open_world++ [11:34:57] * jbrinley wants the wall lamps to have flames instead of bulbs [11:35:15] edsu | lbjay++ [11:35:16] bess | so how to I learn how to actually parse rdf? [11:35:22] bess | is that the afternoon bit? [11:35:25] BigD | how do i calculate interest in RDF? [11:35:30] fak3r | bess: cat file.rdf ? [11:35:31] BigD | or bust kneecaps? [11:35:32] edsu | bess: unfortunately, i think [11:35:40] edsu | bess: what language do you want to use? [11:35:43] * mjg_ rolls the sin dice [11:35:48] bess | drat! I can't come to the afternoon workshop. I want to use ruby. [11:35:49] jbrinley | http://sindice.com/ [11:35:52] fak3r | http://sindice.com/ [11:36:02] * royt wants a pair of sin dice [11:36:10] rsinger | GYIFs [11:36:12] rsinger | er [11:36:15] rsinger | GIYFs [11:36:19] rsinger | rsinger-- [11:36:29] fak3r | royt: sin dice - that's have to be sharp, dangerous somehow [11:36:30] dbs | royt: we call 'em "tequila pigs" up here [11:36:31] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@wsip-70-164-25-33.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:37:05] * lbjay guzzles water, two-fisted [11:37:10] fak3r | not a fan of the green banner. [11:37:19] gsf | dbs: i hope the baby is appreciating your presence as much as we're appreciating your absence [11:37:20] bess | ruby or java, I guess. We're already doing a lot of data harvesting in solrmarc, and it's in java, so I guess we'll need to use java too. Which presumably is better supported than ruby. [11:37:27] BigD | lbjay++ [11:37:29] edsu | bess: you could try http://librdf.org/docs/ruby.html [11:37:29] JodiS | lbjay: like how you segued into Ian's talk [11:37:37] BigD | lbjay: neat to see what you look like finally. [11:37:43] lbjay | JodiS: i'd planned to mention open.vocab.org [11:37:46] dbs | gsf++ [11:37:51] lbjay | slipped through the brain cracks [11:37:59] BigD | well, not that yer neat. at least yer not a long hair freak, like some of these... [11:38:03] rsinger | bess: ruby's state of rdf is piss-poor, sadly [11:38:16] lbjay | BigD++ haircuts++ [11:38:17] dbs | you need a drooling guy sitting in the back to make you all feel better by comparison [11:38:22] gsf | lbjay: edsu mentioned open.vocab.org [11:38:34] bess | rsinger: is it even worth playing with? or is it just broken? [11:38:36] mjg_ | dbs: check. [11:38:42] akorphan | Has anyone made up bingo cards? [11:38:52] rsinger | bess: the redland bindings i think are the 'most stable'? [11:38:55] * gsf wipes off drool [11:38:55] JodiS | bingo cards? [11:38:59] JodiS | oh, no [11:39:00] anarchivist | rsinger: that sounds right [11:39:05] rsinger | bess: but they're not very 'ruby-ish' [11:39:15] ---| Channel: JodiS changed the topic of #code4lib to: Happy #c4l09! [11:39:24] edsu | danbri: what's your preferred ruby library for working w/ rdf? [11:39:29] rsinger | bess: of course, you could use jena through jruby and satisfy both needs [11:39:40] danbri | this week: jruby + jena, yes [11:39:40] rsinger | edsu: see above :) [11:39:44] bess | rsinger: go on. [11:39:45] danbri | a new experiment for me. [11:39:47] gsf | there's a lot in open vocab about earworms [11:39:48] dchud | rsinger++ # good point [11:39:50] danbri | am happy so far [11:39:53] wtd | What's with the flames at the top of the screen? [11:39:57] danbri | for skos experiments. lucene too. [11:40:06] ---| <<-- phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m765e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:40:09] jbrinley | wtd: shadows from the curtain [11:40:13] rsinger | bess: have you used jruby at all? [11:40:27] bess | I've compiled ruby code into jruby and run it with java [11:40:30] bess | does that count? [11:40:33] bess | this seems different. [11:40:34] rsinger | sure [11:40:36] gsf | wtd: must be compiz [11:40:54] bess | http://www.thewebsemantic.com/2008/01/05/jena-ruby-bindings-accessing-jenas-feature-rich-rdf-api-from-ruby/ [11:40:56] dchud | c'mon, caffiene, kick in [11:40:59] bess | is that a good place to start? [11:41:00] rsinger | bess: well, it's just the opposite, you'd load the jena jars in your ruby app and instantiate objects and whatnot [11:41:07] lbjay | did they refill the coffee urns yet? [11:41:14] bess | rsinger: okay, gotcha. cool. I'll look into that. [11:41:17] edsu | bess: not so different, basically when you install jruby you can put #!/usr/bin/env jruby in your script, and then you can write ruby that has access to java libraries like jena, lucene, etc [11:41:27] anarchivist | dchud: it's a little scary that i've had ~3 cups of coffee and am halfway through a diet coke and am not feeling the buzz yet [11:41:28] mjg_ | lbjay: someone was doing something over there, so it's likely. [11:41:30] ---| ---> phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m625e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [11:41:47] JodiS | anarchivist: I'm worried for the rest of us later ;) [11:41:51] * akorphan just begrudgingly foafed. [11:41:51] dchud | anarchivist: then why are you shaking like that? [11:41:53] bess | edsu: sweet! I did not know that. I've only ever used jruby in the other direction, i.e., write in ruby and run in java [11:41:56] gsf | anarchivist: i blame earthless [11:42:02] anarchivist | gsf++ [11:42:12] * anarchivist blames, uh, earthless too [11:42:14] edsu | bess: it's bascially the same thing :) [11:42:21] robcaSSon | @blame j. mascis [11:42:22] zoia | robcaSSon: is that some kinda fucked up sparql query? [11:42:23] edsu | how was that earthless show? [11:42:27] BigD | i hate the light in rooms like this [11:42:31] anarchivist | edsu: fucking rad [11:42:36] anarchivist | edsu: we didnt stay for witch [11:42:40] mjg_ | zoia++ # topical! [11:42:41] robcaSSon | edsu: it was good...we bailed early [11:42:42] zoia | mjg_: have you tried yaz-marcdump? [11:42:45] BigD | why can we do all conferences outside in the sun? like in californis! [11:42:45] ---| <<-- saschel [i=5ee062f0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ed86d5bcecaaff1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:42:46] dchud | BigD: me too. are you filtering? [11:43:10] eikeon | zoia++ #indeed ;) [11:43:11] zoia | eikeon: your CeCe Winans Featured Selection order has been confirmed! [11:43:13] edsu | http://schemacache.test.talis.com/ [11:43:17] lbjay | open.vocab.org is teh awesome [11:43:21] bess | rsinger, edsu: thank you. jena looks great. That's what I'm going to play with. [11:43:24] rsinger | bess: yeah, you wont go back to java now [11:43:32] BigD | dchud: define filtering? i just have a UV filter on like usual [11:43:40] rsinger | bess: plus, jruby is faster than MRI 1.8 [11:43:42] dchud | eikeon: cool, i didn't know you were into the Winanses [11:43:57] dchud | BigD: that counts i guess [11:44:19] dchud | BigD: i have it in my mind to learn to use a red filter and a polarizer when i shoot b&w. i don't understand them yet. [11:44:20] rsinger | ah, technologically enforced time limit [11:44:31] mjg_ | @hosts2010 [11:44:33] zoia | mjg_: Asheville, NC [160]; Austin, TX [154]; Madison, WI [138]; Columbus, OH [102]; Bloomington, IN [72] [11:44:42] BigD | i think i have those with me if you want to play [11:44:59] dchud | BigD: i smell a breakout session. i would love to do that. [11:45:40] ---| <<-- wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009020911]") [11:45:53] akorphan | asheville would be pretty sweet. On the other hand, I'd love to recommend Chapel Hill for 2011 [11:45:58] anarchivist | dchud: no, that's just BigD's BO [11:46:09] bess | akorphan: Chapel_Hill++ [11:46:14] bess | akorphan: are you in Chapel Hill? [11:46:33] akorphan | Not at the moment. Not even at work. Not even at home. But at home, I'm next door to Chapel HIll. [11:46:38] akorphan | How's that for evasive? [11:46:38] mjg_ | BigD: couldn't you have gone to the personal hygiene pre-conf? [11:46:50] mbklein | akorphan: Hillsboro? [11:46:57] anarchivist | mjg_: you should talk, man. you forgot your beard net. [11:46:57] akorphan | mbklein: Carrboro [11:47:06] mbklein | akorphan: ah ok [11:47:11] wickr | ferret cage [11:47:13] dchud | welcome to #code4lib: not above the occasional body odor joke, since 2003! [11:47:26] mjg_ | my beard net brings all the hairs to the net. [11:47:28] akorphan | Freight Train #9 level crossing ++ [11:47:29] bess | akorphan: do we know each other? I'm from Carrboro. Are you from there, or you just live there now? [11:47:47] robcaSSon | @quote search smell smart [11:47:49] BigD | dchud: sure! on the camera stuff... [11:47:50] zoia | robcaSSon: 1 found: #1301: "< roobcaSSooon> edsu: you smell smart" [11:47:52] akorphan | bess: I live there, but am from New England. [11:48:10] cazzerson | carrboro++ [11:48:17] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: OpenVocab || del.icio.us: Sindice - The semantic web index || del.icio.us: vocab.org - A URI space for vocabularies || del.icio.us: RDF Converter || del.icio.us: Mindswap Homepage [11:48:21] bess | akorphan: say hi to Weaver St for me. :) [11:48:24] mjg_ | good questions. [11:48:29] dchud | this could be a great discussion topic [11:48:37] mjg_ | this_preconf++ [11:48:41] akorphan | bess: Will do [11:48:47] akorphan | co-op grocery ++ [11:48:58] mjg_ | (BigD's malodorousness notwithstanding) [11:49:40] BigD | anarchivist: mjg_ Yer Moms. oh yeah. I went there. [11:49:42] mjg_ | I've gotta say, as scary as the range-14 stuff can get, it's been pretty smooth so far. [11:49:50] * gsf only links data on the ferretnet [11:50:08] anarchivist | the distributed global ferret [11:50:13] * mjg_ asserts foaf:musk [11:50:18] mbklein | akorphan: I'll second the co-op++ for having good options for my celiac kid to eat when we were in NC a couple years ago. [11:50:19] gsf | the ferretnet is all hashes. a nest of hashes [11:50:19] akorphan | the hamsternet is full of habitrail tubes. [11:50:19] jbrinley | is somebody going to talk about the range-14 stuff? [11:50:49] danbri | can't we forget range-14? so much time is wasted on those details.... :( [11:50:57] danbri | but i agree it can be confusing to not explain it, also [11:50:58] mjg_ | jbrinley: iand kind of deftly walked around it, which I thought was perfect. [11:51:10] danbri | iand++ [11:51:13] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:51:16] gsf | mjg_: pirouetted, really [11:51:21] * jbrinley just wants a good, explicit understanding of what it is [11:51:22] mjg_ | iand++ # werd. [11:51:26] akorphan | I have to confess that I think human thought is too messy to be properly semanticized. [11:52:01] mjg_ | alcohol poisoning makes it even more difficult. [11:52:05] gsf | jbrinley: did you read the cool uris piece yet? [11:52:08] danbri | akorphan, the fact that my mind is messy, is one reason i like to be able to rely on socially constructed props ... calendars, databases, computers... [11:52:23] jbrinley | gsf: no, not yet [11:52:33] danbri | ...semweb shouldn't be mistaken for a cogsci project: we're supplementign the human mind, not modelling it. [11:52:36] jbrinley | gsf: thanks for pointing me there [11:52:39] rsinger | well, i guess a way to look at that particular question is that a gerund isn't the same thing as a verb [11:52:43] BigD | who dat? [11:52:46] akorphan | danbri: but when it gets to things like, "what does one mean by 'anniversary'," it will be tough to lay out all the shades of meaning... [11:52:53] ---| ---> taco [n=taco@213-132-179-227.multikabel.nl] has joined #code4lib [11:52:56] gsf | jbrinley: it's in the handout methinks [11:53:01] akorphan | mmm, tacos. [11:53:11] danbri | what did i mean by "schoolHomepage"? [11:53:24] danbri | as a brit, i meant " the home page of the place where you went to school" [11:53:32] danbri | which is of course something that's over by 16 or so... [11:53:44] danbri | then usamericans started using the property too, and its meaning drifted [11:53:49] danbri | universities etc too. [11:53:59] danbri | no great harm done, as it turns out. rdf is sufficiently bendy. [11:54:18] taco | hi everyone! so far, yet so close... is the irc projected on a backchannel yet? [11:54:30] danbri | when you don't want bendy data, OWL lets you write down more assumptions so that miscommunication is more readily detected... [11:54:34] akorphan | danbri: it's because the us americans don't have maps. [11:54:36] ---| <--- scolford [i=8a10400b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83a2c49ef11560ab] has left #code4lib () [11:54:49] gsf taco: lbjay put it up on screen for a second [11:55:39] mjg_ | jphipps++ [11:55:50] mbklein | akorphan++ [11:56:20] mjg_ | JodiS++ # all the wrangling re: getting slides on the wiki, getting folks to use the conf tag, etc. [11:56:21] * akorphan switches to the blue line at the Iraq. [11:56:27] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-22.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [11:56:29] gsf | lbjay++ good talk, btw. appreciate the anti-xml [11:56:33] mjg_ | akorphan++ [11:56:36] JodiS | mjg: np :) [11:56:44] * jbrinley has always liked rdf/xml [11:57:35] jbrinley | it's true, I watched him [11:57:45] * akorphan has always thought RDF was an overly complicated way of presenting ordered triplets. [11:57:58] akorphan | RDF+xml that is [11:58:13] danbri | do you have a preferred redesign? [11:58:26] jbrinley | it's complicated, yes, but, if done well, it's easy to scan [11:58:35] akorphan | danbri: Can't say as I do. [11:58:37] jbrinley | n3 is not [11:58:42] akorphan | So maybe I shouldn't complain. [11:58:50] ---| ---> eby_ [n=ebyr@173-98-26-57.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #code4lib [11:59:05] danbri | at least we have GRDDL now. If someone comes up with a great successor, they can just write the xslt and evangelise; generic GRDDL parsers will eat it... [11:59:14] jbrinley | but I may not know enough about n3 to have an informed opinion [11:59:27] * gsf contemplates distracting edsu long enough to grab a copy of working ontologist [11:59:40] * JodiS would like to understand GRDDL but doesn't [11:59:51] dchud | i like the prose documentation bits. i'm all for auto-generating prose notes. [12:00:14] dchud | if somebody could do a "what is GRDDL" talk/demo after lunch i'd be grateful [12:00:17] mbklein | hngry confrcegoer iz hngry [12:00:27] danbri | is SKOS getting much discussion at the conf? [12:00:33] mjg_ | dchud++ # good idea. [12:00:54] mjg_ | danbri: it's been mentioned numerous times in fact [12:00:58] cazzerson | dchud: me too [12:01:02] * jbrinley wants to attend a 3-5 day linked data/practical semweb workshop [12:01:04] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-22.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:01:08] danbri | all good i hope [12:01:20] dchud | those adrenaline butterflies do wonders for my mental focus. it's amazing. [12:01:43] * mbklein can kind of explain what GRDDL is, but can't go deep. [12:01:55] danbri | i really want to spend some time this spring contrasting OWL classification facilities with what you get in Library classification systems [12:01:55] bess | jbrinley++ # that is an awesome idea. Who could organize that? [12:01:59] ---| <<-- papo [i=mathias@libic042.ethz.ch] has quit ("Verlassend") [12:02:10] mjg_ | danbri: yup, good or neutral/factual [12:02:10] danbri | ie. how can we re-do "Social impact of - Tin Mining - In Sweden - in the 1960s" in SKOS/OWL, so that the pieces are mechnically visible [12:02:29] anarchivist | i fucking hate LCSH [12:02:37] ---| User: *** jphipps is now known as jphipps|away [12:02:37] anarchivist | let it be known [12:02:38] danbri | GRDDL is just a convention for delcaring URLs of (typically) XSLT documents that turn not-obviously-RDF files into RDF files [12:02:43] mbklein | anarchivist: C'mon, quit holding back. [12:02:46] JodiS | jbrinley: example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notation3 [12:02:47] anarchivist | mbklein: :) [12:03:00] mbklein | danbri: exactly. [12:03:04] danbri | anarchivist, what would you use instead? [12:03:04] anarchivist | ranganathan FTW [12:03:04] bess | could we do something like "six weeks to a social library" as "six weeks to a semanticly linked library"? [12:03:23] anarchivist | danbri: the FAST stuff is really interesting [12:03:27] jbrinley | JodiS: ok, that's pretty scannable [12:03:30] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@wsip-70-164-25-33.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:03:35] danbri | yeah, I read up on FAST again last week [12:03:38] ---| ---> iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0a971cbb0a3e4b69] has joined #code4lib [12:03:40] * akorphan thinks it's weird that there's no 1:1 correspondence betwen LCSH and LCC [12:03:45] anarchivist | danbri: http://www.oclc.org/research/projects/fast/ [12:03:48] * iand thanks mibbit [12:04:00] anarchivist | akorphan: they grow in parallel [12:04:00] dchud | danbri: it turns 'em into rdf files? not triples? is the rdf serialization pegged to one or another? [12:04:01] mbklein | anarchivist: http://www.walkingpaper.org/128 [12:04:03] danbri | hoping oclc will release more and soon [12:04:10] jbrinley | akorphan: why, they're two very different things? [12:04:12] royt | FWIW, we're hoping to put FAST up as linked data [12:04:14] danbri | dchud ... yeah, it maps into rdf/xml [12:04:24] anarchivist | royt: git er done, mane [12:04:26] royt | already available via an API [12:04:28] danbri | royt, any more news on that? you said last week something might be looming [12:04:32] royt | anarchivist: i hear ya [12:04:33] dchud | ah, okay, i always assumed it was more of a build-a-graph-in-memory thing [12:04:33] anarchivist | royt: link link linky? [12:04:38] danbri | and liberal terms of use? [12:04:38] gsf | anarchivist: did you get in touch with that archival thesaurus person? [12:04:43] akorphan | jbrinley, anarchivist: They are different, but for the most part, a classification suggests a "primary" subject heading. [12:04:55] anarchivist | gsf: yeah [12:04:56] royt | wheels spin slowly, but at least they're moving [12:05:05] gsf | anarchivist: so what's the deal? [12:05:06] anarchivist | gsf: she's pumped on the idea of publishing it as SKOS [12:05:14] gsf | anarchivist: oh, awesome [12:05:24] royt | anarchivist: sweet [12:05:24] akorphan | one presumes that there should exist a function that goes f(lcc ) -> lcsh [12:05:29] akorphan | but there isn't. [12:05:39] danbri | what is "it"? [12:05:40] jbrinley | akorphan: but LCSH isn't just subjects, it's also format, authorship, etc. [12:05:41] mbklein | danbri: Does the target *have* to be rdf+xml? I thought both endpoints were variable in the spec, as long as the end result is a well known RDF format. [12:05:46] danbri | i was looking at UKAT thesaurus SKOS lately [12:05:48] anarchivist | gsf: SAA has copyright though so there should be due diligence [12:05:48] dchud | one is subject headings. the other is a classification system. [12:05:57] * robcaSSon is damn hungry [12:05:59] anarchivist | gsf: the publications chair is my intern's advisor, though [12:06:03] dchud | they don't have to have a clear cross-mapping [12:06:04] danbri | mbklein, the spec probably leaves it open, but general practice is to use something that rdf toolkit parsers understand [12:06:09] anarchivist | gsf: and he seems like he kind of gets this stuff, so i think that won't be a problem [12:06:14] danbri | ... could be more grddl i guess :) [12:06:18] anarchivist | gsf: the data exists as an access DB at least [12:06:24] dchud | y'all, i hope you stay for my talk (next), i promise to go 15min or less and say a few interesting things [12:06:25] gsf | anarchivist: well don't jinx it [12:06:26] JodiS | danbri: thanks, your GRDDL explanation helps [12:06:32] danbri | welcome :) [12:06:34] ---| <<-- iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0a971cbb0a3e4b69] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [12:06:36] gsf | anarchivist: but sounds good. did you get the db? [12:06:44] ---| ---> iand1 [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-20.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:06:44] bess | anyone want a USB key with GIS pre-conference data on it? [12:06:47] dchud | danbri: indeed, thank you for that :) [12:06:47] anarchivist | gsf: not yet, the db isn't up to date [12:06:48] akorphan | they do do different things, but there's a lot of overlap [12:06:49] JodiS | bess: that would be really awesome [12:06:54] mjg_ | jphipps++ # shameless, and awesome. [12:06:56] ---| User: *** iand1 is now known as iand [12:06:57] fak3r | consultant mention! [12:06:57] mbklein | Tha's a lot of tabs. [12:06:58] anarchivist | gsf: but she sounds like she's onboard [12:07:00] akorphan | there is certainly a relationship "suggested" [12:07:15] akorphan | it would be nice if it were somehow explicit [12:07:18] JodiS | bess: have you seen http://semanticlibrary.pbwiki.com/Learning+Program ? [12:07:21] akorphan | to the extent possible. [12:07:28] mbklein | Time to switch the dongle. [12:07:35] fak3r | dchud FTW! [12:07:42] BigD | i'm friggin starving [12:07:48] jbrinley | bess: yes to the GIS data [12:07:50] mjg_ | openzerometalinkedconfsearchdata, commence! [12:07:52] ---| User: *** jphipps|away is now known as jphipps [12:07:54] rsinger | hrm, i guess i could have asked -- "if the funding ran out, will the registry eventually get shut off?" [12:07:59] bess | JodiS: obviously great minds think alike. :) [12:08:04] gsf | BigD: you're like christian bale in the machinist [12:08:05] fak3r | channel mention! [12:08:05] royt | BigD: gnaw on your arm [12:08:07] JodiS | :) [12:08:11] bess | jbrinley: where are you? I'm in the back row in a purple sweater. [12:08:18] rsinger | jphipps: see above [12:08:20] robcaSSon | mbklein: in the dongle jangle morning, i'll follow you [12:08:21] jbrinley | bess: front row, right (green shirt) [12:08:23] fak3r | w00t! [12:08:23] rsinger | jphipps: shoulda asked that [12:08:25] mbklein | The raffle prizes have entered the building. [12:08:28] edsu | hey! [12:08:28] iand | bess: what's the data? [12:08:30] fak3r | damn, I was on screen for a sec! [12:08:30] danbri | rsinger, that's always a good question to ask about registries (sadly...) [12:08:32] jbrinley | bess: I can see you afterward [12:08:34] edsu | where'd my screen real estate go? [12:08:40] gsf | @ana openzerometalinkedconfsearchdata [12:08:42] zoia | gsf: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [12:08:43] JodiS | thanks for the slides, jphipps! :) and the answer [12:08:44] bess | jbrinley: okay, I'll hang out at the back [12:08:44] gsf | ha [12:08:46] * BigD gnaws $20 worth of arm off of gsf [12:08:55] iand | errr I am way behind on scrollback :) [12:08:58] fak3r | dreamhost-- [12:09:01] ---| ---> shekhar [n=shekhar@c-98-216-51-36.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [12:09:08] fak3r | 10 year domain, good idea [12:09:14] wtd | Cool vids on screen. [12:09:15] bess | iand: if you're taking the GIS workshop there was some data you're supposed to download. we're passing it around on DVDs and USB keys so as not to overload the network. [12:09:18] gsf | dreamhost, the most generic host [12:09:24] * mbklein hates dreamhost, but likes their newsletters [12:09:35] rsinger | jphipps++ #thanks [12:09:43] fak3r | gray_text++ [12:09:47] mbklein | Represent! [12:09:48] JodiS | LC-- [12:09:52] robcaSSon | B. A. Chudnov [12:09:53] fak3r | bad_attitude [12:09:55] MrDys | B.A. Chudnov [12:09:57] robcaSSon | needs more mohawk [12:09:58] lbjay | d "bad attitude" chud [12:09:59] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [12:10:07] MrDys | git outta mah brain [12:10:09] fak3r | do we have to knock him out to get on a plane? [12:10:12] robcaSSon | Mr. C. [12:10:16] fak3r | on screen! ha [12:10:26] robcaSSon | get to photoshopping [12:10:30] gsf | oh dear [12:10:31] fak3r | 122? [12:10:36] fak3r | w00t? [12:10:48] jbrinley | fak3r: but only 6 words to a slide [12:11:11] fak3r | "custom software out of the way" yes! [12:11:22] anarchivist | go chudley go [12:11:38] fak3r | he loves data formats... m...ok [12:11:41] gsf | loud clod [12:11:52] fak3r | gsf: ouch [12:11:56] ---| <<-- royt [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-011adf043c13e820] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:11:59] mjg_ | gsf: that's a Malkmus track I'm pretty sure [12:12:03] BigD | he loves gatherings, but hates people [12:12:07] fak3r | cut teeth? [12:12:28] gsf | mjg_: dchud/malkmus connection runs deep [12:12:30] akorphan | My aunt Sally loves meetings, but hates conferences [12:12:30] rsinger | dental library, maybe [12:12:36] akorphan | She adores apples, but can't stand pears. [12:12:40] fak3r | nice reflection on the imgs...so web 2.0! [12:12:56] ---| <<-- mib_2ljr8ssb [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9966b15ccd06a64c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:13:00] mbklein | I love any data format that doesn't end with "ML" [12:13:04] BigD | the reflection is metadata [12:13:04] fak3r | akorphan: I have an Aunt Sally too, nice [12:13:04] JodiS | dchud is brilliant [12:13:06] ---| <<-- eikeon [n=eikeon@dsl092-168-195.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit () [12:13:14] anarchivist | ChesthairML [12:13:15] mbklein | I'm OK with XML, but not every derivative has to end with ML [12:13:15] zoia | Don't cry for me, Metadataaaaa! [12:13:35] fak3r | jazz ftw [12:13:50] akorphan | ready reference++ [12:13:51] BigD | i want $10000 to spend on lenses [12:13:52] fak3r | bird on bottom left [12:14:38] MrDys | pants_up_to_your_ribcage-- [12:14:38] ---| <<-- DHahn [n=dhahn@138.16.59.175] has quit (Connection timed out) [12:14:39] mbklein | click click click click click click click click click click click click click [12:14:45] ---| ---> DHahn [i=DHahn@pptp-0012.vpn.tamu.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:14:53] fak3r | MrDys: always true [12:14:56] mbklein | MrDys: Better than a ribcage down to your pants. [12:15:11] ---| <<-- petercline [n=peter@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("leaving") [12:15:13] fak3r | nice html tables [12:15:14] ---| <<-- DHahn [i=DHahn@pptp-0012.vpn.tamu.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [12:15:38] lbjay | hmm, a petercline sighting [12:15:52] JodiS | FRBR mentions: 3 [12:15:53] akorphan | mmm, beer. [12:15:53] gsf | save frbr for beers [12:15:59] akorphan | Bingo! [12:16:05] mjg_ | FRBR = FoRBeeRs [12:16:13] MrDys | forbearers [12:16:13] jtgorman_ | mbklein: ISBD doesn't end in ML....neither does MARC [12:16:15] mbklein | Wait, "frbr" isn't just an efficient way of ordering FouR BeeRs at once? [12:16:18] lbjay | mjg_++ [12:16:20] fak3r | don't like safari scrollbars in screenshots [12:16:30] anarchivist | mbklein: that's how you do it on twitter [12:16:34] jtgorman_ | just..ahh.saying [12:16:41] mbklein | brtndr! frbr! [12:16:44] ---| User: *** BigD is now known as SweetPea [12:16:50] jtgorman_ | @bartender gsf [12:16:52] * zoia fills a pint glass with Flying Horse Royal Lager, and sends it sliding down the bar to gsf (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/91/1673/) [12:17:05] JodiS | seeAlso [12:17:22] SweetPea | audience is full of shills [12:17:23] JodiS | mjg++ [12:17:29] ---| User: *** SweetPea is now known as BigD [12:17:38] fak3r | BigD: true dat [12:17:42] gsf | <-- #1 dchud shill [12:17:46] bess | jbrinley: do you want a DVD or a USB key w/ the GIS data? [12:18:13] jbrinley | bess: either way. I'll copy it to hard disk and give it back. [12:18:20] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: pyrple - An RDF API in Python || del.icio.us: Developers Guide to Semantic Web Toolkits for different Programming Languages || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Engaging the Global Digital Native: Transforming Technologies || Bigwood, David: Google, Yahoo and MSN Agree on the [12:18:35] anarchivist | BigD: this is the talk that bradw should be hearing [12:18:40] jbrinley | bess: assuming less than 40GB :) [12:18:42] * ranti wants to see dchud's library-reference cloud screen shot, if any. [12:18:49] BigD | anarchivist: yep [12:18:49] mbklein | Is "rel=contents" used by Google to build those results with deep links? [12:19:01] BigD | we'll get to him at dinner [12:19:09] jbrinley | ranti: should be linked from http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/LinkedData eventually [12:19:10] BigD | thinking trinity brewhouse tonight [12:19:23] mjg_ | dchud just took his first breath of the past ten minutes. [12:19:23] anarchivist | BigD: i've already talked sibyl's ear off about this [12:19:31] mjg_ | (I heard it.) [12:19:39] JodiS | I wish dchud could reprise this for everyone [12:19:53] ranti | jbrinley: thanks! [12:19:58] mbklein | JodiS: I think that's why he was trying to record himself. [12:19:59] jbrinley | JodiS: talk 4 times as fast for a lightning talk? [12:19:59] dbs | JodiS: camcorder? [12:20:02] gsf | mjg_: he's been drinking from that vodka thermos pretty consistently [12:20:14] * mjg_ snorts [12:20:17] BigD | JodiS: with a bit more caffeine i bet he could jam the talk into a lightning [12:20:18] jbrinley | vodka > air [12:20:34] JodiS | BigD: he'd have to cut some parts [12:20:41] JodiS | mbklein: I thought that was to put on the web [12:20:48] JodiS | I'm definitely rereading this presentation [12:20:55] anarchivist | hmm hmm hmm [12:21:04] * anarchivist wants faceting based on identifiers [12:21:11] jbrinley | oh, no! [12:21:15] akorphan | wikipedia-- [12:21:22] akorphan | stuff goes away-- [12:21:23] fak3r | register billystrayhorn.com [12:21:24] mbklein | JodiS: "Putting it on the web" == "Reprising it for everyone" [12:21:32] JodiS | mbklein: yes and no [12:21:48] mbklein | JodiS: Yeah, I know. [12:21:53] lbjay | pssst, dchud. edsu is right here! [12:21:54] JodiS | mbklein: dchud in person is way more awesome than dchud on the web. [12:22:14] BigD | JodiS: i'm just the opposite [12:22:16] ranti | mbklein: it's more fun to watch dchud waves his hands while talking [12:22:17] edsu | it broke anders data [12:22:23] mjg_ | edsu++ # good point [12:22:25] edsu | and his venture [12:22:28] rsinger | edsu: did it? [12:22:29] mbklein | The new Apple iChud. "Dan. For everyone." [12:22:37] edsu | rsinger: yeah [12:22:39] rsinger | edsu: the uris still identified the same thing, right? [12:22:41] bess | mbklein++ [12:22:42] anarchivist | rsinger: yeah definitely [12:22:43] JodiS | edsu: SAY that [12:22:53] JodiS | mbklein++ #lol [12:22:56] anarchivist | edsu: yeah, if anyone you can tell chudley to STFU [12:23:03] edsu | 404-data! [12:23:05] mjg_ | 404'd_data++ [12:23:15] JodiS | 404'd_data-- [12:23:17] lbjay | but they'll never break our spirits! [12:23:20] anarchivist | WHAT WE NEED IS AN ONTOLOGY TO REPRESENT 404D DATA [12:23:21] JodiS | 404'd_data-- [12:23:21] JodiS | 404'd_data-- [12:23:22] JodiS | 404'd_data-- [12:23:40] mbklein | Delinked Data < Unlinked Data [12:24:00] mbklein | Better to have linked and lost than never to have linked at all? NO! [12:24:04] lbjay | software, like a web browser? [12:24:06] edsu | rsinger: it only broke i guess if he didn't cache the data he cared about locally [12:24:06] anarchivist | NOTHING LASTS 4EVA ON TEH INTERNETS [12:24:11] mjg_ | ... print out all the linked data pages? [12:24:13] rsinger | edsu: right [12:24:16] gsf | mbklein++ [12:24:19] anarchivist | mjg_: print out and ocr them! [12:24:22] jbrinley | mjg_++ [12:24:23] BigD | burn the web [12:24:23] rsinger | edsu: but that was kind of careless, right? [12:24:26] iand | apparently dbpedia is 404 today [12:24:36] jbrinley | anarchivist: if only I weren't doing that as part of my job [12:24:38] rsinger | edsu: and the URI still means the same thing, right? [12:24:41] edsu | rsinger: not really, all this is new [12:24:43] edsu | imho [12:24:45] anarchivist | jbrinley++ [12:24:47] MrDys | brazillian linked data [12:24:51] iand | hmm, seems to work for me [12:25:01] gsf | ah, so dchud wants us to use handle.net [12:25:03] fak3r | internet archive is supposed to save the web... [12:25:09] lbjay | when does the Lords of the Dance stuff start? [12:25:17] anarchivist | lbjay++ [12:25:30] jbrinley | lbjay: arm waving in the morning, leg kicking in the afternoon [12:25:35] * mjg_ wonders if lbjay is in punching range. [12:25:43] BigD | lbjay: i bet if we start clapping a rhythm... [12:25:47] * robcaSSon takes a bid to kick lbjay [12:25:50] anarchivist | BigD++ [12:25:50] lbjay | jbrinley++ [12:25:52] mjg_ | clapping algorhythms [12:25:52] akorphan | I see this talk leading to a conclusion that commercial interests would not like. [12:25:54] * robcaSSon leans over and coughs [12:25:57] * zoia sneezes [12:26:00] * lbjay dodges [12:26:03] ---| ---> tholbroo [n=tholbroo@hs72260.lib.sfu.ca] has joined #code4lib [12:26:03] JodiS | caching makes sense. importance of identifying canonical stuff [12:26:11] rsinger | edsu: i guess i just don't know what "broke" in libris [12:26:28] BigD | isn't holographic storage supposed to solve all this? [12:26:31] edsu | rsinger: you mean the webapp? [12:26:37] rsinger | edsu: yeah [12:26:40] gsf | BigD: holographic dchud? [12:26:45] edsu | rsinger: or the effort the expended in linking up stuff, to make their data richer? [12:26:50] jbrinley | oh, is that what iChud is? [12:27:02] gsf | jbrinley: arm waving included [12:27:03] akorphan | It's a web-enabled carnivorous mutant. [12:27:04] lbjay | i made you a swedish library but lcsh.info broked it [12:27:07] BigD | gsf: ooo! i could have an iChud in my pocket! [12:27:08] rsinger | edsu: i mean, the follow your nose part is broken, sure [12:27:09] anarchivist | dchud in an one-piece aluminum encasement [12:27:21] BigD | lbjay++ [12:27:26] edsu | rsinger: unless he cached the data, he lost the english alt labels for example [12:27:29] jbrinley | @ana dchud in an one-piece aluminum encasement [12:27:30] zoia | jbrinley: Include up inhumane demoniac [12:27:32] JodiS | crawl parsing http://jodischneider.com/#me still doesn't find me :( [12:27:43] edsu | rsinger: and links to other lcsh broader/narrower/related terms [12:27:52] bess | JodiS: do you need to reference an actual file? [12:27:55] rsinger | edsu: sure, i get that [12:28:06] anarchivist | JodiS: you're not asserting that you know anyone [12:28:21] robcaSSon | JodiS++ # plausible deniability [12:28:23] JodiS | anarchivist: so? crawl finds me, just doesn't parse [12:28:26] BigD | JodiS hates us [12:28:28] wickr | JodiS: it doesn't find that you're an attendee [12:28:31] * JodiS is LAZY [12:28:35] rsinger | edsu: but this is a problem of scale, right? [12:28:49] * lbjay says it "bay-zer" [12:28:55] MrDys | dchud++ [12:28:57] edsu | rsinger: not sure [12:29:09] edsu | dchud++ # this is really good [12:29:19] rsinger | edsu: if there were 1000 users of lcsh.info, the data could probably live without the original via the inferences [12:29:43] lbjay | makes me think of package mirrors [12:29:56] rsinger | it's like LOCKSS -- or, rather, how LOCKSS was originally intended before everybody thought "me first" [12:30:19] gsf | lbjay: that could be a good model to emulate [12:30:25] akorphan | This works until a critical data source decides that it owns all the user-contributed data it contains. [12:30:29] robcaSSon | lbjay++ # really just the "O" of LOD [12:30:33] akorphan | I can think of a certain Ohio-based nonprofit.... [12:30:41] rsinger | akorphan: if only there was an example to draw on for that [12:30:50] akorphan | If only. [12:31:06] lbjay | gsf: seems hackable even [12:31:29] BillDueber | JodiS: Do you think your "swc::atteneeAt" needs an rdf:resource instead of an href? [12:31:41] MrDys | darrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrchives [12:31:43] ---| <<-- bfrederi [n=brandon@wsip-70-164-25-118.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [12:31:43] * BillDueber is talking out of his ass, and doesn't actually know anything about anything. [12:31:47] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@wsip-70-164-25-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [12:32:06] lbjay | lod-get load dbpedia [12:32:12] edsu | so it's ok to give out 3 books using http://inkdroid.org/c4l2009/attendees [12:32:31] JodiS | BillDueber++ #I'll bet that's it. I'm blind :) [12:32:34] gsf | edsu: do it [12:32:49] wtd | edsu: Go for it. [12:33:04] akorphan | i still don't show up. [12:33:06] akorphan | woe am i. [12:33:09] dbs | lbjay: surely you meant the swedish library was borked borked borked borked? [12:33:10] bess | darn it, my foaf disappeard from the attendees list again. :( [12:33:11] robcaSSon | anyone got the google map url handy? [12:33:16] edsu | akorphan: :( [12:33:17] lbjay | dbs++ [12:33:25] robcaSSon | dbs++ [12:33:33] lbjay | edsu: maybe just 2 books? [12:33:35] BigD | where's lunch? [12:33:39] wickr | robcaSSon: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=107701218656997471821.00046117cc493635eebc1&ll=41.825572,-71.390877&spn=0.090438,0.152092&z=13 [12:33:44] robcaSSon | wickr++ [12:33:48] edsu | lbjay: k [12:34:03] robcaSSon | dchud is caching my lunch [12:34:09] anarchivist | robcaSSon++ [12:34:17] edsu | bess, akorphan will try to fix for giveaway in afternoon [12:34:30] edsu | if you win i'll get the books to you [12:34:37] lbjay | robcaSSon: since you're sick aren't you just going to proxy it anyway? [12:34:50] mjg_ | we have talked about having "foaf floaters" to trouble-shoot these issues in the PM session [12:34:50] robcaSSon | lbjay++ [12:34:52] * dlovins wishes he'd take down the "let's eat!" slide. [12:34:59] edsu | heheh [12:35:01] bess | edsu++ # for all of this, thank you [12:35:14] lbjay | edsu++ # the man! [12:35:16] wtd | edsu++ [12:35:16] * edsu stomach rumbles [12:35:22] akorphan | mmm, connective tissue. [12:35:26] jbrinley | it's selected by the people that made the links in the first place [12:35:29] gsf | dlovins: agreed [12:35:35] * anarchivist wants pig parts for lunch [12:35:35] akorphan | soft-tendon pho ftw [12:35:51] jbrinley | dchud has a very elitist definition of "selected" [12:35:52] * bess is craving pho all of a sudden. [12:35:52] * mjg_ will eat everything but the squeal. [12:35:55] edsu | is there pho nearby? [12:36:03] * akorphan thinks that O-Cha on Wickenden does pho [12:36:06] BigD | akorphan: i love pho, but haven't been brave enuf to try tendon or tripe [12:36:13] fak3r | tripe-- [12:36:21] akorphan | It's actually a mostly Thai place, but they do a bunch of soups [12:36:24] jbrinley | @dict tripe [12:36:25] zoia | jbrinley: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: tripe n 1: lining of the stomach of a ruminant (especially a bovine) used as food 2: nonsensical talk or writing [syn: {folderol}, {rubbish}, {trumpery}, {trash}, {wish-wash}, {applesauce}, {codswallop}]; gcide: Tripe \Tripe\, n. [OE. tripe, F. tripe; of uncertain origin; cf. Sp. & Pg. tripa, It. trippa, OD. tripe, W. tripa, Armor. stripen.] 1. The large stomach of (3 more messages) [12:36:30] cazzerson | tripe++ [12:36:39] anarchivist | tripe++ [12:36:42] cazzerson | had menudo for the first time the other day [12:36:54] akorphan | I just can't do it [12:36:56] jbrinley | @ana lining of the stomach of a ruminant [12:36:56] * robcaSSon won't eat menudo until he's hungover [12:36:57] akorphan | organ meat-- [12:36:58] wtd | dchud++ # for socks and sandals [12:36:58] zoia | jbrinley: Homier, nonmagical hot stuff [12:37:03] anarchivist | organs++ [12:37:03] mjg_ | livin' la vida pho-ca [12:37:09] anarchivist | mjg_++ [12:37:15] * dlovins is dreaming of Larb [12:37:21] fak3r | books, books! [12:37:24] bess | dchud: the caching of linked data is something we've been talking about with solrmarc, and Bob Haschart, who is actually going to be building that in the next month or so, is going to come find you to talk about this some more. It's something we're going to do, and we'd like to do it with other people as much as possible. [12:37:24] edsu | oh hai i is edsu [12:37:34] robcaSSon | echud++ [12:37:43] BigD | edsu: pwnd! [12:37:49] fak3r | bess: dchud: I'd like to be in on that [12:37:58] wtd | dchudsu. [12:38:09] gsf | edsud [12:38:15] JodiS | edsu: is it taking 38 minutes to do a crawl now? [12:38:20] rsinger | "Fallen off the Graph" [12:38:32] mbklein | I've given up my Feed Aggregator in favor of a Feed Aggravator. [12:39:14] BigD | can we leave our stuff in the room? [12:39:15] jtgorman_ | when I found out what the food menudo was the bad name made so much more sense ;) [12:39:20] * mjg_ wants a Food Aggregator [12:39:21] fak3r | BigD: my ? too [12:40:32] gsf | mjg_: so close, so far [12:40:39] mjg_ | :(~~~~~ [12:40:45] mjg_ | (crying and drooling) [12:41:11] akorphan | HONGRY [12:41:15] ---| <<-- cazzerson [n=cazzerso@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [12:41:17] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [n=rob@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:41:18] mbklein | mjg_: So (normal(mjg) + crying)? [12:41:19] wtd | Food! [12:41:22] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-22.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:41:26] bess | GIS data up for grabs at the back of the room! [12:41:30] bess | come and get it! [12:41:34] bess | jbrinley: I have DVD for you [12:41:34] * mjg_ snorts [12:41:35] ---| <<-- wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009020911]") [12:41:43] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [12:41:49] jbrinley | bess++ [12:41:51] ---| <<-- cliff_ [n=cliff@wsip-70-164-25-30.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:41:56] ---| ---> papo [i=mathias@libic042.ethz.ch] has joined #code4lib [12:42:22] ---| <<-- mmmmmrob [n=mmmmmrob@62.172.77.66] has quit ("we're off to see the wizard...") 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[13:06:21] ---| <<-- dlovins [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-39.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Success) [13:06:55] ---| ---> eby_ [n=ebyr@99.178.199.246] has joined #code4lib [13:08:08] ---| ---> eom [i=d8a57e66@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ec54872c0cee4af1] has joined #code4lib [13:09:12] ---| <<-- thePersonFormerl [i=837a6839@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ae1181e1f111c259] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:12:03] jtgorman_ | @dnd [13:12:04] zoia | jtgorman_: strength:13 dexterity:7 constitution:14 intelligence:8 wisdom:13 charisma:15 [13:13:54] ---| <<-- ranti [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a71b1f6809978fbd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:14:48] ---| <<-- taco [n=taco@213-132-179-227.multikabel.nl] has quit () [13:15:15] ---| ---> jrochkind100 [i=8a10400b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-52760b7b6315c169] has joined #code4lib [13:15:27] jrochkind100 | The Brown network blocks IRC, huh? BAH I SAY. I hate tecnology. [13:17:27] ---| <<-- hghgd [n=lll@e178021057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ("---") [13:19:40] jtgorman_ | why....why.......do....I....feel......so...weak? [13:20:06] jtgorman_ | oh no..my great weakness....curses....caffeine-free.....curse..it [13:20:18] jtgorman_ | jrochkind100: so...the 8000 port trick doesn't work? [13:21:24] * jtgorman_ is wondering a bit why people seem to be logging in via mibbit via 8000 [13:21:38] jtgorman_ | if mibbit can get in via port 8000 I would think your clients could too [13:21:52] jtgorman_ | duh [13:21:58] jtgorman_ | sorry, I'm feeling stupid today [13:22:10] ---| ---> BLTnoTomato [i=837a6839@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-138052e3e4eb64b5] has joined #code4lib [13:22:11] jtgorman_ | obviously port 80 is probably left open [13:22:31] * jtgorman_ thought the Brown folks already had told them that irc had to be running [13:22:47] jrochkind100 | mibbit is just over the web so of course works. [13:22:59] jrochkind100 | Well, after today we'll be in the hotel only, right? So entirley different network. 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[13:39:25] * BLTnoTomato feels worse after lunch... [13:40:29] jtgorman_ | oh...lunch [13:40:38] jtgorman_ | I knew I forgot to plan in something today [13:42:21] ---| <<-- MattyM [n=matt@62.172.77.66] has quit ("ta ta") [13:42:46] ---| <<-- tomkeays [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [13:45:29] royt | BLTnoTomato: well, next time don't hold the tomato... [13:47:15] jtgorman_ | royt: actually, at this point it may be a better idea to hold the tomato and hold the lettuce [13:47:46] * jtgorman_ hasn't checked to see if there's been any lettuce-related e coli breakouts, but if it can happen to spinach [13:47:51] jtgorman_ | ... [13:49:54] ---| ---> dlovins [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-39.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:50:18] BillDueber | Hold the pickle. Hold the lettuce. Special orders don't upset us. [13:50:23] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has joined #code4lib [13:53:20] ---| ---> MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-62.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:54:35] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-41.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:55:39] ---| ---> iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-20.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:55:42] jbrinley | @quote random [13:55:42] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #1106: "< dchud> anarchivist: tell the truth, you were trolling the personals looking for somebody to match 041 strings with, weren't you?" (added by anarchivist at 02:14 PM, December 28, 2007) [13:55:45] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:57:26] pmurray | @excuse [13:57:28] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:57:34] anarchivist | @quote random [13:57:35] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1020: " I pledge allegiance to the prescription of the United States of Merck" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 12:36 PM, September 19, 2007) [13:57:37] * pmurray still needs to work on that. [13:58:58] jtgorman_ | pmurray: and you can't have an excuse for not getting it done till you do...oh, the irony! [13:59:19] pmurray | jtgorman++ # Yeah, that sums it up! 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[14:04:39] jbrinley | @irony random [14:04:41] zoia | jbrinley: please forward your request to the appropriate tribal leader [14:06:49] ---| <--- scolford [n=scolford@138.16.58.238] has left #code4lib () [14:07:54] ---| ---> akorphan [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3f86c261e4620a5d] has joined #code4lib [14:08:23] MrDys | @band [14:08:24] zoia | MrDys: Thunderstick and the Barcode Readers [14:08:40] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:09:05] ---| <<-- iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-20.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 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(As opposed to the 3000-or-so IRC messages this morning.) [14:14:49] wickr | pmurray: we went to lunch [14:14:57] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-52.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:15:09] pmurray | Ah -- that would explain it. [14:15:10] jbrinley | pmurray: we're coming back... [14:15:23] akorphan | so now will we get to uses beyond discoverability? [14:15:50] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:15:59] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [14:19:08] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-22.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:19:14] MrDys | @cyborg foaf [14:19:16] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Learning - rdflib - End user documentation for learning how to use rdflib - Google Code || code4lib twitter mentions: erikhatcher: @ssiren yeah a very common misconception. It's like saying you need to be a C expert to run MySQL. Added to my #code4lib talk points! [14:19:17] zoia | MrDys: F.O.A.F.: Facsimile Optimized for Assassination and Fighting [14:19:36] ---| <<-- papo [i=mathias@libic042.ethz.ch] has quit ("Verlassend") [14:24:38] royt | @hosts2010 [14:24:40] zoia | royt: Asheville, NC [166]; Austin, TX [157]; Madison, WI [138]; Columbus, OH [102]; Bloomington, IN [72] [14:24:47] * royt weeps [14:24:56] davidWalker | come on Austin! [14:25:05] wickr | Asheville is rallying the troops...again... [14:25:11] anarchivist | asheville++ [14:25:20] pmurray | I guess Columbus is just not an interesting enough place to be... ;-( [14:25:36] anarchivist | pmurray: i would be fine with columbus [14:25:39] davidWalker | but apparently more interesting than Bloomington [14:26:34] ---| <<-- jrochkind100 [i=8a10400b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-52760b7b6315c169] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:27:35] * royt gives Austin a shove [14:27:45] royt | @hosts2010 [14:27:47] zoia | royt: Asheville, NC [172]; Austin, TX [160]; Madison, WI [138]; Columbus, OH [102]; Bloomington, IN [72] [14:27:55] royt | ack! [14:28:20] rsinger | royt: well, you're not in /last/ place [14:28:26] royt | oh well, Asheville sounds nice too [14:28:27] eby_ | @karma not_ohio [14:28:28] zoia | eby_: not_ohio has neutral karma. [14:28:37] ---| ---> saschel [i=9dc10cb5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aab41cc8bd851b0c] has joined #code4lib [14:28:47] royt | rsinger: no, but our proposal was under the deadline ;-) [14:29:01] anarchivist | CHESTHAIRML! [14:29:16] anarchivist | CHESTHAIRDF [14:29:37] BigD | davidWalker: are you in Providence? [14:29:38] akorphan | chesthaiRNA [14:29:51] davidWalker | BigD: I'm sitting right behind you [14:30:00] anarchivist | someone play the crickets again [14:30:05] anarchivist | whoever it was before [14:30:10] BigD | yer so funny [14:30:11] davidWalker | no, just kidding, I'm in San Diego [14:30:30] davidWalker | You know, working the poor University [14:30:31] BillDueber | anarchivist: "Everyday, it's -a - getting closer, rolling faster than a roller coaster..." [14:31:03] ---| <<-- nic221 [i=8094bc0b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-720dbe89c600ee1b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:31:41] akorphan | I wonder how long until the Gap RDAs its shirts. [14:31:46] akorphan | err, RDFs [14:31:55] ---| ---> mib_2vdh7nhv [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c1fc92ef1f52c9d] has joined #code4lib [14:32:09] ---| ---> taco [n=taco@ip565348c1.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #code4lib [14:32:38] anarchivist | *crickets* [14:32:40] anarchivist | *crickets* [14:32:44] anarchivist | *crickets* [14:32:45] pmurray | @dick [sandp eng] [14:32:50] zoia | pmurray: I don't mean to be a dick, but The S&P 500 INDEX is down 14.97 points (1.94%) to 755.08. [14:32:53] fak3r | anarchivist: I second the call for the cricket sound [14:32:55] robcaSSon | anyone want to look at my foaf? http://foam.lib.muohio.edu/foaf.rdf#me [14:33:05] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has joined #code4lib [14:33:12] BillDueber | robcaSSon: I bet you say that to all the girls. [14:33:13] anarchivist | robcaSSon: assert that you know me [14:33:14] robcaSSon | @mfoaf anarchivist [14:33:15] zoia | robcaSSon: sure thing - right after I finish dropping off this replacement keyboard and spare barcode scanner, mmmkay? [14:33:16] BigD | mpark: you won a book! [14:33:17] MrDys | boo. asheville doesn't have an amtrak station [14:33:22] BigD | too bad you can't read [14:33:36] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@216.236.252.231] has joined #code4lib [14:33:37] anarchivist | http://thesecretmirror.com/foaf.xml#matienzo [14:33:40] fak3r | mpark: yeah man, where are you? fedora meeting? [14:34:08] mpark | just looks good on the shelf [14:34:15] mpark | fedora [14:34:15] wickr | robcaSSon: http://foaf.qdos.com/validator/uri?URI=http%3A%2F%2Ffoam.lib.muohio.edu%2Ffoaf.rdf%23me&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+ [14:34:21] mpark | very good [14:34:28] pmurray | robcaSSon: Looks fine: http://foaf-visualizer.org/?uri=http://foam.lib.muohio.edu/foaf.rdf&hash=me [14:34:52] BillDueber | robcaSSon: BillDueber now knows robcaSSon [14:35:01] fak3r | mpark: how's it going? Is dan giving basic overview, or ? [14:35:02] pmurray | Whoops -- maybe not. [14:35:23] ---| <<-- taco [n=taco@ip565348c1.direct-adsl.nl] has quit (Client Quit) [14:35:38] BigD | http://www.declan.net/foaf.rdf there's mine [14:35:51] ---| ---> cschx_ [n=cschx@wsip-70-164-25-14.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:35:55] mpark | fak3r: mostly but some small details that help. plus i picked his brain on the shuttle over [14:36:03] BigD | it barfs a little on the validator, but it got me on edsu's list [14:36:11] fak3r | cool, I need to meet him too, have a few ? [14:36:34] mpark | he said he'd be available offline [14:37:17] ---| <<-- cschx_ [n=cschx@wsip-70-164-25-14.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [14:37:52] * jbrinley knows robcaSSon and BigD [14:37:58] mpark | BigD: take care of my book [14:38:09] ---| <<-- asl2 [n=asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [14:38:18] anarchivist | zzz [14:38:50] * mbklein knows robcaSSon [14:39:05] * anarchivist does too [14:39:08] * robcaSSon knows he keeps screwing up his foaf [14:39:15] anarchivist | gross [14:39:21] ---| ---> cschx [n=cschx@wsip-70-164-25-14.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:39:24] robcaSSon | don't knock it till you try it [14:39:49] danbri | wheres the aggregate / table of contents link again, sorry i lost it... [14:39:54] danbri | for all the foafs [14:40:05] wickr | robcaSSon: you don't need the long form of if you don't want [14:40:09] jbrinley | danbri: http://inkdroid.org/c4l2009/attendees [14:40:23] * mbklein knows BigD, but apparently is not known to him. [14:41:02] charper | robcaSSon: you've got an open tag wrapped around you. [14:41:08] ---| <<-- cliff_ [n=cliff@wsip-70-164-25-30.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:41:12] * pmurray knows BigD and robcaSSon, in the FOAF sense (http://dltj.org/foaf/foaf.rdf#me) [14:41:14] charper | close it and you should be good. [14:41:22] charper | hahahaah - random embedded emoticon... [14:41:37] akorphan | yay, my foaf finally validated. [14:42:10] ---| ---> eikeon [n=eikeon@140.147.245.39] has joined #code4lib [14:42:16] danbri | thanks jbrinley :) [14:42:37] anarchivist | jdatema knows the first rule of code4ib: bring your own dongle [14:42:51] akorphan | dongle sharing spreads disease! [14:42:56] anarchivist | akorphan++ [14:43:04] robcaSSon | wickr++ charper++ [14:43:27] anarchivist | drupalicious [14:43:27] ---| ---> epoz [i=46a41978@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8e794ff5ef9bf4b8] has joined #code4lib [14:43:43] anarchivist | i'm so sleepy but i'm too scared to have any more caffeine [14:44:18] akorphan | I've got the lunch snoozies. [14:44:25] mbklein | mpark: Patrick's been trying to get the two of us introduced. I want to show you my reskinning/repurposing (aka ripoff) of your XForms MODS stuff. [14:44:59] * mbklein read the title slide as "Toward Shamelessness with XML" [14:45:01] mpark | mbklein: you read my mind [14:45:15] BigD | akorphan: me2 [14:45:38] dchud | i wrote that in early 1998 actually. it's a haworth journal, which took a year to publish to print. :( [14:46:35] akorphan | So is Drupal officially pronounced Droople? [14:46:46] akorphan | I always want to make it sound like it rhymes with a drag queen. [14:46:49] mbklein | 1) zoia needs a FOAF. 2) zoia needs a plugin that will let me register my URI, so I can then ask @knows mbklein and @knownby mbklein and get answers. [14:46:55] mbklein | Who wants to hack that with me? [14:47:14] jbrinley | mbklein++ [14:47:39] mbklein | jbrinley: Are you volunteering? :) [14:47:46] jbrinley | mbklein: sure, why not? [14:47:51] mbklein | Excellent. [14:47:57] wickr | mbklein: I think one of edsu's plugins got halfway there, querying the foaf or at least the attendee data [14:48:01] edsu | mbklein: would be a good thing to hack on [14:48:02] jbrinley | mbklein: what's zoia's URI? [14:48:03] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Spalding, Tim (Thingology): Classify your heart out [14:48:34] jbrinley | http://code4lib.org/id/zoia [14:48:49] mbklein | jbrinley: It should probably be hosted at breaksalot.org, since that's where the svn repository is. [14:49:13] anarchivist | drupal++ [14:49:14] wickr | well, it runs on rc98.net [14:49:14] jbrinley | who owns breaksalot.org? is that jaf? [14:49:17] wickr | gsf [14:49:24] mbklein | jbrinley: that's good, too, assuming we can layer RDFa into the wiki. [14:49:25] jbrinley | ah [14:49:40] mbklein | You got the "f" right at least. [14:49:53] jbrinley | mbklein: I think we can put rdfa into code4lib drupal [14:50:10] jbrinley | mbklein: but not sure if I can make pages or aliases [14:50:14] wickr | jbrinley: I think anarchivist was having issues with it [14:50:19] wickr | plus our drupal is currently very old [14:50:23] wickr | you're welcome to try though [14:50:34] jbrinley | wickr++ [14:50:39] anarchivist | wickr: not so much rdfa, but the rdf modules in terms of publishing a simple foaf profile [14:50:47] wickr | ah [14:51:48] royt | ack! i keep getting dropped off the attendees crawl [14:52:02] ---| ---> cliff_ [n=cliff@wsip-70-164-25-30.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:52:05] mbklein | It would be really nice to do both projects, and have zoia's FOAF dynamically generate the tags containing the URIs of those who have made themselves known to the plugin. [14:52:08] rsinger | so, uh.. what are we doing? [14:52:16] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [14:52:16] BigD | mbklein: yer in my foaf... [14:52:20] anarchivist | rsinger: lead the way my friend [14:52:25] wickr | mbklein: zoia already has people registered, would need another field for URI/foaf though [14:52:36] jbrinley | ok, how's this RDFa thing work? [14:52:46] anarchivist | i'd be up for start breaking out into groups [14:52:49] rsinger | anarchivist: i was planning on following more than leading [14:52:51] mbklein | wickr: Yeah, only those who have made their URIs known would actually be n [14:52:58] anarchivist | rsinger: whatever man, you're the champion [14:53:04] mbklein | rsinger: karaoke? [14:53:12] rsinger | but i could talk a bit about rdfa, i suppose [14:53:15] rsinger | not that i know much [14:53:18] scolford__ | karaoke++ [14:53:50] fak3r | anyone want to figure out what we can do with rdf - how sites could pub our FOAFs for example? [14:53:55] jbrinley | rsinger: tell us enought that we can make a zoia foaf page with it [14:54:00] anarchivist | charper: i'm up for talkin' about authorities [14:54:23] anarchivist | dchud: i'm up for getting an authority break out group at some point [14:55:30] fak3r | dchud: I'd like to talk more about caching shared data + distruting content - I'm all for git, like that model [14:55:39] wickr | jbrinley, mbklein: if you want eventually a dynamic foaf for zoia, you'd probably need it on one server, meaning I'm not sure zoia/rc98.net could write to code4lib.org [14:55:40] dchud | anarchivist: cool [14:55:46] * iand wondering if room is not conducive to unconference activities... we're all facing front [14:55:49] anarchivist | hg++ # :) [14:55:53] anarchivist | iand: yeah [14:55:59] anarchivist | iand: that's what im thinking [14:56:02] * robcaSSon is ready to hit the pub [14:56:02] ---| User: *** mib_2vdh7nhv is now known as escowles [14:56:05] rsinger | so i take that as no interest in rdfa? [14:56:06] jbrinley | wickr: oh, good point [14:56:07] anarchivist | iand: plus post-lunch torpor [14:56:13] jbrinley | rsinger: I'm interested [14:56:14] akorphan | mmm, torpor. [14:56:14] iand | yep :) [14:56:32] iand | torpor++ [14:56:41] MrDys | @cyborg torpor [14:56:43] zoia | MrDys: T.O.R.P.O.R.: Technician Optimized for Rational Peacekeeping and Online Repair [14:56:46] akorphan | I fancy a good curry. [14:56:57] jbrinley | rsinger: do you want to take a group into a corner? [14:56:58] akorphan | @cyborg zoia [14:56:58] robcaSSon | @dict torpor [14:57:00] zoia | robcaSSon: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: torpor n 1: a state of motor and mental inactivity with a partial suspension of sensibility; "he fell into a deep torpor" [syn: {torpidity}] 2: inactivity resulting from torpidity and lack of vigor or energy [syn: {listlessness}, {torpidity}, {torpidness}]; gcide: Torpor \Tor"por\, n. [L., from torpere, to be torpid.] [1913 Webster] 1. Loss of motion, or of the motion; (5 more messages) [14:57:01] zoia | akorphan: Z.O.I.A.: Zealous Observation and Infiltration Android [14:57:02] ---| ---> wickr_ [n=wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [14:57:21] anarchivist | NO DONGLE SHARING [14:58:19] robcaSSon | anarchivist: your dongle is in my foaf [14:58:26] jbrinley | note to all: foaf:knows != friend [14:58:28] akorphan | Your foaf is in my dongle! [14:58:48] wickr_ | mbklein: also http://times.usefulinc.com/2003/08/18-foafbot [14:58:52] ---| ---> mbklein_ [n=mbklein@192.80.65.231] has joined #code4lib [14:58:54] akorphan | I'm not really sure what's going on, but everyone is quiet.... [14:59:04] pmurray | I thought in-person meetings were all about dongle sharing... [14:59:18] fak3r | damn macs [14:59:18] ---| <<-- wickr [n=wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [14:59:21] ---| <<-- saschel [i=9dc10cb5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aab41cc8bd851b0c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:59:21] ---| User: *** wickr_ is now known as wickr [14:59:24] pmurray | I mean, it just isn't the same as cyber-dongle-sharing [14:59:40] fak3r | akorphan: mjg said it'd be looser this afternoon, but... [15:00:01] akorphan | the ongle of the dongle is inversely proportional.... [15:00:36] jbrinley | as an attendee here, what I could use is some discrete options [15:00:40] anarchivist | remote dongle framework [15:00:54] akorphan | jbrinley: as opposed to continuous? [15:00:55] jbrinley | tell me "Go to point A for activity X, B for Y, or C for Z [15:01:07] ---| <--- pmurray [n=pmurray@drc-dev.ohiolink.edu] has left #code4lib () [15:01:16] jbrinley | akorphan: as opposed to amorphous, unspecified options [15:01:16] ---| ---> pmurray [n=pmurray@drc-dev.ohiolink.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:01:17] ---| <--- pmurray [n=pmurray@drc-dev.ohiolink.edu] has left #code4lib () [15:01:20] mbklein_ | What's the ghost command again? [15:01:33] dbs | /msg nickserv ghost mbklein password [15:01:34] jbrinley | or a book raffle, to get everyone focused again [15:01:40] ---| ---> pmurray [n=pmurray@drc-dev.ohiolink.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:01:41] anarchivist | jbrinley: someone needs to just stand up and start herding [15:01:42] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has joined #code4lib [15:01:46] fak3r | cricket sound to break the ice? [15:01:50] jbrinley | anarchivist: exactly [15:01:53] anarchivist | *crickets* [15:01:56] jbrinley | who's running this show? [15:02:03] anarchivist | no one apparently :) [15:02:09] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@216.236.252.231] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [15:02:11] pmurray | jbrinley: Jay Jordan [15:02:17] akorphan | it's nice not to have to think for a bit [15:02:20] ---| User: *** mbklein_ is now known as mbklein [15:02:27] * mbklein hates wearing underscores [15:02:34] akorphan | must... resist... postprandial... torpor! [15:02:36] dbs | mbklein: you could always work on a nice LOD version of EDI and get paid at the same time! [15:02:36] mbklein | dbs++ [15:02:38] jbrinley | I don't think anyone running things is paying attention to the channel [15:02:48] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has quit (Client Quit) [15:02:51] fak3r | jbrinley: hopefully not [15:03:19] ---| <<-- eby_ [n=ebyr@99.178.199.246] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:03:28] jtgorman_ | jbrinley: who's speaking now? [15:03:30] mbklein | dbs: I'm having trouble finding the overlap in the domains. :) All things being equal, I'm gonna have to stick with the paying gig. :) [15:03:40] jbrinley | jtgorman_: no one [15:03:52] BigD | jtgorman_: about half of the audience [15:04:02] jbrinley | wickr: is it possible to set a URL on code4lib.org to point to a page on breaksalot/rc98? [15:04:03] dbs | crank it up: http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=420 [15:04:06] jtgorman_ | BigD: oh, sounds like our staff meetings [15:04:07] BigD | while the guys onstage perform the dongle dance [15:04:20] jbrinley | wickr: so we can give zoia a code4lib.org URI, but put her foaf on breaksalot? [15:04:36] ---| <<-- iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-20.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [15:04:36] mbklein | "BigD is now known as BigDongle" [15:04:45] fak3r | there's teh crikets! nice! [15:04:46] ---| ---> iand1 [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-20.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:04:48] jtgorman_ | oooohhhhh, zoia_in_foaf++ [15:04:53] wickr | jbrinley: yeah, I think so [15:04:53] fak3r | please post somewhere so we can all dnld it [15:04:58] ---| User: *** iand1 is now known as iand [15:05:18] mbklein | @seen gsf [15:05:19] zoia | mbklein: gsf was last seen in #code4lib 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: mjg_: so close, so far [15:05:20] jtgorman_ | first step froward for autonomous computerized intelligences [15:05:30] jbrinley | crickets++ [15:05:43] dchud | ok enough with the crickets :) [15:05:45] gsf | mbklein: i'm here [15:05:46] MrDys | what a buncha maroons [15:05:47] jbrinley | where's_the_plus_sign?++ [15:05:52] mbklein | passive_aggressive_snark++ [15:05:54] * akorphan is waiting to get his foaf crawled. [15:05:58] akorphan | ... that sounds dirty. [15:06:01] * jtgorman_ pictures someone rigging a projector that points to the ceiling so that th epresenter can see the channel chatter [15:06:05] BigD | akorphan: aw yeah [15:06:10] jbrinley | gsf: we want to foaf up zoia [15:06:11] gsf | mbklein: thinking about good uri for zoia [15:06:24] cschx | hey, anyone have experience using the various RDF packages for Ruby and want to recommend one? [15:06:32] fak3r | soundfx, damn nice [15:06:38] jbrinley | gsf, mbklein: I think code4lib.org/id/zoia should redirect to a foaf on breaksalot [15:06:50] fak3r | I want to work with Drupal/RDF stuff, installing Neologism now if anyone else wants to breakout [15:07:03] akorphan | it'd be nice if the crawler page printed the time of completion of the last crawl. [15:07:21] danbri | fak3r, you might also look at the ARC toolkit, nice PHP RDF stuff, SPARQL etc... though i don't know if anyone has integrated it with Drupal yet [15:07:24] wickr | akorphan: submit a patch! :) [15:07:31] gsf | jbrinley: do we have access to do that redirect at code4lib.org? [15:07:39] wickr | gsf: yeah, I can do it [15:07:39] * jtgorman_ tries to find a link to one of the glasses w/ builtin in display but fails [15:07:39] jbrinley | gsf: wickr said we could [15:07:40] akorphan | I'd have to learn another P language first. [15:07:41] danbri | re RDF/ruby, I recommend against my RubyRdf stuff (2001-3ish). out of date.... [15:07:43] akorphan | I think I'm at my quota. [15:07:48] mbklein | gsf: Can you make a nicely-formed URI that will actually pull from the svn repository, so the FOAF can live within the plugin code? (For easy committer access) [15:07:49] danbri | not sure what best alternative is these days tho [15:07:49] gsf | ok [15:08:01] anarchivist | fak3r: might be up for that [15:08:12] royt | @hosts2010 [15:08:13] wickr | but I'm unsure exactly how the redirect would work [15:08:15] jtgorman_ | deadlinks on medai.mit.edu lab makes me sad :( [15:08:18] zoia | royt: Asheville, NC [172]; Austin, TX [160]; Madison, WI [138]; Columbus, OH [102]; Bloomington, IN [72] [15:08:24] anarchivist | fak3r: i just ran up to the front of the room to talk to about the authorities stuff [15:08:29] jtgorman_ | ah well, play time is over, time to go back to work [15:08:48] jbrinley | what's zoia's plugin svn url, again? [15:09:07] pmurray | jbrinley: http://svn.breaksalot.org/supybot-plugins/ [15:09:14] mbklein | gsf: I don't know how long you've been following, but the idea is to combine zoia's FOAF with a plugin that will let us register our URIs and query relationships. zoia's FOAF would ideally be writable by the plugin to add elements on the fly as people register. [15:09:19] jbrinley | pmurray++ [15:09:38] mbklein | (Is zoia multi-threaded? Would locking be a problem?) [15:09:41] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-27.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [15:09:51] gsf | mbklein: right, and the foaf would be in subversion? [15:10:11] dchud | charper is holding court up here, we should give him the mic [15:10:24] MrDys | @sing beastie boys : pass the mic [15:10:26] zoia | True Feelings Are Shown From The Way That I Talk / And This Is Me, Y'All - I M.C., Y'All / My Name Is M.C.A. And I Still Do What I Please / And Now I'd Like To Introduce I'll Pass The Mic To D. For A Fist Full Of Truth [15:10:28] mbklein | gsf: Yeah. So we can upload the initial copy, but it can be altered by the plugin. Not sure how subversion would deal with that. [15:10:29] BigD | dchud: make it so [15:10:31] anarchivist | dchud: no, don't, it's nice having a breakout [15:10:35] BigD | i'm fading out... [15:10:47] jbrinley | gsf: can we make zoia commit her foaf when it updates? [15:11:25] mbklein | Someone give BigD an octo-shot espresso or something. [15:11:31] ---| User: *** scolford__ is now known as scolford [15:11:39] gsf | jbrinley: i don't think that would be recursive [15:12:03] wickr | gsf: maybe bypass subversion and just let hte plugin publish a static file? [15:12:09] dchud | BigD, anarchivist: it's like having one of you on each of my shoulders whispering in my ear [15:12:15] mbklein | scolford: Have you lodged a shower head complaint yet? Or do you want me to do it? [15:12:16] gsf | wickr: that would simplify things [15:12:50] mbklein | wickr / gsf: Sounds good. [15:13:22] anarchivist | BigD is the devil [15:13:23] anarchivist | obviously [15:13:36] jtgorman_ | mit: why? http://www.media.mit.edu/resenv/badge/? [15:13:41] mbklein | BorgD is the collective [15:13:49] jbrinley | mbklein: ok, made a folder plugins/FOAF for working on this [15:13:53] * mbklein is feeling a little punchy [15:14:05] jtgorman_ | mit: this might be fun....but I can't read your webpage without feeling like I want to rip out my eyeballs [15:14:57] MrDys | Conjunctive Junction [15:15:02] fak3r | sounds personal [15:15:08] ---| <<-- erikstattin [n=erikstat@72-255-24-17.client.stsn.net] has quit () [15:15:33] scolford | mbklein: please be my guest. i'm stuck at Brown for the day. [15:15:44] dchud | quads! quints! octoassertions! [15:16:00] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-27.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:16:22] gsf | jbrinley, mbklein: working on initial /var/www/rc98.net/zoia.rdf on that machine [15:16:42] jbrinley | gsf++ [15:16:44] mbklein | gsf++ [15:16:58] lbjay | let's hope it parses better than ander's foaf file [15:17:06] ---| <<-- DHahn [n=dhahn@138.16.58.19] has quit () [15:17:42] ---| <<-- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [15:17:53] ---| User: *** jphipps is now known as jphipps|away [15:18:00] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: code4lib2009 attendees || Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data [15:18:23] * jbrinley wishes he new something about writing plugins [15:19:04] dchud | jbrinley: hey i'm curious what you thought i said about selection that was elitist [15:19:22] dchud | i mean, i know i'm an elitist, i'm just curious if it was worse than i thought :) [15:19:38] mbklein | jbrinley: Where'd you go? I'll come to you. [15:20:02] BigD | anarchivist: is saddam [15:20:05] jbrinley | dchud: you were talking about how the cloud graph isn't selected, it's just stuff found on the web. but it is selected. it's selected by the people that made the connections in the first place. So it may not be selected by reference librarians, but it is selected. [15:20:19] jbrinley | mbklein: I'm front-right [15:20:21] * akorphan is VE-RY ANG-RY (huff, huff) at his AC adapter. [15:20:28] dchud | jbrinley: oh yeah that's definitely right [15:20:41] lbjay | pmurray: where are you? [15:20:47] jbrinley | dchud: I've no problem with elitism, but you should say that it's not selected by librarians, not that it's not selected. [15:20:53] pmurray | lbjay: Columbus, OH [15:20:57] lbjay | pmurray: oh [15:20:58] dchud | jbrinley: i come from a perspective of "can i run a library with this" ...dunno if that's elitist, but you're right that that's how i was judging it [15:21:13] dchud | good point :) [15:21:27] BillDueber | Is there still a page mapping irc nicks to real names somewhere on the code4lib site? [15:21:35] pmurray | lbjay: There are a couple of other people from OhioLINK there. Thomas Dowling and (I think) John Davison [15:21:43] wickr | BillDueber: yeah, off the irc page I think [15:21:47] * BillDueber wants to be able to look at a nametag and know when the right hook is coming. [15:21:53] lbjay | pmurray: " ERROR - http://dltj.org/foaf/:79:8: Invalid property attribute" [15:21:58] wickr | BillDueber: not something that keeps getting updated though [15:22:11] BigD | BillDueber: I'm dchud [15:22:13] pmurray | lbjay++ # Thanks -- I'll take a look [15:22:21] dchud | BillDueber: I'm Batman [15:22:32] wickr | George Clooney Batman? [15:22:34] lbjay | pmurray: i'm monitoring the crawler to make sure some new folks get on [15:22:40] BigD | you can tell by his gravelly voice [15:22:40] rsinger | michael keaton [15:22:57] akorphan | I imagine I'm the only person at the conference who has "Orphan" as a substring of his badge. [15:22:58] dchud | Michael Keaton Batman with a little bit of Night Shift Michael Keaton [15:22:59] BillDueber | michael_keaton_batman++ # this was a guy who needed a suit to channel his psychosis [15:22:59] BigD | i'm christian bale [15:23:04] BigD | i can't work with you people [15:23:14] anarchivist | BigD++ [15:23:27] MrDys | BigD: say it in a gravelier voice [15:23:41] * BigD eyeballs his growing email queue [15:24:16] mbklein | gsf: Depiction? http://www.peacebuttons.info/IMAGES/0316.1972_Zoia-Horn.jpg [15:25:07] ---| ---> eby_ [n=ebyr@adsl-99-178-199-246.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code4lib [15:25:25] dchud | i fear my lack of sleep is catching up with me quickly [15:25:38] anarchivist | i'm chuck bass! [15:25:42] BigD | me2... where can we score some coccaine? [15:25:49] anarchivist | BigD++ [15:26:41] MrDys | slut must mean something in swedish that it does not in english [15:26:58] pmurray | lbjay: I thought that bit was legal. Let me know if you see the error show up again. [15:27:16] MrDys | ah slut = 'end' auf swedish [15:27:41] mbklein | gsf: Can you easy_install rdflib onto breaksalot.org? Or is it already there? [15:27:55] * jtgorman_ energy level is dropping [15:28:59] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c72ea1384d5977af] has joined #code4lib [15:29:11] gsf | mbklein: python-rdflib is already installed [15:29:22] mbklein | gsf++ [15:29:28] fak3r | [15:29:57] ---| <<-- andyashton [n=chatzill@128.148.178.88] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:30:05] MrDys | nej! nej! [15:30:20] fak3r | they're trying to hack the system! [15:30:56] fak3r | again, macs are the problem...wow [15:31:01] jbrinley | anybody wanting to learn/teach about rdflib, find /me and mbklein in the front-right corner [15:31:07] jbrinley | ^ edsu? [15:31:08] gsf | mbklein: http://rc98.net/img/zoia.jpg [15:31:16] ---| User: *** jphipps|away is now known as jphipps [15:31:21] mbklein | gsf fw [15:31:25] mbklein | s/fw/ftw/ [15:31:32] BillDueber | jbrinley: Including how to get a triplestore up and running without putting a gun in your mouth? [15:31:49] ---| ---> asl2 [n=asl2@adsl-75-3-64-22.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code4lib [15:31:53] dchud | indemnified linked data [15:32:18] ---| ---> andyashton [n=chatzill@128.148.178.88] has joined #code4lib [15:32:30] robcaSSon | "horton shoots a nazi" [15:32:35] anarchivist | robcaSSon++ [15:32:40] fak3r | width = 110% [15:32:43] MrDys | geisel_library's_architecture++ [15:33:05] MrDys | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Geisel_library.jpg [15:33:36] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit () [15:33:40] rsinger | the whole series... "Dr. Seuss Goes to Washington" [15:33:46] rsinger | "On the Road to Whoville" [15:33:53] gsf | mbklein, jbrinley: zoia should have read and write on /var/www/rc98.net/zoia.rdf [15:34:02] jbrinley | gsf++ [15:34:11] ---| ---> rosy1280 [n=rosy1280@155.47.104.38] has joined #code4lib [15:34:24] rsinger | The Dirty Things 1-12 [15:34:56] MrDys | it's like the picture is speaking to me!\ [15:35:04] anarchivist | MrDys++ [15:35:06] * jtgorman_ makes a morose chuckle to himself as a student sends in an email asking why descriptions of the books are so short [15:35:08] fak3r | MrDys++ [15:35:44] anarchivist | @quote add i'd push my fuckin' grandma into solr [15:35:45] ---| ---> design4lib [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ea087ffcf883f68c] has joined #code4lib [15:35:46] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1715 added. [15:36:12] rsinger | Throw Grandma From the Distributed Faceting Index [15:36:14] ---| ---> dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [15:36:17] anarchivist | aunty entity? [15:36:19] MrDys | rsinger++ [15:36:24] anarchivist | WHO RUN BARTERTOWN [15:36:40] anarchivist | LIFT EMBARGO [15:36:46] ---| <<-- akorphan [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3f86c261e4620a5d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:36:49] rsinger | anarchivist: smells like shit to me [15:36:53] anarchivist | rsinger++ [15:37:09] anarchivist | ah, beyond thunderdome. it's like 3+ movies in one. [15:37:15] rsinger | i pretend i'm master blaster when i put che on my shoulders [15:37:21] ---| ---> akorphan [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc80b9d910ef9e83] has joined #code4lib [15:37:32] akorphan | %$#@%$ ctrl-w. [15:37:38] anarchivist | rsinger: the mind of child [15:37:48] anarchivist | CAPTAIN WALKAH! [15:37:53] rsinger | c'est moi, c'est moi, t'is i [15:37:54] ---| <<-- mib_5wd3g5ge [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c4a8ffe0d6e09ceb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:37:58] ---| <--- rosy1280 [n=rosy1280@155.47.104.38] has left #code4lib () [15:38:05] edsu | rsinger: this is going well right? :) [15:38:10] * dchud hums "master blaster" [15:38:11] edsu | rsinger: what were you worried about? [15:38:27] edsu | dchud: that was quiet [15:38:29] rsinger | edsu: is it? [15:39:07] lbjay | ladies & gentlemen, can i FOAF you? [15:39:20] anarchivist | mjg_: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/funny-pictures-your-slippers-have-been-replaced-with-ferrets.jpg [15:39:22] edsu | lbjay++ [15:39:24] dchud | "look upon me! i'll show you the FOAF of the mind!" [15:39:30] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has joined #code4lib [15:39:42] edsu | anarchivist: you want to hack on that archival thesaurus? [15:39:53] anarchivist | edsu: yeah maybe [15:40:04] anarchivist | edsu: either that or pulling out and taking about authorities more [15:40:06] danbri | not this one? http://www.ukat.org.uk/downloads/data.php [15:40:13] edsu | epoz: interested in what pdf tools you used from python [15:40:20] MrDys | dchud: don't light the hotel hallways on fire [15:40:34] dchud | MrDys: thank goodness you got that :) [15:40:40] anarchivist | edsu: wickr already extracted some of the text just using acrobat pro [15:40:44] lbjay | dchud++ # barton fink ref [15:40:53] dchud | a twofer! [15:41:04] dchud | "he's a man! we exchanged PGP keys!" [15:41:04] lbjay | dchud: i needed MrDys's clue [15:41:23] flyingzumwalt | kicking the tires of Django/appengine on mac. running into strangeness. anybody interested in lending a hand? [15:41:28] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:43:46] wickr | danbri: http://www.archivists.org/publications/epubs/thesaurus.asp [15:44:10] epoz | edsu: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/python/pdfminer/index.html [15:44:18] gsf | flyingzumwalt: are you in the linked data room? [15:44:23] epoz | for parsing and text extraction [15:44:29] danbri | "topical facets are academic affairs, administration, classes of persons, corporate culture, events, fields of study, history, infrastructure, sports, and student life" [15:44:31] flyingzumwalt | yep. front row center [15:44:33] danbri | nice, i'd like to see that one! [15:44:39] MrDys | which CMS did he just say that they went with? [15:44:46] dchud | i think i want to hack on some linked data with nodebox tonight. try to make some pictures of something. [15:44:52] dchud | dunno what yet [15:45:02] wickr | danbri: anarchivist's post: http://thesecretmirror.com/linked-data/structured-archival-thesauri [15:45:18] danbri | what's the rights situation? [15:45:19] epoz | edsu: and http://www.swftools.org/ for converting PDFs to SWF (this is the tech behind scribd.com BTW) [15:45:31] danbri | i like thesauri that don't vanish from the web best :) [15:45:38] wickr | danbri: ask anarchivist :) [15:45:44] anarchivist | danbri: SAA has the rights [15:46:09] anarchivist | danbri: i've been emailing the woman who edited the thesaurus and she loves the idea of publishing it in SKOS/whatever [15:46:26] ---| <<-- iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-20.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [15:46:34] danbri | that's great :) [15:46:36] * jtgorman_ wishes he hadn't forgotten his headphones [15:46:36] gsf | flyingzumwalt: i'll make my way up to you [15:46:42] ---| ---> iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-20.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:46:44] danbri | does she have a nicer form than pdf for you? [15:47:26] anarchivist | danbri: access database [15:47:35] anarchivist | danbri: but the PDFs are the most update version [15:47:37] gsf | flyingzumwalt: unless you want to move to the back of the room [15:47:57] ---| <<-- royt [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fbd76406fb29f393] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:48:32] eikeon | poof [15:48:39] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: rdflib 2.4 — rdflib v2.4.1 documentation || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Digital Natives and Professional Searching: Improving the User Experience [15:48:43] danbri | cool! [15:48:50] flyingzumwalt | @gsf I'll slide back when this chat wraps up. [15:48:52] zoia | flyingzumwalt: HFS, shock g = humpty hump?!?!?!!@# [15:48:59] danbri | announce it to public-esw-thes@w3.org if you get it SKOS'd! [15:49:42] eikeon | Hmm... /me learns rdflib bits from zoia [15:49:51] flyingzumwalt | zoia: huh? [15:49:52] zoia | flyingzumwalt: maybe you ought to ask a professional [15:50:00] wickr | flyingzumwalt: don't use @ in here [15:50:09] wickr | flyingzumwalt: unless you want a zoia command [15:50:48] robcaSSon | solr++ [15:50:55] fak3r | solr ftw [15:50:58] dchud | that's really well said [15:51:35] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [15:51:51] gsf | BigD has a manager hat [15:52:02] fak3r | gsf++ [15:52:06] ---| <--- design4lib [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ea087ffcf883f68c] has left #code4lib () [15:52:10] * anarchivist imagines BigD wearing a sombrero [15:52:58] ---| <<-- escowles [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c1fc92ef1f52c9d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:53:15] MrDys | what the f...twitter's hash tag search is acting funky [15:53:25] epoz | anarchivist: I have that thesaurus PDF as a html text file for ya. Can I dump it somewhere? [15:53:44] dchud | feels like something couchdbish might be a better fit for that [15:53:48] dchud | but what do i know [15:53:50] edsu | danbri: so ukat is already skos? [15:53:54] anarchivist | epoz: sure, you can email me [15:54:00] anarchivist | epoz: mark.matienzo@gmail.com [15:54:03] anarchivist | edsu: yeah [15:54:20] ---| ---> phase_bb2 [n=phase_bb@m2e5e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [15:54:22] flyingzumwalt | dchud: ben's looking at couchdb specifically for that. [15:54:27] danbri | I think they made a SKOS version, and Alistair somehow improved it or made an alternate one [15:54:42] danbri | it is very general, covers all kinds of things lightly [15:54:47] danbri | except places [15:54:54] danbri | the rejections website is fun [15:55:11] edsu | epoz++ # for http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/python/pdfminer/index.html [15:55:34] anarchivist | edsu: http://www.ukat.org.uk/downloads/data.php [15:55:54] lbjay | Herbert's MESUR project is using allegrograph [15:55:54] ---| <<-- tomkeays [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]") [15:56:01] anarchivist | mesur++ [15:56:05] anarchivist | hervert++ [15:56:09] danbri | this is great: http://www.ukat.org.uk/thesaurus/rejected.php [15:56:33] danbri | Rejected term: Young women's christian associations [15:56:33] danbri | Help. [15:56:33] danbri | Source: MRC/LCSH [15:56:33] danbri | Status: Rejected [15:56:33] danbri | Reasons for rejection [15:56:34] danbri | Corporate name [15:56:36] edsu | oh duh, didn't see the skos output on that page [15:56:38] danbri | i think that one's an error [15:56:49] anarchivist | Reasons for rejection [15:56:49] anarchivist | Proprietary software deemed too specific [15:56:51] epoz | anarchivist: I am being dense, in stead of mail, just see: http://tudlr.tudelft.nl/beeldbank/code4lib_linked_data_1.html [15:56:51] danbri | since the rejected term is an uncapitalized plural [15:56:59] epoz | you can wget it from there [15:57:09] epoz | and do some regex replace to strip the tags. [15:57:33] ---| ---> papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #code4lib [15:57:41] * jtgorman_ tries to concentrate despite the three conversations going on around him and starts realizing why he might keep getting headaches [15:57:45] lbjay | :w [15:58:08] lbjay | :e my brain [15:58:11] anarchivist | epoz++ [15:58:13] wickr | anarchivist: looks like you can get the depth from the left: ###px CSS [15:58:34] anarchivist | wickr: my head just exploded [15:58:41] ---| ---> cbarr [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-12cf3c54d5eabb04] has joined #code4lib [15:58:42] danbri | tempting to make the rejections into a SKOS thesaurus too. [15:58:48] wickr | epoz++ # none of hte text exports I could do would preserve the depth of the hierarchy [15:58:52] ---| ---> Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has joined #code4lib [15:59:08] * edsu wonders how the gis preconf is going [15:59:20] anarchivist | edsu: i was too lazy to go over there [15:59:21] BLTnoTomato | anyone know of a way to export mediawiki into drupal? [15:59:32] ---| ---> tomkeays [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:59:35] robcaSSon | edsu: i think they were having wifi issues on-campus to [15:59:36] BLTnoTomato | (sorry for the o/t question) [16:00:01] wickr | anarchivist: 1st level is 144, 2nd is 171, 3rd is 204 [16:00:12] wickr | nasty regexes, but doable [16:00:15] anarchivist | wickr: awesome [16:00:22] jtgorman_ | robcaSSon: it would be interesting to see if code4lib actually has a noticable impact on network usage [16:00:46] ---| <<-- cbarr [i=8a10580b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-12cf3c54d5eabb04] has quit (Client Quit) [16:00:49] jtgorman_ | BLTnoTomato: you really don't need to apologize for off topic questions as long as they're vaguely technical [16:00:50] * robcaSSon fires up rtorrent [16:01:27] flyingzumwalt | gsf - where are you sitting? [16:02:08] * BLTnoTomato now wonders how "technical" the question of "What am I doing wrong with my life and how can I improve it" is.... [16:02:33] edsu | did anyone work on the zoia plugin at all? [16:02:52] wickr | edsu: jbrinley and mbklein are hacking on it [16:02:52] jtgorman_ | BLTnoTomato: I wouldn't ask that question here....not because of the nature of it, but the quality of the response. [16:03:06] jbrinley | edsu: feel free to join us [16:03:07] BLTnoTomato | lol... np [16:03:08] pmurray | @sandp eng [16:03:09] jbrinley | edsu: front right [16:03:11] gsf | flyingzumwalt: next to iand [16:03:13] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [16:03:18] pmurray | @dow eng [16:03:21] BLTnoTomato | back to the exporting of mediawiki into drupal then [16:03:22] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [16:03:22] jbrinley | edsu: we could use any sparql expertise you have [16:03:37] anarchivist | BLTnoTomato: http://drupal.org/project/mediawiki [16:04:35] BLTnoTomato | thanks anarchivist, i'll take a look at that one again [16:04:56] akorphan | this is kind of the best afternoon session ever. [16:05:55] epoz | What I am trying to SKOSify, but not managing to focus on: http://www.library.tudelft.nl/ns/MODS-extension/subjects.xml [16:06:02] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c72ea1384d5977af] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:06:13] epoz | my head is too fuzzy :-( what else is new? [16:06:25] akorphan | I can't get my FOAF to get spidered. I blame jmcasden. [16:06:45] wickr | akorphan: what's your URI? [16:06:50] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83de8ad004d866ed] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:07:04] akorphan | http://www4.ncsu.edu/~akorphan/foaf.rdf#akorphan [16:07:12] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d1bf74bbf4a6dd78] has joined #code4lib [16:07:44] akorphan | oh, I see an obvious typo now. [16:07:56] akorphan | I forgot to change all my #mes [16:08:13] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-25.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:08:59] lbjay | i hate when i forget i hate diet coke [16:09:32] fak3r | again, mac = problem [16:09:42] anarchivist | @quote add i have my dongle, i have everything [16:09:42] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1716 added. [16:09:42] gsf | ross + dongle = problem [16:10:05] fak3r | ping [16:10:10] gsf | anarchivist++ [16:10:23] fak3r | just made his icon jump [16:11:51] fak3r | diff talis georgia_tech [16:12:39] gsf | from this angle ross looks a little like neil patrick harris [16:12:46] anarchivist | gsf++ [16:12:48] fak3r | gsf++ [16:13:26] edsu | eikeon: what does it mean if rdflib is spending a long time doing "2009-02-23 16:06:23,513 - rdflib.store.Sleepycat - DEBUG - sync" ? [16:13:30] BigD | MrDys: if you like Geisel's architecture, you might like this shot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/3249021571/in/set-72157613298015450/ [16:13:32] fak3r | he's not using wysiwyg - he's old school! [16:13:44] mbklein | edsu: We could actually use some sparql help over here if you've got a sec. [16:13:52] MrDys | BigD: spacey [16:14:09] dbs | Is "christian association" like "biblical knowing"? Hmm. "young women's christian associations" indeed. [16:14:16] anarchivist | dbs-- [16:14:29] dbs | well deserved, that. [16:14:43] eikeon | edsu: think that's when bdb is syncing data to disk [16:14:47] edsu | mbklein: where you at? [16:15:01] jbrinley | edsu: front right [16:15:05] edsu | eikeon: is it odd that it would take a long time? repeatedly? [16:15:13] ---| <<-- cschx [n=cschx@wsip-70-164-25-14.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [16:15:15] lbjay | crap, i have to set up wsgi to run the attendees app now [16:15:37] edsu | lbjay: you can't run it anymore? [16:15:44] eikeon | Yeah. Wouldn't expect it to take long. Unless you have lots and lots of triples [16:15:46] ---| ---> mib_2vdh7nhv [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eb31ed260636a402] has joined #code4lib [16:15:56] lbjay | edsu: no, i get AttributeError: 'function' object has no attribute 'run' [16:15:57] mbklein | edsu: To your right. All the way to the wall. [16:16:10] ---| User: *** mib_2vdh7nhv is now known as escowles [16:16:11] akorphan | did inkdroid just die for anyone else? [16:16:23] edsu | lbjay: hmm might be able to change it a bit [16:16:24] anarchivist | meow meow meow meow dbpedia [16:16:48] ---| ---> mib_m39kamom [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34f15b5396100a7d] has joined #code4lib [16:16:52] edsu | ERRATA [16:16:52] ---| ---> Ray_Schwartz [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-116.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:17:26] ---| ---> mib_zwshdfxl [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-522fb0398dbcfcf7] has joined #code4lib [16:17:49] anarchivist | akorphan: nope [16:17:51] dchud | is there a list of rdflib's supported store backends somewhere? [16:17:52] mib_m39kamom | can't seem to get on IRC proper... using mibbit (web based) as a workaround [16:17:52] mib_m39kamom | can't seem to get on IRC proper... using mibbit (web based) as a workaround [16:17:57] ---| <<-- phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m625e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [16:17:58] ---| User: *** mib_m39kamom is now known as atz [16:18:06] anarchivist | mib_m39kamom: have you tried port 8000? [16:18:38] * dchud heads to source [16:18:58] edsu | lbjay: bzr pull, does it work now? [16:19:15] MrDys | why is roy_thong.jpg on rsinger's quick link bar [16:19:25] * jtgorman_ wonders how he hasn't heard of uclassify or the LibraryThing contest that apparently ended a month ago [16:19:27] wickr | MrDys++ [16:19:31] anarchivist | MrDys++ [16:19:38] anarchivist | rsinger: NEVAR 4GET [16:20:38] wickr | @hosts2010 [16:20:40] zoia | wickr: Asheville, NC [178]; Austin, TX [160]; Madison, WI [140]; Columbus, OH [102]; Bloomington, IN [72] [16:20:43] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-38.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:21:07] anarchivist | woo asheville [16:21:31] gsf | asheville++ [16:21:33] wickr | they must be holding campaign rallys [16:21:35] lbjay | edsu: it's running but not serving [16:21:39] MrDys | come on austin [16:21:52] ---| <<-- jjtuttle [n=jjtuttle@dli-020102.lib.ncsu.edu] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [16:22:18] ---| <<-- mib_zwshdfxl [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-522fb0398dbcfcf7] has quit (Client Quit) [16:22:31] atz | anarchivist: still get errors on 8000 [16:22:31] atz | anarchivist: still get errors on 8000 [16:22:34] atz | "Error Code: 400 Bad Request. The data is invalid" [16:22:34] atz | "Error Code: 400 Bad Request. The data is invalid" [16:22:35] lbjay | edsu: i am wsgignorant [16:22:45] atz | from the proxy, apparently [16:22:45] atz | from the proxy, apparently [16:22:45] anarchivist | atz: hmm weird, which server [16:23:06] anarchivist | atz: i'm using card.freenode.net:8000 [16:23:13] atz | irc.freenode.net [16:23:13] atz | irc.freenode.net [16:23:37] BigD | who is pushing ashville? [16:23:43] JodiS | @hosts2009 [16:23:44] zoia | JodiS: Brown University/Providence, Rhode Island [269]; Columbus, OH [225]; Southeast Florida [176]; Bahía Blanca, Argentina [105] [16:23:49] JodiS | @hosts2010 [16:23:49] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-38.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:23:50] zoia | JodiS: Asheville, NC [178]; Austin, TX [160]; Madison, WI [140]; Columbus, OH [102]; Bloomington, IN [72] [16:23:53] anarchivist | BigD: @hosts2011 [16:23:54] dchud | i can't get the crawl to run because i don't have a working backing store available [16:24:01] anarchivist | @hosts2011 [16:24:02] jbrinley | iand: can you give us a hand? [16:24:02] zoia | anarchivist: Disco, Tennessee [72]; Aces of Diamonds, Florida [72]; Chicken, Alaska [60]; Hicksville, Ohio [53]; Plain City, Utah [50]; Buddha, Indiana [40]; Monkey's Elbow, Kentucky [14] [16:24:08] jbrinley | iand: front right? [16:24:11] anarchivist | @hosts2011 [16:24:12] zoia | anarchivist: Magazine, Arkansas [100]; Muck City, Alabama [77]; Fifty-Six, Arkansas [3] [16:24:27] akorphan | @hosts2134 [16:24:28] zoia | akorphan: i think there is an xslt for that [16:24:57] rsinger | er, ok -- now what? [16:25:09] fak3r | rsinger: cricket sounds? [16:25:16] rsinger | i heard em [16:25:20] BigD | is this study hall now? [16:25:20] iand | jbrinley: yep? shall I come over? [16:25:21] jtgorman_ | just skimming the scrollback but folks having issues with irc.freenode.net might want to try chat.freenode.net [16:25:33] anarchivist | rsinger: http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=420 [16:25:43] jbrinley | iand: yes, please [16:25:53] jbrinley | iand: rdf/xml problem [16:26:27] atz | arachivist: same problem @card [16:26:28] atz | arachivist: same problem @card [16:26:30] jtgorman_ | I use that and get redirected to kubrick.freenode.net (64.161.254.20) [16:26:34] anarchivist | atz: weird [16:26:44] MrDys | @band [16:26:44] zoia | MrDys: Pragmatica [16:26:49] jtgorman_ | of course, I'm also not actually at the conference ;) [16:26:54] lbjay | edsu: n.m. it's the big-port-blocking network. [16:26:58] wickr | heh, BigD is appearing twice on http://inkdroid.org/c4l2009/attendees [16:27:02] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-93cb0548baff6c30] has joined #code4lib [16:27:23] lbjay | "How big is BigD?..." [16:27:30] BigD | i get 2 books! [16:27:53] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [16:27:53] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has joined #code4lib [16:27:55] BigD | i'm so big, i get nines instead of triples [16:28:03] anarchivist | BigD++ [16:28:58] BigD | someone used www.declan.net/foaf.rdf#dfl and others used declan.net/foaf.rdf#dfl [16:29:05] BigD | and my apache's mapping it [16:29:35] jtgorman_ | hah! [16:29:54] rsinger | huh, so now he get tens? [16:30:11] fak3r | ballot stuffing suspected [16:30:51] wickr | BigD: heh, I used the www version [16:31:19] shoe | is anybody using online presentation softwares for conference slides, like google docs? [16:31:45] BigD | hipsters don't use www [16:31:50] BigD | so... [16:31:53] BigD | where's dinner? [16:32:04] akorphan | Mi Guatemala [16:32:05] BigD | i've got a hankerin for the trinity brewhouse [16:32:07] ---| <<-- andyashton [n=chatzill@128.148.178.88] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [16:32:10] akorphan | out on Allens Avenue. [16:32:18] BigD | akorphan: mexican food? [16:32:29] akorphan | err, Atwells [16:32:34] wickr | BigD: I want to say that that was copied from what you pasted in here [16:32:34] atz | BigD: word [16:32:34] atz | BigD: word [16:32:43] akorphan | BigD: Uhh...Guatemalan. [16:32:47] fak3r | I'm glad firefox keeps crashing on me [16:33:27] cazzerson | trinity is pretty good [16:33:40] ---| <<-- wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009020911]") [16:34:03] BigD | meeting in the lobby at 5:30 to head over to Trinity Brewhouse [16:34:04] akorphan | cazzerson: If you want pubbish food, and you're a smidge richer than Trinity, I'd recommend Red Stripe. [16:34:11] ---| <<-- escowles [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eb31ed260636a402] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:34:17] BigD | i'd like a local good beer [16:34:19] * jtgorman_ pictures a light lager called "son", a dark heavy smoky brew called "father" and a barleywine called "spirit" [16:34:23] robcaSSon | BigD++ [16:34:46] dbs | jtgorman++ [16:36:03] rsinger | akorphan: well, i guess not tonight, but i'd be all about the guatemalan place at some point [16:36:21] BigD | akorphan: i'd like to try that guat place too [16:36:38] BigD | but i've got logistical issues tonight [16:36:41] rsinger | the second best part of going to guatemala was the food [16:36:44] ---| <<-- cazzerson [n=jmcasden@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [16:36:54] atz | jtgorman: or a phat boy, an O.E. and a Mickey's? That's more 3 aspects of the same thing.... [16:36:55] atz | jtgorman: or a phat boy, an O.E. and a Mickey's? That's more 3 aspects of the same thing.... [16:37:26] fak3r | atz: one more for a tripple.... [16:37:42] ---| <<-- scolford [n=scolford@138.16.58.238] has quit () [16:38:12] ---| <<-- akorphan [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc80b9d910ef9e83] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:38:23] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@138.16.58.239] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [16:38:35] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d1bf74bbf4a6dd78] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:38:41] flyingzumwalt | I'm about to tinker with JRuby and Jena. Real RDF for Ruby FTW. Anyone want to join in? [16:38:53] BigD | rsinger: what was the first? [16:39:10] BLTnoTomato | has anyone seen The IT Crowd? [16:39:19] * jtgorman_ supposes one could go the other way and have a beer named after each Ivy League school... [16:39:22] BigD | BLTnoTomato: are you from the past? [16:39:46] BLTnoTomato | bigd, i dont think so, why [16:39:49] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@wsip-70-164-25-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:40:19] BigD | BLTnoTomato: that's one of IT Crowd's catch phrases... [16:40:21] ---| <<-- Ray_Schwartz [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-116.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [16:40:37] BLTnoTomato | oh, i just started watching it last week [16:40:42] BLTnoTomato | have not seen them all [16:40:48] BigD | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd [16:41:23] BLTnoTomato | "...Yeah, you do know how a button works, don't you? No, not on clothes." [16:41:59] ---| ---> JJJ_ [n=JJJ@wsip-24-249-210-4.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:42:04] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [16:42:29] jtgorman_ | BigD: why, why yes I am actually. I was actually brought into this time when my attempts at quantum manipulations went awry in ancient Atlantis. I was flung to the future and attempting to fit in with this far more future, yet more primitive, time [16:42:35] jtgorman_ | BigD: oh, you weren't talking to me [16:43:54] BLTnoTomato | anyone running libguides? [16:44:23] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:45:31] wickr | BLTnoTomato: yeah I think Johns Hopkins just launched with it, ask MrDys [16:45:36] ---| <<-- dlovins [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-39.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [16:45:57] BLTnoTomato | orly... hmmm [16:46:01] ---| ---> dlovins [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-39.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:47:43] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Client Quit) [16:47:50] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: About | Science Collaboration Framework [16:47:56] BigD | jtgorman_: heh ;) [16:48:26] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:50:20] BLTnoTomato | i guess I'm confused- why libguides when there is drupal? [16:51:14] BigD | anyone in a session at Brown with Brad Westbrook? 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[17:03:51] atz | nice [17:03:53] kgs | @known kgs [17:03:54] zoia | kgs: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [17:03:54] ---| <<-- abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [17:04:09] kgs | hrrrmmmm [17:04:15] mbklein | kgs: Don't hammer the pre-alpha. :) [17:04:20] ---| ---> dlovins_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:04:30] kgs | ;-) [17:04:51] mbklein | @reload FOAF [17:04:55] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [17:04:58] mbklein | @known kgs [17:04:59] zoia | mbklein: I don't know kgs's URI [17:05:07] kgs | huh! [17:05:08] ---| User: *** ksclarke is now known as Guest2199 [17:05:14] mbklein | kgs: We'll get there. [17:05:14] gsf | @known gsf [17:05:15] zoia | gsf: gsf's URI is [17:05:27] kgs | where does it get the info? maybe i have it wrong [17:05:32] mbklein | She only knows gsf right now. We haven't implemented @know yet. [17:05:36] jbrinley_ | kgs: zoia has her own foaf [17:05:40] kgs | hah [17:05:44] jbrinley_ | http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf [17:05:46] gsf | kgs: http://rc98.net/zoia#me [17:05:48] jtgorman_ | @bartender kgs [17:05:50] * zoia fills a pint glass with Pilsner Urqeull, and sends it sliding down the bar to kgs (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1/429/) [17:06:03] ---| <<-- cliff__ [n=cliff@wsip-70-164-25-118.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [17:06:04] jtgorman_ | kgs: relax, have a commercial brew [17:06:13] ---| <<-- atz [n=atz@wsip-70-164-25-80.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Viva la Koha") [17:06:14] kgs | jtgorman++ [17:06:28] pmurray | http://foaf-visualizer.org/?uri=http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf [17:06:33] ---| ---> atz [n=atz@wsip-70-164-25-80.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:06:46] jtgorman_ | atz: so how did you beat the network? [17:06:51] ---| ---> kgs_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:07:01] kgs | ah ok... now chatzilla works [17:07:05] atz | jtgorman_: um... i went away and talked to Jay for 15 minutes [17:07:06] ---| <<-- kgs [i=46a41975@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c9cd450643cd0656] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:07:07] ---| User: *** kgs_ is now known as kgs [17:07:19] atz | i think the security came down (perhaps at 5PM?) [17:07:27] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [17:07:45] atz | when i came back colloquy was on 5 channels.. [17:07:46] ---| <<-- dlovins_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [17:08:30] ---| <<-- fak3r_ [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [17:09:16] ejk | Made it to my room: anybody planning to hit a brewery tonight? 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[17:13:07] ---| <<-- tomkeays [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:13:12] ---| <<-- davidWalker [n=chatzill@cpe-76-176-126-94.san.res.rr.com] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [17:13:30] ejk | anarchivist: looks great. Are people meeting in the lobby? [17:13:40] anarchivist | ejk: yes, i believe thats the plan [17:13:47] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-52.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:15:12] ejk | Cool, I'll try heading down around 5:25 and assaulting random people until I find the right group [17:17:06] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-41.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:17:16] ---| ---> scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-80.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:17:17] ---| <<-- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [17:18:35] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-27.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:18:37] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Miles Conrad Lecture [17:19:12] ---| ---> DHahn [i=DHahn@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:20:32] ---| <<-- JodiS_ [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-89.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [17:22:04] ---| <<-- Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [17:23:37] * jtgorman_ heads home to walk the dog, cobble together dinner, make some travel plans, and hopefully relax a little bit [17:23:40] ---| <--- jtgorman_ [n=chatzill@libstfsys11.library.uiuc.edu] has left #code4lib () [17:23:51] lbjay | some folks are waiting until 6:30 to head to the pub too [17:23:53] ---| User: *** anarchivist is now known as anarchivist_room [17:24:09] lbjay | so if you miss the 1st wave, meet in the lobby at 6:30 again [17:24:16] ---| ---> freemoth [n=freemoth@rdsl-0813.tor.pathcom.com] has joined #code4lib [17:24:36] ---| <<-- eby_ [n=ebyr@adsl-99-178-199-246.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit ("Leaving...") 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[18:05:17] anarchivist | at trinity brewhouse [18:08:06] edsu | jbrinley++ [18:08:06] kgs | redrum is very good. they're all very good though [18:08:31] edsu | kgs: load + tag i think yeah [18:08:44] kgs | edsu thanx [18:09:19] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [18:13:11] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [18:13:36] * kgs trinity made me want to brew an oatmeal stout [18:13:44] ---| <<-- abarrera_ [n=abarrera@vpn2-client-a20.Princeton.EDU] has quit () [18:14:11] mbklein | kgs: You can ask zoia to know you know with @know [your-uri] [18:14:20] edsu | kgs: you went there last night? [18:14:22] mbklein | s/know you know/know you now/ [18:14:35] kgs | yes, three of us did a trinity "preconference" ;) [18:14:49] edsu | :-) [18:15:40] scolford | @know http://justgiblets.com/scolford/foaf.rdf#me [18:15:41] zoia | scolford: Your URI is now [18:15:52] scolford | heehee [18:16:22] kgs | @know http://freerangelibrarian.com/foaf.rdf#kgs [18:16:23] zoia | kgs: Your URI is now [18:16:30] kgs | @known kgs [18:16:31] zoia | kgs: kgs's URI is [18:19:15] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [18:19:21] mjg_1 | edsu: working on the slides, I see? [18:19:26] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [18:19:39] * mjg_ was just working on demo notes [18:20:59] kgs | vufind preconf pix: http://flickr.com/photos/evergreen-ils/sets/72157614355981622/ [18:22:40] mjg_ | @know http://lackoftalent.org/michael/id/ [18:22:42] zoia | mjg_: Your URI is now [18:23:05] * mjg_ stumbles off to find food. 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[19:48:44] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Engard, Nicole: ‡biblios.net Video Tutorials || Eaton, Alf: CloudMade [19:57:27] ---| <<-- ksclarke [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [19:57:27] ---| ---> ksclarke1 [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [19:57:45] ---| User: *** ksclarke1 is now known as ksclarke_ [19:59:50] ---| <<-- tvol [n=chatzill@38.219.132.100] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [20:01:43] ---| ---> eby_ [n=ebyr@c-71-206-107-74.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [20:09:55] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [20:15:05] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [20:19:00] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:19:07] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: code4lib | coders for libraries, libraries for coders || del.icio.us: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data [20:20:51] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [20:21:26] ---| ---> sara_bee [n=miker@c-76-97-57-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [20:22:41] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:23:48] JodiS | @know http://jodischneider.com#me [20:23:49] zoia | JodiS: Your URI is now [20:25:07] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:25:57] jbrinley | @know http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [20:25:58] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [20:26:10] jbrinley | @forget jbrinley [20:26:11] zoia | jbrinley: I've forgotten who jbrinley is [20:26:16] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [20:26:16] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know jbrinley's URI [20:26:20] jbrinley | @know http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [20:26:21] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [20:26:25] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [20:26:26] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is [20:26:38] jbrinley | @know http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/test [20:26:39] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [20:26:44] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [20:26:44] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is [20:26:50] jbrinley | @know http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [20:26:50] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [20:27:22] jbrinley | more to come tomorrow... [20:27:55] jbrinley | @known zoia [20:27:56] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know zoia's URI [20:28:31] jbrinley | @know zoia http://www.code4lib.org/id/zoia [20:28:32] zoia | jbrinley: zoia's URI is now [20:28:38] jbrinley | @know zoia [20:28:38] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [20:28:50] jbrinley | whoops [20:29:00] jbrinley | @know http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [20:29:00] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [20:29:05] jbrinley | @known zoia [20:29:06] zoia | jbrinley: zoia's URI is [20:29:55] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-21.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:30:40] chickmarkley | @ana Great Darwin, I'm here [20:30:42] zoia | chickmarkley: A weirder nightmare [20:31:24] jbrinley | wickr: can you make http://www.code4lib.org/id/zoia redirect (303) to http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf [20:32:32] jbrinley | @later tell wickr can you make http://www.code4lib.org/id/zoia redirect (303) to http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf [20:32:33] zoia | jbrinley: The operation succeeded. [20:34:20] royt | anarchivist: ping [20:39:38] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:41:59] ---| ---> jaf [n=jaf@202-169-165-161.aspublic.wlan.sinica.edu.tw] has joined #code4lib [20:42:17] ---| ---> jtgorman [n=jon@c-98-220-253-23.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [20:42:27] jaf | hey all you code4lib'ers, wish I was there! [20:42:43] jtgorman | ditto ;) [20:43:02] jtgorman | odd fact, the wife bookmarked several possible hotels for a trip....all the links now return an error [20:43:26] * jtgorman would have a unique link for each hotel in the chain... [20:49:18] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Lederman, Sol (Federated Search Blog): Alex Wright on the deep web in the New York Times || del.icio.us: supybot-plugins - Revision 673: / [20:52:28] wickr | jaf: hey, what are you doing in taiwan? [20:53:08] jaf | wickr: attending this - http://grl2020.net [20:53:17] wickr | jbrinley: yeah I think I can do that [20:53:29] jbrinley | wickr++ [20:53:52] wickr | jaf: wow, cool [20:54:18] jaf | wickr: yeah, but I'm really sad not to be at c4l [20:54:21] wickr | jbrinley: are you still working on stuff? [20:54:37] jbrinley | wickr: not at the moment, but a few more functions to add tomorrow [20:54:47] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [20:54:48] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is [20:54:59] wickr | ok, just curious [20:55:12] jbrinley | @know jbrinley http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [20:55:14] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [20:55:26] jbrinley | @list foaf [20:55:26] zoia | jbrinley: forget, know, known, knows, and reloadfoaf [20:55:35] jbrinley | don't reloadfoaf [20:55:36] ---| ---> cazzerson [n=jmcasden@wsip-70-164-25-48.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:57:06] jbrinley | reload FOAF [20:57:11] jbrinley | @reload FOAF [20:57:11] zoia | jbrinley: The operation succeeded. [20:57:18] jbrinley | @list foaf [20:57:19] zoia | jbrinley: forget, know, known, and knows [20:59:03] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:06:31] ---| ---> dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [21:14:56] jtgorman | wow, I can't believe how shitty the hotel chains websites are...no wonder people use things like hotels.com [21:15:12] jtgorman | here's a hit...fi you have a autocomplete, don't have return submit the form [21:16:59] jtgorman | I'm almost tempted to go with comfort inn because a) I can bookmark the particular hotel that I'm going to be staying at and b) it hasn' tgiven me a "you've timed out" error [21:21:35] jtgorman | and if you're running a cute little bed and breakfast...don't make me call you just for freaken directions! [21:24:45] * jtgorman goes to check on the dog [21:30:05] ---| <<-- michaeldb [n=michaeld@CPE0012170da427-CM000a739b087e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit () [21:32:49] ---| <<-- DHahn [i=DHahn@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [21:41:45] * eby_ presumes the dog is writing an editorial about chateau le gorman's shitty website [21:46:27] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:46:27] jtgorman | eby_: no, she prefers to blog about the low quality of our food and the general cluelessness of the apes who live in her place. And angry rants at the squirrels in the yard. [21:47:32] jtgorman | eby_: and she has...on occasion...taken advantage of the fact when I'm zoning out in front of the computer and Colleen's not home to help herself to food/move things around/etc. [21:47:42] eby_ | pretty sure the cats here have a truce with the squirrels [21:48:25] eby_ | despite the one being smacked a couple times in the face by one [21:48:57] jtgorman | eby_: I'm picturing a squirrel beating the heck out of a surprised cat [21:49:32] jtgorman | V really wants to catch a squirrel or a rabbit. She's caught one mouse and maybe a second in the yard. [21:49:59] jtgorman | she hasn't figured out how she should react to cats yet [21:50:15] wickr | jbrinley: either I'm doing the redirect wrong or drupal is getting in the way [21:50:39] wickr | or possibly both [21:53:12] jbrinley | wickr: you just doing it in an .htaccess in drupal's root? [21:54:08] wickr | jbrinley: no, the httpd.conf [21:54:50] * jtgorman sighs [21:54:58] jbrinley | wickr: what are you putting there? [21:55:13] jtgorman | so...as much as I hate to say it, I think a "great article" on my article for code4lib journal is most likely spam [21:55:24] jtgorman | there's one link and it leads to a seo website [21:55:26] jbrinley | jtgorman: yeah, looks that way [21:55:28] jbrinley | sorry [21:55:49] jbrinley | jtgorman: I can take the link out but leave the sentiment, if you'd like :) [21:55:56] fak3r | jbrinley: in httpd.conf do you have AllowOverride All for your docroot with Drupal in it? [21:56:11] jbrinley | ^ wickr [21:56:21] jtgorman | jbrinley: nah, just take it out [21:56:28] fak3r | jbrinley: that way it will honor whatever .htacess says (not recommended for production) [21:56:41] wickr | fak3r: not using .htaccess here [21:56:59] jtgorman | jbrinley: I'd rather have my article judged on its merits, if anyone manages to find one ;) [21:57:23] jbrinley | wickr: RewriteRule ^id/zoia$ http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf [R=303] [21:57:25] jtgorman | I just wonder why that seo thought being linked from my article would bump them up... [21:57:38] jbrinley | wickr: within a [21:57:47] wickr | jtgorman: ok I'll try that [21:58:02] mbklein | jbrinley: Are you working on the plugin? I just made a whole bunch o' edits (refactoring, knows support, etc) [21:58:05] wickr | fwiw, right now I have Redirect 303 /id/zoia/ http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf [21:58:11] jbrinley | mbklein: I did a bit earlier [21:58:22] mbklein | OK, I'll try to diff. [21:58:22] jbrinley | mbklein: nothing since about 8:15 [21:58:31] jbrinley | mbklein: added forget [21:58:52] mbklein | jbrinley: Weird. I added forget also, and had checked it in. Was there a merge involved? [21:59:10] jtgorman | I wonder if I could find a comment area of that seo website and say "You stink as far as SEO goes. I mean, you commented on a nobody's article that's has far fewer hits than most other articles on that online journal. Signed nobody" with a link back to my article... [21:59:23] jbrinley | mbklein: I updated before committing, but it didn't tell me about anything [21:59:28] mbklein | OK [22:00:20] wickr | jbrinley: still page not found: http://code4lib.org/id/zoia [22:00:53] mbklein | jbrinley: I apologize in advance if I step on your edit. There's a whole load of diffs, and I'm trying to deal with the conflicts. [22:00:57] jbrinley | wickr: did you restart apache? [22:01:03] wickr | jbrinley: yup [22:01:05] jbrinley | mbklein: no worries [22:01:40] jbrinley | wickr: Add a RewriteEngine On? [22:02:00] dbs | jtgorman: I'm sure I hold the title of article with fewest hits [22:02:37] ---| ---> scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-80.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:02:53] dbs | hey scolford! enjoying the conf I hoe [22:02:59] ---| <<-- eby_ [n=ebyr@c-71-206-107-74.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit () [22:02:59] dbs | err, hope :) [22:03:08] scolford | haha, who you calling a hoe? [22:03:11] scolford | and yes, very much! [22:03:30] wickr | jbrinley: added that, still no [22:03:31] scolford | had a lovely dinner with lovely people tonight [22:03:32] royt | sigh, my FOAF is still getting left off the crawl, wish I knew why [22:03:48] jtgorman | dbs: you finally wrote an article! [22:03:51] jtgorman | dbs: ;) [22:04:02] jtgorman | seriously though, I'm about four issues behind [22:04:06] jtgorman | :( [22:04:19] dbs | jtgorman: uhh, issue #2 dude. OpenSRF? I suck. [22:04:24] kgs | royt what's your foaf file? [22:04:37] royt | kgs: do you mean where? [22:04:44] jtgorman | dbs: heh, now I remember [22:04:47] kgs | yes [22:04:47] dbs | OpenSRF would actually get hits. Linux on lookup laptops? Not so much. [22:04:49] jtgorman | dbs: ; [22:05:04] dbs | scolford: I am insanely jealous. [22:05:11] jtgorman | dbs: so yeah, you did get more hits than me... [22:05:12] scolford | You are missed! [22:05:16] royt | kgs: http://roytennant.com/foaf.rdf#me and it appears and disappears from the list of c4l attendees with fair regularity [22:05:29] jbrinley | wickr: maybe another option, make a page with PHP code using header() to point to the foaf, and give that page a URL alias of id/zoia [22:05:31] royt | and I'm clueless as to why [22:05:35] kgs | yeah I've seen it there [22:05:54] royt | kgs: but i bet not every time :-) [22:06:00] dbs | jtgorman: that must be my hit-inflation bot [22:06:19] jtgorman | dbs: I was thinking that you finally had done something with that one system? [22:06:26] ---| User: *** jphipps|away is now known as jphipps [22:06:37] jtgorman | dbs: sofa-database? Loveseat -ottoman bs? [22:06:40] wickr | jbrinley: ok, I was seeing that in some Google results, not sure that'd work on v.4 though [22:06:41] jtgorman | dbs: something like that [22:07:09] * jtgorman wonders how many people are in their hotel rooms geeking out right now as opposed to discovering the nightlife of Providence [22:07:15] dbs | jtgorman: Oh! http://bar.ca/lounger [22:07:33] jtgorman | of course, that nightlife probably consists of freezing cold [22:07:35] jtgorman | dbs++ [22:07:39] jbrinley | wickr: header("HTTP/1.1 303 See Other");header('Location: http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf'); [22:07:45] kgs | royt it chokes in the validator [22:07:52] royt | wah? [22:07:58] mbklein | jbrinley: plugin temporarily borked. please hold. :) [22:08:05] kgs | maybe you need to apply Reddi Whip (available on the room service menu) [22:08:06] * jbrinley holds [22:08:07] royt | i could have sworn it validated....goes and check [22:08:32] kgs | or an Intimacy Kit [22:08:50] royt | i clearly need more than whipped cream [22:08:53] jbrinley | wickr: or, I guess, header('Location: http://rc98.net/zoia.rdf', true, 303); [22:09:00] wickr | jbrinley: ok, one sec [22:09:59] wickr | heh, that might go out to the rss feed, oops [22:10:38] wickr | duh, need php tags [22:11:22] wickr | jbrinley: it works [22:11:27] jbrinley | wickr++ [22:11:41] jbrinley | wickr: and it's not in the rss feed [22:11:56] wickr | jbrinley++ [22:12:23] jbrinley | if anyone would like to foaf:know zoia: http://www.code4lib.org/id/zoia [22:12:53] jbrinley | she may have some bugs in her graph [22:12:57] jbrinley | those would be my fault [22:13:23] * jtgorman tries again to remember how google map placemarkers work [22:13:38] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [22:13:43] jeff | jtgorman: in what sense? using the api? [22:13:51] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:13:56] royt | I have no clue what is wrong, the validator is no help whatsoever [22:14:07] royt | "The prefix "rdf" for element "rdf:RDF" is not bound" [22:14:12] royt | what?!? [22:14:22] ---| ---> mjg_ [n=mjgiarlo@wsip-70-164-25-16.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:16:29] fak3r | kgs: again with the Reddi Whip, just order it an report back! [22:16:48] mjg_ | I am at long last no longer hungover from last night. [22:16:54] mjg_ | DRINKS ANYONE? [22:16:57] fak3r | wow, at home I never have prime time TV on, now I'm thankful for that fact. [22:17:06] eikeon | Reddi Whip? [22:17:10] kgs | I am mesmerized by TV tonight [22:17:12] ---| <<-- jphipps [n=jphipps@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [22:17:15] fak3r | mjg_: what happened, did you sleep it off? [22:17:19] mjg_ | I have MSNBC on. [22:17:41] kgs | yeah if you are here at c4l check the small room service menu (thanks to the folks who pointed that out :) ) [22:17:41] fak3r | mjg_: as do I, usually. for Olber at 9pm cst [22:17:47] mjg_ | fak3r: yeah, rested most of the afternoon and took nsaids. then had a couple drinks. :) [22:18:22] fak3r | mjg_: sounds good, we took a large crew down to trinity brew - good food, good beer, s-l-o-w service [22:18:29] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Reese, Terry: Finally in Providence [22:18:40] wickr | royt: I don't currently see an error in your FOAF file in the validator [22:18:46] kgs | Trinity was nice last night [22:18:59] royt | wickr: then I don't see why i'm not getting crawled [22:19:02] kgs | wickr huh... I ran itthrough and it stopped (twice) [22:19:23] ksclarke_ | wickr thanks for doing all the data pulling for me... sorry to be a pain [22:19:37] wickr | ksclarke_: it's cool, I understand [22:20:43] kgs | I think if I'm strategic I don't need to go outside til late Thursday morning [22:20:52] mjg_ | kgs++ [22:21:01] wickr | royt: yeah, I remember seeing you on there several times [22:21:06] scolford | I still want to know what they bring if you order an intimacy kit for one. [22:21:19] royt | wickr: right, but then I inexplicably fall off again [22:21:20] mjg_ | a laptop? [22:21:48] scolford | mjg++ [22:21:49] wickr | royt: I also don't think the crawler has been running for several hours now [22:21:52] mbklein | jbrinley: You need to "forget" and "know" again. Your URI is all wrong. [22:22:05] mbklein | @known jbrinley [22:22:06] zoia | mbklein: jbrinley's URI is [22:22:08] royt | wickr: ok, maybe things are cool and i just need to wait for another crawl [22:22:11] royt | thks [22:22:24] mjg_ | @known mjgiarlo [22:22:25] zoia | mjg_: I don't know mjgiarlo's URI [22:22:25] jbrinley | mbklein: hmm, where'd that come from [22:22:33] mjg_ | @known mjg_ [22:22:33] zoia | mjg_: mjg_'s URI is [22:22:36] jbrinley | @forget [22:22:48] jbrinley | @forget jbrinley [22:22:48] zoia | jbrinley: (forget ) -- Forgets the URI associated with the nick of the calling user. [22:23:01] mbklein | @known jbrinle [22:23:03] zoia | mbklein: I don't know jbrinle's URI [22:23:06] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [22:23:06] mbklein | @known jbrinley [22:23:06] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is [22:23:08] zoia | mbklein: jbrinley's URI is [22:23:14] jbrinley | @forget [22:23:16] mbklein | @knows mbklein jbrinley [22:23:17] zoia | mbklein: mbklein and jbrinley do not know each other. [22:23:26] wickr | royt: yeah, either that and it's fine, or there's more than one URI pointing to you (say with the #me and some without) and it's having issues sorting things out, which I think affected several people [22:23:48] mbklein | jbrinley: I accidentally wiped out @forget's feedback in the merge. Fixing now. [22:23:55] jbrinley | mbklein++ [22:24:16] royt | wickr: i tried to check for folks pointing to me w/out the #me, but haven't found anyone with the bad URI since a couple days now [22:24:49] mbklein | @knows mbklein scolford [22:24:51] zoia | mbklein: mbklein knows scolford, but scolford does not know mbklein. [22:25:00] mbklein | @knows mjg_ mbklein [22:25:01] zoia | mbklein: mjg_ and mbklein know each other. [22:25:17] mjg_ | mbklein++ # nifty. [22:25:27] mbklein | @knows mbklein zoia [22:25:29] zoia | mbklein: mbklein does not know zoia, but zoia knows mbklein. [22:25:38] mbklein | :O [22:26:04] mbklein | @knows mbklein foo [22:26:05] zoia | mbklein: I don't know foo's URI [22:26:11] mbklein | Eeeexcellent. [22:26:24] mbklein | @list foaf [22:26:25] zoia | mbklein: forget, know, known, and knows [22:26:30] jbrinley | mbklein++ [22:26:47] jbrinley | mbklein: lightning talk tomorrow or Wednesday? [22:27:18] mjg_ | zoia_lightning_talks++ [22:27:20] wickr | @know http://ryanwick.net/foaf.rdf#me [22:27:20] mbklein | jbrinley: Tomorrow's fine. [22:27:20] zoia | wickr: Your URI is now [22:27:32] mbklein | Hang on...Quick update coming. [22:27:34] wickr | @knows wickr zoia [22:27:37] zoia | wickr: wickr and zoia know each other. [22:27:40] mbklein | @known scolford [22:27:40] zoia | mbklein: scolford's URI is [22:27:44] mjg_ | zoia: how would you begin a lightning talk? [22:27:45] zoia | mjg_: I'm the @decider, and I @decide what's best [22:27:48] jbrinley | mbklein: did you leave in the optional nick arguments (so you can tell zoia about other people)? [22:28:02] jbrinley | @markov [22:28:03] zoia | jbrinley: Hmmm, don't remember the PLU for that... PRICE CHECK ON HORSE PUCKEY! [22:28:06] wickr | @knows wickr jbrinley mbklein [22:28:07] zoia | wickr: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [22:28:14] wickr | ah, only 2 [22:28:44] scolford | @knows scolford zoia [22:28:46] zoia | scolford: scolford does not know zoia, but zoia knows scolford. [22:31:11] mbklein | jbrinley: No, but the refactoring makes it easy to add that in. I didn't want people to be able to screw with each other's info too much. :) [22:31:21] mbklein | @forget [22:31:29] mbklein | oops [22:31:31] mbklein | wait [22:31:34] mbklein | @reload FOAF [22:31:35] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [22:31:39] mbklein | @known [22:31:39] zoia | mbklein: (known ) -- Returns the URI associated with the given nick. [22:31:42] mbklein | @known mbklein [22:31:44] zoia | mbklein: I don't know mbklein's URI [22:31:51] jbrinley | mbklein: I think it should be possible (much as it is with @herald) [22:32:07] jbrinley | mbklein: so we can make assertions about people that aren't necessarily in here [22:32:08] mbklein | @know http://michael.is.outoffoc.us/michael/foaf.rdf#me [22:32:08] zoia | mbklein: Your URI is now [22:32:25] mbklein | jbrinley: Yeah, I'll do it. Won't take long. [22:32:31] mbklein | @forget [22:32:32] zoia | mbklein: (forget me) -- Forgets the URI associated with the nick of the calling user. [22:32:36] mbklein | @forget me [22:32:37] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [22:32:47] mbklein | @known mbklein [22:32:47] zoia | mbklein: mbklein's URI is [22:32:57] royt | i give up, i see no logical reason why i'm not getting crawled [22:33:08] mbklein | OK. Fixing and adding back in ability to F with others' data. :D [22:33:17] jbrinley | royt: time to start looking for illogical reasons [22:33:24] jbrinley | conspiracy_theories++ [22:33:40] royt | jbrinley: yeah, but the lack of evidence is stunning [22:34:01] mjg_ | @known royt [22:34:01] zoia | mjg_: I don't know royt's URI [22:34:04] kgs | it's royt's magnetic field [22:34:14] royt | kgs: i wish ;-) [22:34:23] jbrinley | royt: tell zoia about you, maybe that will help [22:34:33] royt | jbrinley: how? [22:34:38] jbrinley | @help know [22:34:39] zoia | jbrinley: (know ) -- Associates the given URI with the nick of the user making the call. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. [22:35:25] royt | know http://roytennant.com/foaf.rdf#me [22:35:35] royt | @known royt [22:35:35] scolford | @known kgs [22:35:35] zoia | royt: I don't know royt's URI [22:35:36] zoia | scolford: kgs's URI is [22:35:42] jbrinley | royt: use an @ [22:36:22] royt | @know http://roytennant.com/foaf.rdf#me [22:36:23] zoia | royt: Your URI is now [22:36:23] royt | duh [22:36:32] jbrinley | @known royt [22:36:33] zoia | jbrinley: royt's URI is [22:36:33] royt | @known royt [22:36:34] zoia | royt: royt's URI is [22:36:45] mjg_ | @knows royt mjg_ [22:36:47] zoia | mjg_: royt and mjg_ know each other. [22:36:51] BillDueber | @know http://billdueber [22:36:52] zoia | BillDueber: Your URI is now [22:37:01] royt | but does that have anything to do with the crawl? [22:37:03] jbrinley | @knows royt jbrinley [22:37:05] zoia | jbrinley: royt and jbrinley know each other. [22:37:07] BillDueber | @know http://www.billdueber.com/foaf.rdf [22:37:07] zoia | BillDueber: Your URI is now [22:37:17] scolford | @knows scolford kgs [22:37:18] ksclarke_ | @know http://kevinclarke.info/foaf.rdf#me [22:37:19] zoia | scolford: scolford knows kgs, but kgs does not know scolford. [22:37:20] zoia | ksclarke_: Your URI is now [22:37:30] mjg_ | royt: naw, but it affirms the validity of yer foaf at least. [22:37:39] scolford | @knows scolford zoia [22:37:41] zoia | scolford: scolford does not know zoia, but zoia knows scolford. [22:37:45] royt | ok, so now I know it isn't a validity problem... [22:37:48] jbrinley | royt: presumably, zoia should also be crawled as an attendee, and will link to you (not that it matters, since other people already link to you) [22:37:55] mjg_ | @help know [22:37:55] zoia | mjg_: (know ) -- Associates the given URI with the nick of the user making the call. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. [22:38:09] royt | jbrinley: but that hasn't seemed to help [22:38:11] fak3r | fyi, the dresser knobs in the hotel rooms open a beer bottle easily [22:38:13] BillDueber | @help knows [22:38:13] zoia | BillDueber: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [22:38:16] mjg_ | mbklein: so @know wants the foaf URI not the person's URI? [22:38:19] royt | i keep appearing and disappearing [22:38:26] mjg_ | fak3r++ [22:38:42] jbrinley | royt: you've checked your quantum state? [22:38:54] scolford | @fak3r: wish i knew that earlier. the cheap bottle opener room service brought didn't work at all. [22:38:55] zoia | scolford: try feathers next time [22:39:02] scolford | oops [22:39:29] royt | jbrinley: yeah, i've just this side of quark, which is where i should be ;-) [22:39:30] mbklein | scolford: treating_irc_like_twitter-- [22:39:37] royt | s/I've/I'm/ [22:39:40] mbklein | @reload FOAF [22:39:41] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [22:39:43] scolford | mbklein: so right [22:39:49] mbklein | @known jbrinley [22:39:49] zoia | mbklein: jbrinley's URI is [22:39:53] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [22:39:54] mbklein | @forget jbrinley [22:39:54] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [22:39:59] mbklein | @known jbrinley [22:40:01] zoia | mbklein: jbrinley's URI is [22:40:06] * jbrinley is unforgettable [22:40:13] fak3r | scolford: and the counter in the bath worked, but took a little chip off the edge...still feel a bit bad about that. [22:40:51] fak3r | I'll likely charge it to the Underhills [22:41:04] scolford | fak3r: destroying_hotel_property-- [22:41:23] kgs | The Cheshire royt [22:41:40] royt | kgs: right, except no smile left ;-) [22:42:06] jaf | @quote random [22:42:08] zoia | jaf: Quote #1147: "< royt> rugged machismo ? how about butt ugly ?" (added by anarchivist at 05:12 PM, January 29, 2008) [22:42:28] kgs | needs to be updated lyrics to Eleanor Rigby re uncrawled foaf [22:43:51] ksclarke_ | @ana cheshire royt [22:43:52] zoia | ksclarke_: Hysteric hero [22:43:58] * ksclarke_ chuksle [22:44:17] fak3r | scolford: I look at it exploration damage, as in, it's not destroyed, just...personalized [22:44:38] scolford | fak3r: improved, i'm sure [22:44:49] ksclarke_ | @ana cheshire ksclarke [22:44:51] zoia | ksclarke_: Shark-like screech [22:44:56] fak3r | scolford: perhaps a bit, yes [22:44:57] ksclarke_ | again, heh [22:45:40] scolford | leaving_your_mark++ [22:45:54] * ksclarke_ thinks it's about time to download djatoka and give it a try [22:46:19] fak3r | scolford: mark++ is an good description [22:47:32] dbs | ksclarke++ [22:47:39] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Murray, Peter: What Does the Google Book Settlement Mean for the Online Book Market? [22:48:09] dbs | OCLC probably forced royt to license his FOAF under a crawler-hostile license [22:48:18] ksclarke_ | dbs: I'm sorry you won't be here to see me squirm [22:48:25] scolford | dbs++ [22:48:39] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:49:22] wickr | stymousisyday blocked 1 week 5 days never edit [22:49:22] wickr | thuttenl active 1 week 6 days never edit [22:49:22] wickr | Braazdoont blocked 1 week 6 days never edit [22:49:22] wickr | chrisabo active 2 weeks 10 hours never edit [22:49:22] wickr | crossref active 2 weeks 11 hours never edit [22:49:24] wickr | Jouslyflozy blocked 2 weeks 12 hours never edit [22:49:27] wickr | CraigQD blocked 2 weeks 18 hours never edit [22:49:28] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-21.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [22:49:29] wickr | goodwriter blocked 2 weeks 20 hours never edit [22:49:32] wickr | Stisywainia blocked 2 weeks 1 day never edit [22:49:34] wickr | neignmagren blocked 2 weeks 1 day never edit [22:49:37] wickr | gosaap blocked 2 weeks 2 days never edit [22:49:39] wickr | browneg active 2 weeks 3 days never edit [22:49:42] wickr | AssulaArold blocked 2 weeks 3 days never edit [22:49:44] wickr | StephenHF blocked 2 weeks 3 days never edit [22:49:47] wickr | LilyStivenson blocked 2 weeks 4 days never edit [22:49:49] kgs | dbs royt had a memorandum of understanding about his foaf, but then it became a unilateral policy, and no one knows why [22:49:49] wickr | soseoradozy blocked 2 weeks 4 days never edit [22:49:52] wickr | Qetiduwexn blocked 2 weeks 4 days never edit [22:49:54] wickr | CKDennis blocked 2 weeks 4 days never edit [22:49:57] wickr | artych blocked 2 weeks 4 days never edit [22:49:59] wickr | ZOJustin blocked 2 weeks 5 days never edit [22:50:02] wickr | preferred blocked 2 weeks 6 days never edit [22:50:04] wickr | XKRoy blocked 2 weeks 6 days never edit [22:50:07] wickr | corpobb blocked 3 weeks 13 hours never edit [22:50:09] wickr | prostorenoru blocked 3 weeks 14 hours never edit [22:50:12] wickr | tmccormick active 3 weeks 2 days 2 days 9 hours ago edit [22:50:14] wickr | pmayr active 3 weeks 2 days 3 weeks 1 day ago edit [22:50:17] wickr | TregeAppape blocked 3 weeks 3 days never edit [22:50:19] wickr | ClassicNancyhere blocked 3 weeks 4 days never edit [22:50:22] wickr | magtamerlan.ru blocked 3 weeks 6 days never edit [22:50:24] wickr | KingXXXxxx blocked 4 weeks 2 hours never edit [22:50:27] wickr | shanlera61 blocked 4 weeks 8 hours never edit [22:50:29] wickr | Biscorpuser blocked 4 weeks 8 hours never edit [22:50:32] wickr | automatic forex... blocked 4 weeks 1 day never edit [22:50:34] wickr | tethealifele blocked 4 weeks 1 day never edit [22:50:37] wickr | Jedsslelo blocked 4 weeks 1 day never edit [22:50:40] wickr | Effishabs blocked 4 weeks 2 days never edit [22:50:42] wickr | drodroki blocked 4 weeks 2 days never edit [22:50:44] dbs | kgs++ [22:50:44] wickr | Deardarma blocked 4 weeks 5 days never edit [22:50:47] wickr | dhanu active 4 weeks 5 days 4 weeks 3 days ago edit [22:50:49] wickr | damn it [22:50:52] wickr | irssi++ # for warning me wickr-- # for hitting the wrong key combo [22:50:53] dbs | wickr++ [22:50:55] fak3r | ksclarke_: you know we're running djatoka to serve all images at BHL (biodiversity heritage library) now? it's running on a Linux box I'm running at Mobot (in st.louis) [22:51:11] ksclarke_ | yeah, I wanted to ask you about your 2/3rd layers of caching actually [22:51:32] ksclarke_ | so did you have to do something special to get the parameterized urls cached in apache and the other thing? [22:51:32] fak3r | ksclarke_: http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/3588821 [22:52:05] ksclarke_ | fak3r: my co-speaker will be demoing your site I believe [22:52:18] ksclarke_ | internet connection willing, that is [22:52:37] fak3r | ksclarke_: I only enabled the disk cache and file cache in apache2 - varnish in front of it won't cache much as there's so much dynamic action in djatoka, but I still prefer having varnish (or haproxy) running the show in front [22:53:16] fak3r | tomcat/djatoka fills up /var/lib/tomcat5.5/temp like crazy - I have a cron job to keep it in check - AFAIK ryan hasn't implemented anything to control it [22:53:17] * mjg_ decides to finish working on presentation tomorrow [22:53:56] fak3r | ksclarke_: great, I'd like to sit in, it was embarassingly simple to implement, save for the UI (which I didn't/can't do) [22:54:23] ksclarke_ | fak3r: we may be directing questions to you :-) [22:55:07] fak3r | ksclarke_: would be happy to help, we were really happy to be early adopters, esp since the proprietary lura-tech solution was being overloadee [22:55:29] ksclarke_ | oh so is that what you had before? for some reason I thought it was aware [22:55:29] ---| <--- mjg_ [n=mjgiarlo@wsip-70-164-25-16.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [22:55:44] ---| ---> akorphan [i=62b63cab@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-507a5681225e96fd] has joined #code4lib [22:56:00] akorphan | greetings, late nite c4l crew [22:56:16] ksclarke_ | greetings akorphan [22:57:23] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [22:58:13] cazzerson | hey ak [22:58:30] akorphan | what's the word on the street, Rockapella? [22:59:17] cazzerson | where. in. the. world. is... [22:59:20] kgs | kinda nice to be at a great conf and not have to worry about speaking [22:59:38] * akorphan dropped 1x10^-1 large on a new power supply, got home, and found that his original power supply had decided to start working again. [23:02:00] dbs | akorphan: thinkpad? [23:02:01] ksclarke_ | kgs: at the moment, I wish I could say that... well, by tonight I'll feel that way at least [23:02:08] akorphan | inspiron [23:02:09] ksclarke_ | tomorrow night [23:02:29] akorphan | my PS is making a disconcerting buzzing noise now, but at least it's charging. [23:02:36] fak3r | akorphan: nice, I was in a conf in perth in the fall, as soon as I plugged in my brick failed. took 3 days to buy a new one (that would only power the laptop, not charge the battery - thanks!) [23:02:41] akorphan | I think it doesn't like AC cable I'm using. [23:03:37] fak3r | ksclarke_: bah, not to worry, if you hit a dead spot in the talk just defer to that blabbermouth from mobot ;) [23:03:55] cazzerson | hm, worked fine on my brick...maybe bad plug fit? weird. [23:04:02] wickr | akorphan: my a/c adapter for my latitude is on it's last breath, I bought a new Kensington last week [23:04:15] scolford | @knows scolford zoia [23:04:18] zoia | scolford: scolford and zoia know each other. [23:04:42] scolford | zoia: I love you. [23:04:43] zoia | scolford: Well, maybe, but this is the problem with tenure: http://mudhead.uottawa.ca/~pete/beard.gif [23:04:44] akorphan | I plugged the ac cable from my mom's inspiron into my brick and it lit up like a good little transformer. [23:05:12] fak3r | has anyone tried a Dell Inspiron Mini 9? I want to pull the trigger for a travel 'top [23:06:07] ksclarke_ | fak3r++ [23:07:11] kgs | fak3r I'm thinking about the ASUS Eee PC 1000HE 10-Inch Netbook [23:07:49] akorphan | newegg has a very similar 10-inch Lenovo which comes with an XP license [23:07:54] akorphan | which might not be important to some of you [23:07:56] JodiS | @known zoia [23:08:35] akorphan | but for those of you who need XPness for work or whatever.... [23:08:42] fak3r | kgs: have looked at that too, but have only played with the 7" screen on the Eee PC [23:09:12] fak3r | akorphan: yep, but I run Debian on all of my servers/workstations, so Ubuntu pre-installed via Dell would be fun [23:09:28] akorphan | definitely [23:09:47] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-50.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:09:48] * akorphan should eventually get around to making one of his old machines into a linux hobby server [23:10:03] fak3r | kgs: there has to be a place in the mall that has the Eee, or at least the MSI Wind to compare. I'd like to try out the Mini 9 keyboard for a decsionmaker [23:10:37] kgs | well, it would violate my plan to not leave the hotel for 2 days but perhaps we could sneak over :) [23:10:38] rangi | i have the hp mini 1000tu [23:10:47] rangi | it doesnt suck [23:10:52] fak3r | kgs++ [23:11:15] * akorphan got an awesome roll-up silicone keyboard at Staples for $8 [23:11:21] akorphan | Deal breaker: big enter key. [23:11:32] kgs | ok... I'm enjoying staying up late but I'm collapsing. nite all [23:11:36] ---| <<-- kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [23:11:45] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [23:12:15] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:12:15] zoia | ALL RISE [23:12:17] ---| <<-- sara_bee [n=miker@c-76-97-57-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit (Connection reset by peer) [23:12:22] ---| ---> sara_bee [n=miker@c-76-97-57-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [23:12:23] jaf | heh [23:12:34] mbklein | I <3 my herald [23:12:47] mbklein | @herald add scolford O HAI [23:12:48] zoia | mbklein: Error: I can't find scolford in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work. [23:13:08] mbklein | @whoami [23:13:08] zoia | mbklein: mbklein [23:13:16] scolford | @whoami [23:13:17] zoia | scolford: I don't recognize you. [23:14:07] ---| <--- SportChick [i=essy@freenode/staff/sportchick] has left #code4lib () [23:14:17] scolford | @register scolford [23:14:18] zoia | scolford: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. [23:14:49] wickr | scolford: /msg zoia register scolford password [23:15:05] scolford | wickr: de nada [23:15:35] scolford | @whoami [23:15:37] zoia | scolford: scolford [23:17:39] scolford | @herald add scolford O HAI [23:17:41] zoia | scolford: The operation succeeded. [23:18:06] fak3r | akorphan: can't find a Lenovo on newegg that's a netbook. Link? [23:18:18] fak3r | rangi: will look at the hp mini 1000tu next, thanks [23:18:29] ksclarke_ | @quote random [23:18:29] zoia | ksclarke_: Quote #546: "< decasm> MARC = MAchine Readable Cacophony" (added by edsu at 11:45 AM, November 29, 2006) [23:20:16] ---| <<-- cazzerson [n=jmcasden@wsip-70-164-25-48.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [23:23:00] mbklein | @reload FOAF [23:23:01] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [23:23:04] mbklein | @known [23:23:04] zoia | mbklein: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke_, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [23:23:16] mbklein | @knows gsf kgs [23:23:18] zoia | mbklein: gsf and kgs do not know each other. [23:23:25] JodiS | @knows mbklein gsf [23:23:26] zoia | JodiS: mbklein and gsf know each other. [23:23:26] mbklein | @knows royt kgs [23:23:27] zoia | mbklein: royt knows kgs, but kgs does not know royt. [23:23:36] JodiS | cool plugin! [23:23:39] mbklein | @known jbrinley [23:23:40] zoia | mbklein: jbrinley's URI is [23:23:44] mbklein | @forget jbrinley [23:23:44] zoia | mbklein: OK, I've forgotten jbrinley's URI [23:23:46] mbklein | @forget jbrinley [23:23:47] zoia | mbklein: I didn't know jbrinley's URI anyway. [23:23:52] mbklein | @known jbrinley [23:23:52] JodiS | @knows mbklein JodiS [23:23:54] zoia | mbklein: I don't know jbrinley's URI [23:23:55] zoia | JodiS: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [23:23:59] JodiS | :( [23:24:03] mbklein | @know jbrinley http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [23:24:04] zoia | mbklein: jbrinley's URI is now [23:24:11] * JodiS probably still has a FOAF problem [23:24:14] jbrinley | mbklein++ [23:24:27] mbklein | JodiS: I tried that on my test server (where I can see the error output). Your FOAF didn't parse. [23:25:06] mbklein | It's probably a good idea to return better error messages, but that's for tomorrow. [23:25:33] ---| <<-- royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-122.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [23:26:04] akorphan | fak3r, re: lenovo: none off the top of my head... I just saw it in the library and asked the person where they got it. [23:31:03] * akorphan apparently still has a FOAF problem. [23:31:37] mbklein | @reload FOAF [23:31:39] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [23:31:40] mbklein | @known [23:31:41] zoia | mbklein: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke_, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [23:31:45] mbklein | @known mbklein [23:31:45] zoia | mbklein: mbklein's URI is [23:31:56] mbklein | @knows mbklein JodiS [23:32:33] mbklein | Did I just kill zoia? [23:32:36] mbklein | @whoami [23:32:36] zoia | mbklein: mbklein [23:33:08] mbklein | @known mbklein [23:33:09] zoia | mbklein: mbklein's URI is [23:33:16] mbklein | @knows mbklein royt [23:33:49] akorphan | @whoami [23:33:49] zoia | akorphan: I don't recognize you. [23:33:57] mbklein | Damn identation problem. [23:34:00] mbklein | @reload FOAF [23:34:01] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [23:34:05] mbklein | @knows mbklein royt [23:34:06] zoia | mbklein: mbklein and royt know each other. [23:34:11] mbklein | @knows mbklein JodiS [23:34:14] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [23:34:16] dbs | python++ [23:34:50] akorphan | @whoami [23:34:51] zoia | akorphan: akorphan [23:35:09] * JodiS is confused at the error: there is no attribute "rdf:resource" [23:35:29] akorphan | @know akorphan http://www4.ncsu.edu/~akorphan/foaf.rdf#akorphan [23:35:32] zoia | akorphan: akorphan's URI is now [23:35:38] akorphan | @knows akorphan [23:35:38] zoia | akorphan: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [23:35:49] akorphan | @known akorphan [23:35:50] zoia | akorphan: akorphan's URI is [23:36:01] akorphan | @knows akorphan mbklein [23:36:03] zoia | akorphan: akorphan and mbklein do not know each other. [23:36:22] akorphan | @knows akorphan cazzerson [23:36:22] zoia | akorphan: I don't know cazzerson's URI [23:36:33] akorphan | figures. [23:44:06] jbrinley | @known mbklein [23:44:07] zoia | jbrinley: mbklein's URI is [23:44:21] mbklein | @reload FOAF [23:44:23] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [23:45:41] jbrinley | @knows jbrinley mbklein [23:45:43] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley knows mbklein, but mbklein does not know jbrinley. [23:45:56] dbs | @known JodiS [23:45:56] zoia | dbs: JodiS's URI is [23:46:06] jbrinley | @knows jbrinley JodiS [23:46:09] zoia | jbrinley: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [23:46:23] akorphan | JodiS is broken! [23:46:30] ---| User: *** jbrinley is now known as jbrinley_sleepin [23:46:34] mbklein | JodiS's FOAF won't parse. I'm trying to get a reasonable error message. [23:46:37] * JodiS is broen [23:46:46] * JodiS 's k key is broen too [23:47:05] JodiS | oh wait: I am not my FOAF! woohoo for that! :) [23:47:11] JodiS | mbklein++ [23:47:16] mbklein | @known jbrinley [23:47:16] zoia | mbklein: jbrinley's URI is [23:47:30] JodiS | who knew that internal FOAF would prove so difficult... [23:47:31] mbklein | @knows mbklein jbrinley [23:47:33] zoia | mbklein: mbklein and jbrinley know each other. [23:48:11] akorphan | @knows akorphan erdos [23:48:12] zoia | akorphan: I don't know erdos's URI [23:48:22] akorphan | oh well, worth a shot. [23:48:35] ---| <<-- ksclarke_ [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Going where the weather suits my clothes") [23:49:10] mbklein | akorphan++ [23:49:17] mbklein | @reload FOAF [23:49:18] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [23:49:23] mbklein | @knows JodiS zoia [23:49:26] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [23:49:32] * mbklein sighs [23:49:51] scolford | @knows scolford zoia [23:49:53] zoia | scolford: scolford and zoia know each other. [23:50:14] jbrinley_slee | mbklein: have you tried it with a generic StandardError? [23:50:33] mbklein | jbrinley_sleepin: No, is that the error from which all others descend? [23:50:42] jbrinley_slee | mbklein: I believe so [23:50:50] jbrinley_slee | mbklein: or, at least most errors [23:50:54] mbklein | OK [23:51:02] * jbrinley_sle really goes to be now [23:51:54] mbklein | @reload FOAF [23:51:54] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [23:51:58] mbklein | @knows JodiS zoia [23:52:00] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [23:52:17] mbklein | I'm gonna debug this one on my own machine. Maybe tomorrow, though. [23:52:36] JodiS | indeed [23:54:25] ---| <<-- scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-80.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Night, kids.") [23:54:51] ---| ---> MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-69.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:57:23] JodiS | @later tell edsu Can you put up your lcsh.info slides at http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/LinkedData ? [23:57:24] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. [23:57:35] JodiS @later tell lbjay Can you put up your vocab slides at http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/LinkedData ? [23:57:35] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. [23:58:02] JodiS | somebody please bug anders & charper too... [23:58:14] MrDys | @later tell bess musicbrainz is using amazon for CD covers. The ASIN is embedded in the MB record and is generating an img url based on that. [23:58:15] zoia | MrDys: The operation succeeded. [23:58:28] fak3r | when do the talks start up tomorrow, 9am? [23:59:16] ---| Channel: JodiS changed the topic of #code4lib to: #c4l09 Monday: continental breakfast 7:45-8:45, welcomes starting at 8:45 [23:59:39] rsinger | JodiS++ --- Day changed Tue Feb 24 2009 [00:00:04] JodiS | keynote at 9:15, but 8:45 is the "talks get started" (meaning welcome & a reprise of anarchivist's awesome HOWTO talk from last year) [00:00:13] ---| <<-- akorphan [i=62b63cab@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-507a5681225e96fd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [00:00:18] MrDys | anarchivist++ [00:00:30] ---| User: *** JodiS is now known as JodiS_zzz [00:01:19] rsinger | what is the 'whatever' room? [00:01:50] fak3r | rsinger: unsure, assume it's the same room we were in today, only extended. [00:02:31] rsinger | fak3r: well, actually it's in the handel room [00:02:44] rsinger | which i think is on the floor above the ballroom? [00:02:46] rsinger | not sure [00:03:02] fak3r | ah, perhaps I need to get out earlier ;) [00:03:55] rsinger | it's mentioned in the 'community and communication' section of the program [00:04:07] rsinger | with, like, the twitter hashtag and stuff [00:04:11] ---| ---> wickr_ [n=wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [00:04:32] ---| <<-- wickr [n=wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [00:04:36] ---| User: *** wickr_ is now known as wickr [00:05:08] mbklein | @known JodiS [00:05:10] zoia | mbklein: JodiS's URI is [00:07:25] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:09:42] mbklein | @reload FOAF [00:09:44] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [00:10:38] mbklein | @reload FOAF [00:10:39] zoia | mbklein: Error: There was no plugin FOAF. [00:10:43] mbklein | @load FOAF [00:10:45] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [00:10:45] ---| <<-- jbrinley_sleepin [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [00:10:48] mbklein | @knows mbklein JodiS [00:10:51] zoia | mbklein: Error: http://jodischneider.com:30:3: Invalid property attribute URI: http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#resource [00:11:48] dbs | @knows ksclarke djakota [00:11:49] zoia | dbs: I don't know ksclarke's URI [00:12:00] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") [00:14:22] mbklein | @known [00:14:22] zoia | mbklein: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, akorphan, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke_, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [00:14:31] mbklein | @known mbklein [00:14:32] zoia | mbklein: mbklein's URI is [00:14:35] mbklein | @forget mbklein [00:14:35] zoia | mbklein: OK, I've forgotten mbklein's URI [00:14:38] mbklein | @forget mbklein [00:14:39] zoia | mbklein: I didn't know mbklein's URI anyway. [00:14:47] mbklein | @know mbklein http://michael.is.outoffoc.us/michael/foaf.rdf#me [00:14:47] zoia | mbklein: mbklein's URI is now [00:14:50] mbklein | @forget zoia [00:14:50] zoia | mbklein: Funny. Not. [00:15:00] mbklein | @known zoia [00:15:08] zoia | mbklein: zoia's URI is [00:15:16] mbklein | @known ksclarke_ [00:15:18] zoia | mbklein: ksclarke_'s URI is [00:15:29] mbklein | @know ksclarke http://kevinclarke.info/foaf.rdf#me [00:15:30] zoia | mbklein: ksclarke's URI is now [00:15:34] mbklein | @forget ksclarke_ [00:15:35] zoia | mbklein: OK, I've forgotten ksclarke_'s URI [00:15:45] mbklein | @knows ksclarke mbklein [00:15:45] zoia | mbklein: I don't know ksclarke's URI [00:15:55] mbklein | @know ksclarke http://kevinclarke.info/foaf.rdf#me [00:15:56] zoia | mbklein: ksclarke's URI is now [00:15:58] mbklein | @knows ksclarke mbklein [00:15:59] zoia | mbklein: ksclarke does not know mbklein, but mbklein knows ksclarke. [00:16:34] mbklein | g'night everybody. [00:16:38] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz") [00:17:43] ---| <<-- jtgorman [n=jon@c-98-220-253-23.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [00:17:50] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Online Research: Zotero Moves Into the Cloud - ReadWriteWeb || del.icio.us: namespace lookup for RDF developers | prefix.cc || del.icio.us: LinkedData - Code4Lib || del.icio.us: OCLC Grid Services Boot Camp (2009 Preconference) | code4lib || Matien [00:24:52] ---| <<-- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [00:29:30] MrDys | @later tell bess ...but if you're querying freebase, fb will store CD covers from wikipedia complete with rights holder information (if available): http://www.freebase.com/view/wikipedia/images/en_id/202459 [00:29:31] zoia | MrDys: The operation succeeded. [00:38:08] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [00:44:46] anarchivist_r | @known anarchivist [00:44:47] zoia | anarchivist_room: I don't know anarchivist's URI [00:45:04] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@32.165.114.230] has quit ("used jmIrc") [00:45:09] ---| User: *** anarchivist_room is now known as anarchivist [00:45:32] anarchivist | @know anarchivist http://thesecretmirror.com/foaf.xml#matienzo [00:45:34] zoia | anarchivist: anarchivist's URI is now [00:45:42] anarchivist | @known [00:45:42] zoia | anarchivist: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, akorphan, anarchivist, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [00:45:52] anarchivist | @knows gsf anarchivist [00:45:53] zoia | anarchivist: gsf knows anarchivist, but anarchivist does not know gsf. [00:45:59] anarchivist | whut. [00:46:27] dchud_ | @know flighty http://old.onebiglibrary.net/misc/foaf.rdf [00:46:28] zoia | dchud_: flighty's URI is now [00:46:32] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [00:46:36] dchud | @known [00:46:37] zoia | dchud: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, akorphan, anarchivist, flighty, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [00:46:48] anarchivist | ugh [00:47:31] ---| ---> mib_78aq6am3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-36cd86e83b85e7d4] has joined #code4lib [00:48:37] ---| <--- mib_78aq6am3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-36cd86e83b85e7d4] has left #code4lib () [00:48:59] MrDys | @know MrDys http://dysinterested.com/foaf.rdf#me [00:49:00] zoia | MrDys: MrDys's URI is now [00:49:10] MrDys | @known [00:49:11] zoia | MrDys: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, akorphan, anarchivist, flighty, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [00:49:28] anarchivist | @knows MrDys anarchivist [00:49:29] zoia | anarchivist: MrDys does not know anarchivist, but anarchivist knows MrDys. [00:49:49] anarchivist | ok i need tou stopgbv playing w rdf and go to bed [00:50:19] anarchivist | ugh [00:52:52] lbjay | @know lbjay [00:52:53] zoia | lbjay: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [00:53:38] lbjay | @know lbjay http://blog.reallywow.com/foaf#me [00:53:39] zoia | lbjay: lbjay's URI is now [00:53:49] dchud | i know this is a mistake... but i'm firing up nodebox. [00:54:17] MrDys | anyone happen to know where breakfast is? I like to know where I need to stumble to in the a.m.m [00:55:14] lbjay | @later tell edsu you should've gone with the smoked cheddar popcorn. this shit is good [00:55:15] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [00:55:50] anarchivist | MrDys: let me know if u find out [00:55:58] * anarchivist had too much naragansett [00:56:10] lbjay | anarchivist smells like people [00:56:17] anarchivist | lbjay++ [00:56:50] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-50.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [00:57:59] MrDys | dear providence, stop being cold. [00:58:04] ---| User: *** MrDys is now known as MrDys_slep [00:58:14] anarchivist | MrDys: apparently, you didnot drink enuf naragansett [00:58:56] lbjay | naragasett is necessary for survival [00:59:31] lbjay | that and smoked cheddar popcorn [00:59:32] ---| <<-- sboyette_ [n=sboyette@75.150.13.105] has quit (Connection reset by peer) [01:00:01] anarchivist | lbjay: where did you get that smoked cheddar popcorn [01:00:08] lbjay | anarchivist: front desk [01:00:21] lbjay | this_hotel++ [01:00:31] anarchivist | lbjay: remind me of that for tomorrow :) [01:00:38] lbjay | anarchivist: will do [01:00:49] ---| <<-- phase_bb2 [n=phase_bb@m2e5e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ("used jmIrc") [01:01:07] ---| ---> phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m6e5e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [01:01:27] ---| ---> sboyette [n=sboyette@75.150.13.105] has joined #code4lib [01:01:57] anarchivist | unfortunately i don't think there's anymore dance music in PVD this week [01:09:55] ---| <<-- sara_bee [n=miker@c-76-97-57-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [01:10:04] ---| ---> danwho [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f41d54a06a33955d] has joined #code4lib [01:10:26] ---| <<-- danwho [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f41d54a06a33955d] has quit (Client Quit) [01:37:14] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-119.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [01:50:58] jaf | @quote random [01:50:59] zoia | jaf: Quote #822: " any jerk that says notepad is all i need to code with is either a shitty programmer or a fucking moron" (added by ksclarke at 03:51 PM, April 10, 2007) [01:51:06] ---| <<-- jaf [n=jaf@202-169-165-161.aspublic.wlan.sinica.edu.tw] has quit () [01:52:59] rangi | yeah, use vim you morons [01:53:14] dchud | jaf! 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[07:42:13] BillDueber | Also, google keeps telling me... [07:42:14] BillDueber | We're sorry... ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. [07:42:46] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [07:43:43] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has joined #code4lib [07:46:03] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [07:49:08] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Panlibus (Talis): A look through the Grid at Code4lib [07:49:38] ---| <<-- erikstattin [n=erikstat@72-255-46-12.client.stsn.net] has quit () [07:50:19] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [07:53:27] BillDueber | Is there a secret to running an irc client on the hotel network? [07:55:53] BillDueber | @know BillDueber http://billdueber.com/foaf.rdf#me [07:55:54] zoia | BillDueber: BillDueber's URI is now [07:56:31] ejk | BillDueber: I'm ssh'ed into a screen session on a server and running IRC from there [07:57:36] BillDueber | ejk: Well, as long as it's easy... Is the hotel blocking high ports? [07:57:54] ---| ---> erikstattin [n=erikstat@72-255-46-12.client.stsn.net] has joined #code4lib [07:58:41] ejk | I think I'm only using 22 and 80 [08:00:51] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:01:15] lbjay | BillDueber: good to know you're getting that too [08:01:20] lbjay | BillDueber: from gmail [08:01:27] ---| <<-- erikstattin [n=erikstat@72-255-46-12.client.stsn.net] has quit (Client Quit) [08:02:30] lbjay | BillDueber: and yes re: the high ports i think. some folks were having problems yesterday [08:02:33] ejk | I just found that the gmail pane of iGoogle works [08:03:31] edsu | are you guys down in the ballroom already? [08:03:58] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:04:13] lbjay | edsu: still drinking coffee in my room [08:04:50] lbjay | does anyone have an alarm clock in their room? I am sans clock [08:05:15] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [08:05:23] * ejk is still in room, looking at alarm clock [08:06:05] edsu | yea, there is an alarm clock in here [08:07:11] edsu | lbjay: heheh re: smoked cheddar [08:07:47] lbjay | edsu: heheh re: you eating that entire bag in < 10 minutes last night [08:08:32] edsu | i was a drunken fool by that point [08:08:50] ---| ---> akorphan [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8731cbd01617033] has joined #code4lib [08:09:01] akorphan | BREEKFUST [08:09:42] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:09:42] lbjay | edsu: crawl.py is very io-intensive. i got an auto-notice from my linode that my disk IO was way up. [08:10:38] lbjay | s/crawl.py/BDB/ [08:10:41] akorphan | i still don't show up on the crawl. I think cazzerson's foaf.rdf might be borked somehow. [08:11:44] JodiS | lbjay: awesome food downstairs--fruit, muffins, bagels, coffee & tea [08:11:56] JodiS | lbjay: we have an alarm clock... odd that you don't [08:12:02] akorphan | the honeydew is actually the right amount of ripe! [08:12:11] * lbjay goes to get ready [08:13:31] ---| ---> BillDueber_ [n=dueberb@141.211.43.192] has joined #code4lib [08:15:42] ---| <<-- BillDueber [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5b8a6e29571102a7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [08:16:04] JodiS | rsinger: the handel 'whatever' room wasn't actually open last night... was dark [08:16:36] ---| User: *** MrDys_slep is now known as MrDys [08:16:44] MrDys | JodiS: where's the food? [08:16:47] * BillDueber_ actually got ssh tunnels to work. First time eva [08:16:50] JodiS | mbklein++ [08:16:53] ---| User: *** BillDueber_ is now known as BillDueber [08:16:57] JodiS | error messages FTW! [08:17:58] kgs | off to eat a continent! [08:18:12] JodiS | /topic #c4l09 Monday: continental breakfast 7:45-8:45, welcomes starting at 8:45. Join us in the ballroom. [08:18:23] ---| Channel: JodiS changed the topic of #code4lib to: #c4l09 Monday: continental breakfast 7:45-8:45, welcomes starting at 8:45. Join us in the ballroom. [08:19:07] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:19:39] akorphan | If you go to the Temple restaurant, there's some graffiti at the entrance. You should check it out and admire it because it's graffiti that was preserved from when the building was an empty husk of a Masonic temple. [08:20:12] ---| ---> mib_jf3p6hdu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-003640de30e7054a] has joined #code4lib [08:20:15] JodiS | MrDys: outside the ballroom [08:20:26] JodiS | graffiti_preservation++ [08:20:35] ---| User: *** mib_jf3p6hdu is now known as fak3r [08:20:38] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [08:20:52] JodiS | akorphan: does zoia @know you? [08:21:06] akorphan | @knows akorphan [08:21:07] zoia | akorphan: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [08:21:14] akorphan | @known akorphan [08:21:15] zoia | akorphan: akorphan's URI is [08:21:23] fak3r | @knows fak3r [08:21:23] zoia | fak3r: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [08:21:48] ---| ---> dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [08:21:50] fak3r | @known fak3r [08:21:51] zoia | fak3r: I don't know fak3r's URI [08:22:12] fak3r | JodiS: how do I tell zoia my foaf uri? [08:22:27] JodiS | @know username uri [08:22:29] zoia | JodiS: Error: 'uri' is not a valid url. [08:22:40] JodiS | @forget username [08:22:41] zoia | JodiS: I didn't know username's URI anyway. [08:22:47] akorphan | zoia: so literal. [08:22:48] zoia | akorphan: wheedly-wheedly-whee! [08:22:51] JodiS | nice error messages! :) mbklein++ [08:22:53] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [08:23:01] * JodiS is a sucker for nice error msgs [08:23:09] JodiS | @list foaf [08:23:11] zoia | JodiS: forget, know, known, and knows [08:23:23] JodiS | @knows mbklein edsu [08:23:24] zoia | JodiS: I don't know edsu's URI [08:23:30] JodiS | @know [08:23:31] zoia | JodiS: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [08:23:33] JodiS | @known [08:23:35] zoia JodiS: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, akorphan, anarchivist, flighty, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [08:23:39] akorphan | can someone add me to their foaf so it'll see if I get crawled? [08:23:44] JodiS | @knows BillDueber scolford [08:23:55] zoia | JodiS: BillDueber and scolford do not know each other. [08:24:11] JodiS | @list todo [08:24:13] zoia | JodiS: add, change, remove, search, setpriority, and todo [08:24:25] JodiS | @add [08:24:26] zoia | JodiS: Error: The command "add" is available in the AudioScrobbler, Dunno, Herald, Poll, Praise, Quote, RSS, Todo, and WordStats plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add". [08:24:31] JodiS | @add todo [08:24:32] zoia | JodiS: Error: The command "add" is available in the AudioScrobbler, Dunno, Herald, Poll, Praise, Quote, RSS, Todo, and WordStats plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add". [08:24:38] JodiS | @todo add [08:24:39] zoia | JodiS: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [08:24:46] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@141.211.43.192] has quit () [08:24:53] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [08:25:36] JodiS | @todo add [08:25:37] zoia | JodiS: (todo add [--priority=] ) -- Adds as a task in your own personal todo list. The optional priority argument allows you to set a task as a high or low priority. Any integer is valid. [08:25:50] fak3r | @know fak3r http://philcryer.com/foaf.rdf#me [08:25:50] zoia | fak3r: fak3r's URI is now [08:25:58] fak3r | JodiS: thanks! [08:26:02] JodiS | np! [08:26:14] JodiS | mbklein++ for hacking it up, IIUC [08:26:18] ---| ---> ecorrado_ [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-68.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:26:32] ecorrado_ | coffee! 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[08:29:54] fak3r | strange, I cannot connect to irc.fak3r.com via clients (irssi/xchat) [08:30:12] fak3r | s/fak3r.com/freenode.net/g [08:30:57] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:31:07] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Client Quit) [08:31:29] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0f9a6a866dec6adb] has joined #code4lib [08:32:10] akorphan | fak3r: Yeah, I had problems connecting directly to freenode. Apparently there's some alternate wireless configuration you can do on port 8000, but it takes some kind of extra setup steps, I think. [08:32:33] JodiS | has anybody managed to get an iphone on ipod touch onto the hotel network? [08:32:51] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:33:27] fak3r | akorphan: weird, worked a-ok for me yesterday, hope I have ssh out [08:33:38] ---| ---> BLTnoTomato [i=837a6839@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-57ae94ad6d6f9f23] has joined #code4lib [08:34:03] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [08:35:25] JodiS | is anybody using trillium today? [08:35:56] ecorrado | JodiS: you need to call ibahn and have them do something to get the iPhone/itouch to work [08:35:59] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-91ae737b8e094ff2] has joined #code4lib [08:37:40] ---| ---> mib_6ndtyip8 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-35a161ffc4287ba6] has joined #code4lib [08:37:43] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6702b34341ae693c] has joined #code4lib [08:37:51] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6a5f2a5914373162] has joined #code4lib [08:38:00] JodiS | ecorrado: Jean says they know about it [08:38:03] jbrinley | blocked_ports-- [08:38:10] JodiS | blocked_ports-- [08:38:13] timmcgeary | hi room [08:38:16] JodiS | hi tim! [08:38:20] timmcgeary | hi Jodi [08:38:21] jbrinley | hi, timmcgeary [08:38:25] ---| User: *** mib_6ndtyip8 is now known as mouwd [08:38:28] ecorrado | JodiS: timmcgeary can give you the itouch details [08:38:30] timmcgeary | hi jbrinley [08:38:41] timmcgeary | how did you know that? [08:38:44] JodiS | timmcgeary: did you get an itouch onto the wireless? [08:38:49] timmcgeary | yes [08:38:57] timmcgeary | you have to call the ibahn support [08:39:05] timmcgeary | it's a pain, but they do it pretty quickly [08:39:16] timmcgeary | for the conference room, it is 877-787-6266 [08:39:26] JodiS | timmcgeary++ [08:39:31] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-69.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [08:39:45] timmcgeary | for the hotel room, call the number that is listed on the desk [08:40:14] JodiS | cool, can't get service in the ballroom, but will make that call later [08:40:29] JodiS | do we have a "wireless tips" page for the conference yet? [08:40:31] ---| <<-- kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [08:40:40] timmcgeary | there is a courtesy phone just outside the ballroom by the registration desk [08:40:45] timmcgeary | just ask the operator to connect you [08:40:50] timmcgeary | that's what I did [08:40:51] jbrinley | JodiS: you can probably just add it to the conference buzz page [08:41:02] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [08:41:08] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-90805beb4d98bc26] has joined #code4lib [08:41:09] timmcgeary | what's that URL, I can add the iPod/iTouch thing [08:41:10] jbrinley | JodiS: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Conference_Buzz [08:41:24] ---| ---> abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:41:24] JodiS | timmcgeary++ [08:41:26] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [08:41:28] JodiS | jbrinley++ [08:41:50] ---| ---> MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-69.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:41:53] dchud | hey i can only connect to irc over mibbit. do i need to tell my regular chat client to use an alt port or something? [08:42:07] anarchivist | dchud: try port 8000 [08:42:09] kat3 | dchud: i'm having the same problem [08:42:17] anarchivist | i'm using card.freenode.net [08:42:29] dchud | ok trying [08:42:29] ---| <--- dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-90805beb4d98bc26] has left #code4lib () [08:42:42] ---| <<-- kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-91ae737b8e094ff2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [08:42:49] MrDys | mmmmmmibbit [08:43:18] jbrinley | anyone know how to tell x-chat to use port 8000? [08:43:44] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-010b76aee8ee72fe] has joined #code4lib [08:43:46] jbrinley | /server card.freenode.net:8000 gives me "Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?" [08:43:53] timmcgeary | is the buzz page using the same login as the code4lib website? [08:43:57] MrDys | jbrinley: space 8000 [08:44:00] ---| ---> mib_6d4dxbev [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-67b6eb6203ee6349] has joined #code4lib [08:44:04] anarchivist | timmcgeary: nope [08:44:04] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:44:05] MrDys | jbrinley: /server card.freenode.net 8000 [08:44:12] jbrinley | ah, space [08:44:18] JodiS | @later tell ksclarke I've got the audio recorder if you want to use it today [08:44:19] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. [08:44:22] timmcgeary | so I create a new account, ok [08:44:31] wickr | timmcgeary: yeah, separate account [08:49:56] JodiS | timmcgeary: account integration would be nice, but is beyond our aims :( [08:49:56] timmcgeary | understand that [08:49:56] ---| ---> calvinm_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c521d283e1106bd] has joined #code4lib [08:49:56] JodiS | royt calls us to order, precisely on time [08:49:56] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d2e6e8678390f0e] has joined #code4lib [08:49:56] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [08:49:56] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-42cdfc1f32f1c1ed] has joined #code4lib [08:49:56] kat3 | fine, i'll use mibbit [08:49:56] dchud | anarchivist: which server did you say again? [08:49:56] dchud | host i mean. er same thing [08:49:56] anarchivist | dchud: i'm card.freenode.net [08:49:56] anarchivist | dchud: there's something wonky with some of the freenode servers; they don't all accept the alt port [08:49:56] akorphan | think about all the ad revenue mibbit is getting. [08:49:56] timmcgeary | maybe on time, but I don't think we are ordered. :) [08:49:56] jbrinley | card.freenode.net didn't work for me [08:49:56] JodiS | @last from anarchivist [08:49:56] zoia | JodiS: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} ] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns all the (1 more message) [08:49:56] MrDys | lieb [08:49:56] dchud | card. ok cool [08:49:56] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data || Chudnov, Dan: Things Nobody Wants to Say, Part One [08:49:56] MrDys | MC Tennant [08:49:56] ---| Channel: JodiS changed the topic of #code4lib to: #c4l09 Today's schedule: http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [08:49:56] abarrera | knew him when he had royt diapers [08:49:56] anarchivist | from royt diapers roythong [08:49:56] anarchivist | s/diapers /diapers to [08:49:56] dchud | bah, not working. oh well. [08:49:59] ---| ---> jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-91c870ec5c70d2c2] has joined #code4lib [08:50:19] timmcgeary | iPhone/iTouch info add to Conference Buzz wiki [08:51:24] anarchivist | teh internets should be free [08:51:28] jrochkind100 | other people are getting into irc from the conference net? [08:51:30] jrochkind100 | Not for me. [08:51:35] abarrera | i'm in [08:51:35] jrochkind100 | "400: Bad Request ( The data is invalid. )" Weird. [08:51:37] anarchivist | jrochkind100: i am [08:51:39] MrDys | workin for me [08:51:44] fak3r | ya, 8000 not open...time to whip out nmap [08:51:49] jrochkind100 | Weird. [08:51:49] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:51:50] fak3r | iphone users? bah [08:52:02] kat3 | theyre the coolest [08:52:13] fak3r | first-timers ftw! [08:52:20] MrDys | fak3r: your distain, so rich and thick you could drizzle it on pancakes [08:52:23] JodiS | "To connect with the ibahn_conf wireless on iPhone or iTouch, you need to call the iBahn Conference Technical Support at 877-787-6266. It is best to have the main hotel phone # to reference: 401-919-5000. " [08:52:34] JodiS | thanks timmcgeary++ [08:52:39] timmcgeary | yw [08:52:48] fak3r | I'm #1! [08:52:50] wickr | oh that's what the #1 is [08:53:00] * lbjay rejects the clique-ish lable [08:53:05] abarrera | mine says --1 [08:53:19] ---| ---> mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8dda074941686f16] has joined #code4lib [08:53:28] ---| ---> smkiewel [i=46a41963@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f4272f549e1be08] has joined #code4lib [08:53:28] timmcgeary | is that half the room? [08:53:33] rjw | royt rock god! [08:53:37] jchphilly | More than. [08:54:05] ---| ---> abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:54:17] lbjay | mjg_: you're sitting pretty far forward today. isn't there a seat on the other side of that table? [08:54:40] mjg_ | lbjay++ [08:54:44] fak3r | mjg_ got one up here, 2nd table from the left, front row [08:54:45] anarchivist | my tummy does not like the breakfast this mrning [08:54:47] jrochkind100 | bah, I can connect to freenode, but then it tells me "400: Bad Request ( The data is invalid. )" and disconnects me. [08:54:53] ---| ---> dbs_ [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [08:54:57] fak3r | anarchivist++ [08:54:57] mjg_ | thank goodness for mibbit. [08:54:58] ---| ---> eom [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a42d8bb437db0aba] has joined #code4lib [08:55:09] fak3r | mjg_++ [08:55:13] kat3 | mjg_:yeees [08:55:14] jrochkind100 | i want photos of anarchivist drinking again [08:55:15] timmcgeary | clique-ish -- [08:55:27] anarchivist | jrochkind100: be prepared for pictures of my mansweat [08:55:30] MrDys | @sing new kids on the block : hangin tough [08:55:32] fak3r | "...another short little thing" hmmm... [08:55:33] zoia | MrDys: No lyrics for hangin tough by new kids on the block. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [08:55:35] * BillDueber just added basic info on ssh port forwarding to http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Conference_Buzz [08:55:41] MrDys | zoia, stop disappointing me [08:55:42] zoia | MrDys: I don't mean to be a dick, but rtfm [08:55:47] ---| <<-- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [08:55:48] mjg_ | royt is less equal than all of us. [08:55:54] * akorphan is taking much to long to calculate a regression curve on the relationship between Mark Twain's charity and his impatience. [08:56:10] lbjay | BillDueber++ [08:56:13] mjg_ | royt is less equal than his mustache. [08:56:18] abarrera | royt++ [08:56:19] fak3r | mjg_: damn! [08:56:29] abarrera | he's the one with bacon on his neck [08:56:35] jbrinley | @karma mjg_ [08:56:35] zoia | jbrinley: Karma for "mjg_" has been increased 44 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 40. [08:56:37] ecorrado | mjg_:-- [08:56:38] BillDueber | @karma mjgiarlo [08:56:39] zoia | BillDueber: Karma for "mjgiarlo" has been increased 1159 times and decreased 107 times for a total karma of 1052. [08:56:41] jrochkind100 | way to fight cliquishness with in jokes. [08:56:49] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- [08:56:52] Baroquem | I like this font. [08:56:55] MrDys | anarchivist will explain it all in a minute [08:56:56] ecorrado | jrochkind100++ [08:56:58] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:57:00] ---| ---> paulalbert [n=paulalbe@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:57:06] fak3r | mjg_ rolls a 14 and strikes down a grue! [08:57:13] fak3r | font++ [08:57:15] eom | It seems to be the font selected by the logo designer! I like it too. [08:57:28] rsinger | http://foam.lib.muohio.edu/roy_thong.jpeg [08:57:33] fak3r | eom: new logo is great imo [08:57:36] jbrinley | font: Centabel Book [08:57:48] ---| ---> mib_l8fdwx5n [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-47f31ff85233caf0] has joined #code4lib [08:57:50] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@216.236.252.231] has joined #code4lib [08:57:50] zoia | ALL RISE [08:57:51] mjg_ | I'm lobbying to get a shot of roy's thong in every single presentation. [08:57:51] MrDys | centabel...sounds like a champagne [08:57:58] BillDueber | code4lib needs a benevolent dictator [08:58:01] timmcgeary | rsinger++ [08:58:02] lbjay | we fall back on oligarchy [08:58:04] ---| User: *** mib_l8fdwx5n is now known as escowles [08:58:05] fak3r | mis-spelling noted [08:58:06] ecorrado | voting++ [08:58:07] jbrinley | mjg_++ [08:58:18] dchud | rsinger, diebold champion [08:58:20] anarchivist | "i don't vote, i'm an anarchist" [08:58:22] ---| User: *** dbs_ is now known as dbs [08:58:31] MrDys | @hosts 2010 [08:58:32] edsu | @hosts2010 [08:58:32] zoia | MrDys: maybe the batcat ate your baby [08:58:34] zoia | edsu: Asheville, NC [185]; Austin, TX [165]; Madison, WI [145]; Columbus, OH [104]; Bloomington, IN [76] [08:58:36] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:41] lbjay | round_tables-- [08:58:43] fak3r | font download: http://www.urbanfonts.com/fonts/Centabel_Book.htm [08:58:47] mjg_ | ksclarke++ JodiS++ [08:58:54] fak3r | lbjay++ [08:58:55] anarchivist | anarchy in the code4libk [08:58:56] timmcgeary | Did Columbus lose votes from last year? [08:59:03] BigD | is this thing on? [08:59:03] BigD | ;) [08:59:04] mjg_ | royt++ # haha! [08:59:06] jbrinley | @hosts2009 [08:59:06] abarrera | @hosts2009 [08:59:07] zoia | jbrinley: Brown University/Providence, Rhode Island [269]; Columbus, OH [225]; Southeast Florida [176]; Bahía Blanca, Argentina [105] [08:59:08] dchud | this would be the annual moment when the code4lib.org site stops working [08:59:08] zoia | abarrera: Brown University/Providence, Rhode Island [269]; Columbus, OH [225]; Southeast Florida [176]; Bahía Blanca, Argentina [105] [08:59:15] anarchivist | @hosts2011 [08:59:16] zoia | anarchivist: Big Sandy, Wyoming [80]; Blueballs, Pennsylvania [79]; Cold Water, Mississippi [56]; Climax, North Carolina [16]; Hooker, Arkansas [13] [08:59:16] MrDys | @hosts2012 [08:59:18] zoia | MrDys: you might want to try the ghost whisperer - http://www.cyberglass.biz/customflash/ghostwhisperer/ [08:59:22] wickr | dchud: hush [08:59:29] rsinger | @dict sanctimony [08:59:29] fak3r | how much bandwidth can this network handle? [08:59:31] zoia | rsinger: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: sanctimony n : the quality of being hypocritically devout [syn: {sanctimoniousness}]; gcide: Sanctimony \Sanc"ti*mo*ny\, n. [L. sanctimonia, fr. sanctus holy: cf. OF. sanctimonie. See {Saint}.] Holiness; devoutness; scrupulous austerity; sanctity; especially, outward or artificial saintliness; assumed or pretended holiness; hypocritical devoutness. [1913 Webster] Her (3 more messages) [08:59:32] * lbjay regrets not grabbing a 2nd croissant [08:59:41] akorphan | sanctimony-- [08:59:43] dchud | wickr: i had to say it, that way nothing will happen :) [08:59:50] JodiS | jbrinley++ #re: logo matchmaking [08:59:58] fak3r | blessed, and we had a prayer? [09:00:00] jbrinley | royt++ [09:00:00] abarrera | royt++ [09:00:00] kat3 | royt++ [09:00:01] edsu | hahaha [09:00:02] ---| ---> kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:00:04] mjg_ | pre-empt'd! [09:00:05] timmcgeary | royt++ [09:00:06] edsu | royt++ [09:00:11] dchud | attack them before they attack you! [09:00:15] ecorrado | royt++ [09:00:24] kat3 | we could get a group discount on thongs [09:00:32] anarchivist | bulk thong [09:00:36] fak3r | not funny-- [09:00:40] kgs | royt++ # the thong rules! [09:00:41] mjg_ | one thong enters, 250 people leave. [09:00:43] jbrinley | 2010 conference prizes [09:00:48] JodiS | royt++ [09:00:49] kat3 | mjg_: quickly [09:00:56] abarrera | the voting for columbus just took another hit [09:01:00] lbjay | yay, anarchivist++ [09:01:01] eom | after all, we all already have a ton of o'reilly books [09:01:04] rsinger | and, thus, my 20 minutes of fame are over [09:01:05] JodiS | @quote add one thong enters, 250 people leave. [09:01:06] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Quote #1717 added. [09:01:09] BigD | who's the club kid? [09:01:12] fak3r | dippy_duck url noted [09:01:15] rsinger | thanks everybody, i'm goin' back to TN [09:01:16] MrDys | BigD++ [09:01:27] JodiS | anarchivist++ [09:01:41] ecorrado | anagy++ [09:01:48] dchud | he's going to tell us we all need to go dancing isn't he [09:01:58] abarrera | or speed dating [09:01:59] fak3r | glassed look better on BigD - discuss. [09:02:07] jbrinley | @whoami [09:02:07] zoia | jbrinley: I don't recognize you. [09:02:07] lbjay | rule 1, look like that [09:02:16] BigD | blurry pic [09:02:25] rsinger | "Scared puppy" [09:02:26] lbjay | fierce! [09:02:27] rsinger | whatevs [09:02:28] jbrinley | @whoami [09:02:29] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley [09:02:32] edsu | @ana fix shit at work [09:02:33] fak3r | he's squinting, that's why he got rid of those glasses [09:02:34] zoia | edsu: Fox rakish twit [09:02:34] dchud | aw such a cute little puppy he was [09:02:37] * BillDueber gets that a lot. [09:02:37] ---| ---> jtgorman [n=chatzill@libstfsys11.library.uiuc.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:02:38] zoia | Mortals! Tremble in fear, fer ye doom approaches! th' skies gunna burn, th' seven seas boil! He arr....oh, sorry thought it was someone else. 'tis just jtgorman. [09:02:41] BigD | that's not what he said to me [09:02:53] ---| <<-- mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8dda074941686f16] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:03:04] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [09:03:05] ---| ---> g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dde3db2b9445acf2] has joined #code4lib [09:03:10] rsinger | @ana a pioneer of the industry [09:03:11] zoia | rsinger: Fine honesty repudiator [09:03:16] mbklein | We're an egalitario-clique [09:03:17] BillDueber | zoia++ [09:03:20] ejk | @karma mibbit [09:03:21] ---| ---> rosy1280 [n=rosy1280@155.47.17.158] has joined #code4lib [09:03:21] zoia | ejk: Karma for "mibbit" has been increased 4 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 3. [09:03:21] akorphan | thrift_mtwain(t) = -20.55 ln(t) + 82.29 [09:03:22] fak3r | irc++ [09:03:28] mbklein | @ana we will miss you roy [09:03:30] zoia | mbklein: I, wisely lousy worm [09:03:31] ecorrado | big_words-- [09:03:33] BigD | http://twinkle.tapulous.com/index.php?hash=5e2b0b45608230043cef4fed02b25a798debeaee [09:03:34] * jtgorman needs to read the last two code4lib journals [09:03:34] ---| ---> mib_3lfzkcf2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9baca342d5bb73d] has joined #code4lib [09:03:37] lbjay | @ana socail capital [09:03:38] zoia | lbjay: Social capital [09:03:43] lbjay | hah [09:03:44] edsu | i thought this was the masons meeting... [09:03:45] lbjay | lbjay-- [09:03:46] fak3r | Sean ftw [09:03:48] ---| <--- mib_3lfzkcf2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9baca342d5bb73d] has left #code4lib () [09:03:49] BigD | bacon! [09:03:52] timmcgeary | donuts++ [09:03:53] JodiS | edsu++ [09:03:53] kat3 | bacon maple log++ [09:03:53] wickr | what a motley crue [09:03:53] zoia | wickr: turn it up! [09:03:56] dchud | something "d" "o" "o" donuts [09:03:59] mpark | BigD++ [09:04:00] lbjay | BigD! [09:04:02] abarrera | bacon++ [09:04:03] ecorrado | bacon++ [09:04:03] timmcgeary | bacon++ [09:04:03] jbrinley | bacon++ [09:04:07] ejk | bacon++ [09:04:08] BillDueber | @karma bacon [09:04:08] mbklein | bacon++ [09:04:09] zoia | BillDueber: Karma for "bacon" has been increased 27 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 25. [09:04:10] ---| ---> mib_3lfzkcf2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9baca342d5bb73d] has joined #code4lib [09:04:14] ---| ---> reeset [n=chatzill@128-193-147-211.oregonstate.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:04:14] abrin | bacon-- [09:04:15] fak3r | how do you use teh IRC chan? [09:04:17] JodiS | @quote add bacon is very, very central to our community [09:04:18] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Quote #1718 added. [09:04:20] jrochkind100 | no you can't. [09:04:24] ---| <--- mib_3lfzkcf2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9baca342d5bb73d] has left #code4lib () [09:04:30] fak3r | mibbit props [09:04:36] dchud | you all can have my bacon [09:04:37] * jbrinley was fine connecting until this morning [09:04:39] timmcgeary | i want to use IRC through Pidgin, but I haven't gotten it to work [09:04:39] ecorrado | #beer++ [09:04:45] timmcgeary | beer++ [09:04:49] kat3 | kittens++ [09:04:49] BillDueber | does it give away free booze??? [09:04:50] fak3r | forget kittens, I want catz [09:04:53] mouwd | kittens++ [09:04:53] MrDys | meta_slides++ [09:04:58] ecorrado | meow [09:05:04] mbklein | Am I the only one who had to connect to IRC via ssh tunnel? I get a weird HTML-looking response when I try to connect on 6667 or 8000 [09:05:08] kgs | that was even "my" kitten! [09:05:11] * jbrinley wants a slide with a picture from earlier in this presentation [09:05:11] g8tor | anybody @ the code4lib conf want to talk about using Zope3/Grok or Plone? [09:05:12] fak3r | party pic [09:05:21] abarrera | kgs: demand royalties [09:05:22] ---| ---> khatar [n=marc@phear.org] has joined #code4lib [09:05:23] fak3r | librarian's gone wild [09:05:26] jbrinley | mbklein: using mibbit now, didn't have a problem with ports yesterday [09:05:26] mbklein | What Mark's not saying is that he killed that kitten with his bare hands [09:05:27] JodiS | g8tor: yes, let's talk about zope and plone! [09:05:28] khatar | hello world [09:05:32] BillDueber | mbklein: I'm also under ssh tunnel. Hotel is blocking high ports (e.g., talk.google.com as well) [09:05:33] ---| <<-- iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-89.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [09:05:38] jrochkind100 | mbklein No, me too. [09:05:38] dchud | chesthairml-2.0 is going to be *awesome* [09:05:42] JodiS | g8tor: either a breakout session, if there's interest, or over lunch or something [09:05:52] mbklein | We should set up one tunnel and let everyone use it. :) [09:05:53] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6702b34341ae693c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:05:57] JodiS | mbklein++ [09:05:58] ---| ---> beckophonic [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d2478f952a7c1839] has joined #code4lib [09:06:03] akorphan | jrochkind: yes, but what does it do? [09:06:05] akorphan | oh wait, that's RDF. [09:06:14] rosy1280 | got in to gchat and irc no problem...maybe try again? [09:06:14] kat3 | hey, my picture! [09:06:16] fak3r | mbklein: I can tunnel to my server over ssh [09:06:24] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [09:06:25] ecorrado | kat3++ [09:06:27] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-878ad53ebba24011] has joined #code4lib [09:06:34] g8tor | JodiS: I replyed to you on the code4lib site but it just hasn't posted yet [09:06:34] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0b5b2281ece265b3] has joined #code4lib [09:06:35] ---| ---> asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5ff82221c985e5a9] has joined #code4lib [09:06:36] jrochkind100 | I have tried many times, sadly. [09:06:42] fak3r | don't sit here, don't sit here... [09:06:49] dchud | i heard a disturbing sound! [09:06:55] BillDueber | "When I woke up this morning, I heard a distubring sound!" [09:06:57] BillDueber | dchud++ [09:07:03] ejk | I can attest to the booze angle, had fun last night at the brewery [09:07:03] g8tor | JodiS:where are you sitting? [09:07:04] dchud | :) [09:07:05] fak3r | dchud++ [09:07:10] akorphan | @karma kittens [09:07:10] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "kittens" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. [09:07:13] ---| ---> mib_3lfzkcf2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9baca342d5bb73d] has joined #code4lib [09:07:14] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has quit () [09:07:15] timmcgeary | good brewery? [09:07:16] fak3r | ejk: good beer, slow food [09:07:20] abarrera | kittens-- [09:07:28] fak3r | timmcgeary: decent, go with the porter [09:07:34] timmcgeary | slow food -- [09:07:35] rsinger | spellcheck-- [09:07:37] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9dcbac580220874f] has joined #code4lib [09:07:39] ecorrado | abarrera: kittens are yummy [09:07:41] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:07:41] JodiS | g8tor: right hand side of room, from back enterance [09:07:41] rsinger | first slide, really? [09:07:43] ejk | company > beer >>> food [09:07:44] ecorrado | kitten_bacon++ [09:07:48] dchud | bookless? BOOKLESS? [09:07:51] JodiS | a comedy in 3 acts? [09:07:54] dchud | this should be interesting [09:07:55] kgs | union station was nice -- low-key and fabu macncheese [09:07:56] ---| ---> dhanu [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a092caf341ce6467] has joined #code4lib [09:07:56] JodiS | dchud: paper bookless? [09:07:58] fak3r | first slide? a big dark to be honest. [09:08:00] BillDueber | ecorrado: Ummmmm. Smoked kitten. Yummmy. [09:08:01] ---| <--- mib_3lfzkcf2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9baca342d5bb73d] has left #code4lib () [09:08:01] ---| ---> cfitz [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-82.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:08:04] ---| <--- beckophonic [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d2478f952a7c1839] has left #code4lib () [09:08:06] fak3r | I'd like to hit Union station [09:08:06] * JodiS keeps hearing about macncheese [09:08:13] * JodiS reports BillDueber to buffy [09:08:22] ---| ---> ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6393c6b4f851a4ed] has joined #code4lib [09:08:24] akorphan | macncheese++ [09:08:26] dchud | hey maybe we can take the house lights down 20% [09:08:26] ---| ---> mib_n1k5i8s3 [i=46a41956@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e0e75fa032dfc9d0] has joined #code4lib [09:08:27] ---| ---> jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-58070c6f080cc2f8] has joined #code4lib [09:08:36] rsinger | that'd be helpful [09:08:36] rjw | union station ribs were challenging [09:08:38] fak3r | I keep seeing that as 'mancheese' and it's bothering me [09:08:41] timmcgeary | lights down, yes [09:08:47] g8tor | JodiS: I am @ the second table from the front on the left with the black hat [09:08:49] rsinger | my slides are going to be invisible at this light level [09:08:49] ---| ---> ccurry [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-842eec1b38201f83] has joined #code4lib [09:08:50] ---| User: *** ksclarke is now known as Guest66662 [09:08:50] akorphan | Red Stripe has good mac n cheese [09:08:53] mib_6d4dxbev | agree... house lights down 20% is good [09:08:54] rsinger | LIKE MAGIC [09:08:54] dchud | nice! [09:08:55] rsinger | oh [09:08:56] abarrera | mjgiarlo: you still have your johnny rockets bacon [09:08:57] rosy1280 | boo [09:08:58] dchud | no back the other way! [09:08:59] khatar | is mike rylander here ? [09:08:59] fak3r | down pls [09:09:00] dchud | yes! [09:09:01] rosy1280 | yay [09:09:03] anarchivist | @hussein mancheese [09:09:03] fak3r | ahhh [09:09:04] zoia | anarchivist: Humane cheesiness [09:09:09] ---| User: *** Guest66662 is now known as ksclarke_web [09:09:11] escowles | house_lights-- [09:09:11] ---| ---> mib_vrb8js [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e6133107bd475b4] has joined #code4lib [09:09:11] mib_6d4dxbev | nice [09:09:15] kgs | miker_ is indeed here! I seen him with my own eyes [09:09:17] jbrinley | that's pretty good there [09:09:18] * BillDueber needs more screen real estate badly. [09:09:20] dchud | hey maybe we could get a spinach feta omelet up here in the front [09:09:31] lbjay | khatar: that would be miker_ [09:09:31] akorphan | Can we hack zoia to adjust the light level based on its karma? [09:09:32] BigD | man, even less light in here? i can't take ma pitures [09:09:39] ---| User: *** mib_vrb8js is now known as cbeer [09:09:40] dchud | sorry BigD [09:09:43] fak3r | bah, just ship it [09:09:43] ---| ---> mib_56ty03zh [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-995584a93a34f9eb] has joined #code4lib [09:09:49] rsinger | hey, erikhatcher, can you leave stefano a couple minutes to talk? [09:09:52] kgs | oh oh... I fear for the last preso of the day if the room stays this dark ;) [09:09:54] kat3 | BigD: we'll be flashing like paparazzi [09:10:00] ---| ---> endupok [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d030b254e28b1d68] has joined #code4lib [09:10:00] ---| ---> cordmata [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1ca96b648849df02] has joined #code4lib [09:10:06] ---| ---> ethomsen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c922160f0bdb49b] has joined #code4lib [09:10:08] rjw | any body got a follow-spot we can use [09:10:10] dchud | look out, BigD has a speedlight! [09:10:17] ---| <--- ccurry [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-842eec1b38201f83] has left #code4lib () [09:10:17] timmcgeary | darkness -- [09:10:19] lbjay | keynoters_in_ripped_jeans+- [09:10:25] khatar | thx guies [09:10:27] akorphan | Apparently it's only *approximately* Stefano. [09:10:27] * fak3r wishes he would have brought his laser pointer [09:10:30] rosy1280 | no i can see stefano [09:10:30] JodiS | nice way to pull in the intro! :) [09:10:32] dchud | ok the lights are good leave 'em where they are! [09:10:39] khatar | miker_, i have to talk to you [09:10:44] ---| ---> ccurry [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-32742e8dd198aa83] has joined #code4lib [09:10:55] ---| ---> Cliffw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1cd9a846b1e338d7] has joined #code4lib [09:10:56] * jtgorman wonders if he should even be in channel today... [09:11:09] fak3r | how now brown cow? [09:11:18] fak3r | jtgorman: yes, we need you here [09:11:19] kgs | left projector needs tweaking for contrast [09:11:22] dchud | edsu, mjgialo: NOOOOOOOOOO! [09:11:22] khatar | (and i'm in the room ) [09:11:27] dchud | that was mjgiarlo [09:11:28] fak3r | kgs++ [09:11:29] MrDys | lbjay: what kind of pro shop do you think we're running here [09:11:33] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:11:35] kgs | could be a dying bulb [09:11:36] lbjay | up to 89 nicks [09:11:37] BigD | i hate using my flash [09:11:45] anarchivist | MrDys++ [09:11:52] abarrera | BigD: please don't flash anyone [09:11:58] anarchivist | BigD: don't flash me [09:12:01] ecorrado | it is mardi gras [09:12:02] anarchivist | abarrera++ [09:12:04] ---| <<-- jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-58070c6f080cc2f8] has quit (Client Quit) [09:12:09] dchud | abarrera++ [09:12:10] ---| ---> jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cc9f7d5886cb3730] has joined #code4lib [09:12:14] akorphan | beads++ [09:12:15] rsinger | ecorrado++ [09:12:22] ---| ---> jstirnaman [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-070882ded6327dd2] has joined #code4lib [09:12:24] kgs | Lent... catch the fever [09:12:38] fak3r | kgs++ [09:12:39] BigD | it's lent? [09:12:40] timmcgeary | fastnacht day [09:12:44] kat3 | i'm out of beads [09:12:45] timmcgeary | tomorrow is lent [09:12:47] kat3 | sorry [09:12:47] rsinger | BigD: tommorrow [09:12:49] BigD | let me know when you get it back! har har [09:12:51] BillDueber | BigD: Ash wednesday is tomorrow. [09:12:53] kat3 | tomorrow is Ash Wednesday [09:12:56] * ecorrado gives up not drinking beer for lent [09:12:56] ---| <<-- mib_n1k5i8s3 [i=46a41956@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e0e75fa032dfc9d0] has quit (Client Quit) [09:12:56] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-878ad53ebba24011] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:12:57] timmcgeary | today is fastnacht day [09:12:58] JodiS | wow, bringing information theory and Info sci together. :) [09:13:02] timmcgeary | aka donut day [09:13:03] anarchivist | paczki++ [09:13:10] * BillDueber gives up Christianity for Lent. [09:13:15] JodiS | ecorrado: not drinking beer? you got a problem with that? [09:13:20] dchud | JodiS: it's tuesday :) [09:13:21] fak3r | is this still the first act? [09:13:26] kgs | hmmm... if the guy in front of me would take off his head I could tilt the camera toward the other slides [09:13:31] ---| ---> kevinreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-801d302900f67991] has joined #code4lib [09:13:32] JodiS | yes: history [09:13:43] ecorrado | JodiS: I'm giving up not drinking ,which means i need to drink more [09:13:46] BigD | off with his head! [09:13:49] dchud | kgs: i think gsf has a python library for that [09:13:56] ---| <<-- mib_56ty03zh [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-995584a93a34f9eb] has quit (Client Quit) [09:13:56] ---| <<-- g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dde3db2b9445acf2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:14:07] anarchivist | import antigravity [09:14:08] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-217d209029c67aca] has joined #code4lib [09:14:10] JodiS | cave portability [09:14:15] edsu | cave.py [09:14:21] fak3r | JodiS: might be the answer [09:14:22] JodiS | error: library not found [09:14:31] fak3r | mv cave /tmp [09:14:32] akorphan | Whoa, mind reaidng. [09:14:33] ---| <<-- jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cc9f7d5886cb3730] has quit (Client Quit) [09:14:34] ecorrado | cavexml [09:14:36] rsinger | spelunkr [09:14:37] kgs | srsly it would be good to get AV to check that bulb over the break because those are the slides that will be synced to the speaker [09:14:38] mpark | cave writings parser [09:14:42] * JodiS still needs to look at Smith's clay tablets [09:14:49] ---| ---> g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cce396a9a6b1b09f] has joined #code4lib [09:14:52] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-98a958f9f252e80f] has joined #code4lib [09:14:52] fak3r | cave drawing ocr? [09:14:54] rosy1280 | parchment! [09:14:54] kat3 | glue is awesome [09:14:55] jtgorman | reminds me of one of my more pointless possible research project.... [09:14:56] JodiS | kgs: will you follow up on that. sounds impt! [09:14:57] akorphan | Not as heavy as caves! [09:15:09] jtgorman | using the CAVE to create a 3-d catalog interface [09:15:12] kgs | it's readable but not so good [09:15:14] ejk | spoiler: printing press [09:15:14] edsu | less persistent [09:15:23] paulalbert | fiber: better for wiping than clay tablets [09:15:27] BigD | ejk dammit! [09:15:31] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0207699883fa79b4] has joined #code4lib [09:15:32] timmcgeary | ejk-- [09:15:34] JodiS | I really like the attention to affordances [09:15:36] ejk | damn [09:15:37] anarchivist | u can't multitouch this [09:15:48] fak3r | ejk++ [09:15:48] fak3r | only cost about a dollar? [09:15:54] kgs | JodiS want to -- is Jean watching a bb or something? [09:15:56] fak3r | anarchivist++ [09:16:03] BigD | i'd buy that for a dollar [09:16:19] JodiS | no, but I see her [09:16:29] mib_6d4dxbev | spoiler alert: internets!!! [09:16:32] kgs | what's her 20? [09:16:38] * jtgorman can't find a good url about the Beckman cave and has better things to do [09:16:43] JodiS | kgs: slides on which side? or which bulb? [09:16:52] timmcgeary | damn spoilers [09:16:55] fak3r | mib_6d4dxbev: it's pronounced 'teh internets' [09:16:59] ---| <--- ccurry [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-32742e8dd198aa83] has left #code4lib () [09:17:12] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-584d473bd67b8832] has joined #code4lib [09:17:15] fak3r | hmm...chicken curry [09:17:16] ---| ---> jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d1cf43aff1602c1e] has joined #code4lib [09:17:17] ---| ---> fereira [i=HydraIRC@wsip-70-164-25-35.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:17:20] ---| ---> scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ee1d28a747780337] has joined #code4lib [09:17:21] ejk | @karma ejk [09:17:22] kgs | JodiS LJ projector -- definitely fainter than rh [09:17:22] zoia | ejk: Karma for "ejk" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0. [09:17:22] BigD | mib_6d4dxbev: try the /nick command? [09:17:23] JodiS | kgs: door on the rhs from the back enterence [09:17:29] ---| ---> caroldotou_c [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f138e162acace6b8] has joined #code4lib [09:17:33] timmcgeary | skipping through millenia [09:17:43] JodiS | kgs: LJ? [09:17:44] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Layton, Warren: Why netbooks are killing Microsoft [09:17:45] fak3r | I can see my website from here [09:17:46] akorphan | broadcast-- [09:18:01] kgs | s/LJ/LH [09:18:10] dchud | i never bought that claim [09:18:21] dchud | power is the unmentioned cost here [09:18:23] ---| ---> mib_nch3tkl0 [i=46a41956@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77f95c28d8bbee40] has joined #code4lib [09:18:28] rsinger | dchud: agreed [09:18:33] BigD | and it's evil sister, cooling [09:18:35] ecorrado | dchud: yep... digital preservation is expensive [09:18:35] rsinger | dchud: maintenance, too [09:18:38] BigD | its [09:18:38] JodiS | kgs: ok, will transmit [09:18:50] kgs | JodiS++ [09:18:52] chickmarkley | http://www.alphabetvsgoddess.com/ [09:18:53] BigD | oh yeah, and the support staff - that'd be US [09:18:56] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-72024b7c49c498a4] has joined #code4lib [09:19:01] ---| ---> mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d09c11c560c662e5] has joined #code4lib [09:19:01] akorphan | films_stored_in_salt_mines++ [09:19:14] mib_6d4dxbev | back to the future? [09:19:20] anarchivist | archives want to be dark! [09:19:29] khatar | netbook don't kill ms at all ... it just make linux grow [09:19:40] fak3r | khatar++ [09:19:54] fak3r | twitter? ya, follow me if you'd like [09:20:00] dchud | i bet "power" appears on this slide [09:20:03] fak3r | eating [09:20:12] * anarchivist starts tweeting uncontrollably [09:20:14] BigD | dchud: how much? [09:20:26] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:20:28] jtgorman | khatar: and Windows is already gaining a pretty impressive share of the netbooks, considering that there seemed to have been resistance on Microsoft part [09:20:29] BigD | we could start a whole slide prediction economy [09:20:33] jbrinley | designers++ [09:20:53] dchud | BigD: i'm already on it. but you could have bet that. [09:20:54] abarrera | he's going to use every power related word, but power [09:20:58] fak3r | I thought that was a new rule [09:21:01] dchud | does that count? [09:21:06] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [09:21:14] anarchivist | BigD: i'm taking wagers on how many of my slides use your photos as background images for my afternoon talk [09:21:31] BigD | anarchivist: cool! use all you want! [09:21:37] kat3 | it's very true, interfaces from 3-5 years ago are laughable already [09:21:37] akorphan | Next year, I'm distributing bingo cards. [09:21:37] fak3r | 20 yrs ago? how old does he think I am? [09:21:44] ---| ---> erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-58a681df05186337] has joined #code4lib [09:21:44] khatar | jtgorman, yep. I think that ms will keep his part of the market anywher [09:21:47] fak3r | I'm laughing right now [09:21:50] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d43f201f683023d] has joined #code4lib [09:21:51] khatar | even in game console [09:21:53] rsinger | my iphone experience last night, looking up steve perry's solo work, wasn't exactly revolutionary [09:22:06] timmcgeary | keynote bingo [09:22:07] fak3r | oh, shari? [09:22:10] * ejk is digging the background pitter-patter of keyboards clicking [09:22:14] MrDys | rsinger: some would even call it "sad" [09:22:18] anarchivist | rsinger: your problem is you need a business smartphone like a blackberry [09:22:22] rsinger | fak3r: "foolish heart" [09:22:22] BigD | HOLD ON... HOLD ON!!! [09:22:28] khatar | but i think diversity and choice is good: MS concurrence is still a good motor for OSS productivity [09:22:32] fak3r | rsinger: sweet [09:22:42] rsinger | edsu: speaking of -- you owe a beer [09:22:48] BigD | dammit, get steve perry out of my head [09:22:53] fak3r | khatar: I agree, MS isn't going away, but Mac/Lin will keep moving up [09:22:54] * BigD hums some REO [09:23:07] edsu | i want the cave [09:23:08] gsf | only if the book is really pretty [09:23:13] BillDueber | BigD just went from bad to worse. [09:23:15] ---| ---> epoz [i=46a41928@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e32a5ef1fa4951e7] has joined #code4lib [09:23:15] fak3r | BigD: you can tune a piano... [09:23:26] BigD | aw yeah [09:23:28] dchud | ...oh sherry... [09:23:28] MrDys | fak3r: worst album title ever [09:23:31] jbrinley | fak3r: not all pianos [09:23:31] fak3r | Steve Perry solo work < REO [09:23:42] anarchivist | BigD is the john goodman of the library tech world [09:23:50] escowles | 100 yrs? it looks awful today [09:23:53] fak3r | anarchivist++ [09:23:54] * jtgorman keeps being tempted to get on Verizon's unlimited data plan, but is awfully cheap [09:23:55] khatar | yep ... and this will force ms to interoperability so we will really have the choice of our softwares [09:24:04] BigD | anarchivist: and you're my Roseanne [09:24:04] anarchivist | thank gsf for that one [09:24:04] dchud | anarchivist: don't make me start quoting barton fink again. 'cuz you know i will. [09:24:08] jbrinley | escowles: yes, awful today, but better than anything else [09:24:09] rsinger | jtgorman: me too [09:24:09] abarrera | anarchivist++ #cept he ate John Goodman [09:24:10] fak3r | quiet you! [09:24:14] timmcgeary | yelling from the room -- [09:24:19] rsinger | dchud: BECAUSE YOU DON'T [09:24:21] dchud | yelling++ [09:24:23] rsinger | dchud: FUCKING [09:24:26] rsinger | dchud: LISTEN [09:24:27] jtgorman | hopefully my next "phone" will have wireless access [09:24:33] dchud | haw haw! [09:24:45] fak3r | go museums! [09:24:50] fak3r | food4lib? [09:24:57] khatar | anarchivist was the speaker of the "have fun @ code4lib", right ? [09:24:58] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0a00e50ee5e8bc68] has joined #code4lib [09:25:06] jtgorman | I keep thinking "I could look up anything anywhere!"....or I could wait till we get home [09:25:19] jtgorman | although Colleen did get it as an experiment and occasionally I borrow her phone [09:25:26] * anarchivist looks around the room nervously [09:25:28] BigD | abarrera: is my and goodman's turducken [09:25:33] JodiS | BigD: nice: "slide prediction economy" [09:25:42] edsu | lockss [09:25:44] * jtgorman needs to figure out if there's a good browser for her phone cause the built in "web search" on Verizon phones stinks [09:25:44] khatar | anarchivist? where you ? [09:25:46] ejk | BigD: do you roll on shabbas? [09:25:54] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:25:56] akorphan | edsu: lockss is fundamentally a museum model, though [09:25:57] anarchivist | khatar: towards the front of the room [09:26:03] fak3r | vinyl++ [09:26:03] gsf | vinyl++ [09:26:03] akorphan | "lots of backups keeps stuff safe" [09:26:04] rsinger | akorphan: no it's not [09:26:05] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d99d2b10d3049ec8] has joined #code4lib [09:26:12] rjw | vinyl LPs++ [09:26:17] gsf | fanatics++ [09:26:18] fak3r | fanatics? pleeeze [09:26:22] edsu | akorphan: huh, museums are alla about unique objects, not copies [09:26:22] kat3 | bibliophiles++ [09:26:23] lbjay | @rate museums libraries [09:26:26] rsinger | vinyl_LPs-- [09:26:26] khatar | anarchivist, sorry s/h// [09:26:28] zoia | lbjay: museums: 9.8; libraries: 9.9. libraries rocks! [09:26:29] JodiS | dchud: get rid of "physical non-unique copies" seems exactly contrary to "distribute lots of copies, keep your dependencies" (fro myour yesterday) [09:26:31] edsu | akorphan: no? [09:26:33] dchud | "books will go away" is kind of a cheap shot, i hope/expect he'll pull out something a little better. and talk about metaweb. [09:26:39] akorphan | edusu: I really mean in terms of the "preservation" sense. [09:26:40] * anarchivist will be presiding over a turntablism breakout session later [09:26:50] scolford | dchud++ [09:26:51] fak3r | forking mentioned [09:26:51] edsu | akorphan: libraries don't care about preservation? [09:26:52] abarrera | jstroop: u there? [09:26:55] khatar | were you the guy of the funny talk ? [09:27:01] BigD | http://flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2743474142/ [09:27:03] khatar | ok [09:27:03] dchud | the reason we have lots of non-unique copies is because those items are *popular* and we needed lots of copies [09:27:05] akorphan | and the "pretty things we don't touch" (unless there's some kind of e-crisis) sense. [09:27:05] khatar | anarchivist, ++ [09:27:24] scolford | "server cloud" -- if your library has a credit card [09:27:26] bess | umm... he knows this is CODE 4lib, right? This is reminding me of mid-1990s "the book is dead" hysteria [09:27:27] dchud | and we've been making cooperative buying/sharing/loan agreements for 300+ years [09:27:28] fak3r | less shelves, more racks [09:27:37] rsinger | @band add The Karma in the Margins [09:27:38] zoia | rsinger: Band 'The Karma in the Margins' added to list [09:27:43] JodiS | I was right with him, through the history piece [09:27:45] Kerwick | Books are dead?!??! [09:27:47] gsf | @quote add < khatar> were you the guy of the funny talk ? [09:27:47] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1719 added. [09:27:53] JodiS | (what act is this?) [09:27:59] ejk | II [09:28:00] fak3r | JodiS: II [09:28:00] ---| <<-- mib_6d4dxbev [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-67b6eb6203ee6349] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:28:11] JodiS | BigD: awesome photo of you! [09:28:11] cschx | yawns [09:28:14] zoia | cschx: WAKE UP! [09:28:15] BillDueber | JodiS: Act of the apostles [09:28:20] gsf | khatar++ [09:28:21] fak3r | "latecomers will be seated at the discretion of the management" [09:28:24] Kerwick | Is Act III like Hamlet's? [09:28:30] ---| ---> skoczko [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4f5ef905f8c4680c] has joined #code4lib [09:28:34] jbrinley | the world will have more info by that point [09:28:34] BillDueber | 'Cause, you know, Moore's Law isn't ever going to slow down or anything. [09:28:40] JodiS | filtering is how we know what we want to read [09:28:41] bess | uh, no, in fact the world will never "literally" fit in your pocket. [09:28:44] timmcgeary | is that the whole world in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? [09:28:45] BillDueber | "every data"??? [09:28:58] escowles | every datum [09:29:03] mbklein | bess: Parachute pants notwithstanding [09:29:10] akorphan | I think Moore's Law Is Dead hysteria is about as frequent as The Book Is Dead hysteria [09:29:11] scolford | I would like to filter faulty or dangerous medical or financial information. Wouldn't you? [09:29:16] BigD | JodiS: oddly, that's actually John Goodman [09:29:23] fak3r | QUIET! [09:29:27] rosy1280 | metadata doesn't exist [09:29:31] rosy1280 | its just data [09:29:46] rsinger | zoia: you have anything to say about this? [09:29:46] * anarchivist loves metadata [09:29:48] zoia | rsinger: Well, fry my feet for a couple of garfish, why don't you? [09:29:49] kat3 | i'll be talking with an electronic voicebox by then, but yes i could [09:29:49] fak3r | when is going to mention something about the cloud? [09:29:57] edsu | @stock GOOG [09:29:59] BigD | anarchivist should marry metadata [09:30:00] zoia | edsu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:30:02] skoczko | loving metadata [09:30:04] khatar | lightning talk proposal: "write concise and readable perl code" [09:30:07] rsinger | edsu: OH NOES [09:30:08] edsu | &sigh; [09:30:08] kgs | iVia was already doing credible metadata and abstracting five years ago [09:30:09] khatar | interesting ? [09:30:15] * jtgorman is guessing the keynote is striking dissonance tones [09:30:16] JodiS | kgs: what's iVia? [09:30:26] edsu | rosy1280++ [09:30:26] dchud | kat3: great now i've got peter frampton on my brain [09:30:27] mbklein | @foaf kgs interest [09:30:28] zoia | mbklein: kgs : http://dbpedia.org/resource/Writing, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Beer, http://dbpedia.org/Open_source_software, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Food, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Politics [09:30:36] khatar | (frommy own experience with librarian code) [09:30:39] JodiS | jtgorman: world of books in your pocket, book museums, getting rid of metadata--rely on full-text [09:30:41] BigD | in 50 years, we'll be inside the computers [09:30:42] kgs | JodiS it's portal software develped by Steve Mitchell et al at UC Riverside [09:30:46] jbrinley | mbklein++ [09:30:47] skoczko | Hi gus is any one using git as their dvcs? [09:30:48] anarchivist | @foaf anarchivist interest [09:30:51] zoia | i think there is a xslt crosswalk for that [09:30:53] zoia | anarchivist: anarchivist : http://dbpedia.org/resource/Mod_revival, http://dbpedia.org/resource/C86_%28music%29, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Python_%28programming_language%29, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Archival_science, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Metadata, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Beer, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Mod_%28lifestyle%29, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Digital_curation, (1 more message) [09:30:57] gsf | attack books all you want, but leave metadata alone [09:31:06] abarrera | BigD: i think they got rid of the room sized comps that would fit you [09:31:07] zoia | take my metadata, please? [09:31:09] wtd | skoczko: I use it a bit. [09:31:12] epoz | tis a bad sine that I find the IRC more interesting than the keynote. :-( [09:31:12] dchud | skoczko: i'm a bit bzr fan. git doesn't fit my brain very well. [09:31:16] kat3 | gsf++ [09:31:21] dchud | s/bit/big/ [09:31:22] mbklein | jbrinley: :) [09:31:22] mbklein | @knows mbklein anarchivist [09:31:22] JodiS | kgs: cool, found it [09:31:23] anarchivist | I ONLY AM INTERESTED IN REALIA [09:31:25] zoia | mbklein: mbklein knows anarchivist, but anarchivist does not know mbklein. [09:31:28] fak3r | epoz++ [09:31:29] skoczko | cause I plan do the a ltalk on git [09:31:29] JodiS | http://ivia.ucr.edu/index.shtml [09:31:30] fak3r | git++ [09:31:42] BillDueber | skoczko++ # do it [09:31:42] ---| ---> mib_60fv6b [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ad2088561d72b4ff] has joined #code4lib [09:31:43] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ef7eb97885f60107] has joined #code4lib [09:31:43] * anarchivist is too much of a git t use git [09:31:44] skoczko | we use quite succesfulyy in our company [09:31:47] bess | shoczko: yes, please doa talk on git [09:31:48] anarchivist | s/t/to [09:31:53] ---| <<-- fereira [i=HydraIRC@wsip-70-164-25-35.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") [09:31:53] kgs | yeah it's a profoundly interesting project [09:31:55] jrochkind100 | pretty sure [09:31:56] jbrinley | @foaf jbrinley depiction [09:31:57] BillDueber | @sing Monkees : Randy Souse Git [09:31:57] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley : http://www.adeliedesign.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/jon.png [09:31:59] gsf | mbklein++ jbrinley++ for @foaf [09:32:00] zoia | BillDueber: No lyrics for Randy Souse Git by Monkees. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:32:05] * mbklein wants to understand distributed version control. Help me, Obi-Wan. [09:32:05] JodiS | IT'S NOT A TRANSITION!!!! [09:32:08] BigD | epoz: welcome to c4l! ;) [09:32:15] JodiS | irc++ [09:32:17] wtd | skoczko: Excellent! [09:32:18] anarchivist | transitions_lenses-- [09:32:24] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ef7eb97885f60107] has quit (Client Quit) [09:32:30] jbrinley | @known [09:32:31] zoia jbrinley: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, akorphan, anarchivist, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, mbklein, mjg_, royt, scolford, wickr, zoia [09:32:32] epoz | is anarchivist mentioning git in his DVCS talk? [09:32:36] mbklein | gsf++ for letting us run rampant over breaksalot.org :) [09:32:37] anarchivist | epoz: briefly [09:32:41] skoczko | ok, so at least two people will be interested :) [09:32:45] mbklein | @forget zoia [09:32:46] zoia | mbklein: Funny. Not. [09:32:48] * jtgorman thinks non-library people as keynotes is always a gamble [09:32:51] epoz | ah, i see you mentioned that already [09:32:52] bess | hi, you must be new here. Yes, in fact, people have thought about some of this stuff before. Even in libraries. [09:32:54] anarchivist | epoz: git is too complicated and is officially not a DVCS [09:32:58] dchud | ok maybe now he's getting to metaweb. [09:33:01] ---| <<-- Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9dcbac580220874f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:33:01] ---| <<-- kevinreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-801d302900f67991] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:33:01] ---| <<-- mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d09c11c560c662e5] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:33:07] skoczko | epoz: what are you taling about? [09:33:10] anarchivist | epoz: i'm too stupid to use git, so i use hg and bzr [09:33:11] dchud | hey, that's 100 people in here [09:33:14] harmless | if we get granular enough information, cyc will be really interesting... [09:33:16] skoczko | what do you mean not dvcs? [09:33:17] kgs | wherez kittenz? [09:33:22] fak3r | @foaf fak3r interest [09:33:23] zoia | fak3r: fak3r : http://dbpedia.org/resource/Indie_rock, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Erik_Estrada, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Open_source, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Art, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Geek, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Politics, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Jazz, cwQaxxQq793, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Yoga, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Beer, http://dbpedia.org/resource/Linux [09:33:27] epoz | i lean towards bzr iso git being a Python bigot [09:33:32] mikeybe | i.e metadata [09:33:35] mikeybe | ?? [09:33:39] skoczko | hg is a git fork, the usage is identical [09:33:40] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dffe591d3fb76aac] has joined #code4lib [09:33:44] anarchivist | STOP, DEMO TIME [09:33:45] fak3r | harmless: I used to know someone at Cyc - anyone using opencyc? [09:33:49] timmcgeary | demoing that books are dead? [09:33:56] rsinger | @dict cwQaxxQq793 [09:33:57] zoia | rsinger: No definition for "cwQaxxQq793" could be found. [09:34:01] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0b5b2281ece265b3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:34:10] MrDys | freeeeeeeeeeeeeeebase [09:34:14] BigD | Ask a Librarian [09:34:18] fak3r | relvance? [09:34:21] akorphan | So... the semantic web is good for Jeopardy answers? [09:34:26] timmcgeary | 4 [09:34:29] fak3r | akorphan: apparently [09:34:32] dchud | ...if only there were a company i work for that helps us answer these questions... [09:34:33] harmless | ...google [09:34:38] edsu | FREEBASE! [09:34:41] BillDueber | If you care about these questions, you need to rethink your life. [09:34:42] dchud | I WOULD GO TO THE LIBRARY [09:34:45] anarchivist | BigD: you put the SPARQL in my eyes [09:34:47] BillDueber | Except maybe the civil war one. [09:34:50] edsu | i would google it :) [09:34:51] BigD | i'd send a grant to MIT [09:34:52] bess | I would say, "you shoudl go ask a reference librarians. That's not my job." [09:34:53] abarrera | i'd use an encylopedia [09:35:05] fak3r | what is this book you speak of? [09:35:07] eom | Call a friend? Because polling the audience didn't work. [09:35:10] rsinger | "I would put the heroin in a spoon, put the lighter underneath it..." [09:35:11] kat3 | honesty++ [09:35:17] akorphan | I think the assertion that the degranularization from book to data leaves out the notion that *narrative* is a necessity for all kinds of reading, research, etc. [09:35:21] timmcgeary | wikipedia via google [09:35:27] jrochkind100 | send em to the reference desk [09:35:27] akorphan | If you need facts, sure, this is cool. [09:35:29] anarchivist | asnagy++ [09:35:40] mbklein | I'd ask in channel and wait for mjgiarlo to make some shit up. [09:35:42] scolford | akorphan++ [09:35:44] mikeybe | those were all googlable questions...books provide scope on arguments [09:35:45] fak3r | potatoe++ [09:35:47] dchud | mbklein++ [09:35:49] jbrinley | mbklein++ [09:35:52] ---| ---> kevinreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8706b7c87386d3a] has joined #code4lib [09:35:52] anarchivist | freebasing++ [09:35:55] akorphan | akorphan_grammar-- [09:35:55] * kat3 just realized i'm sitting right next to one of the electronic speakers [09:36:01] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65e4ef3092094c42] has joined #code4lib [09:36:02] edsu | it's crazy how much books are turning up in google reesults now [09:36:05] ---| ---> mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f063bba81d1eddb8] has joined #code4lib [09:36:07] edsu | results [09:36:07] mbklein | I NEED ONLY ONE AUTHORITY AND HE WEARS A NECKBEARD [09:36:09] mib_nch3tkl0 | omg...I thought of freebase when he asked! [09:36:23] mbklein | Is there a term for a phonetic (not alphabetic) anagram? Anaphone? [09:36:25] jrochkind100 | he's stealing your talk, man. [09:36:26] mikeybe | with google we all feel like we are professionals on a topic in 3 minutes [09:36:29] jrochkind100 | is an electronic speaker like a robot? [09:36:32] gsf | trick question [09:36:33] BigD | way to bring us down [09:36:34] khatar | IMDB ! [09:36:35] ---| <<-- kevinreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8706b7c87386d3a] has quit (Client Quit) [09:36:46] fak3r | usa, usa! [09:36:48] JodiS | good to have him talking about freebase [09:36:48] kat3 | jrochkind100: yes but louder [09:36:50] kevin7kal | g8tor: I'm in this room as well [09:36:59] fak3r | should have pre-cached the images [09:37:04] mbklein | Al Obama? [09:37:08] * anarchivist is too hungover for a history lesson [09:37:11] BigD | the french surrendered [09:37:17] timmcgeary | BigD++ [09:37:29] fak3r | freedom fries considered [09:37:38] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-175ae1f3fdc01c90] has joined #code4lib [09:37:40] JodiS | harmless: cyc is interesting. hope it'll come through with enough time [09:37:42] BigD | they are actually still in the confederacy [09:37:42] anarchivist | vimeo++ [09:37:46] * JodiS has a few friends who used to work for Cycorp [09:37:49] dchud | for every one of these questions, i know multiple librarians who would know hte answers off the top of their heads [09:37:52] rosy1280 | french fries are good for hangovers [09:37:54] timmcgeary | the French? [09:38:03] anarchivist | was that sosumi? [09:38:18] akorphan | rosy1280: Greasy food only provides temporary relief from hangovers [09:38:25] fak3r | linked to items? how? [09:38:25] jbrinley | dchud: can I have copies of those librarians? [09:38:27] ejk | sosumi++ [09:38:28] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-175ae1f3fdc01c90] has quit (Client Quit) [09:38:29] rsinger | dchud: that's a difficult model for web scale, though [09:38:29] JodiS | dchud: you know some awesome librarians [09:38:32] mbklein | Parallax is awesome, but all I really use it for is scaring the technophobic librarians. [09:38:38] gsf | dchud: this is eerily similar to desk set [09:38:39] jrochkind100 | the FIRST interface to allow this.... since DIALOG. [09:38:49] ---| ---> mib_eh3pc9n7 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eaa6d7504ff8bed2] has joined #code4lib [09:38:53] akorphan | Your liver just gets busy metabolizing the fat rather than the formaldehyde precursors causing the hangover for a while. [09:38:58] * JodiS needs to know more about DIALOG [09:38:58] anarchivist | dialog++ [09:39:01] fak3r | slow_searching++ [09:39:02] ---| <<-- calvinm_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c521d283e1106bd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:39:02] dchud | gsf: strange, all the clerks in the mailroom just got RAISES! [09:39:06] jrochkind100 | except without katherine hepburn. [09:39:12] dchud | and the rest of us have been LAID OFF! [09:39:17] khatar | grmbl! intrusive javascript :( [09:39:21] wtd | bunnywatson++ [09:39:22] mbklein | Our print reference collection doesn't slow down with use. [09:39:29] fak3r | ...buffering... [09:39:29] kat3 | jrochkind100: then what's the point? :( [09:39:34] ---| <<-- reeset [n=chatzill@128-193-147-211.oregonstate.edu] has quit (Connection timed out) [09:39:35] dchud | JodiS: definitely so [09:39:40] chickmarkley | you are experiencing denial of speech attack by audience [09:39:44] fak3r | ghostbusters [09:39:52] dchud | rsinger: does answering those questions need to happen at web scale? we managed to do stuff like that before the web. [09:39:52] mbklein | live_demo++ [09:40:00] akorphan | My head hurts from all the spinners [09:40:02] * rjw madly rewriting presentation for slooooow network [09:40:06] akorphan | I htink i'm getting motion sicness [09:40:13] wtd | Someone find the answer somewhere else and shout it out.. [09:40:18] akorphan | s/a bunch of stuff/some other stuff [09:40:22] rsinger | dchud: meh [09:40:23] fak3r | building_facets++ [09:40:25] * kat3 resists the urge to make a "ridin' spinners" joke [09:40:35] fak3r | ...buffering... [09:40:37] epoz | interesting. digital heckling burns bandwidth causing presenter demo grief [09:40:39] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2608aa875d9640c5] has joined #code4lib [09:40:42] anarchivist | kat3++ [09:40:43] jbrinley | mbklein: so if someone else is using the book I want, I can use it at the same time? [09:40:48] dchud | is there a wire on a quiet subnet for the speaker's podium? [09:40:58] akorphan | Quick, everyone start playing youtube clips! [09:41:01] mbklein | jbrinley++ touche [09:41:11] bess | should i not be bittorrenting right now? [09:41:11] chickmarkley | jbrinley:you have to read slower [09:41:14] timmcgeary | dchud: there should be [09:41:15] ---| <<-- Cliffw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1cd9a846b1e338d7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:41:15] anarchivist | bess++ [09:41:17] rsinger | since we're all torrenting my dj 4 an hour files on the public wireless? [09:41:20] rjw | working in a spin [09:41:22] * mbklein waits for the RickRoll [09:41:25] timmcgeary | getting the latest 24, bess? [09:41:35] mbklein | NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UUUUUP... [09:41:46] scolford | akorphan: nothing provides permanent relief from hangovers. especially if you go out drinking again. [09:41:49] akorphan | [09:41:54] timmcgeary | I can't listen any slower [09:41:55] BigD | hmm [09:42:03] anarchivist | *crickets* [09:42:13] timmcgeary | doing_stuff++ [09:42:15] MrDys | looks like my plan to do a live demo was not a great one... [09:42:15] abarrera | he lost me at hello [09:42:16] BillDueber | Note to self: be prepared to talk over slow network. [09:42:17] mbklein | doing_stuff_down_at_the_bottom++ [09:42:19] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0ada31af0c732d82] has joined #code4lib [09:42:28] skoczko | Hi Mike! [09:42:29] abarrera | why did 7 people just get up [09:42:31] BigD | freebase ate the tubes [09:42:37] lbjay | PLAY THE CRICKETS! [09:42:39] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [09:42:40] lbjay | eff that [09:42:40] gsf | stop using sites! [09:42:45] anarchivist | ATTICA [09:42:47] anarchivist | ATTICA [09:42:49] anarchivist | ATTICA [09:42:53] akorphan | admonishment-- [09:42:57] ---| <--- abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [09:42:57] dchud | is there a wire on a quiet subnet for the speaker's podium? [09:43:02] wickr | yes, irc is so bandwidth heavy [09:43:02] harmless | anyone have a fast data plan on their cell? [09:43:03] ---| <<-- ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0207699883fa79b4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:43:12] MikeTaylor | If RDF is the answer, can we have understood the question? [09:43:12] BillDueber | 5 minute minor for chatting [09:43:18] mbklein | It's not the IRC bandwidth, it's the overhead of 100 ssh tunnels to get to freenode... [09:43:19] paulalbert | I wonder if it's so slow because I'm downloading the entire second season of Hannah Montana in HD. [09:43:20] anarchivist | HAS ANYONE SEEN MY WIMAX CARD [09:43:20] JodiS | live demos require a backup plane [09:43:21] rosy1280 | slow interwebs [09:43:26] scolford | freebase is causing an unacceptable lag in mibbit [09:43:30] rsinger | you know, a librarian wouldn't have these problems [09:43:31] wickr | harmless: reception sucks down here [09:43:33] JodiS | dchud: quiet net makes sens [09:43:34] gsf | mbklein: true, true [09:43:35] JodiS | sense [09:43:36] * zoia chuckles [09:43:40] timmcgeary | rsinger++ [09:43:42] anarchivist | rsinger++ [09:43:44] rsinger | @decide books or internet [09:43:44] fak3r | connection reset by peer [09:43:44] fak3r | paganation++ [09:43:44] fak3r | how we doing on time? [09:43:44] fak3r | obviously [09:43:44] fak3r | blame the victim [09:43:45] zoia | rsinger: go with internet [09:43:46] edsu | MikeTaylor: how do you build a distributed database on the web? [09:43:51] rsinger | zoia: you would say that [09:43:52] zoia | rsinger: http://wrongcards.com/ecard/im-sorry-my-thetans-made-me-do-it [09:43:54] ---| ---> mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8565f36c0aecdb7] has joined #code4lib [09:44:00] chickmarkley | should schedule multiple speakers at same time, multi-tasking rules [09:44:20] ---| <<-- mib_60fv6b [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ad2088561d72b4ff] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:44:24] ---| <--- mib_eh3pc9n7 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eaa6d7504ff8bed2] has left #code4lib () [09:44:43] jbrinley | fak3r: 16 minutes left [09:44:47] MikeTaylor | edsu: something fuzzier. Any solution that begins with "Hey, let's just get everyone to input everything with rigour!" is not a solution. [09:44:55] mjg_ | wireless-- [09:44:57] * jtgorman starts pondering the fact that perhaps code4lib needs a proxy/cache/fake server [09:44:59] gsf | the joy of sets [09:44:59] akorphan | all day long I think about sets [09:45:00] timmcgeary | chickmarkley: dueling speakers? [09:45:01] mib_nch3tkl0 | question about presentation...how does cloud computing work in areas with poor infrastructure for networks? [09:45:16] skoczko | Mike, RDF is the answer to every problem in the world [09:45:17] paulalbert | akorphan++ [09:45:26] jtgorman | ie for conference you can set up any servers you need (vms galore) and download the websites ahead of time [09:45:36] ---| <<-- Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65e4ef3092094c42] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:45:36] mikeybe | can you make private freebase data sets? [09:45:36] * BillDueber understands sets. I'm not sure I understand directed graphs at a deep enough level to understand RDF [09:45:41] mib_nch3tkl0 | also, librariny q...since freebase queries things like wikipedia, how do we verify info? [09:45:42] wtd | Network problems are why I'm getting more into keeping things under version control and synching up when I need to. [09:45:44] mikeybe | i.e. not open to the public? [09:45:48] MrDys | mikeybe: yes [09:45:59] akorphan | mib_bladeblaa: I was thinking about that at the linkeddata preconf [09:46:04] ---| <<-- cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-584d473bd67b8832] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:46:04] ---| ---> mhs_uva [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f763eea60ffc6238] has joined #code4lib [09:46:11] akorphan | What if you get two sources that provide different dates for King Lear? [09:46:12] MrDys | mikeybe: only in a 'testing area' sandboxy kind of sense, but yeah [09:46:17] akorphan | how do you discriminate? [09:46:25] ---| ---> adickmeiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e1c68661349822f0] has joined #code4lib [09:46:35] ---| ---> mcdonald [i=d0365e4e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5509910a9fffabe] has joined #code4lib [09:46:37] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81e1e4120e852791] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:46:52] mouwd | isn't that imdb? [09:46:57] ---| ---> rosy1280_ [n=rosy1280@155.47.17.158] has joined #code4lib [09:46:59] gsf | trainspotting++ [09:47:08] BillDueber | mouwd: No. It's darker. [09:47:11] mikeybe | where's kevin bacon? [09:47:12] rjw | click-n-browse++ [09:47:20] ---| <<-- cbeer [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e6133107bd475b4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:47:25] ---| <<-- rosy1280 [n=rosy1280@155.47.17.158] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:47:25] dchud | ...and we're back [09:47:25] * dchud turns on "bonjour" network connection in adium [09:47:25] dchud | MrDys: make a little screencap of your demo [09:47:27] scolford | aggregative++ [09:47:39] ---| ---> cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has joined #code4lib [09:47:48] akorphan | a universal api for all data is a pretty cool idea, admittedly. [09:47:51] dchud | imdb with better css! [09:47:56] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-42c7c461431202c7] has joined #code4lib [09:47:58] dchud | imdb with better css! [09:48:13] wickr | a bit more editable too [09:48:14] jbrinley | akorphan: you look at the sources used for those sources, same as you would with books/encyclopedias [09:48:23] jbrinley | akorphan: ultimately, it comes down to trust [09:48:30] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: The Impact of Global Digital Natives || del.icio.us: State of the Art - Amazon.com's Kindle Goes From Good to Better - NYTimes.com || del.icio.us: rda4lib || Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxy [09:48:38] akorphan | jbrinley: re: Lear? [09:49:08] skoczko | six degrees of kevin bacon [09:49:10] akorphan | Sure, but the predominant convention for trust on the web at this time is amount of linking, which is a bit suspect. [09:49:34] timmcgeary | bill clinton - who's your daddy? [09:49:34] bess | freebase++ # this was what I wanted to hear more about [09:49:45] rjw | bacon++ [09:49:52] dchud | imdb with better css! [09:49:52] dchud | wickr: imdb edit contribs are vetted [09:49:52] dchud | not sayin' that's better necessarily [09:49:53] skoczko | http://oracleofbacon.org/ [09:49:58] kat3 | http://translate.stefanomazzocchi.user.dev.freebaseapps.com [09:50:05] timmcgeary | oracleofbacon.org++ [09:50:10] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [09:50:16] akorphan | erdos++ [09:50:21] ---| ---> dlovins [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33cceb7d4913dab6] has joined #code4lib [09:50:27] MikeTaylor | COme back, mpark! It's meaningless without you! [09:50:29] jbrinley | akorphan: you're welcome to use your own methods to determine who you trust on the web [09:50:30] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:50:46] ejk | recaptcha is a game? [09:50:56] MikeTaylor | Any solution that begins "you are welcome to use your own methods to ..." is not a solution. [09:51:00] mjg_ | a crying game [09:51:12] rosy1280_ | a game where you guess what the image really says [09:51:15] rosy1280_ | squinty like [09:51:21] harmless | books have that problem too. a lot of questionable stuff gets printed. a lot of journalists write articles from too few research papers with too small samples or too preliminary, etc. [09:51:23] Kerwick | recaptcha is what you do when the other team has your flag [09:51:24] harmless | do we have any standard metric for information quality? [09:51:25] MikeTaylor | (I am going to copyright this "any solution that begins with X is not a solution" template.) [09:51:26] jbrinley | MikeTaylor: but it's the same solution that we already have for print [09:51:29] lbjay | is martin still not here? anders is doing his talk next? [09:51:33] akorphan | MikeTaylor++ [09:51:34] jtgorman | Kerwick++ [09:51:35] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [09:51:50] jrochkind100 | diseased? [09:51:56] JodiS | harmless: good question re: info quality metrics! [09:51:57] akorphan | jbrinley: But the notion here is that you're trying to make some kind of automated knowledge aggregator [09:52:05] MikeTaylor | jbrinley, I thought we were trying to IMPROVE on what we already have. [09:52:06] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9bd7259e7562063e] has joined #code4lib [09:52:06] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d43f201f683023d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:52:06] akorphan | so automation++ [09:52:13] ---| ---> calvinm_ [i=calvinm@fraser.sfu.ca] has joined #code4lib [09:52:54] gsf | ooh, the "is this person really dead?" game [09:52:57] JodiS | crowdsourcing on http://typewriter.freebaseapps.com/ [09:53:02] akorphan | Dead or Canadian? [09:53:07] Kerwick | Dead pool [09:53:15] ---| ---> mib_qe0d1gjq [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-207328b35bca9dee] has joined #code4lib [09:53:20] * lbjay has played the "is this a television show?" game [09:53:24] dchud | i'm not convinced that crowdsourcing is necessarily different from Gale or whoever paying staff to edit reference sources [09:53:28] jbrinley | MikeTaylor: yes, improve it. But don't say that the Internet is worse than print just because you don't have better solutions for certain problems [09:53:29] jrochkind100 | i can't see the addiction. [09:53:32] JodiS | dchud: no, but it's cheaper [09:53:34] timmcgeary | not addicted [09:53:35] ecorrado | akorphan: is there a difference? [09:53:36] ---| User: *** mib_qe0d1gjq is now known as fak3r [09:53:41] abarrera | great taking advantage of those with OCD [09:53:45] gsf | you people are obviously not gamers [09:53:45] akorphan | jbrinley: authorities++ [09:53:47] kat3 | i dont have a problem [09:53:50] harmless | the metric would have to be objective and repeatable---you wouldn't want to rely on any one central authority to tell you if your information is good, it would have to be something you could independently verify [09:53:52] jrochkind100 | can I win a million dollars if i get them right? [09:53:53] MrDys | jrochkind100: it's the same addiction as 'hot or not' [09:53:56] MikeTaylor | jbrinley, sorry, that wasn't AT ALL what I meant to say! Only that the specific solutions currently on offer are disappointing. [09:54:06] JodiS | dchud: trying to find commonality? [09:54:07] anarchivist | zoia: are you bot or not [09:54:09] zoia | anarchivist: rake gerbils:deploy [09:54:17] BillDueber | Great. Votes by people who don't know what the hell they're talking about. I can get that now on IRC. [09:54:22] jrochkind100 | MrDys: except without pictures of hot people. [09:54:33] MrDys | jrochkind100: more necrophilic, yes [09:54:35] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34adcc36e5f41a59] has joined #code4lib [09:54:49] rjw | vote for you favourite subject heading! [09:54:59] * Baroquem admits that he would compulsively sort the living and the dead. [09:55:02] kat3 | self-regulating data reliability [09:55:02] jbrinley | @karma mjgiarlo [09:55:03] zoia | jbrinley: Karma for "mjgiarlo" has been increased 1159 times and decreased 108 times for a total karma of 1051. [09:55:11] scolford | hey, don't tell me what my gender is. [09:55:13] JodiS | someone's going to raise the metacrap question, right? [09:55:14] paulalbert | wisdom of crowds only works when there's no echo chamber effect [09:55:14] jrochkind100 | fun! [09:55:15] abarrera | mjgiarlo: not sure if he's male or female [09:55:15] kgs | @karma kgs [09:55:16] zoia | kgs: Karma for "kgs" has been increased 112 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 108. [09:55:19] rsinger | harmless: we don't do that now? [09:55:24] Kerwick | Hey! It's Pat! [09:55:28] gsf | don't squeeze me into your dichotomous gender machine [09:55:30] anarchivist | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/funny-pictures-your-cat-fights-the-rice-paper.jpg [09:55:31] JodiS | paulalbert: echo chamber, interested parties, ... other problems? [09:55:32] JodiS | gsf++ [09:55:34] timmcgeary | Pat++ [09:55:39] mjg_ | jbrinley++ # which thereby shows what little value crowdsourcing has [09:55:46] timmcgeary | gsf++ [09:55:49] ecorrado | 5 minute warning has been issued [09:55:50] fak3r | not now [09:55:55] jrochkind100 | 'biological organisms'? E. Coli -- m or f? [09:55:56] JodiS | Pat-- #for marginalizing trans people, and people beyond the gender binary [09:56:06] kgs | Facebook is strangely old-fashioned about gender and marriage [09:56:16] MikeTaylor | I don't get it. Why would anyone say, "Oh, I have a couple of free hours, why don't I spend them classifying the genders or random people"? [09:56:18] akorphan | kgs: example of latter? [09:56:29] kat3 | kgs: there's actually an app extension for that [09:56:31] ---| ---> mib_zwbls57a [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-280f3669b26816ef] has joined #code4lib [09:56:34] fak3r | MikeTaylor++ [09:56:36] JodiS | paulalbert: it's ripe for a "metacrap" essay about crowdsourcing. want to write one? [09:56:38] BillDueber | MikeTaylor: 'Cause Full House isn't on TV? [09:56:39] timmcgeary | don't play with your arrow keys like that [09:56:50] rsinger | MikeTaylor: why do people do that for librarything? [09:56:50] akorphan | miketaylor: maybe if you could make it part of a captcha.... [09:56:54] harmless | rsinger: maybe! do you know of some metrics for info. quality? i'm sure there are some, would be interesting to see what's out there for that ... [09:56:58] rsinger | MikeTaylor: and yet, THEY DO [09:57:00] kgs | In FB you can be married or "it's complicated" [09:57:10] fak3r | FB-- [09:57:12] MikeTaylor | rsinger: maybe the world has more very bored people in it than I realised. [09:57:14] akorphan | kgs: no "partner" or anything:? [09:57:16] rsinger | harmless: what metrics do we currently have? [09:57:18] kgs | after 16 years it's not complicated: I just meekly follow orders [09:57:21] jrochkind100 | i thought marriage was always complicated [09:57:22] jbrinley | MikeTaylor: no, the question is: I'm bored in this lecture. What can I do to pass the time that won't be to obvious to my prof? [09:57:28] fak3r | he did a search and it came back? [09:57:38] paulalbert | JodiS: I don't know anything. I'm just repeating what I heard a guest say on Colbert. :) [09:57:42] skoczko | no one is gonnna spend time writing down relations and dependencies that seem obvious to him, unfortunately those relations are not obvious for the machine [09:57:49] rsinger | MikeTaylor: i mean, i don't get it either, but these people exist [09:57:50] MikeTaylor | jbrinley -- you mean THIS lecture in particular? [09:57:50] timmcgeary | kgs++ [09:57:51] JodiS | paulalbert: ok, will have to search for that later. thanks for the lead! [09:57:59] fak3r | that "I" use? [09:58:02] skoczko | that's why semantic web is flawed in it's design [09:58:11] rsinger | MikeTaylor: wikipedia, evidently, being the realization of this [09:58:18] anarchivist | too bad this is not python [09:58:18] Baroquem | Not boredom. It's fun to bring order to chaos. [09:58:19] akorphan | I just can't get 100% behind the "factual by majority assertion" model of authority. [09:58:29] MikeTaylor | Wikipedia is a bit different, because what you build has more substance. [09:58:31] dchud | ecorrado++ [09:58:31] akorphan | It does work a lot of the time, but is that good enough? really? [09:58:33] khatar | are those apps written in acre? [09:58:35] * JodiS has a great desire to bring info together [09:58:35] kgs | akorphan++ [09:58:38] jbrinley | MikeTaylor: no, just the millions of students sitting in college classrooms with their computers right now [09:58:46] harmless | rsinger: i don't know. i'm asking :) ...i said i'm sure there are some because academia is all about making metrics for things [09:58:55] JodiS | akorphan: yup, that's a big deal. "The majority is always wrong" (or whatever Ibsen said) [09:58:58] rsinger | MikeTaylor: well, this requires less work, really --- some people are editors. Some people are drones. [09:58:59] bess | akorphan: agree there's way too many things that "everybody knows" that are not actually true. [09:59:00] rjw | reading raw json-- [09:59:02] * BillDueber likes the query format. [09:59:03] paulalbert | JodiS: Out of curiosity, do you have a publication or forum in mind? [09:59:12] gsf | reading raw json > reading raw xml [09:59:17] mjg_ | json++ [09:59:26] JodiS | easy cloning is nice [09:59:26] anarchivist | json++ # however i am realizing i really hate json [09:59:38] rsinger | you're gonna be looking at both raw json and raw xml in about 40 minutes [09:59:39] BillDueber | reading yaml > reading json [09:59:42] JodiS | paulalbert: not offhand. ideas? [09:59:44] jbrinley | akorphan: you just want to go with a majority of one particular population (self-described experts) rather than a different population [09:59:49] BillDueber | rsinger: That assumes we're paying attention. [09:59:50] gsf | rsinger: such a tease [09:59:50] * anarchivist just realized yesterday that you can't pass rdf+xml into exhibit [09:59:51] ejk | sosumi+- [09:59:54] skoczko | JSON 4ever! [09:59:58] anarchivist | at least directly [10:00:02] anarchivist | wild_eep++ [10:00:04] jrochkind100 | cc-by still not appropriate for data. [10:00:04] JodiS | akorphan: that makes me think of Galileo, Copernicus, ... [10:00:13] gsf | acre++ looks cool [10:00:16] jrochkind100 | franco still dead. [10:00:17] abarrera | except that people have taken the data from sites/books etc which weren't CC [10:00:17] bess | this seems like an awesome source for music and movie metadata [10:00:29] ---| ---> michaeldb [n=michaeld@CPE0012170da427-CM000a739b087e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #code4lib [10:00:30] JodiS | nice bell! [10:00:32] akorphan | JodiS: If we could make an automated scientific methodizer.... [10:00:32] rsinger | bess: agreed -- MrDys is talking about this stuff [10:00:36] timmcgeary | bell++ [10:00:43] akorphan | OCCAMBOT [10:00:45] mjg_ | was that royt clicking his rocks glass? [10:00:46] rjw | json++ as long as I don't have to see it! [10:00:46] JodiS | jrochkind100: cc-by problem WAY impt! [10:00:50] anarchivist | acid++ [10:00:56] jrochkind100 | abarrera: you are allowed to take FACTS from books and do whatever you want with them. Facts not copyrightable. Whcih is why CC is still not appropriate for data. [10:00:58] dhanu | is it possible to download all the presentation slides from some where? [10:01:04] JodiS | akorphan: what's an automated scientific methodizer? [10:01:09] ---| <<-- dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d2e6e8678390f0e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:01:15] khatar | yaml++ even if i have to see it :) [10:01:18] MrDys | good quick intro to freebase...didn't end up cannabalizing my presentation too much [10:01:19] jbrinley | bell = cup + fork [10:01:20] wickr | dhanu: they'll be linked up eventually [10:01:22] JodiS | dhanu: good question. One hopes they'll get added to the http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [10:01:29] paulalbert | Jodis: nothing good. All my essays go on my girlfriends blog. [10:01:30] ---| <--- scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ee1d28a747780337] has left #code4lib () [10:01:33] JodiS | royt: can you ask Stefano to link his slides? [10:01:34] rsinger | is that my nemesis? [10:01:35] ---| <<-- harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d99d2b10d3049ec8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:01:40] jbrinley | dhanu: propably linked from http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule eventually [10:01:41] akorphan | JodiS: If only I knew, it would solve a lot of these problems. [10:01:44] JodiS | paulalbert: dude, get a new blog, or marry your girlfriend! :) [10:01:47] * BillDueber needs that bell to add to his book and cup. [10:01:48] dhanu | cool :) [10:01:49] timmcgeary | jbrinley: is that like at a wedding? [10:01:52] anarchivist | is there water smewherere around here? [10:01:59] anarchivist | ugh [10:02:01] akorphan | anarchivist: back and to the right, I think. [10:02:04] MrDys | anarchivist: back of the room [10:02:05] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:02:09] eom | pitchers in the back [10:02:10] wickr | anarchivist: pitchers at back wall [10:02:12] rsinger | THANK GOD [10:02:13] timmcgeary | rush for the water [10:02:13] JodiS | paulalbert: well, I've got a blog (technically) [10:02:28] MikeTaylor | Can anyone here express "bell = cup + fork" in RDF? Can you express the scope of this relation's applicability? [10:02:33] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:02:33] akorphan | jbrinley: that was quite the sonorous cup + fork. [10:02:38] * anarchivist feels the naragansett waging war inside his body [10:02:46] MikeTaylor | Saved by the cup+fork [10:02:51] akorphan | You'd need a quad I think [10:02:52] paulalbert | JodiS: ha ha [10:02:55] anarchivist | mmm, tastes like genocide [10:02:58] akorphan | (result, item1, item2, interaction) [10:03:06] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7f833dbf0c2e4aaf] has joined #code4lib [10:03:14] BillDueber | Oops. Nerd isn't here. [10:03:20] jrochkind100 | the knife ran away with the spoon. [10:03:21] ---| <<-- epoz [i=46a41928@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e32a5ef1fa4951e7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:03:21] akorphan | oh anarchivist, just say no to gansett [10:03:37] anarchivist | naragansett++ [10:03:41] anarchivist | $2.50 at as220 [10:03:43] akorphan | there's a reason it's as cheap as it is [10:03:46] skoczko | hearsBell -> ihibitsSenseOfHunger -> isRelatedTo -> [Cup] isRelatedTo [fork] [10:03:51] akorphan | also a reason why it wasn't made for 10 years. [10:03:54] lbjay | @help foaf [10:03:55] zoia | lbjay: (foaf ) -- Returns the objects of the given predicate in the given nick's FOAF. [10:03:59] BillDueber | jrochkind100: The dish should have known the spoon would leave. Once a cheater, always a cheater. [10:04:00] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dfaef138ee14d6ee] has joined #code4lib [10:04:04] lbjay | @foaf based_near lbjay [10:04:05] zoia | lbjay: I didn't know based_near's URI anyway. [10:04:07] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has quit (Connection reset by peer) [10:04:11] anarchivist | akorphan: for cheap beer, it's actually delicious [10:04:13] skoczko | embrace the change! [10:04:17] anarchivist | "delicious" [10:04:18] ---| ---> abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:04:21] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:04:29] lbjay | lbjay: rtfm [10:04:30] ---| <<-- cordmata [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1ca96b648849df02] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:04:35] akorphan | anarchivist: I'm a sucker for Yuengling when it comes to cheap. [10:04:36] lbjay | @foaf lbjay based_near [10:04:38] zoia | lbjay: lbjay : cwQaxxQq798 [10:04:47] timmcgeary | yuengling++ [10:04:47] ecorrado | timer.app++ [10:04:50] MikeTaylor | It would be neat if all of us on this channel all did a cup+fork simultaneously. It would confuse the heck out of everyone else and demonstrate the power of, oh I don't know, crowdfrlashactmobsourcing or something. [10:04:57] lbjay | @foaf anarchivist based_near [10:04:58] zoia | lbjay: anarchivist : cwQaxxQq804 [10:04:59] edsu | lbjay: is there a patch i need toapply from you? [10:05:07] lbjay | edsu: still working on it [10:05:10] edsu | k [10:05:17] edsu | sorry about the IO, btw [10:05:24] fak3r | huh? [10:05:30] lbjay | edsu: my sparql was fuql'ed [10:05:31] timmcgeary | synchronous cup+fork++ [10:05:48] ejk | ricekrispiestreats++ [10:06:00] lbjay | edsu: no worries. just remarking on it. [10:06:02] BillDueber | ejk: Where????? [10:06:05] ---| ---> mib_4ketyhi4 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7a1d1d74df818a62] has joined #code4lib [10:06:06] timmcgeary | there are rice krispie treats???? [10:06:16] anarchivist | timmcgeary: where breakfast was [10:06:25] akorphan | ooh [10:06:28] akorphan | hum de hum... [10:06:30] timmcgeary | anarchivist: thanks [10:06:42] fak3r | rice krispies? [10:06:42] edsu | lbjay: oh, a query was spiking the IO? i thought it was the syncing [10:07:04] fak3r | wikipedia definition, why not use freebase? [10:07:04] gsf | MikeTaylor: we would need to sync swatches [10:07:25] anarchivist | @quote add less semantic, more web [10:07:29] rsinger | my_macbooks_battery_life-- [10:07:29] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1720 added. [10:07:46] lbjay | edsu: nono. sthe sparql was a diff issue [10:07:57] lbjay | wireless-- [10:07:57] jfereira | powerstrips++ [10:08:00] fak3r | opac mention [10:08:22] rjw | nice_front_page++ [10:08:22] khatar | in fact i hope web will die: i don't carre about webpage design: i want information (with my own render if possible) [10:08:32] anarchivist | swedes++ [10:08:35] * BillDueber is still waiting waiting waiting for the bit about the linked data. [10:08:42] fak3r | color_palatte++ [10:08:58] kgs | think over break I may move tripod directly behind one of the projectors so slide recording isn't canted [10:09:05] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-250ecac2f1e91bd7] has joined #code4lib [10:09:08] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:09:09] ---| ---> kevin7kal_ [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:09:11] BillDueber | khatar: Most people that think they can design a system for their own use better than a professional designer are wrong. [10:09:20] timmcgeary | nice concept [10:09:23] lbjay | kgs: need any help? [10:09:36] ---| ---> iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0f1befb2b578768f] has joined #code4lib [10:09:38] MikeTaylor | BillDueber: Most people that think they can design a system for their own use cheaper than a professional designer are right. [10:09:49] edsu | anders++ # nice quote that [10:09:54] ksclarke_web | nice quote [10:09:58] wickr | both options would be nice [10:10:03] timmcgeary | very nice quote [10:10:07] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [10:10:13] * ecorrado can design system fr own use just fine, for everyones use, maybe not so much [10:10:16] jfereira | The web is made of people [10:10:21] khatar | BillDueber, i don't want to design a tool: i want to use a tool i can parameter to render the information *my way* [10:10:22] BillDueber | MikeTaylor: depends on how much time you lose making and fighting with your system [10:10:24] ---| <<-- Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-42c7c461431202c7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:10:29] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-915a719647ba964d] has joined #code4lib [10:10:37] rosy1280_ | ecorrado++ [10:10:51] fak3r | in this country a catalog can grow up and be anything they want [10:10:53] kgs | lbjay on break help me assert eminent domain ;) I actually think the tripod can be a little lower if it's that near [10:10:54] ejlynema | c4lj plug: the nat'l library of sweden folks just put out a c4lj article about the agile, user-centered design process they used when re-writing LIBRIS. [10:10:54] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-475ac79e2b0c78fe] has joined #code4lib [10:10:57] MikeTaylor | How come we can't send coffee over the wireless network yet? [10:11:01] akorphan | jfereira: Soylent Web? [10:11:07] ecorrado | coffee++ [10:11:14] anarchivist | J2ME? [10:11:17] mbklein | OK, people. Just one more @foaf function, because I'm insane this morning. [10:11:20] jbrinley | BillDueber++ [10:11:20] jbrinley | as mentioned previously, you often need narrative, or at least context for facts [10:11:20] jbrinley | design can do a lot of that [10:11:25] khatar | i don't want to rewrite a browser: i want a configurable browser that even don't download CSS, logos, banners and other useless stuff [10:11:26] anarchivist | mbklein++ [10:11:29] * dlovins is wondering whether anybody here traveled further than from Sweden [10:11:32] ---| ---> abarrera_ [n=abarrera@vpn1-client-a36.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [10:11:32] mbklein | @predicates mjg_ mbklein [10:11:33] timmcgeary | i'd rather send beer over wireless [10:11:41] rsinger | dlovins: there is an australian [10:11:44] anarchivist | dlovins: there's a guy from australia at the next table over [10:11:45] rsinger | i think [10:11:49] MikeTaylor | BillDueber, you are of course right about the cost of time. But then don't forget that implementing a professional designer's design onto your back-end also takes time. [10:11:51] ejlynema | c4lj plug: the nat'l library of sweden folks just put out a c4lj article about the agile, user-centered design process they used when re-writing LIBRIS. [10:12:01] lbjay | kgs: you want me to lower the tripod? [10:12:01] anarchivist | swedes++ [10:12:04] anarchivist | c4lj++ [10:12:06] khatar | (and sorry but many webmasters aren't' professionnals) [10:12:09] skoczko | funny the wiki does not even mention the REST wich is much more comprehensible definiton of what the Wb really is [10:12:10] chickmarkley | dlovins:is kauai farther [10:12:13] mbklein | @reload FOAF [10:12:16] ---| ---> mib_uf20tei8 [n=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53bebb53407595f7] has joined #code4lib [10:12:19] ---| <<-- abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:12:23] jbrinley | khatar: you want the firefox developer toolbar [10:12:24] lbjay | mbklein: nice, you killed zoia [10:12:25] ---| ---> gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c494dccdee8f12c0] has joined #code4lib [10:12:27] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [10:12:31] JodiS | as ejlynema mentions: read about LIBRIS at http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/561 [10:12:33] mbklein | She was there a minute ago! 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[10:13:24] * ecorrado catalogs library holdings using interpertive dance [10:13:24] kgs | lbjay I can do that :) I'm going to pick up the kitnkaboodle and move it behind the right projector--first ensuring it works well there [10:13:27] timmcgeary | are the presentations being filmed? [10:13:31] mbklein | @predicates mbklein mjg_ [10:13:31] zoia | mbklein: Relationships asserted by mbklein about mjg_: , [10:13:32] skoczko | it looks like everything thing that the Linked Data boils down to is a good, clean RESTful architecture [10:13:34] jrochkind100 | in sweden, catalog hacks YOU. [10:13:44] khatar | jbrinley, i want more. I want toolbar+vimperator+sorta viml langage for mappings+ kinda hypercards+ .... [10:13:44] kgs | timmcgeary only when presenters agree to be filmed [10:13:52] kgs | I think most of them agreed [10:13:55] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has quit (Connection timed out) [10:13:58] BillDueber | skoczko: Clean REST can get in the way of other things, though [10:13:58] dlovins | chickmarkley: quite a bit [10:14:00] timmcgeary | I wonder if I agreed [10:14:00] fak3r | hacker != cracker [10:14:00] khatar | well ... i don't nee a browser but xulrunner could be a base [10:14:01] jrochkind100 | yeah, I think there are definitey parallels between linked data philosophy and REST philosophy. [10:14:01] abarrera | apis_suck++ [10:14:04] timmcgeary | can't remember... :) [10:14:05] lbjay | skoczko: there's these things called vocabularies too [10:14:06] kgs | but we respect requests not to be filmed [10:14:08] dchud | great slide! [10:14:09] ejlynema | JodiS: thanks, trying to get there, but my connection is so terrible [10:14:13] paulalbert | slide title is in poor taste [10:14:15] MikeTaylor | apis_suck-=2 [10:14:25] mjg_ | "the website is the api"++ [10:14:30] JodiS | ejlynema: np, sorry--I'm sucking up network [10:14:31] ---| <<-- mib_uf20tei8 [n=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53bebb53407595f7] has quit (Client Quit) [10:14:35] jbrinley | khatar: you want the firefox developer toolbar [10:14:45] skoczko | bill, could you elaborate? [10:14:50] JodiS | paulalbert: directness works [10:15:00] khatar | jbrinley, no: i want people to know that WWW sux! [10:15:00] ---| ---> mib_x9eiacio [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d09094ca41e6250] has joined #code4lib [10:15:02] edsu | apis_suck++ [10:15:06] akorphan | JodiS: Are you -really- downloading 24? [10:15:07] jbrinley | @predicates jbrinley zoia [10:15:08] lbjay | "the website is the api"++ [10:15:13] JodiS | akorphan-- [10:15:14] ---| <<-- iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0f1befb2b578768f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:15:15] zoia | jbrinley: Relationships asserted by jbrinley about zoia: [10:15:19] ---| ---> agd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6d78c6e7ed066a3] has joined #code4lib [10:15:26] BillDueber | skoczko: Think of a catalog. A nice clean URL for an individual record doesn't allow passing any state information (about the search that got you there) in the URL [10:15:36] JodiS | akorphan: no, only every interesting webpage that gets mentioned [10:15:36] khatar | web is an api ? in java sense, yes [10:15:38] JodiS | multithreading++ [10:15:43] BillDueber | skoczko: So, you put it in a session. Which is fine until your user opens a second tab and starts searching there, too. [10:15:45] ---| ---> mib_ja5fl1rs [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1b6e157073cfbd1] has joined #code4lib [10:15:47] khatar | moving ... unreadable ... [10:15:47] ---| <<-- mib_x9eiacio [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d09094ca41e6250] has quit (Client Quit) [10:15:49] anarchivist | multithreading++ [10:15:50] ---| <--- mib_ja5fl1rs [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1b6e157073cfbd1] has left #code4lib () [10:15:51] khatar | changing ... [10:15:56] * jbrinley wonders if making our normal IRC clients work (rather than everyone using mibbit) would help with network congestion [10:16:00] edsu | khatar: there are http clients for other languages than java :) [10:16:10] ---| ---> mib_4ketyhi4 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d96c8861232fab7] has joined #code4lib [10:16:12] mjg_ | charper++ [10:16:13] anarchivist | charper++ [10:16:14] akorphan | web_as_api++ [10:16:23] timmcgeary | 24++ [10:16:23] Kerwick | jbrinley++ [10:16:25] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fbc7efe59d8a7607] has joined #code4lib [10:16:31] rosy1280_ | jbrinkley able to connect to my vpn and then get on an irc client [10:16:39] khatar | edsu, yep ... that was a way for me to say "web is an api"-- [10:16:43] ---| ---> mib_fm3i56vf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7694fb2e9d3742f8] has joined #code4lib [10:16:50] anarchivist | robcaSSon: the naragansett's revenge [10:16:56] ---| ---> danwho [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aaa849bf0254059b] has joined #code4lib [10:17:01] bess | BillDueber: http://blacklight.betech.virginia.edu/catalog/u685409?index=1&per_page=10&q=libraries <== a nice clean URL for an individual record that does allow passing of state information about the search that got you there. [10:17:03] skoczko | Not true, you can encode your search in the URL, it's not against RS principles it simply means that you link to "result set" resource [10:17:05] ---| <--- danwho [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aaa849bf0254059b] has left #code4lib () [10:17:05] khatar | (an api don't change every week ... but in java) [10:17:09] robcaSSon | anarchivist: fricking goats [10:17:13] fak3r | I'm lagging big time [10:17:21] anarchivist | robcaSSon: goats on the roof of the warwick bar [10:17:23] ---| ---> dsuchy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33171a7ecf42d2d4] has joined #code4lib [10:17:28] fak3r | I've setup a local IRC server: connect to 10.7.55.119 [10:17:35] MikeTaylor | On the horribleness of RDF: does anyone know whether there is a widespread and universally understood representation of RDF graphs other than the super-horrible XML version? I think that would help a lot. [10:17:36] anarchivist | passing_state_in_urls-- [10:17:37] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [10:17:42] akorphan | anarchivist: you went drinking in warwick, of all places? [10:17:46] anarchivist | akorphan: no [10:17:47] BillDueber | bess: It's "clean", but you end up with an infinite number of URLs that all point to the same thing. [10:18:04] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:18:06] mjg_ | glass_clinking_in_the_hallway-- [10:18:09] mbklein | BillDueber: Which is where rel="canonical" comes in. [10:18:12] akorphan | anarchivist: whew. [10:18:16] BigD | i h8s the internets [10:18:23] ---| <--- gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c494dccdee8f12c0] has left #code4lib () [10:18:27] anarchivist | akorphan: the cans of naragansett that robcaSSon & i and others had had this story about some bar in warwick and people putting goats on the roof [10:18:28] mbklein | mjg_: It does kinda sound like a 1903s cocktail party out there. [10:18:34] anarchivist | BigD: h8 u [10:18:35] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Future Archives (Bodleian Library): Odds and ends from day one of the digital lives conference || del.icio.us: Genealogy of Charles Darwin - Freebase || Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data : , [10:19:34] charper | n3++ [10:19:37] mbklein | @foaf zoia interest [10:19:38] anarchivist | n3++ [10:19:39] zoia | mbklein: zoia : , [10:19:41] MikeTaylor | The heading is the only bit I could read from back here., [10:19:43] BigD | real RDF is always unreadable on a screen [10:19:47] anarchivist | @foaf anarchivist interest [10:19:48] zoia | anarchivist: anarchivist : , , , , , , , , (1 more message) [10:19:57] robcaSSon | mjg_+- [10:20:01] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d6a9b36d0aa9f616] has joined #code4lib [10:20:01] gsf | fak3r: port 6667? [10:20:01] edsu | MikeTaylor: ok [10:20:11] BigD | cake's done [10:20:12] timmcgeary | that was a weak bell [10:20:14] fak3r | gsf: should be default... [10:20:15] ---| <<-- g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cce396a9a6b1b09f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:20:20] mjg_ | MORE COWBELL [10:20:26] BigD | should we play the crickets? [10:20:27] lbjay | I SAID DING! [10:20:28] akorphan | MORE CUPFORK [10:20:38] timmcgeary | mjg++ [10:20:39] JodiS | no plug for c4l article :( [10:20:41] fak3r | yes, 6667 port [10:20:44] gsf | fak3r: got a 400 bad request [10:20:52] akorphan | ejlynema++ [10:20:53] mbklein | @quote add I SAID DING! [10:20:54] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Quote #1721 added. [10:20:54] ecorrado | we need a big huge gong [10:20:57] ---| <<-- mhs_uva [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f763eea60ffc6238] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:21:11] anarchivist | s/gong/bong [10:21:12] BigD | ecorrado: gong or bong? [10:21:12] ---| <<-- abarrera_ [n=abarrera@vpn1-client-a36.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [10:21:15] ---| <<-- mib_fm3i56vf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7694fb2e9d3742f8] has quit (Client Quit) [10:21:15] ---| <<-- mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f063bba81d1eddb8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:21:16] JodiS | jrochkind: is their blog in the planet? [10:21:16] BillDueber | ecorrado: And Nipsy Russel to hit it. [10:21:17] timmcgeary | synch cup+fork? [10:21:22] BigD | c4l2010Amsterdam! [10:21:27] anarchivist | nipsey++ [10:21:28] JodiS | jrockind: http://blog.libris.kb.se/semweb/ [10:21:30] ecorrado | BigD: I'm not Michael Phelps [10:21:32] mbklein | JodiS: There was a request-to-add yesterday [10:21:36] mjg_ | Anders' accent makes me think he can kill a man in under four seconds. [10:21:36] miker_ | ^G [10:21:37] paulalbert | [10:21:38] abarrera | BigD++ [10:21:46] JodiS | great talk! [10:21:48] ---| <<-- abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [10:21:53] ---| ---> LibraryThingTim [n=Abby@170.sub-75-223-202.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [10:21:58] JodiS | mbklein: yup, that was me :) [10:21:59] mbklein | ecorrado: Which means you don't have a big fat endorsement contract to lose. Hit it! [10:22:04] akorphan | ibahn-- [10:22:10] mbklein | JodiS++ PERSISTENCE!!!! [10:22:11] ecorrado | mbklein: true [10:22:15] ecorrado | coffee++ [10:22:17] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d6a9b36d0aa9f616] has quit (Client Quit) [10:22:19] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-250ecac2f1e91bd7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:22:20] gsf | ibahn: open 6667! [10:22:26] ---| <<-- ethomsen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c922160f0bdb49b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:22:29] anarchivist | robcaSSon: where are you sitting [10:22:31] JodiS | MikeTaylor: n3 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notation3 [10:22:31] BigD | free irc! [10:22:33] khatar | miker_, mike [10:22:34] mjg_ | iBahn: the inverse autobahn of slowness. [10:22:36] fak3r | not sure - I ws able to login...standby [10:22:46] khatar | ICQ [10:23:12] akorphan | iBahn is perpendicular to the autobahn on the imaginary axis. [10:23:13] gsf | mjg++ [10:23:16] khatar | how to find mike ? [10:23:18] ---| ---> emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:23:32] jbrinley | hmm, vpn doesn't help me [10:23:49] pmurray | @foaf pmurray [10:23:50] zoia | pmurray: (foaf ) -- Returns the objects of the given predicate in the given nick's FOAF. [10:23:55] miker_ | khatar: front left of the room [10:24:00] pmurray | @foaf pmurray homepage [10:24:01] zoia | pmurray: I don't know pmurray's URI. [10:24:16] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dfaef138ee14d6ee] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:24:25] mjg_ | I wonder if they have bacon out there. [10:24:29] akorphan | bacon++ [10:24:37] wickr | mjg_: sorry [10:25:11] dsuchy | did someone say bacon? [10:25:22] akorphan | There's only one thing that smells like bacon, and that's bacon! [10:25:41] mbklein | ibahn is transparently proxying high ports. Clients THINK they can connect, but then get bad data when they try to log into Freenode. [10:25:50] * mbklein blows the smoke off the packet sniffer and puts it away. [10:25:50] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-48538a10abc296d2] has joined #code4lib [10:26:15] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:26:17] ---| <<-- cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-010b76aee8ee72fe] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:26:34] ---| <<-- wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:26:51] robcaSSon | anarchivist: back corner [10:27:20] MikeTaylor | I am scheduled to do a Lightning Talk and would appreciate some feedback on what would be most interesting. I have four candidates that I am considering. [10:27:56] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@static-70-19-124-168.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [10:28:06] akorphan | If 150,000 answers are provided to genderizer per month [10:28:06] akorphan | and there are 4 billion people who have been written about on the internet [10:28:06] akorphan | it'll only take 2,200 years to genderize everyone. [10:28:30] mcdonald | Why is OCLC calling their stuff grid services when you know they will change the name to cloud services any day? [10:29:09] MikeTaylor | One is about pazpar2, an open-source metasearch engine that presents a WS API and is pretty easy to make front-ends for. One is the Torus, a translucent record store which is handy for allowing local autonomy in viewing stores of centrally maintained records. One is on what publishers are actually FOR in this day and age and whether/how they can survive. And one is on why the Brontosaurus skeleton in the YPM is not [10:29:21] MikeTaylor | Anyone have a preference? [10:29:41] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [10:29:55] MikeTaylor | Evidently rsinger doesn't like the sound of any of them. [10:30:18] ---| <<-- dsuchy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33171a7ecf42d2d4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:30:18] ---| <<-- cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9bd7259e7562063e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:30:32] MikeTaylor | Jeez, everyone hates all my talks. [10:30:48] wickr | MikeTaylor: don't take network issues personal [10:31:03] akorphan | and don't bring personal issues to the network? [10:31:07] mcdonald | 1 pazpar2 2 what publishers 3 torus 4 brontosaurus [10:31:13] akorphan | (??) [10:31:16] wickr | MikeTaylor: Torus I haven't heard mentioned at all [10:31:18] ---| <<-- bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-72024b7c49c498a4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:31:18] ---| <<-- dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-915a719647ba964d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:31:20] ejk | Is my nametag sacrosanct or can I write my twitter nic on it? [10:31:24] wickr | so that might be nice to hear about [10:31:27] dhanu | 1 vote for pazpar2 [10:31:28] wickr | ejk: go for it [10:31:41] MikeTaylor | Torus has never been mentioned before. So far we've just been using it internally, but it has wider applicability. [10:31:43] mcdonald | at all real unconferences people put their twitter nic on their tag [10:32:07] jbrinley | ejk: it is your nametag, do what you will [10:32:18] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fbc7efe59d8a7607] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:32:18] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6a5f2a5914373162] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:32:19] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-48538a10abc296d2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:32:50] ejk | done, thanks [10:33:10] skoczko | well we have mentioned the Torus on ALA [10:33:29] skoczko | only few librarian ladies were there though :) [10:33:37] akorphan | ejk: except, it'll explode if you do that. [10:34:06] ejk | akorphan: oh frak! [10:34:29] * jbrinley stands back from ejk [10:34:43] fak3r | gsf: can you try 6668? [10:36:32] fak3r | gsf: cancel that, try 8080 (that should be open across the board here) [10:36:47] MikeTaylor | In tribute to the classic 8-bit chip? [10:36:59] fak3r | I'm running ircd locally, let me know if you can hit it: 10.7.55.119 port 8080 room #code4lib [10:37:14] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d285a49704d5e8b] has joined #code4lib [10:38:11] kgs | miker_ what's your 20 [10:38:50] jbrinley | fak3r: I get "Connection failed. Error: An operation was attempted on something that is not a socket" [10:39:25] miker_ | kgs:frontleft corner table [10:39:28] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4b5956969e991dd6] has joined #code4lib [10:40:17] ---| ---> mib_lgcwm0 [i=896e021b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-25011651faad2280] has joined #code4lib [10:40:34] ---| ---> mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9281a496ef9f9a0] has joined #code4lib [10:40:41] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cd641272e4c3061b] has joined #code4lib [10:40:51] cbeer | fak3r: looks like the same proxy problem as with freenode [10:41:00] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@static-70-19-124-168.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:41:05] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@static-70-19-124-168.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [10:41:11] ---| <<-- rahneej [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0adddf453711d542] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:41:12] timmcgeary | when did ross grow a beard? [10:41:15] kgs | miker_++ # thanks [10:41:26] ---| ---> g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dfb0ec821e2c1ca4] has joined #code4lib [10:41:29] dbs | timmcgeary: it's just glued on with spirit gum [10:41:30] BigD | you call that a beard? [10:41:31] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:41:31] dhanu | font size is too small in the presentation [10:41:33] ---| <--- mib_lgcwm0 [i=896e021b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-25011651faad2280] has left #code4lib () [10:41:34] JodiS | rsinger's slides are really faint. or is it just me? [10:41:37] kat3 | timmcgeary: ten minutes ago [10:41:41] LibraryThingT | faint [10:41:41] kat3 | i like the font [10:41:44] timmcgeary | ok, a justin timberlake "beard" [10:41:46] ecorrado | timmcgeary: he lives in the mountains of TN, he has to have a bear. It is a requirement [10:41:51] ecorrado | beard [10:41:53] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1f07eb53adf85841] has joined #code4lib [10:41:56] BigD | green on green [10:41:58] emcrens | The font may be nice... but we're in the back! lol [10:42:11] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d3f80127692dd2db] has joined #code4lib [10:42:12] dchud | big fonts! high contrast! [10:42:13] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f46f1096363340df] has joined #code4lib [10:42:16] JodiS | MikeTaylor: I'd lie to hear about publishers [10:42:19] timmcgeary | too many TLAs [10:42:20] LibraryThingT | Acronym hell: "DLF ILS-DI API" [10:42:20] ---| <<-- ksclarke_web [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6393c6b4f851a4ed] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:42:27] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ff9266d6415e7234] has joined #code4lib [10:42:35] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1abfffa618aac25f] has joined #code4lib [10:42:35] timmcgeary | ecorrado++ [10:42:35] ---| ---> taco [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-659a7f0045cfa6b9] has joined #code4lib [10:42:36] mbklein | @ana dlf ils di api [10:42:37] zoia | mbklein: Did if a spill [10:42:42] akorphan | TDM-TLA-- [10:42:47] ---| <<-- taco [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-659a7f0045cfa6b9] has quit (Client Quit) [10:42:48] kat3 | ecorrado: you're required to have a beard in TN too [10:42:50] emcrens | Does anyone know if these presentations are going to be made available for download? [10:42:51] kat3 | *bear [10:42:55] Kerwick | TLA-- FLEA-- [10:42:55] jrochkind100 | ross++ for speaking engagingly [10:42:57] ---| ---> taco [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8cf5e3681daa225] has joined #code4lib [10:43:06] * lbjay moves his knight to E3 on rsinger's sweater [10:43:06] akorphan | taco-cat ++ [10:43:11] jbrinley | emcrens: eventually linked from the conference page [10:43:12] LibraryThingT | Taco: I love you. [10:43:13] gsf | jrochkind100: he was a theatre major, you know [10:43:15] dchud | emcrens: over time people will probably link their slides from the schedule page at code4lib.org [10:43:15] mbklein | jbrinley: I signed us up for a lightning talk on zoia's knew FOAF capabilities. You have been warned. [10:43:17] emcrens | kk. Thanks [10:43:18] BigD | lbjay: check [10:43:20] JodiS | emcrends: they should get linked from http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [10:43:23] timmcgeary | kat3: are bears required to have beards? [10:43:27] skoczko | Go AtomPub! [10:43:29] ---| <<-- cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d3f80127692dd2db] has quit (Client Quit) [10:43:30] jbrinley | mbklein++ [10:43:32] mbklein | gsf: I was a musical theatre major. Should I sing my lightning talk? [10:43:34] ---| ---> dansuchy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c898b6c63ff387d2] has joined #code4lib [10:43:37] kat3 | timmcgeary: yes, they use rogaine [10:43:39] lbjay | mbklein: YES [10:43:40] * ecorrado wants to take an acting class.... I think it will help public speaking [10:43:41] JodiS | mbklein: the "knew" capabilities :) [10:43:46] gsf | mbklein: you have to ask? [10:43:47] timmcgeary | enthusiasm++ [10:43:48] JodiS | ecorrado: join toastmasters. more direct [10:43:48] ---| ---> phil___ [n=phil@chavez.cryer.us] has joined #code4lib [10:43:51] mbklein | JodiS-- boo [10:43:52] jbrinley | mbklein: you want to talk while I provide the visuals? [10:43:53] Kerwick | tmmcgeary: unless they are bear naked [10:43:58] ecorrado | gray_font-- [10:44:00] dansuchy | somebody got my bacon hopes up. now im crushed. [10:44:01] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-207328b35bca9dee] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:44:02] jbrinley | mbklein: you probably know a lot more about it than me at this point [10:44:08] ---| User: *** phil___ is now known as fak3r [10:44:11] timmcgeary | Kerwick++ [10:44:13] JodiS | AtomPub is another way of looking "one context up". REALLY like that design metaphor, from anders [10:44:14] mbklein | jbrinley: Sure. We can script it a little bit later on. [10:44:14] anarchivist | bears++ [10:44:16] BigD | dansuchy: you made it! [10:44:27] lbjay | @sing DLF-ILS : API [10:44:29] edsu | mjgiarlo: might not need those slides now :) [10:44:33] zoia | lbjay: No lyrics for API by DLF-ILS. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [10:44:35] ---| ---> was [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d36bd60876eeb866] has joined #code4lib [10:44:36] mbklein | We need a @bacon that works like @bartender [10:45:01] ---| ---> mib_oioo7vgg [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5bf51cbf2b17ae7d] has joined #code4lib [10:45:09] mbklein | @bartender [10:45:12] * zoia fills a pint glass with Boon Framboise, and sends it sliding down the bar to mbklein (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/47/2427/) [10:45:16] * kat3 joy spasm at the sight of wordpress/drupal/atompub on one slide [10:45:20] mbklein | Ew. Fruity beer. [10:45:22] mbklein | zoia-- [10:45:25] MikeTaylor | Bears are scary. At the YPM yesterday I walked past the museum boardroom and the door happened to be open, in there I saw a stuffed bear, in a rearing position, and I swear that baby was nine feet tall. It must be a truly terrifying place to have budget meetings. [10:45:26] anarchivist | kat3++ [10:45:30] anarchivist | drupal++ [10:45:31] dchud | joyspasm4lib [10:45:33] akorphan | lambic++ [10:45:40] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@static-70-19-124-168.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit (Client Quit) [10:45:54] ---| ---> jdatema [n=jdatema@static-70-19-124-168.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [10:45:54] taco | drupal++ ++ [10:45:56] timmcgeary | lambic++ (so my wife will drink beer with me) [10:46:02] jfereira | belgian beer++ [10:46:14] MikeTaylor | For those of you preparing talks: will you PLEASE use bigger fonts than the presenters so far have used. [10:46:17] mbklein | @known rsinger [10:46:18] zoia | mbklein: I don't know rsinger's URI [10:46:28] fak3r | *bold text* [10:46:32] akorphan | good_seats++ [10:46:35] dhanu | and high contrast colours [10:46:40] Kerwick | opera glasses++ [10:46:51] kat3 | what was the third item? [10:47:04] anarchivist | kat3: actors [10:47:08] jfereira | black font, yellow bg, for mine [10:47:11] gsf | fak3r: still no luck at 8080 [10:47:12] BigD | kat3: fire [10:47:14] mbklein | @know rsinger http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/about-me/#me [10:47:15] zoia | mbklein: rsinger's URI is now [10:47:20] JodiS | MikeTaylor: next time take a picture! [10:47:20] BigD | i am the Fifth Element [10:47:21] ---| <<-- was [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d36bd60876eeb866] has quit (Client Quit) [10:47:24] mbklein | @knows mbklein rsinger [10:47:26] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [10:47:28] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Future Archives (Bodleian Library): Shoot those files! [10:47:33] dchud | royt: maybe you could encourage big fonts and high contrast color schemes to future speakers? [10:47:42] kat3 | anarchivist: thanks [10:47:43] JodiS | mbklein: can you talk about plugin-writing in general in your talk? (Or maybe somebody else can do that one?) [10:47:53] kat3 | you too BigD [10:47:55] mbklein | @knows mbklein rsinger [10:47:58] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [10:48:01] * ecorrado looks at his slides and sees 28pt font [10:48:07] timmcgeary | minimum font point size recommendation? I'll edit my slides for tomorrow [10:48:13] jfereira | there's your color contrast [10:48:19] mbklein | Oh, it's the RDFa thing again. Please hold. [10:48:23] dhanu | cant read the green box [10:48:28] akorphan | dark_blue_on_black-- [10:48:37] fak3r | gsf: sorry, not sure what's u, nmap doesn't show the port open, so that explains it, but don't see why [10:48:42] jbrinley | JodiS: it's a lightning talk, probably not much time to spend on preliminaries [10:48:45] mbklein | Yeah, *this* is what's hard to read. :) [10:48:48] akorphan | json_bracket_headache-- [10:48:50] BigD | too bad you guys are sitting in the back [10:48:55] BigD | these slide are AWESOME [10:48:58] JodiS | jbrinley: ok, but I want *SOMEBODY* to talk about plugin writing [10:49:06] * jtgorman sighs [10:49:11] emcrens | Bah... underachievers always sit in the back... lol [10:49:12] JodiS | ditto on wanting font recs [10:49:15] jrochkind100 | just generic 'plugin writing'? That's like having a talk about programming. [10:49:20] fak3r | gsf: will try again in a bit, for now SSH -> home server and irssi from there is working better than mibbit [10:49:22] ---| <<-- ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34adcc36e5f41a59] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:49:28] BigD | i got in here at 4:30 am [10:49:29] jtgorman | part of the training for one of our things is supposed to be that it will be down early morning, just like the rest of our system... [10:49:34] jtgorman | :P [10:49:38] BigD | just so i could read these slides from the front [10:49:40] * BLTnoTomato is getting closer and closer to do the Happy Dance as I start putting things in drupal for "testing" :) [10:49:42] cbarr | follow the 10/20/30 rule for ppt presentations: http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2005/12/the_102030_rule.html [10:49:58] JodiS | jrochkind100: there's context of supybot. and context of breaksalot [10:49:58] gsf | fak3r: that's what i'm doing as well [10:49:59] jbrinley | JodiS: here's the summary: find a plugin that does something similar to what you want, copy it, and make a few small changes [10:50:00] BigD | what's up with mibbit not showing the server pulldown? [10:50:07] gsf | fabthough there is lag [10:50:07] BigD | trying to get brad into irc [10:50:08] robcaSSon | json++ [10:50:11] jfereira | guykawasaki++ [10:50:19] anarchivist | BigD: uh oh [10:50:24] JodiS | jbrinley: ok, sure, but, pull it down from WHERE? and then share it with WHOM? [10:50:33] * jtgorman should have put the warning on the stupid webapps in the first place regardless of what the managers/etc/other folks thought [10:50:35] Kerwick | BigD: I had to refresh a few times and wait... [10:50:37] * JodiS wants a wiki page if not a talk [10:50:37] lbjay | @dunno add this is probably really hard to read, but 中古漢語 [10:50:38] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #299 added. [10:50:41] BigD | that's aright anarchivist, he'll know you for the buttwad u r [10:50:44] JodiS | looked up at slides, but made my eyes hurt :( [10:50:46] jbrinley | JodiS: http://svn.breaksalot.org/supybot-plugins/plugins/ [10:50:47] cbeer | fak3r: why not an ssh tunnel? [10:50:48] BigD | Kerwick: thanks [10:50:48] anarchivist | BigD++ [10:50:50] ---| <--- jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d1cf43aff1602c1e] has left #code4lib () [10:50:59] jbrinley | JodiS: ask jsf for a password if you want to commit [10:51:07] LibraryThingT | In the future WHOM will be a valid SQL phrase. [10:51:09] jbrinley | JodiS: s/jsf/gsf/ [10:51:13] JodiS | jbrinley: I want EVERYONE to know. [10:51:13] gsf | fak3r: though there is lag [10:51:23] timmcgeary | cheating++ [10:51:24] JodiS | jbrinley: and I've never written a bot plugin, so I haven't got the faintest clue [10:51:32] * ecorrado is using a 20/20/28 rule [10:51:34] dchud | big fonts! color contrast! hide yer toolbars! [10:51:42] JodiS | does white on black work better, do you think? (thinking about slides for tomorrow) [10:51:46] wtd | WHOM and WHENCE. [10:51:47] dansuchy | wait- there are slides? heh [10:51:58] * ecorrado may change that though, since I didn't finish my presentation yet [10:52:04] BigD | one letter per slide [10:52:07] robcaSSon | presenters: but stay in-channel [10:52:08] dchud | LibraryThingTim: in the future HUH will be a valid SQL datatype [10:52:09] kgs | why not WHILST? [10:52:11] ---| <<-- adickmeiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e1c68661349822f0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:52:13] lbjay | BigD++ [10:52:14] Kerwick | JodiS: I tend to go with black text on white background [10:52:19] akorphan | Black on white isn't bad, but stroke width and font size are important. [10:52:23] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d285a49704d5e8b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:52:23] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a10034487a76164f] has joined #code4lib [10:52:32] BigD | akorphan: that's what she said [10:52:35] lbjay | @wordstats add font [10:52:36] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [10:52:37] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [10:52:38] jbrinley | light grey on lighter grey [10:52:39] wtd | Or in programming: whensoever (num > 1) { print "foo" } [10:52:46] LibraryThingT | What does ++ mean in IRC. Is that when we drink? [10:52:50] JodiS | whensoever++ [10:52:56] JodiS | LibraryThingTim: it's karma [10:52:59] JodiS | @karma [10:52:59] wickr | those slashes look nasty [10:53:00] zoia | JodiS: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1051), and "dbs" (855). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-54). You (JodiS) are ranked 26 out of 8139. [10:53:00] timmcgeary | karma [10:53:05] jbrinley | LibraryThingTim: ++ adds to your karma, -- takes it away [10:53:07] jfereira | ++ = CUP+FORK [10:53:12] jbrinley | @karma LibraryThingTim [10:53:12] gsf | JodiS: red text on black background [10:53:12] zoia | jbrinley: LibraryThingTim has neutral karma. [10:53:15] ecorrado | @karma [10:53:16] akorphan | CUPFORK++ [10:53:17] zoia | ecorrado: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1051), and "dbs" (855). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-54). You (ecorrado) are ranked 30 out of 8139. [10:53:18] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: it's worshipping the ghost of vannevar bush [10:53:22] timmcgeary | @karma [10:53:22] gsf | JodiS: metal font [10:53:23] zoia | timmcgeary: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1051), and "dbs" (855). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-54). You (timmcgeary) are ranked 343 out of 8140. [10:53:23] wtd | librarythingtim++ [10:53:25] bess | LibraryThingTim++ # for the book covers! [10:53:33] JodiS | akorphan & Kerwick: thanks, will check the font size etc [10:53:35] ecorrado | @karma ecorrado [10:53:36] zoia | ecorrado: Karma for "ecorrado" has been increased 136 times and decreased 12 times for a total karma of 124. [10:53:37] skoczko | OK, jangle looked fine util I saw different URLs for the same resource with diff representation (marc, mods)_ [10:53:42] wtd | librarythingtim++ # For the OCLC logo [10:53:45] jbrinley | @karma LibraryThing [10:53:45] kgs | LibraryThingTim you can even have a kind of plus-minus +- [10:53:46] zoia | jbrinley: Karma for "LibraryThing" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [10:53:50] abarrera | LibraryThingTim: i prefer it to be when we drink [10:53:53] skoczko | why not simply use the Content-Type header? [10:54:02] MikeTaylor | Can anything be done about zoia? [10:54:11] JodiS | @insult zoia [10:54:12] zoia | zoia: You are nothing but a mangled mound of foul seagull. [10:54:13] anarchivist | kobold_chieftain++ [10:54:13] timmcgeary | @bartender [10:54:17] * zoia fills a pint glass with Redhook IPA, and sends it sliding down the bar to timmcgeary (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1330/70) [10:54:26] skoczko | that;s retarded [10:54:29] lbjay | @eightball can anything be done about you? [10:54:30] zoia | lbjay: No chance. [10:54:33] BillDueber | "just needs search" [10:54:34] timmcgeary | I haven't had Redhook in a long time... nice memories [10:54:35] lbjay | zoia++ [10:54:45] gsf | skoczko: ask that conneg question [10:54:48] robcaSSon | kochief++ [10:54:54] anarchivist | kochief++ [10:54:54] ---| ---> cwulfman [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [10:55:00] LibraryThingT | That's fairly crazy, IMHO. Mechanization of social processes impoverish. But, I should hold off criticism as a newbie. [10:55:22] dbs | kochief? [10:55:22] JodiS | want to share anders' slides with somebody... wish they were up already at http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [10:55:26] bess | rsinger++ [10:55:33] JodiS | dbs: missing your presence [10:55:33] * ecorrado thinks his slides would be great if he uses white on white [10:55:43] JodiS | ecorrado-- [10:55:45] lbjay | JodiS++ # grind us down [10:56:07] BigD | dbs: even I miss you. not much. maybe a little. [10:56:17] akorphan | @karma bacon [10:56:18] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "bacon" has been increased 30 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 27. [10:56:24] dbs | aww, BigD++ JodiS++ [10:56:25] ecorrado | @sing deadmilkman i believe in swordfish [10:56:28] zoia | ecorrado: No songs found by deadmilkman i believe in swordfish [10:56:31] BillDueber | OK. Who the hell decreased karma for bacon????? [10:56:44] kgs | the OPACsphere! [10:56:47] robcaSSon | @ana rsinger is the community [10:56:49] zoia | robcaSSon: Snoutish, meriting mercy [10:56:54] dbs | @sing dead milkmen : i believe in swordfish [10:56:55] ecorrado | @sing deadmilkman [10:56:56] dchud | JodiS: i will mention to Anders... am sitting next to him [10:56:58] zoia | dbs: No lyrics for i believe in swordfish by dead milkmen. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [10:56:58] zoia | ecorrado: No songs found by deadmilkman [10:57:00] JodiS | dchud++ [10:57:02] lbjay | edsu: do you have a google map api key for inkdroid? [10:57:06] jtgorman | maybe some folks think talking about bacon all the time is a boar [10:57:07] miker_ | spherepac? [10:57:10] taco | swordfish = 132112789371289738912 bit encryption [10:57:11] dchud | BillDueber: probably me [10:57:17] ecorrado | @sing the deadmilkman : swordfish [10:57:19] gsf | dbs: kochief [10:57:19] mbklein | faster++ [10:57:22] edsu | lbjay: i don't but i could [10:57:22] kat3 | rsinger: breathe! [10:57:24] ---| <<-- ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a10034487a76164f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:57:28] zoia | ecorrado: No lyrics for swordfish by the deadmilkman. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [10:57:48] ecorrado | @sing the dead milk man [10:57:49] zoia | ecorrado: No songs found by the dead milk man [10:57:59] * ecorrado gives up [10:58:02] ecorrado | zoia-- [10:58:34] dansuchy | i'll give a dollar to anyone who gets up and beatboxes into that mic [10:58:35] mjg_ | @sing the dead milkmen : takin' retards to the zoo [10:58:37] fak3r | what we need is; more TLAs and more standards [10:58:40] zoia | It's a boring day - I've got nothing to do / Except to get a load of retards and drive 'em to the zoo / Oh oh oh takin' retards to the zoo (x2) / Load 'em on a bus just for laughs [10:58:40] dhanu | is it possible for the presenters to mail the slideshow to the mailing list just before the presentation? [10:58:45] miker_ | dbs: janglechief [10:59:02] mbklein | @reload FOAF [10:59:03] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [10:59:05] kat3 | ecorrado: The Dead Milkmen, i think? [10:59:05] MrDys | edge_cases-- [10:59:06] anarchivist | dhanu: not me; my presentation is a 60 MB pdf [10:59:12] mjg_ | zoia++ [10:59:13] dhanu | oops [10:59:15] dhanu | :) [10:59:18] rosy1280_ | lunch++ [10:59:21] mbklein | @knows mbklein rsinger [10:59:24] zoia | mbklein: mbklein knows rsinger, but rsinger does not know mbklein. [10:59:37] mbklein | @list foaf [10:59:38] zoia | mbklein: foaf, forget, know, known, knows, and predicates [10:59:42] ecorrado | @sing the dead milkmen : swordfish [10:59:44] MikeTaylor | Is an API the opposite of an IPA? That would explain why everyone is saying that APIs suck. [10:59:44] zoia | Some people believe in astrology / Others believe in technology / Some people believe in all those "ologies" / But I believe in swordfish [10:59:47] mbklein | @foaf rsinger interest [10:59:50] zoia | mbklein: rsinger : , , , , , [10:59:51] * bess is thinking about a jangle plugin for omeka [10:59:53] jrochkind100 | First we get rid of the edge cases, then we get rid of the users, and everything will be so much simpler. [10:59:56] ---| ---> mib_iv76i6 [i=896e021b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bcdcd8f6be4bb2f1] has joined #code4lib [11:00:09] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1abfffa618aac25f] has quit ("mibbit.com: too laggy") [11:00:11] akorphan | 90-90 rule ftw [11:00:15] anarchivist | ugh, omeka [11:00:17] skoczko | I like both APIs and IPAs [11:00:19] jrochkind100 | I still don't entirely understand what I need to do to create a jangle connector. [11:00:22] escowles | swordfish lyrics: http://leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=Z9L507L9t6U%3D [11:00:23] jrochkind100 | Yes, breakout session. [11:00:24] ecorrado | jangle_breakout++ [11:00:25] ---| <<-- g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dfb0ec821e2c1ca4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:00:29] LibraryThingT | It'd be nice if libraryland had some APIs. Then they could suck. [11:00:29] MikeTaylor | jrochkind100: are you the guy who was trying to find a way to express DC Type in an OpenURL? [11:00:32] anarchivist | BREAKOUT YO JANGLE [11:00:36] kat3 | rsinger++ #awesome awesome! [11:00:38] rjw | angle_breakout++ [11:00:46] JodiS | exactly on time, thanks to rsinger's speedy delivery. rsinger++ [11:00:47] BillDueber | rsinger++ [11:00:48] dhanu | ++ "jangle plugin for omeka" [11:00:53] akorphan | the angle of the jangle is inversely proportional to the ongle of the dongle. [11:01:00] edsu | LibraryThingTim: see also MikeTaylor [11:01:04] anarchivist | puppies++ [11:01:09] JodiS | dhanu: or just post it up on http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule at that time, to save our mailboxes from the overload [11:01:13] timmcgeary | rsinger++ [11:01:14] paulalbert | not ejecting the device properly-- [11:01:18] jbrinley | edsu: any idea why zoia isn't included in the LOD-attendees list? [11:01:18] timmcgeary | jangle_breakout++ [11:01:22] akorphan | paulalbert: that's what she said. [11:01:22] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cfbe9ebe746c8580] has joined #code4lib [11:01:35] abarrera | akorphan++ [11:01:36] fak3r | oh, canada [11:01:44] dhanu | yeap, a link to the slideshow would be better [11:01:48] timmcgeary | akorphan: beat me to it [11:02:06] akorphan | slideshows_on_wiki++ [11:02:10] harmless | @karma canada [11:02:10] zoia | harmless: Karma for "canada" has been increased 7 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 4. [11:02:12] jrochkind100 | miketaylor: yeah, that was me. openurl-- [11:02:13] edsu | jbrinley: does zoia's uri resolve? [11:02:24] paulalbert | akorphan: that [11:02:26] bess | canada++ [11:02:37] ecorrado | canada_geese-- [11:02:38] paulalbert | akorphan: that's what she said montage http://showhype.com/video/every_single_thats_what_she_said_from_the_office/ [11:02:39] dhanu | slideshows_on_wiki b4 the presentation ++ :) [11:02:43] LibraryThingT | APIs++ [11:02:58] miker_ | bess: indeed [11:03:03] akorphan | one_API_to_rule_them_all++ [11:03:05] MikeTaylor | I think OpenURL 0.1 was a fine example of a specification said just enough to be very usefu; and 1.0 is an example of one that says much too much to useful. [11:03:15] bess | are there two break out sessions? [11:03:24] jbrinley | edsu: yes [11:03:24] jbrinley | edsu: http://www.code4lib.org/id/zoia [11:03:29] bess | I mean, two time slots? or only one? [11:03:34] timmcgeary | one today and one tomorrow [11:03:36] jrochkind100 | MikeTaylor: Agreed. Over-abstracted, over-engineered. [11:03:53] timmcgeary | i think just one [11:03:54] MikeTaylor | JR: we should get together and bitch about that later :-) [11:04:00] mbklein | @reload FOAF [11:04:01] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [11:04:02] dchud | JodiS: message sent and received [11:04:02] skoczko | forget Lucene, use zebra :) [11:04:03] dchud | does anyone know whatever might have come out of the work on search metrics at Emory that Aaron Krowne demo'd at c4l '06? [11:04:04] jtgorman | btw, anyone ever use http://www.rockbox.org/ [11:04:04] mbklein | @foaf rsinger interest [11:04:07] zoia | mbklein: rsinger : "library technology", , , , , [11:04:09] JodiS | dchud: thanks! [11:04:09] jbrinley | bess: one today, one tomorrow [11:04:11] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4f7efafdc62cc5e] has joined #code4lib [11:04:17] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:04:22] ---| ---> ksclarke_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e3feb64fffc85890] has joined #code4lib [11:04:26] Kerwick | zebra++ [11:04:29] fak3r | jtgorman: I ran it on my 4th gen iPod (20G) worked great [11:04:35] dlovins | @foaf dlovins [11:04:36] zoia | dlovins: (foaf ) -- Returns the objects of the given predicate in the given nick's FOAF. [11:04:49] dlovins | @foaf dlovins interest [11:04:50] zoia | dlovins: I don't know dlovins's URI. [11:04:50] ---| User: *** ksclarke_ is now known as Guest94832 [11:04:56] ---| ---> scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-892501af20ae529a] has joined #code4lib [11:04:58] ---| ---> rsinger_ [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:05:00] jtgorman | fak3r: cool [11:05:01] ejk | jtgorman: I tried it, but went back to stock ater I couldn't find my podcasts easily [11:05:04] ---| ---> highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e121e0cdac9a4ce3] has joined #code4lib [11:05:12] MikeTaylor | Is there a way to block zoia's messages? (I assume this entity is a bot.) [11:05:14] jtgorman | ejk: how easy is it go to back to stock? [11:05:23] ---| User: *** Guest94832 is now known as _ksclarke [11:05:24] LibraryThingT | one_API_to_rule_them_all-- (OCLC would run it) [11:05:24] LibraryThingT | rsinger: Good talk. [11:05:26] ---| <<-- mcdonald [i=d0365e4e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5509910a9fffabe] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:05:30] timmcgeary | network_buffering-- [11:05:32] fak3r | jtgorman: also ran Linux on the iPod, but didn't performas well [11:05:40] rsinger_ | LibraryThingTim: thanks :) [11:05:44] ejk | pretty sure there's a windows util that GUIfies install and uninstall [11:05:47] jtgorman | ejk: I mean, I've only done a little of firmware tinkering, but I thout it was pretty tricky to reverse... [11:05:51] jtgorman | ejk: nice [11:05:53] wtd | rsinger: Well done. [11:05:54] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:05:56] jbrinley | MikeTaylor: /ignore zoia [11:06:03] jtgorman | oh, LibraryThingTim++ [11:06:08] kgs | rsinger++ [11:06:08] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4f7efafdc62cc5e] has quit (Client Quit) [11:06:09] MikeTaylor | Thanks, jbrinley [11:06:13] jbrinley | MikeTaylor: but you'll be missing out [11:06:14] BigD | mibbit is being a pita [11:06:16] jtgorman | just for wandering in channel ;) [11:06:17] MikeTaylor | :0-) [11:06:27] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7146f3d50cc6c64f] has joined #code4lib [11:06:29] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b61d317b4514609a] has joined #code4lib [11:06:30] jtgorman | BigD: mibbit is pretty much a constant pita [11:06:32] ---| <--- mib_iv76i6 [i=896e021b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bcdcd8f6be4bb2f1] has left #code4lib () [11:06:42] wtd | miketaylor: /ignore zoia all [11:06:52] kgs | BigD chatzilla not working for you? [11:06:52] * scolford thinks zoia should deliver next year's keynote. [11:07:01] LibraryThingT | Who has these schemas with only eight tables? [11:07:01] skoczko | we had XML, JSON now it's time for 3-norm SQL schemas [11:07:08] BigD | i'm fine on pidgin thru work vpn [11:07:10] rsinger_ | panizzi gave a lightning talk at the first c4l [11:07:10] jfereira | passwords_in_the_commandline-- [11:07:13] zoia | panizzi is dead. long live panizzi! [11:07:17] BigD | trying to get bradw on thru mibbit [11:07:20] cbeer | mibbit-- ssh_tunnels++ [11:07:24] mbklein | scolford: Or at least deliver a realtime transcript through @lolz [11:07:41] LibraryThingT | Does LuSQL need to exist? Strikes me as "Systemitis" (Joel on Software). Just code something up. No? [11:07:47] jrochkind100 | so who wants to set up an ssh tunnel that we can all use? [11:07:49] ---| <<-- kevin7kal_ [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:07:59] jrochkind100 | Yeah, I'm having trouble figuring out why I'd need lusql too. [11:08:00] bess | I think lusql is pretty cool, but if one of his selling points is that it's less complex than solr he isn't selling me. [11:08:04] fak3r | -password="LUNCH" [11:08:04] MikeTaylor | Architecture astronautics. [11:08:09] mbklein | bess++ [11:08:24] akorphan | lunch++ [11:08:25] anarchivist | multithreading++ [11:08:26] jrochkind100 | the thing you invent yourself is always easier to use (for YOU) then the thing someone else invented. [11:08:38] MikeTaylor | SO true! [11:08:39] skoczko | cool slide [11:08:42] ecorrado | bacon4lunch++ [11:08:47] LibraryThingT | Which is both good and bad. But either way, meh. [11:08:48] rsinger_ | it seems as though when this has DSLs written for it, it will be.. solr [11:08:49] MikeTaylor | It is the reason that NIH syndrome is not always so dumb. [11:08:51] ---| ---> mmmmmrob [n=mmmmmrob@62.172.77.66] has joined #code4lib [11:08:51] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: I've seen some schemas that were only two or three tables. Granted, they should have been thirty ;) [11:08:57] erikhatcher | bess: his sql stuff is less complex than Solr's DIH.... you just aren't putting relational databases into Solr directly :) [11:08:57] erikhatcher | DIH is a pain [11:09:03] timmcgeary | bess: agreed [11:09:07] jrochkind100 | rsinger_: jangle breakout yes please. [11:09:09] jtgorman | Address1,Address2,Address3 wheeeeee [11:09:18] BigD | hiya mmmmmrob! yer not here, are u? [11:09:23] MikeTaylor | How come SQL is even still on the agenda here in the 21st centurt? [11:09:27] rsinger_ | jrochkind100: so, tomorrow, i guess? [11:09:27] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cfbe9ebe746c8580] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:09:27] ---| <<-- scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-892501af20ae529a] has quit (Client Quit) [11:09:28] erikhatcher | being able to do simple relational -> Solr mapping is the key... without a bunch of ridiculous XML in the way [11:09:34] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-280e7b6475e0e1fc] has joined #code4lib [11:09:41] jrochkind100 | what does 'dsl' stand for anyway? I get what it is,b ut I never heard it before a couple months ago. [11:09:47] mmmmmrob | BigD: nope, couldn't come this year, but rjw will buy you a beer if you tell him I sent you ;-) [11:09:49] bess | rsinger_: jangle breakout session not at the same time as the blacklight breakout session, yes please! [11:09:57] akorphan | MikeTaylor: It works, it's readable, it's in wide use.... [11:10:02] BigD | mmmmmrob: heh, will do ;) [11:10:06] rsinger_ | bess: when is that? [11:10:12] * anarchivist votes for jangle breakout tomorrow [11:10:16] * rjw hides under table [11:10:17] rsinger_ | there are two breakouts proposed already today [11:10:19] highermath | drupal + food tonight? [11:10:22] rsinger_ | although i suppose we don't need a formal "room" [11:10:27] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: because the real world uses relational databases [11:10:27] ---| <<-- mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8565f36c0aecdb7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:10:31] rsinger_ | YOU AND YOUR BOUNDARIES [11:10:35] bess | erikhatcher: did you put the BL breakout down for today or tomorrow? [11:10:42] rjw | informal_room++ [11:10:43] atz | impressive performance... especially considering it's in java [11:10:44] atz | impressive performance... especially considering it's in java [11:10:46] timmcgeary | I think this large room is available for as many small breakouts as needed [11:10:47] LibraryThingT | "How come SQL is even still on the agenda here in the 21st century?" Again, if library systems always had SQL, it could suck. [11:10:48] erikhatcher | lusql++ # slick stuff. i'd want it to send to solr though :) [11:10:50] jfereira | drupal+food++ [11:10:59] BigD | rjw: there's beer under the tables? [11:11:00] MikeTaylor | erikhatcher: yes, but why? For libraries, anyway. I can see why financials and things like that still want RDBMS, but it seems wholly inappropriate model for the kinds of stuff we want to do. [11:11:08] rsinger_ | jrochkind100: domain specific language [11:11:10] robcaSSon | solr++ [11:11:11] ---| <<-- eikeon [n=eikeon@dsl092-168-195.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit () [11:11:12] bess | maybe it would be better to have a jangle b.o. today (the same day as the jangle talk) and a BL b.o. tomorrow (the same day as the BL talk)? [11:11:12] lbjay | google is redirecting me to google.com.au [11:11:15] erikhatcher | bess: tomorrow [11:11:16] ---| ---> mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f53ae83335f25da1] has joined #code4lib [11:11:19] jfereira | not anymore... [11:11:28] ---| <<-- bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b61d317b4514609a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:11:28] rjw | BigD: No - just me hiding ;-) [11:11:32] jbrinley | highermath: drupal+food++ [11:11:37] BigD | welcome bradw! [11:11:37] erikhatcher | atz: ouch. contrary to some beliefs, java ain't slow [11:11:44] bess | erikhatcher++ # awesome [11:11:46] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f46f1096363340df] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:11:49] fak3r | 1.4 > 0.9 [11:11:51] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4b5956969e991dd6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:11:52] BigD | mibbit finally accepted you [11:12:04] akorphan | FRBR = entity-relationship [11:12:07] bess | rsinger_: can we do a jangle b.o. today? please please please? [11:12:15] MikeTaylor | Contrary to erikhatcher, Java is astonishingly slow in terms of startup. It may be fine once it's up and running, but that is only one aspect of performance. [11:12:27] rsinger_ | yeah, we can see if they can accomodate that [11:12:28] ---| <<-- mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9281a496ef9f9a0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:12:43] LibraryThingT | How do I find out karma? [11:12:51] JodiS | @karma LibraryThingTim [11:12:52] mbklein | @karma LibraryThingTim [11:12:52] zoia | JodiS: Karma for "LibraryThingTim" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [11:12:52] jrochkind100 | @karma LibraryThingTim [11:12:53] edsu | MikeTaylor: you think everyone should just understand it, or you question its use still? [11:12:54] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: why? pragmatic. where do you put your metadata? [11:12:54] zoia | mbklein: Karma for "LibraryThingTim" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [11:12:54] bess | LibraryThingTim: @karma [11:12:55] rsinger_ | MikeTaylor: well, but you don't generally use java for CGIs [11:12:56] zoia | jrochkind100: Karma for "LibraryThingTim" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [11:12:56] lbjay | LibraryThingTim: @help karma [11:12:56] fak3r | runningonatinymachine++ [11:12:57] BigD | and now it rejected u [11:12:58] ecorrado | what is a heap? [11:12:59] LibraryThingT | @karma [11:13:00] zoia | LibraryThingTim: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1051), and "dbs" (855). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-54). [11:13:17] ecorrado | top++ [11:13:19] atz | ecorrado: non-contiguous memory blocks [11:13:20] atz | ecorrado: non-contiguous memory blocks [11:13:21] kat3 | eeek [11:13:22] jrochkind100 | ecorrado: just memory size you have allocated to your java app, basically. [11:13:23] Kerwick | ecorrado: That's a loaded question... [11:13:24] fak3r | multiprocs++ [11:13:35] paulalbert | * Note: Solr response time measure under water. [11:13:36] ecorrado | atz++ jrochkind100++ [11:13:39] lbjay | nice [11:13:39] mbklein | Stupid-ass question: Can I run solr queries against a lucene index? [11:13:40] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: solr ain't slow. it's java. it's not best as a command-line tool, granted... jvm's are heavier beasts for sure. [11:13:45] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- # just to knock you down [11:13:50] robcaSSon | atz: are you seeing double posts from yourself in-channel? [11:13:52] edsu | distributed solr :) [11:14:02] bess | mbklein: yes, you can. [11:14:04] robcaSSon | mbklein: i haven't done it, but yes [11:14:07] MikeTaylor | Uh, oh -- now I am confused about which of things I've been whining about I'm being asked to justify. Metadata belongs in databases that know about document-like records, in this day and age. [11:14:15] bess | mbklein: you just have to match your solr schema to your lucene schema [11:14:18] erikhatcher | mbklein: sure... but you have to develop a matching schema.xml [11:14:21] robcaSSon | it's just lucene with extra goodies [11:14:24] mjg_ | LibraryThingTim: @karma thing [11:14:38] kgs | mbklein: the fact you think that's a stupid-ass question reminds me why I love this conference... it represents Hope [11:14:44] JodiS | MikeTaylor: what kind of database knows about document-like records (really just don't know these things) [11:14:44] atz | robcasson: no... i'm on mibbit... don't even have IRC client on [11:14:46] atz | robcasson: no... i'm on mibbit... don't even have IRC client on [11:14:54] JodiS | kgs++ :) [11:14:56] mjg_ | abarrera: a -- from you feels like ten ++s [11:14:57] MikeTaylor | On Java performance, I tried using the Eclipse IDE and it ran like a dog. I asked jscokso what was going wrong, and he said there was no way it would work properly on a computer with "only" 1Gb RAM. That is just insane. [11:15:04] LibraryThingT | kgs++ [11:15:07] anarchivist | lusql is neat [11:15:10] MikeTaylor | JodiS: Lucene, Zebra? [11:15:13] anarchivist | eclipse is weird [11:15:16] BigD | mjg_++ [11:15:20] mbklein | That makes sense. So one could conceivably take advantage of LuSQL's (reported) low-overhead bulk import capability, and still have all the goodness of solr on the pulling end. [11:15:28] bess | damn... what if you just hooked it up to your ILS's oracle installation? I know that would be pretty hard, but it would also be pretty cool. [11:15:32] mbklein | anarchivist++ true dat [11:15:33] robcaSSon | lusql++ # even if i'd still lean towards solr/DIH [11:15:36] abarrera | mjgiarlo: you love me admit it [11:15:37] ---| ---> charper [n=charper@HARPER.BOBST.NYU.EDU] has joined #code4lib [11:15:39] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: 1GB is indeed insane "in this day and age" [11:15:49] ---| <<-- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has quit ("Lost terminal") [11:15:53] JodiS | MikeTaylor: ok. Could you give a REALLY simple talk about why those understand documents... e.g. moving beyond RDBS? [11:15:55] erikhatcher | robcaSSon: note lusql's SolrJ writer [11:15:56] dchud | kgs: are you sure it doesn't just represent Curiosity? [11:16:00] anarchivist | robcaSSon: DIH makes baby cry [11:16:02] mjg_ | abarrera: I'm just glad I no longer have the burden of being atop the crap pile. [11:16:06] harmless | why isn't there some modular platform for indexing where all the pieces can be swapped about? import, indexer, crawler, rdbms, etc. [11:16:09] MikeTaylor | JodiS, interesting idea. [11:16:14] fak3r | JodiS: Htable sofadb [11:16:14] skoczko | Java may lag for desktop app, there is a certain start-ip overhead for the jvm but it's nearly C speed for services [11:16:18] JodiS | harmless: interesting! [11:16:25] JodiS | @ana htable sofadb [11:16:28] zoia | JodiS: Fatheads blob [11:16:29] * robcaSSon puts baby in a corner [11:16:32] rsinger_ | couchdb [11:16:34] * dbs can hear miker_ silently screaming about PostgreSQL FTS [11:16:34] rsinger_ | not sofa [11:16:34] abarrera | mjgiarlo: umm it is better to be atop a crap pile then under it [11:16:39] erikhatcher | DIH sucks in lots of ways, sadly [11:16:46] anarchivist | mjg_ is sofa king ... [11:16:48] rsinger_ | @canuck CouchDB from Apache [11:16:48] zoia | rsinger_: CoachDB from Apawchee, eh? [11:16:49] mbklein | jruby has made me happier than any language platform in a long time. [11:16:50] JodiS | MikeTaylor: I think you understand a LOT of things that most of us don't. [11:16:54] robcaSSon | erikhatcher: i haven't used it. [11:16:55] fak3r | rsinger_: ha, right [11:16:58] mjg_ | "wee todd ed" [11:16:59] edsu | MikeTaylor: i take it you don't like frbr much then ;-) [11:17:00] atz | is everybody seeing double posts from me? [11:17:01] atz | is everybody seeing double posts from me? [11:17:03] anarchivist | @canuck [zen] [11:17:03] MikeTaylor | harmless, we are making such a modular platform. We have most of the pieces, though not all are released yet. The Torus is part of that. (Use=Index Data) [11:17:05] zoia | Yasutani Roshi: The fundamental delusion of humanity is to suppose that I am here and you are oat there., eh? [11:17:07] anarchivist | atz: yes [11:17:08] rsinger_ | atz: yes [11:17:08] mbklein | atz: yes [11:17:09] jrochkind100 | mbklein: were you a java developer first? [11:17:09] JodiS | atz: yes [11:17:10] mbklein | atz: yes [11:17:12] kgs | atz yes yes [11:17:20] robcaSSon | yes [11:17:20] akorphan | atz: yes [11:17:21] akorphan | atz: yes [11:17:23] robcaSSon | yes [11:17:23] fak3r | we need more slides to look at [11:17:28] fak3r | yes [11:17:33] ---| ---> scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ffc19493f93ae963] has joined #code4lib [11:17:34] MikeTaylor | JodiS: that is a VERY gracious way of saying "I think you're talking a bunch of crap", thank you! :-) [11:17:35] BigD | no [11:17:42] ---| <<-- atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7146f3d50cc6c64f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:17:54] JodiS | MikeTaylor: I swear it's not. (I'm not shy about saying that either) [11:17:55] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: but i don't run Eclipse... I use IntelliJ, still would choke on 1GB RAM though, as would most anything with any seriousness like that [11:17:57] anarchivist | hmm, hmm, hmm [11:18:08] JodiS | MikeTaylor: you deal with the technical nuts and bolts, a lot further down that most of us [11:18:12] anarchivist | this might make indexing our oracle tables awesme [11:18:16] rsinger_ | netbeans is ok in 1GB of ram [11:18:18] mjg_ | c'mon solr people [11:18:19] fak3r | should have centered the email address [11:18:20] mbklein | jrochkind100: No. But jruby does the ruby stuff like I expect it to, and the java stuff like I expect it to, and there's nothing stupid in the middle like with other hybrids. And it lets me call Saxon natively from Ruby, which makes me want to sacrifice a goat in thanks. [11:18:22] mjg_ | go ask a damn question. [11:18:23] JodiS | MikeTaylor: though, I'm not sure I'd KNOW if you WERE talking a bunch of crap :) [11:18:24] rsinger_ | depending on what you want to do [11:18:26] fak3r | opps [11:18:27] BigD | MikeTaylor: there's not a lot of "shy" in here [11:18:29] skoczko | I use Netbeans on 1gb laptop works like a charm [11:18:30] ---| <<-- dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1f07eb53adf85841] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:18:33] jfereira | I run Eclipse on my laptop with 1GB plus lots of other apps without any trouble [11:18:36] skoczko | ubuntu machine [11:18:45] ---| ---> iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7c67498740cc5efe] has joined #code4lib [11:18:47] harmless | MikeTaylor: are you working with the lucene/solr folk so that everyone winds up on the same page? if everyone has there own standard, there aren't any standards :) [11:18:59] mjg_ | abarrera: I wish to be out of the pile altogether. [11:19:02] skoczko | Mike: maybe you Eclipse IDE version was written in Perl [11:19:06] fak3r | distsolr++ [11:19:10] skoczko | ? [11:19:16] LibraryThingT | @karma [11:19:18] zoia | LibraryThingTim: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1050), and "dbs" (855). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-54). [11:19:18] abarrera | mjg_: then why do you work for the government [11:19:22] anarchivist | erikhatcher++ [11:19:23] skoczko | MikeTaylor is a big Perl fan [11:19:40] fak3r | plug [11:19:41] MikeTaylor | harmelss, we have a slightly complex attitude to Lucene, because of course we make Zebra which is in some way a competitor with it. (Except in the sense that they have about 100 times as many users as we do.) [11:19:48] mjg_ | abarrera: I can afford more bacon working for them. [11:19:51] robcaSSon | glen_newton++ [11:19:51] eom | I just googled "performant" to see if it was commonly used, and the top two results are blog posts titled "performant is not a word." [11:19:59] rsinger_ | wayne_newton++ [11:20:01] robcaSSon | indexdata++ [11:20:07] fak3r | eom: nice [11:20:10] mjg_ | fig_newtons++ [11:20:11] robcaSSon | juice_newton-- [11:20:17] robcaSSon | jackasses++ [11:20:26] abarrera | mjg_: yes, government and pork go hand and hand [11:20:28] MikeTaylor | I can't let that go, I am NOT a big Perl fan. I just use it lot because it's so good for getting stuff done, but not even a mother could actually LOVE it. :-) [11:20:28] ---| ---> mib_1t6px3yd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d2cf84786ee331e] has joined #code4lib [11:20:36] mjg_ | abarrera: now you get it! [11:20:38] JodiS | nice post about back-channel and presentations: http://pistachioconsulting.com/twitter-presentations/ (also delicious'd under code4lib) [11:20:38] ---| ---> asl2 [n=asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [11:20:41] fak3r | bash++ [11:20:41] kat3 | glen_newton++ [11:20:42] rsinger_ | @sing juice newton : queen of hearts [11:20:45] zoia | you're just a heartache in disguise; / Won't you keep my heart from breaking / if it's only for a very short time / Playing with the queen of hearts, [11:20:45] abarrera | mjg_: so get me a job [11:20:47] anarchivist | perl-- [11:20:51] LibraryThingT | perl++ [11:20:53] harmless | MikeTaylor: well, the point to having a modular platform is to level the playing field, so that they're all interchangable. so that a solr app can us an index generated by zebra and fed by lusql ... etc. [11:20:54] JodiS | @quote add if everyone has there own standard, there aren't any standards :) [11:20:55] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Quote #1722 added. [11:21:00] mjg_ | JodiS++ # for her unparalleled delicious-fu [11:21:04] BillDueber | perl++ [11:21:04] JodiS | :) [11:21:06] lbjay | @quote search perl [11:21:08] MikeTaylor | Harmless: yes. [11:21:09] zoia | lbjay: 16 found: #102: " random carnage is good, as long as the...", #1062: "< lbjay> Perl hackers don't die; they just get...", #1094: "< edsu> gsf: somewhere there is a perl hacker...", #1195: "< Dueber> perl++ < jtgorma1> perl++ <...", #1401: " is it bad to be installing Perl...", #1449: " i had to scrap it together, so...", #1478: " edsu: some of my best friends are...", #1501: (2 more messages) [11:21:10] anarchivist | perl-- [11:21:20] anarchivist | @quote get 1195 [11:21:21] zoia anarchivist: Quote #1195: "< Dueber> perl++ < jtgorma1> perl++ < jjtuttle_> perl-- < lbjay> perl++ < abarrera> perl-- < royt> perl++ < anarchivist> perl--" (added by gsf at 04:44 PM, February 26, 2008) [11:21:22] ---| User: *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger [11:21:23] ---| ---> mib_vso73lau [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d6332f65f660aee3] has joined #code4lib [11:21:24] robcaSSon | JodiS: were you a victim of the magnolia fiasco? [11:21:25] MikeTaylor | On the other hand, one of my battle-cries is: No More New Standards! We have way too many alreadu. [11:21:26] michaeldb | anarchivist: nothing will ever make indexing our oracle tables awesome. [11:21:27] fak3r | cheeze [11:21:27] michaeldb | :( [11:21:28] ---| ---> rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-959af06370631b32] has joined #code4lib [11:21:28] ---| ---> agd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-076d37c7f8115ff5] has joined #code4lib [11:21:32] lbjay | perl++ [11:21:36] JodiS | robcaSSon: nope, I wasn't hip enough to move there [11:21:37] michaeldb | perl-- [11:21:40] anarchivist | michaeldb: you should take a peek at lusql [11:21:40] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: 100x? ;) [11:21:42] harmless | MikeTaylor: Are there any for this? [11:21:44] edsu | awesome [11:21:44] lbjay | @karma perl [11:21:45] zoia | lbjay: Karma for "perl" has been increased 15 times and decreased 14 times for a total karma of 1. [11:21:46] fak3r | that's phunny [11:21:46] anarchivist | michaeldb: just watched a talk on it [11:21:47] abarrera | @karma abarrera [11:21:48] robcaSSon | JodiS: phew...good [11:21:48] zoia | abarrera: Karma for "abarrera" has been increased 49 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 45. [11:21:50] MrDys | @sing bob marley : jammin [11:21:53] erikhatcher | glen_newton++ [11:21:54] taco | perl++ [11:21:54] zoia | We're jammin / I wanna jam it with you, / We're jammin, jammin / And I hope you like jammin too [11:21:59] anarchivist | michaeldb: http://lab.cisti-icist.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/cistilabswiki/index.php/LuSql [11:22:02] ---| ---> mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83f2502ffb7d8fce] has joined #code4lib [11:22:02] JodiS | robcaSSon: I tried zigtag for awhile, but they were a little too buggy, and the semantic stuff wasn't helping me. may try them again sometime [11:22:04] akorphan | Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia We love you Amen [11:22:08] mjg_ | THE LIGHT [11:22:08] mjg_ | Smoke if ya got 'em. [11:22:09] fak3r | I'm ready for a rest [11:22:09] rosy1280 | accents++ [11:22:11] abarrera | bob_marley++ [11:22:11] bess | australian_accents++ [11:22:16] fak3r | rest++ [11:22:16] MikeTaylor | No, I have no actual numbers on relative deployment of Zebra and Lucene. I was using "100" to mean "a lot". Sorry [11:22:16] ---| <<-- mib_wnb20jqr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83f2502ffb7d8fce] has quit (Client Quit) [11:22:18] JodiS | robcaSSon: the ZIGTAG_IMPORTED_BOOKMARKS (or something like that) show where I imported those [11:22:26] anarchivist | michaeldb: incidentally lee is bugging me about building a web service for bnumber lookups [11:22:30] akorphan | Launch every ZIGTAG [11:22:35] robcaSSon | has the acid i put on the fruit kicked in for anyone yet? [11:22:39] BigD | is there pot under the tables? [11:22:39] MikeTaylor | This here's the wattle, the emblem of our land. [11:22:42] kgs | so far a leading contender for best splash page [11:22:43] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7417dea37c20807c] has joined #code4lib [11:22:43] fak3r | akorphan: for great justice [11:22:47] anarchivist | robcaSSon: acid++ [11:22:51] JodiS | kgs++ [11:22:53] gsf | the australian! [11:22:54] mjg_ | we've already had three interesting accents. [11:22:54] ---| ---> mib_9lugeygu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddd18aee9e9052e8] has joined #code4lib [11:22:56] MikeTaylor | You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand. [11:23:00] abarrera | BigD: only under robcaSSon's table [11:23:04] JodiS | international_code4lib++ [11:23:05] * rsinger sighs. [11:23:08] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-04c94bad86f788f9] has joined #code4lib [11:23:10] akorphan | L'Australian! [11:23:12] jfereira | is that a south african accent? [11:23:13] robcaSSon | abarrera++ # /me chuckles [11:23:15] zoia | true, true [11:23:18] timmcgeary | it is [11:23:21] rsinger | me and my stupid non-accent [11:23:23] eom | screen_contrast++ [11:23:24] harmless | ++-- [11:23:26] edsu | lots of rest this year [11:23:29] skoczko | not SOAP [11:23:35] wtd | rsinger: To me you have a foreign accent. [11:23:36] BigD | i could use some rest [11:23:39] anarchivist | "how not to use SOAP and be a dirty restafarian" [11:23:39] fak3r | down with soap [11:23:40] timmcgeary | rsinger: but you've got a beard [11:23:44] michaeldb | anarchivist: unfortunately the complexity is in the db and not in the language used to query it, so i sort of doubt changing languages is going to solve anything [11:23:44] mjg_ | rsinger: L'town represent. (And you don't even have the philly accent.) [11:23:47] michaeldb | but i'll look [11:23:49] mib_1t6px3yd | RESTafarians don't use soap, mon. [11:23:50] jbrinley | yes, white on black clearly wins [11:23:53] anarchivist | michaeldb: right [11:23:53] edsu | BigD++ [11:23:54] rsinger | wtd++ # that's the spirit [11:23:56] fak3r | businessLogic mention [11:23:56] skoczko | damn, that's like promoting one buzzword because it's against principles of the other [11:23:59] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [11:24:04] ---| ---> jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e5524f865d297b07] has joined #code4lib [11:24:08] bess | soap-- [11:24:08] timmcgeary | mib_1t6px3yd++ [11:24:12] mjg_ | "don't." [11:24:17] BigD | what did he say? [11:24:28] BigD | i can't understand his outRAGEOUS accent [11:24:29] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: may a thousand search engines bloom. of course i'm biased, but that's because i'm a simple man that gets things to work elegantly and easily with Lucene/Solr. but i'm pragmatic and focused on those technologies personally. to each their own, of course. except perl-- ;) [11:24:30] rsinger | sinatra++ [11:24:32] fak3r | white hat? no [11:24:35] rsinger | W00T! [11:24:37] rjw | soap-- [11:24:42] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0330a9a1b0911c39] has joined #code4lib [11:24:44] fak3r | not-- [11:24:51] scolford | @known scolford [11:24:51] zoia | scolford: scolford's URI is [11:24:54] rsinger | btw, Jangle's ruby implementation is in sinatra [11:25:01] timmcgeary | effort-- [11:25:05] harmless | waaaay too many ruby frameworks. i'm so glad merb is going into rails 3. [11:25:09] fak3r | lessEffort++ [11:25:10] ---| ---> mib_bynnpmgz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8b4e455604f53d02] has joined #code4lib [11:25:12] BigD | the best software comes from lazy bastards [11:25:18] bess | rsinger: good to know. I can't wait to take a closer look at it. [11:25:22] akorphan | wiki_lazy_documentation_approach++ [11:25:26] mjg_ | @aussie many of us struggle talk to one another [11:25:26] zoia | mjg_: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! [11:25:28] rsinger | bess: it's pretty awesome [11:25:28] LibraryThingT | Is rest++ controversial anywhere? [11:25:29] ---| ---> abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:25:29] harmless | lazy++ [11:25:30] dansuchy | documentation? never heard of it... [11:25:31] ---| <<-- mib_oioo7vgg [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5bf51cbf2b17ae7d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:25:36] scolford | @known scolford [11:25:37] zoia | scolford: scolford's URI is [11:25:37] Kerwick | BIgD: Why thank you ;-) [11:25:44] ---| <<-- mib_bynnpmgz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8b4e455604f53d02] has quit (Client Quit) [11:25:47] rsinger | bess: in its simplicity [11:25:49] fak3r | sounds a bit personal [11:25:58] ecorrado | @karma rest [11:25:58] rjw | "is PUT" - discuss [11:25:59] zoia | ecorrado: Karma for "rest" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [11:26:00] akorphan | @knows akorphan cazzerson [11:26:00] zoia | akorphan: I don't know cazzerson's URI [11:26:13] mjg_ | BigD: we have an australian translator implemented in zoia. [11:26:24] LibraryThingT | Aaargh. Talking-- [11:26:26] akorphan | Crikey! [11:26:26] ecorrado | talk_talk_talk-- [11:26:29] kgs | royt what's your foaf? [11:26:32] BigD | zoia-- [11:26:32] rsinger | @aussie issues [11:26:32] ecorrado | do_do_do++ [11:26:33] zoia | rsinger: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! [11:26:34] mjg_ | analysis_paralysis-- [11:26:37] jbrinley | @known royt [11:26:37] zoia | jbrinley: royt's URI is [11:26:38] bess | rsinger: jangle breakout today? sorry if you answered that already and I missed it. [11:26:38] mib_9lugeygu | tet [11:26:41] ---| ---> kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8a0b36d38cf73f55] has joined #code4lib [11:26:47] kgs | jbrinley duh. kgs-- [11:26:49] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor++ # for comment on Perl. [11:26:50] skoczko | SOA != SOAP [11:26:52] LibraryThingT | taking it on the chin-- [11:26:56] LibraryThingT | quitting++ [11:26:57] rsinger | bess: we'll need to see if they can accomodate [11:27:13] rjw | older_gentlemen++ [11:27:15] fak3r | you can't stop him quoting - rebel [11:27:20] ---| ---> danbri [n=danbri@s55927ef8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #code4lib [11:27:32] BigD | silver bullets tickle [11:27:35] fak3r | snake oil ca? [11:27:36] erikhatcher | australia++ [11:27:44] escowles | snake_oil++ [11:27:56] ---| ---> mib_bynnpmgz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9387032dfec63028] has joined #code4lib [11:28:07] harmless | australia has a lot of interesting snakes. [11:28:19] highermath | let's leave that slide up for the rest of the day [11:28:23] highermath | oops [11:28:25] MikeTaylor | australia has a lot of interesting spiders. [11:28:28] fak3r | 500 error,d damn [11:28:39] mjg_ | @aussie I would like one order of grilled prawns, good friends! [11:28:39] fak3r | click reload! [11:28:40] zoia | mjg_: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! [11:28:49] mib_1t6px3yd | API suck happens [11:28:52] LibraryThingT | Error pages should have a wiki version of the code. [11:28:54] bess | @cagematch developers vs. sysadmins [11:28:55] zoia | bess: is that some kinda fucked up sparql query? [11:28:56] akorphan | Pe-heps if we'ah quoiet she'll let us get a lit'l CLOISAH.... [11:28:58] rsinger | mjg_++ [11:29:01] MikeTaylor | 500 is the new Segmenation Violation Core Dumped. [11:29:02] fak3r | sysadmins++ [11:29:05] mjg_ | zoia++ [11:29:07] ecorrado | bacon_wrapped_shrimp++ [11:29:16] fak3r | akorphan++ [11:29:17] paulalbert | dingo: don't eat my baby! [11:29:21] LibraryThingT | talking about food when I can't have any-- [11:29:25] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-04c94bad86f788f9] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:29:32] fak3r | extreme mention [11:29:46] ---| <--- mib_9lugeygu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddd18aee9e9052e8] has left #code4lib () [11:29:53] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc0e88ba559c22b4] has joined #code4lib [11:29:58] ---| ---> mib_9lugeygu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddd18aee9e9052e8] has joined #code4lib [11:29:58] BigD | abarrera: don't eat my baby! [11:30:12] timmcgeary | wireless-- [11:30:14] edsu | MikeTaylor++ [11:30:15] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9b8fa2b7263b1038] has joined #code4lib [11:30:21] mib_1t6px3yd | standard suck happens too [11:30:21] LibraryThingT | standards-- [11:30:22] * lbjay is waiting for the stuff that's specific to REST [11:30:22] edsu | @quote add < MikeTaylor> 500 is the new Segmenation Violation Core Dumped. [11:30:23] zoia | edsu: The operation succeeded. Quote #1723 added. [11:30:26] eom | Mind if we call you Bruce, keep things simple? [11:30:29] mjg_ | standards: up yours. [11:30:32] abarrera | BigD: looks like a slab of bacon to me [11:30:32] fak3r | sword mention [11:30:38] ---| <<-- dansuchy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c898b6c63ff387d2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:30:57] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [11:30:58] edsu | awesome :) [11:30:59] * robcaSSon can't focus [11:31:00] BigD | mets profiles = dark path [11:31:08] mjg_ | crap, are people actually going to pay attention to our sword thing? [11:31:09] abarrera | mjg_: did you download the star wars light saber app for your phone? [11:31:27] ---| <<-- jdatema [n=jdatema@static-70-19-124-168.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit ("Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info/") [11:31:29] ---| <<-- mib_9lugeygu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddd18aee9e9052e8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:31:30] MrDys | mjg_: not now that we've been conditioned to hate it [11:31:30] edsu | mjg_: it's valid [11:31:32] MikeTaylor | I really like the honesty of this talk. [11:31:35] mjg_ | abarrera: no, but you're going to lend me your phone because we're such good buddies. [11:31:36] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [11:31:37] skoczko | they started decoupling so much that they ended up with atoms [11:31:44] ---| ---> decasm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-93330e79070649a1] has joined #code4lib [11:31:47] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-987e492ab7f9b7f5] has joined #code4lib [11:31:54] akorphan | dr_device++ [11:32:01] abarrera | mjg_: only if you leave a security deposit....10% of your bacon supply [11:32:04] ---| <<-- scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ffc19493f93ae963] has quit ("mibbit.com: Mibbit lag headache.") [11:32:06] MikeTaylor | It's true that everything is made of atoms, but that fact doesn't mean that all you need is atoms. [11:32:10] mjg_ | australian_restafarian_dude++ [11:32:22] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2bc824472d3ca81d] has joined #code4lib [11:32:25] rsinger | atom++ [11:32:27] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-98f54cb24a4ebafc] has joined #code4lib [11:32:33] ---| <<-- highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e121e0cdac9a4ce3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:32:35] BigD | mjg_ don't eat 10% of my baby! [11:32:35] * timmcgeary thinks of taking out NLA services slide from presentation... [11:33:03] rsinger | invalidation+- [11:33:18] fak3r | sounds like they could have used awk and grep [11:33:26] ecorrado | awk++ [11:33:28] rjw | building_useful_things++ [11:33:34] ---| <<-- cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0330a9a1b0911c39] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:33:35] MikeTaylor | You can ALWAYS use awk and grep. Especially if you also have sed. [11:33:38] jtgorman | although I'm not there and failing to keep up with the chatter, it seems like relational databases could be useful as far as thesaurus type applications....or at least I haven't any other approach to those that seem more efficient than relational databases [11:33:44] timmcgeary | VuFind++ [11:33:46] ---| ---> dansuchy [i=896ec05b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6a84d8a141d6e00] has joined #code4lib [11:33:47] JodiS | VuFind shoutout [11:34:08] MikeTaylor | sed -r rules! [11:34:12] mjg_ | fak3r++ [11:34:15] timmcgeary | sed++ [11:34:19] rsinger | my god, what is that hook thing on that swiss army knife? [11:34:31] jfereira | awk sed the shell [11:34:31] skoczko | it's kinda cool - you get all this monolithic libraries that abstract things so much that you have to wrte your services against them (probably in assembly code) [11:34:33] ---| <<-- dlovins [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33cceb7d4913dab6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:34:34] timmcgeary | rsinger: you don't want to know [11:34:34] ---| <<-- mib_nch3tkl0 [i=46a41956@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77f95c28d8bbee40] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:34:35] akorphan | It's a hook! [11:34:42] robcaSSon | rsinger: it's for making mummies [11:34:43] MikeTaylor | Maybe that is the legedary Thing For Getting Stones Out Of Horse's Hooves [11:34:44] dhanu | skoczko: bottle opener [11:34:46] MikeTaylor | Z39.50++ [11:34:47] jrochkind100 | crochet hook? swiss soldiers do a lot of crocheting. [11:34:47] erikhatcher | JodiS: do we call lucene/solr shoutouts too? :) [11:34:51] abarrera | rsinger: i think i saw that in hostel [11:34:59] rosy1280 | zed++ [11:35:01] lbjay | rsinger: to devein the shript [11:35:06] JodiS | erikhatcher: only if we want to flood the channel! :) [11:35:06] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@216.236.252.231] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [11:35:10] JodiS | lucene++ [11:35:10] JodiS | solr++ [11:35:11] mjg_ | A dental implement? A gentleman does not allow tartar to gather on the teeth in the wild. [11:35:11] lbjay | s/shript/shrimp/ [11:35:12] paulalbert | hook used for trephinations in the wild [11:35:20] erikhatcher | @karma solr [11:35:20] ---| ---> gsf_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1b5b99938ea1b79] has joined #code4lib [11:35:21] zoia | erikhatcher: Karma for "solr" has been increased 63 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 60. [11:35:26] JodiS | @ana A gentleman does not allow tartar to gather on the teeth in the wild. [11:35:26] mjg_ | lbjay++ [11:35:27] zoia | JodiS: Elegant as tolerant old woman [11:35:31] lbjay | @aussie that's not a pocket knife! [11:35:32] zoia | lbjay: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! [11:35:34] ---| <<-- ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9b8fa2b7263b1038] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:35:35] JodiS | zoia++ [11:35:35] ---| <<-- rosy1280_ [n=rosy1280@155.47.17.158] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:35:44] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: you responsible for those decrements? ;) [11:35:47] robcaSSon | lbjay++ [11:35:51] BigD | you call THAT a NOIF? [11:35:57] ---| ---> dlovins [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1711b316a3bd7bdd] has joined #code4lib [11:35:58] MikeTaylor | Erik, er, what> [11:35:59] erikhatcher | lbjay++ [11:36:01] MikeTaylor | ? [11:36:01] * mjg_ snorts [11:36:10] akorphan | I see you've played knifey spooney before! [11:36:14] ---| <<-- fak3r [n=phil@chavez.cryer.us] has quit ("leaving") [11:36:19] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: just kidding: Karma for "solr" has been increased 63 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 60. [11:36:29] kat3 | flash_widgets++ [11:36:34] ---| <<-- iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7c67498740cc5efe] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:36:45] lbjay | @praise Australia [11:36:46] Kerwick | no flashing widgets please [11:36:47] zoia | Australia: you're the bee's knees [11:37:15] erikhatcher | g'day mate... you right? [11:37:15] MikeTaylor | OIC. No, I have no problem with solr ... just wish everyone realised how much more awesome Zebra is :-) [11:37:19] anarchivist | wickets++ [11:37:24] ---| ---> highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fc1119903963b4d] has joined #code4lib [11:37:31] MikeTaylor | How do you find out the karma of a thing? [11:37:38] ---| <<-- highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fc1119903963b4d] has quit (Client Quit) [11:37:39] skoczko | z3bra will be awsome [11:37:39] JodiS | @karma [11:37:40] zoia | JodiS: has neutral karma. [11:37:46] anarchivist | @karma MikeTaylor [11:37:47] zoia | anarchivist: Karma for "MikeTaylor" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [11:37:59] mjg_ | @most decreased [11:38:01] skoczko | if it ever gets completed that is :) [11:38:01] zoia mjg_: "iii": 171, "zoia": 151, "dbs": 126, "robcaSSon": 125, "edsu": 118, "mjgiarlo": 109, "sirsidynix": 82, "rsinger": 75, "lbjay": 69, "-": 56, "jrochkind": 48, "royt": 43, "voyager": 39, "jtgorman": 39, "ie": 34, "ksclarke": 34, "mbklein": 30, "PHP": 26, "rob_desk": 25, "firefox": 25, "<-": 25, "JodiS": 25, "gsf": 23, "anarchivist": 23, and "it": 21 [11:38:03] MikeTaylor | @karma solr [11:38:03] zoia | MikeTaylor: Karma for "solr" has been increased 63 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 60. [11:38:04] ecorrado | MikeTaylor: you need to not /ignore zoia [11:38:15] mjg_ | when flash is yesterday's technology, today is awesome. [11:38:20] JodiS | ecorrado: what's the opposite of /ignore ? [11:38:22] MikeTaylor | @ecorrado, why? [11:38:23] zoia | MikeTaylor: what's that got to do with the price of flan in crapistan? [11:38:30] MikeTaylor | It's /unignore [11:38:32] paulalbert | karma++ [11:38:35] cbeer | mjg_++ [11:38:38] JodiS | MikeTaylor: zoia returns karma. If you can't 'hear', that's why [11:38:39] abarrera | robcaSSon: yeah use in moderation [11:38:41] ecorrado | zoia reports karma [11:38:43] zoia | ecorrado: http://poopoopanda.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/poster63512997.jpg [11:38:44] erikhatcher | @karma karma [11:38:46] zoia | erikhatcher: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1050), and "dbs" (855). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-54). You (erikhatcher) are ranked 19 out of 8188. [11:38:46] akorphan | @karma karma [11:38:47] zoia | akorphan: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1050), and "dbs" (855). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-54). You (akorphan) are ranked 129 out of 8188. [11:38:48] harmless | MikeTaylor: solr uses lucene underneath, but could use zebra if things were more modular... [11:38:50] * robcaSSon calls his sponsor [11:38:53] akorphan | you owe me a coke. [11:38:57] robcaSSon | abarrera++ [11:38:58] JodiS | modularity++ [11:39:08] MikeTaylor | @karma solr [11:39:09] zoia | MikeTaylor: Karma for "solr" has been increased 63 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 60. [11:39:18] abarrera | robcaSSon: isn't mjgiarlo your sponsor? thats why you have so many problems [11:39:22] erikhatcher | harmless: it's intimately tied to lucene.... so it's a non-starter to separate solr from lucene [11:39:26] MikeTaylor | Oh, I see. That's neat. OK, I accept the existence of zoia. [11:39:37] harmless | erikhatcher: even the api? [11:39:45] erikhatcher | besides, Zebra could just "emulate" Solr with the same API [11:39:55] BigD | MikeTaylor: zoia is noisy, and over used, but slightly useful [11:40:02] erikhatcher | same wt=json, etc, and update XML... so it'd be trivial to look like Solr request/response-wise [11:40:03] mjg_ | My notion of sponsorship: if you fall off the wagon, hook me up, too. [11:40:07] robcaSSon | @insult BigD [11:40:07] zoia | BigD: You are nothing but a horn-beat tongueful of porous fish. [11:40:12] akorphan | I want someone to make a little SVG of me. [11:40:14] rjw | Not_developing_past_V1++ [11:40:17] ---| ---> dlovins_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8652863c1ae11b1] has joined #code4lib [11:40:24] skoczko | zebra++ [11:40:27] zoia | MikeTaylor: I accept you too [11:40:35] MikeTaylor | rjw, we find it better just to start at v2. It saves time. [11:40:35] ---| <<-- dlovins [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1711b316a3bd7bdd] has quit (Client Quit) [11:40:50] ecorrado | @quote add zoia is noisy, and over used, but slightly useful [11:40:51] zoia | ecorrado: The operation succeeded. Quote #1724 added. [11:40:52] BigD | is that one of The Incredibles on the screen? [11:41:06] rjw | MikeTaylor: that explains much ;-) [11:41:14] JodiS | where is the copyright tool? [11:41:22] ecorrado | laws-- [11:41:27] JodiS | laws+- [11:41:30] ---| <<-- MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0ada31af0c732d82] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:41:31] BigD | anarchy++ [11:41:33] ---| ---> mib_loxoe8sh [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc35defe19d763c8] has joined #code4lib [11:41:42] BillDueber | chaotic_good++ [11:41:42] decasm | rest services should be versioned on their representations, and then have the service switch based on Accept headers [11:41:42] * anarchivist fought the naragansett but the naragansett won [11:41:43] rjw | JodiS: in the copyright tool box [11:41:43] ---| User: *** mib_loxoe8sh is now known as fak3r [11:41:47] akorphan | svg_caricatures++ [11:41:53] JodiS | at nla.gov.au? [11:41:54] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-26f4c0924e978c29] has joined #code4lib [11:42:00] LibraryThingT | How do you get more karma results, like @karma -1000 or something? [11:42:02] BigD | lunch? [11:42:06] dansuchy | the o'reilly REST book has some kind of spooky lemur cover [11:42:07] BigD | foods? [11:42:08] robcaSSon | dead_moon++ [11:42:10] harmless | erikhatcher: yah, it may be that we can do modularity by just standardising on the solr api and wrap other pieces to smell the same as solr pieces. [11:42:14] BigD | blood sugar dropping [11:42:18] ---| ---> highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a5c7a2b84c65cc85] has joined #code4lib [11:42:19] anarchivist | dead_moon++ [11:42:21] BigD | evil declan emerging... [11:42:25] akorphan | BigD: I have peanuts. [11:42:28] fak3r | robcaSSon: that's no moon! [11:42:40] decasm | you wouldn't like me when i'm hungry [11:42:41] abarrera | BigD: when does the good declan emerge? [11:42:44] JodiS | somebody pass BigD a granola bar [11:42:47] rosy1280 | lunch++ [11:42:49] rsinger | modesty [11:42:50] kat3 | you won't like me when i'm hungry.. [11:42:54] fak3r | skinny_fonts-- [11:42:57] BigD | Donger needs protein! [11:43:00] akorphan | cazzerson++ [11:43:03] LibraryThingT | Awesome transition effect [11:43:10] fak3r | slide_transition++ [11:43:14] mjg_ | "birkin rocks like birkinstocks" [11:43:21] BigD | fancy! [11:43:33] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- # blech [11:43:34] paulalbert | I prefer the fire transition [11:43:36] ---| <<-- mib_1t6px3yd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d2cf84786ee331e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:43:37] dhanu | does anyone else think the row of lights at the back is too bright? [11:43:44] * ecorrado would show how much his tools are used if anyone used them [11:43:51] robcaSSon | dead_battery-- [11:43:54] skoczko | slide_transition++ [11:43:56] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-280e7b6475e0e1fc] has quit ("mibbit.com:") [11:43:59] Baroquem | Keynote '09? [11:44:01] skoczko | xml_in_slides-- [11:44:07] harmless | erikhatcher: would that work? or is the system too tightly coupled? [11:44:15] BigD | nice picture [11:44:22] paulalbert | Baroquem: yes [11:44:27] dlovins_ | data_silos-- [11:44:29] MikeTaylor | Yes, but why is the nice picture so small? [11:44:36] ---| ---> andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-082fbc8ef75c3983] has joined #code4lib [11:44:37] MikeTaylor | People, USE THE SPACE when you build your slides. [11:44:43] skoczko | it's a smalll data silloo [11:44:45] rsinger | i don't like transitions because it takes the attention away from ME ME ME [11:44:47] skoczko | only few gigs [11:44:57] BigD | MikeTaylor: negative space is important [11:45:05] BigD | and it's plenty big up front ;) [11:45:06] fak3r | he needs to look up [11:45:08] erikhatcher | vw++ [11:45:10] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9309786bff28a85e] has joined #code4lib [11:45:17] edsu | what about the clock :)a [11:45:19] ecorrado | kilometer-- [11:45:20] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [11:45:28] BigD | fak3r: if he looks at you, you turn to stone [11:45:29] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: use the space? more words? [11:45:30] MikeTaylor | Negative space CAN be important, but ultimately only as way of drawing attention to where it belongs. That is not what we are seeing here. [11:45:30] ecorrado | metric_system-- [11:45:34] lbjay | finally, a speaker where the lack of eye contact is mutual [11:45:34] fak3r | metric_system_in_general-- [11:45:37] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [11:45:43] fak3r | lbjay++ [11:45:44] rsinger | metric_system++ [11:45:47] timmcgeary | lbjay++ [11:45:51] mjg_ | lbjay++ [11:45:52] dchud | i've wanted to build one of these for five years [11:45:56] akorphan | powers_of_10++ [11:45:57] escowles | metric_system++ [11:45:57] BigD | lbjay++ [11:45:59] edsu | lbjay++ [11:46:00] fak3r | us_adoption_of_metric_system-- [11:46:03] rsinger | trapper_keeper_insides++ # while we don't use metric [11:46:08] * BillDueber is putting in an internal grant to build something like this. [11:46:16] MikeTaylor | r [11:46:21] erikhatcher | harmless: whether you can tease solr's request/response code out and use it outside lucene or any other ugliness (like the config), no, i wouldn't do that [11:46:24] fak3r | is he hacking right now? [11:46:26] MikeTaylor | (Sorry, typed into the wrong window.) [11:46:35] paulalbert | I think I saw a porn site in the bookmarks [11:46:37] ejk | Don't hit the "Open All in Tabs" option [11:46:37] ---| <<-- highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a5c7a2b84c65cc85] has quit (Client Quit) [11:46:38] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-21e94a864f3b4d11] has joined #code4lib [11:46:41] erikhatcher | just take solr xml and figure out how to ingest it with your own server-side implementation, same on response writing formats [11:46:44] * BigD makes note to self to clean up bookmarks BEFORE presenting... [11:46:44] skoczko | off topic, how many people use linux on their laptops? [11:46:54] LibraryThingT | Are people around on Thursday? If there was a walking tour of Lovecraft's providence or a visit to the Providence Athenæum (http://www.providenceathenaeum.org/) [11:46:57] BillDueber | skoczko: 8 [11:47:01] fak3r | skoczko: over here - Debian 5.0 (lenny) [11:47:04] mjg_ | skoczko: me me me [11:47:08] bess | LibraryThingTim: yes! [11:47:13] skoczko | ubuntu here [11:47:19] anarchivist | bess: i might be up for that too [11:47:22] jrochkind100 | LibraryThingTim: Maybe. PS: I'm going up to portland for the weekend, anything fun I should do? [11:47:23] MikeTaylor | Look at the size of that grapH! [11:47:26] gsf_ | skoczko: debian [11:47:27] bess | LibraryThingTim: Have you seen Adam Soroka's HP Lovecraft GIS thing yet? So cool. [11:47:30] lbjay | @dow eng [11:47:30] ---| ---> highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f84f38b7ca9c8b9c] has joined #code4lib [11:47:32] mjg_ | intrepid ibex on my laptop [11:47:34] akorphan | negative_space-- [11:47:35] zoia | lbjay: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [11:47:35] jstroop | skoczko: ubuntu [11:47:35] fak3r | skoczko: still thinking of pulling the trig on a dell mini 9 w/ubunut [11:47:38] dansuchy | paulabert: i think i saw mention of furries too [11:47:48] kat3 | tufte++ [11:47:48] atz | ok, trying again in safari.... still duplicate posts? [11:47:50] fak3r | akorphan: no doubt, how about div align=center? [11:47:55] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Panlibus " Blog Archive " A look through the Grid at Code4lib || del.icio.us: How to Present While People are Twittering | Pistachio || Matienzo, Mark: Go FOAF Yourself [11:47:57] akorphan | atz: better [11:47:58] rsinger | atz: no [11:47:58] fak3r | atz: no [11:48:02] skoczko | cool looks like ubuntu/debian has conquered the desktop :) [11:48:03] erikhatcher | harmless: there is a good reason it is tied to lucene in a sense.... consider writing out search results response.... pipelining large stored fields uses too much memory, so solr pulls them and streams them at the last moment, pretty much straight from lucene [11:48:04] anarchivist | does anyone know if we're doing lunch in here? [11:48:04] paulalbert | dansuchy: furverts are everywhere [11:48:14] atz | cool. [11:48:15] erikhatcher | tufte-- [11:48:17] fak3r | I wouldn't say I've been missing books... [11:48:18] LibraryThingT | "I'm going up to portland for the weekend, anything fun I should do?" Have lunch with me? [11:48:23] rsinger | herverts [11:48:26] lbjay | anarchivist: i would asume [11:48:28] andyashton | this IRC channel is like a really nerdy quilting bee [11:48:31] LibraryThingT | bess: no. Will check out. [11:48:40] akorphan | mini is right. [11:48:41] fak3r | mini_chart-- [11:48:42] anarchivist | herverts++ # open repositoris [11:48:46] jrochkind100 | LibraryThingTim: Sure, maybe, I'm visiting a friend, but let's make sure we have each other's phone#s. [11:48:48] LibraryThingT | sparklines++ [11:48:51] BillDueber | Incredibly useful data, displayed in such a way that no one will ever understand them [11:48:55] LibraryThingT | 207 272-0553 [11:49:01] ---| ---> fedwards [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c75bef76e07fb2f] has joined #code4lib [11:49:02] lbjay | @quote add this IRC channel is like a really nerdy quilting bee [11:49:03] MikeTaylor | I once saw a quilting bee on a David Attenborough documentary. [11:49:03] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Quote #1725 added. [11:49:05] bess | LibraryThingTim: he's going to be showing it in his GIS talk [11:49:07] mjg_ | andyashton++ [11:49:15] LibraryThingT | Awesome. [11:49:19] jrochkind100 | LibraryThingTim: I might call you on sat or sun then? thanks. [11:49:28] MikeTaylor | Still keen on negative space now you've seen the current slide? [11:49:35] cbarr | has anyone used netvibe open source? http://netvibes.org/ [11:49:41] wtd | Lovecraft GIS? Cool, [11:49:42] fak3r | scroll_bars-- [11:49:51] BigD | i'm so keen i'm shining [11:50:01] timmcgeary | who brought their room alarm clock? [11:50:02] akorphan | I liked cup+fork better. [11:50:02] ---| <<-- BLTnoTomato [i=837a6839@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-57ae94ad6d6f9f23] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:50:04] fak3r | annoying_ringtones++ [11:50:08] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@216.236.252.231] has joined #code4lib [11:50:09] zoia | ALL RISE [11:50:11] LibraryThingT | Yeah. Massive LibraryThing employee meetup that weekend, so I'm not positive we'll be available. Alas, nobody you know—the library programmers come later. [11:50:34] fak3r | all dashboards need a stoplight somewhere [11:50:38] ---| <<-- highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f84f38b7ca9c8b9c] has quit (Client Quit) [11:50:46] akorphan | no_context_labels-- [11:50:48] lbjay | JodiS: was that your chumby? [11:50:58] LibraryThingT | Does anyone use any of the chart-making tools? Google has one, I think. [11:51:01] ---| <<-- skoczko [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4f5ef905f8c4680c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:51:08] fak3r | chumby +or- discuss [11:51:12] JodiS | lbjay: no, my chumby's upstairs [11:51:12] jrochkind100 | LibraryThingTim: how many employees have you guys got these days? [11:51:14] LibraryThingT | I want to program a Librarything-Chumby mashup. [11:51:16] MrDys | LibraryThingTim: define chart-making tools [11:51:16] ---| ---> BLTnoTomato [i=837a6839@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cd863af55cd507d4] has joined #code4lib [11:51:17] LibraryThingT | Ten. [11:51:23] jrochkind100 | nice [11:51:24] rsinger | @ana my chumby's upstairs [11:51:25] zoia | rsinger: Ha! Yummy subscripts [11:51:26] LibraryThingT | Makes graphs, pie-charts etc. Easy. [11:51:29] harmless | erikhatcher: i wonder if you could still have a performant index if you abstract it enough to some standard where you could could mix and match indices, faceting, snippet generation, etc. [11:51:32] rosy1280 | excel-- [11:51:39] erikhatcher | harmless: no [11:51:44] MrDys | good luck, birkin [11:51:45] dchud | love this stuff. [11:51:48] akorphan | bad negative space widgets > e-mailed excel spreadsheets [11:51:49] LibraryThingT | God, I really hate Django. [11:51:50] erikhatcher | lucene is the secret sauce [11:51:52] JodiS | lbjay: would love to hand it around if anybody wants to play. plugging into ethernet is probably the easiest way to get it on the network here. also needs power plugged in. [11:51:52] fak3r | django_pronounciation-- [11:52:05] cbeer | LibraryThingTim: flot, here < http://code.google.com/p/flot/ > [11:52:08] dchud | django admin ui++ [11:52:11] jfereira | Djatoka_pronunciation-- [11:52:12] akorphan | fak3r: alternative to "Jango"? [11:52:13] MikeTaylor | Here is a full-sized representation of the graph on the current slide, for those of you not at the conference: "\/\" [11:52:13] jrochkind100 | that trend arrow really ought to be calculated from best-fit slope of the last N data points, not just the last 2. [11:52:18] fak3r | jfereira++ [11:52:33] JodiS | anarchivist: would like to play musical chairs at some point, meet more people. guess that's for tomorrow? [11:52:39] ---| ---> eikeon [n=eikeon@pool-71-191-30-193.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #code4lib [11:52:41] ---| ---> tholbroo [n=tholbroo@hs72260.lib.sfu.ca] has joined #code4lib [11:52:43] LibraryThingT | Flot is nice. Thanks. [11:52:54] fak3r | anarchivist: good idea [11:52:55] abarrera | mjgiarlo: flot you [11:52:57] erikhatcher | JodiS: good suggestion - musical chairs after lunch would be a good plan [11:53:07] LibraryThingT | I'm on my Verizon card and it's slow. Is wifi doing well? [11:53:27] dlovins_ | LibraryThingTim: wifi is very very slow [11:53:29] jrochkind100 | eh, it's doing barely okay, the wifi. [11:53:31] jchen | like the musical chair idea [11:53:32] BigD | i'm keeping my chair [11:53:34] * mjg_ weeps. [11:53:40] JodiS | erikhatcher: well, somebody suggest it then :) [11:53:47] dchud | jrochkind100: i think you're overthinking what he's trying to do. he keeps saying "just enough info", i think that's right [11:53:49] jrochkind100 | So you have to manually paste in your data? Hmm. [11:53:50] BigD | "from my cold, dead..." heinie [11:53:58] fak3r | chinese fire drill during a talk? [11:54:01] jbrinley | BigD: keep the chair, just go to another table with it [11:54:06] anarchivist | BigD-- # gross [11:54:11] akorphan | wait, does it update those data points by hand or not? [11:54:12] jrochkind100 | dchud: best-fit slope over hte last 6 data points would be no more info on the dashboard -- it would still just be an arrow. But it would be a less statistically misleading one. [11:54:14] akorphan | err. [11:54:15] JodiS | my fave from that "back-channel presentation" post: "ombudsman" from back-channel, e.g. somebody to shout at you during your talk, when needed [11:54:19] JodiS | can't see :( [11:54:22] akorphan | s/by hand/automatically [11:54:25] dchud | no, it wouldn't be by hand. he's just showing you what the data *is* [11:54:31] ---| ---> highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-24b148df212effeb] has joined #code4lib [11:54:34] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-70a0c4f926115acf] has joined #code4lib [11:54:41] mjg_ | notes for future presenters: FONT UP. [11:54:44] akorphan | dchud: whew. [11:54:44] jrochkind100 | I think it IS by hand, yeah? I'm pretty sure. [11:54:50] JodiS | wifi varies. ok here. we're not hearing more from ejynema 'cause of wifi, for instance [11:54:51] abarrera | BigD: your chair wants you to get off it [11:54:56] JodiS | mjg_: indeed! [11:55:01] dchud | jrochkind100: you really want best fit over 6 points instead of the six points? if anything, both is better [11:55:04] cbeer | LibraryThingTim: Also, rrd for metrics [11:55:04] JodiS | royt: you got that, re: getting the font size up? [11:55:07] ---| ---> sechard [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7ecdc28f06a73bef] has joined #code4lib [11:55:09] ecorrado | jrochkind100: he said all except one are automatic [11:55:09] fak3r | presentation directly to laptop [11:55:13] JodiS | royt: for whatever pull you have? [11:55:13] andyashton | it can be by hand, or a feed from databases [11:55:16] jrochkind100 | huh, 6 instead of "six"? [11:55:22] akorphan | jrochkind100: There was some note about "Data may be filled in programattically" [11:55:32] fak3r | graphBackground-- [11:55:35] ---| <<-- wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [11:55:40] BigD | royt's checked out [11:55:42] dchud | imho this is great work. every library administrator i've ever known would *love* having this. [11:55:43] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@216.236.252.231] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [11:55:52] MikeTaylor | This is amazing -- the use of space in the slides is getting worse! [11:55:52] MikeTaylor | Oh, that's better. [11:55:52] jrochkind100 | I don't think just giving me the last TWO data points is an accurate 'trend'. The person creating the widget should decide how many data points to calculate the trend over, depending on the nature of the data. [11:55:55] JodiS | jrochkind100: good to have multiple ways to input data [11:55:55] khatar | graphForeground-- [11:55:57] fak3r | wait, couldn't they have used google analytics here? [11:55:57] ---| <<-- sara_bee [n=miker@c-76-97-57-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:56:01] * timmcgeary is fonting up [11:56:03] fak3r | bookmobile++ [11:56:08] mjg_ | timmcgeary++ [11:56:12] ---| ---> sara_bee [n=miker@c-76-97-57-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [11:56:13] JodiS | anarchivist: you gonna give that google analytics lightning talk? [11:56:14] akorphan | I think the chart includes more data than just the 2 points reported. [11:56:15] harmless | erikhatcher: not necessarily jury-rigging existing tech, but if starting from scratch, couldn't you define some minimum set of what hooks need to exist between the different layers and what can be blackbox? [11:56:16] JodiS | fonting_up++ [11:56:21] ecorrado | royt is reading over ecorrado's shoulder [11:56:26] mjg_ | birkin just fonted down [11:56:27] jrochkind100 | akorphan: I'm talking about the up/down 'trend' arrow. [11:56:31] ---| ---> mbklein [i=root@nexus.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [11:56:31] dchud | jrochkind100: i mean that you can show both the actual values and a trend curve. which would be better than just showing one or the other. [11:56:31] JodiS | thanks ecorrado :) [11:56:35] paulalbert | WYSIWYG Google Chart creator I use: http://www.tagarga.com/files/gcui/ [11:56:36] timmcgeary | @karma timmcgeary [11:56:37] zoia | timmcgeary: Karma for "timmcgeary" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [11:56:40] ---| <<-- atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-21e94a864f3b4d11] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:56:40] ---| <<-- highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-24b148df212effeb] has quit (Client Quit) [11:56:45] harmless | erikhatcher: or does this kind of system generically necessitate a high degree of coupling? [11:56:51] erikhatcher | harmless: a generic one size fits all solution will be the least common denominator [11:56:55] fak3r | wget rss -> sed/awk -> ??? -> profit! [11:56:58] gsf_ | fonting_down++ like a slap in the face [11:57:06] mjg_ | birkin++ [11:57:06] dchud | fak3r: steal underpants. [11:57:09] anarchivist | gsf_++ [11:57:16] JodiS | erikhatcher: lcd as in, less scalable? [11:57:17] fak3r | dchud: yes, that's it [11:57:20] anarchivist | rss-- [11:57:37] erikhatcher | harmless: i just know how solr is wired and how it works with lucene and docsets, etc.... uncoupling lucene wouldn't be trivial. and surely less scalable (since almost everything is less scalable than lucene) [11:57:40] ---| <<-- _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e3feb64fffc85890] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:57:42] jrochkind100 | dchud: Are we both talking about hte same thing? The up/down arrow? I like the up/down arrow, I just don't like the way it's calculated, is all I'm saying. [11:57:51] edsu | did he mention that the data is available from thesame url? [11:58:00] gsf_ | this is not the dashboard view of the dashboard initiative [11:58:02] gsf_ | not that i want that [11:58:06] dchud | jrochkind100: no, we weren't. let's keep arguing anyway, though. we're on the internet! [11:58:07] akorphan | Widget URL should include a flag that renders widget view or full view. [11:58:10] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:58:12] gsf_ | but just sayin [11:58:14] akorphan | it'd be cleaner [11:58:17] fak3r | looked up [11:58:40] fak3r | netsplit-- [11:58:46] dchud | just in time for a break... [11:59:00] jrochkind100 | we might as well have freenode problems to match our local network problems. [11:59:08] fak3r | or if they're magnolia, don't restore things from the db [11:59:12] mjg_ | um, code4lib conf w/o IRC? wtf are we going to do? [11:59:18] ---| <<-- mib_vso73lau [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d6332f65f660aee3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:59:23] anarchivist | mjg_: drink? [11:59:38] mjg_ | quick, someone register the channel over at EFnet. [11:59:40] jrochkind100 | anarchivist: i forgot my flask. [11:59:46] ---| <<-- ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-70a0c4f926115acf] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:59:46] fak3r | mjg_: I have my own ircd on my lappy - but gsf couldn't connect. [11:59:47] ---| ---> mib_42uy8j [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3053c670dbf7cdd2] has joined #code4lib [11:59:54] mjg_ | fak3r++ [12:00:19] * mjg_ wants low-hanging fruit for lunch [12:00:27] JodiS | I still don't see the copyright tool at http://www.nla.gov.au/ 's toolbar. Hope somebody will show it to me later. [12:00:29] jrochkind100 | yeah, this actually is fairly neat. [12:00:36] anarchivist | mjg_: BigD has some of that [12:00:38] jrochkind100 | But if we were to use it first we'd have to actually HAVE usage data. [12:00:39] mjg_ | birkin++ # neat that someone's working on this [12:00:39] fak3r | gsf_: 10.7.55.119 8080 ? [12:00:40] JodiS | freenode problems? please no [12:00:41] ---| ---> mib_weebvg1j [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a0fdc90c505cf0a2] has joined #code4lib [12:00:44] mjg_ | anarchivist+- [12:00:57] cschx | wants low-hanging hamburgers [12:00:57] jrochkind100 | fak3r: what's that? [12:00:57] * MrDys is pretty jaded on this topic [12:00:59] abarrera | anarchivist+- # ewww [12:01:03] timmcgeary | need library data-farm [12:01:04] JodiS | birkin's SO is going to be *so* happy if that university-level stuff happens [12:01:11] taco | i want a burrito [12:01:14] JodiS | MrDys: bad experiences with stats? [12:01:16] mjg_ | taco++ [12:01:19] erikhatcher | mjg_: wants "french" fries for lunch [12:01:25] jrochkind100 | taco: you [12:01:26] JodiS | http://library.brown.edu/dashboard [12:01:30] jrochkind100 | taco: you're in providence? [12:01:34] LibraryThingT | yay [12:01:34] gsf_ | fak3r: i'll try again [12:01:39] * jrochkind100 is assuming edsu's not pretneidng ot be taco again. [12:01:41] timmcgeary | dashboard++ [12:01:43] bess | yay for walking the open source walk! [12:01:44] cbeer | fak3r: I'm still getting 400 Bad Request from the proxy [12:01:52] andyashton | birkin ++ [12:01:54] JodiS | QR code awesome! [12:01:55] MrDys | JodiS: implementation/adoption is a big issue that isn't being addressed [12:01:56] LibraryThingT | Taco: Why do I need to go to NL, if you keep coming here? [12:01:58] jrochkind100 | cbeer: Yeah, me too, I get that. [12:01:58] timmcgeary | free_beer++ [12:02:02] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=root@nexus.dreamhost.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [12:02:05] JodiS | MrDys: interesting [12:02:12] fak3r | cbeer: dunno, sry. [12:02:14] jrochkind100 | cbeer: I'm (trying) using colloquoy on osx. [12:02:15] dlovins_ | Growing low-hanging fruit at the library data farm? [12:02:20] JodiS | royt++ [12:02:21] JodiS | royt++ [12:02:24] akorphan | font_engorge++ [12:02:24] abarrera | lunch++ [12:02:30] JodiS | royt++ [12:02:30] ---| <--- jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e5524f865d297b07] has left #code4lib () [12:02:31] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5859aaace59db29f] has joined #code4lib [12:02:33] JodiS | royt++ [12:02:34] ecorrado | back_of_room: buy a telescope [12:02:36] ---| <<-- calvinm_ [i=calvinm@fraser.sfu.ca] has quit () [12:02:38] ---| <<-- paulalbert [n=paulalbe@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:02:41] cbeer | jrochkind100: i tried through telnet itself [12:02:41] ---| <<-- abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:02:42] taco | royt++ [12:02:45] timmcgeary | ecorrado++ [12:02:46] MrDys | JodiS: something like that would work better in some instutions rather than others depending on the org structure and workflow for data reporting... 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[12:02:54] timmcgeary | lunch++ [12:02:55] JodiS | MrDys: right [12:02:55] escowles | half-hearted_applause-- [12:02:56] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc0e88ba559c22b4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:03:01] ---| <<-- atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5859aaace59db29f] has quit (Client Quit) [12:03:03] JodiS | MikeTaylor++ [12:03:06] JodiS | escowles: agreed [12:03:18] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:03:22] andyashton | I prefer "smattering" to "half-hearted" [12:03:25] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit () [12:03:27] ---| ---> mbklein [i=root@nexus.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [12:03:31] ---| <--- decasm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-93330e79070649a1] has left #code4lib () [12:03:31] cbeer | jrochkind100: thank the ibaud providers for their proxy system that makes us "Safer" [12:03:31] ---| <--- andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-082fbc8ef75c3983] has left #code4lib () [12:03:34] jrochkind100 | cbeer: I mean, we can connect to freenode, but then freenode decides we've made a bad request. huh? 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[12:14:37] skoczko | off to lunch? [12:14:42] smkiewel | getting food [12:14:48] ecorrado | food++ [12:15:30] smkiewel | benefits of being back: quick access to food - makes up for not being able to read slides [12:15:42] smkiewel | in back* [12:15:45] ---| <<-- erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-58a681df05186337] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:16:17] ---| ---> mib_ta2hma [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fb81eeca97b8db4] has joined #code4lib [12:16:55] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [12:17:45] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-987e492ab7f9b7f5] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:19:50] ---| ---> taco [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-afa8cb094d25d544] has joined #code4lib [12:19:53] ---| ---> pgwillia [n=chatzill@75.159.108.92] has joined #code4lib [12:19:57] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: The Rise of Social Media and Multi-language Communication || del.icio.us: dashboard_beta :: dashboard information [12:22:51] ---| ---> royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:23:16] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-69.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:24:43] papo | hum [12:24:46] ---| ---> mib_p6w31h89 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-68b9966ad9a3fc71] has joined #code4lib [12:24:53] papo | anyone familiar with ExLibris' Verde in here? What's that? 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It's a eletronic resource/journal management thing [12:45:39] ---| <<-- wickr [n=wickr@c-24-21-35-5.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [12:45:42] ---| User: *** wickr_ is now known as wickr [12:45:46] papo | jtgorman: is it cool? [12:45:48] jtgorman | papo: ie supposed to make it easy to tell if journal x is provided by one of the vendors/providers [12:45:49] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3a60698ff173cdc2] has joined #code4lib [12:45:58] jtgorman | papo: we only got it recently and I haven't touched it at all [12:46:42] ---| <<-- mmmmmrob [n=mmmmmrob@62.172.77.66] has quit () [12:47:31] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:47:43] papo | hm sounds like the same can be achieved by sticking together a few scripts to query the SFX knowledge base [12:47:49] papo | just with less bugs perhaps [12:48:35] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b0932d46fbe4e3d7] has joined #code4lib [12:48:55] akorphan | FOCUS! [12:49:02] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Freebase Apps || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: The Rise of Social Media and Multi-language Communication || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: The Impact of Global Digital Natives || Engard, Nicole: ‡biblios.net Video Tutorials anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:52:56] jtgorman | of course, we also have a crazy amount of resources as well... [12:53:04] papo | yes so do we [12:53:32] ---| ---> gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fd1ea5e5b1523f4a] has joined #code4lib [12:53:34] papo | it's just that I'm just not in the mood for one more miserable ExLibris product :( [12:54:00] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-25cbd11af6d6759a] has joined #code4lib [12:54:08] anarchivist | @quote random [12:54:10] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #888: "< artunit> a URL is your contract with the world" (added by edsu at 05:18 PM, June 06, 2007) [12:54:18] anarchivist | BigD: http://www.flickr.com/photos/anarchivist/3305775662/ [12:54:30] mbklein | @quote search metadata [12:54:44] zoia | mbklein: 24 found: #1272: " A little bit of structured metadata...", #1517: ": EAD, the metadata format designed to...", #1537: "< wickr> metadata is cruel...", #1545: " Metadata needs more catsuits", #160: " metadata is my attitude", #191: " metadata is like unto a bird on the...", #20: " death is easy, metadata is hard", #334: " sucky metadata is still sucky (3 more messages) [12:54:53] mbklein | @quote get 1517 [12:54:54] zoia | mbklein: Quote #1517: ": EAD, the metadata format designed to punish technologists" (added by royt at 05:28 PM, September 16, 2008) [12:55:28] anarchivist | @karma ead [12:55:30] zoia | anarchivist: Karma for "ead" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3. [12:55:34] anarchivist | ead-- [12:55:36] anarchivist | @karma eac [12:55:36] zoia | anarchivist: eac has neutral karma. [12:55:39] anarchivist | eac++ [12:55:56] ---| ---> dansuchy [i=896e10a2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2daeb61f6be0e216] has joined #code4lib [12:56:56] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-93490557c693da38] has joined #code4lib [12:57:01] MrDys | there's a posse on the stage [12:57:08] ---| ---> paulalbert [n=paulalbe@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:57:08] ---| <<-- rjw_ [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:57:38] dansuchy | still no bacon. ham, but no bacon. [12:57:51] ---| ---> mbklein_ [i=root@nexus.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [12:57:57] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c04862263c11a496] has joined #code4lib [12:58:09] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [12:58:22] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b0932d46fbe4e3d7] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [12:58:29] ---| User: *** mbklein_ is now known as mbklein [12:58:35] lbjay | anarchivist: res for 8 at 7pm [12:58:36] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=root@nexus.dreamhost.com] has quit (Client Quit) [12:58:43] anarchivist | lbjay++ [12:58:53] ---| ---> mib_dpon5ltq [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-84360755f1a03d84] has joined #code4lib [12:59:34] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-323b52671b5acd7a] has joined #code4lib [12:59:46] papo | jtgorman: hm from what I understand, the most "worthy" part of Verde is this knowledge base which gets synced regularly. I've read somewhere that verde and sfx knowledge base were merged back in 2007 [13:00:02] papo | if that's true, I should have everything needed to but together that stuff on my own [13:00:15] timmcgeary | when we evaluated Verde in 2007, it was NOT merged with SFX [13:00:28] royt | lbjay: is your offer to MC still good? If so, you get Friday [13:00:34] royt | Thursday, I mean [13:00:45] ---| ---> mib_xxmepy6r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d511f61cf832d90a] has joined #code4lib [13:01:17] ---| ---> ccatalfo [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0836f6b50c83f47b] has joined #code4lib [13:01:20] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bf7b9f2ad70dffb4] has joined #code4lib [13:01:39] lbjay | royt: cool. awesome :) [13:01:47] jtgorman | papo: yeah, I don't know anything about that [13:01:47] MrDys | I can't believe #c4l09 isn't trending on twitter yet [13:01:50] MrDys | get tweeting, people [13:01:51] lbjay | @decide cool or awesome [13:01:51] zoia | lbjay: go with cool [13:01:54] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:01:57] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7e50dfbc65fe068a] has joined #code4lib [13:02:00] ---| ---> mib_qg0sa564 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-19163e015c560779] has joined #code4lib [13:02:01] jtgorman | papo: dealing with Voyager on a regular basis is abuse enough for me [13:02:13] pmurray | MrDys: Twitter > IRC? [13:02:14] jtgorman | papo: we have another poor soul that gets to deal with SFX and Verde [13:02:19] papo | :) [13:02:31] MrDys | pmurray: of course not [13:02:36] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5ae318f4f2d6b449] has joined #code4lib [13:02:41] ---| ---> highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-35268f637410f266] has joined #code4lib [13:02:47] lbjay | royt: i'll try not to spill beer on all my good shirts by then [13:02:49] ecorrado | edsu++ [13:02:51] mbklein | to pump...YOU UP [13:02:52] akorphan | strawberry_cake++ [13:02:53] abarrera | hanz++ franz-- [13:03:08] abarrera | my_iphone-- [13:03:13] mbklein | NERRRRRRRDS! [13:03:17] mib_p6w31h89 | put that thing away mike [13:03:22] ---| User: *** mib_p6w31h89 is now known as fak3r [13:03:22] ecorrado | @sing the dead milkmen : swordfish [13:03:23] dchud | them's my people! 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[13:03:37] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ce5df61548437476] has joined #code4lib [13:03:38] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:03:38] ---| ---> decasm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6da0940b784399da] has joined #code4lib [13:03:39] anarchivist | swordfish++ [13:03:45] mbklein | dchud: Admitting you have a problem is the first step in recovery [13:03:47] fak3r | run it locally [13:03:48] dchud | trombones++ [13:03:58] ---| ---> endupok [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c8bbf4982b8a6aee] has joined #code4lib [13:03:59] fak3r | mbklein: and apparently the first step in a presentation [13:04:15] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:04:21] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:04:21] lbjay | that's the same sound that the Death Roy makes. weird. [13:04:24] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:04:24] ---| ---> kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:04:24] MrDys | fak3r: they were going to, but mjgiarlo's laptop is on wireless and it's not communicating with the podium laptop stably [13:04:37] mib_xxmepy6r | supository [13:04:38] ---| ---> mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has joined #code4lib [13:04:43] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [13:04:55] ejk | we need Fibre to the Podium [13:05:02] anarchivist | ejk: metamucil? [13:05:03] fak3r | MrDys: damn, yeah that's what we were trying the FW seems to block int <-> int connections - 25 is the only thing open [13:05:06] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d439bbf97ec60807] has joined #code4lib [13:05:20] fak3r | MrDys: I would have brought a router and helped out, would have been fun [13:05:27] ecorrado | suxx0r++ [13:05:33] BigD | could they use a less contrasty font? [13:05:34] royt | lbjay: that's ok, if you have beer stains you'll just fit in [13:05:38] BigD | i can see this way too well [13:05:41] MrDys | too bad atz shipped back the router he brought [13:05:41] BillDueber | fak3r: You keep using that word "fun". I do not think it means what you think it means. [13:05:43] Kerwick | l33t speak-- [13:05:44] fak3r | they forgot the '!1!1!!!one' [13:05:46] BigD | what am i going to whine about? [13:05:48] ---| ---> cwulfman [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [13:05:50] mbklein | Is it really too much to expect that a facility that earns its bread and butter through conferences have wireless that's at least as good as the local community college? [13:05:51] ---| <<-- eom [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a42d8bb437db0aba] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:05:54] anarchivist | oai-pmh looks like lolspeak in lowercase [13:05:56] fak3r | BigD: your choice [13:05:59] ---| ---> jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-11d192f2dfe48b65] has joined #code4lib [13:06:01] mbklein | BigD: you'll find something [13:06:04] abarrera | BigD: stop looking at mjgiarlo lovingly [13:06:08] anarchivist | O HAI IM HARVESTIN UR R3PO [13:06:09] fak3r | stealing is bad, m'k? [13:06:11] kat3 | the user rarely looks that happy [13:06:18] ---| User: *** highermath is now known as highermath_at_co [13:06:19] mbklein | AAGH! DIAGRAM HEADACHE [13:06:20] akorphan | oai-pmh cat iz watching u code4lib [13:06:20] BigD | abarrera: that's not possible [13:06:24] fak3r | I KAN HAZ YRS DATA? [13:06:34] * dchud hates the lolz [13:06:38] ecorrado | is mjgiarlo tht lolcat of this presentation? [13:06:40] ---| User: *** highermath_at_co is now known as highermath_code4 [13:06:46] anarchivist | ecorrado: no, dchud is [13:06:47] mib_xxmepy6r | spolier alert... funny pic coming up [13:06:48] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-40387e845bdfa980] has joined #code4lib [13:06:54] mbklein | AAGH! DIAGRAM HEADACHE [13:06:55] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d838e8062a344365] has joined #code4lib [13:06:56] ecorrado | anarchivist++ [13:07:03] akorphan | FOCUS! [13:07:05] fak3r | spoiler: the dog dies [13:07:07] dhanu | what was the pic? i missed it [13:07:13] abarrera | ecorrado: no he's the pointless, knowledgless sidekick [13:07:17] ---| ---> dlovins [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-508889f988702364] has joined #code4lib [13:07:18] akorphan | spoiler: she's a guy! [13:07:19] ---| ---> motorgirl [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c11f93092b4fdb3] has joined #code4lib [13:07:19] mib_xxmepy6r | and sanpe kills duberdore [13:07:20] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44f5011976e081a0] has joined #code4lib [13:07:24] dchud | pretty feed picture [13:07:26] ecorrado | abarrera: that is a giving [13:07:29] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2059fc3e505fad80] has joined #code4lib [13:07:30] anarchivist | abarrera: he's a guy with the SWORD [13:07:39] emcrens | Was that the funny pic? [13:07:39] ---| ---> erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bb69171c5ba10c4e] has joined #code4lib [13:07:41] kgs | @wunder pvd [13:07:43] BigD | mjgiarlo's up there as beefcake [13:07:43] zoia | kgs: The current temperature in Providence, Rhode Island is 33.8°F (12:51 PM EST on February 24, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Steady). [13:07:44] dchud | it's just too bad a macmini had to be sacrified to make that icon [13:07:51] mbklein | Huh. A syndicated feed in convenient brick form. [13:07:52] ---| User: *** mib_qg0sa564 is now known as mouwd [13:07:53] fak3r | they still have the pointer on the screen [13:07:55] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53af9047c31db11a] has joined #code4lib [13:07:56] ecorrado | @votes 2010 [13:07:56] abarrera | BigD: more like baconcake [13:07:57] anarchivist | dchud++ [13:07:57] zoia | ecorrado: i get no joy from this http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/04/20/funny-pictures-finds-no-joy-in-his-job/ [13:08:02] ---| User: *** gsf is now known as gsf_ [13:08:06] ecorrado | @vote2010 [13:08:08] zoia | ecorrado: http://www.stopabductions.com/ [13:08:09] anarchivist | abarrera++ [13:08:11] ---| ---> andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e1893f473de5cef0] has joined #code4lib [13:08:12] anarchivist | @hosts2010 [13:08:13] zoia | anarchivist: Asheville, NC [202]; Austin, TX [177]; Madison, WI [154]; Columbus, OH [108]; Bloomington, IN [83] [13:08:13] BigD | abarrera: now i just love him mote [13:08:15] BigD | more [13:08:15] anarchivist | @hosts2011 [13:08:16] zoia | anarchivist: Hooker, Oklahoma [95]; Panic, Pennsylvania [92]; Yeehaw Junction, Florida [78]; Ben Hur, Texas [58]; Hot Coffee, Mississippi [42]; Magazine, Arkansas [3] [13:08:17] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7e50dfbc65fe068a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:08:20] ecorrado | anarchivist++ [13:08:33] ejlynema | oh, yes. c4lj is *also* working on an article about oai-ore. :) see next issue in 1 month. [13:08:33] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d073031e7fc365d9] has joined #code4lib [13:08:39] fak3r | FB-- [13:08:45] ---| ---> agd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5996ac939a32c6b7] has joined #code4lib [13:08:45] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15e2d7be4c2af7c1] has joined #code4lib [13:08:51] jtgorman | fak3r: what did they do now? [13:09:05] mbklein | Pee Dee Eff? [13:09:11] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4491d74171cfe767] has joined #code4lib [13:09:26] fak3r | jtgorman: just a FB mention [13:09:31] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d073031e7fc365d9] has quit (Client Quit) [13:09:31] fak3r | nice icon [13:09:31] * akorphan isn't sure where the buy-in from PDF came from. [13:09:36] ---| ---> scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d5c74a567cdb9eb0] has joined #code4lib [13:09:40] mbklein | ejlynema++ # keepin' them honest. [13:09:40] taco | you canot haz pee on da elf [13:09:47] ---| ---> escowles [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bbe63a9efbcff0b8] has joined #code4lib [13:09:48] akorphan | err, buy in -for- pdf [13:10:05] fak3r | it's the pee to the dee to the eff, ya'll [13:10:05] ---| <--- gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fd1ea5e5b1523f4a] has left #code4lib () [13:10:13] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fcfb3eab1bc50571] has joined #code4lib [13:10:14] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [13:10:15] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [13:10:40] lbjay | mjgiarlo++ [13:10:43] mbklein | akorphan: Adobe rammed it down the throat of their corporate and gov't users and everyone else just fell in line. [13:10:43] * jtgorman decides he's just going to buy some headphone to keep at work [13:10:46] bess | mjgiarlo++ [13:10:46] royt | i need one volunteer to help dchud herd lightning talkers...any takers? [13:10:52] fak3r | iphones are so 2008 - pass it on [13:10:54] kat3 | that just happened [13:10:59] ejk | asciiart++ [13:11:01] gsf | mjgiarlo: best when he doesn't speak [13:11:04] kat3 | and was awesome [13:11:08] timmcgeary | fak34-- [13:11:12] bess | royt: what does that person need to do? I could help. [13:11:15] anarchivist | can someone make sure i have a visible timer? [13:11:17] royt | bess: you're hired [13:11:24] royt | bess: not sure yet, stay tuned [13:11:25] jtgorman | royt: I hear rumors that rsinger has a roomba. See if he's bought it. I'm sure he's modified it to have a herding function. [13:11:25] bess | royt: what do I do? [13:11:31] bess | okay, staying tuned [13:11:34] mbklein | mjgiarlo's light saber tells time?! [13:11:41] ecorrado | anarchivist: we'll have timers up here as long as royt isn't IRCing [13:11:42] scolford | roomba++ [13:11:47] ---| ---> abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:11:50] ---| ---> ranti [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4b302238b5aa36fd] has joined #code4lib [13:11:51] rsinger | somehow i did not pack my roomba [13:11:55] jbrinley | mbklein: no, the force tells time, the light saber helps him focus [13:12:29] lbjay | mike gets entranced by the yellow wallpaper... [13:12:44] ---| <<-- andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e1893f473de5cef0] has quit (Client Quit) [13:12:48] rsinger | noop [13:12:48] MrDys | lbjay: are you dying? [13:12:58] emcrens | Not as clumsy or as random as a blaster, but an elegant weapon for telling time. [13:13:01] anarchivist | he was looking longingly at the corner [13:13:08] * jtgorman gets tempted yet again to go home to where it's nice and quiet and work from home [13:13:16] fak3r | mjgiarlo: looks like a bouncer up there [13:13:17] BigD | pining for the fjords [13:13:20] bess | aaargh! the yellow wallpaper! I'm being oppressed by victorian sexual repression and hypocrisy! [13:13:33] fak3r | mjgiarlo: "sorry, private party" [13:13:38] ---| ---> gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f8f8b96b43fa7a4f] has joined #code4lib [13:13:42] bess | obscure_literary_allusions++ # at least I amuse myself [13:13:43] jtgorman | bess: don't worry, I'll be along in a bit to help you get those people out of it [13:13:46] MrDys | cover looks oddly similar to our yellow wallpaper: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/YellowWallpaperCover.jpg [13:13:52] jtgorman | bess: not that obscure to me ;) [13:13:54] ecorrado | mjgiarlo is there to force esu off the stage when his 20 minutes is up [13:14:07] * gsf checks for an earbud on mjgiarlo [13:14:09] jtgorman | bess: but I read way too many scary stories as a kid ;) [13:14:13] rsinger | bums_rusher++ [13:14:16] JodiS | papo: Verde is an ERM. Supposed to have the capability to pull in license data, eventually harvest with SUSHI. Backend mgmt tool [13:14:23] fak3r | conclusion_page-- [13:14:28] abarrera | hanz++ franz-- [13:14:29] scolford | "sorry, private party all night" [13:14:47] ejk | @sing beastie boys: pass the mike [13:15:12] gsf | don't give the toy to ed [13:15:28] ---| ---> asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b6f39e82fa1fe8f0] has joined #code4lib [13:15:42] zoia | ejk: No lyrics for pass the mike by beastie boys. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [13:15:59] timmcgeary | font++ [13:16:02] ---| ---> andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-263456565278e595] has joined #code4lib [13:16:04] BillDueber | put it away!!!!!!! [13:16:09] kgs | font_awareness++ [13:16:15] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3a60698ff173cdc2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:16:18] JodiS | @later tell mjgiarlo What point size is that font? [13:16:19] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. [13:16:19] timmcgeary | BillDueber: that's what she said [13:16:20] akorphan | asnagy: Do you pronounce it "Nooj" in the traditional Hungarian manner? [13:16:34] gsf | the lightsabre is for keeping us awake [13:16:46] rosy1280 | demonstrations are good...even when its just a pdf [13:16:59] asnagy | akorphan: no - i bastardize my last name and pronounce it in "american" [13:17:01] anarchivist | demos-- [13:17:01] ---| <<-- BLTnoTomato [i=837a6839@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cd863af55cd507d4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:17:11] anarchivist | failure++ [13:17:16] ecorrado | e-prints++ [13:17:18] ---| ---> cfitz [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-82.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:17:21] ranti | Wait, uh, no real sword involved there? [13:17:21] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-935ca7cb82c11ad1] has joined #code4lib [13:17:22] dlovins | "Throw up a PDF document" sounds painful. [13:17:23] scolford | throwing_up_pdf-- [13:17:33] anarchivist | i think i did that the weekend before last [13:17:40] abarrera | eating_pdf_w_bacon++ [13:17:42] JodiS | does somebody have a laser pointer? [13:17:43] akorphan | OK, I just got that the light saber is some kind of pun. Sheesh, slow today. [13:17:45] papo | JodiS: ok, thank you. Is it cool? [13:17:47] * JodiS is used to waving at the screen [13:17:53] mbklein | mjgiarlo has totally bought into the metaphor. [13:17:54] anarchivist | edsu-- [13:17:58] JodiS | papo: don't use it first hand. hard to tell. [13:18:01] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Matienzo, Mark: Go FOAF Yourself [13:18:03] jfereira | I have a laser pointer in my pocket and I'm not afraid to use it [13:18:05] MrDys | this is the year of sound effects [13:18:06] ---| ---> kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81eaea51016fbd65] has joined #code4lib [13:18:17] gsf | jfereira: use it [13:18:29] BigD | jfereira: dot his head! [13:18:37] rsinger | standards_schmandards [13:19:04] jrochkind100 | verde is NOT cool. [13:19:09] * jbrinley waits for the lightning talk on the schmandard standard [13:19:10] abarrera | @later tell mjgiarlo stop talking about your package [13:19:10] ---| <<-- abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [13:19:12] fak3r | a package could be a birthday present! [13:19:15] timmcgeary | perl++ [13:19:17] BillDueber | jrochkind100++, verde-- verde-- verde-- [13:19:20] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0acbc0dd513686a9] has joined #code4lib [13:19:21] JodiS | jrochkind100: more details? [13:19:22] fak3r | type it out, na, up arrow is all ya need [13:19:30] cbarr | verde-- [13:19:36] zoia | abarrera: The operation succeeded. [13:19:39] mbklein | fak3r: Step 2: Put your package in the box [13:19:42] akorphan | cazzerson: tell zoia your foaf uri [13:19:43] fak3r | cobra_verde++ [13:19:51] jfereira | waiting for him to use the sword... [13:19:51] jrochkind100 | JodiS: Exactly. It needs some more details. It doens't do anything. [13:19:53] fak3r | mbklein++ [13:19:54] MrDys | salsa_verde++ [13:19:56] scolford | mbklein++ [13:20:04] taco | cobra_commander++ [13:20:10] JodiS | jrochkind100: is it a structure that COULD be useful in the future? [13:20:13] BillDueber | jrochkind100: UMich officially gave up on Verde about a month ago. [13:20:15] anarchivist | going_commando++ [13:20:15] rsinger | destro++ [13:20:16] fak3r | contra2++ [13:20:22] rsinger | @whatis Destro [13:20:25] * JodiS thinks SUSHI harvesting support would be really good, if it's really coming [13:20:26] zoia | rsinger: subgroup: Iron Grenadiers
Star Brigade Armor Tech; function: Weapons supplier; debut: 1983; abstract: Destro is a fictional villain from G.I. Joe, a military-themed line of toys from Hasbro. He first appeared in the G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero line. He is portrayed by Christopher Eccleston in the motion picture set for release in 2009.; realname: Destro XXIV, James McCullen; (1 more message) [13:20:26] ---| <<-- eikeon_ [n=eikeon@pool-71-178-109-39.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit () [13:20:32] jrochkind100 | BillDueber: Wow, you gave up on it? That's big. [13:20:33] akorphan | @known nick uri [13:20:34] zoia | akorphan: (known []) -- Returns the URI associated with the given nick. Defaults to the calling user. If no nick given, returns a list of nicks which have an associated URI. [13:20:41] dbs | Ontario is close to giving up on Verde. [13:20:43] akorphan | err, @know nick uri [13:20:46] ---| ---> was [n=wschneid@65-112-121-29.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #code4lib [13:21:01] mbklein | @know [13:21:01] dbs | (at least, those poor sucker institutions that were piloting it) [13:21:02] zoia | mbklein: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [13:21:20] cazzerson | @know cazzerson http://www.monkey.org/~caz/foaf.rdf#jmcasden [13:21:21] BillDueber | jrochkind100: Yup. Our systems guys have already reclaimed the server. And I'm walkin' on sunshine (Yeah yeah!) [13:21:21] rsinger | reference_implementations_of_wildly_overblown_specs-- [13:21:22] zoia | cazzerson: cazzerson's URI is now [13:21:26] akorphan | @knows akorphan kazzerson [13:21:27] zoia | akorphan: I don't know kazzerson's URI [13:21:31] akorphan | @knows akorphan cazzerson [13:21:32] zoia | akorphan: akorphan does not know cazzerson, but cazzerson knows akorphan. [13:21:33] * fak3r images webuis [13:21:35] JodiS | @known [13:21:35] zoia JodiS: I know URIs for the following users: BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, akorphan, anarchivist, cazzerson, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jbrinley, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, mbklein, mjg_, rsinger, scolford, wickr, zoia [13:21:39] akorphan | hmm. [13:21:41] mbklein | @foaf cazzerson knows [13:21:43] zoia | mbklein: cazzerson : , , [13:21:51] anarchivist | @foaf anarchivist knows [13:21:53] pmurray | @know http://dltj.org/foaf/foaf.rdf#me [13:21:53] zoia | anarchivist: anarchivist : , , , , , , , , , (1 more message) [13:21:55] zoia | pmurray: pmurray's URI is now [13:21:57] jbrinley | @list foaf [13:21:58] zoia | jbrinley: common, foaf, forget, know, known, knows, and predicates [13:21:58] JodiS | hmm... A before a [13:21:59] lbjay | mbklein: FOAF_plugin++ [13:22:02] anarchivist | @more [13:22:02] akorphan | @foaf akorphan knows [13:22:02] zoia | anarchivist: , , , [13:22:04] zoia | akorphan: akorphan : [13:22:06] escowles | @know http://ticklefish.org/esme/foaf.rdf#escowles [13:22:06] zoia | escowles: escowles's URI is now [13:22:07] mib_xxmepy6r | cross swords [13:22:07] JodiS | @foaf predicates [13:22:08] zoia | JodiS: (foaf predicates ) -- Displays the relationships that have been asserted by the given nick about the other nick or URI. [13:22:11] pmurray | @foaf pmurray knows [13:22:13] zoia | pmurray: pmurray : "cwQaxxQq2377", "cwQaxxQq2380", "cwQaxxQq2378", "cwQaxxQq2382", "cwQaxxQq2375", "cwQaxxQq2381", "cwQaxxQq2374", "cwQaxxQq2376", "cwQaxxQq2383", "cwQaxxQq2373", "cwQaxxQq2379", "cwQaxxQq2384" [13:22:20] jbrinley | @common jbrinley mbklein pmurray [13:22:21] mbklein | yowza [13:22:22] zoia | jbrinley: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [13:22:25] JodiS | @foaf predicates jbrinley [13:22:26] cazzerson | anarchivist: I switched mine from foaf.xml to foaf.rdf to return proper mimetype [13:22:26] zoia | JodiS: (foaf predicates ) -- Displays the relationships that have been asserted by the given nick about the other nick or URI. [13:22:27] lbjay | blanknodes-- [13:22:32] jbrinley | @common jbrinley mbklein [13:22:33] zoia | jbrinley: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [13:22:34] mbklein | @common interest jbrinley mbklein pmurray [13:22:36] zoia | mbklein: , , [13:22:38] anarchivist | cazzerson: yeah, i'm lazy [13:22:39] fak3r | hey, sword sounds about as backwards compat as fedora-commons [13:22:46] rsinger | @foaf rsinger interest [13:22:46] jbrinley | @common zoia gsf [13:22:50] zoia | rsinger: rsinger : , , , , "library technology", [13:22:51] zoia | jbrinley: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [13:22:51] mbklein | jbrinley: The first argument has to be a foaf: predicate [13:22:54] timmcgeary | cup+fork++ [13:22:54] fak3r | *crickets* [13:23:01] ---| ---> steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bcff3c5d1b9442ae] has joined #code4lib [13:23:05] pmurray | lbjay: Blank nodes is why I got that odd result? [13:23:06] mbklein | @common [13:23:06] zoia | mbklein: (common , [, ...]) -- Returns the objects that all nicks have in common related to the given predicate. [13:23:10] jbrinley | @common interest zoia gsf [13:23:12] zoia | jbrinley: , [13:23:12] lbjay | it's the Death Roy! [13:23:16] ejk | sniper! [13:23:19] jrochkind100 | a knife and a fork, a bottle and a cork, that's the way you spell new york. [13:23:21] ---| ---> mib_bd21r8jm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c4cec282859f7be] has joined #code4lib [13:23:31] fak3r | jrochkind100++ [13:23:38] bess | anarchivist++ # just on general principle [13:23:41] mbklein | Please don't add royt's foaf back in. It keeps hurting zoia. [13:23:43] lbjay | this guy again... [13:23:49] mbklein | (Sorry, royt) [13:23:56] mbklein | @ana royt's foaf hurts zoia [13:23:57] zoia | mbklein: Hazy of riotous farts [13:24:03] mbklein | zoia-- [13:24:04] cazzerson | @knows akorphan [13:24:05] zoia | cazzerson: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [13:24:10] mib_xxmepy6r | loud [13:24:15] rosy1280 | very loud [13:24:17] MrDys | it always sounds like his last name is a ninja [13:24:22] akorphan | @known akorphan [13:24:22] zoia | akorphan: akorphan's URI is [13:24:24] ---| ---> liza31337 [i=root@tak.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [13:24:26] abarrera | mjgiarlo: there is bacon grease on my phone now [13:24:27] ---| ---> ethomsen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6719374a2afee366] has joined #code4lib [13:24:28] BigD | ninja boots [13:24:29] jrochkind100 | instead, I'm going to do my stand up routine. [13:24:31] charper | @know http://harper.bobst.nyu.edu/data/foaf.rdf#me [13:24:32] fak3r | this was one of the talks I wanted to see....thought it was a cool idea [13:24:32] zoia | charper: charper's URI is now [13:24:36] gsf | anarchivist works the crowd [13:24:37] mib_ta2hma | anarchivist kicks a hole in the speaker, pulls the plug, then he jets. [13:24:39] timmcgeary | rock the mic [13:24:40] liza31337 | omg finally [13:24:44] ---| User: *** mib_ta2hma is now known as mjg_ [13:24:45] robcaSSon | back to the lab [13:24:48] mbklein | @knows mbklein charper [13:24:48] fak3r | knee_high_boots++ [13:24:50] zoia | mbklein: mbklein and charper do not know each other. [13:24:52] robcaSSon | w/o a mic to grab [13:25:02] abarrera | i hope he doesn't start singing Barry Manilow songs [13:25:03] BillDueber | one_slide_talk++ [13:25:04] fak3r | click 'next' [13:25:08] mbklein | holy crap, jbrinley, the thing actually works as advertised. :D [13:25:23] jbrinley | mbklein++ [13:25:27] BigD | "Oh Mandy...!" [13:25:34] * kat3 will be taking pictures of *every* slide on this presentation [13:25:37] fak3r | ead-- # apparently [13:25:40] rosy1280 | barry was here in providence a couple of weeks ago [13:25:51] timmcgeary | barry_manilow++ [13:25:54] erikhatcher | glen newton in here? [13:25:54] dchud | reporting_negative_results++ [13:26:02] BigD | barry_manilow++ [13:26:05] ecorrado | dchud: agreed [13:26:07] erikhatcher | for glen: http://blogs.sun.com/searchguy/entry/indexing_an_sql_database_or [13:26:08] BigD | REO++ [13:26:13] ecorrado | anarchivist++ [13:26:14] mbklein | Barry recorded a cover of "Never Gonna Give You Up" last year. [13:26:19] MrDys | I keep thinking that anarchivist is going to scream into the mic like Henry ROllins [13:26:19] rosy1280 | fanillows++ [13:26:27] mjg_ | abarrera++ # for making that presentation a success [13:26:37] ---| <<-- ahagenbruch [n=chatzill@leto.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0/2008052912]") [13:26:41] BigD | countdown to c4l09's first rickroll [13:26:46] abarrera | mjgiarlo: only cause c4l has low standards for you [13:26:48] taco | henry rollins++ [13:26:55] MrDys | s/standards/tolerance/ [13:26:59] akorphan | @knows akorphan cazzerson [13:26:59] zoia | akorphan: akorphan and cazzerson know each other. [13:27:03] BigD | mjg_ success? [13:27:04] ---| <<-- cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-40387e845bdfa980] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:27:04] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-935ca7cb82c11ad1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:27:18] mbklein | @common knows akorphan cazzerson [13:27:20] bess | how do you tell zoia about a foaf file? [13:27:20] zoia | mbklein: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [13:27:23] JodiS | kat3: they'll also be up at http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule eventually [13:27:27] mib_xxmepy6r | lolcat slides this year so far = 0 [13:27:31] JodiS | anarchavist++ #best photos ever [13:27:31] mbklein | @know [13:27:32] zoia | mbklein: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [13:27:33] ---| ---> Hammer [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f887ee3d68bf261b] has joined #code4lib [13:27:33] kgs | bess @know [13:27:33] fak3r | mjg_ so it sounds like backwards compat isn't part of sword? [13:27:36] mjg_ | BigD: yeah, man, there's like this pile of bacon back here. in absence of accolades, bacon is acceptable. [13:27:36] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44b3b922fb54b198] has joined #code4lib [13:27:39] wtd | @knows wtd ksclarke [13:27:40] zoia | wtd: I don't know wtd's URI [13:27:53] ---| ---> fdadf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d5f3f1fbf5e8abbc] has joined #code4lib [13:27:58] bess | @know www.ibiblio.org/bess/foaf.rdf#me [13:27:58] zoia | bess: Error: 'www.ibiblio.org/bess/foaf.rdf#me' is not a valid url. [13:28:02] fak3r | I can haz interns? (no) [13:28:03] mjg_ | fak3r: it's still fairly newish [13:28:07] bess | @know www.ibiblio.org/bess/foaf.rdf [13:28:07] zoia | bess: Error: 'www.ibiblio.org/bess/foaf.rdf' is not a valid url. [13:28:10] * jtgorman sighs at a librarian from another CARLI school who will go unname who sent an email to us complaining about stuff in our catalog [13:28:12] bess | d'oh [13:28:12] mbklein | bess: include the http:// [13:28:25] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9bd0c848f2bb606b] has joined #code4lib [13:28:25] akorphan | @common [13:28:25] bess | @know http://www.ibiblio.org/bess/foaf.rdf#me [13:28:26] zoia | akorphan: (common , [, ...]) -- Returns the objects that all nicks have in common related to the given predicate. [13:28:27] jtgorman | gee...folks...could you stop complaining to us and complain to CARLI...please? [13:28:27] zoia | bess: bess's URI is now [13:28:30] fak3r | gross [13:28:34] gsf | grossest pb&j ever [13:28:36] MikeTaylor | Write your talk, Seb! [13:28:40] dchud | congealed blood and mustard sandwich! [13:28:46] JodiS | jtgorman: could you stop complaining to us and complain to somebody who can change the system? [13:28:49] jtgorman | otherwise I'm just going to keep complaining to other random people ;) [13:28:50] abarrera | @know http://barr.eraic.us/foaf.rdf#me [13:28:50] zoia | abarrera: abarrera's URI is now [13:28:51] wtd | @know http://www.miskaonic.org/foaf.rdf#me [13:28:51] fak3r | git++ [13:28:52] zoia | wtd: wtd's URI is now [13:28:56] * BillDueber is also too stupid to use git [13:28:56] wtd | Oops. [13:28:58] JodiS | <-- random person [13:29:00] wtd | @know http://www.miskatonic.org/foaf.rdf#me [13:29:01] jtgorman | JodiS: aawwww, you beat me to my own punchline [13:29:01] zoia | wtd: wtd's URI is now [13:29:03] * mbklein too [13:29:04] bess | @knows bess JodiS [13:29:07] zoia | bess: bess and JodiS do not know each other. [13:29:10] rsinger | thank god somebody said this [13:29:11] jtgorman | JodiS: nah, don't worry, I'll do that too ;) [13:29:16] Baroquem | @know http://abacus.webhop.org/foaf.rdf#me [13:29:17] zoia | Baroquem: Baroquem's URI is now [13:29:19] akorphan | @common knows akorphan cazzerson [13:29:20] zoia | akorphan: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [13:29:22] JodiS | @know bess [13:29:23] zoia | JodiS: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [13:29:29] dchud | beezer represent [13:29:30] gsf | git has gotten easier [13:29:31] mjg_ | beeeeeeeeeezer [13:29:32] liza31337 | Totally agree with hg > git [13:29:33] fak3r | oh, so it has to be in python? [13:29:33] jtgorman | JodiS: but there is an actual point to my complaint... [13:29:34] ecorrado | overkill-- [13:29:38] JodiS | @known bess [13:29:38] zoia | JodiS: bess's URI is [13:29:48] edsu | git++ [13:29:48] gsf | fak3r: a python bias is ok [13:29:51] jtgorman | JodiS: it's always shocking ot me how little the librarians who work here and elsewhere understand how our technology stack works [13:29:52] fak3r | I used to run cvs servers for it groups; I now perfer git [13:29:52] edsu | anarchivist-- [13:29:54] BigD | @know http://www.declan.net/foaf.rdf#djf [13:29:55] zoia | BigD: BigD's URI is now [13:29:58] jbrinley | @common knows jbrinley zoia [13:30:00] zoia | jbrinley: , , , , , , , , [13:30:01] * JodiS adds bess' URI to her broken FOAF [13:30:07] edsu | anarchivist: returning the compliment :) [13:30:10] robcaSSon | anarchivist has contracted my stuttering [13:30:12] akorphan | @knows cazzerson akorphan [13:30:13] * lbjay imagines "bizarre" would be a tough sell to higher up dev managers [13:30:13] zoia | akorphan: cazzerson and akorphan know each other. [13:30:16] jtgorman | JodiS: that is, what we have actual control over, what is provided by CARLI, and what is under the control of the actual software [13:30:16] mjg_ | @later tell anarchivist "HG" is easier to say than "mercurial" [13:30:17] fak3r | I'm indiffernt on monotone [13:30:17] zoia | mjg_: The operation succeeded. [13:30:25] JodiS | jtgorman: honestly, I don't care [13:30:26] akorphan | @common knows cazzerson akorphan [13:30:26] zoia | akorphan: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [13:30:27] highermath_co | screw git svn 4evr [13:30:30] bess | @knows bess royt [13:30:31] zoia | bess: I don't know royt's URI [13:30:32] akorphan | OK, something funny is going on. [13:30:35] MrDys | anarchivist is making the camera intern earn his scrilla [13:30:35] mib_xxmepy6r | great looking rat [13:30:36] jtgorman | JodiS: heh [13:30:39] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b489c681dcfa0ab4] has joined #code4lib [13:30:43] fak3r | hmmm...so, python good, rat logo, bad. [13:30:43] escowles | rats-- [13:30:47] edsu | is that jaegermeister (sic)? [13:30:47] mbklein | @known JodiS [13:30:48] zoia | mbklein: JodiS's URI is [13:30:50] JodiS | jtgorman: may sound funny, but I'm dead serious [13:30:52] mjg_ | edsu: totally. [13:30:56] dchud | dlovins: i'd promised to send you this: http://bazaar-vcs.org/Workflows (overview of dvcs workflows) [13:30:57] fak3r | edsu: y [13:30:59] escowles | python++ [13:31:03] * edsu upchucks [13:31:06] mjg_ | edsu: right after it defeated me in dishonorable combat. [13:31:06] zoia | clean up on aisle 2 [13:31:09] mbklein | @knows mbklein bess [13:31:12] zoia | mbklein: mbklein and bess know each other. [13:31:12] dchud | dlovins: it's on the bazaar site but the overview applies to all the dvcses [13:31:15] jtgorman | JodiS: well, then put me on /ignore or something [13:31:31] JodiS | jtgorman: I like you. I don't want to /ignore you. [13:31:33] akorphan | cazzerson: oh, it excludes the endpoints. Can a person foaf:knows thyself? [13:31:33] * JodiS shrugs [13:31:34] mjg_ | dchud: I should have thanked you as well. my bad. [13:31:36] highermath_co | Python++ Python&Jaegermeister++++++++ [13:31:52] JodiS | lovely, lovely slide colors [13:32:02] mbklein | @common interest mbklein bess [13:32:04] zoia | mbklein: , , [13:32:09] ---| <<-- MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44b3b922fb54b198] has quit (Client Quit) [13:32:09] ---| <<-- mpark [n=mpark@128.148.216.27] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:32:13] fak3r | blain? that's not a name, it's a major appliance! [13:32:32] mbklein | fak3r++ # Pretty in Pink reference [13:32:40] jtgorman | I do wonder though if there's any good way to make it easier to get people to go to the right source....I mean, at least the librairans [13:32:48] bess | philosophy_majors++ [13:32:49] BigD | English Major [13:32:54] gsf | @knows gsf gsf [13:32:55] akorphan | @knows akorphan akorphan [13:32:56] zoia | gsf: gsf and gsf do not know each other. [13:32:56] mbklein | <-- Music Major [13:32:58] zoia | akorphan: akorphan and akorphan do not know each other. [13:32:58] rsinger | theatre_major [13:33:02] MrDys | saaaaaad pug [13:33:04] wtd | @knows wtd ksclarke [13:33:05] akorphan | gsf: You owe me a coke. [13:33:05] zoia | wtd: wtd and ksclarke know each other. [13:33:05] fak3r | <-- art major [13:33:08] mib_xxmepy6r | <--- philosophy major [13:33:09] timmcgeary | mbklein++ [13:33:12] timmcgeary | <-- music major [13:33:15] mbklein | gsf / akorphan: If you don't assert it, zoia don't know it. :) [13:33:15] gsf | akorphan: ok [13:33:16] mjg_ | <-- major morno [13:33:16] edsu | never made it past 3rd grade [13:33:17] rosy1280 | <--philosophy minor [13:33:20] cbarr | <-- art major [13:33:22] gsf | mbklein: right [13:33:27] lbjay | <-- english major [13:33:28] dchud | mjg_: i will carry this grudge with me to my grave. TO. MY. GRAVE. [13:33:28] ---| ---> cliff_ [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [13:33:31] erikhatcher | usually its more comical xml than canonical [13:33:34] mbklein | mjg_: Master of Morno? [13:33:35] fak3r | <---- major domo [13:33:38] abarrera | mjgiarlo++ # morno [13:33:39] BillDueber | <-- CS major (am I the only one in the house?) [13:33:40] liza31337 | <-- psych major [13:33:41] ---| <<-- cwulfman [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [13:33:44] mbklein | @ana master of morno [13:33:45] zoia | mbklein: Am softer moron [13:33:48] * lbjay salutes Major Morno, mjg_ [13:33:49] fak3r | beer_pong++ [13:33:51] erikhatcher | BillDueber: CS major also [13:33:51] abarrera | <-- ee major [13:33:53] jtgorman | BillDueber: nope, CS major as well. Of course, I'm "not in the house" [13:33:54] taco | <- pol sci [13:33:55] dlovins | @google canonical xml [13:33:56] rsinger | @ana morno for myros [13:33:56] zoia | dlovins: Search took 0.24 seconds: Canonical XML: ; Canonical XML Version 1.0: ; Canonical XML: ; Canonical XML - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Introducing XML canonical form: ; Canonical XML: (2 more messages) [13:33:58] zoia | rsinger: Sorry! From moon [13:33:58] mouwd | <-- cs major [13:34:02] edsu | dchud: sorry i couldn't do teh entire snl skit, would've been bettter than me saying things i would later regret [13:34:02] jtgorman | BillDueber: if you mean code4lib ;) [13:34:03] mjg_ | <-- linguistics major, philosophy minor, LIS sucker, compling dropout [13:34:06] fak3r | python mention' [13:34:06] jtgorman | just #code4lib [13:34:08] steambadger | English major, philosophy minor [13:34:09] MrDys | <-- -"IT" major [13:34:10] fak3r | python mention' [13:34:12] erikhatcher | liza31337: but with a pysch minor [13:34:21] andyashton | <--Drum major [13:34:25] BillDueber | jtgorman: You're in the house. We're a big-tent organization. [13:34:27] mbklein | We should all put our majors in our FOAFs and let zoia sort it out. [13:34:30] timmcgeary | <-- engineering ms [13:34:32] fak3r | <-- major headache [13:34:33] abarrera | <-- major payne [13:34:36] mjg_ | JUnit's newest album sucks. [13:34:40] escowles | <-- English major [13:34:41] BillDueber | mbklein++ # what's the correct tag? [13:34:51] rsinger | @karma < [13:34:52] dchud | mjg_, edsu: hey maybe i should do a lightning on bagit? [13:34:53] zoia | rsinger: Karma for "<" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. [13:34:53] akorphan | <-- math major, english minor, religion minor, MSLS [13:34:55] fak3r | too_many_bookmarks-- [13:34:56] JodiS | delicious.com/anarchivist/xml+diffs [13:35:06] * jtgorman never concentrated enough to ge ta minor [13:35:06] * highermath_c staqrted as dual physics/ee --- has ba Psych [13:35:09] mjg_ | dchud++ # why not? and give a reference to our crappy sourceforce page [13:35:12] edsu | dchud++ [13:35:16] mib_xxmepy6r | elvi? [13:35:16] JodiS | err, that didn't work. spelling of diffs? [13:35:19] mbklein | BillDueber: Probably have to use literals. I don't know which vocab/resource set would apply. [13:35:26] akorphan | elvoi? [13:35:28] highermath_co | it wss the 60's [13:35:37] dchud | mjg_, edsu: maybe i will do it as samurai john belushi. if i could borrow your sword. [13:35:40] ---| ---> E [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49d037bad0a5e8d2] has joined #code4lib [13:35:46] mjg_ | I would express those in FABULOUSml [13:35:50] wickr | JodiS: http://delicious.com/anarchivist/xml+diff [13:35:52] mib_xxmepy6r | lol [13:35:54] BigD | mjg_++ [13:35:59] jbrinley | @quote add Say all these Elvis impersonators are XML documents. [13:36:00] dchud | E: welcome. great nick. :) [13:36:01] zoia | jbrinley: The operation succeeded. Quote #1726 added. [13:36:07] JodiS | wickr++ [13:36:07] ---| User: *** E is now known as Guest76608 [13:36:09] fak3r | dchud: hamburger, hamburger, no coke, pepsi [13:36:16] mjg_ | dchud: my sword is thine, sir knight. [13:36:24] BigD | fak3r: cheeeebuger [13:36:26] mbklein | @foaf mbklein schoolHomepage [13:36:27] zoia | mbklein: mbklein : , [13:36:37] MrDys | dchud: you end up making anything in nodebox last night? [13:36:43] dchud | seems like he could've used an EAD doctype in wordperfect or word and dvcs'd them as binary files [13:36:53] * jtgorman eye twitches [13:36:59] dchud | MrDys: nah, nothing interesting, just doing tutorials [13:37:01] jtgorman | whaaa... [13:37:06] ---| <<-- mikeybe [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b489c681dcfa0ab4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:37:07] ---| <<-- gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-25cbd11af6d6759a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:37:07] jtgorman | ok, maybe I'm glad I'm not there [13:37:08] lbjay | xml-- # for making anarchivist fail [13:37:08] * wickr shudders at mention of EAD with WP and WOrd [13:37:19] fak3r | macro_pictures++ [13:37:22] mjg_ | jtgorman: no, you're not. [13:37:22] ---| ---> jamieorc [n=jamieorc@va-71-1-140-208.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #code4lib [13:37:24] edsu | (i tried to do this in 5 minutes, and couldn't do it) [13:37:37] dchud | wickr: if done well, it can be pretty productive [13:37:42] BigD | anarchivist just needs a hug [13:37:50] abarrera | puppies++ # that dog knows he foaf'd up [13:37:55] gsf | BigD: squeeze the fail out of him [13:37:59] bess | jamieorc: hi! We're all at the code4lib conference in RI! [13:38:00] wickr | dchud: but I still don't think that gets anarchivist what he wants [13:38:07] ---| <<-- ccatalfo [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0836f6b50c83f47b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:38:12] dchud | THEY DO NAHTHINK! [13:38:17] jamieorc | bess so says erikhatcher [13:38:25] dchud | wickr: maybe so [13:38:30] ecorrado | anarchivist: FAIL!!!!! [13:38:33] mbklein | <-- Guitar Zero [13:38:34] jtgorman | mjg_: dchud is scaring me even here [13:38:36] liza31337 | Yay Rock Band [13:38:41] fak3r | we'll look into it and get back to you on that [13:38:55] dchud | wow 120 users [13:38:56] * mbklein got a little addicted to Rock Band @ Access2008 [13:39:02] akorphan | fait_no_more++ [13:39:07] ---| <<-- erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bb69171c5ba10c4e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:39:07] ---| <<-- highermath_code4 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-35268f637410f266] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:39:18] taco | mike_patton++ [13:39:32] mjg_ | fail_no_more++ [13:39:40] mbklein | Is this about EAD, DVCS, or diffs? :s [13:39:49] mib_xxmepy6r | it's about fail [13:39:52] dchud | chickmarkley: the upcoming libx talk might be another good place to find interesting javascript [13:39:53] andyashton | namespaces don't work in EAD?? [13:40:00] mbklein | That's OK, Mark. You must be exhausted. [13:40:06] rsinger | 20 minutes of shame [13:40:07] ---| <<-- ethomsen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6719374a2afee366] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:40:08] fak3r | YHF [13:40:12] jbrinley | andyashton: I'm not sure anything works in EAD [13:40:15] mbklein | The long, slow walk to the mic. [13:40:16] timmcgeary | no shame in trying [13:40:23] * BillDueber is hearing the jeopardy music in his head [13:40:23] BigD | mbklein rockin out: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2931454621/in/set-72157607933737792/ [13:40:26] rsinger | andyashton: i don't think the DTD allows things to be namespaced in [13:40:35] andyashton | really...ouch [13:40:38] ---| <--- jamieorc [n=jamieorc@va-71-1-140-208.sta.embarqhsd.net] has left #code4lib () [13:40:46] andyashton | DTDs-- [13:40:48] wickr | I think they're working on it for the schema [13:40:52] * jaron1 is dealing with EAD right now [13:40:54] jaron1 | ead-- [13:40:57] ---| User: *** jaron1 is now known as jaron_ [13:40:58] BillDueber | Key phrase in question: "...in some intelligent way." [13:40:59] mbklein | BigD++ # capturing the debut and final performance of The Mornos [13:41:02] rsinger | @quote search ead [13:41:05] zoia rsinger: 79 found: #1014: " I could make an argument that...", #1018: " if edsu hasn't already slaughtered a...", #1043: " marc's been dead for years. the...", #1058: " Since we are not likely...", #1075: " yeah, he's got an impressive CV but I...", #1099: "< edsu> mjg_: after reading that wikipedia on...", #1130: " now i know how code4lib felt, now i know...", (10 more messages) [13:41:12] ---| ---> caroldotou_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-acd0582926a814cb] has joined #code4lib [13:41:15] rosy1280 | ead-- [13:41:19] cfitz | so why use EAD? [13:41:20] rsinger | @quote search monkeys [13:41:22] abarrera | gsf: what was the name of your crappy Rock Band Band [13:41:23] zoia | rsinger: 8 found: #1010: " I don't know what that means, but,...", #128: " you have spoiled me forever with your...", #300: " ead is like the worst application of...", #301: "* ksclark1 wonders why amish monkeys", #355: "< mjgiarlo> Users want... drunken monkeys,...", #393: " sometimes the monkeys' howling forces...", #7: " heard a team of monkeys that played...", and #956: " (1 more message) [13:41:30] gsf | abarrera: which one? [13:41:34] mbklein | cfitz: because someone's forcing you to. [13:41:35] jtgorman | cfitz: cause he works with archivists and that's what they want to use? [13:41:36] rsinger | @quote get 956 [13:41:37] zoia | rsinger: Error: There is no Quote with id #956 in my database for #code4lib. [13:41:44] jaron_ | mbklein++ [13:41:51] akorphan | Are the tags in EAD broken up into inline markup and hierarchical data in a well-defined way? [13:41:53] MrDys | @more rsinger [13:41:53] zoia | MrDys: at the end of the day, we're an irc..." [13:41:55] abarrera | gsf: the one from Access [13:41:56] rsinger | @quote get 300 [13:41:57] zoia | rsinger: Quote #300: " ead is like the worst application of technology ever thrown in the hands of amish monkeys" (added by dchud at 05:47 PM, May 12, 2006) [13:41:57] mbklein | rsinger: That seems wrong. [13:42:04] timmcgeary | there are lots of grants out there that require EAD [13:42:04] ---| <<-- cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5ae318f4f2d6b449] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:42:07] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bcff3c5d1b9442ae] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:42:08] ---| <<-- ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2059fc3e505fad80] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:42:16] rosy1280 | because the archivist wants you too [13:42:16] rsinger | akorphan: no [13:42:35] rosy1280 | and they won't stop pushing [13:42:43] BigD | mbklein: here's the front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2931456655/in/set-72157607933737792/ [13:42:51] rsinger | akorphan: there are

tags and data elements all intermingled [13:42:55] * mbklein has the post-lunch sleepies. [13:42:57] gsf | abarrera: i don't remember. Access is a blur [13:43:02] MrDys | wheedlie wheedlie wheeee [13:43:04] mbklein | Crickets [13:43:07] rsinger | i am so freaking thirsty [13:43:08] ---| <<-- mouwd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-19163e015c560779] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:43:17] gsf | rsinger: no water allowed [13:43:17] rosy1280 | rsinger water in back of room [13:43:19] rsinger | ...enter my nemesis [13:43:20] mjg_ | rsinger: there's water in the back [13:43:20] BillDueber | rsinger: I'm gonna go get a coke. Want one? [13:43:23] akorphan | rsinger: Right, but is it known a priori which types of tags represent markup and which types represent data enclosures? [13:43:24] mjg_ | rosy1280++ [13:43:36] mbklein | BillDueber: I'll take one. [13:43:37] mbklein | :) [13:43:37] fak3r | stage_rush++ [13:43:37] fak3r | git diff file1 file2 [13:43:37] mjg_ | rsinger: GUARD YOUR THROAT [13:43:38] ---| ---> highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-05c049b9287b4f73] has joined #code4lib [13:43:46] rosy1280 | more accents! [13:43:46] mbklein | godmar++ [13:43:48] ---| <--- ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4491d74171cfe767] has left #code4lib () [13:43:50] BillDueber | mbklein: where are you? [13:43:52] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4491d74171cfe767] has joined #code4lib [13:43:57] rsinger | akorphan: sure, but the dom gets insane to walk/parse [13:43:57] ---| <<-- MattyM [n=matt@62.172.77.66] has quit ("ta ta") [13:44:04] mbklein | BillDueber: Table near the mic. Across from ejlynema [13:44:05] jbrinley | This has been a surprisingly punctual conference so far (not counting pre-conf) [13:44:06] ---| ---> mib_qg0sa564 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b91875f2104822ee] has joined #code4lib [13:44:08] ---| <<-- cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0acbc0dd513686a9] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:44:08] ---| <<-- decasm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6da0940b784399da] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:44:11] lbjay | oh, that's godmar [13:44:18] * anarchivist coughs [13:44:21] * zoia sneezes [13:44:29] rsinger | akorphan: because you can't just render the 'text', you have to make sure there's not more in there [13:44:29] ---| User: *** mib_qg0sa564 is now known as mouwd [13:44:32] wtd | libx++ [13:44:39] anarchivist | mjg_: smartass [13:44:44] mbklein | Godmar has to have the best Bond Villain name of anyone at the conference. [13:44:44] mjg_ | anarchivist++ # for sharing tales of epic fail [13:44:53] rsinger | "No, Mr. Singer, I expect you to die!" [13:44:54] fak3r | the page has a DUI? [13:44:56] mbklein | akorphan: You might be a close second. :) [13:45:01] rosy1280 | want libx to not be browser dependent [13:45:04] ---| ---> mib_40vroc [i=c0991efe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-29c9a7ff3326dcce] has joined #code4lib [13:45:23] dansuchy | libx is great because anyone can pick it up. [13:45:28] mjg_ | did I just hear someone whisper "Wag the Dog, MOFO!" [13:45:29] rsinger | rosy1280: IE and FFX isn't enough? [13:45:36] akorphan | hmm, maybe one could mark out the elements that are purely markup, replace the brackets with some distinctive set of characters; run an XML diff on the hierarchical parts, and run an inline diff on the text contents of the hierarchical tags (with the markup tags marked out) [13:45:39] BigD | did zotero ever get extended to store it's data in a central server? [13:45:40] Kerwick | fak3r, no conviction though [13:45:47] rosy1280 | rsinger i want it in the cloud [13:45:52] rsinger | mjg_: i have buried this hatchet [13:45:56] mbklein | BigD: In trunk, but not in release [13:46:03] MrDys | godmar has the voice of at least 50 ruby screencasts I've watched [13:46:04] rsinger | rosy1280: ... ARE YOU TRYING TO RILE ME UP?! [13:46:09] dbs | BigD: 1.5 beta (with multi-machine sync) is out [13:46:09] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5eec8476078b309] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:46:10] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7130217ec74416b8] has joined #code4lib [13:46:18] BigD | thanks! [13:46:19] * rosy1280 cloud computing fellow [13:46:22] ---| <<-- cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7130217ec74416b8] has quit (Client Quit) [13:46:33] gsf | dbs: can't believe you're following this [13:46:48] gsf | dbs: i'm getting a headache, and i have some context [13:47:05] dbs | gsf: bah, I was on a conference call about "knowledge mobilization" for the entire morning [13:47:17] abarrera | dbs: why aren't you here? forget your passport again? [13:47:21] * anarchivist knows the world loves a sensible man who admits failure [13:47:22] BigD | knowledge wants to be mobile! [13:47:25] mbklein | ordering_lemonade_via_irc++ [13:47:28] mbklein | BillDueber++ [13:47:37] timmcgeary | anarchivist++ [13:47:38] scolford | when godmar says "toolbar" i keep thinking "tuber" [13:47:38] dbs | gsf: and the main report on "knowledge mobilization" was published at a URL to which Google knows of no links. FAIL FAIL FAILITY FAIL [13:47:39] abarrera | BigD: shame you are weighing it down [13:47:51] jbrinley | anarchivist: we're working on your pyre now [13:47:51] rsinger | rosy1280: the beginning of the nemetization started with my cloud-style app vs. LibX [13:47:54] dbs | abarrera: 2 month old baby. murderous wife. [13:47:57] gsf | dbs: ha of course [13:48:03] BillDueber | scolford: sweet potatoes++ [13:48:09] ---| ---> reeset [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f42de96452e31201] has joined #code4lib [13:48:12] abarrera | dbs++ # been there [13:48:12] anarchivist | french_fried_taters++ [13:48:15] fak3r | new_edition++ [13:48:15] * fak3r ready for more talk about rest [13:48:22] BillDueber | dbs: I left my 2.5 and 0.5 year olds at home with a slightly less-murderous wife [13:48:23] jfereira | users_with_magic_wands++ [13:48:38] highermath | its not a tuber, just a keadache [13:48:39] rsinger | librarians_with_magic_wands+- [13:48:44] ---| <<-- mib_40vroc [i=c0991efe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-29c9a7ff3326dcce] has quit (Client Quit) [13:48:47] timmcgeary | i left my 2.5 and 0.33 year olds at home... [13:49:01] * anarchivist wants a stiff drink now [13:49:02] timmcgeary | highermath++ [13:49:08] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: monotone: distributed version control || del.icio.us: Canonical XML - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia || del.icio.us: Mibbit || del.icio.us: Flickr: "c4l09" || del.icio.us: anarchivist's xml and diff Bookmarks on Delicious || del.icio.us: libxml [13:49:16] dbs | Next year, in @hosts2010, I shall have no excuses [13:49:17] mjg_ | anarchivist: +1 [13:49:24] kgs | where's my magic wand?! [13:49:29] anarchivist | @bartender [13:49:31] * jbrinley hands anarchivist a popsicle [13:49:31] * zoia fills a pint glass with Saison Dupont, and sends it sliding down the bar to anarchivist (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/637/1717/) [13:49:36] * anarchivist wants a pony [13:49:38] BigD | my 13 yr old insisted i leave [13:49:38] MrDys | edsu: see what happens when you quote someone in your presentation: http://twitter.com/tommorris/statuses/1245906526 [13:49:41] rosy1280 | rsinger cloud style apps are way better because then people use it [13:49:42] * mbklein 's 6 and 3 year olds *promised* to behave while I was gone. So I'm sure there are no problems. [13:49:44] MrDys | what unholy wrath you have brought [13:49:47] * anarchivist was hoping to show a magic django pony [13:49:57] mjg_ | jbrinley++ # clever. [13:49:58] rosy1280 | libx-- [13:50:04] * rosy1280 about to get shot [13:50:09] * timmcgeary wonders what he can take back to my 2.5 year old girl from Providence [13:50:12] JodiS | rosy1280: you're researching cloud-computing, right? [13:50:13] rsinger | rosy1280: no argument [13:50:31] ---| ---> LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@50.sub-75-221-209.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [13:50:35] rosy1280 | JodiS that i am...officially now [13:50:38] ---| ---> doylem [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3fa0191caee571ab] has joined #code4lib [13:50:39] JodiS | :) [13:50:45] BigD | anarchivist: http://www.declan.net/2005/07/22/no-pony/ [13:50:51] * rosy1280 NITLE Tech Fellow [13:50:53] JodiS | rosy1280: met you at necode4lib. sorry that you left before I could say hello [13:50:56] gsf | godmar_humor++ [13:50:56] JodiS | NITLE++ [13:50:58] mjg_ | is 2009 the year of atompub like, uh, every other year was the year of solr? [13:51:02] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ba1c32a8db6a3d69] has joined #code4lib [13:51:07] kgs | rosy1280 agree w/u [13:51:07] abarrera | timmcgeary: whatever you find let me know for my 2.7 yr old girl [13:51:08] fak3r | new_edition++ [13:51:08] * fak3r ready for more talk about rest [13:51:08] fak3r | damn, I need to get a magic wand to use at work...that'll really hlpe [13:51:08] fak3r | s/hipe/help/ [13:51:09] JodiS | 2009=atompub + linkeddata [13:51:11] gsf | mjg_: there was a year of lucene, way back [13:51:28] kgs | adoption, marketing, maintenance... [13:51:29] dchud | edsu, gsf: i'm finally working on that json import/export for marc again. i'd like to touch base with one/both of you on what it would need to do before you'd merge it w/trunk [13:51:31] rsinger | libraries: we get it! (eventually) [13:51:31] rosy1280 | JodiS had to go to a meeting...loved necode4lib [13:51:34] ecorrado | atompub < brewpub [13:51:37] dchud | edsu, gsf: i mean for pymarc [13:51:38] mjg_ | back when royt was in short-thongs [13:51:41] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e40804a29ca6ccc6] has joined #code4lib [13:51:43] scolford | c4l10 -- no tee shirts, magic wands [13:51:43] timmcgeary | abarerra: will do [13:51:50] JodiS | rosy1280: that's ok, I'll find you here sometime :) [13:51:51] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-675a17b9475ee7c1] has joined #code4lib [13:51:52] mbklein | anarchivist: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2052/2842638666_b24158c6f6.jpg [13:51:59] timmcgeary | abarerra: I think I'll need to wander the mall [13:52:00] gsf | dchud: great, i'd like to see it [13:52:08] fak3r | new_edition++ [13:52:08] * fak3r ready for more talk about rest [13:52:08] fak3r | damn, I need to get a magic wand to use at work...that'll really hlpe [13:52:08] fak3r | s/hipe/help/ [13:52:10] ---| <<-- highermath [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-05c049b9287b4f73] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:52:14] rosy1280 | tuple! [13:52:17] BillDueber | dchud: What are you using for marc-in-json? I made one up a while back, but if there's weight behind a json format for marc, I'd rather use it [13:52:21] dchud | gsf: don't get your hopes up, it will start brain-dead simple. [13:52:25] abarrera | timmcgeary: jstroop said nothing there [13:52:26] gsf | dchud: so it's a jsonmarc? [13:52:27] kgs | tuple-o honey? [13:52:28] * anarchivist goes to lick his wounds in the corner [13:52:35] dchud | BillDueber: the dumbest, simplest thing that might possibly work! [13:52:36] scolford | tuber tuple [13:52:40] bess | anarchivist++ # you were awesome [13:52:41] gsf | dchud: simple is hard, sometimes [13:52:46] jfereira | Shouldn't that be spelled Djangle [13:52:48] timmcgeary | abarrera: well that stinks [13:52:51] BillDueber | dchud: Well, then that's probably what I did :-) [13:52:54] rsinger | why is jsonmarc a good idea? [13:52:58] mjg_ | dchud++ # for dumb and simple, the only way I roll [13:53:00] dchud | gsf: agreed. hopefully i can at least get it started and then we can improve it [13:53:03] * rosy1280 remembers arguments in db class about how to pronounce tuple [13:53:05] anarchivist | use your django jangle dongle to stick a tuple in drupal [13:53:11] ---| <<-- kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ce5df61548437476] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:53:18] dbs | @quote add BillDueber: the dumbest, simplest thing that might possibly work! [13:53:18] LibraryThingT | ... [13:53:18] zoia | dbs: The operation succeeded. Quote #1727 added. [13:53:19] lbjay | rsinger: burn! [13:53:20] scolford | anarchivist++ [13:53:25] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [13:53:27] rjw | faster than a speeding Jangle [13:53:28] dbs | poor BillDueber [13:53:33] dchud | rsinger: easier than rdfmarc. easy to use with couchdb. easy to pass around ajaxy. theoretically manageable in a VCS with canonical pretty-printing. something to hack on. [13:53:39] mbklein | @quote add use your django jangle dongle to stick a tuple in drupal [13:53:40] zoia | mbklein: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [13:53:54] mbklein | @quote add use your django jangle dongle to stick a tuple in drupal [13:53:54] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Quote #1728 added. [13:54:05] ---| <<-- motorgirl [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c11f93092b4fdb3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:54:05] dchud | s/rdfmarc/marcxml/ [13:54:06] rosy1280 | rsinger does your cloudy libx like app still exist somewhere? 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[13:54:45] dchud | BillDueber: no i haven't [13:54:45] gsf | aah, the librarian is talking to me [13:54:54] JodiS | video modules in LibX! Cool! [13:54:57] BigD | why is that lady looking down on me? [13:54:58] BillDueber | gsf: NO! She's talking to ME!!!! [13:55:00] MrDys | this is some star trek shit [13:55:00] dchud | rsinger: uh, yeah? i guess? [13:55:02] taco | ssssh [13:55:05] JodiS | Though I wonder if I'd like it the second time, or if I really needed some info... [13:55:07] timmcgeary | awwww [13:55:10] ejk | cieling cat is watching you search [13:55:11] BigD | her eyes are following me [13:55:11] abarrera | whoa she knows we are hear [13:55:15] paulalbert | I'm a Libra and looking for a friend. nothing serious.... [13:55:16] abarrera | s/hear/here [13:55:18] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [13:55:19] gsf | @quote add < MrDys> this is some star trek shit [13:55:20] * lbjay looks for ceiling cat [13:55:20] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1729 added. [13:55:22] kgs | book burro? [13:55:24] dchud | i believe that's his wife, right? [13:55:26] BillDueber | credits++ [13:55:27] anarchivist | @lolz [pirate [quote random]] [13:55:28] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9da54db2dbb69c2c] has joined #code4lib [13:55:29] ---| ---> dhanu [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2ddcd8068e07f53e] has joined #code4lib [13:55:31] mbklein | Our patrons would automatically assume that the librarian was watching what they were doing on the computer, and complain to the mayor. [13:55:34] ---| ---> danbri [n=danbri@ip80-101-238-54.hotspotsvankpn.com] has joined #code4lib [13:55:39] zoia | anarchivist: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:55:42] * timmcgeary got warm fuzzies [13:55:43] akorphan | Big Librarian is watching you. [13:55:44] rsinger | rosy1280: http://www.library.gatech.edu/search/web_localizer.php [13:55:49] mbklein | anarchivist: I think lolz is buster [13:55:54] mbklein | a/buster/busted/ [13:55:54] rsinger | dchud: who does that? [13:56:01] BigD | i'd SO rickroll everyone [13:56:11] ---| <<-- gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ba1c32a8db6a3d69] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:56:13] anarchivist | @pirate [aussie [pirate [aussie]]] [13:56:13] bess | BigD++ [13:56:15] zoia | anarchivist: SHRIMP ON th' BARBIE, MATES! [13:56:17] akorphan | jQuery++ [13:56:19] mjg_ | BigD: lightning talk. do it. [13:56:24] JodiS | mbklein: good point [13:56:26] ---| <<-- liza31337 [i=root@tak.dreamhost.com] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [13:56:29] dchud | rsinger: parsing marcxml with xml tools? lots of people? i don't understand your line of questioning. CHARGE ME OR CALL MY LAWYER [13:56:30] mbklein | I'd install the LibX RickRoll edition. [13:56:38] dchud | i mean OR LET ME GO [13:56:41] dchud | or something [13:56:50] * JodiS waits for some code4libber to create the RickRoll edition :) [13:56:56] JodiS | dchud++ [13:56:58] rsinger | dchud: seriously, who does anything serious with marcxml using only xpath? [13:57:01] rsinger | or DOM? [13:57:01] gsf | rsinger: is marcjson worse than marcxml? [13:57:05] scolford | @lolz [13:57:06] * ecorrado ready for a nap [13:57:10] rosy1280 | rsinger++ [13:57:14] anarchivist | rsinger: i used to [13:57:17] zoia | scolford: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:57:19] rsinger | gsf: yes, because no marc libraries would know what to do with it [13:57:23] BigD | when's lunch? [13:57:29] ---| ---> liza_ [i=root@tak.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [13:57:29] ---| ---> mib_tbwkor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df2ff1b9f6666a28] has joined #code4lib [13:57:36] mbklein | BigD: You're gonna be really really sad... [13:57:38] ---| <--- mib_tbwkor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df2ff1b9f6666a28] has left #code4lib () [13:57:53] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c4d1acaab5ce59aa] has joined #code4lib [13:57:59] BigD | no pony? [13:58:11] Kerwick | Nope, no pony [13:58:17] mbklein | BigD: What's worse? "No, you can't have a pony" or "You missed lunch"? [13:58:18] gsf | rsinger: the pymarc library, for one, could deal with marcjson with less overhead [13:58:23] BillDueber | ++ [13:58:30] MrDys | jrochkind100: are you going to ask godmar if there's a non-javascript for-the-blindies edition of LibX? [13:58:36] rsinger | gsf: if some standard definition of marcjson exists [13:58:38] BigD | mbklein: i eat ponies! dammit [13:58:45] mbklein | BigD++ [13:58:48] mbklein | Well played [13:58:49] anarchivist | rsinger: which it doesnt [13:58:49] gsf | rsinger: that could be useful [13:58:58] rsinger | anarchivist: exactly [13:59:07] akorphan | if the javascript happens on document.ready does it still cause problems for screen readers? [13:59:08] rsinger | and getting there would be painful [13:59:17] mbklein | MARC is hard. Let's go shopping! [13:59:23] anarchivist | mbklein++ [13:59:38] BillDueber | mbklein++, barbie-- [13:59:38] gsf | i hear there's a radioshack nearby [13:59:41] highermath_c4 | shopping++ [13:59:41] rsinger | i wish they taught shopping at school [13:59:42] anarchivist | @quote < mbklein> MARC is hard. Let's go shopping! [13:59:43] zoia | anarchivist: i wrote a hash script that did that once [13:59:52] jtgorman | eh? [13:59:55] anarchivist | @quote add < mbklein> MARC is hard. Let's go shopping! [13:59:56] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1730 added. [13:59:57] jtgorman | wha... [14:00:01] akorphan | gsf: there's a radio suck in the mall [14:00:03] MrDys | impressive. [14:00:04] highermath_c4 | shopping4gloves++++ [14:00:09] akorphan | aand another one next to Whole Foods [14:00:19] gsf | akorphan: with radio-controlled cars? [14:00:34] highermath_c4 | Is WF near here? [14:00:36] akorphan | gsf: I didn't notice any. I actually happened to go to both last night. [14:00:38] jrochkind100 | I like how he leaves out the role of those who actually develop the LibX plug-in itself. [14:00:38] BillDueber | gsf: I like where you're going with that... [14:00:42] jtgorman | ummm [14:00:44] jfereira | does RS sell lazer pointers? [14:00:49] jtgorman | stupid question... [14:00:50] lbjay | DevAppCommDucken [14:01:02] rosy1280 | isn't there a bestbuy in providence place mall? [14:01:08] mbklein | And that box that will keep the government from turning off my wife's grandmother's TV? [14:01:09] ---| ---> TerenceIngram [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eac863f034e58047] has joined #code4lib [14:01:11] akorphan | highermath: behind the train station, turn left at the end of the road, bear right at the fork, go 1/4 mile. [14:01:18] rsinger | who funds libx? [14:01:21] akorphan | it's YOOOGE [14:01:21] jtgorman | at any point has there been data loss with the free LibraryThing accounts? [14:01:22] mbklein | (which is her interpretation of the Digital TV transition...) [14:01:26] dchud | i kinda like the idea of using pymarc to load in many different serialization types for marc and efficiently stuff them into couchdb to see how useful marc-in-couchdb is [14:01:30] paulalbert | jferiera: I actually have a laser pointer on my person --your Cornell colleague (NYC) [14:01:33] rsinger | too soon [14:01:34] jtgorman | or, say, do they get deleted after a certain amount of activity? [14:01:35] gsf | edition builder is some heavy javascript [14:01:42] * highermath_c could use a 500w laser pointer about now [14:01:50] dchud | rsinger: what's too soon? [14:01:56] MrDys | no "releases"? [14:01:58] jtgorman | or am I just somehow misremembering my user name? [14:02:11] jrochkind100 | MrDys: It all runs on their server only. So it's always trunk. You can't install the LibX edition builder yourself. [14:02:21] jrochkind100 | MrDys: Well, maybe you CAN, it might theoretically be open source, but they don't want you to. [14:02:23] rsinger | dchud: i asked who was paying for libx right before he mentioned the grant [14:02:26] MrDys | jrochkind100: ah ha [14:02:27] LibraryThingT | "data loss with the free LibraryThing accounts" — Back in 2006 we lost a few days data—gave out free accounts... [14:02:35] dchud | rsinger: oh [14:02:41] LibraryThingT | the latter, I'm sure. PM me. [14:02:57] edsu | that's a lot of people [14:03:02] dchud | speaking of builders, i think i saw Geoffrey Bilder here [14:03:09] mbklein | emorgan++ # volume is everything [14:03:12] timmcgeary | what is Eric planning to do with that napkin? [14:03:27] jrochkind100 | To as much degree as you want. Take it, Amazon! [14:03:30] gsf | timmcgeary: lead the dance [14:03:31] Kerwick | white flag? [14:03:36] ---| ---> mib_kizd9m4v [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e53f00d7bef7cce2] has joined #code4lib [14:03:36] dchud | timmcgeary: he has this whole Satchmo shtick that's *hilarious* [14:03:47] mjg_ | teutonic_humor++ [14:03:48] abarrera | timmcgeary: throw it like a shoe at Godmar? [14:03:48] rsinger | dchud: anyway, i have no problem with that application of pymarc -- but how are you going to get agreement on the marcjson structure? [14:03:58] mbklein | Or, on the flipside, "Don't borrow that book from the library! Buy it from Amazon.com!" [14:03:58] dbs | MrDys: jrochkind100: I used to build LibX myself, so I could send i18n patches, until I got tired of having patches refused. which was only a couple of months. low patience on my end. [14:04:03] BigD | dchud++ [14:04:10] akorphan | sweet, iBahn borks google maps. [14:04:10] akorphan | A little. [14:04:10] jbrinley | rsinger: dchud will speak, and it will be so [14:04:12] mbklein | The LibX Amazon edition, complete with my referral code built in. [14:04:12] rsinger | dchud: will you be able to validate the marc? [14:04:13] BillDueber | rsinger: Build it. If people bitch, change it. [14:04:14] ---| <<-- highermath_c4l09 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-136e040f8485c8ed] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:04:22] dchud | rsinger: agreement? who needs agreement? i'll write it one way, and we can improve it from there. [14:04:27] rsinger | hrm [14:04:30] jrochkind100 | dbs: Yeah, that's my feeling. He doesn't want anyone else to touch the actual LibX core code. But _instead_, he's given LibX a plug-in format, so anyone else can write plugins. [14:04:32] BillDueber | rsinger: You have marc that validates????? [14:04:33] dchud | rsinger: working code wins [14:04:35] MrDys | dbs: so, did you abandon it? [14:04:38] miker_ | rsinger: by punching you in the throat, va robcaSSon [14:04:39] * jtgorman will hunt for a book he's pretty sure he's reviewed [14:04:40] jrochkind100 | dbs: Ie, "modules" and "libapps". Which may be enough. [14:04:47] TerenceIngram | @help [14:04:48] zoia | TerenceIngram: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [14:04:52] anarchivist | @google calc 1 USD to VND [14:04:54] zoia | anarchivist: 1 U.S. dollar = 17 543.8596 Vietnamese dong [14:04:54] timmcgeary | emorgan++ [14:04:55] mbklein | dchud++ # Consensus through code, not specs [14:04:56] LibraryThingT | Amazon referral code: Would violate their Associates agreement... [14:05:00] dbs | jrochkind100: not enough to add i18n though, unless things have changed massively [14:05:09] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: I sent you a privmsg, don't know if you got it [14:05:14] ---| <<-- cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c4d1acaab5ce59aa] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:05:14] ---| <<-- mib_dpon5ltq [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-84360755f1a03d84] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:05:16] LibraryThingT | Oh, I see it. Sorry. [14:05:18] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: I'm going to see if I can find one of my reviews [14:05:19] gsf | dchud: the only record of marcjson i can find in the wild is BillDueber's perl [14:05:22] jrochkind100 | When I talked to Godmar yesterday, I kept suggesting things LibX could do, and he kept trying to convince me why I woudln't want to do that. :) [14:05:27] mbklein | I sent you a privmsg, but I eated i [14:05:29] mbklein | t [14:05:34] harmless | i wonder if any worms have abused referral programs successfully on a large scale [14:05:37] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-882c0f8a69b8af10] has joined #code4lib [14:05:44] BillDueber | dchud: And javascript. There's javascript for reading,t oo. [14:05:45] mbklein | jrochkind100: Did he win? [14:05:45] dbs | MrDys: yep. built an English-only LibX toolbar for the university using the edition builder. I suck. [14:05:47] harmless | and i wonder if amazon would admit it if that happened [14:05:48] * robcaSSon raffles off a throat-punching [14:05:49] ---| <<-- cfitz [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-82.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection reset by peer) [14:05:54] jrochkind100 | dbs: It would be enought o add i18n to everything BUT the actual toolbar and libx preference panes. Which may not be enough. [14:05:55] BigD | did you suggest crazy stuuf? like having it show video? [14:05:55] mjg_ | anarchivist++ # that never gets old for those us who are developmentally fixed at the 6th grade [14:06:04] MrDys | dbs: isn't that illegal...(or just mean to the francos)? [14:06:06] jrochkind100 | dbs: But yes,I'm a bit frustrated with 'open source but you can't touch it unless you want to fork' too. [14:06:08] dbs | jrochkind100: right, not enough [14:06:15] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9bd0c848f2bb606b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:06:15] ---| <<-- mib_kizd9m4v [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e53f00d7bef7cce2] has quit (Client Quit) [14:06:24] ---| <<-- danbri [n=danbri@unaffiliated/danbri] has quit () [14:06:26] rsinger | dchud: so this will somehow get into marc4j? [14:06:32] dbs | MrDys: you'll note that LibX is pointed to by no LU web page. [14:06:54] jrochkind100 | dbs: Maybe we should fork it after he has 2.x done. Not that any of us want to spend the time on that. I guess he spends the time maintaining it he gets to make it closed open source. shrug. [14:07:02] mbklein | ksclarke++ [14:07:04] dchud | rsinger: i dunno. i just want to use it in pymarc. you're asking good questions but i'm not going to try to answer them before i get this working :) [14:07:04] BigD | did they fail too? [14:07:05] mbklein | djummies++ [14:07:09] abarrera | ksclarke++ # dummy [14:07:15] ---| <<-- mib_bd21r8jm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c4cec282859f7be] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:07:15] dbs | BillDueber: now that I've seen your marcjson thing, I'm considering adding a JSON serialization for File_MARC. Although I should get 1.0 out first I guess. [14:07:26] MrDys | should have been "road to Djbuti" [14:07:28] escowles | my eyes! [14:07:31] rsinger | dchud: i mean, the only point of marc is an interchange format, right? [14:07:39] mjg_ | ksclarke's a joker, he's a smoker, he's a midnight djatoker [14:07:40] anarchivist | dbs: can you tell me why people are still using phpmarc? [14:07:41] ecorrado | bright_yellow-- [14:07:46] anarchivist | dbs: probably not [14:07:52] abarrera | mjgiarlo++ [14:07:53] * mbklein wants some djummi bears [14:07:54] mib_xxmepy6r | it speaks into the mic or it gets the hose again [14:07:56] wtd | LU? [14:07:58] anarchivist | yellow = the color of envy [14:07:59] dbs | anarchivist: probably because File_MARC is 0.2.3beta and scary [14:08:01] BillDueber | dbs, dchud: You can pull what *I* think is marc-json out of my api, e.g., http://mirlyn.lib.umich.edu/cgi-bin/api_josh/marc.json/id/22 [14:08:03] andyashton | Djummiville sounds creepy [14:08:05] dbs | wtd: laurentian [14:08:14] anarchivist | err [14:08:14] anarchivist | no, thats green [14:08:14] anarchivist | the naragansett is talking again, sorry [14:08:15] ---| <<-- sechard [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7ecdc28f06a73bef] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:08:24] mbklein | That's a lot of yellow right there. [14:08:24] chickmarkley | i toka. djatoka? [14:08:26] BillDueber | I feel like I'm buying generic toilet paper. [14:08:29] jrochkind100 | dbs: I wonder, if you convinced Godmar that you were really serious about forking it, if he'd start paying attention to your patches. You just need to bluff him. [14:08:30] abarrera | BigD wants a djoughnut [14:08:32] liza_ | It's like I have a tan [14:08:48] timmcgeary | my eyes are burning [14:08:49] mjg_ | I feel like I caught teh jaundice. [14:08:49] mjg_ | sorry, djaundice [14:08:54] anarchivist | dbs: yeah, still does it better [14:08:58] jrochkind100 | openurl-- [14:09:01] anarchivist | h8 phpmarc [14:09:01] BillDueber | timmcgeary: From the yellow? Or the mention of OpenURL? [14:09:03] dbs | jrochkind100: I just don't care anymore. We actually had the IE LibX installed on our learning commons computers but it broke our registrar system [14:09:03] timmcgeary | mgj_++ [14:09:06] anarchivist | h8 php [14:09:06] ---| <--- chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53af9047c31db11a] has left #code4lib () [14:09:07] ---| Acknowledged: You're now known as lbjay2k [14:09:10] timmcgeary | from the yellow [14:09:14] akorphan | djatoka doesn't seem to have a Wikipedia page. Or maybe Is doin it rong [14:09:15] ---| <<-- cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e40804a29ca6ccc6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:09:15] ---| <<-- doylem [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3fa0191caee571ab] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:09:15] ---| <<-- mouwd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b91875f2104822ee] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:09:17] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53af9047c31db11a] has joined #code4lib [14:09:18] jrochkind100 | lbdjay [14:09:21] rsinger | oof. using openurl [14:09:26] robcaSSon | delicious_sacrilege_part_deux++ [14:09:29] ---| ---> steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-84ad77d42a2ed4e3] has joined #code4lib [14:09:36] MrDys | where does this stupid name come from? [14:09:44] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [14:09:46] mjg_ | anarchivist: have you added djatoka support to djabberdjaw? [14:09:46] jrochkind100 | rsinger: I bet you can guess who one of the main developers of djakota is. Who ELSE would ever choose to use openurl? [14:09:49] timmcgeary | i don't mind the openURL too much [14:09:56] dchud | BillDueber: i'll take a look at your json stuff, thanks for the pointer! [14:09:59] rsinger | g.d. herverts [14:10:03] ---| ---> highermath_c4l09 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-220e782f0cde63c8] has joined #code4lib [14:10:10] ---| ---> mib_qg0sa564 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b92f8f9f1cc4f969] has joined #code4lib [14:10:11] rsinger | timmcgeary: then you aren't working with it, obv. [14:10:12] jrochkind100 | von de sompel [14:10:13] mjg_ | rsinger++ [14:10:16] ---| <<-- andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-263456565278e595] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:10:24] mjg_ | "herverts"++ [14:10:33] abarrera | MrDys: from guys smoking too much maridjuana [14:10:36] anarchivist | mjg_: coming soon [14:10:37] asnagy | BillDueber: cool - will you be porting this to vufind ;) [14:10:44] ---| User: *** mib_qg0sa564 is now known as mouwd [14:10:46] harmless | anarchivist: can you tell me why people are still using php? [14:10:53] ---| ---> andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b01369364f8af18b] has joined #code4lib [14:10:54] anarchivist | mjg_: i've been kinda rethinking about rewriting djabberdjaw again [14:11:05] anarchivist | harmless: it's easy to implement [14:11:15] ---| <<-- fdadf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d5f3f1fbf5e8abbc] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:11:16] BillDueber | asnagy: Yup. Unless I can convince folks to just open up our solr port and let *that* be our API... [14:11:20] MrDys | I refuse to pronounce it as it seems to want to be pronounced. it's "dakota" in my brain [14:11:20] anarchivist | one of our UX designers literally has nightmares about nested PHP arrays [14:11:24] dlovins | http://www.dlib.org/dlib/september08/chute/09chute.html [14:11:25] harmless | lossy to lossy transcoding is... more lossy [14:11:25] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1f01ddd670e64b49] has joined #code4lib [14:11:25] ---| <<-- kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:11:26] timmcgeary | rsinger: not as much as you have, for sure [14:11:31] JodiS | What's an rft_id? [14:11:34] mbklein | BOOP! [14:11:35] anarchivist | someone hit the booper [14:11:51] edsu | referent id ? [14:11:54] scolford | anarchivist: and really easy to implement poorly [14:11:58] rsinger | what edsu said [14:11:59] jrochkind100 | JodiS: OpenURL for just an identifier. [14:12:01] lbjay2k | JodiS: referent id [14:12:05] JodiS | thanks guys [14:12:10] anarchivist | scolford: yeah :) [14:12:16] ---| <<-- Guest76608 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49d037bad0a5e8d2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:12:16] ---| <<-- dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9309786bff28a85e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:12:16] jrochkind100 | Again, can I say, I have learned to hate OpenURL, through great familiarity. [14:12:26] LibraryThingT | I find book covers oten work best in GIF/PNG. [14:12:26] LibraryThingT | Could djakota be used for a cover repository a la Amazon? [14:12:26] LibraryThingT | harmless: People still like getting things done. [14:12:29] rosy1280 | JodiS rft_id = a referent id part of OpenURL 1.0 [14:12:35] anarchivist | as much as i hate php, i love drupal [14:12:38] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:12:38] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [14:12:41] lbjay2k | argh, the lag-- [14:12:46] wickr | I'd guess it's overkill for book covers [14:12:50] anarchivist | http://d1syadvoyajtpr.cloudfront.net/f37f36b01b017789b4a23084e7e0b195_500.jpg [14:12:51] wickr | unless they're huge [14:12:57] * jbrinley can't open gmail anymore [14:12:59] timmcgeary | I really can't look at the screen [14:12:59] jrochkind100 | They decided OpenURL is a good fit for this... because when all you've got is a hammer... [14:13:08] timmcgeary | i'm totally getting a migraine [14:13:13] rsinger | there's a point you hit where you see openurl go from 'useful' to 'unholy' [14:13:16] scolford | anarchivist: and i oughta know [14:13:21] anarchivist | this shit is so herverted [14:13:23] ---| ---> messyp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-82.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:13:33] highermath_c4 | is there really a best buy in downtown providence [14:13:38] ---| ---> kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:13:39] BillDueber | pictures_in_channel_slowing_everything_down-- [14:13:42] liza_ | cmYk [14:13:43] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f8ec5a9fbc0319c] has joined #code4lib [14:13:49] mjg_ | anarchivist: verging on herverse [14:13:58] jrochkind100 | rsinger: So have you finally joined me accross that boundry? [14:13:58] mjg_ | herverging? [14:14:01] timmcgeary | rsinger: I've heard that, but we haven't gotten that far into yet to not be useful [14:14:09] mjg_ | distributed herversion control? [14:14:10] michaeldb | i could be crazy, but i don't think you really have to touch openurl at all to use djatoka [14:14:14] ---| ---> BigD1 [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:14:15] mib_xxmepy6r | there is a radio shack in the mall [14:14:19] mbklein | BigD: You have a yellow filter I can borrow to gray this presentation out? [14:14:20] ---| <<-- scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d5c74a567cdb9eb0] has quit ("mibbit.com: mibbit is melting") [14:14:23] ---| <--- mouwd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b92f8f9f1cc4f969] has left #code4lib () [14:14:25] jrochkind100 | They are NOT extensible. LIE. [14:14:25] LibraryThingT | wickr: Have you seen what Amazon's image servers can do. I would be very surprised if it was as poswerful [14:14:28] ---| <<-- andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b01369364f8af18b] has quit (Client Quit) [14:14:28] jbrinley | possible to make mibbit not download pictures? [14:14:31] khatar | anarchivist, http://www.tinybox.net/content/anarchivist-failed-epically [14:14:32] MrDys | you people and your WEAK EYES [14:14:32] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [14:14:33] michaeldb | that's only if you want to have it store identifiers and stuff, but you can always pass in the url to your jpeg2000 instead [14:14:37] rsinger | jrochkind100: oh dude, i've been there [14:14:41] cschx | Things worth forking LibX for: 1) fine-grained control over what domains cues can run in; 2) A BETTER UI. [14:14:41] anarchivist | mjg_: opening repositories like trenchcoats since 1999 [14:14:43] edsu | the http part is pretty :) [14:14:53] MrDys | you're practically begging for a technicolor dream presentation from me for tomorrow [14:15:01] rsinger | jrochkind100: it's just i don't know how to avoid it [14:15:12] anarchivist | MrDys: please do [14:15:14] LibraryThingT | Isn't black on yellow the absolute best thing for contrast—why they use it on street signs. [14:15:17] ---| <<-- kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81eaea51016fbd65] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:15:18] akorphan | mbklein: Just pretend it's a tonka toy. [14:15:19] jrochkind100 | Yeah. [14:15:21] timmcgeary | MrDys++ [14:15:27] rsinger | jrochkind100: also, the downside of ropenurl, is that i feel it should actually work to the spec [14:15:28] highermath_c4 | mib_xxmepy6r: went there - no luck [14:15:30] timmcgeary | MrDys: go for it [14:15:36] jrochkind100 | But I feel no guilt violating the standard where convenient. When a standard sucks and doesn't do what I need, I feel no compunction extending it on my own. [14:15:36] dhanu | black on yellow++ [14:15:39] BillDueber | Oops. Here comes "bad cop [14:15:47] Kerwick | ropenurl++ [14:15:51] harmless | Neat! "djatoka is a Java-based open source image server with an attractive basic feature set and extensibility under control of the community of implementers. Off-the-shelf, djatoka provides compression and region extraction of JPEG 2000 images, URI-addressability of regions, and support for a rich set of input/output image formats (e.g., BMP, GIF, JPG, PNG, PNM, TIF, JPEG 2000). djatoka also comes with a plug-in framew [14:15:52] rsinger | jrochkind100: instead of my idealized interpretation of the spec [14:15:53] BillDueber | I'm sorry. Cock-a-doo???? [14:15:53] anarchivist | @hussein kakadu [14:15:54] khatar | anarchivist, icanhaz ur opinion? [14:15:54] zoia | anarchivist: Aha! I used skunk [14:15:59] jrochkind100 | rsinger: are you actually touching ropenurl ever these days? [14:16:02] mbklein | LibraryThingTim: People aren't expected to stare at street signs for 20 minutes. For "look-and-look-away," the color scheme is great. [14:16:05] rsinger | jrochkind100: well, i feel like that's what DSLs are for [14:16:20] rsinger | jrochkind100: yeah, i pushed in a new version the other day [14:16:23] akorphan | highermath: http://maps.google.com/maps?abauth=4d3f69e5%3AdYgbQfYdD5PYpEc-r_FEl3ycZL8&output=html&hl=en&f=d&source=s_d&saddr=5+avenue+of+the+arts+providence+ri&daddr=601+N+Main+St%2C+Providence%2C+RI+02904+(Whole+Foods+Market)&btnG=Get+Directions [14:16:25] rsinger | jrochkind100: of trunk [14:16:28] kgs | LibraryThingTim street signs aren't ten feet high and you don't look at them for 20 min [14:16:32] akorphan | oops. [14:16:32] anarchivist | khatar: wouldn't have made a difference re: git vs. hg, the issue is the external diffing tools [14:16:33] JodiS | @quote search standard [14:16:34] timmcgeary | black on yellow -- [14:16:36] ecorrado | words_that_cannt_be_pronounced [14:16:37] zoia | JodiS: 18 found: #112: "what's really needed here is a balanced,...", #1305: " using non-library standards is cool....", #1319: " I kind of like thinking of code4lib...", #1501: " save me, semantic web full of...", #1587: " a standard should take one small...", #1592: " standards are my life.", #1593: " What's your favourite standard? ...", #1722: " if (2 more messages) [14:16:38] dhanu | well i guess white on black would also look good [14:16:41] wickr | lag-- [14:16:43] jrochkind100 | rsinger: I guess I shoudl really get umlaut to use your actual trunk version instead of the weird abandoned branch I've ended up with, huh? [14:16:46] * jtgorman forgot his login to LibraryThing as usual [14:16:49] jtgorman | :) [14:16:50] JodiS | @quote get 1722 [14:16:51] kgs | sorta like eating a meal made of many cups of capers [14:16:51] zoia | JodiS: Quote #1722: " if everyone has there own standard, there aren't any standards :)" (added by JodiS at 11:20 AM, February 24, 2009) [14:16:54] ---| ---> mib_dxv5z4lg [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2accc2e211da0684] has joined #code4lib [14:16:55] ---| <<-- BigD1 [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has quit (Client Quit) [14:17:00] LibraryThingT | Ha. Very true. [14:17:00] LibraryThingT | But if there were any danger, we'd be set. [14:17:03] rsinger | jrochkind100: no no -- the deprecated trunk [14:17:05] erikhatcher | maridjuana++ [14:17:07] anarchivist | khatar: and you still run into the problems f representing change in hierarchies even if you use an arguably "simpler" data model like YAML [14:17:09] rjw | projectnames you can't say-- [14:17:13] jrochkind100 | rsinger: DSL doesn't handle putting data into the openurl that the openurl format doesn't want to let me put in there in a structured way. [14:17:14] rsinger | jrochkind100: the one that's really just SAP1/2 [14:17:15] ---| User: *** mib_dxv5z4lg is now known as mouwd [14:17:18] ---| <<-- dansuchy [i=896e10a2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2daeb61f6be0e216] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:17:19] anarchivist | erikhatcher++ [14:17:19] rosy1280 | unless cheap is $5 i aint using it [14:17:23] * JodiS did that once [14:17:30] rsinger | jrochkind100: but it had some bugs even in that context [14:17:33] dbs | BillDueber: I probably wouldn't do the subfields as a hash of arrays; I would stick with an array of arrays, 'cause I love me my order [14:17:39] jrochkind100 | rsinger: No, I have a medium-attempt one, that's not really just SAP1/2, I don't think, but isn't what you ended up with either. [14:17:49] JodiS | zoia? [14:18:03] anarchivist | djatoka_maridjuana_yet?++ [14:18:09] dbs | err, array of hashes? [14:18:10] rsinger | jrochkind100: yeah, i 'fixed' what you get when you 'gem install openurl' [14:18:10] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Information for LibX developers - LibX Developer's Page || del.icio.us: Georgia Tech Library :: GT Web Localizer || Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data || Chudnov, Dan: Things Nobody Wants to Say, Part One : [14:18:40] * JodiS isn't interested in anything ;) [14:18:41] khatar | anarchivist, i think i missed something but i see what you meant [14:18:42] highermath_c4 | mib_xxmepy6r: i need to buy a thin usb dvd writer [14:18:44] khatar | thx [14:18:45] BillDueber | s/important/importance/ [14:18:46] highermath_c4 | mib_xxmepy6r: i need to buy a thin usb dvd writer [14:18:46] * akorphan plans to name all future products in Welsh. [14:18:47] mbklein | JodiS: I thought you had >0 interests [14:19:09] BillDueber | And hereeeeeere goes the network... [14:19:11] mouwd | anyone else having mibbit issues? it keeps kicking me out. [14:19:20] JodiS | mbklein: not on FOAF. many, many interests IRL [14:19:26] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f3dfeebe5e1f24a5] has joined #code4lib [14:19:28] mjg_ | shoutout to BHL++ [14:19:30] gsf | mouwd: s/mibbit/network/ [14:19:37] jbrinley | mouwd: I get nothing for about 3 minutes, then a flood data, then nothing... [14:19:41] ---| ---> gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:19:47] anarchivist | khatar: yes, fundamentally it's not really an issue of using DVCS at all [14:19:51] timmcgeary | it's the network [14:19:55] jbrinley | and no gmail [14:19:57] akorphan | The only web stuff that's running well for me is mibbit. [14:19:58] * ecorrado is interested in sleep [14:20:09] anarchivist | khatar: i wanted to use an external diff tool to determine when things actually changed [14:20:14] anarchivist | khatar: beyond simple whitespace [14:20:15] mbklein | akorphan: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch v. 0.8? [14:20:15] ecorrado | post_lunch_droopiness-- [14:20:19] ---| <<-- cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f8ec5a9fbc0319c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:20:19] ---| <<-- kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9da54db2dbb69c2c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:20:24] rosy1280 | network-- [14:20:25] timmcgeary | no_yellow++ [14:20:26] messyp | djatoka dis [14:20:26] erikhatcher | harmless: curious.... if not PHP, how do you build or recommend building web apps? [14:20:28] MrDys | mootools-- [14:20:32] ---| <--- gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has left #code4lib () [14:20:37] jbrinley | the_network-- [14:20:56] steambadger | What's the problem? Grab the output of a side-by-side diff, pipe it to a perl regex, mark it up, run it through an XSLT stylesheet, then throw it back to a mason engine and slap it on the screen. Nice and slow, so nobody gets hurt. [14:20:57] jrochkind100 | rsinger: But you think I should try to switch to your new one? I can do that, since we have decent unit test coverage, I'll just make sure all my unit tests work against the new one. [14:20:57] jrochkind100 | rsinger: I didn't realize you were still developing it, I thought it was entirely abandoned. [14:21:01] mbklein | OMG they killed http://kenny! [14:21:08] akorphan | Clearly this conference is a test for the business managers at the Renaissance. [14:21:10] asnagy | erikhatcher: cobol is the answer [14:21:22] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c9f684c39f16cac] has joined #code4lib [14:21:26] mouwd | network-- [14:21:27] akorphan | "once this thing kind of renders here...." [14:21:36] mjg_ | Someone told me that live demo-based presentations always work. I think his name was LIAR MCFIBBYPANTS [14:21:36] rsinger | jrochkind100: uh, some guy in australia emailed me a bug [14:21:37] BillDueber | asnagy++ [14:21:39] anarchivist | erikhatcher: i would build everything in python, but that's me :) [14:21:40] Kerwick | Asnagy: no way, Fortan... [14:21:40] mbklein | steambadger++ [14:21:49] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f3dfeebe5e1f24a5] has quit (Client Quit) [14:21:50] rsinger | jrochkind100: about how it clobbers repeatable values [14:21:55] * jbrinley saw this working quite nicely over his shoulder yesterday [14:21:56] Kerwick | s/Fortan/Fortran [14:22:00] khatar | anarchivist++ about it ... write a tool that can be configured to ignore some changes and to diff hierarchies makes sense [14:22:03] rsinger | jrochkind100: it was an easy fix [14:22:20] ---| <<-- TerenceIngram [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eac863f034e58047] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:22:29] anarchivist | the openlayers j2k stuf is cool [14:22:34] anarchivist | s/stuf/stuff [14:22:43] khatar | anarchivist, do you think the reste of the test was successfull? [14:22:43] ---| ---> decasm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-57a3c3a9ea9a9e91] has joined #code4lib [14:22:46] anarchivist | openlayers in general is justsuper cool [14:22:59] JodiS | network has really slowed down from my chair [14:23:05] rosy1280 | oh network...why have you forsaken us [14:23:06] rsinger | @whatis H.R. Pufnstuf [14:23:09] zoia | rsinger: comment: H.R. Pufnstuf is a children's television series produced by Sid and Marty Krofft in the United States. There were seventeen episodes of the show originally broadcast from September 6, 1969 to September 4, 1971. It was so successful that NBC kept it on the Saturday morning schedule for a full three seasons until August 1972. The show was shot in Paramount Studios and (2 more messages) [14:23:15] akorphan | yup, everything is choking. [14:23:17] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d838e8062a344365] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:23:23] BillDueber | JodiS: It's your chair's fault? MOVE IT! [14:23:29] decasm | jodiS: your chair is networked? [14:23:42] JodiS | lol [14:23:44] jrochkind100 | rsinger: Yeah, okay, so not so much actively developed. I don't like that I'm using an entirely different branch than the dude in australia, we've wound up with a fork. But I'm not sure what to do about it. [14:23:58] jbrinley | someone in the channel is named "was", so mibbit keeps highlighting that word [14:24:01] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ea0cd4e971806a69] has joined #code4lib [14:28:06] ---| <<-- LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@50.sub-75-221-209.myvzw.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:28:06] rsinger | jrochkind100: he just used gem install openurl [14:28:06] BillDueber | rsinger: Come and play with me, Jimmy, come and play with me. And I will take you on a trip far across the sea. [14:28:06] mbklein | jbrinley: I noticed that. [14:28:06] rsinger | jrochkind100: i mean, yeah [14:28:06] ---| <<-- caroldotou_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-acd0582926a814cb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:06] mbklein | easy_install faster_network [14:28:06] rsinger | @whatis The Magical World of Sid and Marty Krofft [14:28:06] zoia | rsinger: better luck next time [14:28:06] akorphan | manualBahn [14:28:06] mbklein | apt-get remove latency [14:28:06] * rsinger sighs. [14:28:06] MrDys | rsinger: longing for some puppety oddballs? [14:28:06] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: if you ever come back ... http://www.joltawards.com/ [14:28:06] BillDueber | cpan Network::XS [14:28:06] ---| <<-- rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8dbddd26b01b0fa6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:06] ecorrado | ding! [14:28:06] ---| ---> BigD [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-43181620bb9cdff0] has joined #code4lib [14:28:06] akorphan | can we get our money back for internet access? [14:28:06] anarchivist | khatar: yeah, DVCS was a perfect fit otherwise [14:28:06] akorphan | by we I mean code4lib [14:28:06] ---| ---> rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eadf45c66c6be181] has joined #code4lib [14:28:06] kgs | @foaf kgs interest [14:28:06] timmcgeary | break++ [14:28:06] zoia | kgs: kgs : , , , , , [14:28:06] * robcaSSon is sooo taking a nap [14:28:06] Kerwick | akorphan, we aren't being charged [14:28:06] rsinger | MrDys: what is now the CNN Center in ATL was formerly the Sid & Marty Krofft amusement park [14:28:06] liza_ | I've never been to a tech conference with good wifi [14:28:06] rjw | internet-rebate++ [14:28:06] ---| <<-- rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eadf45c66c6be181] has quit (Client Quit) [14:28:06] akorphan | kerwick: I still want my money back. [14:28:06] MrDys | rsinger: Druggachusetts? [14:28:06] jbrinley | last year wasn't bad [14:28:06] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [14:28:06] jbrinley | slow, but usable [14:28:06] jtgorman | Athens they really tried [14:28:06] Kerwick | akorphan: lol, so true :-) [14:28:06] steambadger | World of Sid and Marty Kroft! Man, that place was scary! [14:28:06] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:28:06] mbklein | jbrinley: Are we scripting, or freewheeling? :) [14:28:06] abarrera | mjgiarlo: no writing fraudulent lightning talks on the board [14:28:06] jbrinley | mbklein: freewheeling works for me [14:28:06] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5c5361626d8678d4] has joined #code4lib [14:28:06] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ea0cd4e971806a69] has quit (Client Quit) [14:28:06] mjg_ | abarrera: I would never. [14:28:16] rsinger | akorphan: didn't you mention a guatemalan rest. yesterday? [14:28:19] mbklein | jbrinley: OK. You might want to @forget yourself and have your URI on hand so we can do a @know on the fly. I'm guessing mibbit is the way to go. [14:28:21] ---| <<-- decasm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-57a3c3a9ea9a9e91] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:22] ---| <<-- calvinm_ [i=calvinm@fraser.sfu.ca] has quit () [14:28:27] abarrera | mjg_: me neither [14:28:31] jbrinley | mbklein: just a brief intro to why we did it, maybe highlight some code (rdflib, sparql), then demo it [14:28:33] ---| <<-- bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d439bbf97ec60807] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:34] messyp | Jah Tokka [14:28:47] abarrera | mjg_: no lil hawaiian sidekick this year? [14:29:10] mjg_ | abarrera: sadly, no! weep weep weep. [14:29:21] mbklein | jbrinley: I don't know that we're going to have time to show code. Maybe one SPARQL query. [14:29:21] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-882c0f8a69b8af10] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:29:33] erikhatcher | anarchivist: what was taht increment for? [14:29:38] ecorrado | fedora++ [14:30:04] anarchivist_ | erikhatcher: don't remember [14:30:14] * mbklein would attend both solr and fedora if he could [14:30:22] ---| <<-- mib_xxmepy6r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d511f61cf832d90a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:30:28] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:30:31] erikhatcher | ah.... sorry, i was too stoned to catch your djatoka....:) [14:30:36] robcaSSon | where will the nap breakout be held? 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[14:31:54] ecorrado | beer_breakout++ [14:31:56] ---| <<-- abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:32:02] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:32:05] mbklein | royt: The Hugh Jackman of code4lib [14:32:05] mjg_ | lbjay2k: thinking of going to the lounge [14:32:05] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit () [14:32:08] ---| <<-- jchphilly [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f99315e593e76f42] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:32:09] liza_ | lb: Yeah [14:32:10] mjg_ | lbjay2k: for uhhhh hacking, yeah [14:32:11] ---| <<-- kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [14:32:17] ---| <<-- ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-68.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:32:18] ---| <--- escowles [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bbe63a9efbcff0b8] has left #code4lib () [14:32:18] lbjay2k | lounge it is [14:32:21] ---| <<-- was [n=wschneid@65-112-121-29.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:32:25] mjg_ | rock, see y'all down there. 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[14:36:45] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [14:36:45] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is [14:36:54] jbrinley | @forget jbrinley [14:36:55] zoia | jbrinley: OK, I've forgotten jbrinley's URI [14:37:00] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [14:37:01] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know jbrinley's URI [14:37:41] jbrinley | @quote random [14:37:42] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #1690: " I run all my patches through @canuck" (added by ksclarke at 02:46 PM, February 04, 2009) [14:37:48] jbrinley | @quote random [14:37:48] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #1687: "< rsinger> speaking of crack, thank god i've finished this bag of pita chips" (added by gsf at 01:23 PM, January 30, 2009) [14:38:24] ---| <<-- highermath_c4l09 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-220e782f0cde63c8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:38:24] ---| <<-- gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f8f8b96b43fa7a4f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:38:24] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-84ad77d42a2ed4e3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:38:38] lbjay2k | mjgiarlo: drink is not a crime [14:40:45] ---| <<-- royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [14:41:28] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:42:08] ---| ---> ccatalfo [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-271d02487ada83d3] has joined #code4lib [14:42:17] ---| ---> royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:42:56] ---| ---> ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-68.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:42:57] zoia | < mjgiarlo> ecorrado++ # rat's ass as abstention [14:43:13] * ecorrado needs a new herald [14:43:28] ---| ---> mib_911i3ehf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6dda7a5325bd1fb0] has joined #code4lib [14:43:39] jbrinley | @herald add ecorrado ecorrado needs a new herald [14:43:39] zoia | jbrinley: The operation succeeded. 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[14:49:12] jtgorman | hmmm, nevermind [14:49:13] ecorrado | jtgorman: [14:49:19] ecorrado | jtgorman++ [14:49:19] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: The Ebook Difference || Engard, Nicole: NFAIS 2009: Born Digital - Born Mobile || Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data || Corrado, Ed: Ma.gnolia d [14:49:31] rjw | anyone seen rsinger: - his breakout awaits! [14:50:02] ---| <<-- royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:50:05] jbrinley | @pirate [quote random] [14:50:09] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #436: "* edsu takes off his peppermint patty costume" (added by djfiander at 01:44 PM, SeptembARrrrr 28, 2006) [14:50:25] ecorrado | @herald add ecorrado The master of Open Source Racing [14:50:26] zoia | ecorrado: The operation succeeded. [14:50:28] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5c5361626d8678d4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:50:47] rjw | ok folks stop looking rsinger: arrives! [14:50:53] ecorrado | funding++ [14:50:53] jbrinley | @pirate [sing [randtune]] [14:51:04] zoia | jbrinley: But I'll share me troubles if ye be off me way / I have no mother no salty sea-dog 'o a father / No sister no brother / I be an orphan lass [14:52:16] ---| ---> cdc [i=cff56b22@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-70a73d585a8abd64] has joined #code4lib [14:52:58] ecorrado | @herald add ecorrado quikc... someone bring more coffee [14:52:59] zoia | ecorrado: The operation succeeded. [14:53:00] ---| ---> mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-052fed0caa3cf412] has joined #code4lib [14:53:04] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c71d19ee4050c6a7] has joined #code4lib [14:53:18] ecorrado | @herald add ecorrado quick... someone bring more coffee [14:53:19] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d982116e86357152] has joined #code4lib [14:53:19] zoia | ecorrado: The operation succeeded. [14:53:58] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-69.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [14:54:12] ---| ---> kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:54:22] jtgorman | map++ [14:54:29] ---| <<-- cdc [i=cff56b22@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-70a73d585a8abd64] has quit (Client Quit) [14:54:34] jtgorman | perl_map++ to be more precise [14:54:49] ---| ---> mib_9pzb7xuy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e6155d34b0103c1] has joined #code4lib [14:55:07] ---| ---> highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-15.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:55:13] ecorrado | nap++ [14:55:14] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:55:25] mjg_ | perl_nap-- [14:56:01] * ecorrado in fedora breakout rven though he has no plans to use fedora for anything [14:56:04] ---| ---> dueberb [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:56:14] ---| <<-- messyp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-82.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [14:56:30] mjg_ | ecorrado: come over to the Temple lounge if you're bored w/ Fedora. we're chilling in the presence of alcohol. [14:56:39] ecorrado | mjg++ [14:56:47] ecorrado | cool, I'll be down soon [14:56:49] ---| <<-- ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-68.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:56:52] ---| ---> elli_ [n=elli@128.148.178.178] has joined #code4lib [14:57:37] elli_ | hugh, can I run scheduling by you? [14:57:45] ---| ---> messyp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-82.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:58:38] chickmarkley | hey, where's libx room [14:59:03] JodiS | chickmarkley: Temple level [14:59:21] jbrinley | Beethoven, i think [14:59:39] chickmarkley | thanks, I'll send the guy there [15:00:12] steambadger | Fedora's in Beethoven, isn't it? [15:00:14] ---| <<-- elli_ [n=elli@128.148.178.178] has quit (Client Quit) [15:00:25] * jbrinley is probably wrong [15:00:42] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:00:42] steambadger | Handel? [15:01:04] vtd | temple level handel sounds right for the libx session [15:01:09] jtgorman | let me guess.....all the rooms are named after composers [15:01:26] cbeer | @know cbeer http://ratherinsane.com/~chris/foaf.rdf#cbeer [15:01:27] zoia | cbeer: cbeer's URI is now [15:01:48] steambadger | No, they're all named after serial killers who happen to have the same names as composers. It's tricky. [15:02:01] ---| <<-- asl2 [n=asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [15:02:23] * Baroquem thinks Mozart should be on the Temple level instead of the mezzanine. [15:02:35] ---| ---> abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:02:42] mjg_ | anyone who wants to bail, we've got one open stool in the temple lounge [15:03:46] jtgorman | is the Beethoven room deafening? [15:04:11] * jtgorman avoided the more crass jokes, so people should be happy with that [15:04:33] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c71d19ee4050c6a7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:04:35] jtgorman | s/with that/for that/ [15:04:55] ---| <<-- abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [15:05:03] ---| ---> ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-68.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:05:03] zoia | quick... someone bring more coffee [15:05:31] steambadger | s'alright, jtgorman. I got your back. [15:05:54] * jtgorman struggles very hard not to make a crass joke [15:06:15] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:06:57] fak3r | jtgorman: crass joke appreciated [15:07:20] ---| <<-- lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has quit ("Lost terminal") [15:07:59] ---| ---> royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:08:02] ---| ---> abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:09:54] jfereira | people are starting to bail from the fedora room [15:10:45] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [15:11:11] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [15:11:17] ranti | so, I got my foaf file set up. what's next? [15:11:43] jbrinley | ranti: it's online? [15:12:17] jbrinley | ranti: next, tell zoia your URI [15:12:55] jbrinley | @help know [15:12:56] zoia | jbrinley: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [15:13:26] ranti | jbrinley: thanks. [15:14:16] ranti | @kamow ranti http://staff.lib.msu.edu/junus/foaf.rdf#ranti [15:14:18] zoia | ranti: I suppose. I mean, nothing's impossible: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/321/7276/1569 [15:14:22] ---| ---> paulalbert [n=paulalbe@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:14:34] * ranti chuckles [15:14:38] zoia | true, true [15:14:43] ranti | @know ranti http://staff.lib.msu.edu/junus/foaf.rdf#ranti [15:14:45] zoia | ranti: ranti's URI is now [15:15:11] jbrinley | @knows ranti zoia [15:15:14] zoia | jbrinley: ranti does not know zoia, but zoia knows ranti. [15:15:38] ranti | er, do I need to add zoia to my foaf as well? [15:15:56] jbrinley | ranti: yes, if you want to assert that you know zoia [15:16:27] jbrinley | @common knows jbrinley ranti [15:16:28] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know jbrinley's URI. [15:16:36] jbrinley | @common knows mbklein ranti [15:16:48] ---| ---> gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:16:48] ejk | @know ejk http://rhymeswithtoaster.com/foaf.rdf#me [15:16:49] zoia | jbrinley: , , , , [15:16:51] zoia | ejk: ejk's URI is now [15:17:01] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [15:17:04] * jtgorman needs a new domain [15:17:06] ranti | jbrinley: ah so. Sounds like the key-signing party thingy. [15:17:14] jtgorman | I had jonathan.gorman.net for a while but...yeah [15:17:15] mjg_ | I am consuming TanquerayML [15:17:19] jbrinley | ranti: kind of like that, yes [15:17:24] mjg_ | It seems to be valid and well-formed. [15:17:29] ---| ---> erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ab8bb4d4e7a417dc] has joined #code4lib [15:17:36] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2055febdf05e26ea] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:18:01] ---| <--- gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has left #code4lib () [15:18:44] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:18:46] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [15:18:47] ranti | @help common [15:18:47] zoia | ranti: (common , [, ...]) -- Returns the objects that all nicks have in common related to the given predicate. [15:18:53] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Corrado, Ed: Ma.gnolia data is lost || Corrado, Ed: Facebook Privacy Kerfuffle [15:19:14] jbrinley | @common interest ranti royt JodiS [15:19:15] * ecorrado wonders why zoia is announcing old blog posts of his [15:19:15] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know royt's URI. [15:19:32] jbrinley | @common interest ranti JodiS [15:19:37] fak3r | doing things outside of fedora-commons, well put post [15:19:39] zoia | jbrinley: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [15:19:42] kgs | ecorrado that happens to me sometime... [15:19:46] royt | somethings up w/my serer [15:19:47] royt | server, even [15:19:50] jbrinley | oh, yeah, JodiS has no interests [15:20:00] jbrinley | @known royt [15:20:01] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know royt's URI [15:20:05] fak3r | that's not very interesting [15:20:20] JodiS | @knows ranti JodiS [15:20:21] kgs | predicates++ [15:20:24] zoia | JodiS: ranti and JodiS do not know each other. [15:20:51] ranti | @knows ranti JodiS [15:20:51] mjg_ | gsf snuck in w/ ninja skills. [15:20:52] pmurray | @knows pmurray zoia [15:20:54] zoia | ranti: ranti and JodiS do not know each other. [15:20:56] zoia | pmurray: pmurray does not know zoia, but zoia knows pmurray. [15:21:07] * royt reboots his server [15:21:21] ---| <<-- michaeldb [n=michaeld@CPE0012170da427-CM000a739b087e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit () [15:21:23] fak3r | uptime-- [15:21:29] ranti | @known JodiS [15:21:30] zoia | ranti: JodiS's URI is [15:21:41] edsu | gsf: online [15:22:14] gsf | edsu: BillDueber's marcjson example: http://code.google.com/p/marc-json/source/browse/trunk/samples/book.json [15:23:03] ---| ---> ecorrado_ [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-68.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:23:03] ---| <<-- ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-68.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [15:23:06] kgs | @common interest kgs [15:23:08] zoia | kgs: , , , , , [15:24:24] jtgorman | is there some way to use the plugin to give it a dbpedia uir and find out the folks who have that interest? [15:24:56] ---| ---> michaeldb [n=michaeld@CPE0012170da427-CM000a739b087e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #code4lib [15:25:37] jtgorman | @common interest http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing [15:25:39] zoia | jtgorman: Error: 'http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing' is not a valid nick. That nick is too long for this server. [15:25:44] pmurray | @list foaf [15:25:45] zoia | pmurray: common, foaf, forget, know, known, knows, and predicates [15:25:58] jtgorman | pmurray++ [15:26:00] pmurray | @foaf interest http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing [15:26:01] zoia | pmurray: I don't know interest's URI. [15:26:08] jtgorman | I suspect there's some way of doing it via predicates [15:26:13] mjg_ | @hosts2010 [15:26:14] zoia | mjg_: Asheville, NC [201]; Austin, TX [180]; Madison, WI [156]; Columbus, OH [110]; Bloomington, IN [86] [15:26:19] jtgorman | @predicates [15:26:20] zoia | jtgorman: (predicates ) -- Displays the relationships that have been asserted by the given nick about the other nick or URI. [15:26:26] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:26:27] pmurray | jtgorman: Yeah -- you're probably right. [15:26:34] jtgorman | maybe not [15:26:37] pmurray | hmmm. [15:26:42] pmurray | @foaf [15:26:44] zoia | pmurray: (foaf ) -- Returns the objects of the given predicate in the given nick's FOAF. [15:26:46] jtgorman | @predicates zoia kgs [15:26:47] zoia | jtgorman: Relationships asserted by zoia about kgs: [15:27:10] pmurray | @predicates http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing * [15:27:11] zoia | pmurray: Error: 'http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing' is not a valid nick. That nick is too long for this server. [15:27:18] jtgorman | @predicates kgs http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing [15:27:20] pmurray | @predicates * http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing [15:27:23] zoia | jtgorman: I don't know http://dbpedia.org/resource/Brewing's URI. [15:27:25] zoia | pmurray: I didn't know *'s URI anyway. [15:27:27] ---| <<-- royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [15:27:34] jtgorman | hah! [15:27:42] * jtgorman goes back to wrok [15:27:43] kgs | pmurray you scared off royt! [15:27:46] jtgorman | maybe even work [15:27:59] kgs | either that or he's off slipping into his thong before the lightning talks [15:28:01] pmurray | kgs: Happens... ;-) [15:28:04] edsu | just catching up on zotero developments, crazy shit! [15:28:12] * pmurray shudders. [15:28:13] jtgorman | edsu: ooohhh, anything cool? [15:28:30] edsu | jtgorman: ther server stuff is live apparently? [15:28:34] * pmurray shudders and tries to wipe that visualization from my mind. [15:28:35] edsu | http://www.zotero.org/bdarcus/library/item/16408 [15:28:41] pmurray | edsu: Yeah, it is. [15:28:57] jtgorman | edsu: yeah, someone mentioned that to me a little while ago and I was suprised too [15:29:03] jtgorman | edsu: maybe in December? [15:29:11] edsu | bruce is talking about embedding bibo/foaf rdfa in the server views [15:29:20] jtgorman | don't know how long it's been live. I guess for longer than I thought [15:29:36] LibraryThingT | . [15:30:43] LibraryThingT | echo echo [15:31:26] MrDys- | @karma tspalding [15:31:27] zoia | MrDys-: Karma for "tspalding" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. [15:31:33] gsf | edsu: http://www.zotero.org/support/sync [15:31:34] ---| User: *** MrDys- is now known as MrDys [15:31:59] LibraryThingT | tspalding++ ? [15:32:07] LibraryThingT | Anyway, aren't I LibraryThingTim? [15:32:41] pmurray | LibraryThingTim: YOu are now but when you weren't here you were "tspalding" for purposes of Karma. [15:32:44] pmurray | @karma [15:32:45] zoia | pmurray: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1053), and "dbs" (856). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-55). You (pmurray) are ranked 27 out of 8313. [15:33:00] pmurray | @karma librarything [15:33:00] zoia | pmurray: Karma for "librarything" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. [15:33:05] LibraryThingT | Ah. [15:33:19] anarchivist | @karma [15:33:20] zoia | anarchivist: Highest karma: "edsu" (1062), "mjgiarlo" (1053), and "dbs" (856). Lowest karma: "iii" (-163), "sirsidynix" (-72), and "-" (-55). You (anarchivist) are ranked 10 out of 8313. [15:33:23] LibraryThingT | What sessions are people in. Anything good? [15:33:23] pmurray | librarything++ [15:33:25] pmurray | @karma librarything [15:33:26] zoia | pmurray: Karma for "librarything" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. [15:33:44] pmurray | @karma iii [15:33:45] zoia | pmurray: Karma for "iii" has been increased 8 times and decreased 171 times for a total karma of -163. [15:33:47] pmurray | iii-- [15:33:50] pmurray | @karma iii [15:33:52] zoia | pmurray: Karma for "iii" has been increased 8 times and decreased 172 times for a total karma of -164. [15:34:01] LibraryThingT | Ouch. [15:34:12] mjg_ | gsf and edsu sittin' in the booth, C H A T T I N G [15:34:13] * ranti can't help but agrees with iii's karma [15:34:26] LibraryThingT | iii++ <--- it needs love! [15:34:47] LibraryThingT | @karma lunch [15:34:48] zoia | LibraryThingTim: Karma for "lunch" has been increased 21 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 21. [15:34:48] cbeer | LibraryThingTim: The fedora session is ok, but too technical and abstract to be interesting [15:35:16] LibraryThingT | The technical aspect here is hard for me to care about. I can read technical stuff. The gold here is the people and the ideas. [15:35:29] cbeer | LibraryThingTim: exactly [15:35:38] * ecorrado_ remembers the ays when voyager had the lowest karma [15:35:45] LibraryThingT | Who are you anyway, Mr. Beer? [15:36:09] LibraryThingT | I want an ideas4libtech conference. [15:36:19] gsf | mjg_: you just jealous [15:36:28] cbeer | Chris Beer, WGBH.. we met at c4lne [15:36:29] LibraryThingT | No technical talks. No introductory talks. [15:36:31] mjg_ | :(~~~ [15:36:36] LibraryThingT | Oh, yeah. Hello! :) [15:36:39] cbeer | ideas4libtech++ [15:36:39] ecorrado_ | LibraryThingTim: host one in Maine this summer! [15:36:46] LibraryThingT | Nobody will come to Maine. [15:36:48] LibraryThingT | Boston maybe. [15:36:59] cbeer | maine will be more beautiful [15:37:06] LibraryThingT | beer: I'm glad the LCSH data is back. You must have been worried. [15:37:08] LibraryThingT | True. [15:37:09] JodiS | zotero++ [15:37:09] ---| ---> jphipps [i=root@packard.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [15:37:11] cbeer | i'd escape boston [15:37:15] edsu | maine, camping [15:37:19] LibraryThingT | I'd love to do it. [15:37:21] LibraryThingT | Lobster. [15:37:21] cbeer | I downloaded the RDF dump [15:37:24] LibraryThingT | Peaks Island. [15:37:24] ecorrado_ | LibraryThingTim: people will come to Maine before Binghamton, at least they would if they were smart [15:37:42] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d982116e86357152] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:37:51] LibraryThingT | ecorrado: Shake my hand or something. I love your blog work of late. [15:37:52] cbeer | but we also have been cataloging the terms too, so we were ok, just disappointed for awhile [15:38:00] ecorrado_ | LibraryThingTim: http://powerlesscamp.org/ [15:38:09] ecorrado_ | you can host it somewhere [15:38:35] edsu | btw, aliman (dcmi,skos) started a project for converting bib data to rda [15:38:42] edsu | http://code.google.com/p/code4rda/wiki/HomePage [15:38:52] LibraryThingT | I dunno. If we went into the wilderness, something terrible might happen to the OCLC people. [15:39:09] ecorrado_ | LibraryThingTim: don't host it in Georgia [15:39:15] dbs | "... in a blinding flash of insight...." [15:39:19] LibraryThingT | Bears, you know. Terrible problem up in Maine. [15:39:20] mjg_ | YOU GOT A PURTY API BOYEE [15:40:01] LibraryThingT | (shiver) [15:40:03] cbeer | edsu: would that make some of the authority data available as linked data? [15:40:18] edsu | cbeer: not sure just yet [15:40:39] edsu | looks like there's no code in there yet [15:40:58] wickr | not just maine, the #1 thread to America (bears) [15:41:22] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@66.71.244.39] has quit () [15:41:23] LibraryThingT | My wife hit a bear. They probably know. [15:41:32] MrDys | omg bears. [15:43:01] abarrera | mjgiarlo's neck bear is looking at me [15:43:03] ---| <<-- mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-052fed0caa3cf412] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:43:41] MrDys | that's an upgrade. 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[15:51:47] ---| User: *** highermath is now known as highermath_away [15:51:49] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1a55fac5b0a0b496] has joined #code4lib [15:51:55] anarchivist | @predicates anarchivist cazzerson [15:51:56] zoia | anarchivist: Relationships asserted by anarchivist about cazzerson: [15:52:19] BigD | does predicates mean you owe me $20 [15:52:26] MikeTaylor | Quiet around here ... is it really a dialogue between anrchivist and a bot? [15:52:43] anarchivist | MikeTaylor: funny thing is i'm on a conference call too [15:53:09] ---| ---> MrDys- [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-69.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:53:17] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:53:20] abarrera | BigD: do I want to know why he owes you $20 [15:53:26] ---| ---> jphipps [i=root@packard.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [15:53:32] LibraryThingT | I'm all goose-bumpy. [15:53:43] anarchivist | abarrera: everyone owes BigD $20 [15:53:59] BigD | damn skippy [15:54:13] ---| ---> mib_3k89rhty [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e4ec885e119db19b] has joined #code4lib [15:54:18] ---| ---> liza31337 [i=root@tak.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [15:54:30] dlovins | @interest dlovins [15:54:30] zoia | dlovins: cannot we speak like thoughtful adults and not drunken sailors? [15:54:47] ---| <<-- mib_9pzb7xuy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e6155d34b0103c1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:55:10] ejk | the internetz r better in the ballroom than in the mozart room [15:55:24] MrDys- | the internetz were better in the lounge [15:55:31] BigD | there pretty good in the bathroom too [15:55:39] ---| ---> mib_hvnwmdxm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2c36e12620823cdc] has joined #code4lib [15:55:50] ---| User: *** mib_hvnwmdxm is now known as mouwd [15:55:52] LibraryThingT | It's all for me grog, me noggin' noggin' grog—it's all for me beer and tabaccy! [15:56:10] pmurray | BigD: I don't think I want to know how you know that. [15:56:26] emcrens | Cause I spent all me tin... on lassies drinkin' gin [15:56:39] ---| ---> royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:56:42] kgs | the internetz were grate til u developers came back in the room and clogged them [15:56:51] ---| <<-- dueberb [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [15:56:54] liza31337 | I had no internet in the lounge, which bodes ill for beer + coding [15:57:07] LibraryThingT | Can you code while drinking? [15:57:10] anarchivist | liza31337: bummer [15:57:16] MikeTaylor | I have 31 slides to get through in my Lightning Talk. [15:57:20] LibraryThingT | I can photoshop, but not code. [15:57:21] ---| ---> akorphan [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-140232da7a3e41d4] has joined #code4lib [15:57:28] pmurray | @sandp eng [15:57:29] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: it's the best way for me to code [15:57:29] liza31337 | Usually that's when I write my tests [15:58:20] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [15:58:20] ejk | MikeTaylor: and a live demo, right? [15:58:20] pmurray | @dow eng [15:58:20] akorphan | ibahn_conf makes me VE-RY ANG-RY (huff, huff) [15:58:20] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [15:58:20] emcrens | haha... I code better after I've been drinking... [15:58:20] pmurray | @stock aapl [15:58:20] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [15:58:20] pmurray | Bah. [15:58:20] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: that's part of the reason why i want a rugged, beerproof netbook [15:58:20] LibraryThingT | I'd have to be drunk to write tests. [15:58:20] MikeTaylor | No live demo -- it takes more than five minutes just to get the Internet connection up. [15:58:38] ejk | Dow is up 238 points for the day [15:58:41] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f66ed86ced9451b0] has joined #code4lib [15:58:50] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [15:59:02] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2040bbfcf32bb1a1] has joined #code4lib [15:59:42] ---| ---> scolford [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6965e24ba653d48] has joined #code4lib [15:59:46] ruest | dow-- [15:59:47] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:59:47] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [15:59:56] LibraryThingT | dow++ [16:00:27] MikeTaylor | Is the running order of lightnings posted anywhere? [16:00:36] mib_3k89rhty | hurry up! [16:00:43] liza31337 | I think it would help to shout out the number of minutes remaining [16:00:44] jbrinley | MikeTaylor: no, even the presenters don't know the order [16:00:50] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-af236a5a5188859b] has joined #code4lib [16:00:55] mib_3k89rhty | MikeTaylor: they were laying it out just a few mins ago onstage [16:01:05] ruest | drupal++ [16:01:17] MikeTaylor | Oh ... i missed that because I loaded my presentation earlier, so I went at sat down while everyone else was loading. [16:01:21] mib_3k89rhty | drupal++ #always [16:01:22] BigD | when's lunch? [16:01:23] MikeTaylor | Darn. Does anyone know when I'm on? :-) [16:01:45] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d27e3c78bee680b] has joined #code4lib [16:01:49] mib_3k89rhty | hmmm... [16:01:52] ---| ---> mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-08a848e8a4f85b87] has joined #code4lib [16:01:54] mib_3k89rhty | louder! [16:01:55] LibraryThingT | He is not going to make it in 5 minutes. [16:01:56] wickr | what the hell? [16:01:56] abarrera | i love this one [16:01:59] ---| User: *** mib_3k89rhty is now known as fak3r [16:02:11] mjg_ | What's this dude's name? [16:02:13] edsu | that is awesome [16:02:14] andyashton | best. presentation. ever [16:02:18] ---| ---> gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:02:24] mjg_ | I am now a fan of XC. [16:02:33] abarrera | cartoons_during_presentation++ [16:02:34] jfereira | watch out! [16:02:58] MikeTaylor | w00t! But ... what was he talking about again? [16:03:01] jtgorman | mjg_: so...there's actual details about XC? [16:03:12] wickr | jtgorman: no, just cartoons [16:03:25] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:03:26] ecorrado | cartoons++ [16:03:26] abarrera | you need to hear the audio on the mario one [16:03:36] fak3r | volume plss [16:03:38] jtgorman | oh, ok. [16:03:39] ---| ---> dueberb [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:03:47] ---| ---> papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #code4lib [16:03:49] fak3r | "I'm sorry mario, but our princess is in another castle" [16:04:04] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-99a99259f7ad1f28] has joined #code4lib [16:04:05] ---| ---> jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-89f1c8cbca6d8146] has joined #code4lib [16:04:05] BigD | this was abarrera and mjg_ last night... [16:04:08] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f50a9d7990a347b2] has joined #code4lib [16:04:13] abarrera | BigD++ [16:04:17] ---| ---> gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-13795c83e5b643d3] has joined #code4lib [16:04:21] jrochkind100 | why is he providing cartoons that compete for attention with his content? [16:04:21] abarrera | until you came and ate mjgiarlo [16:04:34] wickr | "volume please" sounds similar to "details/code please" [16:04:36] fak3r | jrochkind100: unsure, but it's working! [16:04:44] abarrera | bingo [16:04:45] ---| ---> sechard [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-054663b60c89b42f] has joined #code4lib [16:04:49] ---| ---> mib_jqmykb28 [i=80d27e86@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bef53b0194ec8a2a] has joined #code4lib [16:05:01] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:05:01] jbrinley | jrochkind100: to distract from lacking content? (I don't know, I was paying attention to the cartoons) [16:05:06] JodiS | http://tinyurl.com/XCwebcast [16:05:06] mjg_ | david_lindahl++ [16:05:07] LibraryThingT | Wow. He did it. [16:05:10] scolford | wait, what was his topic? [16:05:18] abarrera | maybe he did that for his timing [16:05:22] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-69.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [16:05:28] LibraryThingT | OPACs need to have cartoons in them. [16:05:30] ---| User: *** MrDys- is now known as MrDys [16:05:31] mjg_ | note to presenters: introduce yourselves. [16:05:33] fak3r | anyone have success with Scriblio? [16:05:39] scolford | LibraryThingTim++ [16:05:39] LibraryThingT | Is Brett on? [16:05:46] fak3r | mjg_: as hans and franz? [16:05:46] jrochkind100 | See, that's what's frustrating to me, XC is actually REALLY GOOD and nobody knows it. [16:05:46] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Client Quit) [16:05:54] mjg_ | jtgorman: tinyurl.com/XC uhhh, something. [16:05:57] jrochkind100 | And he should have been convincing us of htat, but instead he provided a cartoon to watch. HUH? [16:06:04] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-886ab1aa73e44af1] has joined #code4lib [16:06:20] JodiS | fak3r: there was a nice presentation about it at necode4lib, with an archivist who uses it [16:06:24] abarrera | http://tinyurl.com/xcwebcast [16:06:32] JodiS | jrochkind: I agree, but will watch the video [16:06:35] mjg_ | abarerra++ # jtgorman, ^ [16:06:47] fak3r | JodiS: necode4lib? [16:06:49] JodiS | jrochkind: he's actually a good speaker [16:06:50] mjg_ | JodiS++ # also. [16:06:55] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- # for misspelling my name [16:06:58] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:07:12] mjg_ | abeara [16:07:15] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d6a7e064f5359061] has joined #code4lib [16:07:20] scolford | fak3r: new england code4lib [16:07:22] jtgorman | abarrera++ [16:07:25] abarrera | is that Seth Rogan up there? [16:07:29] jtgorman | I'll watch later [16:07:32] fak3r | scolford: thanks [16:07:32] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d6a7e064f5359061] has quit (Client Quit) [16:07:45] * mjg_ snorts [16:07:46] LibraryThingT | Haystack is great, but someone needs to make a LibraryThing for archives. [16:07:57] fak3r | haven't been able to make scriblio look like this at all... [16:08:00] ---| ---> asl2 [n=asl2@adsl-76-193-16-193.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code4lib [16:08:01] JodiS | Collingswood Public Library is using it. Their director is here. (But doesn't multitask, so isn't on IRC) [16:08:02] MrDys | LibraryThingTim: sounds like something you should do [16:08:09] anarchivist | oh god no [16:08:12] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bdeef6ad94f4dc6f] has joined #code4lib [16:08:14] anarchivist | please, please no [16:08:17] jtgorman | hire anarchivist for it ;) [16:08:19] scolford | but wouldn't that be ArchiveThing? [16:08:20] mjg_ | JodiS: Collingswood! [16:08:26] jtgorman | or...maybe not [16:08:26] JodiS | fak3r: sketchy info here: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/NEC4L a local code4lib event where a bunch of us got together [16:08:35] LibraryThingT | Yeah, we've lost -Thing. HobbyThing is the newest Thing. [16:08:37] mjg_ | JodiS: not as nice as Cherry Hill but... ;) [16:08:39] JodiS | mjg: yup. My dad's house is within walking distance of that library [16:08:44] cbeer | LibraryThingTim: What would ArchiveThing do? [16:08:46] * JodiS was waiting for that one [16:08:48] fak3r | sweet pixelated text [16:08:52] liza31337 | South Jersey represent [16:08:52] gsf | mjg_: yeah, that director is brett, who i got a ride up here with [16:08:57] ---| ---> fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fed2c84af34c249] has joined #code4lib [16:09:04] abarrera | south_jersey++ [16:09:06] mjg_ | brett++ [16:09:07] LibraryThingT | OPAC/LibraryThing Archive systems/ArchiveThing [16:09:13] mjg_ | central_jersey++ holy_wars++ [16:09:18] anarchivist | that doesn't even make sense [16:09:18] akorphan | @karma ibahn [16:09:19] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "ibahn" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. [16:09:23] liza31337 | Wawa++ [16:09:26] JodiS | fak3r: http://rc98.net/necode4lib is a bit about what happened gsf++ [16:09:28] anarchivist | wawa++ [16:09:29] abarrera | Wawa++ [16:09:30] JodiS | Wawa++ [16:09:32] JodiS | :) [16:09:32] dueberb | ArchiveThing would fight alongside Mr. ArchiveFantastic [16:09:35] LibraryThingT | Oh, the Common Knowledge plug makes me happy. [16:09:38] ruest | ibahn-- [16:09:38] fak3r | css_underutilized_thus_far-- [16:09:43] khatar | definitly: we need a code4lib event in europe ! [16:09:45] JodiS | dueberb: is he related to Miss Kitty Fantastico? [16:09:49] LibraryThingT | 1,000,000 edits; I'll stop. [16:09:51] anarchivist | JodiS: no, but I am [16:09:53] JodiS | khatar: yes, please get that started! :) [16:09:58] JodiS | anarchivist++ [16:10:07] mjg_ | I guess the presentation laptop doesn't have audio? [16:10:15] edsu | @later tell danbri http://groups.google.com/group/bibliographic-ontology-specification-group/browse_thread/thread/c7c017203f3f9a95 [16:10:16] zoia | edsu: The operation succeeded. [16:10:17] JodiS | http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/scriblio/ [16:10:23] dueberb | JodiS: "I'm so glad I have fish and not a dog." [16:10:24] LibraryThingT | casey++ [16:10:27] fak3r | nice background on last slide [16:10:33] fak3r | yeah, casey++ from me too [16:10:34] ---| ---> mib_xxmepy6r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8ef3396882e887e8] has joined #code4lib [16:10:38] lbjay2k | anarch "mike hog" ivist [16:10:40] edsu | the cats in office was really funny without the sound [16:10:41] khatar | JodiS, we would not be a lot :) [16:10:41] scolford | LibraryThingTim: if random house can claim Books On Tape®, you should be able to grab *Thing® [16:10:42] ---| ---> steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b66211e7b20eb240] has joined #code4lib [16:10:49] dueberb | FAIL: The Revenge! [16:10:50] edsu | not this guy again :) [16:10:53] akorphan | lightning_cartoons?? [16:10:53] fak3r | he has far more colour in his avatar pic [16:10:58] LibraryThingT | Ha. They can? That's fucked up. [16:11:02] kgs | lightning_talks++ [16:11:02] mjg_ | anarchivist: one day, two epic fails [16:11:09] JodiS | khatar: you might be surprised. [16:11:09] ---| ---> epoz [i=46a41928@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-824a16072307ef65] has joined #code4lib [16:11:10] LibraryThingT | Move it over! [16:11:13] fak3r | mjg_: ouch [16:11:21] JodiS | khatar: necode4lib was about 20-30 people, and it was great! [16:11:21] LibraryThingT | Good. [16:11:29] fak3r | big fonts = web 3.0! [16:11:37] JodiS | enjoysthin.gs++ [16:11:38] jbrinley | = foaf:interest? [16:11:39] khatar | necode4lib ? [16:11:40] akorphan | "creative technologist". There's a job title. [16:11:43] * khatar googles [16:11:44] cbeer | necode4lib++ [16:11:51] fak3r | forget that, I use magnolia! what? oh... [16:11:55] cbeer | khatar: New England Code4Lib [16:11:58] fak3r | NO! [16:12:01] edsu | headcold4lib [16:12:07] mjg_ | fak3r++ [16:12:12] akorphan | headcrab4lib? [16:12:13] jtgorman | common_knowledge++ [16:12:31] LibraryThingT | danke [16:12:32] khatar | ne.code4lib.org ? [16:12:42] fak3r | vimeo plug, it must run python then [16:12:47] cbeer | khatar: sounds right [16:12:50] jtgorman | dbpedia++ [16:13:01] jtgorman | all those wonderful sources of data that makes me drool ;) [16:13:04] fak3r | loading things from the web during a presenation? -- [16:13:07] jtgorman | musicbrainz++ [16:13:08] liza31337 | Time to register hatesthin.gs [16:13:12] LibraryThingT | Social bookmarking for visual learners. [16:13:13] jtgorman | discogs++ [16:13:17] abarrera | opp+ # on http://enjoythin.gs homepage [16:13:20] khatar | this was in USA [16:13:21] fak3r | ha, python book, I knew it [16:13:26] LibraryThingT | Ooh, discogs. [16:13:31] jbrinley | liza31337++ [16:13:37] dueberb | A 'Visual Learner' is just someone who's too lazy to read. [16:13:42] edsu | weird seeing my table at home on the big screen [16:13:50] mjg_ | liza31337++ [16:13:51] khatar | JodiS, i said that because french librarians just decoversed computers last year [16:14:02] ---| ---> smkiewel [i=46a41963@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fed0e51a8fd1d1d6] has joined #code4lib [16:14:06] * mjg_ can smell the beer stains on edsu's table [16:14:07] fak3r | edsu: you get used to it after awhile I'll bet [16:14:09] jtgorman | delicious++ [16:14:12] LibraryThingT | dueberb: Ha. It's someone who prefers a map to a meticulous set of directions... [16:14:13] ---| ---> kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-28a322564c31bf81] has joined #code4lib [16:14:15] khatar | so i think we would be patients with them [16:14:18] ruest | dude just pick something! [16:14:24] abarrera | mjgiarlo: for you http://ara.enjoysthin.gs/28814 [16:14:25] JodiS | khatar: you had the internet before anybody else! [16:14:26] fak3r | reload-- [16:14:33] LibraryThingT | That's fairly cool. [16:14:40] * jtgorman is one of those people who prefers maps to directions, but that comes from growing up in a family where none of the people can give directions [16:14:41] dueberb | LibraryThingTim: It's someone who believes a picture is worth 8 words. [16:14:47] fak3r | ouch [16:14:53] scolford | LibraryThingTim: indeed. check it out at the bottom of this page. http://www.booksontape.com/ [16:14:53] edsu | and they use GIT! [16:14:57] akorphan | Is it me, or is the huge mass of wall warts in the room making it hotter in here? [16:15:01] mjg_ | abeara: awesome. [16:15:14] JodiS | khatar: (I forget what it's called...) [16:15:14] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- # ass [16:15:17] khatar | JodiS, computer scientists are very active but merly alone and understood [16:15:18] jtgorman | "You turn right on the third stop light"..."I did, it was blah".."Oh, yeah. You don't want to be on that, it dumps into the Interstate." "I kinda guessed" [16:15:29] khatar | JodiS, miriades [16:15:31] BigD | abarea has a bad attitude [16:15:38] LibraryThingT | I cede to none in the love of reading, but when I do the test, I'm a visual learner. I was in a class of Classics people—half archaeologits, half philologists. It spit perfectly down the middle. Archaeologists are not stupider. [16:15:43] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:15:51] JodiS | khatar: French culture values authority way more than U.S. culture [16:15:53] abarrera | BigD-- [16:15:58] dhanu | ok this is going to be totally off topic. but what the heck..... any suggestions about a restaurant to try good new england lobsters within walking distance to the hotel [16:15:58] JodiS | (in my experience, at least) [16:16:13] LibraryThingT | Sure. The train to Portland is just a block away. [16:16:17] abarrera | @kharma bigd [16:16:19] zoia | abarrera: sorry, i'm busy trying to create a code4lib logo using toothpicks and wd-40 in my garage, can you get back to me? [16:16:24] abarrera | err [16:16:27] abarrera | @karma bigd [16:16:27] zoia | abarrera: Karma for "bigd" has been increased 107 times and decreased 14 times for a total karma of 93. [16:16:30] khatar | JodiS, i confirm it... and it's a shame! [16:16:32] mjg_ | dhanu: if you don't get any good responses here, could be there's an answer on the Conference_Buzz wiki page. [16:16:37] andyashton | @dhanu I'm not sure about lobster, but Federal Hill has great seafood (read: fresh oysters & Bombay martinis) [16:16:39] zoia | andyashton: you should read this new o'reilly title. i swear. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2129/2229790410_31d3ac41dc_o.png [16:16:46] LibraryThingT | Someone Googling for that yet? [16:16:52] andyashton | dhanu I'm not sure about lobster, but Federal Hill has great seafood (read: fresh oysters & Bombay martinis) [16:16:57] JodiS | bdarcus++ (and edsu++ for pointing it out): suggesting FOAF/RDA for Zotero pages: http://groups.google.com/group/bibliographic-ontology-specification-group/browse_thread/thread/c7c017203f3f9a95?pli=1 [16:17:02] khatar | i'm very impressed by everything i seen and heard those days [16:17:11] dhanu | mjg & andy: thank, i'll look in to it [16:17:13] dlovins | edsu: my foaf fell out of the attendees page. I changed my hash to "#me", but it looks like the crawler was able to grab the new version ... Any suggestions? [16:17:15] * khatar needs a greeb card ;) [16:17:24] jtgorman | for the folks looking for seafood I'd highly recommend trying to get ahold of some stuffed quhoags if you can [16:17:24] JodiS | dhanu: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Conference_Buzz has some seafood suggestions, FWIW [16:17:26] jrochkind100 | how are you guys putting images in irc? I didn't know you could do that. [16:17:47] MrDys | jrochkind100: some clients just do it when you paste an img url [16:17:47] jtgorman | jrochkind100: I suspect you're using mibbit and it's doing that for you if the path is right... [16:17:49] lbjay2k | dlovins: maybe others need to update our links to you [16:17:52] anarchivist | jrochkind100: i'm not [16:17:52] mjg_ | jrochkind100: just links. mibbit derefs them [16:17:53] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Automated Databases from the 18th to the 21st Centuries || del.icio.us: code4rda - Google Code || Leggott, Mark: How Silly Can We Get? || Leggott, Mark: Latest Evergreen Release Available [16:19:53] fak3r | shocker: I bookmarked http://fak3r.com on enjoythin.gs [16:20:07] fak3r | gplv2++ [16:20:11] mjg_ | ejlynema++ [16:20:27] akorphan | ematrix++ [16:20:30] abarrera | ncsu++ [16:20:30] fak3r | good presentation [16:20:49] dueberb | ejlynema++ [16:21:00] edsu | dlovins: i guess i need to fix that bug eh? [16:21:16] ecorrado | ejlynema++ [16:21:21] * lbjay2k looks up lightning talk in dictionary and sees ejlynema's [16:21:25] jtgorman | stuffed quahogs I mean [16:21:26] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5feb9d379f92789] has joined #code4lib [16:21:26] liza31337 | gopher++ [16:21:29] LibraryThingT | Lobster: Warwick is only 7 miles from here. [16:21:30] khatar | JodiS, there are some very good francophone librarians/coders for libraries [16:21:41] edsu | elm =~ data junky [16:21:46] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c999fc35dc719ed1] has joined #code4lib [16:21:49] anarchivist | operation_quahog++ [16:21:53] andyashton | directions to Federal Hill: http://tinyurl.com/oystersandmartinis [16:21:56] lbjay2k | LibraryThingTim: you want see food, maybe check out Horton's [16:21:58] khatar | paul poulain, nicolas morin: working at biblibre [16:21:59] fak3r | hammernail mention (shellac) [16:22:00] jtgorman | I don't know how easy they will e to get though..the best one I had were when I did a run through the various beach towns of RI and they where all crab shack type things [16:22:00] dueberb | Frankphone? I got one of those for subscribing to Sports Illustrated. [16:22:21] khatar | and olivier dive from Strasbourg University [16:22:25] anarchivist | dueberb++ [16:22:25] fak3r | code4lib_irc_chan++ [16:22:27] dlovins | edsu: Not sure it's a bug ... and you probably have other things to worry about? [16:22:31] mjg_ | elm looks quite aristotelian with the book up there. [16:22:40] edsu | dlovins: na, i should fix that now that i ave time [16:22:42] rsinger | "White Sox Fans, you just won the national championship!" [16:22:49] edsu | will need to wait for better net connection tho [16:22:56] LibraryThingT | Blogs for french LT competitors—agoradeslivres and the other one. [16:23:05] ecorrado | oysters++ [16:23:08] dueberb | How many ties are in the room other than ELM? [16:23:11] dlovins | edsu: Thanks [16:23:12] lbjay2k | LibraryThingTim: http://www.quahog.org/cuisine/index.php?id=110 [16:23:19] edsu | oh we should add librarything to the c4l attendees view [16:23:31] gsf | fak3r: looking at fak3r.com i'm now more surprised you don't know eric goldhagen [16:23:33] jbrinley | dueberb: a quick scan: 0 [16:23:45] gsf | fak3r: http://eric.openflows.com/ [16:23:47] ejk | usernamesStartingWithE++ [16:24:00] ---| User: *** mjg_ is now known as emjg_ [16:24:04] emjg_ | awesome. [16:24:05] ---| Acknowledged: You're now known as lbjay [16:24:05] fak3r | boom [16:24:10] anarchivist | ibahn++ [16:24:19] rsinger | @praise ibahn [16:24:20] zoia | ibahn is totally stuck in the present [16:24:23] ---| User: *** abarrera is now known as ebarrera [16:24:43] LibraryThingT | I'm not understandin this one. [16:24:43] LibraryThingT | Lobster: I can't get Google to map it, but Legal Seafood is at 2099 Post Rd, Warwick, RI 02886. [16:25:11] ---| User: *** emjg_ is now known as mjg_ [16:25:16] rsinger | LibraryThingTim: probably near the airport, i guess [16:25:23] LibraryThingT | Yeah, map says so. [16:25:37] LibraryThingT | Anyway, just suggesting. It may not be the best, but Legal Seafood is always high-quality. [16:25:39] fak3r | gsf: looks good, I've added him to my enjoysthin.gs account! [16:26:09] gsf | fak3r: ha, cool [16:26:16] fak3r | gsf: also looks like he'd dig one of my other sites: http://lefttochance.com/ [16:26:17] scolford | LibraryThingTim: Unless it's the one in the Prudential Mall, Boston. [16:26:18] rsinger | @ana Despite what you've been told, you are in in Warwick [16:26:20] zoia | rsinger: Peeved, witty boneheads lout [16:26:25] ruest | ibahn-- [16:26:30] LibraryThingT | Really. Sorry. [16:26:39] fak3r | ripped paper plugin [16:26:40] ---| ---> decasm [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1c551c09ba9d7726] has joined #code4lib [16:26:50] JodiS | who is currently speaking? [16:27:00] rsinger | geoff bilder -- crossref [16:27:07] fak3r | I think his name is renaissance [16:27:10] JodiS | thanks rsinger [16:27:16] anarchivist | MY NAME IS IBAHN [16:27:19] anarchivist | I COME FROM THE FUTURE [16:27:29] mjg_ | geoff the bilder, CAN YOU MINT IT? [16:27:30] scolford | anarchivist++ [16:27:32] rsinger | I AM IBAHN [16:27:38] * rsinger stands up. [16:27:43] fak3r | I can't remember [16:27:49] ---| User: *** ebarrera is now known as abarrera [16:28:13] fak3r | foo.com - new social bookmarking site? [16:28:16] anarchivist | wir fahn fahn fahn auf der ibahn [16:28:17] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [16:28:22] LibraryThingT | I'm not convinced link-rot is a big problem. [16:28:23] anarchivist | fak3r: example.com [16:28:39] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1c391d37bef0c3a8] has joined #code4lib [16:28:47] edsu | and we should all publish in journals -- fuck the web [16:28:49] LibraryThingT | Archive.org and you're done... [16:28:50] MrDys | PSYCHOCERAMICS [16:28:58] akorphan | ADDICT INSANE [16:29:00] fak3r | LibraryThingTim++ [16:29:02] rsinger | @ana pyschoceramics [16:29:03] * anarchivist hopes to engage in some psychoceramics later [16:29:03] MrDys | akorphan++ [16:29:04] zoia | rsinger: Hey! Cosmic craps [16:29:04] gsf | @quote add < edsu> and we should all publish in journals -- fuck the web [16:29:05] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1731 added. [16:29:18] liza31337 | Publishers pay a lot for DOIs [16:29:20] lbjay | zoia++ [16:29:20] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [16:29:21] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know jbrinley's URI [16:29:26] harmless | people keep conflating uri's with primary keys sometimes but not others. [16:29:35] BigD | my urls have a DNR [16:29:50] LibraryThingT | Ha. Good luck. [16:29:52] edsu | cool, author id [16:30:07] gsf | my urls are carved on the walls of caves [16:30:23] edsu | gsf++ [16:30:24] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [16:30:25] BigD | gsf++ [16:30:27] fak3r | gsf++ [16:30:30] rsinger | HTTP::Cave.py [16:30:39] jrochkind100 | wait, what did he say he didn't like about openid? [16:30:40] ecorrado | caveid [16:30:47] rsinger | Cave::URI.parse [16:30:48] anarchivist | import caveman [16:30:52] abarrera | gsf++ # but caves aren't portable [16:30:53] fak3r | scp -r cave user@backupserver:~ [16:30:55] akorphan | Good caves are persistent. [16:31:05] rsinger | hmmmmmm [16:31:08] wickr | jrochkind100: it's based on domain names/hosting [16:31:20] rsinger | @ana welcome to the dream [16:31:21] fak3r | false! [16:31:21] zoia | rsinger: Elect tame whoredom [16:31:23] ejk | Welcome to the dream [16:31:24] epoz | FYI, there is an initiative to create an academic DOI registry led by German National Science library [16:31:30] rsinger | @dunno add Welcome to the dream. [16:31:30] zoia | rsinger: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [16:31:35] LibraryThingT | German scientists... [16:31:57] dueberb | not_tailoring_talk_to_your_audience-- [16:31:59] * anarchivist reads a scroll of summon undead URIs [16:32:01] cschx | that's the *simplified* illustration? [16:32:01] fak3r | digital divide almost metioned [16:32:09] MrDys | anarchivist++ [16:32:09] rsinger | @dunno add Welcome to the dream. [16:32:10] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. Dunno #300 added. [16:32:12] LibraryThingT | I like a little more tolerance for ambiguity in my metadata. [16:32:15] atz | regular_shpiel-- [16:32:15] atz | regular_shpiel-- [16:32:17] BigD | $19.95! But WAIT! There's More!!! [16:32:19] ---| <<-- gsf_ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [16:32:22] ---| ---> gsf_ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:32:26] fak3r | "ask your doctor if ProQuest is right for you" [16:32:32] rsinger | HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I SIGN YOU UP FOR TODAY? [16:32:34] ejk | You may know me from such presentations as [16:32:34] wickr | summonWow! [16:32:34] LibraryThingT | Yeah. Summon is a good idea. This talk is too pat. [16:32:40] liza31337 | fak3r++ [16:32:43] dueberb | "Enter summon". There's no nouns in that sentence. [16:32:50] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-026f19acadba5023] has joined #code4lib [16:32:51] JodiS | fak3r++ [16:32:53] rsinger | WAIT, DON'T ANSWER YET. WHAT IF I ALSO SAID I'D GIVE YOU A JANGLE FOR FREE? [16:32:53] BigD | side effects include... [16:32:54] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1a55fac5b0a0b496] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:32:54] anarchivist | crickets? [16:32:57] rsinger | STILL INTERESTED? [16:32:58] mjg_ | gbilder++ [16:32:58] ecorrado | nouns-- [16:32:58] JodiS | what's his name? [16:32:59] scolford | fak3r++ [16:33:01] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65f74ab311c3a409] has joined #code4lib [16:33:02] jbrinley | rsinger: less than I was [16:33:03] atz | I summon an Orc Warlord to pummel your ass. [16:33:03] LibraryThingT | John Law. [16:33:04] atz | I summon an Orc Warlord to pummel your ass. [16:33:13] abarrera | if your search takes longer than four hours, please call 911 [16:33:13] anarchivist | rsinger: do i need to summon a dongle to get a jangle? [16:33:14] JodiS | epoz: good to know. Got a URL? [16:33:23] fak3r | "Google - search your site" [16:33:25] akorphan | Is this a sales pitch? [16:33:25] * anarchivist gives BigD a jangle [16:33:25] rsinger | John Q. Law [16:33:26] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a41923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f211b89ed0abf4ee] has joined #code4lib [16:33:34] rsinger | akorphan: indeed [16:33:34] jbrinley | akorphan: yes [16:33:34] anarchivist | is that royt? [16:33:36] liza31337 | This is why I only give talks to people who don't know how to use irc [16:33:38] BigD | ha! [16:33:41] LibraryThingT | As with the XC thing, Summon is actually a great idea, if expensive. But the style here is grating. [16:33:41] ---| User: *** dueberb is now known as BillDueber [16:33:41] dhanu | is this a GPL product? [16:33:45] JodiS | "no waiting" = short enough. No = 0. Sorry, sales dept. [16:33:48] lbjay | liza31337++ [16:33:49] akorphan | Ooh, someone shout that question out! [16:33:50] rsinger | akorphan: didn't you mention a guatemalan restaurant yesterday? [16:33:56] anarchivist | liza31337++ [16:33:57] JodiS | Summon sound great. But he doesn't know our style, alas [16:33:58] jrochkind100 | obviously the crossref people should provide an openid redirector at their domain. Cause doi resolution is based on a domain too, it's just that hte domain is doi.org/crossref.org [16:33:59] akorphan | rsinger: indeed. Got a car? [16:34:07] steambadger | abarrera++ [16:34:08] rsinger | akorphan: oh, FAIL [16:34:10] mouwd | I'm pretty sure I heard this exact talk in the webcast. [16:34:13] atz | a good *commercial* project. [16:34:14] atz | a good *commercial* project. [16:34:14] fak3r | see, they use a keyhole in the logo, they 'unlock yr data' [16:34:15] ecorrado | it is GPL: Great Pile of Loot [16:34:15] JodiS | rsinger; there's a great Cuban place within walking distance [16:34:15] LibraryThingT | I think a few swear-words would save it. [16:34:16] * rsinger sighs. [16:34:18] * BigD does not give anarchivist a dongle [16:34:21] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:34:23] JodiS | atz: you're doubled again [16:34:23] BigD | lmnop [16:34:30] lbjay | i thought he said "John Locke" and Summon was going to be a new Dharma station [16:34:30] cschx | are you getting this, camera guy? [16:34:33] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22694773733871cc] has joined #code4lib [16:34:35] * flyingzumwal has fled to the channel in response to this sales pitch [16:34:36] anarchivist | did he say it implements crotchrot? [16:34:36] akorphan | rsinger: find a friend with a car and set your gps for 1049 Atwells Ave [16:34:37] gsf | the list goes on and on [16:34:37] fak3r | chatting_getting_fast_furious++ [16:34:37] paulalbert | crotchref? [16:34:40] steambadger | If ANYBODY can search our holdings, how will we know who's worthy? [16:34:41] mjg_ | lbjay++ [16:34:42] abarrera | lbjay++ [16:34:42] jrochkind100 | the actual user-interface layer WILL be open source, and replaceable by whatever you want using their APIs. [16:34:46] edsu | gsf: heheh [16:34:46] fak3r | *crickets* [16:34:51] andyashton | rsinger: there is a Guatemalan place out on Atwells Ave, but you'd need a car [16:34:56] atz | .... a search engine? what a great idea! [16:34:56] atz | .... a search engine? what a great idea! [16:35:03] scolford | reading-- [16:35:04] jrochkind100 | But if anyone can figure out a way to aggregate all this metadata from hundreds of publishers and normalize it and such and provide it for free -- then please do and then let me use it. :) [16:35:08] atz | why didn't we think of that before? [16:35:09] ---| <--- gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has left #code4lib () [16:35:09] epoz | Jodis: hunting for a URL [16:35:10] LibraryThingT | The interface will be open source? Really? [16:35:11] BillDueber | atz: you're doubling [16:35:11] BillDueber | atz: you're doubling [16:35:11] fak3r | really looks like a tv commercial for a new medicine [16:35:12] JodiS | epoz++ [16:35:22] scolford | i mean reading_from_script-- [16:35:24] JodiS | Name of this salesperson? [16:35:28] ecorrado | purple_pill-- [16:35:32] edsu | we will summon dark spirits from the underworld [16:35:35] LibraryThingT | Yeah. this is a hard problem. It's hard because of deep deep dysfunction in the publishing and libray world. But it's hard. So it's worth money. [16:35:36] fak3r | "What am I goind to do with 50 subscriptions to Vibe?" [16:35:39] jrochkind100 | LibraryThingTim: That's what John Law told me on the phone, yeah. And Andrew next to me just confirmed. The interface software will be open source. It will talk via API to their underlying index, which will not be open access or open source. [16:35:47] LibraryThingT | Cool. [16:35:47] MrDys | drat. [16:35:48] fak3r | RT "What am I going to do with 50 subscriptions to Vibe?" [16:35:48] MrDys | http://dysinterested.com/summon.png [16:35:54] gbilder | Yes, but doi.org is *one* piece that can be easily searched/replaced should s*** hit fan. Problem arrises if you have many, many such things to change. [16:35:54] jrochkind100 | You'd think he would have known to highlight that fact presenting at code4lib. [16:36:03] anarchivist | MrDys++ [16:36:03] JodiS | MrDys++ [16:36:24] chickmarkley | catchy [16:36:24] andyashton | remeberingToTurnOffIMBeforeMyTalk++ [16:36:25] lbjay | MrDys++ [16:36:27] kgs | jrochkind100 this is John's first c4l. He's a quite wonderful person and if he doesn't get up there and be all hairy, well, so what. [16:36:30] mjg_ | MrDys++ [16:36:35] LibraryThingT | MrDys: Ouch. [16:36:37] scolford | did he say "internet willie"? [16:36:38] anarchivist | erikhatcher++ [16:36:39] liza31337 | Hey I'm running Nutch right now [16:36:42] LibraryThingT | Did you make that just now? [16:36:43] anarchivist | MrDys: just enjoyed that [16:36:45] wickr | MrDys++ [16:36:51] jrochkind100 | at least he didn't show us a cartoon. I don't need cutesey geekiness, I just need good presentation. [16:36:56] MrDys | LibraryThingTim: world class photoshopper right here [16:37:10] ejk | MrDys++ [16:37:11] BillDueber | "quite periodically" [16:37:14] anarchivist | "creamy milk-java doclet" [16:37:14] LibraryThingT | kgs: I agree. But what is this for if not snark. [16:37:17] fak3r | * * * * * /bin/do_something! [16:37:17] ---| <--- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2040bbfcf32bb1a1] has left #code4lib () [16:37:18] gsf | erikhatcher lives for the search [16:37:20] abarrera | MrDys++ [16:37:23] mib_xxmepy6r | anyone with better eyes able to read that URL? [16:37:27] akorphan | mrdys++ # did you just throw that together? [16:37:34] paulalbert | http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/ [16:37:36] jrochkind100 | www.lucidimagination.com [16:37:37] akorphan | lucidimagination.com/search [16:37:38] BillDueber | http://lucidimagination.com/search [16:37:47] fak3r | this is facet-nating [16:37:48] jtgorman | wait, are lightning talks still going on ? [16:37:49] mib_xxmepy6r | kthnksbai [16:37:49] wickr | jbrinley++ [16:37:50] mjg_ | jbrinley++ [16:37:58] ---| <<-- atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c999fc35dc719ed1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:38:02] abarrera | shammmmwow [16:38:04] epoz | http://www.tib-hannover.de/en/the-tib/doi-registration-agency/ [16:38:10] mjg_ | jtgorman: yup, just started 50m ago [16:38:11] gsf | fak3r++ facetinating [16:38:19] BigD | abarrera: thanks for keeping up [16:38:20] rsinger | ok, thanks akorphan and andyashton [16:38:26] jrochkind100 | bess? You here? Can we do that in blacklight? [16:38:29] fak3r | shammmmmwow kills me [16:38:31] rsinger | guess that will have to wait until there's some wheels [16:38:45] * BillDueber is gonna have to do multiselect for vufind now. Dammit. [16:38:46] akorphan | Shamwow dude is hocking something else these days, but I forget what. [16:38:48] anarchivist | i have to admit [16:38:52] anarchivist | i really want a shamwow [16:38:53] anarchivist | r 8 [16:38:56] fak3r | though you could do multi facets with solr before? I've seen it done... [16:38:57] anarchivist | s/r/or [16:39:06] paulalbert | akorphan: slapchop [16:39:15] * charper fell asleep under a shamwow, almost dehydrated. [16:39:18] fak3r | anarchivist: "hey camerman, keepin' up there?" [16:39:28] akorphan | paulalbert: Oh, right! [16:39:29] jtgorman | anarchivist: ditto..it's a good thing they're not sold in stores, cause I would probably by one [16:39:30] abarrera | BigD: sorry that i'm as slow as you are, when it is your time to pick up the check [16:39:38] LibraryThingT | Dumb question: If Solr can't do it, can't you get down to the Lucene level? [16:39:39] fak3r | "refined taste in spellchecking" [16:39:43] wickr | you guys, it's "you follow me camera guy?" [16:39:44] liza31337 | I don't understand 'eventually open-source.' I start all my OS projects from scratch in the open. [16:39:45] akorphan | So what's the exciting thing about lucidfind? i missed it. [16:39:46] anarchivist | abarrera++ # ucsd pays for everything [16:39:51] jtgorman | anarchivist: I mean, I'd buy one on impulse [16:39:53] anarchivist | liza31337++ [16:39:53] JodiS | who's presenting about lucidfind? [16:39:54] BigD | abarrera: where are you taking me to dinner? [16:40:05] akorphan | Uh, a guy with glasses. [16:40:06] anarchivist | JodiS: erikhatcher [16:40:06] fak3r | bookmark overload [16:40:10] edsu | opensearch++ [16:40:10] jbrinley | akorphan: most of these docs aren't indexed/searchable anywhere else [16:40:12] rsinger | liza31337: me too [16:40:15] abarrera | BigD: dumpster behind the hotel, eat all you want, [16:40:16] JodiS | anarchivist: I've never seen him with glasses [16:40:19] liza31337 | 'guy with glasses' really narrows it down [16:40:22] mjg_ | liza31337++ [16:40:23] akorphan | jbrinley: thanks [16:40:23] rsinger | liza31337: warts_from_the_start++ [16:40:27] edsu | the glasses == cool [16:40:29] fak3r | "He probably misses his old glasses" [16:40:29] gsf | LibraryThingTim: yes, if you're willing to dig into solr [16:40:32] * anarchivist like's erik's new glasses [16:40:36] mib_xxmepy6r | pro tip... avoid the food court in the mall! [16:40:39] akorphan | turtles_all_the_way_down++ [16:40:41] JodiS | edsu: kinda looked like anarchivist from afar [16:40:45] * jtgorman checks the schedule and sees the lightning talks were later than he thought [16:40:55] anarchivist | mib_xxmepy6r: nordstrom cafe is alright [16:41:00] ---| ---> jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5dcf67e825116e35] has joined #code4lib [16:41:01] * gsf sheds a tear for lucy [16:41:06] akorphan | mib_xxmepy6r: you didn't go to Surf N Turf, did you? [16:41:11] LibraryThingT | People are really got at keping this under 5 mins. [16:41:13] gsf | lucy: so much promise, so going nowhere [16:41:15] BillDueber | JodiS: I'm pretty sure you just insulted at least one of them. [16:41:17] anarchivist | baby_conferences++ [16:41:18] rsinger | akorphan: lucidimagination is like a support company for lucene/solr [16:41:27] ejk | bacon++ [16:41:27] akorphan | bacon++ [16:41:28] fak3r | inside joke time [16:41:28] abarrera | mmmmmm [16:41:34] BigD | mike! [16:41:39] JodiS | BillDueber: alas, I am rude. though not by choice. [16:41:40] LibraryThingT | Can we avoid the term "metasearch." [16:41:41] mjg_ | presenters: say yer dang names [16:41:45] * abarrera bets a $20 BigD licks the screen [16:41:45] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22694773733871cc] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:41:48] JodiS | hey, there's our bacon of the day [16:41:53] anarchivist | metasearchical graffiti [16:41:53] LibraryThingT | It's not metasearch. [16:41:58] ecorrado | about time someone put bacon up on the screen [16:41:59] mjg_ | heavy metalsearch. \m/ [16:42:17] fak3r | capitalist [16:42:20] anarchivist | ecorrado: doesn't compare to taping bacon to a cat [16:42:30] fak3r | bacon knows ham... [16:42:33] ecorrado | anarchivist: true [16:42:39] rsinger | anarchivist: why have i never thought to do this? [16:42:54] LibraryThingT | Awesome. [16:42:59] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4944518fb06dd5ac] has joined #code4lib [16:43:01] emcrens | Just awesome. [16:43:01] anarchivist | rsinger: because you come from the theatah! [16:43:02] fak3r | that won't scale* [16:43:09] mjg_ | HUNGRY [16:43:13] BillDueber | Think about "Don't Panic" in big red letters [16:43:13] LibraryThingT | Wonderful website. [16:43:15] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:43:18] paulalbert | hiss!!! [16:43:18] ejk | thisiswhyyourefat.com++ [16:43:22] LibraryThingT | Good. Humor is good. [16:43:23] JodiS | Content + humor FTW [16:43:28] BigD | abarrera just rushed the screeb [16:43:29] anarchivist | thisiswhyyourefat.com++ [16:43:30] ecorrado | reminds me of the greese trucks on college ave [16:43:40] * jtgorman tries to pretend he's in the audience, but fails [16:43:41] abarrera | grease_trucks++ [16:43:42] liza31337 | zed++ [16:43:47] mjg_ | grease_trucks++ [16:43:48] edsu | MikeTaylor++ [16:43:48] akorphan | mjg_ didn't have a big enough sandwich at lunch. [16:43:49] anarchivist | http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/post/78824397/the-mcnuggetini-a-mcdonalds-chocolate-milkshake [16:43:53] JodiS | @ana refined taste in spellchecking [16:43:55] zoia | JodiS: Fleeting, dance-like sphincters [16:43:59] anarchivist | zoia-- [16:43:59] ---| <<-- ruest [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d44824f64aa6e08] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:44:01] ---| ---> mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2357dd0e881d9115] has joined #code4lib [16:44:07] JodiS | zoia's gotten good at the anagram [16:44:13] scolford | thisiswhyyourefat.com++ [16:44:16] fak3r | tab space wonky [16:44:17] rsinger | y'know -- why reinvent YAML? [16:44:22] liza31337 | See, spaces over tabs [16:44:31] JodiS | what is this 1=1016? [16:44:32] fak3r | thisiswhyyourcolumsarefat.com [16:44:37] jfereira | MikeTaylor++ [16:44:37] JodiS | fak3r++ [16:44:40] mjg_ | Ford Torus [16:44:42] fak3r | it's tArus [16:44:42] rsinger | JodiS: THAT IS YR PQN [16:44:43] JodiS | MikeTaylor++ [16:44:45] liza31337 | fak3r++ [16:44:51] ecorrado | space++ [16:45:05] rsinger | JodiS: SURCHIN YR RPN ZED TARGETS [16:45:18] jbrinley | drupal+food tonight, right? [16:45:23] dbs | IN SOVIET RUSSIA, THE NOTATION REVERSES YOU [16:45:24] rsinger | @kgs Those are Bib-1 Attributes [16:45:24] zoia | rsinger: nosrsly, Those are Bib-1 Attributes [16:45:26] * anarchivist should have talked about NYPLES [16:45:32] fak3r | jbrinley++ [16:45:35] jtgorman | `dbs: I thought that was poland [16:45:46] ecorrado | IN SOCIET RUSSIA, BACON EATS YOU [16:45:46] abarrera | http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/post/81130102/chicken-fried-bacon-with-gravy-submitted-by [16:45:52] jfereira | drupal+food, where? [16:45:53] fak3r | in soviet russia, talks lighting you [16:46:17] MrDys | lightning talk cheat [16:46:19] fak3r | cheating-- [16:46:19] andyashton | wait a minute...this is cheating! [16:46:20] LibraryThingT | A new method! [16:46:21] BillDueber | Oooo. Chained Lightening Talks [16:46:24] mib_xxmepy6r | i can haz metasearchin'? [16:46:28] fak3r | lets all walk out in protest [16:46:28] jbrinley | drupal+food: lobby at 18:00? [16:46:32] andyashton | BillDueber++ [16:46:33] liza31337 | FOUR MINUTES [16:46:35] LibraryThingT | How many employees does LibraryThing have here? Hmm..... [16:46:36] MrDys | @whatis chain lightning [16:46:38] fak3r | OO.org ftw [16:46:39] edsu | index_data++ # gaming the system [16:46:39] zoia | MrDys: ' lastAlbum: \'\' Prime Time\'\'
(1977); released: 1978; abstract: All trracks composed by Don McLean; except where indicated "Words and Music" "Crying" (Roy Orbison, Joe Melson) "It\'s Just the Sun" "Lotta Lovin\'" "Chain Lightning" "Your Cheatin\' Heart" "Wonderful Night" "It Doesn\'t Matter Anymore" "Since I Don\'t Have You" "Genesis " "It\'s a Beautiful (2 more messages) [16:46:40] JodiS | PDF talks recommended [16:46:46] cbarr | Does anyone know how much a ticket for Tokyo Police Club show is? [16:46:48] steambadger | Tag team lightening talks [16:46:51] anarchivist | pdf++ [16:46:54] fak3r | cbarr: 9.95$ [16:46:57] akorphan | resolution_mismatch-- [16:47:00] andyashton | Cue Jeopardy theme [16:47:01] LibraryThingT | I'm going to do two, one in an English accent. [16:47:07] dbs | STEAL INDEXDATA'S CODE TO PUNISH THEM! [16:47:14] ejk | I'm up for drupal+food. [16:47:20] fak3r | I'm still up for rawk show - not sure how late it'll be though 2 opening bands [16:47:21] JodiS | LibraryThingTim: only if you come up with a costume so we can't tell you're the same person both times [16:47:38] fak3r | ejk: drupal with food module installed has been approved [16:47:41] jbrinley | JodiS: he just needs glasses/no glasses [16:47:41] LibraryThingT | If I wear a dress, Code4Lib owes me an extra minute. [16:47:41] mib_xxmepy6r | where is tokyo police playing? [16:47:48] BillDueber | jbrinley++ [16:47:49] anarchivist | mib_xxmepy6r: lupos [16:47:50] JodiS | jbrinley: good thought [16:47:52] abarrera | LibraryThingTim: I suggest a darth vader costume with an OCLC t-shirt on [16:47:54] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-43db0ac1cc91dbd6] has joined #code4lib [16:48:01] lbjay | this is bogus. i'm going to go hang with gsf's gf. [16:48:02] BillDueber | LibraryThingTim: If you wear a dress, you'll have no audience [16:48:07] jrochkind100 | that torus thing is neat. [16:48:08] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data [16:48:09] rsinger | LibraryThingTim: if you wear a dress, you get 5 minutes in a dress [16:48:09] JodiS | real tori! :) [16:48:10] fak3r | mib_xxmepy6r: lupo's, it's about 3/4 of the way to trinity brew [16:48:17] jrochkind100 | what's the business model for this? How do I use it? [16:48:19] royt | anyone catch this guy's name? [16:48:19] JodiS | so what are these tori? [16:48:21] scolford | LibraryThingTim: I get to do your makeup. [16:48:26] anarchivist | JodiS: donuts [16:48:30] fak3r | royt: hans? [16:48:32] LibraryThingT | It's too bad this isn't about fusion toruses. [16:48:32] akorphan | bagels [16:48:33] dlovins | Inner tubes [16:48:39] liza31337 | Last time I was at Lupo's was like 10+ years ago [16:48:39] royt | fak3r: thks [16:48:42] jfereira | inner tubers [16:48:48] JodiS | anarchivist: no, what ARE they (I know what a torus is... bacon donuts notwithstanding) [16:48:52] akorphan | Liza31337: It's at the Strand now. [16:48:55] lbjay | 3. Donuts [16:48:58] fak3r | liza31337: think it's a late show? [16:48:59] akorphan | The old building was condemned or something. [16:49:12] jstroop | nyc.code4lib-ers, is there a plan for this evening? [16:49:13] LibraryThingT | Anyone know the best bookstores in town? Independent or used. [16:49:16] anarchivist | JodiS: they represent search targets [16:49:17] rsinger | lbjay: i think that was valid ruby you just typed [16:49:18] liza31337 | I can believe that [16:49:22] rsinger | 3.donuts.eated [16:49:24] bess | anyone else feeling overwhelmed by all this? I already had a pretty heavy workload, now I have a notebook full of new technologies to learn, people to write to, stuff to try. I guess it's a good problem to have, but damn I need a glass of wine. [16:49:28] BillDueber | JodiS: As near as I can tell, name=value pairs with individual values overridable [16:49:30] MrDys | LibraryThingTim: I think there's a couple on the googlemap that's linked on the conf buzz wiki page [16:49:30] gbilder | Cellar stories is good used bookstore. [16:49:33] * lbjay adds ruby to resume [16:49:34] mib_xxmepy6r | Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel www.lupos.com 79 Washington St [16:49:37] fak3r | bess: yes, bring back some cartoons [16:49:39] akorphan | LibraryThingTim: Cellar Stories, downcity [16:49:46] akorphan | or, kind of downcity. [16:49:47] fak3r | power_puff_girls++ [16:49:49] JodiS | BillDueber ok, that fits with the 1=2078 thing from before which I didn't get [16:49:58] rsinger | APIs SUCK! [16:49:59] harmless | FYI we're opensourcing this [16:50:00] anarchivist | z39.50++ [16:50:02] jtgorman | bess: i'm always feeling behind on the tehcnology curve ;) [16:50:05] anarchivist | harmless++ [16:50:08] anarchivist | indexdata++ [16:50:10] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-af3d54b8ce4d35ff] has joined #code4lib [16:50:16] MrDys | zed39.50++ [16:50:19] BillDueber | @karma z39.50 [16:50:20] zoia | BillDueber: Karma for "z39.50" has been increased 3 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -1. [16:50:28] anarchivist | @canuck z39.50 [16:50:30] fak3r | "My husband, some hotshot, here's his ancient Chinese secret!" [16:50:30] zoia | anarchivist: zed39.50, eh? [16:50:31] mjg_ | bess++ # wine. [16:50:36] steambadger | I want my search data wrapped in a ten-dimensional torus. [16:50:37] harmless | And that was skoczko [16:50:43] fak3r | lead with the positive! [16:50:44] anarchivist | YES [16:50:45] lbjay | yes! [16:50:45] fak3r | ;) [16:50:46] akorphan | bad_idea++ [16:50:46] scolford | mbklein++ [16:50:48] LibraryThingT | LibraryThing Local page is all libraries. Need more bookstores. (http://www.librarything.com/local/place/Providence,%20RI) [16:50:48] rsinger | THIS IS ON [16:50:51] abarrera | mbklein++ [16:50:52] JodiS | who was the second index data speaker, following Mike Taylor? [16:50:52] akorphan | HI MOM! [16:50:54] ejk | ruh-roh [16:50:56] fak3r | hello? can you see me now? [16:50:56] BillDueber | Bad Idea Jeans [16:50:57] bess | mbklein++ [16:50:59] BigD | DONKEY KONG! [16:51:00] lbjay | what could go wrong? [16:51:04] fak3r | *smiles* [16:51:06] abarrera | dongle [16:51:13] LibraryThingT | Why is this onscreen? [16:51:14] ecorrado | nothing can go wrong [16:51:20] edsu | @tardis yesterday [16:51:20] ---| ---> eom [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bfb657cc721f303c] has joined #code4lib [16:51:21] zoia | edsu: When Do Make Met Say Think? [16:51:22] LibraryThingT | RDF irritates me [16:51:24] wickr | LibraryThingTim: they're going to show the plugin [16:51:26] steambadger | It's all perfectly simple [16:51:29] harmless | JodiS: Jakub Skoczen [16:51:31] edsu | LibraryThingTim: you irritate me [16:51:32] ecorrado | @karma blank_sceen [16:51:33] zoia | ecorrado: blank_sceen has neutral karma. [16:51:35] fak3r | realm mentioned [16:51:36] JodiS | harmless++ [16:51:38] JodiS | tap-tap-tap... is this thing on? [16:51:49] anarchivist | michaeldb++ #thanks for emailing BT [16:51:53] fak3r | contrast setting bad? [16:51:55] michaeldb | no problem [16:51:59] akorphan | you may be talking about the same verb, but are you using that token to represent the same action? [16:52:04] LibraryThingT | :arrow to heart [16:52:07] fak3r | "what could go wrong?" [16:52:07] akorphan | fail++ [16:52:08] BillDueber | Supreme > Epic? [16:52:14] michaeldb | anarchivist++ # thanks for thanking me? :) [16:52:14] wtd | IRC FAIL. [16:52:14] edsu | LibraryThingTim: nothing personal ;-) [16:52:15] fak3r | YHF [16:52:15] ecorrado | the irc gods know this is a bad idea [16:52:17] BigD | anarchivist should be giving this talk too [16:52:22] anarchivist | BigD++ [16:52:28] scolford | smile and show your legs mbklein! [16:52:28] abarrera | computer switch < IBAHN [16:52:29] fak3r | can you see ok from the back? [16:52:29] akorphan | I blame ibahn [16:52:29] steambadger | Everybody log off as soon as they get the projector up. [16:52:32] ejk | Should have used a mac [16:52:33] rsinger | edsu: I find you a major asshole [16:52:33] zoia | /me does warmup exercises [16:52:36] rsinger | edsu: nothing personal [16:52:39] jrochkind100 | he warned us it was a bad idea. [16:52:44] fak3r | :) [16:52:45] edsu | rsinger: no argument [16:52:46] anarchivist | oclc: monetizing #code4lib since 2006 [16:52:48] mjg_ | royt to the rescue [16:52:51] BigD | he set low expectations [16:52:57] BigD | and met them [16:53:01] BillDueber | royt springs -- springs I tell you! -- into action [16:53:02] rsinger | edsu: also you dont know shit about the work of steve perry [16:53:03] akorphan | AUGH! [16:53:04] mib_xxmepy6r | IN SOVIET RUSSIA LIGHTNING TALK IS ON IRC CHANNEL [16:53:04] abarrera | Foaf = BigD's dinner [16:53:04] ecorrado | hi kat3 [16:53:06] fak3r | sliced foaf++ [16:53:07] rsinger | oops [16:53:08] anarchivist | STEVE PERRY [16:53:10] fak3r | :) [16:53:12] mjg_ | FONT UP. [16:53:13] royt | zoia say "Hi" [16:53:14] zoia | royt: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [16:53:15] LibraryThingT | Hey mom. [16:53:15] emcrens | Can I just say this is the first time I've been on TV? [16:53:16] akorphan | If you can read this, you're sitting too close. [16:53:18] wtd | Hi Mom! [16:53:23] JodiS | akorphan++ [16:53:23] ---| ---> ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-68333f8751333ad1] has joined #code4lib [16:53:25] mikeybe | im going to disneyland!!! [16:53:27] anarchivist | u can't multitouch this [16:53:34] JodiS | @knows mbklein jbrinley [16:53:35] zoia | JodiS: I don't know jbrinley's URI [16:53:36] wickr | akorphan: I'm in the back though [16:53:36] fak3r | hey, I'm on tv! [16:53:39] BigD | what's for dinner? [16:53:39] scolford | mbklein nose jbrimley [16:53:40] akorphan | I can see my house from here! [16:53:41] mjg_ | mbklein: putting the FAIL in FOAF since 2009. [16:53:45] JodiS | @known [16:53:45] erikhatcher | jbrinley++ [16:53:46] zoia JodiS: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, royt, rsinger, scolford, wickr, wtd, zoia [16:53:47] fak3r | bots++ [16:53:50] atz | now i don't have to ask if my posts are doubling up [16:53:51] * JodiS waves to zoia [16:53:51] ---| User: *** ksclarke is now known as Guest3540 [16:53:51] abarrera | @insult zoia [16:53:52] royt | @pirate [sing [randtune]] [16:53:53] zoia | zoia: You are nothing but a weather-bitten assload of inept snake. [16:53:53] paulalbert | If you can read me on the screen, you have bionic vision. [16:53:53] ---| ---> asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-64738200f520c24e] has joined #code4lib [16:53:55] akorphan | @karma zoia [16:53:56] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "zoia" has been increased 538 times and decreased 153 times for a total karma of 385. [16:53:57] zoia | royt: No lyrics fer We will never happen it Out by Saturday Looks jolly to Me. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [16:54:03] ---| User: *** Guest3540 is now known as _ksclarke [16:54:04] * zoia waves [16:54:06] fak3r | can you hear me know? [16:54:06] steambadger | Is this thing on? [16:54:09] zoia | i am updating my foaf profile right now!!!! [16:54:14] ---| ---> mib_bynnpmgz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b6bd5ac7625c87b9] has joined #code4lib [16:54:15] JodiS | zoia++ [16:54:17] BigD | snarky comment [16:54:18] lbjay | jbrinley++ mbklein++ [16:54:21] LibraryThingT | Right. 1/6 of people. [16:54:22] mjg_ | @sing steve perry : Oh Shery [16:54:22] JodiS | @know mbklein zoia [16:54:23] zoia | JodiS: Error: 'zoia' is not a valid url. [16:54:24] royt | @know http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [16:54:25] zoia | isn't mbklein dreamy???? [16:54:26] zoia | mjg_: No lyrics for Oh Shery by steve perry. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [16:54:26] steambadger | Hey, see that little green spot up there? That's me! [16:54:28] zoia | royt: royt's URI is now [16:54:28] fak3r | steve perry-- [16:54:30] abarrera | they know each other in the biblical sense [16:54:30] MikeTaylor | If anyone wants to download the Torus presentation, you can get it from http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tmp/torus.ppt [16:54:31] mjg_ | @sing steve perry : Oh Sherrie [16:54:32] ---| <<-- phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m6e5e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ("used jmIrc") [16:54:33] zoia | Oh I must've been a dreamer (a dreamer, oh) / And I must've been someone else (someone else) / And we should've been over (by now) / Oh Sherrie, our love [16:54:34] JodiS | @knows mbklein zoia [16:54:35] wtd | @knows wtd edsu [16:54:35] zoia | wtd: I don't know edsu's URI [16:54:36] zoia | JodiS: mbklein does not know zoia, but zoia knows mbklein. [16:54:38] fak3r | I odn't g [16:54:39] scolford | @known scolford zoia [16:54:40] zoia | scolford: (known []) -- Returns the URI associated with the given nick. Defaults to the calling user. If no nick given, returns a list of nicks which have an associated URI. [16:54:41] mjg_ | @knows mbklein mjg_ [16:54:42] zoia | mjg_: mbklein and mjg_ know each other. [16:54:45] royt | @knows royt mbklein [16:54:47] zoia | royt: royt and mbklein know each other. [16:54:48] zoia | everyone shut up for a second [16:54:49] gsf | jbrinley: can you font up? [16:54:56] rsinger | @foaf mbklein interests [16:54:57] zoia | rsinger: mbklein : [16:55:02] ---| ---> Timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65b8e2bcd97581d8] has joined #code4lib [16:55:02] mjg_ | @know soup for mbklein [16:55:03] zoia | mjg_: Error: 'for' is not a valid url. [16:55:03] fak3r | bigger font ftw [16:55:05] ---| ---> mib_f91rqxja [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-39933732b628b5d3] has joined #code4lib [16:55:10] ---| ---> gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3cae15dd5a07078e] has joined #code4lib [16:55:12] gsf | @foaf interests mbklein [16:55:13] akorphan | @no zoia bad bot no cookie [16:55:13] zoia | gsf: I don't know interests's URI. [16:55:14] royt | @forget royt [16:55:14] zoia | akorphan: shut up and read your ngc4lib [16:55:16] BigD | @known [16:55:16] zoia | royt: OK, I've forgotten royt's URI [16:55:16] abarrera | @knows code4lib roythong [16:55:17] rsinger | @foaf mbklein interest [16:55:17] smkiewel | @know http://www.unyeildingloyalty.com/shawn/foaf.rdf#me [16:55:17] zoia BigD: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, rsinger, scolford, wickr, wtd, zoia [16:55:17] lbjay | @wordstats font [16:55:19] zoia | abarrera: I don't know code4lib's URI [16:55:20] zoia | smkiewel: smkiewel's URI is now [16:55:20] zoia | rsinger: mbklein : , , , , , , , , , (1 more message) [16:55:21] paulalbert | OPTION-COMMAND-EQUALS (zoom function) [16:55:22] royt | @known [16:55:23] zoia | lbjay: Top 3 "font"ers (out of a total of 6 "font"s seen): JodiS: 3, gsf: 2, and lbjay: 1. [16:55:24] fak3r | why am I watching the screen up there? [16:55:25] zoia royt: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, wickr, wtd, zoia [16:55:25] MikeTaylor | This stupid zoia person keeps chipping in all the time and ruining the demo. [16:55:29] skoczko | @known [16:55:29] zoia skoczko: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, wickr, wtd, zoia [16:55:31] akorphan | dark_blue_on_black-- [16:55:31] royt | @known mbklein [16:55:32] rsinger | ASTRONOMY?! What a nerd [16:55:33] zoia | royt: mbklein's URI is [16:55:34] mjg_ | GOOD GOD I'M DROWNING IN FOAF [16:55:35] fak3r | @known fak3r [16:55:36] zoia | fak3r: fak3r's URI is [16:55:39] anarchivist | hyper-meta-meta-cokebottle-i [16:55:40] cbeer | dark_blue_on_black-- [16:55:41] royt | @foaf knows mbklein [16:55:41] zoia | royt: (foaf knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [16:55:46] lbjay | "Help, I'm trapped in a tiny IRC channel" [16:55:48] fak3r | #foaf interests fak3r [16:55:50] royt | @foaf interest mbklein [16:55:51] zoia | royt: I don't know interest's URI. [16:55:51] dlovins | @known dlovins [16:55:52] BigD | @foaf interests [16:55:53] zoia | dlovins: I don't know dlovins's URI [16:55:54] zoia | BigD: (foaf ) -- Returns the objects of the given predicate in the given nick's FOAF. [16:55:58] wtd | This isn't geeky enough. I thought this conference was about geekery. [16:56:00] royt | @foaf mbklein interest [16:56:01] zoia | royt: mbklein : , , , , , , , , , (1 more message) [16:56:09] mib_xxmepy6r | <--- never knew zoia was a bot... just assumed she was very knowledgable [16:56:10] fak3r | #foaf fak3r interest [16:56:11] BigD | foe of a foe file [16:56:12] mjg_ | Foafbusters! [16:56:15] Timmcgeary | hey I'm using this on my iTouch!!!! [16:56:16] LibraryThingT | Hey, I've represented human relationships in a binary way! [16:56:16] lbjay | bye [16:56:18] mjg_ | BigD++ [16:56:18] liza31337 | Say all the snarky things in blue font [16:56:22] akorphan | big_screen_irc++ [16:56:24] ---| ---> jstirnaman [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e5cbb73a18f2872a] has joined #code4lib [16:56:26] ---| <<-- mib_bynnpmgz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b6bd5ac7625c87b9] has quit (Client Quit) [16:56:26] fak3r | I ain't afraid of no foaf! [16:56:30] abarrera | @insult foaf [16:56:31] mib_f91rqxja | @foaf common escowles BigD [16:56:31] anarchivist | when i think about youtube iTouch myself [16:56:33] zoia | foaf: You are nothing but a warped coagulation of elf-skinned assholes. [16:56:34] zoia | mib_f91rqxja: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [16:56:35] ---| <--- gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3cae15dd5a07078e] has left #code4lib () [16:56:37] ---| User: *** mib_f91rqxja is now known as escowles [16:56:38] steambadger | Are they gone? [16:56:38] mjg_ | @sing Meatfoaf [16:56:40] fak3r | anarchivist++ [16:56:40] zoia | mjg_: No songs found by Meatfoaf [16:56:43] zoia | royt: you're smarter about foaf than you look [16:56:44] akorphan | @karma dark_blue_on_black [16:56:45] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "dark_blue_on_black" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3. [16:56:51] ---| ---> mib_bynnpmgz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fcbe77e58ce882c] has joined #code4lib [16:56:55] fak3r | that's false [16:56:57] jstroop | @know http://anearalone.com/foaf.rdf#me [16:56:58] zoia | jstroop: jstroop's URI is now [16:56:58] lbjay | royt: you got salted! [16:56:58] mjg_ | royt: burn. [16:57:01] LibraryThingT | snort [16:57:05] mib_xxmepy6r | @sing tom waits [16:57:06] BillDueber | STD: Unfortunate acronym [16:57:09] zoia | He has no friends / His lawn is dying / And what are those packages he sends? / What's he building in there? [16:57:15] edsu | damn, i didn't know the STG still existed [16:57:15] jbrinley | royt: sorry, you'll have to fix your uri [16:57:33] anarchivist | bibliophile! [16:57:37] asnagy | @know http://andrew.webitecture.org/foaf.rdf#me [16:57:37] zoia | asnagy: asnagy's URI is now [16:57:38] gsf | i'm impressed that @mf didn't show up during that demo [16:57:38] liza31337 | @know http://threepress.org/static/foaf.rdf#me [16:57:39] zoia | liza31337: liza31337's URI is now [16:57:42] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [16:57:44] LibraryThingT | bibulous. [16:57:45] dbs | gsf++ [16:57:50] jphipps | @know http://managemetadata/jon/foaf.rdf#me [16:57:50] zoia | jphipps: jphipps's URI is now [16:57:50] ---| <<-- mib_bynnpmgz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fcbe77e58ce882c] has quit (Client Quit) [16:57:51] mjg_ | gsf++ # forgot :( [16:57:53] abarrera | BigD @eat meatloaf [16:57:54] dlovins | Who's speaking now? [16:57:54] ---| ---> godmar [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b33fa56e2f3f40ac] has joined #code4lib [16:57:54] ---| ---> mib_eme7me5h [i=46a41956@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f77395c451c00490] has joined #code4lib [16:58:03] akorphan | Some guy with facial hair. [16:58:04] ---| ---> cliff_ [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [16:58:07] fak3r | dlovins: eric from brown [16:58:07] ecorrado | @know http://ecorrado.us/foaf.rdf#me [16:58:08] zoia | ecorrado: ecorrado's URI is now [16:58:09] kgs | @lolz [wunder pvd] [16:58:10] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8e0dd3bdb6a0ae0] has joined #code4lib [16:58:11] cbeer | @karma xforms [16:58:11] zoia | cbeer: Karma for "xforms" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. [16:58:12] BillDueber | dlovins: andyashton [16:58:12] zoia | kgs: TEH CURRENT TEMPERACHUR IN PROVIDENCE, RHODE ISLAND IZ 33.8°F (4:51 PM EST ON FEBRUARY 24, 2009). CONDISHUNS: PARTLY CLOUDY. HUMIDITY: 34%. DEW POINT: 8.6°F. WINDCHILL: 24.8°F. PRESURE: 30.21 IN 1023 HPA (RISIN). [16:58:15] mjg_ | andyashton I believe his name is? [16:58:18] rsinger | @sing journey : who's cryin' now [16:58:21] zoia | Love will survive somehow, some way / One love feeds the fire / One heart burns desire / I wonder who's crying now [16:58:22] * mbklein sighs [16:58:26] dlovins | BillDueber: Thanks. [16:58:31] mpark | Andy Ashton [16:58:34] dbs | mbklein+_ [16:58:38] dbs | err, mbklein++ [16:58:39] JodiS | mpark++ [16:58:41] lbjay | demos_on_localhost++ [16:58:43] rsinger | edsu: couldn't you just hear the neil schon all over that?! [16:58:47] jbrinley | sorry for the problems, everyone. It would have been much bigger if my computer worked. [16:58:49] fak3r | anyone know the guys nick? [16:58:49] scolford | mbklein: I was expecting a patter song. [16:58:53] atz | @knoa http://arwen.metavore.com/~atz/foaf.rdf [16:58:55] zoia | atz: Is that some kind of lame attempt at witty banter? Whatevs. [16:58:55] ---| <<-- Timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65b8e2bcd97581d8] has quit (Client Quit) [16:58:56] ecorrado | book give away coming up! [16:58:58] mjg_ | http://lackoftalent.org/michael/linkeddata.html [16:59:00] fak3r | tell him to open the mibbit tab! [16:59:01] lbjay | @insult jbrinley's computer [16:59:01] zoia | jbrinley's computer: You are nothing but a low-quality accumulation of evil hair. [16:59:02] BigD | mpark-- for leaving me at the airport [16:59:03] rsinger | andyashton: ping [16:59:03] BigD | ;) [16:59:05] mib_xxmepy6r | @sing rick astley [16:59:05] atz | @know http://arwen.metavore.com/~atz/foaf.rdf [16:59:06] zoia | atz: atz's URI is now [16:59:07] rsinger | no growl [16:59:09] zoia | It's much to late for you to change your ways / I can't keep holding on expecting you to stay / When you're all alone and if you're feeling down / I'll be, I'll be around [16:59:12] LibraryThingT | np. interesting idea, even if I disagree with FOAF. [16:59:15] anarchivist | mjg_++ [16:59:15] jbrinley | @ana accumulation of evil hair [16:59:15] fak3r | BigD++ [16:59:16] zoia | jbrinley: Humiliate laconic favour [16:59:19] akorphan | ecorrado: my %$@%!#% foaf still won't foaf. [16:59:22] akorphan | I blame cazzerson. [16:59:28] mpark | airport++ [16:59:32] jbrinley | @known royt [16:59:32] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know royt's URI [16:59:35] ecorrado | @insult royt's font [16:59:36] zoia | royt's font: You are nothing but a swag-bellied petrification of squishy eel. [16:59:41] anarchivist | @known anarchivist [16:59:42] zoia | anarchivist: anarchivist's URI is [16:59:45] abarrera | mjg_++ [16:59:48] dlovins | @know http://www.library.yale.edu/~dlovins/foaf.rdf#me [16:59:48] MrDys | @known MrDys [16:59:48] zoia | dlovins: dlovins's URI is now [16:59:50] zoia | MrDys: MrDys's URI is [16:59:50] atz | @foaf atz interests [16:59:50] BigD | mpark: where's dinner? [16:59:51] zoia | atz: atz : [16:59:57] MrDys | @foaf MrDys interests [16:59:58] zoia | MrDys: MrDys : [17:00:07] fak3r | no api? ok, let's not see it! [17:00:09] MrDys | I have interests, dammit [17:00:10] anarchivist | @foaf anarchivist interests [17:00:12] zoia | anarchivist: anarchivist : [17:00:14] mpark | BigD: dunno I only live here [17:00:14] kgs | @lolz [known] [17:00:20] zoia kgs: I KNOE URIS 4 DA FOLLOWIN USERS: BAROQUEM, BIGD, BILLDUEBR, JODIS, MRDYS, ABARRERA, AKORFAN, ANARCHIVIST, ASNAGY, ATZ, BES, CAZZERSON, CBER, CHARPR, DLOVINS, ECORRADO, EJK, ESCOWLEZ, FAK3R, FLIGHTY, GSF, JFIPPS, JSTROOP, KGS, KSCLARKE, LBJAY, LIZA31337, MBKLEIN, MJG_, PMURRAY, RANTI, RSINGR, SCOLFORD, SMKIEWEL, WICKR, WTD, ZOIA [17:00:25] ---| <<-- MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6633ebaca1a238fb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:00:30] mjg_ | @sing Steve Perry : Foolish Heart [17:00:30] escowles | @known zoia [17:00:30] zoia | escowles: zoia's URI is [17:00:32] fak3r | one two, buckle my shoe [17:00:34] zoia | But will my lonely heart play the part / Of the fool again / Before I begin / Foolish heart, hear me calling [17:00:34] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fcfb3eab1bc50571] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:00:41] anarchivist | @lolz [pirate [jive [zen]] [17:00:41] ---| <<-- godmar [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b33fa56e2f3f40ac] has quit (Client Quit) [17:00:41] zoia | anarchivist: Error: Missing "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. [17:00:44] anarchivist | @lolz [pirate [jive [zen]]] [17:00:50] jrochkind100 | That FOAF plugin for zoia is a fun toy I guess, but is it actually useful for ANYTHING? [17:00:53] zoia | Seung Sahn: DE WAN HOO PRAISEZ YA BE DIEF. WUT IT BE, MAMA! DE WAN HOO CRITICIZEZ YA BE YO TRUE HOMEY. [17:00:56] akorphan | rickroll++ [17:00:58] lbjay | that++ [17:00:59] harmless | i'm a newb here, is this channel and bot persistent? [17:00:59] abarrera | apa-- [17:01:00] mbklein | @knows mbklein anarchivist [17:01:00] fak3r | what was this talk about?' [17:01:02] zoia | mbklein: mbklein knows anarchivist, but anarchivist does not know mbklein. [17:01:02] rsinger | dchud++ [17:01:06] LibraryThingT | Nice. [17:01:06] abarrera | harmless: yes [17:01:09] anarchivist | @lolz [pirate [jive [zen]]] [17:01:12] fak3r | harmless: yes [17:01:12] mjg_ | jrochkind100: lernin' [17:01:12] mbklein | @knows zoia mbklein [17:01:14] zoia | Shunryu Suzuki: DE MOST IMPOTANT POINT BE 2 ACCEPT YOSELF N STAND ON YO PAIR FEET. [17:01:15] MrDys | @knows MrDys anarchivist [17:01:16] jrochkind100 | harmless: Somebody may be logging it, but no one is guaranteed to log it. [17:01:16] zoia | mbklein: zoia knows mbklein, but mbklein does not know zoia. [17:01:17] zoia | MrDys: MrDys does not know anarchivist, but anarchivist knows MrDys. [17:01:18] harmless | abarrera: cool. i might visit. [17:01:20] jtgorman | harmless: relentless in the least [17:01:22] fak3r | harmless: it's not just for breakfast anymore [17:01:24] mbklein | @knows zoia gsf [17:01:24] kgs | I thought zoia was a real person when I was new to this channel [17:01:25] BigD | harmless: yep - persistently obnoxious [17:01:25] akorphan | fak3r: automatic importing and dumping of citations and stuff, I think [17:01:26] zoia | mbklein: zoia knows gsf, but gsf does not know zoia. [17:01:37] gsf | gotta change that [17:01:40] mbklein @common interest anarchivist mbklein lbjay [17:01:41] jtgorman | s/in/at/ [17:01:41] zoia | mbklein: [17:01:46] scolford | kgs: are you sure she's not? [17:01:47] fak3r | color'd tabs in safari? "the goggles, they do nothing!" [17:01:48] jtgorman | kgs: she fools a lot of people [17:01:50] mjg_ | mbklein++ [17:01:51] ejk | rainbow tabs [17:01:56] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:01:57] MrDys | color coded tabs, neat [17:01:58] jtgorman | kgs: and her ana are scary at times [17:02:00] JodiS | does NO ONE introduce themselves? [17:02:01] fak3r | biger [17:02:01] LibraryThingT | I thought it was Zola. Alas. [17:02:01] akorphan | cane_toad++ [17:02:02] anarchivist | @common interest anarchivist cazzerson [17:02:04] zoia | anarchivist: [17:02:10] anarchivist | JodiS: naomi dushay, stanford [17:02:10] rsinger | because she's smarter and more mature than most of us [17:02:13] mbklein | anarchivist: See? It's a party planning tool! [17:02:17] LibraryThingT | Oh, that's a great book! [17:02:17] fak3r | little_bear++ [17:02:21] fak3r | bad_results-- [17:02:21] mbklein | @predicates mbklein mjg_ [17:02:22] zoia | mbklein: Relationships asserted by mbklein about mjg_: , [17:02:24] wickr | fak3r: that's Firefox isn't it? [17:02:25] LibraryThingT | little_bear++ [17:02:25] JodiS | "assault with a deadly donut" [17:02:26] atz | deadly_donut++ [17:02:33] fak3r | I think they've been trolled [17:02:37] mib_eme7me5h | mmm donuts [17:02:41] JodiS | thanks anarchivist! :) ndushay++ [17:02:41] MrDys | @band add Deadly Donut [17:02:41] zoia | MrDys: Band 'Deadly Donut' added to list [17:02:59] mjg_ | Lessons from today: 1. Say your name. 2. Font up like crazy. [17:03:00] fak3r | wickr: I think yr right, ABP and all...just safari skin [17:03:06] abarrera | deadly_donut++ # precisely how i'll kill BigD [17:03:06] LibraryThingT | Similar items is all about quantity of data. [17:03:09] MrDys | @band [17:03:10] zoia | MrDys: Five Llamas Live [17:03:11] mjg_ | 3. Don't let mornos have iPhones. [17:03:12] mbklein | @dunno add Font up! [17:03:13] zoia | mbklein: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [17:03:15] BigD | mjg_ 3. Profit [17:03:20] LibraryThingT | Why nameless? [17:03:29] fak3r | 4. say iphones are so 2008 - pass it on [17:03:30] akorphan | librarythingtim: I think she means "unnamed" [17:03:34] gsf | mbklein: wait, i have http://rc98.net/zoia#me in my foaf [17:03:35] mbklein | @dunno add Font up! [17:03:36] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Dunno #301 added. [17:03:37] akorphan | as in "to avoid embarrasment" [17:03:43] LibraryThingT | It could be because if said, they appear. [17:03:48] BigD | abarrera: i think ninja donuts are already attacking yer heart [17:03:51] abarrera | blackberries are so 1999 [17:03:52] mbklein | @known zoia [17:03:52] zoia | mbklein: zoia's URI is [17:03:56] wtd | No-one ever names vendors. I think we should. [17:03:57] fak3r | "hi, I'm mumble,mumble...." [17:03:57] mjg_ | @aussie foods in australia [17:03:58] zoia | mjg_: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! [17:03:58] mbklein | gsf: Wrong URI [17:04:06] gsf | mbklein: ah, ok thx mbklein++ [17:04:09] rsinger | and getting them to say xinyDisriS is so hard [17:04:12] akorphan | Ok, who is this person? [17:04:19] fak3r | slow_performance!++ [17:04:19] LibraryThingT | Libraries sometimes behave as if the vendors are paying *them*. [17:04:22] mib_xxmepy6r | looks nice... [17:04:26] anarchivist | akorphan: naomi dushay, stanford university [17:04:30] akorphan | thanks [17:04:31] atz | call number browse.... actually *easier* to do across all libraries than on just one [17:04:38] mbklein | gsf: 'cause you know zoia will never let you hear the end of it if you deny her. [17:04:38] fak3r | as long as the code is slow, that's my main requirement. [17:04:43] abarrera | BigD: they would be ninja bacon donuts with bbq sauce, cheese and jalopenos [17:04:56] LibraryThingT | If a library is going to do call-number browse across libraries, there's no reason to do it in your own call-number system. [17:04:56] gsf | @knows zoia gsf [17:04:56] anarchivist | abarrera: ninja bacon donut nachos [17:04:58] zoia | gsf: zoia and gsf know each other. [17:05:02] fak3r | no_consistancy--- [17:05:04] mbklein | gsf++ [17:05:07] BigD | nudibranches [17:05:15] fak3r | rated PG-13? [17:05:25] jtgorman | atz: uuhhh [17:05:30] mib_xxmepy6r | http://searchworks-test.stanford.edu/vufind/ [17:05:32] LibraryThingT | "Too much kissing?" <--- real quote from Little Bear, and perhaps Henry Miller. [17:05:34] fak3r | let's see, looks bad, slow code - job well done! [17:05:38] mjg_ | Would have been nice to be able to read that. [17:05:41] lbjay | @knows zoia lbjay [17:05:43] zoia | lbjay: zoia knows lbjay, but lbjay does not know zoia. [17:05:49] jtgorman | atz: did I miss something? Call number browse is easier over multiple libraries? Are we assuming that they all use the same call number system? [17:05:57] fak3r | what does this developer get paid to do? [17:06:05] LibraryThingT | But waht's wrong with that? [17:06:09] mjg_ | Cheney is still a staunch supporter of donutboarding. [17:06:13] LibraryThingT | Is the prblem the software or the cataloging? [17:06:16] liza31337 | Uh [17:06:19] andyashton | mmmm. Donutboarding [17:06:21] jtgorman | we use about three or four ourselves [17:06:27] cazzerson | twitter.com:"You have been rate limited. Enhance your calm." [17:06:29] fak3r | they want irrelevant results more than anything apparently... [17:06:31] atz | jtgorman: no, it's easy to do exactly what she did and get.... correct but useless results [17:06:32] abarrera | donutboarding++ [17:06:43] jtgorman | atz: I'm not there ;) [17:06:44] fak3r | I liked how the search failed. [17:06:53] rsinger | Enhanced cholesterol techniques [17:06:54] LibraryThingT | I hate the idea that there's no serendipity without slicing books by call numbers. [17:06:55] fak3r | how little is it? [17:06:58] fak3r | mike! [17:07:01] mjg_ | mikeybe++ [17:07:02] anarchivist | mikeybe++ [17:07:03] gsf | mikeybe: the mike wahlberg of the library tech world [17:07:06] fak3r | he needs a foaf so we know his name [17:07:12] ---| ---> dcloutman [i=dcloutma@homer.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [17:07:14] liza31337 | Does only Paul Smith go there? [17:07:16] fak3r | sounds personal [17:07:22] mjg_ | liza31337++ [17:07:23] anarchivist | liza31337: he used to [17:07:24] mbklein | @known mikeybe [17:07:25] zoia | mbklein: I don't know mikeybe's URI [17:07:26] JodiS | Naomi Dushay's test catalog: http://searchworks-test.stanford.edu/vufind/ [17:07:28] fak3r | I never got in trouble in college* [17:07:34] atz | yeah, it's such a pathetic claim "no the *callnumber* provides serendipity and structure! pls don't take the callnumber!" [17:07:46] * akorphan would like to see Naomi's call number extraction/sort routine [17:07:48] mib_xxmepy6r | mostly foresty... in adaronicks [17:07:49] ---| <<-- jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5dcf67e825116e35] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:07:55] jtgorman | the issue I've had when doing things via call number here is often people are using it as an attempt to collocate...so either you're forced to try to chose one system to map the others too or you just have to display ordering broken up by different systems. but people are then confused/frustrated why they're in different systems [17:07:55] JodiS | atz: call numbers DO have something to do with serendipitous browsing in PRINT [17:07:57] mjg_ | BOOM, what up now, ContentDM? [17:07:59] jtgorman | :P [17:08:03] bess | akorphan: she's committing it to solrmarc, but it isn't there yet [17:08:04] fak3r | is it paulssmith, paul's smiths? the smiths? [17:08:07] MrDys | people love that page turning shit [17:08:15] liza31337 | Rarr page turning UIs [17:08:18] ---| ---> jstroop [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a97f8267e17ebc63] has joined #code4lib [17:08:19] anarchivist | @quote add < mjg_> BOOM, what up now, ContentDM? [17:08:20] fak3r | MrDys: I know, we're pushed to doing it at BHL [17:08:20] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1732 added. [17:08:22] steambadger | Paul Smith has his own college? [17:08:24] akorphan | bess: thanks [17:08:25] BillDueber | akorphan: I've got code I've been working on this morning, actually. Big messy regexp [17:08:28] fak3r | don't jump! [17:08:34] asl2 | I browse by call number online sometimes [17:08:35] ecorrado | call # sorting is easy if the call #'s are normlilzes [17:08:36] fak3r | gigapan, anyone? [17:08:36] LibraryThingT | But call numbers were hardly designed for serendipity! If that's what you want, you could design a better system. [17:08:37] abarrera | i do...microsoft an amazingly expensive piece of amazingly crappy software [17:08:43] mjg_ | BEAR! [17:08:49] anarchivist | what [17:08:52] LibraryThingT | Awesome. [17:08:54] mib_xxmepy6r | http://www.paulsmiths.edu/ [17:08:57] jtgorman | of course, some areas have their own call number variations...which are marked as being Dewey which leads to...oddities [17:08:57] fak3r | http://gigapan.org/index.php [17:08:57] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f5ef10901afac131] has joined #code4lib [17:08:58] gsf | downloading that image is why the internet has been slow [17:08:59] mpark | there's my contact lense [17:09:05] ---| <<-- cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f66ed86ced9451b0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:09:06] paulalbert | furverts! [17:09:10] * anarchivist can see for miles and miles [17:09:10] mbklein | mjg_: You know you've reached a sad place when you're talking smack to digital asset management software. [17:09:12] akorphan | BillDueber: The big challenge, besides bad cataloging, is the padding issue, I think. [17:09:12] JodiS | fak3r: http://www.paulsmiths.edu/ [17:09:17] mjg_ | I hope no one ever zooms in on my high school yearbook photo. [17:09:18] * ecorrado sorted lots o voyager call #'s in his life with no isue [17:09:22] fak3r | can I do that w/my cannon 1.3M cam? [17:09:24] atz | JodiS: yeah, but it's weird to latch onto callnumbers when there are so many other reasonable browse avenues available [17:09:27] rsinger | WHAT ARE THE OPENURLS FOR THIS, THOUGH? [17:09:30] LibraryThingT | What's that site that has the books like that—a big image you can zoom around on. [17:09:33] fak3r | JodiS: great [17:09:38] mjg_ | mbklein: that's how Paul Smith rolls [17:09:39] rsinger | FOR GOD'S SAKES WHAT WOULD THE HERBERT SAY?! [17:09:41] cbeer | deep zoom: silverlight based? [17:09:42] jtgorman | so our issues is a combination of historical legacy, how librarians have been trained/think about collocating, and how the users try to grapple with stuff [17:09:44] fak3r | micro++ [17:09:48] ecorrado | microfiche++ [17:09:49] anarchivist | microfiche++ [17:09:55] mbklein | cbeer: aye [17:09:56] BigD | seadragon = microfiche! [17:09:56] akorphan | I call it how I see it. [17:09:58] fak3r | cbeer: assume it's silverlight - they have a linux/firefox plugin btw [17:09:59] ecorrado | microsoftfiche [17:10:01] BillDueber | akorphan: Come find me and provide some feedback. I'm about 10 ft from rot [17:10:05] mbklein | akorphan++ [17:10:07] BillDueber | s/rot/royt/ [17:10:08] fak3r | I wasn't up late last night drinking or anything* [17:10:13] jtgorman | ecorrado: well, most of the issues isn't technical...or at least not when I've had issues [17:10:20] akorphan | Which one's royt? [17:10:23] dbs | cooliris is another visual browser thing [17:10:25] jrochkind100 | what tool is this he's showing us? [17:10:25] bess | fak3r: yes, it's silverlight. he was sitting next to me and I could see. [17:10:29] mbklein | @known royt [17:10:29] zoia | mbklein: I don't know royt's URI [17:10:33] mjg_ | mikeybe++ # Paul Smith's seven students are clamoring for this. [17:10:34] mbklein | @known jbrinley [17:10:34] zoia | mbklein: I don't know jbrinley's URI [17:10:35] fak3r | "how many to go boxes did you wnt?" [17:10:36] scolford | cooliris++ [17:10:37] anarchivist | photosynth++ [17:10:44] jrochkind100 | silverlight, is what he's showing us? [17:10:45] jtgorman | the winner is "Why are those call numbers at the top/bottom and marked call number type of unknown?" [17:10:47] fak3r | bigger! [17:10:52] LibraryThingT | If you zoom in, you get Obama at Notre Dame. [17:10:55] jtgorman | uh...well...that's what the catalog record says [17:10:58] BillDueber | akorphan: lemme try again. I'm two tables in front of the podium. I'm the really, really good looking one. [17:10:59] mbklein | jbrinley: @know yerself back in there, man. [17:11:00] * jtgorman shrugs [17:11:02] mjg_ | photosynth++ [17:11:02] MrDys | very very nice [17:11:03] LibraryThingT | NIce. [17:11:05] atz | sexy_interface++ [17:11:06] scolford | this is like book fetish porn [17:11:07] abarrera | ooooh ahhhh [17:11:14] fak3r | this is cool, but useful for... [17:11:15] abarrera | scolford++ [17:11:18] liza31337 | slave labor++ [17:11:20] atz | google "stacks view" [17:11:26] Kerwick | if you could take the books off the shelf and read them... [17:11:31] * jtgorman hopes this one makes it to the recording [17:11:32] gsf | i stand by my wahlberg comment [17:11:32] jrochkind100 | visualized browse IS useful. [17:11:34] mbklein | scolford: what's next? bibliofanfiction? [17:11:37] BillDueber | mikeybe++ that was awesome [17:11:37] fak3r | what's that bookstore that looks like that? [17:11:48] akorphan | billdueber: uhh... other distinguishing features? [17:11:54] fak3r | what if someone checks out a book? they have to refoto the whole library? damn! [17:11:58] scolford | mbklein: serials slash [17:11:58] mjg_ | mikeybe++ # nice one. [17:12:10] abarrera | mikeybe++ [17:12:15] fak3r | "Welcome to the internet my friend, how can I help you?" [17:12:19] mbklein | scolford++ [17:12:22] anarchivist | put that in your bag and smoke it [17:12:27] fak3r | simple css, I approve [17:12:29] BillDueber | akorphan: I'm going to stand up in 5 [17:12:30] BillDueber | 4 [17:12:31] BillDueber | 3 [17:12:32] BillDueber | 2 [17:12:33] BillDueber | 1 [17:12:37] akorphan | gotchan [17:12:38] erikhatcher | mikeybe++ [17:12:38] fak3r | dchud ftw [17:12:39] gsf | fak3r: you would obviously need a multiple-webcam feed [17:12:42] jbrinley | fak3r: just retake a picture everytime you reshelve a book [17:12:44] scolford | why do i only get karma for porn comments? [17:12:47] mbklein | He said it was gonna happen, and it happened! How about that?! [17:12:51] jbrinley | fak3r: it should stay relatively up-to-date [17:12:51] anarchivist | ugh [17:12:52] fak3r | gsf: it could work [17:12:56] mjg_ | I have heard numerous corks pop in the hall. [17:12:56] mbklein | @karma scolford [17:12:57] zoia | mbklein: Karma for "scolford" has been increased 14 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 12. [17:12:59] akorphan | I'll wade that way when the lightning subsides. [17:13:01] anarchivist | omeka_svn_emails_on_every_commit-- [17:13:03] MrDys | BillDueber: nice hair brush to make it natural [17:13:04] LibraryThingT | Instead of camera's pointed at books, why not have cameras pointing out from books? [17:13:05] mib_xxmepy6r | could be used to hoto a rare book collection that never changes (or changes very litle) [17:13:07] decasm | tagit & bagit (you know, for dead digital objects) [17:13:14] rsinger | wonderful... [17:13:20] fak3r | "It's dead jim" [17:13:21] LibraryThingT | scolford++ [17:13:24] lbjay | mjg_: srsly? [17:13:26] rsinger | no, mets is not wonderful [17:13:29] BillDueber | MrDys: yeah, it's only a matter of time before I'm discovered by a high-powered hollywood agent. [17:13:35] harmless | Even only enough zoom to recognise the shelf and even updated only every month or two it would be waaaay useful for finding something in a university library i haven't seen before, especially a large one. [17:13:37] mjg_ | lbjay: yes, it's almost beer and wine hour, methinks. [17:13:48] anarchivist | when i wrap objects with mets, i get a tingling sensation [17:13:49] MrDys | this is amazingly on schedule [17:13:49] lbjay | methinking++ [17:13:50] scolford | where are the wine and beer? [17:13:53] mjg_ | cork # 4 [17:13:53] MrDys | when did we get so punctual [17:14:00] mjg_ | scolford: hallway. [17:14:09] lbjay | DimeBagIt [17:14:10] epoz | fak3r: zoomii.com [17:14:13] scolford | yay. not far to walk. [17:14:14] LibraryThingT | Right. [17:14:14] mjg_ | lbjay++ [17:14:14] anarchivist | lbjay++ [17:14:16] anarchivist | weed++ [17:14:16] abarrera | lbjay++ [17:14:16] fak3r | "It's pronounced thermometer" [17:14:19] BigD | abarrera's already out there, drunk [17:14:20] ---| <<-- mib_jqmykb28 [i=80d27e86@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bef53b0194ec8a2a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:14:20] BillDueber | Everything before wine & beer ends on time. It's a law of nature. [17:14:22] fak3r | epoz: that's it! ya [17:14:24] scolford | lbjay++ [17:14:25] anarchivist | acid++ [17:14:30] lbjay | scolford: i only get karma for drug comments [17:14:30] mbklein | scolford: Imagine what Don would do with online, browseable, zoomable photos of our stacks... [17:14:37] fak3r | beer++ [17:14:48] anarchivist | lbjay: just like robcaSSon [17:14:49] BillDueber | How do you get far enough away from the stacks to get decent pictures, though? [17:14:51] mbklein | lbjay++ # drug comments. heh. [17:14:55] JodiS | I so desperately want this browseable library. mike_beccaria++ [17:15:12] * jtgorman really wants to see this now [17:15:13] kgs | BeerXML++ # http://www.beerxml.com/ [17:15:17] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f5ef10901afac131] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:15:21] rsinger | JodiS: YOU run the windows server [17:15:22] fak3r | make that virtual library to work with the Wii and let e know [17:15:25] anarchivist | chesthairML++ [17:15:32] fak3r | windows_server-- [17:15:33] Kerwick | BillDueber: Wide angle lens and merge the photos [17:15:34] JodiS | rsinger: huh? [17:15:36] mbklein | Is BeerXML designed to be further eXtensible? Or should it be called BeerML? [17:15:37] anarchivist | "Download Complete BeerXML Version 1.0 in Microsoft Word Format" [17:15:38] fak3r | got uptime? [17:15:38] JodiS | rsinger: oh. [17:15:43] LibraryThingT | I just want a lot of spine images. [17:15:53] JodiS | rsinger: there's opensource fisheye stuff, too [17:15:54] fak3r | sourceforge: worst user ui, evar! [17:15:57] mbklein | anarchivist++ LOL [17:16:00] atz | when those browse pix get enough resolution, put the barcodes on the spine.... and you can line process the image... *boom* there's your inventory! [17:16:07] scolford | mbklein: oh that would be more like lemonparty.org [17:16:14] fak3r | scolford: -- ;) [17:16:15] jtgorman | JodiS: mikeybe = mike beccarria [17:16:17] jtgorman | I think... [17:16:20] anarchivist | scolford-- [17:16:21] rsinger | JodiS: and your coworker showed something in some shade of yellow [17:16:25] BillDueber | atz: Except for the 150K or so books that are checked out at any given moment :-) [17:16:26] JodiS | mikeybe++ [17:16:33] wickr | atz: and if you have the dimesions, you can scale appropriately ;) [17:16:33] ---| <<-- mib_eme7me5h [i=46a41956@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f77395c451c00490] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:16:35] fak3r | dchud, royt, etc [17:16:36] rsinger | guess that's a little different, though [17:16:36] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ee394d19f4ec94df] has joined #code4lib [17:16:37] mjg_ | royt is between us and alcohol. this is dangerous. [17:16:42] BillDueber | Woo hoo! I wants me some free books!!!! [17:16:44] fak3r | define 'cool' prizes [17:16:44] mbklein | scolford: Another day, another NO changes to the BPL DNS records. [17:16:50] jtgorman | mjg_: lay down and cover your stomach and face [17:16:51] MrDys | schwag++ # the free book kind [17:16:54] JodiS | rsinger: generally glad to be tarred with the ksclarke brush :) [17:16:57] Kerwick | fak3r: icecubes [17:16:58] LibraryThingT | Programming Collective Intelligence isn't very good. [17:17:00] atz | BillDueber: you already know the inventory status of a checked out book. [17:17:00] fak3r | usb drive has government secrets on it [17:17:00] mbklein | Who's got the crickets? [17:17:03] atz | it's checked out. [17:17:04] MrDys | schwag-- # the...other...kind [17:17:05] fak3r | get a room you two! [17:17:09] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: you didn't like it? [17:17:13] anarchivist | the chilloutroom? [17:17:15] LibraryThingT | No. Meh. [17:17:22] fak3r | whatever? interesting! [17:17:22] ecorrado | bagit++ [17:17:23] abarrera | whatever room = drug hangout [17:17:29] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: I thought it was pretty decent. Were I teaching an undergrad course I'd probably use it [17:17:30] LibraryThingT | If we had stack photos, would we catch students having sex in the stacks, like Google Street Maps? [17:17:30] BillDueber | atz: Google scanning project is the best thing that ever happened to our shelving. We've found thousands of previosly-lost books [17:17:30] mbklein | "Good evening, and welcome to Hangin' Out With Roy..." [17:17:31] akorphan | The Handel Room will need more comfortable chairs in that case. [17:17:32] * MrDys tosses anarchivist a bottle of watter and a pacifier [17:17:35] mjg_ | when are we announcing the scholarship winners? [17:17:37] paulalbert | Are there any restrictions on what I can do in the whatever room? [17:17:39] lbjay | YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE HANDEL ROOM [17:17:39] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Video of Rob Styles' code4lib lightning presentation | Talis Developer Network || del.icio.us: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data | One Big Library. || Panlibus (Talis): A look through the Grid at Code4lib rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [17:20:11] fak3r | python can't do random numbers...bug! [17:20:14] anarchivist | pyrrhea [17:20:17] rsinger | edsu: i would love that [17:20:22] fak3r | cats? err...no [17:20:24] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b66211e7b20eb240] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:20:28] * jtgorman hasn't found anything better [17:20:30] mbklein | edsu: Can it call native python libraries? [17:20:54] fak3r | "You're not a name / You're a number!" 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[19:15:12] ---| ---> mib_ef5x5w [i=46b7a75f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2a20bee8a6e9368d] has joined #code4lib [19:15:44] ---| <<-- mib_ef5x5w [i=46b7a75f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2a20bee8a6e9368d] has quit (Client Quit) [19:18:05] jbrinley | @quote random [19:18:05] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #533: "< rsinger> @ana a man a plan a canal panama" (added by gsf at 04:10 PM, November 20, 2006) [19:18:23] jbrinley | @ana a man a plan a canal panama [19:18:24] zoia | jbrinley: An anal canal, am a man papa [19:28:36] jbrinley | @quote random [19:28:37] zoia | jbrinley: Quote #913: " I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." 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[20:58:07] cbeer | safari4-- # why are tabs on top of the window a good idea? [20:58:35] ---| ---> kvnglbrtsn [n=kvnglbrt@wsip-70-164-25-65.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [20:59:26] ---| <--- kvnglbrtsn [n=kvnglbrt@wsip-70-164-25-65.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [20:59:54] cbeer | safari4++ # ooh, shiny + standards compliant [21:00:50] ---| User: *** highermath_away is now known as highermath [21:07:21] ---| ---> ethomsen [n=chatzill@c-24-34-159-250.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [21:12:24] ---| ---> phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m6c5e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [21:14:03] ---| <<-- papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [21:14:21] ---| ---> papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #code4lib [21:16:08] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [21:16:27] pmurray | @reload Assorted [21:16:29] zoia | pmurray: The operation succeeded. [21:16:35] pmurray | @excuse [21:16:36] zoia | pmurray: Daylight Savings Time [21:18:05] jeff | no such thing, zoia. ;) [21:18:28] pmurray | @reload Assorted [21:18:29] zoia | pmurray: The operation succeeded. [21:18:31] ---| ---> royt [n=tennantr@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:18:33] pmurray | @excuse [21:18:34] zoia | pmurray: The excuse for today is: Daylight Savings Time [21:18:58] pmurray | jeff: What -- are you from eastern Indiana or Arizona or someplace like that? [21:19:49] pmurray | @reload Assorted [21:19:50] zoia | pmurray: The operation succeeded. [21:19:53] pmurray | @excuse [21:19:54] zoia | pmurray: My excuse for today is "Daylight Savings Time" [21:21:24] jeff | pmurray: no, just wearing my pedant hat tonight. it's "Saving", not "Savings" :) [21:21:58] pmurray | jeff: Really? I didn't know that. (Neither did the author of the excuse page, obviously.) [21:22:30] pmurray | @rate Daylight Saving Time versus Daylight Savings Time [21:22:40] zoia | pmurray: Daylight: 5.3; Saving: 9.8; Time: 7.3; versus: 9.8; Daylight: 5.3; Savings: 4.9; Time: 7.3. Savings sucks! Saving rocks! [21:22:42] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has quit () [21:22:46] pmurray | @rate [21:22:47] zoia | pmurray: (rate ...) -- Rates terms according to the criteria at http://www.sucks-rocks.com/ [21:23:02] pmurray | @rate daylight_saving_time daylight_savings_time [21:23:06] zoia | pmurray: daylight saving time: 0.9; daylight savings time: 0.9. daylight savings time sucks! [21:23:14] jbrinley | @known pmurray [21:23:15] zoia | jbrinley: pmurray's URI is [21:23:44] pmurray | @battle [21:23:44] zoia | pmurray: POWERED BY WINDOWS VISTA [21:41:46] ---| User: *** ejk_out is now known as ejk [21:43:02] ---| ---> zelda [n=Auraria_@wsip-70-164-25-118.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [21:47:39] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: code4lib | coders for libraries, libraries for coders [21:47:59] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9533105313d51acf] has joined #code4lib [21:48:41] ---| <<-- eby_ [n=ebyr@c-71-206-107-74.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit () [21:52:23] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b9dbe66be31c6e28] has joined #code4lib [21:54:11] ejk | @rate pyrhon python [21:54:14] zoia | ejk: pyrhon: 10.0; python: 8.5. pyrhon rocks! 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[22:31:53] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a2650b2776efd92c] has joined #code4lib [22:31:58] ejk | nope, just careless. [22:32:33] ejk | I assume you ran into the basketball fans, though [22:32:53] ejk | Providence beat the #1 team [22:32:54] robcaSSon | yeah....we were a bit confused at first. [22:32:58] robcaSSon | wow. [22:34:18] ---| ---> gugek [n=gugek@cpe-069-134-127-248.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [22:34:24] wickr | the University of Providence ;) [22:35:05] dchud | sure is quiet down here in the handel room [22:35:51] ---| ---> gugek_ [n=gugek@adsl-227-96-66.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #code4lib [22:36:08] ---| ---> tomkeays [n=tomkeays@wsip-70-164-25-96.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:36:15] ejk | providencebasketball++ [22:36:34] tomkeays | @know [22:36:35] zoia | tomkeays: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. 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[22:40:17] ---| <<-- mib_d2hd6z3x [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8e6f71d99a325f6f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [22:41:20] ---| <<-- was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [22:42:41] robcaSSon | @know robcaSSon http://foam.lib.muohio.edu/foaf.rdf#me [22:42:43] zoia | robcaSSon: robcaSSon's URI is now [22:44:10] robcaSSon | i need to look more closely at the foaf stuff, as mine is currently a cut-n-paste job [22:47:53] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Leggott, Mark: How Silly Can We Get? || Leggott, Mark: Latest Evergreen Release Available || Leggott, Mark: Conors Comics 10 || Leggott, Mark: Conor Comics 9 MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:56:59] ---| ---> mib_iwbfj1a2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b5263cd0c0dc713] has joined #code4lib [22:57:05] pmurray | dchud: There is something seriously wrong with the phrase "hot MARC parsing action" [22:57:07] dbs | ksclarke: hurm... high-quality cloth diapers, sure. [22:57:22] mib_iwbfj1a2 | cloth_diapers-- [22:57:24] _ksclarke | @ana hot marc parsing action [22:57:25] zoia | _ksclarke: Graphics contaminator [22:57:29] ---| User: *** mib_iwbfj1a2 is now known as fak3r [22:58:26] robcaSSon | pmurray++ [22:58:53] robcaSSon | @knows robcaSSon pmurray [22:58:55] zoia | robcaSSon: robcaSSon does not know pmurray, but pmurray knows robcaSSon. [22:59:11] pmurray | robcaSSon: Hey -- get on that already, okay? [22:59:23] robcaSSon | pmurray: heh...i'm on the case [22:59:37] robcaSSon | if i add a do i need zoia to reload my foaf? [22:59:53] pmurray | @foaf [22:59:54] zoia | pmurray: (foaf ) -- Returns the objects of the given predicate in the given nick's FOAF. [23:00:00] pmurray | @list foaf [23:00:00] zoia | pmurray: common, foaf, forget, know, known, knows, and predicates [23:00:11] wickr | good question, not sure if it caches the file or pulls it each time [23:00:18] robcaSSon | @know robcaSSon http://foam.lib.muohio.edu/foaf.rdf#me [23:00:19] zoia | robcaSSon: robcaSSon's URI is now [23:00:23] robcaSSon | @knows robcaSSon pmurray [23:00:25] zoia | robcaSSon: robcaSSon does not know pmurray, but pmurray knows robcaSSon. [23:01:47] * robcaSSon is gonna call it a night. [23:01:52] dchud | pmurray: i don't know what you're talking about. i came here to do exactly that. [23:01:53] robcaSSon | peace. [23:02:02] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b9dbe66be31c6e28] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [23:02:31] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:02:33] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [23:03:00] pmurray | dchud: Perhaps, but from afar -- not in the thick of things -- hot MARC parsing action makes my skin crawl. [23:03:10] pmurray | G'night all. [23:03:18] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [23:04:05] ---| <<-- ethomsen [n=chatzill@c-24-34-159-250.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [23:05:27] wickr | @later tell robcaSSon I think you need #me on the end of your for pmurray [23:05:28] zoia | wickr: The operation succeeded. [23:05:35] lbjay | my understanding is that zoia hits the specified profiles each time [23:06:34] wickr | lbjay: ok, so it knows the address, it doesn't really know the file [23:06:43] gsf | lbjay: did you hear about the action in the handel room? [23:06:49] ---| User: *** highermath is now known as highermath_away [23:07:29] dchud | we hear footsteps [23:07:31] dchud | uh-oh [23:07:44] gsf | not a joiner [23:07:47] dchud | phew! close call. [23:09:55] ---| ---> mjg_ [n=mjgiarlo@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:10:04] mjg_ | word up. [23:10:23] fak3r | mjg_: there you are [23:10:40] ---| ---> saschel [n=saschel@94-224-98-240.access.telenet.be] has joined #code4lib [23:11:24] ---| <<-- saschel [n=saschel@94-224-98-240.access.telenet.be] has quit (Client Quit) [23:11:28] mjg_ | fak3r: :) Needed to lie down, but that doesn't prevent me from IRCing ;) [23:11:43] mjg_ | sat on stools too much today. kills my back. [23:13:23] lbjay | @knows lbjay robcaSSon [23:13:25] zoia | lbjay: lbjay and robcaSSon know each other. [23:13:47] lbjay | broaf++ [23:15:02] mjg_ | Um [23:15:11] mjg_ | So, why would anyone admit to knowing robcaSSon? [23:15:18] fak3r | mjg_: understood, thanks for letting me join up tonight, met more kewl folks; appreciate it! [23:15:45] mjg_ | fak3r: thanks for joining us, man. I kinda thought you and Matty would hit it off. He's a good friend of mine. [23:16:38] lbjay | mjg_: gotta maintain my connection [23:17:52] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit () [23:18:00] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Coombs, Karen: WorldCat Search API App Demo || Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data || Leggott, Mark: How Silly Can We Get? || Leggott, [23:18:11] fak3r | mjg_: talking about bands is good for me, need to do it more [23:18:30] gsf | broaf++ [23:18:34] fak3r | I've said it before, and I'll say it again: mark leggott++ [23:18:37] dchud | heh [23:18:42] dchud | mark_leggott++ [23:18:54] dchud | he's the #2 reason to go to access this year... you know it'll be good [23:19:26] _ksclarke | is #1 because it's in PEI? [23:20:05] fak3r | PEI is beautiful, I'm a big fan, but he's running a sharp shop up there. [23:20:06] mjg_ | #1 reason not to go is because I may be there. [23:20:52] dchud | #1 is that it's Access, and it's in PEI :) [23:20:59] * lbjay now offically wants a kindle [23:21:23] dchud | for a second i thought he was going to lock us in. [23:21:28] mjg_ | anyone see Obama's address tonight? [23:21:30] lbjay | when is access? [23:21:40] mjg_ | I'm watching coverage on MSNBC but, meh. [23:21:48] mjg_ | lbjay: usually October. [23:21:52] mjg_ | mid-October? [23:22:26] fak3r | me in cool waters (at night) on the north side of PEI: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fak3r/2821348695/in/set-72157607905125892/ [23:22:34] lbjay | mmm, i can almost taste the mussels [23:22:37] dchud | it starts right around the start of sukkot [23:22:48] dchud | http://vre.upei.ca/access2009/ [23:22:50] lbjay | @whatis sukkot [23:22:53] fak3r | lbjay: mussels, lobster, canadian beer [23:22:57] rsinger | dchud: are you still 'whatever-ing'? [23:23:00] zoia | lbjay: caption: Exterior views of sukkahs in Jerusalem, Israel; imgsize: 300; observances: Eating in '' sukkah'', taking the Four Species, ''hakafot'' in Synagogue.; date2010: sunset, to sunset, / 30; begins: 15th day of Tishrei; holidayName: Sukkot; label: Sukkot; forProperty: Feast of Tabernacles (Christian holiday); forProperty: Sukkah (Talmud); forProperty: the tractate of the Talmud; (3 more messages) [23:24:01] dchud | rsinger: if by "whatever-ing" you mean "adding minimal json support to pymarc in the handel room where THE JOINT IS ROCKIN'" then, why, yes, i am [23:24:18] mjg_ | I thought Handel closed at 11pm. [23:24:22] rsinger | dchud: define 'joint is rockin'" [23:24:30] rsinger | dchud: with don dokken? [23:24:34] dchud | guy just came by to lock the door but said we were okay to stay here [23:24:35] rsinger | and what mjg_ said [23:24:45] rsinger | dchud: who is we? [23:25:17] dchud | gsf, me, and everybody else [23:25:29] lbjay | is there beer? [23:25:30] mjg_ | is iand still around? I meant to corner him and ask about linked data + genealogy. [23:25:54] dchud | lbjay: i'm not going to say no. [23:25:57] mjg_ | fak3r: I see you have feet. 's good to have them. [23:26:02] rsinger | i'm there [23:26:04] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [23:26:13] * lbjay 2nd guesses his early retirement [23:26:23] dchud | WOOH 50% GROWTH RATE [23:26:24] * mjg_ gave up on beer and socializing in meatspace. stupid sore back. [23:26:32] dchud | WOOH SUSTAINED GROWTH [23:26:41] gsf | mjg_: i hear you. rest up [23:26:42] wickr | lbjay: you want a Kindle 1 or 2? [23:26:58] lbjay | wickr: the one that will read to me in the car [23:27:05] dchud | mjg_: i would offer you ibuprofen but all i have is aspirin [23:27:06] fak3r predict - lbjay slow on the IRC speed slam manana [23:27:34] lbjay | mjg_: i've got some advils [23:27:43] fak3r | mjg_: I can offer a beer - Newcastle is all I have. won't stop the pain, just make you forget it (for the night) [23:27:44] wickr | lbjay: uh, is that v.2? I only asked because a woman sitting at my table today was selling v.1 [23:27:56] lbjay | wickr: an nicole hennig? [23:28:00] iand | mjg_: I'm around... grab me tomorrow [23:28:03] mjg_ | thanks, dudes. I think I have some too, but this is a "need to lie down and sleep and all will be better in the morn" kinda thang. [23:28:03] lbjay | s/an/ahh/ [23:28:04] wickr | lbjay: yeah [23:28:13] gsf | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2008/07/symbian-open-source-strategy-explained-at-oscon.ars [23:28:15] _ksclarke | @quote random [23:28:15] zoia | _ksclarke: Quote #1089: " jrochkind is now a tattoo-artist who said Guns don't kill people; magic kills people." (added by jbrinley at 01:10 PM, December 06, 2007) [23:28:17] mjg_ | iand++ # cool, thanks. I am a rank amateur but edsu said I might pick your brain. [23:28:24] * mjg_ is also generally rank. [23:28:25] fak3r | symbian-- [23:28:28] fak3r | android++ [23:28:36] fak3r | mjg_: good to know [23:28:38] wickr | android++ [23:28:44] mjg_ | thanks all for offers of beer and meds. [23:28:48] iand | mjg_: :) [23:28:52] dchud | i'm very curious to know what iand thought of my rant yesterday [23:28:54] wickr | two things that go great together [23:29:00] ---| <--- _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7fa7b7c4046c0c25] has left #code4lib () [23:29:05] fak3r | android - I want to be able to update my phone, and have it crash on reboot [23:29:11] iand | dchud: there was nothing to disagree with! [23:29:20] gsf | is android really a superior os? [23:29:24] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:29:30] mjg_ | dchud: I think I recommended to two people today that they seek you out and run ideas past you so as to be subject to the Chudnovian razor. Just FYI. [23:29:53] fak3r | gsf: no, but it's Linux, so it can be, and it's something you can learn/extend and as I always love, break [23:30:01] gsf | dchud and rsinger are exchanging electrons down here [23:30:21] fak3r | Electrons IPA? [23:30:33] iand | dchud: I'll be talking about decentralisation of data on Thursday (but not the engineering of... the principle) [23:30:33] * lbjay is headed down [23:30:43] gsf | fak3r: true and agreed. symbian could be more like that once it's open, which is good [23:31:07] fak3r | iand: I'd like to talk to you about that - decentralisation of data [23:31:14] * lbjay is in the elevator [23:31:19] dchud | iand: cool, i'll be looking forward to that [23:31:38] iand | as far as I'm concerned we need to mirror and repeat as much as possible [23:31:58] iand | single copies == single point of failure [23:32:10] dchud | mjg_: well alright then [23:32:21] dchud | iand: great! i'd like to plan a little experiment [23:32:26] fak3r | we have to count on computers/hardware failing, so we can plan ahead how to deal with it [23:32:39] dchud | is there space on the docket for a conversation over a breakout tomorrow? [23:33:04] iand | fak3r: I'm still awake so ask away unless you'd rather do it f2f [23:33:19] dchud | iand: oh i just saw your line about not disagreeing... DAMN i was really trying to raise your ire. i guess i failed like anarchivist. [23:33:33] iand | dchud: LOL [23:33:50] fak3r | iand: I'm all about it, have done testing on distributed file systems (gluster, hdfs, luster (sun)) and the feature of having full copies spread amongst multiple providers is the way to go [23:34:02] ---| ---> ksclarke [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-25.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:34:13] mjg_ | dchud: UCSD dudes were interested in BagIt, btw. Way to go. I told them they could look up Leslie for more info. [23:34:38] dchud | mjg_: awesome! cicer0 from yale also told me they were planning to use it :) [23:34:45] fak3r | iand: also, I've been itching to get some sort of Bittorrent feature rolling - have trackerless clients, have new torrents being dist via RSS, clients pick up the new RSS and start distributing... [23:34:48] mjg_ | edsu: got a few folks who commented positively on both lcsh.info and yer foaf app. thought you'd wanna know. [23:34:57] mjg_ | sweet! [23:35:05] iand | dchud: you'd only raise my ire if you were saying we need to control the dissemination of data [23:35:49] iand | fak3r: isn't the best way to distribute data to make it available and useful to people so they take copies? [23:37:02] ---| <<-- ksclarke [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-25.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [23:37:07] mjg_ | reminds me of the "movage" concept edsu was talking about a few months ago on the digital-curation list. [23:37:37] fak3r | iand: absolutely - be it Libraries, other museums or 'joe' the webmaster - who cares as long as the md5sums match, anyone can participate and help the network be more robust. bittorrent the great equalizer [23:38:16] iand | freenet had this concept whereby the number of copies of each file was related to the number of requests [23:38:20] fak3r | I don't think an autonomous bittorrent solution has been seriously considered, I'd like to try ti [23:38:39] iand | although they allowed files to die if no-one loved them [23:39:05] fak3r | yeah, talked to the freenet ppl (based in Austin) but their stuff was all encrypted. not bad, but we don't want to hide anything. didn't know about the files 'dying' - no likely that [23:39:24] iand | I think it was mainly because of finite capacity of freenet nodes [23:39:36] fak3r | but that kind of protocol would work - but again, everyone bittorrents (mostly) [23:41:16] iand | dchud: I think there is a bit of blinkered thinking going on in the linked data world, because of the emphasis on retrieving data from a URI. it's getting turned into "the only relevant data is at that URI" which isn't true - it's just one source of many [23:41:20] fak3r | iand: but I'm up for doing a proof of concept of either/both [23:42:00] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [23:42:08] fak3r | iand: right, like if a node goes dark for a bit, we don't want that data to get dropped, it's valid until a new iteration comes along [23:42:20] fak3r | jay_leno_jokes-- [23:42:45] iand | automated bitttorrent sounds cool... so every participating node would continually exchange data with others [23:43:26] fak3r | right, again, they'd automate RSS feeds, clients would auto pick those up and start dnld/seeding. [23:43:31] ---| ---> kgs_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:44:24] iand | if it used atom then wouldn't there be a natural fit with jangle? [23:44:36] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:44:55] JodiS | how do I get n3 from LIBRIS? [23:44:56] fak3r | not a perfect plan, but the steps I desc are functions of apps out there...so it'd be a matter of get thing it rolling and have others join to keep it going/make it more robust [23:45:28] jeff | there was a semi-automated bittorrent project for public access tv / community media centers, went by the nae "digital bicycle". domain seems to be defunct now. [23:45:44] fak3r | iand: I think jangle could/should be a natural fit, I don't know enough of jangle to really say though (I can hum a bit of it, but that's it) [23:45:55] mjg_ | JodiS: you can use curl and provide "--header 'Accept: text/rdf+n3'" or install a ffx extension that allows you to add that header. [23:46:15] ---| <--- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [23:46:21] mjg_ | or perhaps libris will let you request a resource w/ the .n3 extension and it'll do the smart thing? [23:46:27] iand | just imagine jangle as a bunch of atom feeds in front of useful sources of library data (plus a protocol to update them) [23:46:38] fak3r | there was another thing in Austin, Cobra or somthing, but very limited. then there's a more spec library project based on dist via bittorrent, but hasn't been updated in years. [23:46:57] fak3r | iand: that sounds good, if I can 'curl' it, we can make it werk [23:47:20] JodiS | mjg++ [23:47:40] JodiS | mjg: no, .n3 not understood [23:47:41] iand | curl++ [23:48:08] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Code4Lib 2009 - a set on Flickr || Chudnov, Dan: code4lib 2009 talk on caching and proxying linked data [23:48:39] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [23:48:44] jbrinley | goodnight, all [23:48:47] ---| <<-- jbrinley [n=adelie@havok.dreamhost.com] has quit ("Leaving") [23:49:34] dchud @quote add "lbjay: i am not the architect you're looking for" [23:49:35] zoia | dchud: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [23:50:10] mjg_ | rachel_maddow+- # kind of amusing, but is basically Keith Olbermann sans testosterone. [23:50:12] dchud @quote add "lbjay: i am not the architect you're looking for" [23:50:12] zoia | dchud: The operation succeeded. Quote #1733 added. [23:51:07] anarchivist_r | @quote random [23:51:07] ---| <<-- tomkeays [n=tomkeays@wsip-70-164-25-96.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [23:51:08] zoia | anarchivist_room: Quote #1005: " Some say the world will end in fire; some say in segfaults." (added by robcaSSon at 01:18 PM, September 06, 2007) [23:51:09] ---| User: *** anarchivist_room is now known as anarchivist [23:51:41] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:51:54] ---| ---> tomkeays [n=tomkeays@wsip-70-164-25-96.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:52:24] anarchivist | is there a hospitality suite? [23:52:33] mjg_ | anarchivist: Handel room, Temple level [23:52:38] anarchivist | mjg_: still open? [23:52:48] wtd | Closed at 11, according to what they said. [23:52:51] mjg_ | anarchivist: yes, but there are some unsavory characters in there. [23:52:54] fak3r | mjg_: rachel smiles much more [23:53:01] * anarchivist just came from temple [23:53:03] mjg_ | fak3r: true! [23:53:05] anarchivist | r people h4ck1ng? [23:53:21] fak3r | hak`1ingf2tw@! [23:53:29] mjg_ | something about json support in pymarc. [23:53:30] miker_ | it was never open :( [23:53:50] wtd | miker: same as last night, then! :( [23:53:52] * dbs buys miker_ a consolatory beer [23:54:03] mjg_ | I have bacon in my room. Who needs a hospitality suite? [23:54:23] anarchivist | ahhh [23:54:24] fak3r | *crickets* [23:54:24] dchud | mjg_: we have rsinger in our hospitality suite. who needs bacon? [23:54:27] anarchivist | so good t have the boots off [23:54:38] mjg_ | @rate bacon rsinger [23:54:41] zoia | mjg_: bacon: 9.9; rsinger: 10.0. rsinger rocks! [23:54:42] ---| <<-- tomkeays [n=tomkeays@wsip-70-164-25-96.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [23:54:45] mjg_ | :O [23:54:51] * wtd laughs at dbs's latest tweet. "Are you sure you know what you're talking about?" [23:54:56] miker_ | unacceptable! [23:54:59] kgs_ | just enjoying my chocolate truffles and face spritz [23:55:09] dchud | rsinger is doing a dance of joy at his victory [23:55:32] mjg_ | rsinger is cool and all but I don't want him anywhere near my cheezburger. [23:55:33] anarchivist | kgs_-- [23:55:42] anarchivist | kgs_: i have no face mist [23:55:43] kgs_ | :-) [23:55:55] kgs_ | ahhh. and the turndown is so nice too [23:55:57] anarchivist | kgs_: just me, my intimacy kit, and season 1 of "heroes" [23:56:05] fak3r | Ikan haz ur data via OWL_OIA? [23:56:07] dbs | wtd: I tweet once a week, slowly increasing my jerk factor each week. [23:56:42] kgs_ | dbs who are you on twitter? [23:56:52] dbs | kgs_: denials [23:57:09] dbs | this kind of tweet raises my ire, though: "we looked @ vufind & decided to co in another direction. our ils is evergreen, which @ this time limits us" [23:57:21] fak3r | I am now following denials [23:57:25] kgs_ | hmmmm [23:57:47] fak3r | dbs: s/co/go/g ? [23:57:50] kgs_ | I track evergreen tweets but have been web-challenged here [23:57:55] mjg_ | Evergreen sucks. I hear they don't even do acquisitions. No EDI support? Come ON! [23:58:03] * mjg_ -- [23:58:04] anarchivist | mjg_-- [23:58:05] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:58:11] anarchivist | speaking of -- [23:58:24] * anarchivist wants paczki :( [23:58:26] fak3r | ouch, BigD, discuss! [23:58:28] mjg_ | BigD: you are unwanted. [23:58:31] anarchivist | mmm lard donuts [23:58:38] kgs_ | oh right... it's like almost Lent [23:58:39] dbs | mjgiarlo++ # fair enough :) [23:58:41] wtd | dbs: By the way, I am countering America by listening to Rush. [23:58:47] dbs | wtd++ [23:58:54] dchud | @canuck i want to try out couchdb from the apache foundation [23:58:54] zoia | dchud: i want to try oat coachdb from the apawchee foundation, eh? [23:59:05] fak3r | wtf++ [23:59:08] anarchivist | wtd++ [23:59:11] mjg_ | dbs++ # yeah, I suck. [23:59:16] fak3r | couchdb, or as I called it in chan today, sofadb [23:59:26] anarchivist | mjg_ is sofa king [23:59:32] * fak3r nver makss mistakes [23:59:32] wtd | dchud, we were talking about your and Library Geeks at dinner. Any chance of more? We miss them. [23:59:32] * mjg_ is wee todd ed [23:59:42] fak3r | anarchivist: I am sofa king, we, todd, ed. --- Day changed Wed Feb 25 2009 [00:00:15] fak3r | aquaTeenHungerForceJokes++ [00:00:37] mjg_ | ATHF++ [00:01:05] anarchivist | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/funny-pictures-your-cat-should-be-doused-in-holy-water.jpg [00:01:06] fak3r | drewBarrymore-- [00:01:11] mjg_ | I can safely say that in a world without Meatwad, I might never have met my wife. [00:01:35] fak3r | mjg_: that's a comment to get behind [00:01:42] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a3a3dfb489be9711] has joined #code4lib [00:02:31] mjg_ | Speaking of, I forgot to call her tonight. Whoops. [00:02:35] mjg_ | brrrrring brrrrring [00:02:50] mbklein | tsk [00:03:05] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [00:03:54] mbklein | @known [00:03:56] zoia mbklein: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [00:04:23] mbklein | Awesome [00:04:24] MrDys | yes, zoia, yes you do [00:04:58] wtd | @knows wtd zoia [00:05:01] zoia | wtd: wtd does not know zoia, but zoia knows wtd. [00:05:13] MrDys | mbklein: http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/images/mk2_fatality.png [00:05:14] MrDys | tomorrow. [00:05:32] mbklein | oh HELL no [00:05:35] mbklein | :) [00:05:45] mbklein | I'll only accept a Babality [00:05:49] anarchivist | MrDys++ [00:05:53] anarchivist | mbklein++ [00:06:36] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e204bb72d8f473c] has joined #code4lib [00:06:37] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e204bb72d8f473c] has quit (Client Quit) [00:07:12] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c227dec3e65fcc0a] has joined #code4lib [00:07:52] lbjay | @dunno add why don't you just use the python library? [00:07:54] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #302 added. [00:08:18] lbjay | @known lbjay [00:08:20] zoia | lbjay: lbjay's URI is [00:08:29] MrDys | @band [00:08:30] lbjay | @list FOAF [00:08:30] zoia | MrDys: Plus-Six Battle-Axe [00:08:32] zoia | lbjay: common, foaf, forget, know, known, knows, and predicates [00:08:39] lbjay | @knows lbjay [00:08:40] zoia | lbjay: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [00:08:43] lbjay | @knows lbjay zoia [00:08:46] zoia | lbjay: lbjay does not know zoia, but zoia knows lbjay. [00:08:54] lbjay | ^ not true [00:09:29] mjg_ | @help predicates [00:09:31] zoia | mjg_: (predicates ) -- Displays the relationships that have been asserted by the given nick about the other nick or URI. [00:10:10] mbklein @foaf lbjay knows [00:10:11] zoia mbklein: lbjay : , , , , , , , , , , (2 more messages) [00:10:29] mbklein | @more [00:10:29] zoia | mbklein: , , , , , , , , , , (1 more message) [00:11:16] mjg_ | @foaf mjg_ currentProject [00:11:18] zoia | mjg_: mjg_ : , [00:11:21] mbklein @say lbjay: You've got http://rc98.net/foaf#me where you should have [known zoia] [00:11:22] zoia | mbklein: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [00:11:41] anarchivist | @known zoia [00:11:42] zoia | anarchivist: zoia's URI is [00:11:43] mbklein @say lbjay: You've got http://rc98.net/foaf#me where you should have [known zoia] [00:11:43] zoia | lbjay: You've got http://rc98.net/foaf#me where you should have zoia's URI is [00:12:30] MrDys | @quote random [00:12:31] zoia | MrDys: Quote #1138: " man is a bad animal" (added by edsu at 08:46 AM, January 25, 2008) [00:12:44] mbklein | Lots of people seem to have used that URI for zoia, which is understandable, but wrong. :) [00:12:52] mbklein | @knows mbklein zoia [00:12:54] zoia | mbklein: mbklein does not know zoia, but zoia knows mbklein. [00:13:04] dchud | wtd: definitely a chance of more. i'd meant to do more after the jangle one with rsinger but broke the hand and stuff [00:13:34] iand | foaf:knows is symmetric, i.e. if a foaf:knows b then you can infer that b foaf:knows a [00:14:06] anarchivist | iand++ [00:14:27] lbjay | mbklein: thanks [00:14:32] lbjay | @knows lbjay zoia [00:14:33] wtd | dchud: Excellent! Hope to hear more in the spring. [00:14:35] zoia | lbjay: lbjay and zoia know each other. [00:14:44] mbklein | iand: Really? OK. So by asserting that I know someone, I force them to know me too? [00:14:47] anarchivist | BigD: still up big fella? [00:14:57] anarchivist | BigD: we should push on bradw to do a lightning talk [00:15:01] iand | foaf:knows is pretty weak semantically... best thought of as "maybe glanced at while walking quickly past them" [00:15:19] jaf | @quote random [00:15:21] zoia | jaf: Quote #1284: " I'm going to turn into an Office Space parody of myself if I'm not careful" (added by ksclarke at 04:29 PM, March 26, 2008) [00:15:22] fak3r | jay_leno_serving_up_questions-- [00:15:44] fak3r | "is this good for the company?" [00:15:58] fak3r | lumberg++ [00:16:01] lbjay | much better is foaf:iknowabelincolnandyousirarenoabelincoln [00:16:07] * fak3r zzz [00:16:17] mbklein | Interesting. Right now we're parsing everyone's FOAF (except zoia's) on the fly to allow for quick changes, and to keep the graph from getting huge. [00:16:54] ---| <--- fak3r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b5263cd0c0dc713] has left #code4lib () [00:17:13] dchud | wtd: the one you and i did was definitely the most fun :) [00:17:49] lbjay | that reminds me, no one's done any ray carver titled lightning talks [00:18:00] wtd | dchud: That was a fun night. [00:18:28] dchud | wtd: my only regret is that i kept freaking interrupting you [00:18:32] dchud | :( [00:18:48] mbklein | @knows mbklein zoia [00:18:50] zoia | mbklein: mbklein and zoia know each other. [00:19:01] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [i=46a41936@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-62ee4fc372683d19] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [00:19:03] MrDys | @knows anarchivist [band] [00:19:03] wtd | dchud: I don't remember that at all. I just remember a nice talk in a fine hotel bar. [00:19:03] zoia | MrDys: Error: 'The Second Gunmen' is not a valid nick. [00:19:06] dbs | Access 2006 + one big library podcasts were what kept my hope alive for libraries. bastards. [00:19:30] * jaf can't wait to see the conference video [00:19:39] dchud | dbs: yeah, and look at us now, we're mocking you with a bot [00:19:44] wtd | That was my first Access. "These are my peeople," I said to myself. [00:19:56] wtd | Except I spelled it "people." [00:19:58] mbklein | @known [00:19:59] zoia mbklein: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [00:20:08] dchud | wtd: that's toouching. [00:20:10] mbklein | wtd: You spelled it that way when you said it to yourself? [00:20:25] MrDys | sound it out in your head [00:20:35] mjg_ | code4lib 2006 kept me in libraries [00:20:41] dchud | "will you please return the book, please?" [00:20:46] mjg_ | to our collective detriment. [00:20:59] lbjay | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Code4lib2009Notes [00:21:08] jaf | mjg_: ah, but the key word is 'collective' [00:21:16] mbklein | @common interest robcaSSon BigD anarchivist mbklein [00:21:20] wtd | dchud: edsu suggested a breakout session on One Big Library tomorrow. [00:21:34] * mjg_ , dragging us down since 2006 [00:21:35] zoia | mbklein: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [00:21:40] lbjay | @quote add i'm a prickly bugger [00:21:41] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Quote #1734 added. [00:24:31] jaf | wtd: was there talk about One Big Library today? [00:24:31] MrDys | awesometown: http://blog.freebase.com/2009/02/24/freebase-now-available-as-a-public-data-set-on-aws/ [00:24:36] ---| ---> BigD1 [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:25:16] anarchivist | BigD1: hey [00:25:20] mbklein | @reload FOAF [00:25:20] zoia | mbklein: Error: invalid syntax (plugin.py, line 107) [00:25:27] anarchivist | BigD1: we should push bradw to do a lightning talk [00:25:37] wtd | jaf: No. [00:25:49] jaf | ah - that would be cool, tho [00:25:56] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:25:56] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [00:26:01] mbklein | @reload FOAF [00:26:02] zoia | mbklein: Error: There was no plugin FOAF. [00:26:06] mbklein | load FOAF [00:26:25] mbklein | @load FOAF [00:26:27] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [00:26:31] mbklein | @common interest robcaSSon BigD anarchivist mbklein [00:26:31] * jaf is wondering if he puts together a virtual lightning talk, would it get selected for the lightning talk session tomorrow.... [00:26:49] zoia | mbklein: No common s found. [00:26:58] mbklein | @common interest mjg_ edsu [00:26:59] zoia | mbklein: I don't know edsu's URI. [00:27:03] jaf | dchud: Peter Young is scary smart [00:27:14] mbklein | @common interest mjg_ anarchivist [00:27:15] zoia | mbklein: , , [00:27:23] mjg_ | what else is there? [00:27:29] BigD1 | anarchivist: he's thinking of doing one on chronopolis [00:27:36] anarchivist | BigD1: awesome [00:27:39] mbklein | mjg_: Go curate your digital beer. [00:27:47] anarchivist | BigD1: really he should do an update on the AT too [00:27:52] ---| ---> gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:27:54] anarchivist | BigD1: or cram both into a 5 min slot [00:28:00] mjg_ | cram++ [00:28:14] mbklein | @seen edsu [00:28:14] zoia | mbklein: edsu was last seen in #code4lib 7 hours, 8 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: pyrhon = ruby interpreter written in python [00:28:29] ---| <--- gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has left #code4lib () [00:28:45] BigD1 | anarchivist: twss [00:29:01] anarchivist | BigD1-- [00:29:06] mbklein | @later tell edsu Is the crawler no longer crawling? The log ends Monday. [00:29:06] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [00:29:19] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [00:29:34] ---| User: *** BigD1 is now known as BigD [00:29:44] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit ("leaving") [00:30:03] lbjay | dchud++ # for pointing out that code{4}lib logo = codecodecodecodelib [00:30:41] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:30:54] mbklein | sleepy mbklein is sleepy. 'night everybody. [00:31:08] gsf | 'night mbklein [00:31:19] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a3a3dfb489be9711] has quit ("mibbit.com: zzzzzzz") [00:34:20] ---| ---> chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:34:38] mjg_ | sleepy_time++ [00:34:44] ---| <--- mjg_ [n=mjgiarlo@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [00:35:36] ---| <--- chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c227dec3e65fcc0a] has left #code4lib () [00:37:59] BigD | jaf: i think it would [00:38:04] BigD | sorry, scrolling back [00:38:47] jaf | BigD: cool, I might try to put one together tonight here in Taipai, if it wouldn't intrude on someone else's slot [00:39:05] ---| ---> ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:40:39] dchud | jaf: are you hanging out with Peter Young? [00:40:50] jaf | dchud: a bit - he's here at the workshop [00:40:55] jaf | very nice guy [00:41:00] dchud | i said hi to him the other day at LC [00:41:03] dchud | yeah definitely [00:41:36] jaf | so, it's 1:40 pm Wed. here in Taipai [00:41:42] jaf | I'm literally ahead of your time :) [00:44:01] * rangi still beats ya :) [00:45:59] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [00:46:26] BigD | jaf: let me know if i can help coordinate on this side [00:46:38] jaf | BigD: cool, thx. will do [00:46:54] * BigD pumpkins [00:47:05] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [00:47:31] dchud | we are extending OpenVocab! [00:47:47] anarchivist | dchud: how [00:48:30] dchud | anarchivist: we want to be able to state when we are friends of a fro [00:48:41] anarchivist | of a fro? [00:48:46] dchud | foafro [00:48:50] anarchivist | ha [00:48:53] dchud | to go along with broaf [00:49:43] lbjay | ladies and gentlemen, i give you http://open.vocab.org/terms/foafro.html [00:50:13] anarchivist | lbjay++ [00:50:16] anarchivist | dchud++ [00:51:02] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [00:51:03] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [00:52:48] lbjay | [00:52:55] ---| <<-- chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [00:54:36] MrDys | lbjay++ [00:55:01] lbjay | dchud++ # his idea [00:55:28] gsf | @knows MrDys [00:55:29] zoia | gsf: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [00:55:40] gsf | @known MrDys [00:55:41] zoia | gsf: MrDys's URI is [00:58:30] MrDys | jaf: what are you doing in Taipei? [00:58:33] gsf | @list [00:58:34] zoia | gsf: Acronym, Admin, Amazon, Anagram, Anonymous, Assorted, AudioScrobbler, Band, Calais, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, CyborgName, DBpedia, Debian, Delicious, Dict, Disemvowel, Dunno, Eef, Etymology, FOAF, Filter, Games, GasPrices, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, IsItDown, Karma, Kombat, Later, LibraryThing, Linux, Lisppaste, Lolz, MARC, Math, Misc, Motivate, NACO, Nickometer, OCLC, OpenDict, Owner, Pirate, Poll, Praise, (1 more message) [00:58:40] gsf | @more [00:58:41] zoia | gsf: Presidents, Quote, RSS, Reply, Scrabble, Seen, Sing, Stopwords, SucksRocks, Todo, Traffic, Translators, TrueTrue, URL, Unix, UrbanDict, User, WOTD, Weather, Web2, Webopedia, WoGroFuBiCo, WordCount, WordStats, Yum, and Zillow [00:58:42] jaf | MrDys: Attending http://grl2020.net [00:59:00] MrDys | that better be a feminist optricians conference [00:59:07] jaf | heh [00:59:33] anarchivist | MrDys++ [01:00:08] jaf | in hindsight..... [01:01:42] ---| <<-- ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [01:02:06] wtd | jaf: That looks interesting. I'll check it out more tomorrow. [01:02:26] wtd | Or today, I guess, from your point of view. Or possibly yesterday. [01:02:26] jaf | wtd: it's good, but no match for c4l [01:02:57] anarchivist | oh dang mohinder suresh is a stud [01:06:01] lbjay | if you've ever wondered what the "lb" in lbjay stands for, tune in to the next episode of Library Geeks [01:06:25] dchud | battery warning [01:07:53] MrDys | lyndon baines [01:08:21] wtd | Pounds. [01:08:51] lbjay | bzzt [01:09:57] lbjay | @hussein mohinder suresh [01:10:00] zoia | lbjay: Shh! Unhideous merriness [01:10:11] gsf | MrDys: re: presenting tomorrow, just got this doc from the hotel: http://rc98.net/macaddress [01:10:15] ---| <<-- dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a2650b2776efd92c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [01:10:36] anarchivist | gsf++ [01:10:39] MrDys | gsf: sly devil [01:10:46] lbjay | lol [01:10:48] gsf | help from edsu and others [01:10:58] * lbjay wipes tears [01:11:07] MrDys | @rickcheck http://rc98.net/macaddress [01:11:07] zoia | MrDys: your CeCe Winans Featured Selection order has been confirmed! [01:11:12] * MrDys kicks zoia [01:11:30] lbjay | MrDys: they just worked on that for 30 minutes [01:11:48] gsf | RickCheck and RickGuard were disabled [01:11:50] gsf | bwahahaha [01:12:03] MrDys | you people... [01:12:07] JodiS | gsf-- [01:12:13] * JodiS grins [01:12:15] MrDys | I kinda want to work that into my presentation now...but I won't [01:12:34] gsf | MrDys: yeah, don't go to any trouble [01:15:38] gsf | but i'll leave it up, just in case [01:16:00] lbjay | lightning talk idea: how to go from nobody to MC in 4 years [01:17:03] MrDys | gsf: you want to see that entry rendered in beautiful JSON? [01:17:27] gsf | MrDys: ooh, yes [01:17:50] MrDys | @lisppaste3 help [01:17:51] zoia | MrDys: pssst! i heard the d in dspace stands for dchud. pass it on. [01:17:57] MrDys | !lisppaste3 help [01:18:00] gsf | @lisppaste help [01:18:00] zoia | lisppaste: help [01:18:01] lisppaste3 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/code4lib and enter your paste. [01:18:38] lisppaste3 | MrDys pasted "Rickroll auf Freebase" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/76134 [01:18:49] lbjay | @dunno search dchud [01:18:50] zoia | lbjay: 1 found: #198: "pssst! i heard the d in dspace stands for..." [01:19:21] MrDys | I question the "films_considered_the_best_ever" tag, but I can see where they're coming from [01:24:20] gsf | MrDys++ [01:25:01] ---| <<-- scolford [n=scolford@m485336d0.tmodns.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [01:25:34] ---| <<-- phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m6c5e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [01:26:20] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit ("leaving") [01:41:09] ---| <--- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [01:41:16] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [01:41:48] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [01:42:31] anarchivist | http://anarchivist.enjoysthin.gs/30985 [01:44:51] MrDys | time to go hang out w/ Steve [01:44:55] ---| User: *** MrDys is now known as MrDys_zzz [01:46:16] anarchivist | "wear cologne" [01:47:55] MrDys_zzz | the entire city. on your back. 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[02:02:32] JodiS | trying to produce a PDF that I'm happy with :( [02:02:44] * JodiS misses keynote [02:02:46] lbjay | JodiS: oh, for your talk tomorrow [02:02:52] JodiS | yup [02:03:06] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-73.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [02:03:06] lbjay | JodiS: perfection-- [02:03:11] JodiS | perfection-- [02:03:28] lbjay | @foafro jrochkind [02:03:30] zoia | lbjay: Do you know what it's like to be on the bill and to play for 15 minutes and the only people there to see you are the other bands and their girlfriends? Don't talk to me about Rock 'n' Roll! I'm out there in the clubs and on the streets and I'm living it! I AM ROCK 'N' ROLL! [02:06:15] jaf | @quote random [02:06:16] zoia | jaf: Quote #825: " But here I am, and of course I'm suing the cigarette company because on the package they promised to kill me, and here I am." 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[02:48:44] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Leggott, Mark: How Silly Can We Get? || Leggott, Mark: Latest Evergreen Release Available || Leggott, Mark: Conors Comics 10 || Leggott, Mark: Conor Comics 9 chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [03:03:49] chickmarkley | But hey, it's only 10pm in Hawaii [03:05:12] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [03:06:27] ---| ---> danbri [n=danbri@193.72.18.170] has joined #code4lib [03:14:24] chickmarkley | @verbs [03:14:26] zoia | chickmarkley: http://wrongcards.com/ecard/im-sorry-my-thetans-made-me-do-it [03:14:41] chickmarkley | @list [03:14:42] zoia | chickmarkley: Acronym, Admin, Amazon, Anagram, Anonymous, Assorted, AudioScrobbler, Band, Calais, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, CyborgName, DBpedia, Debian, Delicious, Dict, Disemvowel, Dunno, Eef, Etymology, FOAF, Filter, Games, GasPrices, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, IsItDown, Karma, Kombat, Later, LibraryThing, Linux, Lisppaste, Lolz, MARC, Math, Misc, Motivate, NACO, Nickometer, OCLC, OpenDict, Owner, Pirate, Poll, (1 more message) [03:15:29] chickmarkley | @google [03:15:30] zoia | chickmarkley: (google [--{language,restrict} ] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results. [03:15:53] chickmarkley | @more [03:15:54] zoia | chickmarkley: Praise, Presidents, Quote, RSS, Reply, Scrabble, Seen, Sing, Stopwords, SucksRocks, Todo, Traffic, Translators, TrueTrue, URL, Unix, UrbanDict, User, WOTD, Weather, Web2, Webopedia, WoGroFuBiCo, WordCount, WordStats, Yum, and Zillow [03:18:49] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Leggott, Mark: How Silly Can We Get? || Leggott, Mark: Latest Evergreen Release Available || Leggott, Mark: Conors Comics 10 || L [03:27:00] ---| <<-- danbri [n=danbri@unaffiliated/danbri] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [03:27:20] ---| ---> danbri [n=danbri@195.70.5.235] has joined #code4lib [03:35:24] ---| <<-- danbri [n=danbri@unaffiliated/danbri] has quit ("going back to danbri.org") [03:56:01] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [04:01:30] ---| <<-- khatar [n=marc@phear.org] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [04:01:33] ---| ---> khatar [n=marc@phear.org] has joined #code4lib [04:12:37] ---| ---> MattyM [n=matt@62.172.77.66] has joined #code4lib [04:16:57] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Schmidt, Aaron: library frustration: a story in three tweets [04:36:17] ---| <<-- papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [05:13:22] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has joined #code4lib [05:14:01] ---| ---> kevin7kal_ [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has joined #code4lib [05:14:08] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has quit (Connection reset by peer) [05:14:51] ---| User: *** kevin7kal_ is now known as kevin7kal [05:15:41] ---| ---> mmmmmrob [n=mmmmmrob@82-36-211-60.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #code4lib [06:24:49] kgs_ | hurry up coffee! 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Intros start at 8:45. http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [08:32:24] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-53.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [08:32:30] ---| ---> calvinm_ [n=calvinm@wsip-70-164-25-94.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:33:16] ---| ---> mib_kdgypwej [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a73c997c1f3c61fe] has joined #code4lib [08:33:23] ---| User: *** mib_kdgypwej is now known as royt [08:33:32] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1fe4bc76a3da1990] has joined #code4lib [08:33:51] royt | crap, have to use mibbit again [08:34:11] royt | darn hotel wireless nets [08:34:16] akorphan | I've given up trying anything else. [08:35:31] ---| ---> kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:35:47] Kerwick | Is the conference paying for the wireless connection that we are using for "free" or was it a perk for having the conference here? 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[08:46:36] mbklein | @known [08:46:37] zoia mbklein: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [08:46:49] anarchivist | @quote random [08:46:50] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1727: " BillDueber: the dumbest, simplest thing that might possibly work!" (added by dbs at 01:53 PM, February 24, 2009) [08:47:11] MrDys | ecorrado has his MC jacket on [08:47:27] ---| ---> caroldotou [n=carol@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:47:38] mbklein | trick_microphone++ [08:47:48] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:47:52] MrDys | rock the mic [08:48:17] ejk | @sing beastie boys: pass the mic [08:48:19] zoia | True Feelings Are Shown From The Way That I Talk / And This Is Me, Y'All - I M.C., Y'All / My Name Is M.C.A. And I Still Do What I Please / And Now I'd Like To Introduce I'll Pass The Mic To D. For A Fist Full Of Truth [08:48:23] anarchivist | @quote random [08:48:23] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Matienzo, Mark: Make Me A Structured Vocabulary Or I’ll Make One For You [08:48:24] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #611: " I have a monkey chimney broker, who looks around for the best monkey to put up my chimney" (added by rsinger at 04:25 PM, January 10, 2007) [08:48:32] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a44ac2b78e2ea1f8] has joined #code4lib [08:48:32] fak3r | *clap* [08:48:41] ---| ---> highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b3a60eb156768542] has joined #code4lib [08:48:54] ---| ---> emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:48:57] mbklein | Hey, you, with the clap. Get outta here. [08:49:04] anarchivist | mbklein-- [08:49:05] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-53.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:49:23] royt | this wireless net is teh suck [08:49:32] fak3r | mbklein: now you have to say something like, "i haven't seen such and such, since such and such, such and such - I mean come on people!" [08:49:45] mbklein | royt: The hamsters are running as fast as they can. [08:49:53] MrDys | work klaus nomi into that reference [08:49:54] anarchivist | royt: get oclc to pay for more hamsters [08:50:06] MrDys | uberlin [08:50:08] fak3r | royt: we need a network4lib team next year [08:50:08] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [08:50:09] ---| ---> was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has joined #code4lib [08:50:09] jfereira | hampsterdance++ [08:50:17] ---| ---> joshuashaw [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-37.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:50:20] anarchivist | safety_dance-- [08:50:22] MikeTaylor | Why no species-diversity scholarship? [08:50:32] fak3r | MikeTaylor++ [08:50:37] mbklein | badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers MUSHROOM MUSHROOM [08:50:38] anarchivist | MikeTaylor: that's next year [08:50:42] pmurray | @known [08:50:42] zoia pmurray: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [08:50:45] BigD | english majors! [08:50:49] ---| User: *** joshuashaw is now known as jdshaw [08:50:57] kgs | english_majors++ [08:50:58] rsinger | lbjay: your foaf is broken, i think [08:50:58] ---| ---> dhanu [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cca8d2f155a52fe6] has joined #code4lib [08:51:01] anarchivist | @votes2010 [08:51:03] zoia | anarchivist: is that some kinda fucked up sparql query? [08:51:05] fak3r | no, 60% [08:51:05] anarchivist | @hosts2010 [08:51:06] zoia | anarchivist: Asheville, NC [209]; Austin, TX [186]; Madison, WI [165]; Columbus, OH [113]; Bloomington, IN [94] [08:51:07] lbjay | hmm [08:51:08] ---| ---> jtgorman [n=chatzill@libstfsys11.library.uiuc.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:51:09] zoia | Mortals! Tremble in fear, fer ye doom approaches! th' skies gunna burn, th' seven seas boil! He arr....oh, sorry thought it was someone else. 'tis just jtgorman. [08:51:10] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:51:12] anarchivist | WOOO ASHEVILLE [08:51:16] fak3r | diabold mentioned [08:51:18] anarchivist | C4LIBBERS GONE WILD [08:51:20] BigD | how the heck is NV beating austin?!? [08:51:24] MikeTaylor | Is there a page documenting the special commands for zoia, e.g. what is the URI associated with JodiS? [08:51:26] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-59c99f6a21159731] has joined #code4lib [08:51:34] jtgorman | oh crap, meant to vote yesterday [08:51:34] anarchivist | BigD: better barbecue [08:51:40] JodiS | MikeTaylor: there's a little at http://code4lib.org/irc [08:51:41] rsinger | lbjay: scratch that -- maybe not [08:51:41] MrDys | I...wonder.... [08:51:43] JodiS | @list [08:51:44] zoia | JodiS: Acronym, Admin, Amazon, Anagram, Anonymous, Assorted, AudioScrobbler, Band, Calais, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, CyborgName, DBpedia, Debian, Delicious, Dict, Disemvowel, Dunno, Eef, Etymology, FOAF, Filter, Games, GasPrices, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, IsItDown, Karma, Kombat, Later, LibraryThing, Linux, Lisppaste, Lolz, MARC, Math, Misc, Motivate, NACO, Nickometer, OCLC, OpenDict, Owner, Pirate, Poll, Praise, (1 more message) [08:51:48] robcaSSon | @hosts2010 [08:51:49] zoia | robcaSSon: Asheville, NC [209]; Austin, TX [186]; Madison, WI [165]; Columbus, OH [113]; Bloomington, IN [94] [08:51:50] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [08:51:52] pmurray | @excuse [08:51:53] zoia | pmurray: My excuse for today is "HMOs" [08:51:55] JodiS | @list FOAF [08:51:56] zoia | JodiS: common, foaf, forget, know, known, knows, and predicates [08:52:12] JodiS | MikeTaylor: more documentation would be awesome... [08:52:16] anarchivist | @pirate [ lolz [ obama ] ] [08:52:20] fak3r | ballot stuffing is not a laughing matter [08:52:20] kgs | common interest JodiS kgs [08:52:20] ---| <<-- royt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a73c997c1f3c61fe] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [08:52:22] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c448834190777f7] has joined #code4lib [08:52:28] * JodiS has no interests at present [08:52:40] JodiS | maybe post-presentation I'll get interested in something or other... [08:52:41] kgs | common interest royt kgs [08:52:44] pmurray | @common interest kgs pmurray [08:52:55] BigD | but bloomington has a White Castle!!! 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[08:53:28] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c222360cfec4b39a] has joined #code4lib [08:53:31] lbjay | rsinger: no it was failing [08:53:33] fak3r | time to get a better search engine [08:53:36] anarchivist | a turtle wearing a thong [08:53:41] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d9b834efe037a8eb] has joined #code4lib [08:53:41] mbklein | zoia's hung up on either pirate or lolz it seems [08:53:42] ---| ---> decasm_nomad [n=decasm@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:53:44] akorphan | dongle++ [08:53:45] lbjay | rsinger: s/xmlsn/xmlns/ [08:53:50] fak3r | macs are generally the issue [08:53:50] anarchivist | @obama [08:53:51] zoia | anarchivist: BARACK OBAMA WARMED UP YOUR CAR FOR YOU [08:53:51] akorphan | dongle in a thongle [08:53:52] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-61c2eac51cfc93a8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [08:53:52] rsinger | lbjay: ah, ok [08:53:59] JodiS | @acronym T.H.I.S. [08:54:00] Baroquem | Who's the best person to go to for a question about using the WorldCat registry API to look up openurl resolvers? [08:54:01] zoia | JodiS: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [08:54:01] BigD | anarchivist: mmm, aged white castles! [08:54:01] akorphan | happy_hour++ [08:54:05] decasm_nomad | wow. i was able to get on with pidgin! [08:54:08] MrDys | @cyborg this [08:54:10] zoia | MrDys: T.H.I.S.: Technician Hardwired for Infiltration and Sabotage [08:54:18] akorphan | @cyborg dongle [08:54:20] lbjay | @ana [08:54:20] zoia | akorphan: D.O.N.G.L.E.: Digital Operational Neohuman Generated for Logical Exploration [08:54:20] anarchivist | BigD: i've got one in my neighborhood [08:54:21] zoia | lbjay: Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [08:54:22] JodiS | dlovins: dunno... how do you get an acronym from zoia, folks? [08:54:25] fak3r | sarcastic laughing noted [08:54:25] ejk | vote.code4lib.org/login = "We're sorry, but something went wrong." [08:54:26] anarchivist | never touch another man's dongle [08:54:30] JodiS | akorphan++ [08:54:31] MikeTaylor | My lame colleague brought me a Heinekin last night. [08:54:32] anarchivist | JodiS: @actonym [08:54:33] anarchivist | err [08:54:35] robcaSSon | royt++ [08:54:37] anarchivist | @acronym anarchivist [08:54:39] rsinger @foaf lbjay foafro [08:54:39] zoia | anarchivist: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [08:54:41] fak3r | anarchivist: not that there's anything wrong with that [08:54:41] zoia rsinger: lbjay : [08:54:41] JodiS | mjg: you tracking ejg's problem? [08:54:41] * jtgorman has yet again thrown some votes towards the pretty much impossible one [08:54:42] ---| ---> jbrinley [n=adelie@havok.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [08:54:49] ---| ---> skoczko2 [i=46a41916@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fcaded0f80140c7b] has joined #code4lib [08:55:00] kgs | @lolz [mccainize [wunder 32301]] [08:55:00] anarchivist | casual_ejm++ [08:55:01] fak3r | I noticed *now* [08:55:03] rsinger | ah, only foaf ns [08:55:07] jtgorman | unless OCLC folks are being clever and holding themselves in reserve for the last moment, altering all their votes so that it just looks like the others are ahead [08:55:09] pmurray | jtgorman++ # Throwing votes [08:55:17] zoia | kgs: MAH FRENZ, TEH CURRENT TEMPERACHUR IN TALLAHASEE, FLORIDA IZ 48.2°F (7:53 IZ EST ON FEBRUARY 25, 2009). CONDISHUNS: MOSTLY CLOUDY. HUMIDITY: 77%. DEW POINT: 42.8°F. WINDCHILL: 48.2°F. PRESURE: 30.33 IN 1027 HPA (RISIN). [08:55:29] lbjay | @foaf lbjay ov:foafro [08:55:30] fak3r | OCLC != TLA [08:55:31] zoia | lbjay: lbjay : [08:55:35] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:55:36] dlovins | MrDys++ [08:55:42] akorphan | Does zoia have a Palinizing function? [08:55:45] MikeTaylor | Index Data++ @-) [08:55:50] jbrinley | @palin [08:55:51] zoia | jbrinley: SARAH PALIN IS YOUR NEW MORNING AFTER [08:55:55] fak3r | he wrote Yazz? Upstairs at Erics? [08:55:57] jfereira | you betcha [08:55:58] ---| ---> eby_ [n=ebyr@c-71-206-107-74.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [08:55:58] ---| ---> cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has joined #code4lib [08:56:05] ---| ---> escowles [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-560f6bc55a567075] has joined #code4lib [08:56:10] ---| ---> kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c8e8570902ba2d57] has joined #code4lib [08:56:11] MikeTaylor | Not only that, he is insanely tall. [08:56:11] anarchivist | @lolz [ embed [obamit [mccainize [pirate [obama ] ] ] ]] [08:56:12] MrDys | @sing yaz [08:56:14] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44723ee88a80d419] has joined #code4lib [08:56:27] ---| <<-- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [08:56:33] fak3r | skills to pay the bills are also good to have [08:56:40] ---| ---> fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-607392c7f42df1a7] has joined #code4lib [08:56:40] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [08:56:44] * jtgorman smells frosted flakes [08:56:45] anarchivist | Z39.50 has a possee [08:56:49] lbjay | anarchivist: are your dvcs slides somewhere? [08:56:54] anarchivist | s/e$/ [08:57:01] anarchivist | lbjay: i can upload 'em [08:57:14] MrDys | robcaSSon: how's your typhoid? [08:57:15] zoia | anarchivist: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [08:57:15] anarchivist | lbjay: right now they're a 60 meg pdf file [08:57:21] zoia | like letting go / but when it comes right down to it, baby / who wants to know? (no-one) / (chorus) [08:57:25] robcaSSon | MrDys: much better. [08:57:28] fak3r | bigtable++ [08:57:32] anarchivist | rob "typhoid mary" caSSon [08:57:34] MrDys | ate like The Kinks? [08:57:37] JodiS | Baroquem: royt can tell you who to talk to [08:57:39] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-abcd62a25e3eaafd] has joined #code4lib [08:57:40] anarchivist | MrDys++ [08:57:44] BigD | MrDys: with Lola [08:57:46] JodiS | @ana ahead of his time [08:57:47] zoia | JodiS: I am the hide of as [08:57:50] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e64ded56ec968e41] has joined #code4lib [08:57:54] ---| ---> idlynn [i=46a41977@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6183cde405d13678] has joined #code4lib [08:58:03] ---| ---> mib_xxmepy6r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-06bd762210e8c788] has joined #code4lib [08:58:05] lbjay | anarchivist: cool. later then i guess [08:58:14] fak3r | height++ [08:58:16] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c492d347a8884213] has joined #code4lib [08:58:24] pmurray | @pirate [lolz [mccainize [obamit [kgs [dick [embed [canuck [excuse]]]]]]]] [08:58:28] MikeTaylor | We've ben release OSS4LIB at least since 1995/06/19, the release date of YAZ 1.0 [08:58:32] BigD | how's the weather up there? [08:58:42] robcaSSon | indexdata++ [08:58:42] anarchivist | indexdata++ [08:58:46] ---| ---> gszcxv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a14ef65dafc12969] has joined #code4lib [08:58:47] jfereira | bacon4lunch++ [08:58:53] JodiS | ejk: Still having a problem at vote.code4lib.org/login ? Did you login at code4lib.org first? [08:59:02] pmurray | pmurray-- # May have broken zoia [08:59:02] Kerwick | zebra++ [08:59:04] ---| ---> mib_ja6ph2eb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b1b57a1909132ab8] has joined #code4lib [08:59:10] ---| ---> epoz [i=46a41911@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e7753bb807566bd8] has joined #code4lib [08:59:11] JodiS | indexdata++ #for opensourcing lots of stuff [08:59:17] ---| ---> mib_fe7m7txz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44568bdada5578ee] has joined #code4lib [08:59:20] fak3r | speaker_looking_at_audience++ [08:59:24] ---| User: *** mib_fe7m7txz is now known as royt [08:59:26] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred 'n has be logged. Please contact 'tis bot's administrator fer more information. [08:59:30] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1eba6ff3f5522913] has joined #code4lib [08:59:37] jbrinley | does that mean I have to look back? [08:59:42] fak3r | panic on the streets of london [08:59:49] fak3r | noblog-- [08:59:49] ---| ---> rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-47ad2f890d568b42] has joined #code4lib [08:59:53] MikeTaylor | Yeah, he is. He's just being modest. [09:00:02] pmurray | @pirate [lolz [mccainize [obamit [kgs [dick [embed [canuck [palin]]]]]]]] [09:00:07] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d36bbd317af46fa3] has joined #code4lib [09:00:18] MikeTaylor | Anyway, Seb does have a blog, at indexdata.wordpress.com -- he just never posts on it. [09:00:28] BigD | "if you have something to say, you should release it as code" ha! [09:00:34] royt | pmurray-- # overly recursive zoia commands [09:00:34] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred 'n has be logged. Please contact 'tis bot's administrator fer more information. [09:00:37] JodiS | :) [09:00:38] ---| User: *** jbrinley is now known as jbirnley_ [09:00:41] JodiS | MikeTaylor++ [09:00:56] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1472a4fac055ce1f] has joined #code4lib [09:01:00] fak3r | he could just reload the same slide to test if ppl were paying attention [09:01:02] pmurray | royt: Yeah -- no doubt. [09:01:06] highermath_c4 | Ah, single use slides [09:01:07] pmurray | pmurray-- # For trying again [09:01:09] anarchivist | faulty_dongle+ [09:01:10] fak3r | can ya'll see that in the back? [09:01:14] anarchivist | faulty_dongle++ [09:01:23] ---| User: *** jbirnley_ is now known as not_jbrinley [09:01:26] rsinger | cofee+ [09:01:27] BigD | anarchivist: there are pills for that [09:01:35] mib_ja6ph2eb | nice contrast [09:01:36] BigD | mjgiarlo sells them [09:01:37] fak3r | fullscreen_ftw [09:01:40] ---| ---> mib_2e038qzc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-92648fb71b1564c0] has joined #code4lib [09:01:44] JodiS | @quote add If you have something to say, you should release it as code. [09:01:44] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Quote #1735 added. [09:01:47] Kerwick | dongle_viagra++ [09:01:50] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [09:01:51] fak3r | only a few? [09:01:53] ejk | JodiS: I logged out of code4lib.org and logged in again and it worked [09:01:58] ---| User: *** edc_detached is now known as ecorrado [09:02:16] * ecorrado having issues connecting to IRC directly today [09:02:17] anarchivist | BigD: i thought that was abarrera [09:02:19] ecorrado | :-( [09:02:22] fak3r | double vision maybe [09:02:24] JodiS | ejk: great! thanks for sharing problems, and resolution, both [09:02:42] mib_ja6ph2eb | The right screen is in soft focus. [09:02:43] BigD | anarchivist: abarrera is selling diet pills [09:03:04] JodiS | MikeTaylor: "not very often", indeed :) [09:03:05] anarchivist | BigD: sweet, i need to watch my figure [09:03:37] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:43] * ecorrado glad he didn't lose his dongle [09:03:54] ---| ---> fak3r_ [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:03:58] ---| ---> bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f964edd4954688c] has joined #code4lib [09:04:03] fak3r | woot, I'm in under irssi [09:04:05] ---| ---> mmmmmrob [n=mmmmmrob@82-36-211-60.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #code4lib [09:04:06] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=46a4195c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34715973842a02cd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:04:13] ---| User: *** fak3r_ is now known as fak3r [09:04:13] JodiS | @quote search release [09:04:17] zoia | JodiS: 4 found: #1031: " I find it sad when people just free...", #13: "< roy> i mean i think they just announced a...", #1735: "If you have something to say, you should...", and #651: "< eby> i'll be damned if i'm posting press..." [09:04:27] JodiS | @quote get 1735 [09:04:28] zoia | JodiS: Quote #1735: "If you have something to say, you should release it as code." (added by JodiS at 09:01 AM, February 25, 2009) [09:04:30] royt | fak3r++ [09:04:36] anarchivist | @quote search dongle [09:04:36] JodiS | @quote remove 1735 [09:04:39] ecorrado | @quote search indexdata [09:04:39] zoia | anarchivist: 3 found: #1206: "< mjgiarlo> jingle-jangle with the django dongle!", #1716: " i have my dongle, i have everything", and #1728: " use your django jangle dongle to..." [09:04:42] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. [09:04:43] zoia | ecorrado: 1 found: #1021: " i love the indexdata folks, zebra is a..." [09:04:45] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:04:46] smkiewel | could someone unblock my code4lib acct pls? same as nick [09:04:56] jtgorman | or sing [09:05:00] ecorrado | @quote get 1021 [09:05:01] zoia | ecorrado: Quote #1021: " i love the indexdata folks, zebra is a bad idea." (added by a user that is no longer registered at 09:42 AM, September 26, 2007) [09:05:10] JodiS | @quote add I guess I've always thought that if you have something to say, you should release it as code. [09:05:10] wickr | smkiewel: just a sec [09:05:10] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Quote #1736 added. [09:05:13] jtgorman | I think singing solutions should be allowed as well as code [09:05:22] ---| <<-- gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c448834190777f7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:05:30] * ecorrado in favor of interpertive dance [09:05:36] robcaSSon | pazpar2++ [09:05:45] * kat3 loves XML examples, no matter what [09:05:48] * robcaSSon is in the future [09:05:49] JodiS | wickr++ [09:05:52] BigD | kat3: me2 [09:05:53] ---| ---> bseitz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-43aa81f22c09cff3] has joined #code4lib [09:05:54] anarchivist | pazpar2++ [09:05:55] anarchivist | pazpar2++ [09:06:05] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:06:09] ecorrado | irssi++ [09:06:11] ---| ---> steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-45f20ccbeef50a13] has joined #code4lib [09:06:17] MikeTaylor | Tim @ LibraryThiing, if you're here -- can you explain why you don't likew us to call this metasearching? [09:06:18] * mbklein now wishes that, when the technical difficulties started, he had just gone with "People / People who know people / Are the FOAF-iest people / in the world..." [09:06:25] ejk | irssi++ [09:06:33] ---| ---> _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5a2dd1afe2e9e4b7] has joined #code4lib [09:06:41] ---| ---> mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-08491d9bd58aa081] has joined #code4lib [09:06:49] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-18deca3b00eb8012] has joined #code4lib [09:06:49] mbklein | MikeTaylor: If Tim doesn't answer, I'll take a stab at it. :) [09:06:50] * jbrinley wonders if connecting using the alternate pre-conf wifi code is why his ports are still blocked [09:06:52] fak3r | page loading? [09:07:02] jbrinley | and how do I change that? [09:07:03] ---| ---> btw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ac67b7b11aa89449] has joined #code4lib [09:07:12] fak3r | jbrinley: I don't think so, I did the same. [09:07:14] anarchivist | pz2++ [09:07:19] rsinger | jbrinley: that's what i use [09:07:21] wickr | smkiewel: you should be good now, let me know if you have any problems (or yell at me from across the table) [09:07:25] rsinger | jbrinley: and it seems fine [09:07:27] edsu | MikeTaylor: maybe because LT searches are over an aggregated view? and metasearch only happesn when looking for records to aggregate? [09:07:31] BillDueber | jbrinley: My ports are also blocked -- I'm stuck with ssh tunnels. [09:07:37] fak3r | jbrinley: are you in winders? what is it, ipconfig /release, renew all? [09:07:40] highermath_c4 | xml+- [09:07:45] ---| <<-- mib_ja6ph2eb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b1b57a1909132ab8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:07:52] MikeTaylor | edsu: sorry, I don't understand the distinction. [09:08:01] robcaSSon | pazpar2 is seriously cool shit, btw [09:08:01] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6eace4ffa929ab2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:08:03] JodiS | MikeTaylor & edsu: federated search distinguished from metasearch [09:08:07] fak3r | search for "hot dog" [09:08:11] ---| User: *** robcaSSon is now known as indexdata_fanboy [09:08:16] ---| <<-- gugek [n=gugek@adsl-221-108-16.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit () [09:08:21] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:08:21] MikeTaylor | Woah! That XML is to complex! [09:08:23] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:08:24] fak3r | short URL field-- [09:08:25] ---| ---> abarrera [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b667cb8063c12cb0] has joined #code4lib [09:08:29] anarchivist | MikeTaylor++ [09:08:31] highermath_c4 | mmm user-freindly [09:08:31] ejk | OK [09:08:32] fak3r | MikeTaylor: I can't read it... [09:08:35] rsinger | couldn't this just be done with HTTP? [09:08:39] * ecorrado can even write that xml code [09:08:59] rsinger | MikeTaylor: that was intended for you [09:09:23] mbklein | @known BigD [09:09:24] anarchivist | rsinger: always a wet blanket [09:09:24] zoia | mbklein: BigD's URI is [09:09:33] indexdata_fan | anarchivist++ [09:09:37] rsinger | yeah [09:09:41] jtgorman | are three still the two liblime presentations? I seem to remember something about some of the people not being able to make it [09:09:42] mbklein | readable_xml++ [09:09:43] mib_xxmepy6r | http://www.indexdata.dk/pazpar2/ [09:09:44] * jtgorman sigs [09:09:46] BillDueber | anarchivist: And of course, you don't want to know why it's wet [09:09:47] rsinger | teh suxx0r [09:09:57] JodiS | jtgorman: check the schedule http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [09:09:58] * jtgorman is in a bad state this morning and he doesn't know why [09:10:03] anarchivist | indexdata_fanboy++ [09:10:08] ecorrado | jtgorman: kados is filling in for galen [09:10:14] * rsinger was mostly just curious [09:10:16] jtgorman | ecorrado: ah, ok [09:10:23] ---| User: *** indexdata_fanboy is now known as robcaSSon [09:10:23] anarchivist | "a cool ranch"? [09:10:26] anarchivist | mm [09:10:28] anarchivist | cool ranch [09:10:41] BillDueber | "The mormon church, of all things" [09:10:58] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f168ad803e1f3608] has joined #code4lib [09:11:00] anarchivist | noble_savages++ [09:11:05] MikeTaylor | Independent Man is even taller than Seb. [09:11:07] BigD | i look like that when i work out [09:11:09] fak3r | the shot is kinda taken out of context [09:11:10] mbklein | That guy's gotta be FREEZING. [09:11:12] jtgorman | wow [09:11:13] ---| ---> truk77 [n=knordstr@dynamic-129-120-92-181.dynamic.unt.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:11:17] BigD | where's abarrera? [09:11:26] fak3r | can't have enough tshirts [09:11:36] cschx | guesses XXL [09:11:40] BillDueber | No man needs more than 11 tshirts [09:11:41] ---| ---> Scurvy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-00803d24b4ef950d] has joined #code4lib [09:11:41] robcaSSon | BigD: looking for his child support [09:11:42] jfereira | did he just say genital sense? [09:11:42] anarchivist | BigD: hustling to buy more diet pills [09:11:52] fak3r | jfereira: likely [09:11:54] mib_xxmepy6r | roger williams? [09:11:55] abarrera | robcaSSon++ [09:11:58] abarrera | anarchivist++ [09:12:08] decasm_nomad | genital sense is the 9th sense [09:12:14] ---| ---> endupok [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a719a52bb767fc67] has joined #code4lib [09:12:23] fak3r | I would go with remarkable, but... [09:12:37] ejk | Independant Man is watching you walk to dinner [09:12:45] truk77 | keynote currently going on? I wasn't able to make it out this year [09:12:47] fak3r | how many seats do these people really need? [09:12:49] * robcaSSon is guessing oclc, btw [09:12:49] MikeTaylor | It's true ... as a company, the way we celebrate is by attending conferences. [09:12:52] ---| ---> tsierra [n=tsierra@tsierra.lib.ncsu.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:12:53] anarchivist | truk77: yeah [09:12:59] fak3r | MikeTaylor: and sitting [09:13:01] ---| <<-- endupok [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a719a52bb767fc67] has quit (Client Quit) [09:13:08] fak3r | MikeTaylor: and eating candy. [09:13:08] akorphan | ("Sebastian", "preferred t-shirt size", "xl") [09:13:15] fak3r | akorphan++ [09:13:15] anarchivist | robcaSSon: sersol maybe [09:13:16] smkiewel | wickr: thx - it's working now [09:13:19] * rosy1280 wants a spear [09:13:25] truk77 | must be HammerTime then [09:13:30] rsinger | akorphan: can you express that in PQN? [09:13:40] MikeTaylor | You can express ANYTHING in PQN! [09:13:46] BillDueber | Was teh architect also working in Brazil? [09:13:46] robcaSSon | anarchivist: maybe. oclc is going with pazpar2 for their fedsearch in worldcat local too [09:13:46] ---| ---> reeset [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b13075f40cb44e0] has joined #code4lib [09:13:47] anarchivist | please_hammer_dont_hurt_em++ [09:13:53] fak3r | unsupported dome? sounds like some software I've used before [09:13:56] highermath_c4 | I didn't know that [09:13:56] fak3r | marc slam [09:13:57] ---| ---> endupok [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c90bfbb82dc48102] has joined #code4lib [09:14:01] anarchivist | robcaSSon: o rly? [09:14:05] ---| <<-- jdshaw [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-37.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [09:14:23] abarrera | is he describing BigD? [09:14:27] anarchivist | abarrera++ [09:14:28] BigD | sounds like me on the weekends [09:14:37] BigD | dammit, u type fast [09:14:38] BigD | ;) [09:14:48] mbklein | It's only unsupported because of the big BETA! badge. [09:14:49] anarchivist | BigD: see, you are more of a club kid than i am [09:14:56] abarrera | BigD: cause my hands aren't on two bagels like yours [09:15:01] steambadger | Can you express existential angst in PQN? [09:15:01] fak3r | Interesting tidbit: one of the architect's names was art vandelia [09:15:05] kat3 | guys with pants dont belong on buildings [09:15:19] MrDys | lousy newspapers [09:15:20] mbklein | fak3r: Isn't he an importer/exporter? [09:15:25] ---| <<-- harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44723ee88a80d419] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:15:25] mib_xxmepy6r | if i was a bird i would total perch on that dude's head [09:15:26] mjg_ | fak3r: took a break from the latex import/export biz? [09:15:27] anarchivist | @quote add < MikeTaylor> You can express ANYTHING in PQN! [09:15:28] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1737 added. [09:15:31] BillDueber | fak3r: I love his onions. [09:15:33] rosy1280 | pants are overrated [09:15:42] MikeTaylor | What are Independent Man's super-powers? Can he do his own tech-support? [09:15:56] rsinger | i have been quoted at a talis internal conference that i work "pants optional" [09:15:57] * anarchivist is living a pants-free life [09:16:06] BillDueber | I see the spear, but where's the magic helmet? [09:16:06] fak3r | library hackers? [09:16:07] steambadger | What about righteous indignation? Can you express righteous indignation in PQN? [09:16:16] abarrera | anarchivist [09:16:18] lbjay | roger_williams++ # i love this [09:16:24] jstroop | magic helmet? [09:16:28] fak3r | too religiously thinking - how can that be? [09:16:29] abarrera | anarchivist: please don't do that for the next how to meet people at c4l talk [09:16:40] rsinger | spear and magic helmet! [09:16:40] anarchivist | abarrera: step 1 [09:16:48] anarchivist | take off pants [09:16:48] BigD | anarchivist: at least wear the boots [09:16:49] dchud | i heard roger williams can configure metasearch target connections without consulting documentation [09:16:50] jstroop | magic helmet? [09:16:53] anarchivist | abarrera: step 2: ??? [09:16:58] anarchivist | step 3: profit! [09:16:58] royt | an atheist is too religious free thinking [09:17:09] MikeTaylor | I have another lightning talk this afternoon ... shall I do the whole thing in PQN? [09:17:11] mbklein | THAT's how he's bringing this back to code4lib! [09:17:13] fak3r | royt: that's what I was trying to say, but failed it. [09:17:16] rosy1280 | i think rhode islanders are still that way [09:17:19] anarchivist | MikeTaylor: yes [09:17:23] abarrera | BigD: just don't put a $1 in anarchivists' roythong [09:17:25] fak3r | horay for hating! [09:17:26] BillDueber | jstroop: Elmer Fudd. Spear and Magic Helmet. Bugs Bunny opera. [09:17:27] rsinger | MikeTaylor: OMG yes [09:17:27] mbklein | "Founded by a bunch of people who don't really like each other." [09:17:34] ecorrado | if c4l10 is in Austin, we can all where cwboy hats [09:17:39] fak3r | BillDueber++ [09:17:42] epoz | trivia moment: dudes in lion skins often represent Hercules [09:17:43] robcaSSon | mbklein: code4lib [09:17:48] BigD | ecorrado: and no pants [09:17:49] anarchivist | epoz++ [09:17:56] lbjay | I hate everyone in this channel [09:18:03] jstroop | BillDueber: I get it--was trying to reinact [09:18:03] fak3r | lbjay++ [09:18:09] kat3 | ecorrado: can? more like required to [09:18:09] mjg_ | Finally a place where my chaps are kind of not abnormal. [09:18:12] highermath_c4 | coon-skin caps ++ [09:18:13] jbrinley @foaf lbjay hates [09:18:14] zoia jbrinley: lbjay : [09:18:15] anarchivist | http://anarchivist.enjoysthin.gs/30985 [09:18:19] mbklein | robcaSSon: Exactly [09:18:20] BillDueber | jstroop++ , BillDueber-- [09:18:27] dchud | lbjay: me, i'm LOVIN' EVERY MINUTE OF IT [09:18:32] rosy1280 we hate you too lbjay [09:18:36] ecorrado | kat3: can is a nice way of saying you will [09:18:37] rsinger | dchud++ [09:18:37] MrDys | that's some happening teenage years [09:18:39] MikeTaylor | Seb knew how to party when he was a teenager, [09:18:44] jbrinley | lbjay: your foaf needs some updating, then [09:18:47] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f4edea606089c39e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:18:49] rsinger | dchud: i mean, we're just a bunch of folks WORKING FOR THE WEEKEND [09:18:57] dchud | haw haw! [09:19:02] lbjay | rsinger++ [09:19:03] mbklein | <#IndependentMan> [09:19:04] jtgorman | speaking of pants, I had the disturbing image this morning when scanning through my feedreader, thanks to kgs, of all the folks at the code4lib conference wearing short shorts. [09:19:07] ecorrado | we should have bloddy mary's with breakfast [09:19:22] fak3r | ecorrado++ [09:19:24] * anarchivist was abusing glue behind the 7-eleven [09:19:26] ---| <<-- ccatalfo [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cb89811f72f8d7d9] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:19:31] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [09:19:35] lbjay | @sing kenny rogers : islands in the stream [09:19:37] zoia | Honest love, we feel, needs no conversation / And we ride it together, uh huh / Making love with each other, uh huh / Islands in the stream, that is what we are [09:19:46] robcaSSon | anarchivist: that was last night [09:19:46] * kat3 needs to buy a hat now [09:19:47] anarchivist | jtgorman: my short shorts are in my room [09:19:50] BigD | uh huh [09:19:50] jbrinley | @pirate [sing [randtune]] [09:19:53] jfereira | @sing Randy Newman [09:19:57] ---| ---> mjg_1 [n=mjg@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:20:10] highermath_c4 | ecorrado: it's not too late. Call room service [09:20:15] edsu | MikeTaylor: perhaps i've never understood metasearch, but i always assumed it would trigger live queries of several data sources [09:20:25] jtgorman | @sing Royal Teens : Short Shorts [09:20:27] ---| <--- mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-08491d9bd58aa081] has left #code4lib () [09:20:36] kgs | for those who missed it: http://freerangelibrarian.com/2009/02/25/coming-down-the-catwalk-in-her-library-cardigan/ [09:20:36] mbklein | @foaf MrDys dysinterest [09:20:38] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [09:20:39] anarchivist | edsu: thats what pazpar2 does [09:20:44] truk77 | next year, they need live streaming feeds for the code4lib conference :) [09:21:00] jtgorman | truk77: I'm happy enough with videos eventually ;) [09:21:01] anarchivist | kgs-- #for the face spritz [09:21:02] fak3r | how many years do ebooks have to fail before they become popular? [09:21:02] anarchivist | # and the truffles [09:21:03] BigD | truk77: not on THIS network... [09:21:05] zoia | jbrinley: 'n I wanna sleep wit' ye / in th' desert t'night / wit' a billion stars all around / 'cause I gotta peaceful easy feelin' [09:21:06] zoia | We'll hire a band / With an accordion / A violin / And a tenor who can sing [09:21:06] dchud | that stuff is definitely happening now [09:21:07] ---| <<-- MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a44ac2b78e2ea1f8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:21:08] zoia | (spoken) Ooh man, dig that crazy chick. / Who wears short shorts / We wear short shorts / They're such short shorts [09:21:09] zoia | mbklein: MrDys : [09:21:19] MrDys | @interest MrDys [09:21:20] zoia | MrDys: That's pretty sick, you might want to cleanse your palate with http://mintymlp.blogspot.com/ [09:21:39] kgs | anarchavist the truffles and face mist were so good last night. sorry you didn't have any [09:21:43] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c222360cfec4b39a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:21:48] fak3r | blah, you can link to anything - it's the new black [09:21:49] rosy1280 | ebooks-- [09:21:49] lbjay | kgs: btw, i love your "Posted on this day" links [09:22:01] lbjay | relevance is overrated [09:22:16] mbklein | @foaf MrDys interest [09:22:17] anarchivist | kgs: probably better that way [09:22:19] kgs | lbjay you mean in general? yes, I am even surprised by them [09:22:20] fak3r | web2.0 gurus now working at your local starbucks [09:22:20] anarchivist | kgs: i got by with an episode of heroes and a few glasses of water [09:22:24] zoia | mbklein: MrDys : [09:22:27] ---| <<-- Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1fe4bc76a3da1990] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:22:27] ---| <<-- btw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ac67b7b11aa89449] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:22:27] ---| <<-- idlynn [i=46a41977@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6183cde405d13678] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:22:29] ecorrado | @sing johnny cash : sunday morning coming down [09:22:30] jtgorman | lbjay: I think it's more serendipity is underrated [09:22:30] ---| ---> asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-01ed7ce4896e6ff8] has joined #code4lib [09:22:32] zoia | And there's nothing short a' dying / That's half as lonesome as the sound / Of the sleeping city sidewalk / And Sunday morning coming down. [09:22:34] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b0fe89e5ad67b70e] has joined #code4lib [09:22:36] ---| <<-- smkiewel [i=46a41963@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e5dd4af486e3a0e0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:22:40] ---| ---> ethomsen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-27fefae966bf30fa] has joined #code4lib [09:22:43] ejk | @lolz Independant Man is annoyed by the cursor in his armpit [09:22:52] rsinger | yes, IRC [09:22:58] fak3r | no, nothing better than blabbing to no one on twitter [09:23:01] ecorrado | we have to do better then twitter [09:23:02] dlovins | David Weinberger vs. Nova Spivack. It was pretty cool [09:23:03] fak3r | rsinger++ [09:23:18] fak3r | old_friends++ [09:23:39] fak3r | the rhode island market forces [09:23:40] edsu | dchud: sounds familiar :) [09:23:40] anarchivist | @foaf anarchivist interest [09:23:41] zoia | ejk: An error has occurred and has been logged. 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[09:23:44] ---| <<-- royt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44568bdada5578ee] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:24:02] ecorrado | market place is not always right [09:24:02] fak3r | @foaf fak3r interest [09:24:07] ---| ---> btw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d3fcc1ad325518a] has joined #code4lib [09:24:13] anarchivist | marc++ [09:24:14] anarchivist | marc++ [09:24:15] anarchivist | marc++ [09:24:19] rosy1280 | marc-- [09:24:23] MrDys | marky_mark++ [09:24:27] ---| ---> mib_ym0p0j [i=46a41977@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-86d3b594e7b0c75c] has joined #code4lib [09:24:27] edsu | dlovins: hard to imagine weinberger losing a debate, would've liked to see that [09:24:29] steambadger | SH++ [09:24:32] fak3r | funky_bunch++ [09:24:37] abarrera | funky_bunch-- [09:24:43] fak3r | dammn [09:24:47] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-98efbee028eeccdb] has joined #code4lib [09:24:47] mjg_ | funky_chicken++ [09:24:50] pmurray | @pirate [mccainize [obamit [kgs [dick [embed [canuck [excuse]]]]]]] [09:24:51] anarchivist | henrietta avram has a posse [09:24:53] abarrera | fak3r: i was typing just as you did that [09:24:54] ecorrado | the best talk combo I have seen was Stallman v. Raymond at Yale [09:25:09] fak3r | abarrera: we're "on the same page" then [09:25:12] mbklein | Again with the no pants [09:25:14] kat3 | code4lib uniforms next year? [09:25:14] Scurvy | they need cardigans [09:25:16] fak3r | 300, avoided it [09:25:21] fak3r | no, 300 bc [09:25:22] mjg_ | "THIS... IS... PAZPAR!!!!" [09:25:22] ejk | Didn't they all die at the end? [09:25:24] * jbrinley should watch more movies [09:25:25] rosy1280 | more spears! [09:25:26] truk77 | ugh, no human being should have to read/write PQN. Blech. [09:25:28] mbklein | mjg_++ [09:25:30] fak3r | spoiler: the dog dies [09:25:31] lbjay | mjg_: lol [09:25:35] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: code4lib update: LuSql talk done; Lucene, Solr links || O'Steen, Ben: Developer Happiness days - why happyness is important || Brickley, Dan: On the internet, no-one knows. [09:25:36] MrDys | mjg__-- [09:25:37] zoia | anarchivist: anarchivist : [09:25:37] mikeybe | ejk++ [09:25:41] MikeTaylor | Oh, great -- give away the ending, why don't you? [09:25:42] kat3 | we're all going to die? [09:25:43] abarrera | they died defending z39.50 [09:25:43] anarchivist | is this about a losing battle with z39.50? [09:25:44] jbrinley | bah, he ruined it for me [09:25:44] mbklein | Of course they did. They're 2300 years old. [09:25:45] robcaSSon | mjg_++ [09:25:48] MikeTaylor | I don't likw where this analogy is heading. [09:25:53] edsu | who's the enemy? [09:25:56] zoia | fak3r: fak3r : , , , , , "cwQaxxQq3190", , , , , [09:25:57] anarchivist | MikeTaylor++ [09:25:58] zoia | pmurray: Me buckos, Look, here's what I be sayin'... nosrsly, I don't mean to be a dick, but me excuse our this day be "HMOs", eh? ... in bed. [09:25:59] rsinger | abarrera++ [09:25:59] steambadger | Library Spartans! [09:26:01] fak3r | they were fighting over standards [09:26:01] ---| ---> mib_71zb4d10 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4468be03e1b1acdc] has joined #code4lib [09:26:06] ejk | death-- [09:26:08] jbrinley | "most" [09:26:10] mikeybe | did he say "probably" [09:26:11] jfereira | Whew [09:26:13] ---| User: *** mib_71zb4d10 is now known as royt [09:26:13] edsu | fak3r++ [09:26:17] BillDueber | Just like the movie [09:26:18] kat3 | not gonna lie, some will perish [09:26:18] pmurray | zoia++ # Finally, I get some satisfaction. [09:26:20] zoia | pmurray: have you tried encoding in wtf-8? [09:26:25] * royt offers up jbrinley for sacrifice [09:26:26] * ecorrado will live for ever [09:26:34] lbjay | @ana some will perish [09:26:36] zoia | lbjay: Well! Im poserish [09:26:38] * dchud 's gonna learn how to FLY [09:26:40] BillDueber | ecorrado: is gonna learn how to fly (high!) [09:26:45] mjg_ | Scandinavians++ # \m/ [09:26:45] pmurray | zoia-- # Sassing me for giving it karma points [09:26:45] ecorrado | live for ever through code! [09:26:48] jbrinley | @insult royt [09:26:49] zoia | royt: You are nothing but a hugger-muggered accumulation of goatish rat. [09:26:50] fak3r | just need to find someone to keep the domain alive, then yeah, live forever [09:26:52] dchud | BillDueber++ [09:26:57] ---| ---> kvnglbrtsn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f4c07b6c9fd8a937] has joined #code4lib [09:27:00] MikeTaylor | @insult jbrinley [09:27:01] zoia | jbrinley: You are nothing but a plume-plucked mound of contemptible Sun. [09:27:03] fak3r | feelings get hurt [09:27:03] edsu | rsinger++ # for nominating seb [09:27:04] jfereira | hackers_attracted_to_libraries++ [09:27:09] mikeybe | I want him to say "who is your daddy and what does he do" [09:27:11] rsinger | edsu: i told you [09:27:17] mbklein | You want authorized subject headings?! YOU CAN'T HANDLE AUTHORIZED SUBJECT HEADINGS!!! [09:27:19] ---| ---> smkiewel [i=46a41963@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3860a5746a42d828] has joined #code4lib [09:27:26] fak3r | reminder he's the keynote speaker [09:27:33] MikeTaylor | mklein++ [09:27:37] fak3r | whippersnapper++ [09:27:37] abarrera | mikeybe++ [09:27:38] robcaSSon | rsinger++ # he was my vote too [09:27:38] mjg_ | whippersnapper_technology++ [09:27:39] BigD | does this mean i get a sword? [09:27:40] pmurray | @kgs [insult zoia] [09:27:41] zoia | pmurray: nosrsly, zoia: You are nothing but a hacked-up accumulation of antique stomach-bile. [09:27:52] bjy | mikeybe++ [09:27:54] anarchivist | @ana whippersnapper technology [09:27:55] BillDueber | google's doing a better job than anyone else right now [09:27:57] zoia | anarchivist: Happy! Polite wrencher pongs [09:27:58] kgs | snap! [09:28:04] fak3r | no commute, just look it up online [09:28:10] edsu | and do what? [09:28:10] ---| ---> erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d34c47ce183cd9d] has joined #code4lib [09:28:12] MikeTaylor | @quote add "Do we really want to leave it up to Google to decide when and how to digitise our heritage? -- Sebastian Hammer" [09:28:13] fak3r | kgs: oh no he didn't [09:28:13] zoia | MikeTaylor: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:28:19] pmurray | @kgs [embed [insult zoia]] [09:28:20] royt | he seems to like our money well enough ;-) [09:28:20] zoia | pmurray: nosrsly, zoia: You are nothing but a clouted thimbleful of wretched carpet. ... in bed. [09:28:31] lbjay | BigD: no swords. we all get issued those pocket knives with the scary hooks [09:28:32] abarrera | so he's advocating everyone storming oclc without pants? [09:28:33] robcaSSon | royt++ # heh [09:28:35] mbklein | kgs++ for the blogporn [09:28:35] mjg_ | royt: oooh, you have money? [09:28:37] kgs | well royt... everyone likes your *money* ;) [09:28:44] kgs | money++ [09:28:46] fak3r | money++ [09:28:52] rsinger | @quote search lamborghini [09:28:55] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #1167: " royt was just making excuses about why..." [09:29:00] jbrinley | monkeys++ [09:29:00] mjg_ | filthy luker. er lucre. [09:29:02] rsinger | @quote get 1167 [09:29:02] zoia | rsinger: Quote #1167: " royt was just making excuses about why oclc needs so much money - he has to send his kids to private school and tune his lamborghini" (added by rsinger at 10:42 AM, February 07, 2008) [09:29:04] ecorrado | @insult cardigan [09:29:04] zoia | cardigan: You are nothing but an ill-borne accumulation of fly-bitten manuals. [09:29:05] edsu | @quote add Do we really want to leave it up to Google to decide when and how to digitise our heritage? [09:29:05] anarchivist | @quote get 1167 [09:29:06] zoia | edsu: The operation succeeded. Quote #1738 added. [09:29:07] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1167: " royt was just making excuses about why oclc needs so much money - he has to send his kids to private school and tune his lamborghini" (added by rsinger at 10:42 AM, February 07, 2008) [09:29:19] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-810ca816b2e16d88] has joined #code4lib [09:29:19] fak3r | tuning_lamborghini++ [09:29:20] abarrera | rsinger++ [09:29:21] ---| <<-- was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:29:26] BigD | and the crowd falls upon royt with scary hooky knives [09:29:28] ---| ---> jphipps [i=root@208.113.196.10] has joined #code4lib [09:29:37] ---| <--- kvnglbrtsn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f4c07b6c9fd8a937] has left #code4lib () [09:29:40] fak3r | ...or fighting over standards [09:29:45] royt | i wish [09:29:55] fak3r | google == train [09:29:58] BigD | and clean his fingernails [09:29:58] BigD | ;) [09:30:00] mjg_ | @quote search democracy [09:30:01] fak3r | internet != big truck [09:30:03] zoia | mjg_: 4 found: #1503: " There never was a democracy yet...", #1540: " Democracy is two wolves and a lamb...", #727: " Democracy is the recurrent...", and #733: " Democracy encourages the majority..." [09:30:07] * edsu is not convinced google and colc are "enemies" [09:30:12] mbklein | The BPL Digital Collection is proud to present...A Monkey Riding a Goat: http://free-to-all.digital.bpl.org.s3.amazonaws.com/streams/bpldc:08_06_000655/08_06_000655-500.jpg [09:30:17] fak3r | edsu++ [09:30:17] ---| ---> jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f1e204f28f255536] has joined #code4lib [09:30:20] * edsu is gulllible tho [09:30:25] edsu | gullllible [09:30:25] anarchivist | mbklein++ [09:30:29] ---| <<-- kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c8e8570902ba2d57] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:30:30] mjg_ | @quote get 1503 [09:30:30] zoia mjg_: Quote #1503: " There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide" (added by lbjay at 10:40 AM, September 10, 2008) [09:30:33] ---| <<-- ethomsen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-27fefae966bf30fa] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:30:33] BillDueber | Library democracy == 122 employees comprising 145 committees. [09:30:33] wickr | mbklein: monkey on the lamb was better [09:30:41] mbklein | JohnAdams++ [09:30:42] fak3r | he left his gram in the dust? [09:30:46] ---| ---> was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has joined #code4lib [09:30:46] BigD | edsu: gullllible isn't in the dictionary. little known fact. [09:30:47] mjg_ | BillDueber++ # damn. [09:30:49] anarchivist | mbklein: did that happen on the roof of the warwick bar [09:30:50] fak3r | chipinmybrain++ [09:30:55] rosy1280 | chips_in_brain++ [09:30:58] anarchivist | naragansett++ [09:30:58] BigD | i will be the FIRST with a chip in my brain! [09:31:03] robcaSSon | @ana naragansett [09:31:03] zoia | robcaSSon: Stagnant are [09:31:08] edsu | BigD: sorry i meant gulllllllllllible [09:31:09] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3596212608de064e] has joined #code4lib [09:31:12] MrDys | @hussein naragansett [09:31:13] zoia | MrDys: Rat sane naughtiness [09:31:17] mjg_ | I was gulled on the boardwalk once. God damn flying rats. [09:31:17] anarchivist | BigD: you already have a chip in your brain [09:31:21] anarchivist | BigD: it's a dorito [09:31:22] fak3r | chip in brain, usb plug on the back of my neck [09:31:26] robcaSSon | MrDys++ hussein++ [09:31:26] Scurvy | democracy = 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding what is for dinner. [09:31:26] steambadger | I think I have a dorito stuck in my brain right now. [09:31:32] rosy1280 | its all about the benjamins [09:31:33] edsu | lbjay: applied your patch [09:31:36] abarrera | anarchivist: a potato chip maybe [09:31:40] BigD | fak3r: fw800 [09:31:42] rsinger | dorito_in_the_brain++ [09:31:44] mbklein | anarchivist: No, that was the two chimps on a tricycle: http://free-to-all.digital.bpl.org.s3.amazonaws.com/streams/bpldc:08_06_000601/08_06_000601-500.jpg [09:31:54] fak3r | BigD: faster transfer [09:31:55] mbklein | I <3 the BPL photo collection [09:31:59] ejk | Woah, I know kung fu [09:32:02] jtgorman | mjg_: i've been "gulled" twice. And attacked in the wilderness by a song bird for a turkey sandwich [09:32:03] akorphan | dublin+- [09:32:06] edsu | are there even any books in dublin? [09:32:10] mbklein | @hussein Sebastian Hammer [09:32:11] jtgorman | mjg_: the song bird was hard to live down [09:32:11] zoia | mbklein: I am brashiest humaneness [09:32:11] mib_xxmepy6r | library = the sweetest berry of all [09:32:14] highermath_c4 | I prefer my chip on my shoulder [09:32:16] BigD | ejk++ [09:32:17] edsu | oclc =~ crap library [09:32:19] mjg_ | jtgorman: for the right turkey sandwich, I might attack you too. [09:32:23] anarchivist | BPL++ [09:32:27] was | kcoyle++ [09:32:32] mikeybe | brewster++ [09:32:36] fak3r | he is scanning books, and BHL are making them available! [09:32:36] jtgorman | mjg_: it was quite good. [09:32:42] lbjay | edsu: rock on [09:32:43] steambadger | I can tell the difference between Nacho Cheese and Cool Ranch just by which neural paths the chip activates. [09:32:44] mjg_ | I'm going out screaming. [09:32:45] akorphan | is kcoyle here? She seems like the type of person I should meet. [09:32:48] ecorrado | going_quietly-- [09:32:51] BigD | nerd martyrs [09:33:01] anarchivist | mjg_++ [09:33:03] mjg_ | Online Crap Library Center? [09:33:09] fak3r | this is what we do at mobot, it's why I'm here [09:33:10] lbjay | huh, the markers are still fuxored [09:33:13] mbklein | mjg_: Isn't that how you leave work EVERY DAY? [09:33:15] cschx | librarian_martyr_complex-- [09:33:17] fak3r | transformers++ [09:33:22] rsinger | voltron++ [09:33:23] edsu | lbjay: do i need the an api key? [09:33:24] BillDueber | Isn't the voltron? [09:33:27] mjg_ | royt's official title is "crapmeister general" [09:33:28] mikeybe | superrobots++ [09:33:30] dchud | mjg_: we <3 our major sponsors [09:33:31] robcaSSon | lion_voltron++ [09:33:34] bjy | voltron++ [09:33:36] ejk | that's not transformer I've ever seen [09:33:39] rsinger | car_voltron-- [09:33:40] lbjay | edsu: it's in there [09:33:41] robcaSSon | car_voltron-- [09:33:42] abarrera | it is [09:33:42] ejk | s/not/no [09:33:47] BillDueber | lion_voltron-- vehicle_voltron++ [09:33:48] robcaSSon | rsinger: my brother [09:33:48] rsinger | robcaSSon++ [09:33:49] akorphan | that_third_voltron_that_didn't_have_a_cartoon++ [09:33:49] ---| ---> drq [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a9a4618c06b372af] has joined #code4lib [09:33:51] mbklein | @ana voltron the librarian [09:33:54] zoia | mbklein: Bear thrill innovator [09:33:54] ---| <<-- cliff_ [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has quit () [09:33:55] lbjay | edsu: in the url that pulls the map js [09:34:00] ---| ---> cliff` [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:34:02] mjg_ | dchud: notice that "<3" is shaped like a blade [09:34:12] akorphan | or a heart? [09:34:13] BigD | fireball! wait, wrong meme... [09:34:16] fak3r | consortium of libraries that want to work together? that's BHL - cultural heritage? [09:34:18] mbklein | mjg_: You romantic, you. [09:34:24] akorphan | or less than three? [09:34:26] mjg_ | "Thanks for your money! *STAB*" [09:34:27] jtgorman | Does endnote have a web interface like Refworks or is it only the client? [09:34:29] rsinger | robcaSSon: have you seen the robot chicken with the car voltron? [09:34:30] ---| <<-- ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1eba6ff3f5522913] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:34:31] ---| <<-- drq [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a9a4618c06b372af] has quit (Client Quit) [09:34:40] dchud | mjg_: to me it looks like i'm about to be very sad about the double-scoop ice cream cone that's falling over [09:34:43] akorphan | or a cookie? [09:34:45] robcaSSon | rsinger: no, but i'll be looking for it now [09:34:47] ---| ---> mib_m00z086k [i=46a4195c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d59b03520cb8479] has joined #code4lib [09:34:52] ecorrado | @insult standardds [09:34:52] zoia | standardds: You are nothing but a fen-sucked ooze of mammering vomit. [09:34:57] BigD | dchud++ [09:34:57] mjg_ | dchud: :( [09:35:01] BillDueber | "most open APIs are a loyalty scheme" [09:35:05] ---| User: *** mib_m00z086k is now known as fak3r_ [09:35:07] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:35:11] mjg_ | shammer++ [09:35:14] mbklein | "Honey, ever notice that this valentine you gave me is shaped like a blade?" [09:35:16] BigD | it was a cash register [09:35:18] dchud | well said [09:35:20] fak3r_ | irssi is lagging out, back in mibbit [09:35:21] ejk | @ana errant bell [09:35:22] zoia | ejk: Barrel lent [09:35:24] jrochkind100 | true [09:35:25] abarrera | BigD++ [09:35:30] ---| <<-- rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-47ad2f890d568b42] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:35:41] royt | oh, and closed systems are better? [09:35:41] fak3r_ | lag on irssi is now at 187...bad [09:35:46] royt | WTF? [09:35:51] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("leaving") [09:35:52] mbklein | @quote add Most so-called open APIs are loyalty schemes rather than interoperability devices [09:35:53] zoia | mbklein: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:35:53] mjg_ | @quote add Most open APIs are loyaly schemes rather than interoperability devices [09:35:55] zoia | mjg_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:35:56] BigD | it's a heart with a gap in it, which fails from a hydraulic perspective [09:35:57] ---| ---> kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c581bc0d6d521ce4] has joined #code4lib [09:35:57] jrochkind100 | no, standard APIs are better, obviously. [09:35:58] dchud | royt: i don't think that's what he's saying [09:36:00] jfereira | dog in a bowling alley [09:36:04] lbjay | dog in a bowling alley! [09:36:05] mjg_ | mbklein++ [09:36:10] * royt waits for it then [09:36:22] anarchivist_ | @ana dog in a bowling alley [09:36:23] pmurray | @quote add Most so-called open APIs are loyalty schemes rather than interoperability devices [09:36:23] zoia | anarchivist_: Good! Wallying in able [09:36:25] akorphan | royt: I think he means that -even- open APIs are loyalty schemes. [09:36:25] zoia | pmurray: The operation succeeded. Quote #1739 added. [09:36:27] MikeTaylor | Roy, I rather think Seb's point is that using an open protocol is better than mkaing available an API to a proprietary one. [09:36:30] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:36:35] jtgorman | guess it does endnote web [09:36:36] ---| User: *** anarchivist_ is now known as anarchivist [09:36:44] Scurvy | oss != nda [09:36:45] anarchivist | @quote random [09:36:46] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1568: " There is so much coupling on display that it should be given an X rating." (added by edsu at 01:10 PM, October 22, 2008) [09:36:50] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-947530e7a4beaa73] has joined #code4lib [09:37:04] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [09:37:09] pmurray | @sandp [09:37:12] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:37:14] royt | isn't that what SRU is? [09:37:20] pmurray | ...I might have to look at that one. [09:37:22] ecorrado | @insult meetings [09:37:23] zoia | meetings: You are nothing but a fool-born petrification of elf-skinned gizzards. [09:37:24] jrochkind100 | I still think that good standardization only comes when you START by doing your own thing, and then discover best practices, and then standardize THEM. [09:37:25] ---| ---> rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-920f3232e762aa09] has joined #code4lib [09:37:27] fak3r_ | OSS++ [09:37:27] fak3r_ | api != oss [09:37:27] fak3r_ | pmurray++ [09:37:30] BigD | i wonder if sebastion would adopt me: DeclanHammer! [09:37:30] fak3r_ | I need to talk to this guy later and tell him about BHL - library consortium, book scanning via the IA, working with brewster, etc. [09:37:33] Scurvy | death by a 1000 standardizations [09:37:35] MikeTaylor | SRU is a protocol. [09:37:39] MikeTaylor | ZOOM is an API that implements it. [09:37:41] lbjay | @ana the little deaths [09:37:43] zoia | lbjay: Hated still teeth [09:37:47] jrochkind100 | Declan Hammer sounds like a Norweigan superhero. [09:37:56] mjg_ | Man, this talk could generate a dozen or more quotations. [09:37:58] MikeTaylor | But if you want to do SRU, ZOOm is only one of the many options you have, You're not locked in. [09:37:59] ejk | @rate opensource APIs [09:38:04] zoia | ejk: opensource: 9.5; APIs: 1.7. APIs sucks! opensource rocks! [09:38:06] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Client Quit) [09:38:06] fak3r_ | paying_fees-- [09:38:09] abarrera | jrochkind100: or a 70s porn star [09:38:12] ---| ---> gugek [n=gugek@w-dhcp00592.wireless.unc.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:38:20] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:38:23] royt | MikeTaylor: your proprietary API? [09:38:31] ecorrado | live forever via ree data! [09:38:36] dchud | i'm really enjoying this talk. [09:38:38] ecorrado | lag-- [09:38:39] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-557eec3d1da3e02c] has joined #code4lib [09:38:43] akorphan | freely_contributed_data_cooption-- [09:38:47] jbrinley | @ana ree data [09:38:48] dlovins | dchud: I love this guy [09:38:49] zoia | jbrinley: Ate dear [09:38:53] anarchivist | lag-- [09:38:56] MikeTaylor | No, ZOOM is not proprietatry -- the API specs. are freely available at http://zoom.z3950.org/, along with many free implementations. [09:38:57] akorphan | cooption? coopting? [09:38:59] anarchivist | i blame dchud [09:39:00] mjg_ | shammer++ # or whatever his username is [09:39:00] steambadger | Mibbit is flashing me an advertisement for Brain Aneurysms. [09:39:04] anarchivist | and his youtube uploading [09:39:19] mbklein | @quote search API [09:39:21] royt | still don't see why a particular implementation of an API is a loyalty scheme in one instance and not in another [09:39:23] zoia | mbklein: 12 found: #1291: "< mjgiarlo> ZeroConfMetaSearchunAPI in the Hour...", #1551: "< mjgiarlo> I'm too scared to type H U S S E I...", #1688: " Your Website is Your API", #1739: " Most so-called open APIs are...", #221: " re: unapi, am i the only one who finds...", #241: "< eby> whenever i'm in here it's a bunch of...", #374: " not another maud'dib...the last guy...", #481: "< (1 more message) [09:39:23] anarchivist | zoom++ [09:39:23] ---| <<-- caroldotou [n=carol@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:39:25] cschx | http://www.arl.org/news/pr/oclc-policy-20feb09.shtml [09:39:26] dlovins | mchammer? [09:39:28] mbklein | @more [09:39:29] zoia | mbklein: dbs> now that i have a full week of Sirsi API...", #693: " Looking thru the Windows API is like a...", #760: " if you mix XQuery with server based...", #952: " Praising companies for providing...", and #963: " Praising companies for providing..." [09:39:31] ---| <<-- cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d9b834efe037a8eb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:39:31] ---| <<-- erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d34c47ce183cd9d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:39:35] mbklein | @quote add Most so-called open APIs are loyalty schemes rather than interoperability devices [09:39:35] * lbjay tapes a "push me" sign to his back [09:39:36] zoia | mbklein: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:39:37] anarchivist | all i wanna do a zoom zoom zoom [09:39:42] MikeTaylor | But the point is that if you don't like ZOOM, for whatever reason, there are still lots of other ways for you to interoperate with SRU-based servers [09:39:48] ---| ---> caroldotou [n=carol@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:39:51] mbklein | @quote add Most so-called open APIs are loyalty schemes rather than interoperability devices [09:39:52] highermath_c4 | steambadger: did you buy any? [09:39:52] dchud | anarchivist: wait what did i do? [09:39:52] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. Quote #1740 added. [09:39:57] LibraryThingT | There are so few SRU-based servers. [09:39:59] robcaSSon | royt: and while he's only mentioned oclc by name, i'm thinking more about ex-libris products, etc [09:40:08] rsinger | as i mentioned yesterday [09:40:17] MikeTaylor | Roy, an API is a loyalty scheme if it is a way to use a protocol that is otherwise not available to you. [09:40:18] mjg_ | Hammer is 2 legit 2 quit. [09:40:22] jrochkind100 | how much does a brain aneurysm cost these days? If the price is right, i might be interested. [09:40:24] steambadger | No. I added one to my wish list, though. [09:40:31] ---| <<-- epoz [i=46a41911@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e7753bb807566bd8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:40:42] dchud | oh. yeah sorry about that. [09:40:42] mbklein | This is the best slide ever [09:40:43] edsu | awesome [09:40:49] MrDys | mjg_: hey, hey. [09:40:53] dchud | but this video is AWESOME [09:40:57] kgs | Sebastian++ [09:41:00] jrochkind100 | MikeTaylor: I see it different what he's saying. An API is a loyalty scheme if it's a custom API for a particular licensed software, so writing software to that API locks you into using THAT software. [09:41:03] dchud | almost as awesome as this slide [09:41:11] jrochkind100 | MikeTaylor: Not so much about the services behind the API, but about the API itself. [09:41:16] fak3r_ | dchud: yes, we need to work together more, share code, move forward together [09:41:17] fak3r_ | system_vendors-- [09:41:17] ---| User: *** fak3r_ is now known as fak3r [09:41:17] fak3r | standards are a mess, just 'curl' the file, run some sed/awk on it [09:41:17] fak3r | "If they're broken then they need to be fixed" <- brilliant [09:41:18] mjg_ | Hammer is turnin' this mutha out. [09:41:19] MikeTaylor | jrochkind100: also true. [09:41:23] robcaSSon | jrochkind++ [09:41:28] fak3r | IFC == IRC? [09:41:31] mbklein | Why can't I @quote add an entire slide? :) [09:41:32] ---| <<-- kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c581bc0d6d521ce4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:41:34] highermath_c4 | niso -- [09:41:39] jrochkind100 | "If they're broken, they need to be fixed" -> See also RDA. [09:41:42] anarchivist | rfc++ [09:41:43] * mjg_ administers his traditional dead_horse beatings. [09:41:43] edsu | please hammer don't hurt 'em [09:41:48] mbklein | vendors_we_don't_like++ [09:41:48] fak3r | mjg_: please Hammer, don't hurt them! [09:41:53] mbklein | Wait. [09:41:54] bjy | jrochkind100++ [09:41:55] mbklein | What? [09:42:00] edsu | s/don't// [09:42:02] mib_xxmepy6r | it's hammer time [09:42:08] MrDys | mjg_: stop it, you're making me flash back to the video for that crappy Addams Family song that he did [09:42:09] anarchivist | mjg_-- [09:42:14] abarrera | mchammer_references-- [09:42:14] anarchivist | err [09:42:14] anarchivist | mjg_++ [09:42:15] anarchivist | mjg_++ [09:42:16] dlovins | mc_hammer++ [09:42:23] mjg_ | MrDys: gaaaaaaaaah! [09:42:26] robcaSSon | abarrera++ [09:42:32] lbjay | shammer++ [09:42:32] fak3r | edsu++ [09:42:32] jrochkind100 | i believe the deep trouble. [09:42:33] dlovins | standing ovation !! [09:42:38] jrochkind100 | that was a good talk. [09:42:42] highermath_c4 | damn right [09:42:45] royt | "the mandate of the keynote speaker" [09:42:47] mjg_ | Gotta say, I am glad he's ditched the parachute pants. [09:42:48] abarrera | mjg_: no more references unless you go back on stage in hammer pants [09:42:52] mbklein | abarrera: At least mjg_ didn't wear his parachute pants. [09:43:06] akorphan | I called it! [09:43:11] mjg_ | Hammer's t-shirt size is "EXTRA AWESOME" [09:43:24] kat3 | abarrera: gold ones [09:43:27] MikeTaylor | I downloaded the RDA table of contents. It was 80 pages long, I didn't download the whole spec. [09:43:32] ---| <<-- mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3446e00b763a4635] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:43:33] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-947530e7a4beaa73] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:43:39] Scurvy | i like how he rolls up his sleeves when he asks for questions. [09:43:45] mbklein | More appropriately, what's the t-shirt's Sebastian size? [09:43:48] -!-| Irssi: #code4lib: Total of 114 nicks 0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 114 normal [09:43:52] ejk | wiki wiki wild wild web [09:43:54] ---| <--- caroldotou [n=carol@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [09:43:59] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [09:44:02] mbklein | Is Sebastian Hammer going to become our own Chuck Norris? [09:44:06] mjg_ | Hammer's fists are so fearsome that his sleeves roll themselves up. [09:44:09] abarrera | mjg_: BigD will be one of your background dancers [09:44:18] mjg_ | abarrera++ [09:44:19] jtgorman | mjg++ [09:44:23] ---| <<-- cliff` [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:44:29] mbklein | abarrera: Shortest. Dance. Ever. [09:44:30] * pmurray can't wait to watch the recording of this based on the IRC reaction! 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[09:45:04] jrochkind100 | world wild web++ [09:45:07] robcaSSon | @ana sebastien hammer's action jeans [09:45:08] zoia | robcaSSon: Maintenance abhors majesties [09:45:11] mbklein | I wonder if there's any way to sync the timecode in the video with the IRC logs. [09:45:17] dchud_ | librarywebchic++ [09:45:19] dchud_ | ejlynema++ [09:45:22] mjg_ | zoia++ [09:45:24] akorphan | ejlynema++ [09:45:26] royt | ejlynema++ [09:45:29] mbklein | ejlynema++ [09:45:29] lbjay | great question [09:45:30] royt | great question [09:45:33] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1ae74064e8831ac2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:45:33] ---| <<-- fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-607392c7f42df1a7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:45:33] ---| <<-- MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-98efbee028eeccdb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:45:35] mbklein | @karma ejlynema [09:45:36] zoia | mbklein: Karma for "ejlynema" has been increased 58 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 56. [09:45:39] ---| ---> dbs_ [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [09:45:51] mbklein Aagh! royt and lbjay have melded! [09:45:54] ---| ---> mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7ca56588ecf7cd0b] has joined #code4lib [09:45:57] ---| <<-- dbs_ [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit (Client Quit) [09:46:02] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:46:05] akorphan | I think that the standards issue falls under the metacrap umbrella [09:46:05] anarchivist_ | mbklein: don't gross me out [09:46:07] * rsinger sighs. [09:46:09] ---| User: *** anarchivist_ is now known as anarchivist [09:46:10] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:46:12] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b8950954e78f28c0] has joined #code4lib [09:46:13] mjg_ | mbklein: VENDORTRON [09:46:15] jrochkind100 | all vendors are the same to me anyway. [09:46:17] akorphan | vendors have a vested interest in themselves and write APIs to match. [09:46:17] decasm_nomad | roybjay [09:46:20] jrochkind100 | KIDDING. [09:46:24] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:46:26] jtgorman | still doing better than the keynote yesterday form what I can tell of irc [09:46:40] mbklein | It works for EXLC [09:46:50] robcaSSon | jtgorman: yesterday's was good, just connectivity problems [09:47:04] akorphan | If we push for standardization, the "penalty" to noncompliant parties must be heavy enough that it is detrimental to them and they cave. [09:47:22] ---| ---> jmspargu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-69ce99a5958a5468] has joined #code4lib [09:47:25] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-12cbc0f759d43276] has joined #code4lib [09:47:32] dlovins | ejlynema++ [09:47:35] lbjay | mjg_++ # vendortron [09:47:37] rsinger | akorphan: that being said --- DON'T MAKE PEOPLE IMPLEMENT STANDARDS LIKE NCIP [09:47:44] dchud_ | great talk! [09:47:45] jtgorman | robcaSSon: ah, some folks seemed a bit miffed/feathers ruffled [09:47:45] lbjay | do i still get a pocket knife? [09:48:12] royt | kgs++ # for taping [09:48:13] mjg_ | akorphan: if libraries are bold enough to stop giving them money. why agree to a contract if the product doesn't meet your needs (standardwise)? [09:48:25] akorphan | so the solution is cultural. [09:48:35] akorphan | (^mjg_) [09:48:43] BigD | eat the mic [09:48:52] rsinger | opa! [09:48:54] rsinger | oh wait [09:49:01] mjg_ | culture-- [09:49:09] dchud_ | a code4lib.org question: anders gave me his slides yesterday but i'm not sure where to upload them so i can link them from the schedule [09:49:09] royt | rsinger: pass the ouzo [09:49:09] dchud_ | we don't have distinct nodes for each talk yet do we? [09:49:14] lbjay | Olé [09:49:15] mjg_ | rsinger++ [09:49:16] kgs | royt a perfect job for me. I do the same small task 20 times for 3 days until I get it right. then I go home ;) [09:49:22] royt | dchud: send them to me [09:49:28] jrochkind100 | because it meets other needs. We have lots and lots of needs, and few options. [09:49:32] mjg_ | kgs++ [09:49:36] dchud_ | royt: ok thanks [09:49:37] ecorrado | has any vendor really tried to ncip... the efforts i've seen where only designed to implement barely enough to ineract with one or two specific systems [09:49:39] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e88ffe42fc269d67] has joined #code4lib [09:49:40] rosy1280 | duke_libraries++ [09:49:41] jtgorman | all the various library websites on how do to the various endnote/refworks direct web exports/imports makes it tricky finding actual web documentation [09:49:46] rosy1280 | duke_basketball-- [09:49:47] wickr | dchud_: you can add them as an attachment to the page [09:49:48] * jtgorman goes to send some more emails [09:49:49] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Code4Lib Logo | code4lib [09:49:49] mbklein | royt: 16-year-old single malt ouzo? [09:49:50] dchud_ | kgs: has anybody said the phrase "signed releases" to you yet this week? [09:50:01] mjg_ | Who developed NCIP? [09:50:03] jrochkind100 | ncip is too hard to implement. Part of a succesful standard is making it easy to implement. [09:50:04] dchud_ | kgs: or have you said it to anyone else? [09:50:09] BillDueber | jtgorman: If you find anyting about endnote direct export, ping me. I want to know. [09:50:22] mbklein | jrochkind100++ [09:50:29] wickr | royt++ # for the slide handling [09:50:31] khatar | mjg_, 3M as i know [09:50:34] ---| <<-- mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7ca56588ecf7cd0b] has quit (Client Quit) [09:50:48] robcaSSon | koha and evergreen share some ncip stuff, correct? [09:50:48] rsinger | khatar: no, that was sip3 [09:50:49] edsu | committee at iso or niso? [09:50:51] khatar | openNCIP.org by liblime [09:50:53] mbklein | jrochkind100: EAD for example [09:50:57] ---| ---> fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-09337111d04eec0c] has joined #code4lib [09:51:01] royt | dchud_ wait, i think his are already there [09:51:09] khatar | implements the sip part [09:51:12] royt | mjg_ NISO, I believe [09:51:18] ---| ---> ruest [i=46a41940@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aa0e1c33d15cfff3] has joined #code4lib [09:51:22] khatar | rgok, thx for correct me [09:51:30] anarchivist | mbklein++ [09:51:34] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ae8c86595f34bfbc] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:51:34] ---| <<-- asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-01ed7ce4896e6ff8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:51:42] mjg_ | Was it developed in a vacuum? I'm just wondering who implemented as a clue for who might be using. [09:51:51] BigD | man, i need a diet coke [09:51:57] ecorrado | is the phrase signed releases needed from the podium? [09:52:00] rsinger | it was a NISO standard [09:52:03] jrochkind100 | mbklein: True, although I'm no fan of EAD either. easy to implement is necceary but not sufficient for a good standard. But I guess EAD is better than ncip. [09:52:06] robcaSSon | s/coke/pill/ [09:52:09] rsinger | mjg_: that is all that needs to be said [09:52:12] robcaSSon | BigD: your son is selling them [09:52:18] royt | dchud_ my bad, the slides aren't there yet [09:52:18] khatar | NISO-- ; you must pay to see the standrad [09:52:25] Scurvy | OLE meeting was painful [09:52:35] ---| <<-- escowles [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-560f6bc55a567075] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:52:36] chickmarkley | all stanards will be incomplete without reference implementation [09:52:37] ---| ---> mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9948e9d27ab3fff2] has joined #code4lib [09:52:39] mjg_ | rsinger: yikes. [09:52:52] BillDueber | ALA-- ; you have to pay to see the RDA standard [09:52:55] rsinger | mjg_: i mean, seriously [09:53:03] ---| <<-- fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-09337111d04eec0c] has quit (Client Quit) [09:53:06] pmurray | Pay to see a NISO standard? [09:53:14] akorphan | California-- [09:53:15] abarrera | BigD: robcaSSon has them hidden under our table [09:53:17] rsinger | mjg_: it's a society whose sole purpose is to overengineer for every edge case [09:53:20] pmurray | I don't think so -- I thought they were all openly published on the 'net. [09:53:24] ---| ---> liza_ [i=root@66.33.213.26] has joined #code4lib [09:53:26] akorphan | where some building codes are copyrighted and not freely available [09:53:32] ---| User: *** liza_ is now known as liza31337 [09:53:35] ---| <<-- mouwd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-31245eb7fd4105cf] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:53:42] BigD | abarrera: i'm not falling for that. again. [09:53:49] ---| ---> escowles [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-56421ae72e4298fb] has joined #code4lib [09:53:52] rsinger | is it ISO rather than NISO? [09:53:54] pmurray | ALA-- # For plans to having to see the RDA standard. [09:54:00] mjg_ | rsinger: I will fail, but I'd like to get the institutional identifiers group moving towards linked data. Not sure if it fits, but we're still early in the process. Sounds like it will be a spectacular failure. [09:54:00] robcaSSon | BigD++ # lol [09:54:01] ---| <--- Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #code4lib () [09:54:02] BigD | akorphan: california++ [09:54:06] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-17c2fab5fb0584bf] has joined #code4lib [09:54:06] pmurray | rsinger: Yeah, most ISO standards to you have to pay for. [09:54:07] dchud_ | royt: ok, i'll get 'em to you. thx! [09:54:07] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [09:54:25] akorphan | california_building_codes_being_copyrighted_and_not_freely_available-- [09:54:30] BillDueber | mjg_: Fight the good fight. Even if you fail. And then die. With no pants. [09:54:31] abarrera | BigD++ # not falling for a banana in the tailpipe either? [09:54:37] kgs | dchud no... but if you want miker_'s autograph he's in the room! [09:54:39] mjg_ | BillDueber++ [09:54:43] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3ffd5127009b7b9d] has joined #code4lib [09:54:47] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-557eec3d1da3e02c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:54:50] wickr | abarrera++ [09:54:53] ---| <--- ruest [i=46a41940@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aa0e1c33d15cfff3] has left #code4lib () [09:54:57] jrochkind100 | the hammer didn't promise you painlessness. [09:55:01] mjg_ | I was never asked about my dreams :( [09:55:08] rsinger | mjg_: i suppose if the scope remains small, it might work [09:55:10] ---| ---> cliff_ [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:55:11] mjg_ | (Mostly they're about robots and cured pork.) [09:55:12] akorphan | jrochkind100: Please, Hammer, don't hurt 'em. [09:55:18] ---| ---> ruest [n=ruest@wsip-70-164-25-64.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:55:19] rsinger | mjg_: but i've never seen one try to remain small [09:55:20] jrochkind100 | Most of my library doesn't have any dreams. [09:55:28] dchud_ | kgs: i have better than an autograph, i have his code. but, still, i worry about having signed releases. i'm a worrier. [09:55:35] ---| <<-- mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-18deca3b00eb8012] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:55:37] anarchivist | @quote add < jrochkind100> the hammer didn't promise you painlessness. [09:55:38] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1741 added. [09:55:38] mjg_ | rsinger: small and dumb is my niche. [09:55:40] ---| <--- dhanu [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cca8d2f155a52fe6] has left #code4lib () [09:55:58] * BillDueber is out of the loop re: signed releases. What's up with that? [09:56:03] mjg_ | omgsoabpmolebbq! [09:56:06] ---| ---> codemonkey [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-42f12f097cf62330] has joined #code4lib [09:56:13] kgs | ba-da-bump [09:56:16] jtgorman | BillDueber: I'm emailing a few people now, i don't have time to research it too much (I'm already getting close to the amount of hours I should be working on this project), then I'm dumping some of the headers of various ebsco etc [09:56:21] BigD | mmm, bbq [09:56:27] * jtgorman wonders if that could be considered "reverse engineering" [09:56:32] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:56:35] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c492d347a8884213] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:56:35] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1110dbe8cf45ea19] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:56:36] * anarchivist had the greatest epiphany this week [09:56:38] JodiS | ARL++ [09:56:48] anarchivist | i don't give a shit about web 2.0 but i love infrastructure [09:56:49] akorphan | anarchivist: Was it about barbecue? [09:56:54] anarchivist | akorphan++ [09:56:55] jrochkind100 | anarchivist: gonna tell us what it was? [09:56:56] MrDys | anarchivist: weirdo [09:56:57] ---| ---> ccatalfo [i=46a4197e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-078a74a5fc98ef99] has joined #code4lib [09:57:04] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db16d04ffbc21f79] has joined #code4lib [09:57:10] anarchivist | MrDys: in the archives community i'm being sold as some big web 2.0 advocate [09:57:19] dlovins | NLA++ [09:57:24] anarchivist | MrDys: so i kept getting asked to do these talks on web 2.0 initiatives [09:57:27] MrDys | anarchivist: shows you how out of touch archivists are [09:57:27] anarchivist | NLA++ [09:57:34] anarchivist | MrDys: you're telling me [09:57:35] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b8950954e78f28c0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:57:50] BigD | anarchivist: web2.0 is marketing [09:58:02] mbklein | anarchivist: My EAD comment was just blatant karma whoring. Thanks for playing along. :) [09:58:04] BigD | marketing helps ppl move to new ideas [09:58:04] jrochkind100 | "web2.0" doesn't mean anything. [09:58:04] anarchivist | BigD: you know, one of the archivists at NYPL keeps reminding me of that [09:58:18] mjg_ | BigD: "your content, my profit?" [09:58:20] anarchivist | EAD is totally easy to implement [09:58:20] BigD | not everyone is a crazed monkey on crack like us [09:58:27] steambadger | Just put your EADs on Twitter, one line at a time. [09:58:28] jrochkind100 | The archivists just need to worry about web PERIOD. They're not even "web 1.0" yet. [09:58:40] anarchivist | jrochkind100-- # watch it [09:58:43] JodiS | web2.0, at its BEST, is not marketing but connection. Attention to socialization. But, yeah, just marketing [09:58:57] ---| ---> fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f41e864c598a6611] has joined #code4lib [09:58:59] ---| ---> dcloutman_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-41.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:59:00] jbrinley | "Web 0.3" [09:59:04] mbklein | mibbit's actually a pretty nice irc client, all things considered. [09:59:05] akorphan | jodis: Maybe a set of design behaviors.... [09:59:05] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-60857e578443b586] has joined #code4lib [09:59:14] dchud_ | twitter-ead. the mind boggles! [09:59:14] * anarchivist looks forward to more archival powwows at code4lib [09:59:18] ---| ---> mib_75qiz6d2 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-64528aed0ebf1cba] has joined #code4lib [09:59:25] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-60857e578443b586] has quit (Client Quit) [09:59:28] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3596212608de064e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:59:29] anarchivist | bradw++ # for finally coming to c4lcon [09:59:36] ---| User: *** mib_75qiz6d2 is now known as mouwd [09:59:36] wickr | wow that's an awesome chart [09:59:41] ---| <--- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [09:59:44] dchud_ | i *love* how this slide doesn't say what it does. it could be anything! [09:59:48] ---| <--- cliff_ [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [09:59:50] MikeTaylor | After Web 2.0 comes Web 3.0, then Web 3.1, then Web for Workgroups, then Web 95. [09:59:51] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:59:54] atz | "New OLE Modules" [10:00:00] ---| User: *** skoczko2 is now known as scotchko [10:00:03] wickr | it could be a boat! [10:00:04] BigD | or "neurotic pumas on jet-powered hoverbikes with nasty smack habits and opposable thumbs" http://www.monkeybagel.com/pumas.html [10:00:09] jrochkind100 | i'm glad the ole people are doing what they're doing. and i'm glad I'm not involved. [10:00:10] abarrera | web2.0=New Coke [10:00:11] mjg_ | The egg carton of doom. [10:00:19] Kerwick | So do the blocks on the bottom shoot missiles at the bubbles up top? [10:00:28] atz | MikeTaylor: you skipped WebNT 4.0? [10:00:33] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bd1047be4ba20dd0] has joined #code4lib [10:00:34] lbjay | Kerwick++ [10:00:41] wickr | atz: that's Internet2 [10:00:45] akorphan | MikeTaylor++ [10:00:54] kat3 | http://oleproject.org/2009/02/24/ole-project-related-applications-survey/ [10:00:56] anarchivist | wickr: you mean teh internets [10:01:01] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [10:01:05] MikeTaylor | I thought WebNT 4.0 came after Web 98, but before Web ME. [10:01:08] * lbjay was not done digesting the blocks and bubbles slide [10:01:13] mjg_ | MikeTaylor++ [10:01:16] ---| ---> mib_d72jwo [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8180db316d46040f] has joined #code4lib [10:01:16] dlovins | " 'Olé' is the Spanish adaptation of 'Allah', the Arabic word for God. So when Spaniards say 'Olé' at a bullfight, they are saying Praise 'Allah' " (Hisham Aidi) [10:01:17] BigD | WebBob [10:01:21] mbklein | abarrera: web2.0=when cars moved from being mechanical to being computerized. Same problems, harder and more expensive to fix, impossible to troubleshoot without help from the dealer. [10:01:23] * akorphan waits for the webbertubes to come into vogue. [10:01:26] steambadger | web 2.3b06 [10:01:36] ---| <<-- escowles [i=46a41974@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-56421ae72e4298fb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:01:39] rsinger | dchud_: it does BPM [10:01:45] anarchivist | dlovins++ [10:01:45] ecorrado | web 3.0 rc04 [10:01:52] dchud_ | rsinger: exactly! [10:01:53] abarrera | MikeTaylor++ # Web ME [10:02:10] anarchivist | dlovins: the rlg conf call i was on yesterday was really good [10:02:11] BigD | dlovins: did u see the TED talk that talked about Ole? [10:02:30] lbjay | @praise OLE [10:02:31] zoia | radiation has made OLE an enemy of civilization [10:02:36] fak3r | having_conversations++ [10:02:36] fak3r | community_sourcing_phrase-- [10:02:36] mjg_ | lbjay++ [10:02:45] dlovins | anarchavist: sorry I missed it. [10:02:45] atz | i'm pretty sure liblime doesn't have any time do spend w/ OLE... at least not my time [10:02:46] mjg_ | "Ole-hoo akbar!" [10:02:49] jrochkind100 | In OLE, the project reaches out YOU. [10:02:49] anarchivist | dlovins: looks line we're working to move towards operational groups to sorta work on groupings of questions [10:02:51] akorphan | is it break time after this? [10:02:54] anarchivist | dlovins: np, you were on the one i missed [10:02:57] dlovins | BidG: No I haven't seen the TED talk. Did it mention Allah? [10:02:58] jbrinley | @praise seems to be somewhat, um, faint, of late [10:03:06] rosy1280 | why is the interwebs still slow!! [10:03:08] anarchivist | akorphan: think there's one more [10:03:12] atz | 3 years from now... wtf. [10:03:13] BillDueber | akorphan: Nope. Blacklight. Go Bess! [10:03:14] akorphan | oh right [10:03:15] fak3r | everyone needs to stop surfing so we can irc here [10:03:17] anarchivist | rosy1280: bess is still bittorrenting 24 [10:03:18] royt | anarchivist: careful, you're praising the evil OCLC [10:03:19] akorphan | bess++ [10:03:19] lbjay | jbrinley: what are you a civilization-lover? [10:03:21] BigD | dlovins: yep - from the work, eat, pray lady [10:03:27] BigD | actually a wonderful talk [10:03:32] anarchivist | royt: i'm not LibraryThingTim [10:03:36] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db16d04ffbc21f79] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:03:39] akorphan | obama_posterizer++ [10:03:39] steambadger | Won't the Next Generation be over before that? [10:03:42] anarchivist | royt: giving you shit <> giving OCLC shit [10:03:44] ---| ---> cliff_ [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [10:03:49] jrochkind100 | yeah, he sold OLE well, I think. [10:03:50] LibraryThingT | I am Spartacus. [10:03:52] rosy1280 | bess-- [10:03:54] anarchivist | i finally get OLE [10:03:58] dlovins | anarchavist: I don't think I was invited to that conference call ... I was in a different time slot I guess [10:04:06] harmless | people should put their irc name at the end of the talk :) [10:04:07] rsinger | *crickets* [10:04:08] robcaSSon | meh [10:04:12] rosy1280 | OLE++ [10:04:15] robcaSSon | robcaSSon-- [10:04:17] anarchivist | dlovins: yeah, i couldn't do the one two weeks ago, actually because i was up in new haven for the day [10:04:27] atz | "my question is... what is there to have questions about?" [10:04:30] anarchivist | timmcgeary++ [10:04:35] mjg_ | timmcgeary++ [10:04:35] dchud_ | so, um, *ahem*. DO WE NEED TO GET SIGNED RELEASES BEFORE PUBLISHING VIDEOS? [10:04:36] akorphan | not to be confused with Microsoft OLE [10:04:36] rsinger | atz++ [10:04:41] kgs | dchud I'm not handling the releases but soemone is (eesh I thought this had to do with software and was panicked I didn't know it ... ) [10:04:43] royt | go bess! [10:04:54] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:05:03] akorphan | nice logo [10:05:05] mjg_ | neat logo. [10:05:14] mjg_ | bess++ [10:05:16] lbjay | electric avenue [10:05:16] dchud_ | "hi, bess" [10:05:18] BillDueber | While I love the idea of the blacklight logo, I'm not sure I could read it if I didn't already know what it says [10:05:19] kgs | bess++ [10:05:19] robcaSSon | they've done some really great design/logo work the past year [10:05:22] atz | neon_font++ [10:05:22] anarchivist | solrmarc++ [10:05:22] JodiS | bess++ [10:05:29] BigD | dlovins: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html [10:05:30] jrochkind100 | kgs: you mean there might be something about software that you don't know? Unacceptable! [10:05:31] BillDueber | lbjay: And then you'll take it higher. [10:05:35] dchud_ | is anybody handling release forms? [10:05:39] akorphan | Does Blacklight make all the protein stains on your collection glow? [10:05:43] mjg_ | erikhatcher++ [10:05:44] lbjay | BillDueber: you're thinking of robcaSSon [10:05:46] anarchivist | akorphan-- [10:05:49] JodiS | erikhatcher++ [10:05:50] anarchivist | solr_preconf++ [10:05:52] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-203909e4176e610f] has joined #code4lib [10:05:59] ecorrado | dchud_: we're discussing it at table 1.0 [10:05:59] anarchivist | erikhatcher++ [10:05:59] jrochkind100 | akorphan: yes. [10:06:03] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0984adfc1883e234] has joined #code4lib [10:06:04] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-775e1b381b353cd1] has joined #code4lib [10:06:13] kgs | jrochkind100 well something *basic* about software licensing... I was thinking gee, the devs tag releases when they're ready... but sign them?! [10:06:13] mjg_ | erikhatcher's_sermon++ [10:06:23] fak3r | damn, I'm getting lag of over 100 on my irssi lag-o-meter [10:06:23] jrochkind100 | bess++ # talking slowly AND non-monotonously, a code4lib first! [10:06:28] dlovins | BigD++ [10:06:29] Scurvy | ++jawdropping-- [10:06:34] kgs | there is one speaker who didn't sign a release and we'll be sure not to tape him [10:06:36] JodiS | fak3r: CRAZY lag from here [10:06:42] mbklein | If the network is really becoming the platform, we're all going straight into the ocean. [10:06:50] mbklein | Just sayin'. [10:06:51] anarchivist | erick_sermon++ [10:06:54] LibraryThingT | nice [10:06:55] mjg_ | I like the ocean. [10:06:56] dchud_ | kgs: oh so this was already handled? wonderful. /me shuts back up [10:06:57] JodiS | kgs: were those done electronically in advance? [10:06:57] JodiS | ocean++ [10:06:57] anarchivist | parrish_smith++ [10:06:58] erikhatcher | I woke up this morning.... [10:07:06] abarrera | i like Billie Ocean [10:07:08] mjg_ | anarchivist++ # strickly bizniss [10:07:08] * jbrinley is going to the ocean Friday [10:07:10] erikhatcher | and heard a disturbing sound [10:07:14] anarchivist | mjg_++ [10:07:14] dchud_ | Eddy Grant! [10:07:25] robcaSSon | *_business++ [10:07:26] akorphan | serendipity++ [10:07:34] dchud_ | ooh, purty [10:07:35] BigD | jbrinley: me too, when i go home ;) [10:07:36] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1042b99cd2fe1fd0] has joined #code4lib [10:07:37] ---| <<-- ccatalfo [i=46a4197e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-078a74a5fc98ef99] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:07:37] ---| <<-- mib_ym0p0j [i=46a41977@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-86d3b594e7b0c75c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:07:37] anarchivist | but doesn't blacklight sterilize stuff? you know, like, in the good way? [10:07:38] atz | please no more hand-wringing about stacks... has nobody *ever* had a good recommendation from Amazon or Google? [10:07:40] kgs | JodiS I don't know. in fact I'm just assuming. I'm just a monkey swappnig out tapes under the direction of a student intern [10:07:41] lbjay | jbrinley: where ya headed? [10:07:42] rosy1280 | erikhatcher was it the internet crashing? [10:07:44] fak3r | next year I'm bringing my own wifi router, and will run an IRCd on a dedicated box [10:07:46] jrochkind100 | "going to the ocean" is a euphemism, right jbrinley? [10:07:49] jtgorman | weird... [10:07:51] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:07:52] zoia | Ŧåĸŏ [10:07:59] kgs | royt ? [10:08:06] jtgorman | I've never seen Salutation as a required field in a "help contact form" [10:08:12] jbrinley | jrochkind100: no, I'm going swimming in the ocean on Friday [10:08:13] JodiS | fak3r++ [10:08:14] codemonkey | which is better vufind or blacklight? [10:08:20] erikhatcher | rosy1280: it was the jingle *jangle* of a thousand lost books [10:08:25] anarchivist | codemonkey: neither [10:08:28] lbjay | i think glen newton looks like the pilot guy from LOST [10:08:28] LibraryThingT | Do we need to choose? [10:08:31] erikhatcher | codemonkey: blacklight :) [10:08:38] BigD | jbrinley: in the ocean out here? brrr! [10:08:39] anarchivist | err [10:08:41] * jbrinley is visiting Miami after c4lcon [10:08:42] erikhatcher | LibraryThingTim: well sure, libraries need to choose [10:08:43] anarchivist | blacklight [10:08:43] lbjay | lah-peet-us [10:08:44] anarchivist | uva++ [10:08:47] dchud_ | "classic soft rock : over 50 all-time favorites" [10:08:49] mjg_ | codemonkey: whichever is easiest for your sysadmins to support, prolly. [10:08:54] akorphan | search_failure-- [10:09:00] jrochkind100 | well, yeah, an individual institution needs to choose to implement one or the other or neither. No reason to implement both . [10:09:02] jrochkind100 | blacklight is better. [10:09:05] rosy1280 | erikhatcher i think it was the interwebs [10:09:06] mbklein | On video first, THEN the book. [10:09:09] anarchivist | teh winnar! [10:09:18] atz | wow, low success threshhold [10:09:21] akorphan | tiebreaker is probably pub date [10:09:26] LibraryThingT | Well, if they controlled 50/50 of the market, I'd be happy. Oh, Evergreen and Koha can have slices too. There, can we go home now that we've decided this? :) [10:09:26] ---| ---> cmillward [n=cmillwar@user-0calc4q.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #code4lib [10:09:29] Scurvy | FRBR we hardly knew you [10:09:31] gsf | facetinating [10:09:38] * mjg_ now has the velvets' "the ocean" rattling around his empty skull. [10:09:51] fak3r | mjg_: the ocean++ [10:09:56] erikhatcher | gsf++ [10:09:57] codemonkey | does vufind or blacklight support real time synch with voyegur, which mean when a patron search a book can it give the correct hold/status of the book? [10:09:58] * timmcgeary is breathing again [10:09:59] kat3 | pinyin [10:10:04] rsinger | KCODE+- [10:10:07] mbklein | LibraryThingTim: The catalog is not the ILS. Koha/Evergreen inhabit a different space from Blacklight/vufind [10:10:08] kgs | good job timmcgeary [10:10:09] * rosy1280 doesn't speak that language [10:10:11] kat3 | that's a tough translation to handle [10:10:20] jrochkind100 | codemonkey: Sort of. [10:10:21] timmcgeary | kgs: thanks [10:10:23] cbarr | VuFind gets the real-time status from Voyager [10:10:23] lbjay | is the list of yesterday's lightning talks captured somewhere? [10:10:25] robcaSSon | codemonkey: you just pull/scrape on display [10:10:28] royt | kgs: no clue, but will check with Brown folks on the break [10:10:31] ruest | buddha++ [10:10:32] ecorrado | codemonkey: dont know about blacklight but vufind does [10:10:35] ---| <<-- gmcharlt [n=gmcharlt@adsl-179-117-85.gnv.bellsouth.net] has quit ("Leaving") [10:10:35] dchud_ | lbjay: yes i think it's on the wiki [10:10:41] royt | lbjay: yes, on the lightning talks page [10:10:46] LibraryThingT | That's true. [10:10:47] dchud_ | lbjay: plus ray got pictures, they're in his flickr stream [10:10:48] rsinger | this sort of thing is why blacklight should just punt to jruby [10:11:00] dlovins | vufind++ [10:11:01] gsf | codemonkey: usually via ajax screenscrape, yeah [10:11:10] royt | lbjay: http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/lightning [10:11:13] jrochkind100 | Blacklight sort of does. Blacklight is not an out of the box solution for anyone, yet. IMO. You need to be interested in working on it. Which I am. It's a really good foundation to work on. [10:11:13] lbjay | thansks [10:11:13] akorphan | I wonder what the scalability of blacklight is [10:11:15] mjg_ | rayschwartz++ # a picture-taking FIEND [10:11:18] fak3r | differentCharSets-- [10:11:31] * robcaSSon waits for a solr based discovery layer written in Groovy [10:11:33] erikhatcher | akorphan: solr scales to billions of documents [10:11:36] codemonkey | cool, I guess then i'll look in to vufind, thanks :) [10:11:44] BigD | i'd usually be taking pix, but it's too friggin cold to haul that thing outside [10:11:51] akorphan | solr++ [10:11:54] BigD | and the light sucks in here [10:11:58] lbjay | royt: is the wiki serving as the signup sheet? [10:11:59] atz | "Unicorn" is not specific enough to say when you are talking about URLs [10:11:59] rsinger | groovy-- [10:12:00] BigD | and i was told not to flash ;) [10:12:04] mbklein | persistent_urls++ [10:12:17] akorphan | Invalid_or_missing_multifunction_form_CGI_type-- [10:12:19] rsinger | akorphan: what would not be scalable about it? [10:12:21] jrochkind100 | Personally, I think anyone currently looking for an out of the box not-going-to-touch-the-code-myself library 'ng' catalog solution -- is looking for a utopia that does not exist. [10:12:30] erikhatcher | codemonkey: blacklight will welcome you back when you want elegance in your view :) [10:12:31] fak3r | jrochkind100++ [10:12:37] ---| <<-- LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@34.sub-75-222-40.myvzw.com] has quit () [10:12:38] Scurvy | sessionid_in_URL-- [10:12:45] rsinger | s/view/code/ [10:12:46] mjg_ | BigD: I imagine we'd all look jaundiced. [10:12:48] akorphan | rsinger: I don't know enough about the backend stuff to know what's going to end up being scalable and what's not, so just an honest question in this case. [10:12:48] abarrera | well what happens is UVA gets divorced? [10:12:53] anarchivist | oh fuck, justrealized my data typing for one of my drupal CCK fields for our new website is wrong [10:12:54] anarchivist | oops [10:12:55] atz | *which* Unicorn OPAC: web2, orbix, or whatever the other ones were? [10:13:00] rosy1280 | just thinking...mellon throws a lot of money at the same problems...isn't that wasteful [10:13:05] * timmcgeary is working on real-time status for Unicorn/Symphony to work in VuFind and Blacklight [10:13:06] jrochkind100 | I mean, it's just the other side of the coin of thinking if you just pay the right vendor enough money, all your problems will be solved. [10:13:09] jrochkind100 | It's not there yet. [10:13:10] ---| <<-- bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fd4faea2ac1fd51] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:13:13] BigD | mjg_: you always do [10:13:17] rsinger | akorphan: it's really just a webinterface for a solr index [10:13:21] ---| ---> vett [n=chatzill@128.151.189.132] has joined #code4lib [10:13:26] jrochkind100 | timmcgeary: thanks for not calling it 'sirsidynix'. SD has TWO ILSs, people! [10:13:34] gsf | rsinger: aren't we all [10:13:36] rsinger | akorphan: so there's really nothing /unscalable/ about it [10:13:36] timmcgeary | rosy1280: mellon's only job is to throw money, actually [10:13:40] codemonkey | @erikhatcher: I'm not set on anything yet. I guess I'll give all the options a try on a test server and see how it goes [10:13:42] zoia | codemonkey: duuude ur marshing my mallow [10:13:42] mbklein | REST++ [10:13:49] * jbrinley wants that [10:13:52] timmcgeary | jrochkind100: you're welcome [10:13:55] dbs | jrochkind100: not for long :) [10:14:00] fak3r | misspeling-- [10:14:02] dchud_ | ugh: "TypeError: string indices must be integers" [10:14:10] jrochkind100 | I don't think there's anything wrong with parallel efforts working on similar problems. But if I were Mellon, would I spend my money differently than they actually do? Sure. [10:14:11] timmcgeary | but dbs is correct - not for long [10:14:19] akorphan | rsinger: I've never played with solr or even know a lot about it, so I wasn't sure what to expect. [10:14:22] lbjay | @aussie [karma REST] [10:14:23] zoia | lbjay: SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATES! [10:14:36] Scurvy | I always loved the 008 fixed field best. [10:14:40] * mjg_ adds @aussie to foaf:currentProject [10:14:48] rsinger | akorphan: i'll pass the solr advocacy to erikhatcher [10:14:53] dbs | atz: others are iBlink and eps rooms and ... whatever their kochief competitor is [10:14:55] robcaSSon | solr++ [10:14:55] atz | i think i could handle the "how do I spend all this cash?" problem in the library space.... [10:14:59] edsu | i wonder if blacklight pages uses to reference the xml representation [10:15:02] JodiS | bess++ [10:15:04] timmcgeary | One of the big problems in Mellon is that their IT grant budget is significantly smaller than humanities (w/o technology) [10:15:04] jrochkind100 | we'll see how long. I'll bet you $100 that in 10 years there will still be hundreds of libraries using Horizon. [10:15:04] mbklein | @foaf mjg_ currentProject [10:15:05] BigD | i went to sleep dreaming of an rdf de-cliqueifying app... [10:15:07] zoia | mbklein: mjg_ : , [10:15:17] BigD | need a 3d graphviz tool [10:15:26] atz | dbs++ [10:15:27] jrochkind100 | edsu: If not, it's easy to fix. [10:15:30] atz | iblink-- [10:15:32] gsf | any tables with an open chair AND power outlet? [10:15:38] timmcgeary | so they end up giving smaller grants to a number of projects rather than being able to give a large grant to a cooperation [10:15:43] gsf | i'm running low [10:15:44] dbs | jrochkind100: you're probably right. there may even be some place in BC running the scuppered Horizon 8 [10:15:48] ---| ---> abrin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0c7062b2a836ccc7] has joined #code4lib [10:15:55] rosy1280 | timmcgeary yeah i get that, but are they really solving anything with their money? [10:15:56] edsu | jrochkind100: yea [10:15:57] ---| <<-- harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-12cbc0f759d43276] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:15:58] rsinger | i really dug how easy it is to hack on blacklight [10:16:07] robcaSSon | gsf: if you chord will reach, we've got open power on the table behind you [10:16:17] fak3r | duets++ [10:16:19] rsinger | \m/ [10:16:21] atz | gsf: take Bess' seat! [10:16:22] royt | flickr paging totally sucks...photos you've seen on page one show up on subsequent pages...wtf? [10:16:32] timmcgeary | rosy1280: I don't think it is their job to solve. It's our job to solve it w/ their money, right? [10:16:42] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6cb3815cd9e29f5] has joined #code4lib [10:16:46] kgs | rosy1280 think of it as an ARL stimulus package. [10:16:47] mbklein | jsonovich++ [10:16:47] royt | bess++ # good speaker [10:16:50] BigD | royt: i'm losing the flickr love... their interface is butt [10:16:50] Scurvy | expanded searching? [10:16:55] atz | bess++ good problem example [10:17:09] fak3r | BigD: flickr ui hasn't changed/improved in years [10:17:10] ---| <--- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [10:17:13] jbrinley | gsf: chairs and power at the front table (next to ecorrado) [10:17:13] charper | implied_marc_data-- [10:17:14] mjg_ | bess++ # general rocking [10:17:16] charper | bess++ [10:17:18] ---| ---> mib_bkneahph [i=4a089f83@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-47505bc2bc535b47] has joined #code4lib [10:17:21] timmcgeary | bess++ [10:17:21] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:17:29] gsf | robcaSSon: didn't want to be that jerk, but think i will [10:17:39] ---| <<-- fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f41e864c598a6611] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:17:39] ---| <<-- mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9948e9d27ab3fff2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:17:41] fak3r | allman_brothers++ [10:17:46] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Brickley, Dan: On the internet, no-one knows. [10:17:49] robcaSSon | gsf: i'll do it for you. everyone already knows i'm a jerk [10:17:54] rosy1280 | timmcgeary although i'm hoping the money they give ole solves something [10:17:56] lbjay | MrDys: did you get your mac address registered? need that url again? [10:18:00] jfereira | music brains? [10:18:07] rsinger | The University of Virginia Axel Rose Music Library [10:18:08] BigD | BRAINS!!! [10:18:08] liza31337 | MusicBrainz [10:18:10] MrDys | lbjay: I'm glaring at you [10:18:16] timmcgeary | rosy1280: I do too! [10:18:18] jbrinley | is someone giving a lighting talk about musicbrainz? [10:18:18] rsinger | Axl [10:18:20] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-17b5ccc232160027] has joined #code4lib [10:18:21] lbjay | gsf: what was that url again? [10:18:21] * dchud_ queues "Jessica" in brainz [10:18:24] ecorrado | @sing Allman Brothers [10:18:27] zoia | Baby, I'm too far gone to turn around / Oh, if only you would make up your mind / Take me where you go, you're leaving me behind / Lord, you got those come and go blues [10:18:30] atz | Just got use your illusion 2? [10:18:31] MikeTaylor | Could you guys all please run a few less bittorrent clients? Teh internets today is so slow it's making yesterday's repsonse seem lightning-like ... and I need to do a git push :-) [10:18:32] atz | wtf? [10:18:36] rosy1280 | timmcgeary definitely our job, like kgs idea of a stimulus package [10:18:36] jrochkind100 | Yeah, but they just get it all from torrents, dude. [10:18:38] JodiS | always a good question: "are they really solving anything with their money?" rosy1280++ [10:18:43] mbklein | @sing Allman Brothers : Jessica [10:18:44] BigD | college students are broke? [10:18:46] zoia | Instrumental [10:18:48] BigD | they can get a job [10:18:50] JodiS | bess: "That's a FAIL." [10:18:54] mbklein | zoia++ nice! [10:18:55] zoia | mbklein: Hang on, let me check my +2 Bag of Holding... [10:18:57] gsf | lbjay: for which? [10:18:58] fak3r | using "that's a fail" in a speech. good/bad, discuss [10:18:58] BigD | someone please tell my son this... [10:19:02] edsu | people are running bittorrent? [10:19:04] dchud_ | JodiS: that did sound like it was all caps, didn't it :) [10:19:10] wtd | bess++ [10:19:12] timmcgeary | rosy1280: that's definitely a fair description [10:19:19] ecorrado | whenever I hear about things some LSs can not do, it makes Voyager look better [10:19:21] abarrera | BigD: i heard you dad, just send the child support and stop bitching [10:19:26] gsf | fak3r: s/that's a/epic/ makes it ok [10:19:28] erikhatcher | bess++ [10:19:29] lbjay | gsf: the speaker mac address thing [10:19:30] wtd | "If you're spending lots of money on music and not telling your users about it ... you might be a library." [10:19:30] ecorrado | lowering_thebar-- [10:19:33] JodiS | timmcgeary: does "enterprise" library system mean that we need more tech staff? And if so, how do we get that? [10:19:36] robcaSSon | bess++ uva++ # they've given us some great ideas already [10:19:42] gsf | lbjay: http://rc98.net/macaddress [10:19:45] BigD | wtd++ [10:19:50] lbjay | gsf: coolio [10:19:51] rsinger | haha [10:19:53] JodiS | bess++ [10:19:57] anarchivist | gsf++ [10:19:58] JodiS | wtd: :( [10:20:05] akorphan | solr indexing strengths/weaknesses? [10:20:07] jtgorman | Thomson_Reuters-- [10:20:07] * rosy1280 annoyed that s.o. was paid with mellon money and paid poorly [10:20:07] atz | if your college students can't find GnR mp3s, I question their dedication.. [10:20:11] mjg_ | "enterprise"-- [10:20:22] robcaSSon | akorphan: "there are only strengths" [10:20:28] jtgorman | I mean, what, is this 1950? Why require a salutation in your freaken form. Make it optional. [10:20:30] Kerwick | wtd++ [10:20:40] timmcgeary | JodiS: no, actually it should not mean that; it should mean that there is a better streamlined interoperability with other enterprise systems already in place that the ILS is (trying to) work with [10:20:55] JodiS | timmcgeary: ok, that makes more sense [10:20:55] mib_xxmepy6r | atz... good point... [10:20:56] akorphan | robcaSSon: a bold pronouncement [10:21:07] mbklein | gsf ftw [10:21:12] atz | jtgorman: just make the default salutation "Lord" [10:21:12] timmcgeary | JodiS: it should mean that the 10 people we have work in our Banner dept should be working with our Acq folks to handle purchasing better [10:21:16] mjg_ | roman_coins++ [10:21:21] anarchivist | @band add The Normanby Hoard [10:21:21] zoia | anarchivist: Band 'The Normanby Hoard' added to list [10:21:22] robcaSSon | akorphan++ [10:21:29] anarchivist | roman_hands++ [10:21:32] JodiS | timmcgeary: good luck with that. but yes. [10:21:34] anarchivist | russian_fingers++ [10:21:35] dlovins | bess++ [10:21:40] royt | sweet [10:21:40] ---| <<-- codemonkey [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-42f12f097cf62330] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:21:40] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1042b99cd2fe1fd0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:21:43] gsf | @band [10:21:44] zoia | gsf: Captain Stubbing's Mistress [10:21:44] anarchivist | LAM_integration++ [10:21:44] mjg_ | bess++ # talking at a high level, showing code, kicking arse [10:21:46] JodiS | pessimism-- [10:21:54] atz | timmcgeary: it would also help if ILS apps had "enterprise" class reliability and Q/A [10:21:56] mjg_ | anarchivist+- [10:22:04] JodiS | blacklight++ [10:22:06] timmcgeary | JodiS: I know, right! It's why we are bringing the CIOs to the table next week [10:22:12] JodiS | stanford++ [10:22:19] jrochkind100 | roman coins <> COinS [10:22:19] jrochkind100 | stanford++ [10:22:24] anarchivist | beyond_the_silos_of_the_LAMs+- [10:22:25] dbs | atz: aye! And APIs! [10:22:25] robcaSSon | stanford is going w/ everything tho, right? [10:22:31] anarchivist | COinS4coins [10:22:32] timmcgeary | atz: absolutely agree - that's why we are investing in the governance design component heavily [10:22:37] mbklein | engines++ [10:22:38] ---| ---> gmcharlt [n=gmcharlt@adsl-179-117-85.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #code4lib [10:22:39] khatar | solr based ... i'm afraid about it .. [10:22:41] ---| <<-- _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5a2dd1afe2e9e4b7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:22:53] timmcgeary | atz: and looking at other major projects and how they are handling governance [10:23:01] mbklein | rails_engines++ [10:23:02] akorphan | painful_merging-- [10:23:06] liza31337 | Blacklight is awesome, wow [10:23:07] khatar | ROR++ [10:23:13] royt | *spontaneous applause* [10:23:14] Scurvy | painful_merging-- [10:23:14] khatar | MVC++ [10:23:15] highermath_c4 | ah, objection [10:23:16] rsinger | sheesh people what's your amazing alternative that you are clinging to in favor of solr? [10:23:20] ---| ---> codemonkey [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8c144518feba586f] has joined #code4lib [10:23:30] ---| ---> chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:23:31] mbklein | How do engines handle precedence? What if one engine defines a route or a template that conflicts with another engine? [10:23:32] anarchivist | rsinger: SWISH-E! [10:23:35] erikhatcher | to be fair, Solr Flare circa code4lib 07 was (and still is) Rails Engines based :) [10:23:38] Scurvy | fancy_schmancy++ [10:23:39] jrochkind100 | for the long haul, well-designed code, well-designed process, means more than "works out of the box without me having to touch it." [10:23:41] mjg_ | bess++ erikhatcher++ # code is already out there, w/ an eye towards discouraging crappy merges/forks [10:23:41] royt | oh, nice, a generic blacklight web site now [10:23:48] jfereira | jira++ [10:23:53] mjg_ | rsinger: grep [10:23:53] steambadger | RoR overlays ++ [10:23:55] anarchivist | solrmarc++ [10:23:57] anarchivist | solrmarc++ [10:23:59] anarchivist | solrmarc++ [10:23:59] JodiS | timcgeary: OLE comes off as another ILS project, starting with talking rather than coding. I'm starting to understand what you're talking about. Hoping for clearer communication--and sorry I'm slow to catch on! [10:23:59] khatar | rsinger, i don't know i admit [10:23:59] mbklein | rsinger: People love to diss the popular kids. :) [10:24:01] atz | rsinger: zebra? [10:24:04] jtgorman | so...I had to choose from "Dr.,Mr.,Mrs.,Ms.".. [10:24:07] royt | too bad http://blacklight.org/ was already registered [10:24:10] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:24:17] jtgorman | the form letter they send back "Dear Sir/Madam," [10:24:17] khatar | yeah, grep ! [10:24:17] timmcgeary | we just started using swish-e with our DL collections with contentdm [10:24:17] abarrera | VUFind+Blacklight=solrmarclove [10:24:19] rsinger | atz: wrong answer [10:24:20] khatar | grep++ [10:24:23] jtgorman | weird [10:24:25] jrochkind100 | mbklein: I'm not sure, in general having more than one engine installed is not the usual use case. But I suspect you could specify precedence in your app's environment.rb, just by specifying load order of the plugins, which you can do. [10:24:26] mbklein | jrochkind100++ [10:24:28] ---| ---> mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-872bdc2f39966623] has joined #code4lib [10:24:33] rsinger | atz: but, credit that it's an answer [10:24:41] mjg_ | JodiS++ # I think a lot of folks share that opinion and would like clarification. [10:24:43] robcaSSon | localsolr++ [10:24:46] akorphan | jtgorman: Did you choose "Dr"? [10:24:49] timmcgeary | JodiS: our hope is that the communication we bring helps to clear that confusion that we are not another ILS [10:24:51] anarchivist | localsolr++ [10:25:06] anarchivist | was that the thx noise? [10:25:09] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:25:17] akorphan | BRREEEEOOOOOWWWWWWWW [10:25:19] royt | bess++ [10:25:19] khatar | rsinger, why is it a wrong answer ? [10:25:19] anarchivist | i <3 solrmarc [10:25:20] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit () [10:25:25] rjw | Jangle++ [10:25:25] jbrinley | bess++ # nice presentation [10:25:27] abarrera | bess++ [10:25:30] dchud_ | bess++ # great job! [10:25:31] akorphan | bess++ [10:25:33] ---| ---> fak3r [n=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:25:34] rsinger | khatar: i was just being snarky [10:25:35] ejk | bess++ [10:25:36] ---| <<-- chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [10:25:38] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cdf91c03d086d29b] has joined #code4lib [10:25:41] dlovins | bess++ [10:25:41] ---| <<-- scotchko [i=46a41916@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fcaded0f80140c7b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:25:45] timmcgeary | bess++ [10:25:48] ---| <<-- wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection reset by peer) [10:25:50] charper | bess++ # really good talk [10:25:51] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d36bbd317af46fa3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:25:53] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f168ad803e1f3608] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:26:09] rsinger | khatar: but there reasons why i prefer solr to zebra [10:26:09] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-af6afb4964133fd9] has joined #code4lib [10:26:29] fak3r | that was good, the fact that they're partnering with VuFind is fantastic [10:26:29] khatar | i do right to ya right now ... [10:26:31] atz | it's the right answer for koha anyway [10:26:31] atz | rsinger: do you consider it possible to "standardize" on jangle yet? 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[10:35:36] ---| ---> was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has joined #code4lib [10:36:28] ---| <<-- btw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2d3fcc1ad325518a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:37:14] jtgorman | hmm, ok, think I got some of this figured out [10:37:20] jbrinley | codemonkey: zoia responds to everything starting with @ [10:37:20] jbrinley | this is not twitter [10:37:32] jtgorman | to import into endnoteweb ebsco uses a callback url [10:37:45] ---| <<-- MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-17c2fab5fb0584bf] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:37:45] ---| <<-- ruest [n=ruest@wsip-70-164-25-64.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:37:51] ---| ---> ruest_ [n=ruest@wsip-70-164-25-64.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:38:24] jtgorman | it directs endnote web to a file via dataRequestUrl, and specifies a format by dataIdentifier=1 [10:38:41] jtgorman | errr...dataIdentifier. 1 I'm guessing must be the endnote format [10:38:48] ---| ---> brownsica [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5a72fb832b84b249] has joined #code4lib [10:38:56] jtgorman | gah, BillDueber isn't on [10:39:01] * jtgorman will have to send him an email later [10:39:45] ---| <<-- robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-59c99f6a21159731] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:39:57] ---| ---> fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6b7bcd4382a8ab17] has joined #code4lib [10:40:45] ---| <<-- bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f964edd4954688c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:41:01] dbs | jtgorman: please CC me on that email [10:41:06] ---| User: *** jphipps is now known as jphipps|away [10:41:11] ---| <<-- jstirnaman [i=46a41937@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2f8e288061e7fc7d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:41:25] dbs | jtgorman: oh wait, I couldn't care less about endnote, I only care about refworks :) [10:41:39] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:42:32] jtgorman | dbs: well, refworks isn't too bad [10:43:07] dbs | jtgorman: good to hear. Need to integrate support into Evergreen. [10:43:23] jtgorman | dbs: although I'm still waiting to hear back on if they can process raw MARC, not the weird MARC lite BillDueber had to do with the Michigan VuFind instance [10:43:24] ---| <<-- harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-17b5ccc232160027] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:43:29] dbs | Endnote's approach sounds really damned easy [10:43:46] jtgorman | dbs: http://www.refworks.com/DirectExport.htm [10:43:49] fak3r | are you like me, do you like lag? [10:44:01] ---| <<-- fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6b7bcd4382a8ab17] has quit (Client Quit) [10:44:15] ecorrado | 2 minute warningissued [10:44:15] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3adde7f1fa0410b1] has joined #code4lib [10:44:21] ---| User: *** jphipps|away is now known as jphipps [10:44:29] jtgorman | dbs: getting Refworks to take it's format is probably pretty easy. BillDueber ended up basing his off some weird example though [10:44:41] ejk | no more coaches challenges [10:44:42] MrDys | back to back biblios? [10:44:45] dbs | jtgorman: god - I was never able to find that page, was only ever able to find the list of supported formats [10:44:45] MrDys | b to b b [10:44:47] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e6b97057e3993239] has joined #code4lib [10:44:49] dbs | jtgorman++ [10:45:07] jtgorman | dbs: http://mirlyn2-beta.lib.umich.edu/ [10:45:34] ---| <<-- mib_bkneahph [i=4a089f83@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-47505bc2bc535b47] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:45:39] jtgorman | dbs: well, my fellow committee members and BillDueber both sent me that page ;) [10:45:45] jtgorman | dbs: but yeah, googling this stuff is crazy [10:45:52] * gsf nominates ecorrado for worst name mangling award [10:45:56] kgs | royt did you get the speaker release q answered? [10:45:59] gsf | s/worst/best/ or whatevz [10:46:04] ---| ---> btw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f16b6e0b03ced038] has joined #code4lib [10:46:19] ---| <<-- gugek [n=gugek@w-dhcp00592.wireless.unc.edu] has quit () [10:46:28] ---| ---> fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d5ed52a67e00ab7] has joined #code4lib [10:46:30] dbs | jtgorman: It's all those damned library instruction web pages telling people how to export to RefWorks from database a through Z [10:46:31] royt | kgs: still tracking it down (talked to Brown folks but the person who might know wasn't there), but we'll still have to have lightning talk folks do something [10:46:35] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f906d9ac4f37dcff] has joined #code4lib [10:46:35] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-35b9323cac415794] has joined #code4lib [10:46:39] akorphan | creepy_nutrition_bars++ [10:46:43] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6950f2b52c3c35b1] has joined #code4lib [10:46:45] lbjay | liza31337: sands is here! he just shaved his beard [10:46:45] ecorrado | gsf:that's not fair, I'm great at mangaling names [10:46:46] anarchivist | charper: ? [10:46:55] jtgorman | dbs: if you do wget -S -O myoutfile.txt http://www.refworks.com.proxy.lib.umich.edu/express/expressimport.asp?vendor=Univeristy+of+Michigan+Mirlyn2+Beta&filter=MARC+Format&database=All+MARC+Formats&encoding=65001&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmirlyn2-beta.lib.umich.edu/Record/004432441/Export%3Fstyle%3DREF that should work [10:46:56] timmcgeary | creepy_nutrition_bars+coke++ [10:47:00] ---| ---> bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4d3b7dae763276b] has joined #code4lib [10:47:00] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-813a5fe9acca0520] has joined #code4lib [10:47:05] liza31337 | Is that allowed prior to a tech conference? [10:47:06] royt | kgs: the thought is that the talk submission form had a button/field, but only Brown folks would know if anyone didn't give permission [10:47:09] gsf | ecorrado++ exactly what i meant [10:47:18] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-746a6cfc50a2b51e] has joined #code4lib [10:47:19] jtgorman | dbs: yeah, I wish they had named it something like Direct Export for Refworks Developer's documenttion or linked to it that way or something [10:47:34] gsf | lbjay: yeah i noticed the ferretlessness of sands -- didn't recognize him at first [10:47:35] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-97623ab84015c869] has joined #code4lib [10:47:50] ---| ---> jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a177d39a667a70a1] has joined #code4lib [10:47:56] jtgorman | dbs: errr. [10:47:58] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1e948276a815b786] has joined #code4lib [10:48:06] jtgorman | dbs: actually, don't do wget on that [10:48:09] ---| ---> eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-566f0492dd28528f] has joined #code4lib [10:48:09] ---| ---> reeset [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-724c159260b3b6fb] has joined #code4lib [10:48:12] kgs | dchud++ # that was a good catch [10:48:14] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Bigwood, David: MARBI || Bigwood, David: Document Summarization using Wikipedia [10:48:15] timmcgeary | nice job, bess [10:48:18] jtgorman | dbs: that's the link BillDuber uses in his catalog [10:48:22] jrochkind100 | jtgorman: I've never been able to find that documentation. Did you just find it somewhere? Stick it the link the code4lib wiki or something. [10:48:25] ---| <<-- cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-813a5fe9acca0520] has quit (Client Quit) [10:48:26] bess | thanks, timmcgeary, you too. :) [10:48:30] wickr | reeset: is kim here? [10:48:35] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit () [10:48:39] timmcgeary | thanks [10:48:39] dbs | jrochkind100: I'll code4lib delicious it too [10:48:43] dlovins | data_silos-- [10:48:49] royt | ALL YOUR DATA BELONG TO US [10:48:51] timmcgeary | data_silos-- [10:48:53] royt | did i say that out loud? [10:48:56] jtgorman | dbs: wget -S -0 myalmostmarc.txt http://mirlyn2-beta.lib.umich.edu/Record/004432441/Export?style=REF [10:48:56] charper | anarchivist? [10:49:00] jrochkind100 | dbs++ [10:49:05] atz | lol royt [10:49:06] ---| ---> cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has joined #code4lib [10:49:08] rsinger | royt: your 996 is showing [10:49:08] ruest_ | dbs++ [10:49:10] timmcgeary | lol royt [10:49:11] jtgorman | will give you an idea of the actual file used by the callback function to refworks [10:49:12] anarchivist | charper: pming you backchannel [10:49:14] kgs | royt and we even pay you to take them from us, too! [10:49:16] ---| ---> gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6dccadfac86b45df] has joined #code4lib [10:49:16] timmcgeary | rsinger++ [10:49:22] ---| ---> _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4270da6159a7121f] has joined #code4lib [10:49:28] bess | how do you pronouce ‡ ? [10:49:32] jrochkind100 | in the public domain according to some, OCLC disagrees. [10:49:35] JodiS | timmcgeary: I'd like to talk more about the communication piece. Maybe we could chat offline later? [10:49:35] JodiS | anybody have a spare laptop to use as a timer? [10:49:38] ---| ---> jmspargu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9671ae23bcba6ab9] has joined #code4lib [10:49:41] jtgorman | jrochkind100: I'll do that in a bit.....been a while since I posted anything to the wiki... [10:49:44] jrochkind100 | bess: It's silent. [10:49:45] royt | kgs: no, you pay us to keep them around, improve them, and share them with others in a permanent, supported way ;-) [10:49:48] rsinger | "TckTckWookaWooka" [10:49:49] lbjay | bess: do you still have your tonsils? [10:49:49] robcaSSon | royt++ # for bringing a sense of humour to the borg [10:49:51] JodiS | Talis++ #for funding open data licensing [10:49:51] * jrochkind100 is not a fan of putting weird punctuation in your names. [10:49:53] timmcgeary | JodiS: Absolutely [10:49:56] jbrinley | bess: it has kind of a schrmrllm sound [10:49:57] jtgorman | jrochkind100: or...are you on delicious? [10:49:58] rsinger | bess: i swear [10:50:03] kgs | bess I started a new tape at the beginning of this talk [10:50:07] atz | bess: pronounced silently.... the name of the character is "double dagger" though... pretty cool [10:50:12] jrochkind100 | jtgorman: yeah, jrochkind. [10:50:23] timmcgeary | JodiS: When is good for you? [10:50:25] rsinger | bess: from here on, you should only pronounce it "TckTckWookaWookaBiblios" [10:50:32] jtgorman | jrochkind100: do a search for the tags "refworks directexport" [10:50:33] jwn | ask Victor Borge how to pronounce it [10:50:34] jrochkind100 | There's a band in Baltimore called Double Dagger. I wonder if they're librarians, I should ask them. [10:50:37] * royt extracts the double-dagger from his heart [10:50:45] MrDys | jrochkind100: they're graphic designers. teach at MICA [10:50:46] lbjay | @ana TckTckWookaWookaBiblios [10:50:48] jtgorman | jrochkind100: and I just added developer [10:50:48] zoia | lbjay: Ciao! Twist OK OK OK blowback [10:50:51] jrochkind100 | jtgorman: I'm not going to remember that when I need it. [10:50:54] kgs | is that a double-dagger that I see before me? [10:50:55] * jtgorman is jtgorman [10:51:16] jtgorman | jrochkind100: ok, I'll try to write up something on the code4lib wiki...want to actually get my own working first though [10:51:17] rsinger | @ana Ciao! Twist OK OK OK blowback [10:51:19] zoia | rsinger: OK wit cookbook as black wit [10:51:28] * akorphan reiterates his skepticism about social data generation. [10:51:30] rsinger | is this an 'open api'? [10:51:34] jrochkind100 | jtgorman: Nah, just delicious bookmark it with code4lib tag, good enough for me. [10:51:35] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [10:51:42] timmcgeary | JodiS: tim.mcgeary@lehigh.edu - feel free to email me or timmcgeary on Google/YahooIM [10:51:42] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3ae09a33a4e2a33e] has joined #code4lib [10:51:45] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7691f4211addcb1c] has joined #code4lib [10:51:48] jtgorman | jrochkind100: well, if you bookmark that one now and then tag it refworks and just search that you probably should find it ;) [10:51:52] * jtgorman will do so [10:51:57] jrochkind100 | biblios.net is my hero. [10:52:22] jtgorman | biblios.net++ [10:52:28] ecorrado | indexdata love [10:52:29] jtgorman | jrochkind100: done [10:52:48] ---| <<-- highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b3a60eb156768542] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:52:57] akorphan | I have a theory that eventually every exotic animal will have a product named after it. [10:52:58] steambadger | APIs? Did he say APIs? [10:53:03] atz | rsinger: biblios code is open source, .net is the reference implementation w/ APIs [10:53:16] * jtgorman will have to consider writing up a short journal article about this [10:53:20] jrochkind100 | Anyone sitting next to an OCLC manager? Are they fuming yet? [10:53:24] jwn | UnAPI != API? [10:53:24] mjg_ | rsinger: check yer gmail chat window thing. [10:53:26] rsinger | atz: i'm just referring to seb's earlier comment [10:53:27] jbrinley | akorphan: they don't already? I thought we had to reuse/invent exotic animals now [10:53:36] ---| ---> LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@47.sub-75-193-218.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [10:53:44] LibraryThingT | . [10:53:49] robcaSSon | jwn: correct [10:53:49] ecorrado | royt is biting his tounge [10:53:52] akorphan | jbrinley: That's why my product will be named "Snarkhoof" [10:53:56] * rsinger <- big ol a-wipe as usual [10:53:56] fak3r | enough with the data silos pictures, we get it! [10:53:56] fak3r | "get into the guts of the software itself..." [10:54:09] jrochkind100 | Well, it's confusing, but biblios.net is also a _database_, where biblios is a piece of software, a cataloging editor. [10:54:09] jrochkind100 | biblios.net is a database of library of metadata, which is all licensed open access. [10:54:12] mbklein | 996 ‡aBIBLIOSWRUP ‡iUse and transfer of this record is governed by the LibLime® Policy for Use and Transfer of biblios.net® Records [10:54:21] atz | rsinger: yeah, but seb's comment applied to "open APIs" on proprietary systems [10:54:21] atz | not open APIs on open source systems [10:54:31] royt | jrochkind100: why? go for it [10:54:36] kgs | who was commenting about the php.net documentation y'day? I can verify it's in Docbook, to answer a question that came up. [10:54:37] MikeTaylor | We need to start naming more products after dinosaurs. Especially sauropods. I am waiting for a Next-Gen OPAC called Futagnkosautrus. [10:54:43] mjg_ | @marc 996 [10:54:44] zoia | mjg_: WorldCat Record Use Policy Link (R) -- Field 996 contains the link to the WorldCat Record Use Policy. Field 996 is system generated. [a,i,u] [10:55:04] jrochkind100 | what am I going for? [10:55:06] LibraryThingT | Oh dear, he probably doesn't know all the problems there has been. [10:55:08] fak3r | live_online_demo-- [10:55:12] * royt stencils a 996 on mjg_'s forehead [10:55:17] robcaSSon | this is pazpar2 really, correct? [10:55:22] jbrinley | OK++ [10:55:24] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [10:55:26] royt | oh, oops, i don't actually *want* mjg_ [10:55:28] edsu | oaut would be nice [10:55:35] mjg_ | royt: just turn those first two 6es upside down [10:55:39] edsu | oauth [10:55:40] dbs | biblios.net++ [10:55:44] * mbklein never understood why a public standard (MARC) has a vendor-specific field. But whatever. :) [10:55:49] ---| <<-- mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-872bdc2f39966623] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:55:51] jwn | only 200 laptops and the internet is slow :( [10:55:54] lbjay | i had this great idea for a lightning talk last night and now can't extract it from my golden monkey-soaked brain [10:55:55] royt | mjg_++ [10:56:02] jrochkind100 | robcaSSon: The interesting thing here is the cooperative metadata store, with open access licensed data, and APIs for reading and writing. [10:56:14] royt | lbjay: lightning talk on white lightning [10:56:19] jfereira | golden_monkey++ [10:56:19] jrochkind100 | He did not do a good job of explaining why this matters. [10:56:24] dchud_ | didn't britney spears write a song about that? [10:56:28] robcaSSon | jrochkind100: no question...very cool [10:56:29] dbs | mbklein: is @marc pulling from loc.gov or oclc's version of the standard? [10:56:35] ecorrado | no 996 field in that record [10:56:41] fak3r | live demo typing out commands - hey, sounds like something I could get behind [10:56:50] jrochkind100 | It doesn't matter to me whether it's implemented with pazpar2 or whatever, who cares. [10:56:57] mjg_ | lbjay: you can do a linked data follow-up w/ my notes: http://lackoftalent.org/michael/linkeddata.html [10:56:58] lbjay | i wanted to do a see you next year version of anarchivist intro [10:57:02] LibraryThingT | dbs: Which standard? [10:57:07] jwn | nice monochromatic colorizin of the XML [10:57:13] akorphan | So he's demoing user-editability of data, yesno? [10:57:21] mbklein | dbs: @dunno. :) [10:57:24] abarrera | biblios.net-- # for emailing passwords upon signup [10:57:44] fak3r | speakers_beard-- [10:57:50] atz | abarrera: it's standard drupal stuff [10:57:51] rsinger | what's up with no visible timekeeping? [10:57:55] akorphan | summary_sentences++ # thanks, speaker dude. [10:58:04] ---| ---> highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cec73871d2411dd4] has joined #code4lib [10:58:11] lbjay | mjg_: nice [10:58:12] akorphan | rsinger: I think they have time flashcards for certain intervals. [10:58:29] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cf53f6d2b8ef56c8] has joined #code4lib [10:58:29] rsinger | akorphan: when i was speaking there was a countdown timer [10:58:29] bess | kados++ # that was awesome. [10:58:32] LibraryThingT | Do they eat UNIMARC? [10:58:32] lbjay | @mf mjg_ [10:58:34] zoia | Hey, mjg_... [10:58:34] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@137.110.16.22] has joined #code4lib [10:58:35] zoia | .-. [10:58:36] zoia | |-| [10:58:36] rsinger | which was, pretty awesome [10:58:37] zoia | | | [10:58:38] zoia | _.-|=|-. [10:58:39] zoia | / | | | | [10:58:40] zoia | | |\ [10:58:41] zoia | | / [10:58:42] zoia | \ /` [10:58:43] zoia | | | [10:58:43] rsinger | lol [10:58:50] ---| ---> JodiS [i=46a41938@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81b374aab5960e1c] has joined #code4lib [10:58:50] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0984adfc1883e234] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:58:51] jbrinley | rsinger: ecorrado wanted to use the computer [10:58:53] LibraryThingT | SRU-- [10:58:54] ---| ---> mpark [i=8094d869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f87d68b2b16e4b55] has joined #code4lib [10:58:56] akorphan | zia++ [10:58:59] akorphan | err, zoia++ [10:58:59] rsinger | jbrinley: so selfish [10:59:07] BigD | f the network [10:59:08] JodiS | network kinda flaky from where I'm sitting :( [10:59:11] JodiS | BigD++ [10:59:17] dbs | LibraryThingTim: MARC standard; looks like @marc plugin must pull from OCLC spec because http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdhome.html leaves the 9xx fields undocumented (as they are, indeed, for local use) [10:59:20] abarrera | lbjay++ [10:59:31] ---| ---> JodiS_ [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:59:31] dbs | err, MARC21 standard :) [10:59:32] rsinger | sru... [10:59:33] ecorrado | coutdown timer starts at 4 or so minuytres [10:59:34] Kerwick | BigD: I think someone already did... [10:59:41] akorphan | You know what an awesome browser plugin would be? [10:59:46] LibraryThingT | dbs: Hmmm. [10:59:46] mjg_ | lbjay: stop hatin' on the linked data. [10:59:46] BigD | Kerwick++ [10:59:46] gsf | @herald add gsf ‡♡ ☠ [10:59:47] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. [11:00:04] akorphan | Something that gave you some kind of nice interface to easily edit key/value pairs in a query string from the location bar [11:00:06] JodiS_ | akorphan: no, what [11:00:10] atz | I like that he's using Bess' record... it's like that dude dunking over dwight howard in the slam dunk competition [11:00:17] jrochkind100 | OCLC guidelines/standards are a de facto standard for most of us. oclc.org/bibformats [11:00:19] JodiS_ | ooh, that would be nice! [11:00:23] mjg_ | @herald get mjgiarlo [11:00:23] zoia | mjg_: ☃﹢☼ ➾ ☠﹢☹﹢☵ [11:00:24] edsu | dbs pulls from loc docs on the web [11:00:28] royt | gsf gets coolest herald award [11:00:51] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cdf91c03d086d29b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:01:04] ---| <<-- dcloutman_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-41.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [11:01:05] LibraryThingT | Someone should ask him if he's afraid of lawyers? [11:01:08] jrochkind100 | that was a hard to follow presentation, I'm afraid. [11:01:09] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:01:11] edsu | s/herald// [11:01:11] * royt squints at mjgiarlo's herald [11:01:16] rsinger | LibraryThingTim: you could [11:01:18] timmcgeary | lawyers-- [11:01:30] gsf | royt: not as cool as mjgiarlo [11:01:33] * lbjay agrees re: room [11:01:34] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [11:01:35] LibraryThingT | I was thinking of it. [11:01:50] ---| <<-- fak3r [n=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [11:01:52] ---| <<-- mib_xxmepy6r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-06bd762210e8c788] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:01:52] ---| <<-- fjt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d5ed52a67e00ab7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:01:53] LibraryThingT | The DMCA. [11:01:55] mbklein | dbs: It's not a live pull. There's a marcdoc.xml file in the plugin directory. I assume it's from OCLC. [11:01:57] BigD | mjg_ yer head needs bigger fonts so royt can see it [11:02:02] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bce56b884a4a5df1] has joined #code4lib [11:02:07] rsinger | LibraryThingTim: do it [11:02:10] mjg_ | royt: snowman + sun = death + sadness + water [11:02:10] lbjay | @rate microphones shouting [11:02:15] zoia | lbjay: microphones: 6.8; shouting: 8.9. shouting rocks! [11:02:16] LibraryThingT | Interesting: Does the DMCA cover such a thing? [11:02:17] gsf | version_history++ [11:02:26] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:02:27] edsu | mbklein: nope, it's something i created y scraping loc.gov [11:02:39] edsu | s/y/by/ [11:02:46] jrochkind100 | Well, yeah, the DMCA covers anything that you get a take down request for. [11:02:49] dchud_ | holy crap, my tests are passing [11:02:50] LibraryThingT | Oh, ouch. [11:02:58] royt | mjg_++ # for translating [11:03:01] jrochkind100 | You aren't legally required to comply with a takedown request, it just gives you a legal safe harbor if you do. [11:03:10] mbklein | Bring me zoia and the wookiee [11:03:10] mbklein | akorphan: You mean like the Poster plugin for Firefox? :) [11:03:10] ---| <<-- iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:03:11] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7691f4211addcb1c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:03:19] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c662c568f4cce390] has joined #code4lib [11:03:26] akorphan | mbklein: ooh, i'll have to check that out. [11:03:28] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c776c941ecfbd44] has joined #code4lib [11:03:31] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9718ce76a3589b77] has joined #code4lib [11:03:34] pmurray | mjg++ # For translation, too -- I couldn't quite get the last symbol [11:03:36] lbjay | @ana Bring me zoia and the wookiee [11:03:39] zoia | lbjay: I am a wheezing, obedient or OK [11:03:39] LibraryThingT | DMCA covers license—rather than copyright—allegations? [11:03:48] robcaSSon | most questions yet? [11:03:51] jrochkind100 | If you don't think the person issueing the takedown has the right to do so, you can ignore them -- and it can be decided in court, at which point you can be liable for the entire time you had it up. [11:03:56] rsinger | LibraryThingTim: WHY AREN'T YOU ASKING?! [11:04:00] edsu | http://inkdroid.org/svn/marcdoc/trunk/ [11:04:00] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [11:04:06] pmurray @quote add @ana Bring me zoia and the wookiee [11:04:07] zoia | pmurray: The operation succeeded. Quote #1742 added. [11:04:11] dchud_ | bring me the head of garcia, alfredo [11:04:12] * lbjay fears the rickroll [11:04:23] gsf | bummer about gmcharlt and the stomach sickness [11:04:26] pmurray | @rickcheck http://inkdroid.org/svn/marcdoc/trunk/ [11:04:27] zoia | pmurray: according to my sources at NASA, that was lost in DSpace [11:04:30] rsinger | bring me the head of garcia, andy [11:04:33] JodiS_ | lbjay++ [11:04:45] ---| ---> mib_xxmepy6r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cf4c6aaf78c43858] has joined #code4lib [11:04:46] LibraryThingT | rsinger: You ask. I'm burned. [11:04:47] gmcharlt | gsf: you're telling me :( was looking forward to the conference [11:04:48] akorphan | DMCA-- [11:04:50] dlovins | National_Library_of_Sweden++ [11:04:54] BigD | national library of pirate bay [11:05:01] jrochkind100 | LibraryThingTim: Ah, no, not neccesarily. I was assuming that whoever was issuing the takedown to biblios.net would _claim_ it was a copyright allegation. [11:05:01] jrochkind100 | sweden++ # seems like a nice country. [11:05:01] akorphan | arrr! [11:05:01] gsf | kados++ way to step in [11:05:01] gsf | sweden++ [11:05:02] JodiS_ | National_Library_of_Sweden++ [11:05:06] robcaSSon | BigD++ [11:05:08] ---| <<-- mib_xxmepy6r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cf4c6aaf78c43858] has quit (Client Quit) [11:05:12] edsu | anders++ [11:05:15] MikeTaylor | Longest question-time allowance yet. [11:05:17] JodiS_ | anders++ [11:05:19] ---| ---> saschel [n=saschel@212.224.185.66] has joined #code4lib [11:05:23] lbjay | @praise anders [11:05:24] zoia | anders++ [11:05:25] anarchivist | the only bad decision i've made at c4l09 so far was to anger the naragansetts [11:05:36] dchud_ | that's what he gets for finishing early! [11:05:41] pmurray | Someone sent biblios.net a DMCA take-down notice? [11:05:42] akorphan | YET [11:05:48] mjg_ | pmurray: last symbol = Korean, IIRC [11:05:52] ---| <<-- mpark [i=8094d869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f87d68b2b16e4b55] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:05:53] ---| <<-- highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cec73871d2411dd4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:05:53] ---| <<-- _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4270da6159a7121f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:06:01] * pmurray wishes even more that he was in Providence [11:06:10] jrochkind100 | NO, THERE ARE NO BUGGY PRORGRAMS. [11:06:10] jrochkind100 | Dude, we know better than anyone that there are buggy programs. [11:06:21] lbjay | bong! [11:06:29] rsinger | LibraryThingTim-- [11:06:36] jrochkind100 | good questions, audience++ [11:06:37] * akorphan predicts a future of metadata spam once Linked Data penetrates the commercial market [11:06:38] * pmurray goes back to writing inter-office memos [11:06:42] bess | kados is my hero [11:06:44] atz | kados++ [11:06:46] timmcgeary | audience_questions_++ [11:06:50] ejk | my code is *perfect* [11:07:00] jrochkind100 | akorphan: absolutely. [11:07:01] LibraryThingT | Isn't OCLC spamming the 996 field? [11:07:01] LibraryThingT | Go Chris: [11:07:01] LibraryThingT | (pouts) [11:07:05] MrDys | back-to-back bibliossssssssssssssssss [11:07:07] BigD | pmurray: i expect your TPS Report by noon [11:07:16] MikeTaylor | akorphan, your horribly credible prediction has ruined my day. [11:07:16] jrochkind100 | I guess spam is in the eye of the beholder. [11:07:37] royt | my code *sucks* [11:07:40] JodiS_ | metadata_spam-- [11:07:43] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-775e1b381b353cd1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:07:43] JodiS_ | but inevitable [11:07:45] robcaSSon | @hosts2010 [11:07:45] lbjay | ooh, couch [11:07:46] zoia | robcaSSon: Asheville, NC [227]; Austin, TX [220]; Madison, WI [180]; Columbus, OH [129]; Bloomington, IN [106] [11:07:53] * rsinger <- human bug generator [11:07:53] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c776c941ecfbd44] has quit (Client Quit) [11:07:54] fak3r | I'm outlagged today, can't post more than once every few mins it seems [11:08:10] gsf | @quote add Better to have linked and lost than never to have linked at all? NO! [11:08:11] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1743 added. [11:08:12] * jrochkind100 <- bug human generator [11:08:18] akorphan | MikeTaylor: I'll buy you a drink. [11:08:30] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [11:08:33] ---| <<-- saschel [n=saschel@212.224.185.66] has quit (Client Quit) [11:08:40] dchud_ | gsf: marcjson is failing test that checks field ordering now :( [11:08:41] abarrera | mjgiarlo generates bugs from his neck beard [11:08:54] ---| <<-- brownsica [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5a72fb832b84b249] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:08:57] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:09:03] mjg_ | mjg_-- # it took me three fucking e-mails to get the host voting info right. :) [11:09:04] zoia | <- Generator of human bugs [11:09:06] Kerwick | My code is like sausage - it's pretty good but you really don't want to see it made... [11:09:12] akorphan | too_fast_slides-- [11:09:12] rsinger | what's with the xml-aversion? [11:09:17] ecorrado | @hosts2010 [11:09:18] LibraryThingT | Why would you want to modify Biblios with JS plugins—just change the underlying ?Perl. No? [11:09:19] zoia | ecorrado: Asheville, NC [227]; Austin, TX [220]; Madison, WI [180]; Columbus, OH [129]; Bloomington, IN [106] [11:09:28] ecorrado | austin is closing in [11:09:34] dchud_ | rsinger: IT BURNS THE EYES [11:09:39] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8c49e63f7c33ada1] has joined #code4lib [11:09:48] akorphan | LibraryThingTim: I think it offers a lower bar for entry [11:09:49] rsinger | dchud_: put your goggles back on [11:09:57] timmcgeary | are there host lightning talks planned for later? [11:09:57] royt | rsinger: the aversion is to displaying XML in small, unreadable font sizes [11:09:58] lbjay | green_highlighting-- # although, i'd buy a sweater that color for sure [11:10:00] royt | Austin begins to close the gap [11:10:08] mjg_ | kados++ # good talk [11:10:09] dchud_ | rsinger: the goggles they do oh nevermind [11:10:11] edsu | didn't realize biblios client used google gears [11:10:12] gsf | xml_config_files-- [11:10:19] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-96098eb045007d93] has joined #code4lib [11:10:22] pmurray | royt: Columbus, too -- we're up 20 votes so far today! [11:10:37] ecorrado | columbus++ [11:10:37] ejk | any thoughts if asheville or austin would have better bandwidth? Asheville is Hotel, Austin is conf center, right? [11:10:38] JodiS_ | LibraryThingTim: I will learn javascript WELL before I learn Perl [11:10:39] pmurray | (Only 98 left to go...) [11:10:46] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b4010136c7d832fd] has joined #code4lib [11:10:53] MikeTaylor | YAML-config-files++ [11:10:57] ecorrado | bandwidth++ [11:10:59] edsu | wifi-- [11:11:02] wickr | ejk: no way to know at this point [11:11:04] akorphan | jquery++ # for making javascript bearable. [11:11:05] jbrinley | royt: any comments on wifi in columbus? [11:11:07] bjy | Madison is university :P [11:11:07] gsf | dchud_: edsu knows more about that test, but i'll look at it with you [11:11:15] edsu | convention_over_configuration++ [11:11:23] dchud_ | gsf: lemme see if i can post my branch locally [11:11:27] wickr | ejk: it was supposed to be really good here, they really pushed for it, not sure what happeneed [11:11:29] LibraryThingT | Can we get XML tags to move around like cats? [11:11:35] rjw | this guy talks faster than rsinger: [11:11:42] dchud_ | gsf: basically i wrote the same test that the xml does, checking that all the fields match in order [11:11:46] royt | jbrinley: sorry, i really can't say, I don't know what the exact situation would be [11:11:48] lbjay | i've had luck with the wifi by disconnecting and reconnecting to the network [11:11:48] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d6b317ac4bbfd94] has joined #code4lib [11:11:50] LibraryThingT | akorphan: I dunno. JS is harder to debug, I think. You never know what'll happen on Opera or whatever. [11:11:50] LibraryThingT | JodiS_: Good point. [11:11:51] LibraryThingT | future sense is a problem [11:11:52] gsf | bandwidth is all that matters [11:11:58] rsinger | dead_air-- [11:12:00] * jtgorman really doesn't want to have to convert his files to endnote/refworks formats... [11:12:03] lbjay | <-- captain cargo cult [11:12:04] ---| ---> asl2 [n=asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [11:12:07] mjg_ | timmcgeary: not that I've seen. last year they were kind of counter-productive. ;) [11:12:07] ---| ---> asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0bc24a1fcea007c6] has joined #code4lib [11:12:07] edsu | dchud: your bzr repo online? [11:12:09] mbklein | lbjay: I've had luck with that too. 3 times now. :D [11:12:17] akorphan | opera users deserve what they get. [11:12:18] royt | small_screenshots-- [11:12:20] dchud_ | BillDueber: i might need to move this {}-y json container for marc fields into a [] [11:12:24] JodiS_ | lbjay: disconnect/reconnect was what worked for me too [11:12:28] dchud_ | edsu: lemme try hold on [11:12:29] timmcgeary | mjg_: at least for one host... ;) [11:12:38] decasm_nomad | opera++ [11:12:42] BillDueber | dchud_: Make it so. [11:12:46] LibraryThingT | Acres. [11:12:54] ejk | 1) powerstrips 2) bndwidth 3) beer? [11:12:59] MikeTaylor | "XML is a giant step in no direction at all" -- Erik Naggum. [11:13:02] ---| ---> brownsica [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-652c3654e856c79c] has joined #code4lib [11:13:02] Baroquem | [11:13:07] royt | 4) profit! [11:13:09] lbjay | saw != could read [11:13:09] akorphan | seriously, though, I'm amazed that no browser can manage to meet the xhtml spec properly. [11:13:11] JodiS_ | Pretty please, can somebody find a timer besides ecorrado's laptop? [11:13:12] LibraryThingT | Hills. I want hills. [11:13:28] ---| ---> mib_74plycas [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cdb8f1cca87e7c1d] has joined #code4lib [11:13:33] bjy | Sheep. I want sheep. [11:13:35] ---| ---> soff [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-da97fd73112f5b01] has joined #code4lib [11:13:36] timmcgeary | @rate beer bandwidth [11:13:37] ecorrado | JodiS_: when you go up I'll look over royt shoulder [11:13:40] zoia | timmcgeary: beer: 8.5; bandwidth: 5.3. beer rocks! [11:13:48] MikeTaylor | ejk: 4) ??? 5) profit. [11:13:53] akorphan | @help rate [11:13:54] zoia | akorphan: (rate ...) -- Rates terms according to the criteria at http://www.sucks-rocks.com/ [11:13:57] jbrinley | I think Madison has sheep on hills [11:14:02] rsinger | @canuck I would like to try out the CouchDB Project from the Apache Foundation [11:14:03] zoia | rsinger: I would like to try oat the CoachDB Project from the Apawchee Foundation, eh? [11:14:15] MikeTaylor | @rate xml yaml [11:14:15] JodiS_ | ecorrado: it's a general need. the last 3 speakers have asked what time it is/how much is left. keynote, too. [11:14:18] zoia | MikeTaylor: xml: 3.2; yaml: 7.9. xml sucks! yaml rocks! [11:14:20] jbrinley | Bloomington has horses on hills [11:14:23] ecorrado | jbrinley: i don't know about sheep, but they have cows [11:14:26] bjy | jbrinley and cows [11:14:29] mjg_ | Austin's got mezcal which if nothing else will make you see hills. And skeletons and shit. [11:14:37] pmurray | @rate Columbus Austin Asheville Madison Indiana [11:14:38] LibraryThingT | I'm a tad lost... [11:14:40] liza31337 | RDBMS-- [11:14:44] zoia | pmurray: Columbus: 9.2; Austin: 9.0; Asheville: 9.5; Madison: 7.1; Indiana: 7.6. Asheville rocks! [11:14:48] jbrinley | everyone has cows [11:14:56] akorphan | Well there you go. [11:14:59] * JodiS_ read LibraryThing Tim as zoia's response to pmurray :) [11:15:02] mbklein | edsu++ Now that zoia's in the attendees list, all anyone needs to do to get linked now is make themselves @known. No more asking the crowd and waiting. (Moot now, but cool anyway.) [11:15:15] dchud_ | hey if i turn on web sharing on my new osx box where do i put a folder to make it visible via apache under my ~dchud path? [11:15:31] ---| ---> mib_o57zxi [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4cceb3018f850be] has joined #code4lib [11:15:33] mjg_ | mbklein: wow, neat, that is cool [11:15:34] LibraryThingT | Anyone else used CouchDB? [11:15:35] jbrinley | mbklein++ edsu++ [11:15:45] akorphan | I wonder if we could get zoia to spider the @known files and @know whoever's found. [11:15:52] mbklein | dchud_: /Users/dchud/Sites [11:15:53] ---| ---> mib_ig63wjjj [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2bad35374c0ab758] has joined #code4lib [11:15:55] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cf53f6d2b8ef56c8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:15:57] * lbjay used it for a toy project [11:15:59] dchud_ | LibraryThingTim: i've been experimenting with it but haven't built anything substantial with it yet [11:16:02] ---| ---> highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6075f7b58d658f74] has joined #code4lib [11:16:05] dchud_ | mbklein: todah [11:16:09] robcaSSon | LibraryThingTim: several of us have experimented a bit...yeah. [11:16:11] atz | @help known [11:16:12] zoia | atz: (known []) -- Returns the URI associated with the given nick. Defaults to the calling user. If no nick given, returns a list of nicks which have an associated URI. [11:16:13] ---| User: *** mib_ig63wjjj is now known as mouwd [11:16:14] gsf | totally cool, but i could use an online tutorial version of this talk [11:16:15] jbrinley | mbklein, edsu: why wasn't zoia showing up earlier? [11:16:23] atz | @known [11:16:25] LibraryThingT | It's like an OS bigtable? Never mind, I'll read the Wikipedia page :) [11:16:25] ---| ---> rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15a48409cb384f8a] has joined #code4lib [11:16:25] zoia atz: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [11:16:39] charper | mbklein++ edsu++ foaf++ [11:16:40] mbklein | jbrinley: The crawl stopped running Monday night, according to the log. [11:16:43] gsf | jbrinley: when? [11:16:44] mjg_ | gsf++ # yeah, kinda impossible to see any of these slides. [11:16:46] lbjay | gsf: me too [11:16:55] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-96098eb045007d93] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:16:59] anarchivist | @quote random [11:16:59] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1472: "< MrDys> oh look, another delusional job posting from Michigan" (added by anarchivist at 01:42 PM, August 04, 2008) [11:17:01] jrochkind100 | gsf: Ask him to write one for C4L Journal, we'd probably publish it (whether text, or audio/video, or a combination). [11:17:02] dlovins | edsu++ #thanks for getting my FOAF back on the list (though its the older version) :-) [11:17:03] royt | @know royt roytennant.com/foaf.rdf#me [11:17:04] zoia | royt: Error: 'roytennant.com/foaf.rdf#me' is not a valid url. [11:17:04] jbrinley | oh, that would explain it [11:17:08] atz | the description for @ known is wrong... it doesn't default to calling user [11:17:09] charper | zoia++ [11:17:11] royt | @know royt http://roytennant.com/foaf.rdf#me [11:17:11] dchud_ | gsf, edsu: http://10.7.55.99/~dchud/bzr/pymarc-dchud/ [11:17:12] zoia | royt: royt's URI is now [11:17:26] edsu | mbklein: awesome, someone noticed the crawler stopped running, was it mbklein? [11:17:31] timmcgeary | @hosts [11:17:32] * akorphan finds the overviews for a lot of these tools interesting, but the implementation details tend to be lost on him if he's not familiar with the tool to begin with. [11:17:32] zoia | timmcgeary: the opac is down right now, try amazon [11:17:35] anarchivist | edsu: yeah [11:17:36] royt | @known [11:17:37] zoia royt: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, royt, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [11:17:52] pmurray | @hosts2010 [11:17:53] gsf | ccatalfo: c4ljournal wants you to fill in for all the slacker mornos who flaked [11:17:54] zoia | pmurray: Asheville, NC [232]; Austin, TX [226]; Madison, WI [185]; Columbus, OH [134]; Bloomington, IN [109] [11:17:57] atz | edsu: i noticed too since I'm still not showing up on the page [11:17:58] lbjay | edsu: i noticed yest [11:18:05] rsinger | @hosts2011 [11:18:06] zoia | rsinger: Bald Head, Maine [91]; Cold Foot, Alaska [79]; Boring, Maryland [78]; ['Romance, Arkansas'] [78]; Yeehaw Junction, Florida [72]; ['Fearnot, Pennsylvania'] [70]; Jupiter, Florida [50]; Gun Barrel City, Texas [25] [11:18:06] anarchivist | dchud_: can't reach it [11:18:06] * edsu pulls [11:18:11] edsu | lbjay++ [11:18:12] ---| ---> mib_xjce2h63 [i=46a41941@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-633ca9f73ac43d52] has joined #code4lib [11:18:12] pmurray | @rate NC TX WI OH IN [11:18:19] dchud_ | anarchivist: try again now [11:18:21] akorphan | edsu: I don't show up but I'm not sure if it's because of the crawl or because of cazzerson's broken foaf [11:18:21] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Direct Export into RefWorks from Database Service || Matienzo, Mark: Make Me A Structured Vocabulary Or I’ll Make One For You [11:18:22] zoia | pmurray: NC: 9.0; TX: 9.8; WI: 9.0; OH: 7.4; IN: 9.7. TX rocks! [11:18:28] gsf | dchud_: not sure we can get to each other on any port on this crap network [11:18:37] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [11:18:38] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [235]; Austin, TX [228]; Madison, WI [187]; Columbus, OH [135]; Bloomington, IN [112] [11:18:40] pmurray | @rate Columbus Columbus Columbus Columbus Columbus [11:18:41] zoia | pmurray: Columbus: 9.2; Columbus: 9.2; Columbus: 9.2; Columbus: 9.2; Columbus: 9.2. Columbus rocks! [11:18:43] LibraryThingT | Does anyone want to use ‡Biblios on its own, separate from ‡Biblios.net? [11:18:53] mbklein | edsu: Yeah, that was me. [11:18:53] mbklein | akorphan: Only if the FOAF file contains a Freenode chat ID to use as a nick [11:18:53] mbklein | @known akorphan [11:18:54] zoia | mbklein: akorphan's URI is [11:19:01] dchud_ | can you see http://dchud-mba.local/~dchud/bzr/pymarc-dchud/ ? [11:19:03] miker_ | go asheville, go! [11:19:12] tomkeays | @known [11:19:12] zoia tomkeays: I know URIs for the following users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, royt, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [11:19:14] mbklein | @foaf akorphan interest [11:19:15] zoia | mbklein: akorphan : [11:19:18] dlovins | @known dlovins [11:19:19] zoia | dlovins: dlovins's URI is [11:19:24] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- # for spamming my email about this hosts voting crap [11:19:26] anarchivist | dchud_: nein [11:19:26] gsf | next year i'll bring some routers and we'll just do everything on our own intranet [11:19:39] dchud_ | my own private lan [11:19:39] timmcgeary | gsf++ [11:19:43] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit () [11:19:47] * akorphan has no interests. [11:19:48] gsf | lanaho? [11:19:49] BigD | flakynet-- [11:19:50] atz | gsf: i brought a 16 port switch and 250 ft. of cables [11:19:52] rosy1280 | JodiS++ [11:19:52] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ac4de10fd12d0d32] has joined #code4lib [11:19:55] dchud_ | i've been looking forward to this one! [11:19:56] ---| ---> _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aa2a71c2ae5f1343] has joined #code4lib [11:20:02] atz | LAN_party++ [11:20:02] mjg_ | kgs++ [11:20:04] edsu | dchud: yeah, can't see [11:20:06] gsf | atz: ok then! [11:20:09] anarchivist | kgs: you're so demanding [11:20:13] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit () [11:20:14] rsinger | @whatis Raymond Carver [11:20:14] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:20:18] mjg_ | JodiS++ wtd++ # keep on rockin' in the FRBR world [11:20:19] edsu | dchud: was encouraging wtd to do a one big library breakout today [11:20:19] anarchivist | kgs: truffles, face spritz, and now changing tapes [11:20:21] timmcgeary | tape_swap-- [11:20:22] LibraryThingT | kgs = monster! [11:20:24] zoia | rsinger: deathdate: 1988-08-02; period: 1958–1988; imagesize: 175px; occupation: Writer; label: Raymond Carver; forProperty: the darts player; forProperty: Ray Carver (darts player); comment: Raymond Clevie Carver, Jr. (May 25, 1938 – August 2, 1988) was an American short story writer and poet. Carver is considered a major American writer of the late 20th century and also a (1 more message) [11:20:25] akorphan | 60_min_DVC-- [11:20:26] gsf | c4l don't need no stinking internets [11:20:27] miker_ | quickdraw mcjodi [11:20:32] dchud_ | edsu: yeah i saw something about that in the scrollback [11:20:35] pmurray | gsf: PyCon Wireless Network - http://www.tummy.com/Community/Articles/pycon2007-network/ [11:20:39] rosy1280 | miker_++ [11:20:50] mbklein | How processor and memory efficient is the sleepycat store for rdflib? I'm thinking I might want to keep the whole graph cached, but I don't want to bring zoia or gsf's server to a crawl. [11:20:51] dchud_ | maybe we should do it in the bar [11:20:52] kgs | whew, these young'uns move faster than i do [11:20:56] ---| <<-- jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a177d39a667a70a1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:21:01] anarchivist | furbies++ [11:21:11] codemonkey | link broken - http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/frbr.pdf [11:21:11] gsf | dchud_: yeah, no luck at either url [11:21:15] dchud_ | LCCN PERMALINK REPRESENT [11:21:17] akorphan | "Where you from, Nash?" "Lots of different places." [11:21:32] bess | how do I upload my slides to the wiki? Where do I upload the PDF? [11:21:47] dchud_ | gsf, anarchivist: phooey [11:21:54] dchud_ | anarchivist: got a thumb drive? [11:21:56] atz | i like the big "Weak" [11:22:08] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b4010136c7d832fd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:22:08] LibraryThingT | dumas++ [11:22:10] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:22:11] ---| ---> ccatalfo [i=46a4197e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db3c2b90104db64d] has joined #code4lib [11:22:11] * gsf still wants to see "frenemy" in the relationship vocab [11:22:18] dchud_ | wtd has my favorite voice ever [11:22:26] gsf | because i hate that word [11:22:29] jbrinley | mbklein: I think the next step is to set up a web service, and just let zoia query it rather than thinking through everything herself [11:22:33] charper | wtd++ [11:22:43] dchud_ | gsf: how would that relate to frenefro? [11:22:47] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c375114412ebc6b] has joined #code4lib [11:23:13] rsinger | the fro of the enemy of my enemy is my hairstylist [11:23:14] mjg_ | wtd is good, but I have heard dbs described as having "the most beautiful man-voice." [11:23:15] LibraryThingT | gsf: Awesome. Suggest one that would work for. [11:23:15] BigD | frenemyoaf [11:23:15] jbrinley | mbklein: I think the next step is to set up a web service, and just let zoia query it rather than thinking through everything herself [11:23:15] LibraryThingT | Is "fuckfriend" a possible FRBR relationship? [11:23:17] kgs | concur on wtd's voice [11:23:21] kgs | luv frbr [11:23:31] ---| ---> jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0987faa9679d1981] has joined #code4lib [11:23:36] kgs | LibraryThingTim-- [11:23:39] anarchivist | foafwb [11:23:39] dchud_ | Kim Stanley Robinson is a particularly nice guy [11:23:44] BigD | LibraryThingTim: not without a really nice dinner [11:23:45] LibraryThingT | kgs++ [11:23:54] jbrinley | mbklein: maybe set something up on google app engine (could be a way for me to learn how to use that) [11:23:56] dchud_ | dbs's voice is definitely sexy [11:24:06] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:24:14] steambadger | foafwb++ [11:24:17] mjg_ | dbs could do action movie commercials [11:24:19] kgs | dbs could do radio [11:24:21] bess | dbs's_voice++ [11:24:25] pmurray | LibraryThingTim: And never on a first date. [11:24:29] dchud_ | gsf, edsu: reduced to usb stick sharing. works, though [11:24:37] mjg_ | "IN A WORLD GONE MAD, FROSTBACK OPAC IS AN ISLAND OF SANITY." [11:24:42] ---| ---> cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has joined #code4lib [11:24:47] timmcgeary | we need a code4lib voice over [11:24:48] LibraryThingT | What never? (No never!) What never? [11:24:55] akorphan | Well, hardly ever. [11:24:59] BillDueber | jrochkind100++, apparently [11:25:02] LibraryThingT | akorphan++ [11:25:05] rsinger | fro-out to the jrock! [11:25:07] dchud_ | mjg_++ [11:25:10] dlovins | jrochkind++ [11:25:13] BigD | THIS is c4l - Darth Vader [11:25:14] anarchivist | foafro++ [11:25:50] anarchivist | sneakernet++ [11:25:51] kgs | love the first-sentence feature (that's also a feature in Poets & Writers magazine) [11:26:02] LibraryThingT | Well, ISTC. [11:26:08] timmcgeary | "FRBR - Not your mother's four-letter-acronym" [11:26:11] mbklein | mjg_: "In a world...Where a-paw-tchee servers run wild..." [11:26:22] gsf | be nice if somebody from openlibrary.org were here this year [11:26:24] kgs | strong_frbrization++ [11:26:29] gsf | guess we have to go to them :) [11:26:45] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e9f834e95428dc7] has joined #code4lib [11:26:47] rsinger | serials-- [11:26:47] dchud_ | these two win the "best voices" award [11:26:47] LibraryThingT | Wait a second, LibraryThing has work id numbers. (sulk) [11:26:48] jbrinley | @ana strong frbrization [11:26:48] abarrera | BigD once slept with a FRBR [11:26:49] zoia | jbrinley: First razing to born [11:27:05] BigD | abarrera: it was weak [11:27:06] akorphan | Translate_slovenian("FRBR") = "FZBZ" [11:27:06] LibraryThingT | It can never be strong, though. These concepts MUST be fluid. [11:27:21] atz | i think they sound better after chris c.'s very mild presentation style [11:27:37] kgs | to be strong is not to be rigid [11:27:40] abarrera | abarrera-- [11:27:45] dchud_ | did Nate write those? are you in here, Nate? [11:28:16] edsu | i see nate in the room, but not sure about irc [11:28:17] LibraryThingT | What does that use, the OCLC algorithm? [11:28:17] LibraryThingT | Erasmus++ [11:28:17] jbrinley | @quote add to be strong is not to be rigid [11:28:19] zoia | jbrinley: The operation succeeded. Quote #1744 added. [11:28:19] jrochkind100 | They present well, yeah. [11:28:20] ---| <<-- vett [n=chatzill@128.151.189.132] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") [11:28:27] kgs | hah! LTT beat me to it [11:28:48] anarchivist | http://www.museumssuck.com/ [11:28:54] ---| ---> messyp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-16.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:28:58] kgs | JodiS++ # for not using edge cases [11:29:00] gsf | gmail_basic_html_view++ nice for this network [11:29:00] dchud_ | we should do a code4lib version of hamlet [11:29:05] jwn | FRBR should use longer words to describe the different layers [11:29:17] lbjay | @reload Assorted [11:29:18] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. [11:29:26] jrochkind100 | Oh, I hope they mention the set-algebra based conceptualization. So much clearer. [11:29:38] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d6b317ac4bbfd94] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:29:38] royt | alas! Poor mjgiarlo, I knew him well [11:29:39] akorphan | jwn: Wooooooorrrrrrk.... [11:29:44] dchud_ | we can't catalog like this without big multitouch UIs [11:29:50] lbjay | @inaworld you can be friend's with a friend's fro [11:29:50] zoia | In a world... where you can be friend's with a friend's fro [11:29:53] kgs | dchud_ maybe we could go a level higher and do generic Shakespeare tragedy, c4l-style [11:29:54] anarchivist | dchud_: that's what josh greenberg thinks [11:30:09] BigD | he was a man of infinite jest, and bad facial hair [11:30:12] rsinger | lbjay++ [11:30:13] LibraryThingT | Praise of Folly is a good example of a problem—he revised it a bunch. [11:30:17] dchud_ | kgs: are you ... wait, do you mean ... OBJECT-ORIENTED SHAKESPEARE MODELING? [11:30:19] rosy1280 | VTLS does something right? [11:30:27] rosy1280 | VTLS does something right? [11:30:27] mbklein | lbjay++ [11:30:31] jrochkind100 | VTLS does FRBR right, yeah. [11:30:32] gsf | dchud_: tom-cruise-minority-report-style cataloging [11:30:35] mbklein | @inaworld [quote] [11:30:35] kgs | dchud_ does that have something to do with speaker permission forms? [11:30:35] dchud_ | lbjay++ [11:30:36] zoia | In a world... where http://www.zedshaw.com/images/sidebar.png [11:30:38] jrochkind100 | Won't save them though. [11:30:47] anarchivist | gsf, dchud_ : csi miami style cataloging [11:30:48] mbklein | @inaworld [quote random] [11:30:49] zoia | In a world... where Quote #301: "* ksclark1 wonders why amish monkeys" (added by dchud at 05:47 PM, May 12, 2006) [11:30:51] rsinger | @whatis Don LaFontaine [11:30:53] zoia | rsinger: ' name: Don LaFontaine; id: 1273; id: 156530; id: 480963; youtubeProperty: Five Guys In a Limo (Short film with Don LaFontaine); youtubeProperty: 7QPMvj_xejg; youtubeProperty: Don LaFontaine: The Voice; youtubeProperty: JQRtuxdfQHw; dateOfDeath: 2008-09-01; comment: Donald LaFontaine (August 26, 1940 – September 1, 2008) was an American voiceover artist famous for (3 more messages) [11:30:55] anarchivist | oh wait, that's not cataloging, that's metadata [11:30:58] timmcgeary | who do I send my presentation slides to for the c4l conference site? [11:30:59] akorphan | Is there a really good reason for Group 2 not to be a subset of Group 3? [11:31:01] lbjay | @inaworld [zen] [11:31:03] dchud_ | cataloging by analyzing blood splatters under blacklights [11:31:03] zoia | In a world... where I'd like to offer something to help you but in the zen school we don't have a single thing! [11:31:06] rjw | frbr_in_a_box++ [11:31:12] jbrinley | timmcgeary: royt [11:31:13] kgs | hey be nice. VTLS UG invited me to speak to their group. (true) [11:31:30] * anarchivist puts his group 2 entity in a box [11:31:30] bess | jbrinley: we just send him the slides by email? [11:31:31] LibraryThingT | It will never fit together. [11:31:37] mbklein | @inaworld [obama] [11:31:38] zoia | In a world... where BARACK OBAMA RELATES TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING [11:31:40] royt | timmcgeary: roytennant@gmail.com [11:31:40] akorphan | step 1: cut a hole in the box... [11:31:46] ejk | RIP Don LaFontaine [11:31:50] ---| ---> naomi [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-40a6597b8eab6304] has joined #code4lib [11:31:53] mbklein | akorphan++ Still not old [11:31:54] BillDueber | Nobody puts baby in a group 2 entity box [11:31:54] timmcgeary | jbrinley, royt: thanks [11:31:58] kgs | "open your code! free the kittens!" [11:32:00] ---| <<-- MikeTaylor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3ae09a33a4e2a33e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:32:07] jrochkind100 | Um, http://ifla/namespaces is not a very good HTTP URI. [11:32:09] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e5633f0e78c20c05] has joined #code4lib [11:32:14] gsf | iand++ [11:32:14] * bess is so glad the dick in a box skit hadn't come out the year I gave the "library in a box" talk [11:32:17] mbklein | ejk: Have you seen the great video with LaFontaine and a bunch of other voice over guys in a limo? [11:32:18] anarchivist | jrochkind100: you're such a hater [11:32:18] kgs | wtd++ [11:32:25] mjg_ | wtd++ [11:32:31] anarchivist | wtd++ [11:32:34] akorphan | Every time he says "three musketeers" I think of a candybar. [11:32:36] mbklein | bess++ for understanding through her gratitude that it would have been funny anyway [11:32:36] dchud_ | bess: small victories [11:32:36] LibraryThingT | Free kittens are so unappealing. Couldn't they be puppies? [11:32:37] rsinger | Talis, "We're half of two guys with a website" [11:32:39] timmcgeary | lol@bess [11:32:47] BigD | akorphan: me2! [11:32:53] mbklein | :) [11:32:58] ejk | mbklein: no, I'll have to look that up on youtube... next week, I guess [11:33:00] jrochkind100 | WE ARE ALL SWEDES NOW. [11:33:00] ---| <<-- dsuchy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-265b9269db819680] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:33:09] timmcgeary | bess: but that is one of the funniest skits in a long time (well, before Palin) [11:33:14] LibraryThingT | yeah, sweden++ [11:33:17] atz | Sweden++ [11:33:17] BillDueber | I want to screw around with rdf. I need to painlessly set up a triplestore. What should I use? [11:33:21] ---| <<-- _ksclarke [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aa2a71c2ae5f1343] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:33:31] * gsf is nostalgic for the free goats talk [11:33:37] dchud_ | BillDueber rdflib and sqlite? [11:33:43] anarchivist | dchud_++ [11:33:45] BigD | BillDueber: painless? hmmm [11:33:46] rsinger | BillDueber: HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR? [11:33:47] naomi | drugs [11:33:49] jrochkind100 | IF. [11:33:57] naomi | use drugs, bill [11:34:02] rsinger | i need some sort of script for that [11:34:09] rsinger | like gsf and dvorak [11:34:10] lbjay | rsinger++ # also never old [11:34:12] BigD | BillDueber: we started with oracle, then went to allegrograph [11:34:12] atz | mbklein: i always like the pablo fanscisco version of LaFontaine [11:34:16] BillDueber | rsinger: For three easy payments of $19.95? Two. [11:34:20] mbklein | ejk: FOR LATER :) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4140336457689009151 [11:34:21] jrochkind100 | Yeah, nice, FRBR _is_ about linked data. You've got to know what you're linking before you can link it. [11:34:23] dchud_ | i really like the way they're contextualizing all these big issues with what's out there now [11:34:23] LibraryThingT | Right, but tags could never fit into the FRBR schema—they include degree and perspective. [11:34:23] mjg_ | royt: alas? what has happened to me? [11:34:27] BigD | allegrograph is free for less than 50M triples [11:34:29] akorphan | Wait, what's the difference between frbr in and not in the box? [11:34:29] gsf | rsinger: that's just a dunno [11:34:36] rjw | BillDueber: http://n2.talis.com [11:34:37] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit () [11:34:39] akorphan | is it just linked-dataable? [11:34:39] * mjg_ was off trying to be helpful for once. [11:34:41] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: yeah, and tags SHOULDN'T [11:34:42] LibraryThingT | dchud_: Exactly. well done. [11:34:48] * anarchivist is starting to really fucking hate tags [11:34:51] rsinger | @dunno search dvorak [11:34:53] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #19: "your problem is you're not on dvorak" [11:34:58] royt | mjg_: oops, maybe it isn't your skull i have in my hand after all [11:35:00] naomi | bill: i've heard good things about mulgara [11:35:03] mbklein | step 2: put your manifestation in the box... [11:35:05] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [11:35:06] jwn | Y does frbr:work have to hasassubject lines? [11:35:10] lbjay | it's like they practiced [11:35:11] LibraryThingT | anarchivist: that's nice [11:35:16] akorphan | I wonder what a Swedish dvorak keyboard would be like.... [11:35:16] rsinger | BillDueber: there are no good things about installing mulgara [11:35:24] gsf | @dunno add HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR? [11:35:25] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Dunno #303 added. [11:35:25] jrochkind100 | jwn: No, it does not _have_ to. [11:35:33] BigD | naomi: also have heard good stuff about mulgara [11:35:37] naomi | bill: what can i say ... i'm ignorant [11:35:38] rsinger | gsf++ [11:35:40] gsf | rsinger: you're welcome [11:35:40] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: but i aminterested in how to express user-contrib metadata in a linkable way [11:35:42] atz | "You will be assimila^W FRBRized." [11:35:48] Kerwick | akorphan: Heisenberg's uncertainty principle [11:36:02] ---| <<-- ccatalfo [i=46a4197e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db3c2b90104db64d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:36:11] mjg_ | @band add Funky FRBR Algorhythms [11:36:12] zoia | mjg_: Band 'Funky FRBR Algorhythms' added to list [11:36:20] jrochkind100 | good talk. [11:36:21] LibraryThingT | Neurons are linked data, but they're of different strengths and in different skulls. [11:36:23] cbeer | anarchivist: we've tried that using tagging prompts to linked data sources [11:36:24] atz | good closing [11:36:24] BigD | BillDueber: find esme cowles here, he's messed with a lot of them [11:36:26] BillDueber | Hmmmm. rdflib. Step 1. BillDueber learns Python. # been needing an excuse [11:36:26] gsf | akorphan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svorak [11:36:27] timmcgeary | good talk, great voices [11:36:31] akorphan | Kerwick: you... don't know if it's frbrized until you open the box? [11:36:32] liza31337 | Cool, now I know what FRBR is [11:36:33] LibraryThingT | Good content. Awesome presentaton. [11:36:37] jstroop | BillDueber: I like http://jena.sourceforge.net/ [11:36:41] naomi | bill: look at MPTstore [11:36:42] rosy1280 | JodiS++ wtd++ [11:36:47] Kerwick | akorphan: exactly :-) [11:36:53] atz | Jodi++ [11:36:53] dchud | JodiS++ wtd++ [11:37:02] rosy1280 | look at the line for frbr questions [11:37:03] akorphan | My life will not be complete until my keyboard has 3 'A' keys. [11:37:04] rosy1280 | crazy! [11:37:12] dlovins | JodiS++ wtd++ [11:37:24] abarrera | talking_over_each_other-- [11:37:29] gsf | royt++ for converting slides to pdf and all that [11:37:29] akorphan | Those swedes love their vowels. [11:37:30] edsu | JodiS++ [11:37:35] charper | anarchivist, LibraryThingTim: http://dcpapers.dublincore.org/ojs/pubs/article/viewArticle/925 "The State of the Art in Tag Ontologies: A Semantic Model for Tagging and Folksonomies" [11:37:37] jchen | JodiS++ [11:37:45] anarchivist | charper++ [11:38:00] anarchivist | charper: i need to get your point of view about some of this social metadata WG stuff [11:38:03] ---| <<-- mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8c49e63f7c33ada1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:38:08] edsu | wtd++ [11:38:12] LibraryThingT | I wish the first step were weak FRBRization and more more more more more of it. [11:38:38] * bess now wants to add a .rdf stream to all our catalog records [11:38:47] gsf | akorphan: not sure if i agree with that layout. above the left pinky is not a good place for a vowel. they should have moved the "p" [11:39:03] ---| <<-- jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f1e204f28f255536] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:39:10] jbrinley | bess++ # please do [11:39:15] akorphan | gsf: Can't say as I've ever typed anything in Swedish, so I don't really know. [11:39:35] jfereira | meatballs [11:39:38] robcaSSon | bess++ # and pretty low-barrier, since you've got good control of your views [11:39:50] akorphan | gsf: Though having all the vowels on one side might work if the language tends to alternate consonants and vowels. [11:39:53] rsinger | oh well, no question from me, i guess [11:39:56] edsu | http://inkdroid.org/images/frbr.jpg [11:40:00] cbeer | anarchivist: have you seen http://mqlx.com/freebase-suggest/examples/suggest_demo_tagging.html ? [11:40:02] BigD | bess: hmm, isn't that going backward? "records" is old school. convert records to triples, and render "records" with xsl transforms [11:40:03] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c375114412ebc6b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:40:04] ---| <<-- tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-abcd62a25e3eaafd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:40:04] ---| <<-- mib_74plycas [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cdb8f1cca87e7c1d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:40:16] lbjay | @hosts2010 [11:40:18] zoia | lbjay: Asheville, NC [247]; Austin, TX [228]; Madison, WI [193]; Columbus, OH [137]; Bloomington, IN [116] [11:40:18] abarrera | jodis++ wtd++ [11:40:24] * charper likes conceptualizing work-set algorithms as weak frbr-ization [11:40:29] bess | BigD: your proposal is out of scope. :) [11:40:31] lbjay | JodiS++ wtd++ [11:40:35] mjg_ | @rickcheck http://inkdroid.org/images/frbr.jpg [11:40:36] zoia | mjg_: i think the property you're looking for is http://open.vocab.org/terms/rtfm.html [11:40:40] timmcgeary | Asheville is pulling away [11:40:49] fak3r | bing [11:40:49] akorphan | hills++ [11:40:51] anarchivist | cbeer: no - thanks [11:41:02] ---| ---> jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81851996f622836b] has joined #code4lib [11:41:02] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e9f834e95428dc7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:41:08] lbjay | mjg_: have you approved a lot of new regs today? [11:41:11] naomi | ooo - presentation to end users considered [11:41:22] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-355db80692f81e87] has joined #code4lib [11:41:22] rjw | biblios as a frbr host? [11:41:24] mjg_ | lbjay: I have approved 0. wickr may have? [11:41:25] BigD | bess++ [11:41:29] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-355db80692f81e87] has quit (Client Quit) [11:41:29] ---| <<-- jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81851996f622836b] has quit (Client Quit) [11:41:34] ecorrado | end users... who cares about them [11:41:41] wickr | lbjay: yeah a bunch [11:41:43] lbjay | @higfive JodiS_ [11:41:45] zoia | lbjay: UP WITH WHICH I WILL NOT PUT [11:41:46] LibraryThingT | I have to say, I think that article washes tags through an intellectual structure that doesn't quite grasp it. [11:41:55] dchud | the international presence this year is amazing [11:41:57] LibraryThingT | Once it gets into the water table... [11:41:58] rosy1280 | more accents [11:42:01] akorphan | awesome_accents++ [11:42:04] ---| <<-- jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0987faa9679d1981] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:42:09] * ecorrado still not convinced endusers care about frbr [11:42:16] atz | Denmark++ [11:42:21] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e9384e62709d7a6] has joined #code4lib [11:42:21] ---| ---> dcloutman [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-41.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:42:22] akorphan | lego++ [11:42:23] jfereira | In our world... [11:42:29] timmcgeary | accents++ [11:42:29] naomi | ecorrado: humanities scholars can care about frbr [11:42:31] abarrera | summa is warma then winta [11:42:40] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65da84d207c78e76] has joined #code4lib [11:42:42] naomi | dang humanities scholars - they're always messing things up. [11:42:44] akorphan | ecorrado: They care about it if it aids discovery, even if they don't know it exists. [11:42:49] * timmcgeary thinks he might need to do a talk next year in his Pittsburghese accent [11:42:52] robcaSSon | ecorrado: they may not care about frbr, but they definitely want better grouping than we have now [11:42:55] fak3r | heartburn-- [11:43:06] ---| ---> mib_rde6b9 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33a1e105dc3b83a6] has joined #code4lib [11:43:13] robcaSSon | timmcgeary++ # yinz [11:43:15] mbklein | timmcgeary: Yunz needs FRBRized [11:43:27] ---| User: *** royt is now known as ecorrado2 [11:43:33] mjg_ | end-users also don't care about some of the distinctions libraries make btwn manifestations, expressions, works, so I'd like to see the walls broken down a bit. [11:43:35] LibraryThingT | This room contains all important people. [11:43:35] LibraryThingT | wtd+= 10 [11:43:35] mjg_ | frbr++ [11:44:02] ---| ---> iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9cbc687300aa260f] has joined #code4lib [11:44:04] ---| <<-- highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6075f7b58d658f74] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:44:05] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-78.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:44:07] ---| ---> tholbroo [n=tholbroo@hs72260.lib.sfu.ca] has joined #code4lib [11:44:09] LibraryThingT | I'm surprised they didn't mention the International Standard Text Code. Did I miss it? [11:44:23] edsu | me too [11:44:23] JodiS_ | codemonkey: sorry, wanted to get the PDF up BEFORE the presentation. changes + bandwidth = FAIL. Will work on that (and maybe change the URL) later. [11:44:25] naomi | hey! what about user driven development! :-x [11:44:28] ecorrado2 | robcaSSon: better groupings maybe, but most of them just want the last step, the last mile [11:44:30] * rjw waves at iand [11:44:31] LibraryThingT | frbr: Check out the next time you have holds on X but Y is available—and they're the same work. [11:44:32] LibraryThingT | Wait, can I change my name to royt2? [11:44:34] lbjay | anarchivist: i'm still thinking about horton's, but the timing would be tight [11:44:34] mib_rde6b9 | anybody know what screen resolution the projector supports? [11:44:37] LibraryThingT | Is FRBR useful for collection development/weeding? I'd bet it could be. [11:44:48] anarchivist | lbjay: doable with a cab? [11:44:51] akorphan | mjg_: End users don't care about the item level until the moment they click on a link or go to the shelf. [11:44:54] ejk | lego++ [11:44:54] lbjay | i have a car [11:44:57] edsu | also viaf, would be interesting to chat w/ crossref guy about ids for peeps [11:45:00] anarchivist | lbjay: aight [11:45:01] rsinger | i'm more in the realm of duplo development [11:45:11] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1158c86e1f91b767] has joined #code4lib [11:45:14] lbjay | i just don't want to miss any of erikhatcher [11:45:20] LibraryThingT | OO-- [11:45:23] mjg_ | edsu: on my to-do list too [11:45:25] ---| ---> jrochkind101 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ff17101ae40b3705] has joined #code4lib [11:45:25] ---| ---> mib_gpdr8p19 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1af2db480ab903e4] has joined #code4lib [11:45:27] lbjay | @rate duplo lego [11:45:29] timmcgeary | at the dahntahn library up the crick, our records need fixed. yinz put your babushkas on, grab an irn city [11:45:32] zoia | lbjay: duplo: 9.8; lego: 10.0. lego rocks! [11:45:36] gsf | wooden_blocks++ [11:45:37] jbrinley | 1024x768, I think [11:45:42] rjw | OhOh++ [11:45:56] MrDys | timmcgeary: it's 'arn' [11:46:04] ecorrado2 | LibraryThingTim: maybe, but i;m not sure... our last copy shared collection development model as is wouldn't benefit, but maybe in theoty it could [11:46:04] ---| <<-- bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9718ce76a3589b77] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:46:06] naomi | i blew it - now i'll never know what people said about my lightning talk ... dang. joined irc too late. [11:46:08] LibraryThingT | lego_mindstorms++ [11:46:19] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-746a6cfc50a2b51e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:46:30] rsinger | duplo_mindstorm [11:46:31] edsu | i wish more talks wer like this [11:46:32] lbjay | lots of info in that slide [11:46:33] liza31337 | I am pretending every one of these sentences is a question. [11:46:37] timmcgeary | MrDys: oh you're from /that/ side of the city, huh? [11:46:42] edsu | i know i have no life though [11:46:43] naomi | lots of NUMBERS in that slide. [11:46:54] JodiS_ | LibraryThingTim: your "work IDs" aren't for FRBR works (not sure OpenLibrary's are either at the moment) [11:46:54] timmcgeary | lincoln_logs++ [11:46:56] MrDys | timmcgeary: the clearly better side, yep [11:47:02] akorphan | pointers_to_pointers+- [11:47:05] jfereira | naomi: but it does have bacon and puppies [11:47:07] BigD | naomi: and colors [11:47:11] akorphan | bacon++ [11:47:13] timmcgeary | MrDys: seriously, though, you from da burg? [11:47:13] naomi | LOL [11:47:15] robcaSSon | jfereir++ # beta me to it [11:47:16] ---| User: *** ecorrado2 is now known as roiyt [11:47:19] mjg_ | liza31337++ [11:47:19] ---| User: *** roiyt is now known as royt [11:47:19] timmcgeary | s/burg/burgh [11:47:21] MrDys | timmcgeary: Bethel Park [11:47:23] rosy1280 | lunch: wraps, greek salad, traditional greek salad, potato salad [11:47:24] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e766a604fe52487f] has joined #code4lib [11:47:28] robcaSSon | s/beta/beat/ [11:47:28] royt | i don't have a clue what he's talking about [11:47:58] akorphan | Youah cahbretta's broke, oah maybe you need new spahkplugs. [11:48:01] timmcgeary | MrDys: New Kensington [11:48:05] BillDueber | royt++ ; I looked down for a couple minutes and now it's like the third season of LOST [11:48:05] ---| <<-- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-566f0492dd28528f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:48:05] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65da84d207c78e76] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:48:06] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Brickley, Dan: On the internet, no-one knows. [11:48:06] BigD | royt: me2 [11:48:09] akorphan | Djeetyet? Squeet! [11:48:12] ---| User: *** royt is now known as ecorrado2 [11:48:32] lbjay | royt: me neither but it's completely facetingating [11:48:32] edsu | i take it back, i like all the presentations ... edsu = morno [11:48:35] LibraryThingT | ecorrado2: Worth trying, maybe. On the other hand, it might mean libraries start throwing out first editions in favor of Dovers. [11:48:35] ecorrado2 | any pre-lunch announcements? [11:48:35] LibraryThingT | Is this a lag? [11:48:37] liza31337 | "Another search engine?" I dunno, you tell me [11:48:42] naomi | did he say why solr didn't meet his needs? [11:48:42] ejk | @ana duplo mindstorms [11:48:43] zoia | ejk: Trim odd sons lump [11:48:46] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2dd5f1c810ca43e] has joined #code4lib [11:48:47] abarrera | BigD: the only time you aren't lost, is when you are at a buffet [11:48:50] JodiS_ | @quote add Talis, "We're half of two guys with a website" [11:48:51] zoia | JodiS_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [11:49:09] mjg_ | abarrera: and then the food is lost [11:49:16] iand | wow this really is geek level 6 [11:49:17] LibraryThingT | JodiS_: Do you mean they're on wrong level, or that the model of connection (social) is different? [11:49:35] ---| ---> eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3d94cc34d050f548] has joined #code4lib [11:49:38] BigD | subscripts, so it must be smart [11:49:39] * iand feels his geek juices rising [11:49:40] JodiS_ | @quote add Talis, "We're half of two guys with a website" [11:49:41] zoia | JodiS_: The operation succeeded. Quote #1745 added. [11:49:42] naomi | give him credit for speaking in a second language [11:49:46] * bess is feeling stupider by the minute. [11:49:52] timmcgeary | MrDys: should we try to get a Pittsburgh c4l and serve Primanti's for lunch? [11:49:54] naomi | I think i can manage "donde esta el baño?" [11:49:54] gsf | so this is their custom setup for faceting with lucene? [11:49:55] mib_gpdr8p19 | geek threat advisory level is ELEVATED [11:50:05] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e9384e62709d7a6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:50:05] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1158c86e1f91b767] has quit (Client Quit) [11:50:08] lbjay | @quote search star trek [11:50:09] steambadger | His English is quite a bit better than my Danish. [11:50:10] rosy1280 | the graphs are pretty colors [11:50:11] MrDys | timmcgeary: not living there currently, but yes, primantis is always acceptable [11:50:12] anarchivist | primantis++ [11:50:12] zoia | lbjay: 1 found: #1729: "< MrDys> this is some star trek shit" [11:50:19] lbjay | @quote get 1729 [11:50:20] zoia | lbjay: Quote #1729: "< MrDys> this is some star trek shit" (added by gsf at 01:55 PM, February 24, 2009) [11:50:21] jfereira | cervesa por favor [11:50:23] steambadger | By a factor of infinity, actually. [11:50:23] mbklein | steambadger++ exactly [11:50:25] robcaSSon | primantis++ [11:50:26] ecorrado2 | does anyone know if lightning talks are full? [11:50:27] BigD | mmm, danish [11:50:31] bjy | mib_gpdr8p19 is the level color orange? :P [11:50:35] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-402c2fa15a5c32f2] has joined #code4lib [11:50:36] timmcgeary | MrDys: neither am I, but doesn't stop me from wanting to go back [11:50:37] * robcaSSon could go for a cappicola/fried-egg right now [11:50:41] timmcgeary | primantis++ [11:50:43] eby_ | fixed a couple of the slides url on the schedule [11:50:46] akorphan | ecorrado2: There were two crossed-off ones on the front page, at least one of which was re-filled [11:50:48] rosy1280 | ecorrado2 yes they are...filling up for tomorrow too [11:50:53] akorphan | ecorrado2: but don't know about the others [11:50:54] robcaSSon | and an Iron City [11:50:57] naomi | you folks are a TOUGH audience. [11:50:59] JodiS_ | LibraryThingTim: sure, you're different than IFLA FRBR b/c Greek Illiad <> English Illiad. But mostly seems like the wrong level. Last time I looked (2 yrs ago?) you had identifiers per manifestation, grouped by crazy-awesome librarythingers into works... May have changed. [11:51:08] JodiS_ | naomi: we *are* a tough audience. you rocked yesterday [11:51:12] timmcgeary | hanging out in the strip, too [11:51:27] naomi | JodiS_ thanks! [11:51:29] JodiS_ | though-- code4lib++ (awesome FRBR crowd ) [11:51:34] LibraryThingT | naomi: Good point. We should require everyone to do that. [11:51:34] LibraryThingT | There was one slot open at coffee. [11:51:37] fak3r | "One single machine never scales" <- gold [11:51:41] mjg_ | This is awesome, like an information_retrieval crash course. [11:51:42] jfereira | birra, per favore [11:51:48] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [11:51:52] bess | naomi++ # I loved your lightning talk. And I'm really psyched about shelf lists and proper call number ordering in solrmarc. [11:52:06] edsu | ead, coincidence? [11:52:06] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ac4de10fd12d0d32] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:52:17] timmcgeary | edsu++ [11:52:18] LibraryThingT | JodiS_: Talk to me in person. Some conversations are too rich to put in text. [11:52:18] rosy1280 | no more ead [11:52:20] LibraryThingT | (Not a criticism. I just can't follow you.) [11:52:25] naomi | bess: thanks. call number --> shelving key code in solrmarc 2.0 [11:52:28] ecorrado2 | thanks for the lightning talk info [11:52:42] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-402c2fa15a5c32f2] has quit (Client Quit) [11:52:56] rosy1280 | me/ hungry [11:52:56] wtd | LibraryThingTIm; Etienne P next to Jodis wants to come on the Lovecraft walk. [11:53:00] rosy1280 | doh! [11:53:04] * rosy1280 hungry [11:53:07] lbjay | is this Mikkel or Toke? [11:53:13] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1088f21a7325d162] has joined #code4lib [11:53:17] LibraryThingT | wtd: Unspeakably great. [11:53:18] gsf | oh, now we're talking about real-life numbers+ [11:53:19] gsf | ? [11:53:19] rsinger | toke [11:53:21] lbjay | T O K E [11:53:26] mbklein | rosy1280++ me too [11:53:31] ---| ---> highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-15.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:53:32] rsinger | lbjay++ [11:53:33] dlovins | naomi++ # really appreciated your lightning talk *and* your contribution to the SOlr breakout session [11:53:33] wtd | @ana gibbering eldritch noneuclidean [11:53:35] zoia | wtd: Blunderer cohabiting diligence [11:53:36] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2dad31e092ae2cd1] has joined #code4lib [11:53:39] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b0d7234824e29cc0] has joined #code4lib [11:53:39] anarchivist | holy christ [11:53:43] MrDys | @sing steve miller band : the joker : toke [11:53:44] ---| <<-- fedwards [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8ce30921cbce41d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:53:45] zoia | I'm a lover and I'm a sinner / I play my music in the sun / I'm a joker, I'm a smoker / I'm a midnight toker [11:53:48] steambadger | Lovecraft walk? [11:53:57] dchud | TDD FTW [11:53:58] rsinger | injokes+- [11:54:05] naomi | dlovins: thanks dan. I'm feeling the luuurrrrv [11:54:12] BigD | can you walk with tentacles? [11:54:13] LibraryThingT | Sssssh. The Bykahees will hear. [11:54:17] rsinger | injokes_that_make_me_laugh_inappropriately++ [11:54:18] mbklein | rsinger: Take away our injokes and we are nothing. [11:54:37] anarchivist | take away the injokes and you're not even left with a thong [11:54:37] rsinger | @quote search jokes [11:54:40] zoia | rsinger: 4 found: #195: " in-jokes don't scale", #196: "< tholbroo> if expanding code4lib means losing...", #927: " keep the bad jokes coming; i, for one,...", and #932: " rsinger: i will carry the mental image..." [11:54:41] lbjay | i'm pretty sure the guy nextto me is asleep [11:54:44] BigD | we should to an injoke index [11:54:51] BigD | BigD's fat [11:54:52] naomi | dang, i hate joining the party late. [11:54:55] rsinger | @quote get 196 [11:54:55] wtd | steambadger: http://www.hplovecraft.com/creation/sites/walktour.asp [11:54:56] zoia | rsinger: Quote #196: "< tholbroo> if expanding code4lib means losing the in-jokes, count me out." (added by edsu at 03:34 PM, February 22, 2006) [11:55:01] steambadger | Now mibbit is trying to sell me colon cancer. This software is a hypochondriac's nightmare. [11:55:02] naomi | how do you people WORK and follow this chat? [11:55:03] mib_gpdr8p19 | ding ding ding [11:55:05] BigD | mjg_ needs a shave [11:55:07] ---| <<-- gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6dccadfac86b45df] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:55:13] BigD | edsu's mean [11:55:17] anarchivist | naomi: "continuous partial attention" [11:55:19] steambadger | wtd, thanks [11:55:22] wtd | naomi: I agree, that was a good lightning talk yesterday. Thanks. [11:55:23] gsf @foaf sitting_next_to lbjay [11:55:23] mbklein | naomi: work? I don't understand. [11:55:24] zoia | gsf: I don't know sitting_next_to's URI [11:55:30] mjg_ | all three solvable by a razor [11:55:30] lbjay | naomi: we are of a new breed [11:55:33] Kerwick | naomi: ADD ;-) [11:55:33] dchud | lisppaste3: help [11:55:33] ejk | doors closing [11:55:34] naomi | wtd: thanks [11:55:34] lisppaste3 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/code4lib and enter your paste. [11:55:38] naomi | lol [11:55:47] JodiS_ | ecorrado: endusers don't even care about Find, Identify, Select, Obtain. They want to find shit, without thinking about it. And know which version of a movie they're borrowing. [11:55:54] naomi | seriously, i tried to get on this at work, and i did n o t h i n g [11:56:08] ---| <<-- asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0bc24a1fcea007c6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:56:12] gsf | THE NEED FOR SPEED [11:56:16] bess | naomi: I leave the chat open, and just have it alert me if certain keywords are mentioned, like my name, my university, and any of the projects I work on. That way I can participate in the relevant conversations, but not have it suck up all my productivity. [11:56:24] naomi | oooo ... now we can talk about vufind ... [11:56:27] naomi | (kidding) [11:56:30] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [11:56:39] akorphan | I'm just going to start punctuating my sentences with the word bess. [11:56:43] timmcgeary | lol@naomi [11:56:51] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [11:57:00] BigD | bacon is the bess t food [11:57:03] bess | akorphan: that's mean! but akorphan++ 'cause it's also funny. :) [11:57:04] mbklein | akorphan: So what's bess for lunch today bess? [11:57:15] rosy1280 | there is a bacon lightning talk [11:57:31] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dc118368b843686d] has joined #code4lib [11:57:34] JodiS_ | LibraryThingTim: International Standard Text Code looks really cool, but their website just has a press release now. Do you know any publishers taking advantage of their "free for the first 6 mos" deal to organize? ISTC would have been a great answer to one of those questions [11:57:38] akorphan | mmm, bacon. Bess, how do you feel about bacon? [11:57:47] JodiS_ | 20 min later, /me has caught up with reality... [11:57:49] mib_gpdr8p19 | so summa is a potential replacement for SOLR? [11:57:50] ---| <<-- highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-15.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:57:50] lbjay | toke++ [11:57:54] BillDueber | http://wiki.statsbiblioteket.dk/summa [11:57:58] timmcgeary | does bacon stand up well in blacklight? [11:58:02] akorphan | dueling accents! [11:58:04] fak3r | toke++ # good speaker [11:58:10] erikhatcher | toke++ [11:58:12] timmcgeary | akorphan++ [11:58:16] Kerwick | timmcgeary: no, it kinda lays there [11:58:18] LibraryThingT | It's my feeling that scalng always involves bespoke works, so it's hard to evaluate others' work. Maybe I'm just wrong. [11:58:19] anarchivist | toke++ [11:58:25] naomi | blacklight can import bacon and has a separate view for it. [11:58:27] rsinger | T O K E [11:58:29] khatar | toke++ [11:58:36] rsinger | T O K E [11:58:39] edsu | maybe i'll ask if he uses git [11:58:45] mbklein | @herald get tako [11:58:46] zoia | mbklein: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [11:58:52] fak3r | edsu++ [11:58:54] lbjay | anarchivist: i'm bagging on hortons. i'm going to go stick my head in the statehouse instead [11:58:56] erikhatcher | i had the breakfast in the hotel this morning... they did NOT skimp on bacon... 4 slices! [11:59:00] MrDys | @karma toke [11:59:00] zoia | MrDys: Karma for "toke" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. [11:59:02] wtd | LibraryThingTim; I just noticed the tour starts just down the streeet from here. Sweet. [11:59:02] anarchivist | lbjay: aight [11:59:08] edsu | "unrelated, do you use git?" [11:59:09] ---| <<-- iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9cbc687300aa260f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:59:16] * mjg_ goes back in time and robs erikhatcher of his breakfast [11:59:17] mbklein | @herald get tako [11:59:18] zoia | mbklein: (herald get [] []) -- Returns the current herald message for (or the user is currently identified or recognized as). If is not given, defaults to the user giving the command. is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. [11:59:18] lisppaste3 | dchud pasted "sample updated marc+json, preserves field ordering" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/76152 [11:59:20] LibraryThingT | Jodis_: Yeah. I hear you. Re: BISG and etc., I think it's worth talking about it. ISBN replaced LCCN, basically. Everyone is moving slowly. BUt someone is going to have the numbers printed in books.... [11:59:27] gsf | http://www.troll-company.dk/ [11:59:27] bess | rsinger and khatar: all of this talk of toking is sounding like an invitation. Is that what's going on in the "whatever" room? [11:59:29] edsu | wtd: when are you going? [11:59:36] ---| ---> highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-15.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [11:59:40] kgs | bess++ [11:59:44] anarchivist | bess++ [11:59:45] mjg_ | tako tako tako tako tako tako tako tako tako TOKE TOKE TOKE [11:59:47] MrDys | reincarnation++ [11:59:58] lbjay | whatever happens in the whatever room stays in the whatever room [11:59:58] gsf | note on the whatever room: as long as we get in there by 11 we can stay later [12:00:02] fak3r | edsu: "uh, hi, I just wanted to ask about distributed searching, a GIT ROCKS! Whooo!" [12:00:05] gsf | that was the case last night, at least [12:00:06] dchud | glen: in your biology research did you perfect reincarnation? [12:00:09] wtd | edsu: tomorrow afternoon after it's over? Are you here then? Want to do it when it's light out in case Hastur shows up. [12:00:11] dchud | MrDys++ [12:00:16] akorphan | hideous_bloated_visage_of_great_cthulhu++ [12:00:19] mbklein | lbjay: bess beat you to a drug comment. no karma for you. [12:00:21] JodiS_ | naomi: #code4lib volume is normally about a tenth of this [12:00:22] LibraryThingT | Libraries that lend out experts—can they be FRBRized? [12:00:29] anarchivist | wtd: would be up for that too perhaps [12:00:35] naomi | JodiS: not when i was last on. [12:00:38] wtd | anarchivist: Cool. [12:00:39] * JodiS_ mostly reads scrollback rather than real-time #code4lib (for better or worse) [12:00:41] fak3r | "Yes, but will it scale?" [12:00:43] gsf | "This site is best viewed with Netscape 4.0 or Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0." [12:00:44] mbklein | Speaking of "staying later," has anyone seen scolford today? [12:00:46] dchud | lbjay: whatever happens in the whatever rooms ends up on youtube, lb [12:00:54] bjy | hastur, hastur, hastur [12:00:54] rjw | LibraryThingTim: only if the expets are related [12:00:56] lbjay | dchud: haw [12:00:57] Kerwick | baby_cthulhu++ [12:01:00] edsu | wtd: yea, sounds good to me ... should put on wiki maybe? [12:01:01] edsu | or just announce tomorrow [12:01:02] mib_gpdr8p19 | and lunch [12:01:02] steambadger | I don't think daylight will protect you from Hastur [12:01:05] rosy1280 | ok now its time to eat [12:01:05] rosy1280 | stop [12:01:06] fak3r | dead_troll_pic++ [12:01:09] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [12:01:09] timmcgeary | and lunch [12:01:10] ---| ---> ccatalfo [i=46a4197e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f550c06af491509b] has joined #code4lib [12:01:11] khatar | bess++ [12:01:11] akorphan | hammertime [12:01:15] rosy1280 | yay! 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[12:01:26] * jtgorman chuckles a little at following the dependencies for File_MARC [12:01:28] zoia | true, true [12:01:31] JodiS_ | mbklein: I'm TOTALLY up for that [12:01:35] JodiS_ | mbklein: either way [12:01:36] timmcgeary | I'm up for D&B [12:01:39] ---| <<-- cmillward [n=cmillwar@user-0calc4q.cable.mindspring.com] has quit () [12:01:39] robcaSSon | mbklein: yeah, i could go either way [12:01:40] lbjay | mbklein: i'm there for either [12:01:41] ---| <<-- was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [12:01:43] ---| <<-- reeset [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-724c159260b3b6fb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:01:47] fak3r | let's bootleg whoever doesn't want to be rec'd [12:01:48] ---| <<-- JodiS_ [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:01:48] ---| <<-- mib_gpdr8p19 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1af2db480ab903e4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:01:49] mbklein | OK. We'll talk about it. 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[12:38:14] * jtgorman is wondering if most people are voting for ....ksclarke, warmth, or travel convenience [12:38:26] truk77 | vote for 6th street [12:38:40] mib_pdoyhzg7 | vote for Emo's on 6th Street [12:38:55] truk77 | and The Boiling Pot [12:39:09] ---| User: *** mib_pdoyhzg7 is now known as fak3_fak3r [12:39:13] timmcgeary | the cake was good, but i love whoopie pies [12:39:23] smkiewel | both warmth and travel convenience for me [12:39:23] fak3r | iand: ping [12:39:35] ---| <<-- messyp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-16.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:40:04] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:40:22] * truk77 accuses BigD of hijacking to the vote to make Texas lose. [12:40:42] smkiewel | well, they did say it was a diebold machine ;) [12:40:49] smkiewel | wouldnt be right if it were fair [12:41:06] jwn | whoever gets the diebold vote usually wins [12:41:17] jfereira | 6th_Street++ [12:41:18] ejk | Just need some RC cola with those pies [12:41:25] BigD | truk77: i wanted austin! [12:41:25] ---| ---> abrin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f3bdd2e422b2171b] has joined #code4lib [12:41:26] truk77 | Texas is a Red state, so the Diebold machine should swing in its favor [12:41:28] ---| ---> decasm_nomad [n=decasm@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:41:33] ---| User: *** decasm_nomad is now known as decasm [12:41:42] akorphan | strawberry_cake++ [12:41:51] truk77 | BigD: oh, is Austin exempt from your dislike of all things Texas? :) [12:42:07] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [12:42:13] ---| User: *** mib_rde6b9 is now known as mib_shoe [12:42:16] decasm | @hosts2010 [12:42:18] zoia | decasm: Asheville, NC [253]; Austin, TX [237]; Madison, WI [193]; Columbus, OH [140]; Bloomington, IN [116] [12:42:19] ---| ---> ruest [n=ruest@wsip-70-164-25-64.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:42:30] jwn | so what was "blonde" about the "whoopie pies and blondes?" [12:42:48] timmcgeary | jwn: not chocolate [12:42:48] fak3r | truk77: austin != texas [12:43:06] jwn | blondes != chocoloate [12:43:11] jtgorman | quick stupid question...File_MARC does not include leader/directory/etc in getFields, right? [12:43:20] ---| <<-- abarrera [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c0d010355c4001af] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:43:21] fak3r | shirt != black [12:43:27] ---| ---> gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ad7646cc35c8f6ec] has joined #code4lib [12:43:42] akorphan | jwn: I think blondes AKA blondies: like a mutant hybrid of a brownie and a chocolate chip cookie. [12:43:44] jtgorman | ie if I do foreach($record->getFields as $tag => $subfields) there will not be the leader [12:44:14] fak3r | truk77: texas is a red state, but travis county (where austin is) always voted blue when I was there [12:44:25] ---| <<-- emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit ("emcrens has no reason") [12:44:44] truk77 | fak3r: fair enough...Austin is still Texas though...it's just not stereotypical Texas [12:44:44] BigD | truk77: i LOVE texas! such easy targets [12:45:11] jwn | so the whoopie pie is the fluffy filling and the blondes the variety of cookie wrapping the fluffy filling [12:45:20] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4407c0860a117f64] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:45:28] ejk | @hosts2010 [12:45:29] zoia | ejk: Asheville, NC [250]; Austin, TX [243]; Madison, WI [193]; Columbus, OH [140]; Bloomington, IN [116] [12:45:39] timmcgeary | jwn: the blondie is really about the brownie [12:45:44] ejk | Keep Austin Weird [12:45:59] ---| <--- gam [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ad7646cc35c8f6ec] has left #code4lib () [12:46:01] timmcgeary | jwn: the whoopie pie, by definition, is pumpkin cake with cream cheese icing filling [12:46:02] fak3r | ejk: I've got a coffee cup at home with the Keep Austin Weird logo [12:46:10] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6b116da6f7f2bf8f] has joined #code4lib [12:46:15] truk77 | maybe an excursion to Antone's could be arranged [12:46:20] mjg_ | if code4lib comes to ausin, no worries re: keeping Austin weird. [12:46:22] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5e05e68613156bd] has joined #code4lib [12:46:23] fak3r | truk77: true [12:46:23] ejk | @ana keep austin weird [12:46:24] zoia | ejk: Win steadier puke [12:46:29] ejk | ugh [12:46:30] fak3r | mjg_: boom [12:46:38] mbklein | Quote of the day (from a private Internet forum, not a public blog or anything, so I can't link to it): "I honestly don't care if the earth was created by God or by an explosion or by rainbow unicorn sex." [12:46:41] jwn | thank you, the wp&b confusion has been lifted from me. [12:46:51] fak3r | mjg_: reminder, I want to meetup with iand sometime today/tonight [12:47:02] ---| ---> mib_dx1fjxvh [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2f5d9f0a9dcd1fde] has joined #code4lib [12:47:06] timmcgeary | jwn: you're welcome [12:47:09] mjg_ | fak3r: ah, yeah, thanks. :) [12:47:16] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fb4f072f02272998] has joined #code4lib [12:47:21] ---| <<-- mib_shoe [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33a1e105dc3b83a6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:47:28] ---| User: *** mib_dx1fjxvh is now known as mouwd [12:47:42] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-53.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:47:54] timmcgeary | jwn: being married to someone who grew up Mennonite does have certain baking culinary advantages [12:48:01] fak3r | anyone want to suggest a good netbook? so many choices, want; small, linux, surfability [12:48:19] ---| ---> jbfink [n=chatzill@PC-30523-l.lib.mcmaster.ca] has joined #code4lib [12:48:34] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8655baee4f1189d] has joined #code4lib [12:48:58] mjg_ | fak3r: we can just pester iand during his keynote tomorrow [12:49:01] jtgorman | ps [12:49:06] ejk | fak3r: haven't played with it yet, but I'm getting a dell mini 9 [12:49:09] jtgorman | dbs++ #for File_MARC [12:49:12] mbklein | Dammit, mbklein forgot his diebold-o-matic password again. Who can I PM with a password I won't forget? [12:49:21] fak3r | mjg_: sounds great, I just don't know what he looks like, and likely him/me [12:49:23] ---| ---> mib_2bv9f9 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49cf0dfbbb43b64d] has joined #code4lib [12:49:27] wickr | mbklein: you can reset it at code4lib.org [12:49:29] mjg_ | mbklein: you can use the "request a new password" link. it works. wickr++ [12:49:33] jbfink | ruest: Okay, okay, I'm on now. [12:49:37] fak3r | mjg_: favorite thing last night, meeting people and having them say, "oh, so you're fak3r!" [12:49:42] wickr | mjgiarlo++ [12:49:45] mbklein | fak3r: Talk to wtd about netbooks. His is cool. [12:49:51] mbklein | mjg_++ mbklein-- [12:49:56] mjg_ | fak3r: yeah, it's kind of disorienting in a cool way [12:50:19] fak3r | ejk: that's what I've had my eye on, just want to actually try one out, see the screen, type, etc [12:50:21] ---| ---> bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-88818f8029e2622e] has joined #code4lib [12:50:24] jtgorman | fak3r: has a friend who likes his EEE...has one of the early ones [12:50:44] fak3r | ejk: used a 10" Wind MSI this morning, don't think Linux is an installed option, but I'd drop Debian on it [12:50:44] bjy | eee++ [12:50:49] ---| ---> birkin [n=birkin@wsip-70-164-25-27.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:50:56] jtgorman | what netbook does wtd have? [12:50:59] mbklein | mjg_: uhh...what "request new password" link? [12:51:05] fak3r | jtgorman: EEEs are cool, but yeah, the early ones screen is pretty tiny [12:51:05] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:51:13] ejk | fak3r: this chart was *interesting* http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/17/osx-netbook-compatib.html [12:51:16] ---| ---> was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has joined #code4lib [12:51:16] jbfink | jtgorman: My wife has one of the first EEEs and has grown more irritated with it with time. [12:51:37] ejk | not that I'd advocate such activity [12:51:42] mbklein | mjg_: Is my voting password the same as my code4lib.org password? I thought they were separate sign-on. [12:51:45] birkin | hey, werewolf game for code4libbers this evening, 6pm, trinity brew pub; see conference_buzz page later in case of plan-shifts. [12:51:55] ---| ---> emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:52:02] ---| ---> mib_shoe [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-564f7c956e831c64] has joined #code4lib [12:52:16] MrDys | mbklein: yes [12:52:19] fak3r | ejk: v.cool, yeah, I would dual boot OSX with Linux [12:52:28] MrDys | mbklein: the voting machine uses the c4l.org drupal accounts [12:52:30] fak3r | yeah, Lenovo would be cool, but more $ too [12:52:34] mbklein | birkin: Ooh, I love werewolf. But we've got the Dave & Buster's plan in the works 2night. [12:52:36] MrDys | (I think) [12:52:41] mbklein | MrDys: OK, thanks. [12:52:46] timmcgeary | what is the D&B plan right now/ [12:52:47] timmcgeary | ? [12:52:50] mbklein | No karma for you until I actually try it. :) [12:52:53] fak3r | mbklein: D&B, is that for dinner or after or both? [12:53:01] MrDys | the D&B plan is that I eat mbklein's soul for 3 hours [12:53:07] mbklein | We're leaning toward making it a combo dinner & gaming plan. [12:53:08] lbjay | anyone with a good empty seat near them? [12:53:27] fak3r | lbjay: over here, front left of the room [12:53:32] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5b9dbc63e317fc3a] has joined #code4lib [12:53:36] mbklein | lbjay: There's an empty chair here between me and emorgan, but it's tight. [12:53:45] ---| ---> LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@212.sub-75-195-44.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [12:53:48] lbjay | fak3r: raise hand? [12:53:48] timmcgeary | mbklein: what time for D&B? 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[12:56:03] ejk | I just need time to vid chat with the kids *before* dinner tonight [12:56:22] mjg_ | ejk: think the beer hour goes 'til 6:15 anyhow. [12:56:26] fak3r | ejk: exactly! that's what I do too, either before or after, but if we're staying out... [12:56:29] fak3r | ejk: skype [12:56:32] timmcgeary | 7pm for D&B? [12:56:41] mjg_ | ejk: folks'll prolly be there for hours anyhow. it's right down at the mall, top floor IIRC [12:56:44] ejk | skype++ [12:57:09] birkin | mbklein, you could play one or two rounds and then head to D&Bs [12:57:13] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0b2a02e6080c69ad] has joined #code4lib [12:57:15] * ejk was approved for the 64GB SSD mini 9 [12:57:22] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:57:22] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ba83b95060d441bc] has joined #code4lib [12:57:24] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [12:57:26] fak3r | ejk: really? for work? [12:57:28] lbjay | "aaaahh..." [12:57:30] birkin | guy running it says trinity gets too loud later anyway [12:57:30] mbklein | birkin: True. [12:57:38] mbklein | birkin: I've only ever played online games. [12:57:45] lbjay | fak3r++ # much better seat [12:57:51] liza_ | My Mini 9 arrives Friday [12:57:55] ---| ---> codemonkey [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15b3434b3b943660] has joined #code4lib [12:57:56] ---| ---> messyp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-16.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [12:58:00] liza_ | Just in time for me to still have to drag my 17" MBP here [12:58:07] fak3r | liza_: nice - special color chosen? [12:58:10] * lbjay is holding out for a good tablet netbook [12:58:14] liza_ | Black, of course [12:58:16] birkin | mbklein: i only played it live once for two rounds -- it was fun [12:58:22] ejk | fak3r: yeah, I was surprised too [12:58:23] wickr | weird, ed vielmetti is linking a ton of stuff up in the code4lib wiki to pages that don't exist [12:58:25] ---| <<-- iand [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9235f31e3a77f997] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [12:58:30] ejk | It's so cheap still [12:58:37] fak3r | liza_: I like how the colors are more, but I'd want the base, but w/1G ram [12:58:40] fak3r | liza_: Ubuntu? [12:58:44] liza_ | (got it during the 1 day sale, $199) [12:58:55] ejk | replay challenges can only come from the boeth [12:59:01] ejk | s/boeth/booth [12:59:02] liza_ | Ubuntu + 2G RAM from Crucial [12:59:06] fak3r | liza_: 199! now that's a nice price...that's not today, right? [12:59:08] ---| ---> mib_xravnv97 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b8927cea74924e73] has joined #code4lib [12:59:19] liza_ | No, it was President's Day [12:59:19] lbjay | ubuntu == crucial [12:59:23] mbklein | code{4}lib is actually codeeee4lib, not codecodecodecode4lib as previously suggested. [12:59:29] mbklein | ^-- Geek nitpick [12:59:35] lbjay | mbklein++ # correcting me [12:59:35] smkiewel | i have a eee pc 1000 here if anyone wants to check it out [12:59:43] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4426b7c16081a7f8] has joined #code4lib [12:59:45] smkiewel | and i absolutely love it [12:59:49] mbklein | (code){4}lib is another matter. :) [12:59:50] fak3r | liza_: fantastic [13:00:01] fak3r | smkiewel: I would like to, is that the one w/10" screen? 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[13:00:44] ---| <<-- messyp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-16.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [13:01:01] smkiewel | fak3r: mine runs at 1024x600 [13:01:04] mbklein | MrDys++ # Single-sign-on ftw [13:01:22] fak3r | smkiewel: that's workable, thanks [13:01:24] brownsica | hey-I'm writing an article about netbooks, I have an asus eeepc too-let me know how you like them, what you use them for..my article is due next week-help! [13:01:25] ---| ---> dcloutman [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-41.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:01:35] ---| <--- freemoth [n=freemoth@rdsl-1480.tor.pathcom.com] has left #code4lib ("Konversation terminated!") [13:01:35] fak3r | smkiewel: would like to check it out lates [13:01:37] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e24ab33b0eaa8bff] has joined #code4lib [13:01:41] lbjay | ecorrado & royt: where does the book giveaways fit in the schedule? [13:01:46] jtgorman | dbs: ok, quick stupid question before I go digging in the source code.....is there a way to get just Data fields? [13:01:51] mbklein | Java isn't slow, it's just big-boned! [13:01:54] * jtgorman guesses he can do a is_class [13:01:56] rosy1280 | damn people are back on the interwebs [13:01:57] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [13:01:57] ---| ---> soff [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2b21299eab53dd85] has joined #code4lib [13:02:08] lbjay | pragprog++ [13:02:18] edsu | s/ls/select/ [13:02:25] lbjay | 9. Performance [13:02:30] fak3r | looks like mini 10s are coming, but again, price of mini 9 is a big deal [13:02:56] lbjay | <-- lives for the injokes [13:03:08] robcaSSon | free_solr_support++ [13:03:08] naomi | what was #10?? [13:03:11] ---| ---> mib_ios7tb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-163280deadcaeefe] has joined #code4lib [13:03:29] mbklein | naomi: Performance [13:03:30] bjy | robcaSSon freeloader [13:03:37] mbklein | naomi: Oh, wait, that was #9 [13:03:44] decasm | java is slow, like speed, it's slow, like mentally challenged [13:03:52] dbs | jtgorman: in File_MARC? you would have to getFields() and then iterate through them, discarding those that aren't File_MARC_Data_Field instances [13:03:53] lbjay | naomi: #10 was Bacon [13:03:54] ---| ---> mib_c1prtqwd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f96e66cc1a7aeca8] has joined #code4lib [13:03:56] decasm | s/java is slow/java isn't slow/ [13:03:57] ---| ---> tealeaf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2277d3270335bbfc] has joined #code4lib [13:04:00] gsf | jbfink! are you in providence? [13:04:01] robcaSSon | bjy++ # no doubt ;) [13:04:01] abarrera | # 10 was there is no such thing as solr fight club [13:04:03] mbklein | decasm: solr_in_erlang++ [13:04:15] decasm | erlang++ [13:04:19] jbfink | gsf: Nah. I am in Hamilton. :) [13:04:22] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-349a8bcca313cd7c] has joined #code4lib [13:04:22] jtgorman | dbs: yeah, that's what I'm doing ;) [13:04:29] robcaSSon | jbfink++ [13:04:30] ---| ---> domnat [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-05a76ab0da861be9] has joined #code4lib [13:04:38] ---| <<-- mmmmmrob [n=mmmmmrob@82-36-211-60.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ("we're off to see the wizard...") [13:04:47] gsf | jbfink: thought so. might i see you in pei this fall? [13:04:56] mbklein | robcaSSon is always confused when people say "freeloader" like it's a bad thing. [13:04:59] jbfink | robcasson++!!! [13:05:00] gsf | ooh, query parser games [13:05:04] jtgorman | dbs: just thought maybe there's some better way than doing (if get_class($field) == 'File_MARC_Data_Field ') or whatever [13:05:05] ---| ---> kgs_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-117.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:05:08] wtd | jbfink: Hey there, good to see you in channel. [13:05:15] jbfink | gsf: If I can swing it. Getting money for travel is hard(er) now. [13:05:26] jbfink | @wtd: Good to see you too! I don't see you often enough. [13:05:27] zoia | jbfink: please forward your request to the appropriate tribal leader [13:05:28] jtgorman | dbs: ie if($field->isDataField()) or something that might be more...oh, I don't know [13:05:41] anarchivist | dchud: http://www.action3news.com/Global/story.asp?S=9900719 [13:05:42] jbfink | zoia: hah, natch. [13:05:43] zoia | jbfink: can you express that in RDF plz? [13:05:53] steambadger | The last rule of SOLR fight club: if you're new, you HAVE to search. [13:06:11] ---| ---> btw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d9a21a3d4ec0336d] has joined #code4lib [13:06:35] gsf | jbfink: rob a bank [13:06:49] gsf | erikhatcher++ "ugly xml configuration" [13:06:51] fak3r | I want you to search me as hard as you can. [13:07:03] lbjay | it's so awesome that erikhatcher comes to our conf [13:07:11] rsinger | lbjay: i agree [13:07:11] jbfink | Luckily since I am a gigantic cheapskate, never join any organizations that cost anything, and am legally prohibited from taking educational classes under the terms of my NAFTA permit, I have chunks of change in my professional development account. [13:07:11] dbs | jtgorman: yeah, I could add something like that to File_MARC_Field I guess [13:07:17] cschx | disappointing... was expecting an intensional search engine based on Lucid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_(programming_language) [13:07:22] dbs | jbfink++ [13:07:24] rsinger | lbjay: and knows and respects the market [13:07:27] robcaSSon | erikhatcher++ [13:07:27] mjg_ | lbjay++ [13:07:28] ---| <<-- jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ab0695007f205bb6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:07:28] ---| <<-- fak3_fak3r [i=46a4195c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-09ebd43ca97ece34] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:07:33] jbfink | so, gsf, if I can possibly go to Access 2009, I am GOING TO GO [13:07:34] ruest | jbfink++ [13:07:36] naomi | eh++ [13:07:38] mib_c1prtqwd | ecorrado OWNZ royt's computer... considers doing evil things [13:07:52] jbfink | dbs: Are you going to go to Access 2009? [13:08:00] dbs | jbfink: mebbe [13:08:02] BigD | mib_c1prtqwd: convert it to windows [13:08:09] gsf | lbjay: i'm hoping he turns on the preacherhatcher soon [13:08:17] ---| User: *** mib_c1prtqwd is now known as obligatory [13:08:22] lbjay | @sing the smittens : obligatory love song [13:08:27] zoia | lbjay: No lyrics for obligatory love song by the smittens. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [13:08:35] abarrera | preacherhatcher++ [13:08:39] naomi | Was that slide sufficient to teach everyone ruby? [13:08:56] rsinger | naomi: that was a crash course, yeah [13:08:59] kat3 | Obligatory XML would be a great name for a band [13:09:11] rsinger | "Ruby has symbols" Any questions? [13:09:18] robcaSSon | @band add Obligatory XML [13:09:18] zoia | robcaSSon: Band 'Obligatory XML' added to list [13:09:18] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [13:09:20] fak3r | with The Request Handlers opening [13:09:24] jtgorman | dbs: not a biggie, just didn't want to do something that seems a bit ugly if there was other functionality arlready there [13:09:28] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5e05e68613156bd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:09:28] rsinger | TOO SLOW RSINGER [13:09:47] rsinger | 9. Performance [13:09:58] cbarr | with my Irish band The Dublin Core [13:10:01] dbs | jbfink: mleggott asked me to submit something, but I'll be damned if I can think of anything (other than Evergreen, obviously, and I don't want to be a repeat performance) [13:10:02] gsf | jbfink: good good. i'll be there, by hook or by crook [13:10:20] gsf | @tagged dublincore [13:10:22] zoia | gsf: no such tag or last.fm is on the fritz [13:10:25] ---| <<-- mib_shoe [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-564f7c956e831c64] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:10:29] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5b9dbc63e317fc3a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:10:30] fak3r | starting to notice lag in irssi [13:10:30] mbklein | BigD: evil [13:10:31] wickr | dbs: printer cable management? ;) [13:10:32] ---| ---> jmspargu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7cb0e88cd89f0606] has joined #code4lib [13:10:46] dbs | wickr++ # that would be fun! [13:10:49] * BillDueber needs to know *all* of this. And then some. [13:11:01] mjg_ | would be interesting to see the stats on this, but despite whiteboys abounding, this conf does seem to be getting more diverse. [13:11:04] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-067b5790e9ef14f7] has joined #code4lib [13:11:08] ---| ---> jrochkind101 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b30070fe0423f573] has joined #code4lib [13:11:08] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-067b5790e9ef14f7] has quit (Client Quit) [13:11:14] BigD | mbklein: not disagreeing, but do you have context? [13:11:21] wtd | Luke ... I am your search engine. [13:11:22] gsf | fak3r: just when i thought it was going a little smoother [13:11:46] lbjay | Nothing like a good piece of hickory! [13:11:47] jbfink | dbs: Yeah, I'd love to think of something other than EG to talk about, but there's nothing that would be interesting really. [13:11:54] jbfink | <- one-note pony. [13:12:02] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:12:20] obligatory | 11 breakout sessions on list [13:12:25] khatar | geosearching for a book? 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[13:13:11] rosy1280 | Luke I am your father [13:13:15] jtgorman | BillDueber: quick question on the "almost marc' you're sending to refworks....did you leave the subfield |a out on purpose in those records? [13:13:19] mjg_ | erikhatcher++ [13:13:26] rsinger | khatar: nope [13:13:26] anarchivist | khatar: not so much a book, but other sorts of metadata [13:13:30] * akorphan is overcaffeinated [13:13:30] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-75b0724ff617070f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:13:30] ---| <<-- kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0b2a02e6080c69ad] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:13:30] khatar | BigD:-D [13:13:43] mbklein | @band add Whiteboys Abounding [13:13:43] zoia | mbklein: Band 'Whiteboys Abounding' added to list [13:13:48] dchud | mbklein: as jbrinley corrected me, itym "codeeeelib" [13:13:48] mbklein | @band add Whiteboys Abounding [13:13:48] zoia | mbklein: Band 'Whiteboys Abounding' added to list [13:13:52] rsinger | http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/&ei=VYqlSer4B4S6nQe9w_mqBQ&usg=AFQjCNEgSkJbcTV81KjibIxFh_tLdmDMRA [13:13:52] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-76d9157a1796e6eb] has joined #code4lib [13:13:55] rsinger | oops [13:13:59] rsinger | google-- [13:14:07] lbjay | google-- [13:14:09] khatar | ok... thx [13:14:29] anarchivist | on the next episode of "what anarchivist hates": the capitalization MaRC even though it's technically correct [13:14:29] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8655baee4f1189d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:14:35] BigD | Index Zero [13:14:46] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-76d9157a1796e6eb] has quit (Client Quit) [13:14:49] gsf | fak3r: i'm having pretty good luck with "ssh -o "TCPKeepAlive no" -C -L 6667:irc.freenode.net:6667 manheim.library.drexel.edu" as my ssh tunnel [13:14:56] dchud | @later tell jaf via anarchivist: http://www.action3news.com/Global/story.asp?S=9900719 your predictions come true [13:14:56] zoia | dchud: The operation succeeded. [13:15:02] cbarr | consider hiring a designer [13:15:03] khatar | anarchivist, give a talk on it ! [13:15:16] cbeer | UX++ [13:15:22] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b391907cd749ab30] has joined #code4lib [13:15:34] BillDueber | jtgorman: Yeah -- the filter I'm calling requires no subfield a. [13:15:47] ---| User: *** jphipps|away is now known as jphipps [13:15:59] rsinger | what the hell are you people doing to the bandwidth? [13:16:06] akorphan | ugh, laggy. [13:16:09] jtgorman | BillDueber: thanks [13:16:30] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-45f20ccbeef50a13] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:16:30] dchud | @canuck whiteboys abounding [13:16:31] BigD | rsinger: puppycam! [13:16:31] zoia | dchud: whiteboys abounding, eh? [13:16:39] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-07c2de9dd8734d0a] has joined #code4lib [13:16:39] dchud | yeah yeah [13:16:43] mib_fhntkl | rsinger: we are playing hide and seek with the bandwidth...so far, it's winning [13:16:45] akorphan | projector_crazies-- [13:16:46] BillDueber | jtgorman: It strikes me that I have no idea what happens if you ahve two $$a subfields. I'll try that sometime. [13:17:05] akorphan | mini_dvi-- [13:17:06] gsf | rsinger: my ssh is compressed :/ [13:17:07] BigD | check yer dongle [13:17:09] timmcgeary | loose_dongles--- [13:17:14] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8ecead0904e46331] has joined #code4lib [13:17:15] rsinger | khatar: http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/index.html [13:17:15] lbjay | @dunno add check your cable [13:17:16] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Dunno #304 added. [13:17:22] jtgorman | BillDueber: quick clarification, does it require no |a or no initial subfield? [13:17:36] BigD | i have a 2 a$$ subfield [13:17:45] BigD | i mean abarrera does [13:17:50] mjg_ | BigD++ [13:17:55] gsf | erikhatcher++ keeping the marketing hype to a minimum [13:18:02] ---| <<-- JodiS_ [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:18:03] jtgorman | BillDueber: ie would 856 |u http://someurl.com be translated as 856 http://womeurl.com? [13:18:10] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: Lucid Imagination " Exploring Query Parsers || Engard, Nicole: Information wants to be expensive || Bisson, Casey: Scriblio 2.7 Released || Bisson, Casey: Is Internet Linking Legal? JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:18:22] ---| ---> dlacy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9691ed40d381e30f] has joined #code4lib [13:18:28] abarrera | BigD++ # why are you looking? [13:18:31] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6b116da6f7f2bf8f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:18:31] liza_ | making-money-with-open-source++ [13:18:35] rsinger | @dunno get PLATFORMS [13:18:36] zoia | rsinger: Error: 'PLATFORMS' is not a valid id. [13:18:43] dchud | aw hell i forget which port couchdb runs on by default, anyone remember? [13:18:45] BigD | abarrera: you're between me and the sun [13:18:49] rsinger | @dunno search PLATFORMS [13:18:50] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #303: "HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR?" [13:19:06] jbrinley | @google couchdb default port [13:19:07] zoia | jbrinley: Search took 0.20 seconds: AnyEvent:: CouchDB - a non-blocking CouchDB client based on jquery ...: ; [jira] Created: ( COUCHDB -219) Futon JS test for 'config' fails ...: ; [jira] Commented: ( COUCHDB -58) CouchDB should (3 more messages) [13:19:15] rsinger | dchud: just relax, ok? 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[13:21:18] BigD | i hate illinois nazis [13:21:25] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-56.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:21:32] ---| <<-- abrin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f3bdd2e422b2171b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:21:32] ---| <<-- tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4426b7c16081a7f8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:21:34] BillDueber | You can't lie to a nun. [13:21:34] JodiS | network-- [13:21:37] anarchivist | ahhh solr [13:21:46] robcaSSon | BigD++ # my fave quote from the movie [13:21:46] JodiS | BillDueber must not have gone to Catholic school ;) [13:21:49] fak3r | ya [13:21:55] BigD | we're going to see The Penguin [13:21:57] ---| ---> motorgirl [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-342760e5ce5e35bd] has joined #code4lib [13:21:59] BillDueber | JodiS: Thirteen years, including kindergarten [13:22:01] akorphan | testing [13:22:10] liza_ | chicks-not-into-irc-- [13:22:15] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [13:22:17] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:22:18] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-325c60b8b7a4befa] has joined #code4lib [13:22:19] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db90ac7392c953f4] has joined #code4lib [13:22:22] lbjay | and then she left me [13:22:23] akorphan | ibahn-- [13:22:25] JodiS | :) [13:22:28] BigD | liza_++ [13:22:29] ---| ---> jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e6722cf38e0ec8e] has joined #code4lib [13:22:30] * mjg_ rollicks [13:22:31] JodiS | liza: ditto to that [13:22:36] BigD | lbjay++ [13:22:39] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4ed33f3fd63b183] has joined #code4lib [13:22:41] ruest | ibahn-- [13:22:41] JodiS | ibahn-- [13:22:41] anarchivist | liza_++ [13:22:52] JodiS | iban_yesterday+- [13:22:56] dchud | the answer is 5984 [13:22:59] ---| <<-- bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4ed33f3fd63b183] has quit (Client Quit) [13:23:03] BigD | 42 [13:23:34] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:23:34] timmcgeary | ibahn-- [13:23:46] BillDueber | Not gonna happen. [13:23:47] akorphan | university of providence library++ [13:23:48] anarchivist | autobahn++ [13:24:04] liza_ | svn commit: 'Better performance when running offline (thanks ibahn)' [13:24:10] robcaSSon | backups++ [13:24:16] ---| <<-- jrochkind100 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e6722cf38e0ec8e] has quit (Client Quit) [13:24:17] obligatory | backup_plan++ [13:24:18] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db90ac7392c953f4] has quit (Client Quit) [13:24:22] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-00f91ffb27fda7dd] has joined #code4lib [13:24:23] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:24:24] LibraryThingT | Someone should make a hotel with *excellent* communication facilities. People would flock to it for conferences. [13:24:25] mjg_ | @dunno add the answer is 5984 [13:24:25] zoia | mjg_: The operation succeeded. Dunno #305 added. [13:24:29] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c0b2deb50d1a82f0] has joined #code4lib [13:24:29] BigD | cache the internet [13:24:33] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5ca4b3d8786fc727] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:24:39] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e5b2ea32e7effb5] has joined #code4lib [13:24:51] ---| ---> bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-75b5bea47b72cb59] has joined #code4lib [13:25:00] * BillDueber is pretty sure that 180 laptops in a room this size is so rare as to be not worth optimizing for. [13:25:03] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5584480ee3827eef] has joined #code4lib [13:25:03] ---| ---> fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:25:08] rsinger | what is this guy's nick? [13:25:16] BigD | BillDueber doesn't work in a library? [13:25:20] wickr | rsinger: shoe, maybe [13:25:21] jtgorman | BillDueber++ [13:25:24] ---| ---> naomi [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b70c2be631e73110] has joined #code4lib [13:25:31] rsinger | wickr: ok, yeah [13:25:34] abarrera | BigD++ [13:25:39] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-43d677acd6cc8cf9] has joined #code4lib [13:25:41] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:25:42] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [13:25:48] jfereira | BillDueber not really, many techie conferences will have at least this many laptops [13:25:49] BigD | we're blanketed with students with laptops [13:25:50] akorphan | lack_of_vision-- [13:25:52] obligatory | FAIL! [13:25:53] BillDueber | BigD: I just show up to the library every day. [13:25:59] ---| <<-- was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [13:26:01] ---| ---> domnat [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dc09cb15f0f5e6e4] has joined #code4lib [13:26:01] ---| ---> mbklein [n=mbklein@192.80.65.231] has joined #code4lib [13:26:03] jtgorman | #for doing the work with refworks already [13:26:04] akorphan | Yeah, you don't get this kind of lag in a classroom.... [13:26:17] BigD | BillDueber: take a walk out into the public areas sometime... ;) [13:26:23] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b7ee1350a1188f6b] has joined #code4lib [13:26:23] mbklein | akorphan: You'll take the lag and you'll LIKE IT. [13:26:29] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [13:26:39] ejk | every table needs a 8 port switch next to the power strip [13:26:43] jtgorman | I gotta kind of side with BillDueber on the laptop issue... [13:26:45] ---| ---> mib_owidlu [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e27952462d3f4b42] has joined #code4lib [13:27:00] obligatory | IN SOVIET RUSSIA, LAG IS YOUR FRIEND [13:27:01] jtgorman | most hotels/conference venues still probably have relatively low network traffic [13:27:03] JodiS | @foaf known [13:27:04] zoia JodiS: I know URIs for the following 40 users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, gsf, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, royt, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [13:27:07] * atz had to reboot teh MacBook [13:27:16] JodiS | @foaf knows JodiS bess [13:27:17] BigD | ejk: we don't wire the tables anymore - with network. with power, yep [13:27:17] bess | naomi: I loved your email to the Blacklight list! Yes, please do a lightning talk. [13:27:19] mjg_ | cbeer++ # BEER! [13:27:19] zoia | JodiS: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:27:25] ruest | every table needs fibre [13:27:26] mbklein | wired_networking++ [13:27:29] naomi | BillDeuber laptops++ [13:27:30] naomi | BillDueber even [13:27:35] jtgorman | I mean, Mary Kay Reseller's conference is probably not pulling down several gigs of linked data just because someone mentioned it off-handly in an irc chatroom ;) [13:27:39] dbs | jtgorman: File_MARC-0.3.0 coming out in about five minutes, with your requested functionality and corresponding unit test [13:27:39] jfereira | DrupalCon Boston, 864 attendees [13:27:41] JodiS | wired_networking++ [13:27:47] jtgorman | dbs: that's crazy ;) [13:27:49] ---| ---> andyashton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b02db4e43024dcec] has joined #code4lib [13:27:53] akorphan | broadcast_power++ [13:27:57] rsinger | jtgorman: assuming you write it [13:28:05] jtgorman | dbs: thanks [13:28:05] naomi | bess: i can't. today is full and leaving no later than 11 tomorrow [13:28:06] JodiS | jfereira: who did their internet? [13:28:09] jtgorman | rsinger: write what? [13:28:21] mbklein | @knows JodiS bess [13:28:24] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:28:26] JodiS | naomi: maybe you could swap with somebody who's willing to talk tomorrow [13:28:30] jbrinley | @known jbrinley [13:28:30] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know jbrinley's URI [13:28:34] jfereira | JodiS no idear [13:28:35] mbklein | :( [13:28:42] rsinger | jtgorman: "dbs: jtgorman: File_MARC-0.3.0 coming out in about five minutes, with your requested functionality and corresponding unit test" [13:28:48] mbklein | @known JodiS [13:28:48] zoia | mbklein: JodiS's URI is [13:28:49] ---| ---> was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has joined #code4lib [13:28:52] flyingzumwalt | @know http://mediashelf.us/about/foaf.rdf#flyingzumwalt [13:28:53] zoia | flyingzumwalt: flyingzumwalt's URI is now [13:28:57] mbklein | @known bess [13:28:57] zoia | mbklein: bess's URI is [13:29:04] wtd | freecite++ [13:29:09] smkiewel | @known fak3r [13:29:10] zoia | smkiewel: fak3r's URI is [13:29:11] jbrinley | @know jbrinley http://jbrinley.xplus3.net/id/ [13:29:12] zoia | jbrinley: jbrinley's URI is now [13:29:21] rsinger | who is? [13:29:24] BillDueber | very_similar_to-- [13:29:33] * lbjay coughs [13:29:34] ---| <<-- bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-75b5bea47b72cb59] has quit (Client Quit) [13:29:35] naomi | bess: other issues to be discussed off list. [13:29:36] * zoia sneezes [13:29:36] timmcgeary | rsinger: I thought you were [13:29:38] akorphan | tesla++ [13:29:38] akorphan | fibre makes for smooth (packet) movement. [13:29:42] ---| <<-- birkin [n=birkin@wsip-70-164-25-27.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [13:29:46] rsinger | i think this means it's probably not based on a real data model [13:29:51] akorphan | XMLo's++ [13:29:53] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-00f91ffb27fda7dd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:29:54] mouwd | I eat xml for breakfast [13:29:58] atz | XML_crispies++ [13:30:10] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:30:12] ---| ---> jrochkind102 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a27f0bae1b9c8ca] has joined #code4lib [13:30:15] ruest | @know jbfink [13:30:15] timmcgeary | atz: do they snap, crackle, and pop? [13:30:16] zoia | ruest: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [13:30:17] BillDueber | Frosted XML++ [13:30:17] rjw | XML over-easy [13:30:26] rsinger | Let me make up for my XML with BACON [13:30:26] dlovins | bacon_flavored_chapstick++ [13:30:28] JodiS | xml bacony goodness [13:30:34] jbfink | ruest: ... [13:30:35] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-43d677acd6cc8cf9] has quit (Client Quit) [13:30:39] ---| ---> fak3r_ [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:30:40] BillDueber | Have people standarized on pronouncing it "jay-sahn"??? [13:30:41] akorphan | baconML? [13:30:50] JodiS | bibliographic JSON :) [13:30:59] erikhatcher | i'm back... what'd y'all say about me? [13:31:01] gsf | BillDueber: pretty much [13:31:06] BigD | we spell it out. like cheerleaders. in outfits. [13:31:08] BillDueber | gsf: Dammit [13:31:17] jrochkind102 | J-son, I say. [13:31:18] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-128096945c6e8ac9] has joined #code4lib [13:31:19] jrochkind102 | son as in son. [13:31:20] BigD | erikhatcher++ [13:31:21] erikhatcher | bacon++ [13:31:23] timmcgeary | rocket_surgery++ [13:31:25] ---| ---> Hammer [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-367b65d13617cab9] has joined #code4lib [13:31:27] bess | erikhatcher++ # great job, as always. :) [13:31:30] * BillDueber prefers "jason", like the name [13:31:32] naomi | erikhatcher++ [13:31:34] anarchivist | erikhatcher++ [13:31:35] BillDueber | erikhatcher++ # well done [13:31:35] ---| <<-- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3d94cc34d050f548] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:31:38] erikhatcher | @karma bacon [13:31:38] zoia | erikhatcher: Karma for "bacon" has been increased 35 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 32. [13:31:39] ---| ---> siznax [n=chatzill@adsl-69-109-191-87.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #code4lib [13:31:40] anarchivist | @quote search json [13:31:41] smkiewel | i've always said it like the name jason [13:31:42] naomi | http://bacon.com/ [13:31:43] zoia | anarchivist: 6 found: #1243: " I'll probably end up writing a...", #1282: "< BigD> json wears a lot of flannel", #1366: "< anarchivist> my band for pycon 2009:...", #1572: " Did you hear that Becky totally...", #369: " edsu: you want json, i'll give it a...", and #84: " I'm learning to love json because ... I..." [13:31:44] mjg_ | @dunno add not exactly rocket surgery [13:31:44] jmspargu | 's URI is now [13:31:45] zoia | mjg_: The operation succeeded. Dunno #306 added. [13:31:50] erikhatcher | @karma xml [13:31:50] zoia | erikhatcher: Karma for "xml" has been increased 6 times and decreased 6 times for a total karma of 0. 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Solution: Inject the salty-sweet hammy goodness into a spreadable condiment. http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/multimedia/2009/02/pl_playlist?slide=7&slideView=2 [13:32:46] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c8d6c31fdfad8c7] has joined #code4lib [13:32:51] ejk | @ana rocket surgery [13:32:52] zoia | ejk: Turkey grocers [13:32:52] dbs | jtgorman: fresh for you, http://pear.php.net/package/File_MARC/redirected [13:32:54] ---| User: *** liza_ is now known as liza31337 [13:33:01] mjg_ | zoia++ [13:33:03] akorphan | THings would be so much easier if it weren't for those damn serials. [13:33:03] naomi | it's making my head hurt [13:33:05] jtgorman | dbs++ [13:33:10] ruest | http://Bacolicio.us/ [13:33:11] erikhatcher | BillDueber: yeah, jay-sahn..... my friend Jason Hunter hates that folks call it "jason" [13:33:11] erikhatcher | who decremented bacon! bastards [13:33:12] atz | wheatabixml [13:33:16] jtgorman | I'll try to test it soon [13:33:17] mbklein | gsf: Would it be feasible to give zoia read access to her own log, and write a plugin giving channel ops the ability to tail the last [] lines of the log? [13:33:18] naomi | ibahn-- [13:33:20] jrochkind102 | i like this guy's presentation style too. Hooray for presentations that don't put me to sleep. [13:33:36] ---| <<-- gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8ecead0904e46331] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:33:36] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-128096945c6e8ac9] has quit (Client Quit) [13:33:37] BigD | naomi: that's the beginning of assimilation into the borg - just go with it [13:33:45] lbjay | @band add Turkey Grocers [13:33:46] MikeTaylor | Although he suffers from the now-traditional font-size affliction. [13:33:46] zoia | lbjay: Band 'Turkey Grocers' added to list [13:33:47] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7dfefd155a23fdde] has joined #code4lib [13:33:52] * jtgorman is already working on this an hour longer than he should be...:P [13:33:59] atz | i was drifting for a second (mmm... 3 desserts...)... but this presentation is interesting [13:34:00] ejk | that ana plugin is just about the greatest thing ever [13:34:02] jbfink | I bought some of that bacon salt from a store in Burlington, ON. It was okay. It doesn't taste much like bacon though. [13:34:02] pmurray | http://www.baconnaise.com/ [13:34:05] ---| <<-- mbklein [n=mbklein@192.80.65.231] has quit () [13:34:07] ---| <<-- tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7dfefd155a23fdde] has quit (Client Quit) [13:34:11] bess | @knows bess flyingzumwalt [13:34:11] gsf | raise your hand if you don't know what a token is [13:34:12] naomi | no ppt bullets++ [13:34:12] zoia | bess: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:34:15] erikhatcher | gsf: you're welcome. thrilled to be here! [13:34:15] erikhatcher | code4lib++ [13:34:20] naomi | oh, i've been in the pro-bacon camp forever. [13:34:24] akorphan | text_mining_algorithms++ [13:34:27] mib_fhntkl | it sorta looks like sanskrit from here... [13:34:28] wickr | erikhatcher++ [13:34:46] rsinger | T O K E n [13:34:47] wtd | erikhatcher: Nice talk. Thanks. [13:34:48] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2120a3c605c8306] has joined #code4lib [13:34:57] MikeTaylor | This is the first talk in the conference that's made me immediately think "I'm going to use this". I like that this is such a neat, self-contained service, where so many of the things we've been talking about are all-encompassing frameworks or apps. [13:35:19] akorphan | better than the OCLC service, one hopes. [13:35:35] cbeer | ubiquity++ [13:35:42] mjg_ | insulting_the_audience++ [13:35:48] MikeTaylor | Oh, I didn't know about the OCLC service. I've tried a Perl module that's meant to do citation parsing, but that was a train-wreck. [13:35:53] abarrera | @insult audience [13:35:54] zoia | audience: You are nothing but a wayward puddle of tempestuous cold. [13:36:16] akorphan | miketaylor: The oclc service relies on the OCLC number and doesn't handle specific articles from journals as far as I know. [13:36:19] ---| <<-- MattyM [n=matt@62.172.77.66] has quit ("ta ta") [13:36:21] jfereira | search for wine [13:36:21] lbjay | sweeeet [13:36:22] BigD | ubiquity++ [13:36:27] rsinger | wait for it [13:36:28] ---| ---> scotchko [i=46a41916@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-16a8edddd6ccd3d0] has joined #code4lib [13:36:28] MikeTaylor | Ugh. Well, that is beyond useless. [13:36:30] rsinger | wait for it [13:36:36] ---| <<-- brownsica [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-652c3654e856c79c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:36:37] ---| <<-- cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0a35d4ed1352bf57] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:36:37] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-349a8bcca313cd7c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:36:39] rsinger | wait for it [13:36:39] rsinger | wait for it [13:36:41] BillDueber | an-ti-ci-.... [13:36:41] rsinger | wait for it [13:36:43] mjg_ | @hosts2010 [13:36:44] zoia | mjg_: Asheville, NC [268]; Austin, TX [253]; Madison, WI [204]; Columbus, OH [146]; Bloomington, IN [121] [13:36:45] MikeTaylor | It's not even useful enough to classify as "useless". [13:36:46] akorphan | miketaylor: zactly [13:36:46] BigD | more of a browser based quicksilver than greasemonkey advancement [13:36:48] ruest | ibahn-- [13:36:51] rsinger | ANY MINUTE NOW [13:36:51] BigD | pation? [13:36:54] scotchko | ubiquity is really cool [13:36:56] MikeTaylor | ibahn-- [13:36:59] BigD | click harder! [13:37:02] gsf | asheville++ [13:37:03] rsinger | I'M GONNA BLOW YOUR FUCKING MIND! [13:37:07] BigD | crickets! [13:37:09] rsinger | wait for it [13:37:11] obligatory | talk among yourselves [13:37:15] abarrera | hit the laptop that always works [13:37:15] scotchko | but not in this presentation :( [13:37:15] rsinger | wait for it [13:37:16] akorphan | PARSING [13:37:24] akorphan | "What this isn't doing right now is..." [13:37:26] naomi | recalculating [13:37:28] rsinger | just wait [13:37:35] scotchko | damn connection [13:37:37] ---| <<-- soff [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65b25d39bbfd6bee] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:37:37] akorphan | Acquiring satellite.... [13:37:40] ruest | ibahn forbids it [13:37:41] kgs_ | naomi++ [13:37:41] BigD | http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=420 [13:37:44] BigD | i dare someone... [13:37:45] rsinger | i mean, when you see it [13:37:46] atz | ibahn-- [13:37:46] BigD | i'm a wuss [13:37:47] JodiS | crickets-- [13:37:48] MikeTaylor | This bodes very well for my Lightning Talk, which consists entirely of a demo of a web-based app. Looks like I'm going to get as far as showing the little animation in the top-right corner of the browser. [13:37:53] BillDueber | NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN [13:37:57] rsinger | wait for it [13:37:58] ejk | ibahn-- [13:38:00] akorphan | Do a little soft-shoe! [13:38:01] * JodiS covers her eyes [13:38:07] rsinger | wait for it [13:38:10] erikhatcher | just goes to show, presenters need to run everything locally.... a shame, but good network access is still a luxury [13:38:13] atz | @sing barry white [13:38:15] zoia | Chorus / I've been around the world, lookin' from my baby / Been around the world, and I'm gonna / I'm gonna find him [13:38:22] dbs | MikeTaylor: suggestion: use wink or something similar to screencap your demo in advance [13:38:22] rsinger | no wait [13:38:25] JodiS | freecite is awesome. demo/online stuff fail... [13:38:26] atz | @more [13:38:26] zoia | atz: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. [13:38:27] naomi | MikeTaylor: pre-load all the screens [13:38:29] akorphan | MikeTaylor: if it's not too ajaxy, you could load it now. [13:38:29] jtgorman | dbs: maybe tomorrow or Friday I'll probably get to it :P [13:38:30] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7e83ac11abab2890] has joined #code4lib [13:38:30] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [13:38:30] JodiS | dbs++ [13:38:37] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fdc64570a219a64b] has joined #code4lib [13:38:37] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c8d6c31fdfad8c7] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:38:41] * MrDys is so glad he re-wrote his presentation to not be online-based...but you all are going to have to suffer through it [13:38:42] naomi | screens -> pages [13:38:44] mikeybe | yes!!! [13:38:51] rsinger | damn, was that preemptive to make me stop snarking? [13:38:54] mjg_ | I'm guessing a lot of library apps are going to be Google Gearsized between now and next year. [13:38:59] BillDueber | We need a conference server onto which presenters can load virtual machines with their apps. [13:39:00] naomi | MrDys: i hope it's a lightning talk ;-) [13:39:01] rsinger | shoe, you win this round. [13:39:10] BigD | @define insanity [13:39:11] zoia | BigD: Oh, we're going to post that job any day now - honest! [13:39:14] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: Font Police [13:39:14] MrDys | rsinger++ [13:39:21] eby_ | erikhatcher: i'm sure as soon as you get everything running locally it will be a conf that requires you to use their win 98 laptop they have hooked to the projector [13:39:24] MrDys | who throws a shoe, really? [13:39:40] ---| ---> anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-84.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:39:54] akorphan | "not 100% yet" [13:39:58] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f1161da42f23bf07] has joined #code4lib [13:39:58] akorphan | ...yet. [13:40:05] atz | the main thing w/ freecite is they took a widespread problem that is still small-enough to conquer definitively [13:40:10] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [13:40:13] rsinger | wait for it [13:40:14] BigD | $19.95! [13:40:14] ---| ---> bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-60919ab580b9b345] has joined #code4lib [13:40:23] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:40:25] erikhatcher | i've been reading Guy Kawasaki's "Reality Bites", where he describes how to give presentations to VC's.... his advice... 30pt fonts (though that is way too small for me in Keynote). he says if don't want 30 point fonts, take the age of the oldest person there, half it and use that font size [13:41:18] MikeTaylor | :-) [13:41:18] MikeTaylor | I haven't heard of wink, either. Got a URL? (Not that I'd be able to dereference it in the current climate.) [13:41:18] obligatory | no one here pays for anything but bacon and beer [13:41:18] JodiS | @forget JodiS [13:41:18] zoia | JodiS: OK, I've forgotten JodiS's URI [13:41:18] BigD | it's talis time [13:41:18] ---| <<-- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-16eadbadbdecf00e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:41:18] erikhatcher | rsinger: T O K I N G [13:41:18] JodiS | BigD: sounds like a party [13:41:18] bjy | wink++ [13:41:18] dbs | MikeTaylor: http://debugmode.com/wink/ [13:41:18] ---| <--- mib_45xj7421 [i=46a41941@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-30fc4fdad8d3b113] has left #code4lib () [13:41:18] JodiS | @know http://jodischneider.com/#me [13:41:18] zoia | JodiS: JodiS's URI is now [13:41:18] ---| ---> mib_45xj7421 [i=46a41941@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-30fc4fdad8d3b113] has joined #code4lib [13:41:18] JodiS | @knows JodiS bess [13:41:18] dchud | ugh, this data looks nasty in couchdb [13:41:18] zoia | JodiS: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:41:21] jmspargu | @know http://intranet.library.arizona.edu/users/spargurj/foaf.rdf [13:41:22] zoia | jmspargu: jmspargu's URI is now [13:41:24] dbs | freeware, not FLOSS, but oh well [13:41:37] mjg_ | I feel like every talk is a Led Zeppelin song the way that gong goes off. [13:41:42] JodiS | rjw++ [13:41:47] erikhatcher | naomi: yeah, no bullets is a good one. my theme had a nice yellow artsy bullet that looks like a sun, so i kept it :) [13:41:49] naomi | eby_: dos, you mean [13:41:49] naomi | begging_for_customers-- [13:41:49] naomi | did mibbit drop me again??? [13:41:53] liza31337 | I keep hearing it as 'make out session' [13:41:55] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5006d884e3ea8e61] has joined #code4lib [13:42:04] * BillDueber is aaaaalmost out of battery, and no plugs open. [13:42:04] liza31337 | Maybe that's why I went to the lounge yesterday [13:42:06] BigD | naomi: yes [13:42:10] ---| ---> Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-acbc11b6f72cff71] has joined #code4lib [13:42:15] naomi | erikhatcher: i didn't count your slides as having bullets [13:42:17] * JodiS notices "I <3 my validator" at validator.w3.org [13:42:24] timmcgeary | bless you [13:42:24] BigD | BillDueber needs a buddy breathe [13:42:25] MikeTaylor | Thanks for the wink URL. [13:42:35] BigD | i bet not [13:42:38] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f1161da42f23bf07] has quit (Client Quit) [13:42:43] kgs_ | MikeTaylor I PM'd you [13:42:46] edsu | svn ci [13:42:47] timmcgeary | awww, do I have to stop by bittorent of 24? [13:42:47] rsinger | @dunno search PLATFORMS [13:42:48] ejk | what happened to the dedicated connection for the presenters? [13:42:49] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #303: "HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR?" [13:42:51] edsu | oops wrong window [13:42:51] dchud | dunh. dunh dunh. dunh dunh dooka doo doo dooka do do. dunh dunh dooka doo doo dooka do do. in the daaaays of my yooouth i was shoooown what it meeeeans to be a cooooder... [13:42:56] ---| ---> mib_5gxqv67f [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a600f8c9b45c013f] has joined #code4lib [13:43:00] mib_xravnv97 | there is the room available all day for makeout sessions [13:43:15] mjg_ | I prefer OPAC Shakur [13:43:20] naomi | i just raised my hand, but i didn't hear the question ... hmm [13:43:25] BigD | breakingout is hard to do... [13:43:47] BigD | bastards [13:43:48] naomi | are you kidding? with Symphony, they're ecstatic to have relevancy ranked results and facets. [13:43:51] atz | more accents++ [13:43:53] anarchivist_ | @quote add < mjg_> I prefer OPAC Shakur [13:43:53] zoia | anarchivist_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [13:43:56] ---| User: *** anarchivist_ is now known as anarchivist [13:43:57] dchud | but my head is down reading the channle! [13:43:58] anarchivist | @quote add < mjg_> I prefer OPAC Shakur [13:43:59] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1746 added. [13:44:00] timmcgeary | mib_xravnv97: is that the whatever room? [13:44:07] erikhatcher | he's dreaming, thinking he's gonna get any bandwidth! [13:44:07] erikhatcher | MikeTaylor: not gonna use Solr? darn [13:44:11] rsinger | @dunno search please fix [13:44:13] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #288: "Results are different between this and old..." [13:44:18] ---| ---> sara__ [n=chatzill@79.sub-75-194-160.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [13:44:21] rsinger | @dunno get 288 [13:44:21] jrochkind102 | Just so you know, Umlaut does this. [13:44:22] zoia | rsinger: Dunno #288: "Results are different between this and old catalog. Please fix." (added by rsinger at 02:10 PM, February 05, 2009) [13:44:22] lbjay | this is going to better than i'd thought [13:44:27] lbjay | yep [13:44:28] jbrinley | clouds++ [13:44:32] BillDueber | Damn users, what with their wants and their needs and their lack of appropriate deference. [13:44:32] jfereira | best slide so far [13:44:32] JodiS | rjw++ #timing [13:44:33] obligatory | there's no gold in monument valley [13:44:41] bess | brilliant! [13:44:43] codemonkey | sound effect++ [13:44:48] edsu | drugs [13:44:48] timmcgeary | sound effect ++ [13:44:52] anarchivist | drugs++ [13:45:01] kgs_ | users. they are so broken [13:45:09] timmcgeary | greed++ [13:45:10] naomi | not_having_searchworks_in_slide-- [13:45:25] atz | theatre_effects++ [13:45:26] abarrera | mjg_++ [13:45:27] mjg_ | earthquake at table 8 [13:45:32] abarrera | and they can get it all for $19.95 [13:45:36] BillDueber | obligatory: All the gold in CA is in a bank in the middle of Bevery Hills in somebody else's name [13:45:39] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8b2df1d31ccc0775] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:45:50] BigD | abarrera's under the table looking for doritos [13:46:04] lbjay | what is it with talis and Hollywood quality powerpoints? [13:46:10] naomi | library_geek++ [13:46:15] erikhatcher | freecite++ [13:46:18] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3287d9e978cc1f6f] has joined #code4lib [13:46:19] jrochkind102 | Oh man, I wish I could have an Umlaut rebuttal. UMLAUT. [13:46:23] akorphan | modularization++ [13:46:23] lbjay | last year it was m{5}rob [13:46:24] abarrera | mjg_: BigD shifted in his chair? [13:46:33] akorphan | Muertly Crueh! [13:46:34] jbrinley | jrochkind102: interject a lightning talk [13:46:34] zoia | akorphan: turn it up! [13:46:36] naomi | er ... widgits? [13:46:38] MrDys | code4lib_as_job_title+- [13:46:44] anarchivist | qwidget-- [13:46:45] JodiS | what's the namespace for RDF "resource"? [13:46:51] atz | jrochkind102: lightning talk tomorrow? [13:46:56] liza31337 | Not Djuice? [13:46:58] dbs | jrochkind102: ask a question, "Being John Malkovich" style. "Umlaut, umlaut umlaut, umlaut. Umlaut!" [13:46:59] jrochkind102 | Yeah, I guess I should. [13:46:59] rsinger | lbjay: we don't actually make any code -- we just write keynote presentations all day [13:47:00] abarrera | Juice starring OPAC Shakur [13:47:01] lbjay | Djooss [13:47:02] JodiS | jrochkind: lightning talk!! [13:47:02] jmspargu | I like djuice [13:47:08] anarchivist | abarrera++ # quicker than i am [13:47:17] JodiS | ecorrado++ #timing from before :) [13:47:20] JodiS | ecorrado++ [13:47:23] jbrinley | djuice++ [13:47:25] ---| ---> eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f47ddc75cad61a85] has joined #code4lib [13:47:26] edsu | bzr push [13:47:28] anarchivist | djabberdjaw will implement (d)juice [13:47:33] edsu | damn, sorry mate [13:47:33] timmcgeary | djuice++ [13:47:34] anarchivist | bzr push it real good [13:47:36] abarrera | Free DJuice [13:47:40] timmcgeary | vufind++ [13:47:43] mjg_ | abarrera++ [13:47:51] akorphan | djreasemonkey [13:47:56] naomi | grease --> bacon [13:47:56] jbrinley | JodiS: http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns# [13:48:03] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [13:48:05] BigD | restless leg syndrome affects us all [13:48:05] dchud | DJuice looks like DJ Wheezy [13:48:11] miker_ | MikeTaylor: I have a present for you ... where are you sir? [13:48:12] BigD | especially at table 8 [13:48:16] gsf | vendor_wars++ [13:48:17] edsu | the whole web is dead [13:48:26] edsu | d'h edsu-- [13:48:27] anarchivist | monkeybacon++ [13:48:28] ---| ---> LibraryThingTim_ [n=LibraryT@249.sub-75-199-216.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [13:48:31] timmcgeary | ding dong, worldcat's dead... [13:48:38] gsf | more like vendor larping, really [13:48:38] mjg_ | dchud++ # good eye [13:48:38] ---| ---> mbs [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f8a536d2f323b712] has joined #code4lib [13:48:40] ---| ---> highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-15.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [13:48:40] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ecb2c7fbcfc319f1] has joined #code4lib [13:48:42] liza31337 | Djuke [13:48:52] anarchivist | djuke of url [13:48:56] mikeybe | this is a cool idea [13:48:59] ---| User: *** jbrinley is now known as djbrinley [13:49:01] eby_ | @hosts2010 --remove-shitty-bandwidth [13:49:02] ejk | liza31337++ [13:49:02] zoia | eby_: Asheville, NC [268]; Austin, TX [256]; Madison, WI [206]; Columbus, OH [147]; Bloomington, IN [121] [13:49:09] ---| ---> steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-181ff62122ad5671] has joined #code4lib [13:49:11] timmcgeary | anarchivist++ [13:49:17] edsu | nice relevancy ranking [13:49:19] ---| User: *** ejk is now known as edjk [13:49:23] naomi | "you don't want a call number browse; you want cover flow" [13:49:26] anarchivist | edsu: ur facets r showing [13:49:29] JodiS | jbrinley++ #that's what I was trying... hmmm.... [13:49:34] lbjay | @ana djuke and djive [13:49:35] zoia | lbjay: Junk jaded dive [13:49:40] LibraryThingT | Why can't coverflow be by call number? [13:49:45] djbrinley | edjk++ # that's the spirit [13:49:45] mjg_ | edsu: tuck it back, geez. [13:49:46] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [13:49:49] djbrinley | everybody now! [13:49:54] BigD | table 8 has magic fingers [13:49:58] anarchivist | i'm glad i never have to ever implement call number browse [13:50:05] anarchivist | # at least in my current job [13:50:07] naomi | LibraryThingTim_: coverflow isn't bad, but lots and lots of our titles don't really have useful covers [13:50:07] akorphan | LibraryThingTim_: Well, if you've got a sequential index of items by call number.... [13:50:12] erikhatcher | eby_: yeah... when i presented at the LoC (you can see it on the video), i had to present on their Windows PC.... i sent over my Keynote exported to PPT, and it lost the graphics! that was painful for a minute, then realized i had exported the PDF... and slideshowed that. [13:50:14] steambadger | This is much like dial-up access circa 1993. I'm having a nostalgia moment... [13:50:14] erikhatcher | pdf++ [13:50:16] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ed8f46a1ba51a674] has joined #code4lib [13:50:25] * BillDueber loves to think of coverflowing through acres of bound serials. "Black. Black. Black. Black...." [13:50:30] lbjay | 125 nicks [13:50:33] BigD | #AT [13:50:38] naomi | BillDueber++ [13:50:39] * akorphan is planning a call numberr coverflow app, and plans to make dummy covers for items we can't grab covers for. [13:50:44] timmcgeary | anarchivist: I need to create a Dewey CNB... :( [13:50:51] * JodiS has xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" and gets there is no attribute "rdf:resource". [13:50:52] JodiS | [13:50:52] BillDueber | How much more black could our serials be? None. None more black. [13:50:55] LibraryThingT | akorphan: talk to me about it? [13:50:55] ---| ---> gn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ac4134af7531c0df] has joined #code4lib [13:51:03] MikeTaylor | The difference is that in 1993 we weren't trying to demo AJAX apps. [13:51:05] anarchivist | timmcgeary: we use dewey, lc, and NYPL's own old call number system [13:51:10] JodiS | BillDueber: it's actually useful to know what you can skim faster when browsing [13:51:11] akorphan | LibraryThingTim_: Just an idea so far--still working on the call number index [13:51:14] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d5a3a63e1ecd310] has joined #code4lib [13:51:20] anarchivist | pat sAJAX [13:51:24] atz | naomi: several ILS/discovery layers do cover flow [13:51:24] wickr | JodiS: are you validating at validator.w3.org? I thought RDFa basically meant your page wouldn't validate [13:51:24] BigD | MikeTaylor: we were demoing FIDOnet apps [13:51:25] LibraryThingT | I'm thinking of making GIFs with burned-in titles. I'm tired of trying to put the words on with HTML. [13:51:27] MikeTaylor | Whatever happened to prioritising the MAC address of the podium PC? [13:51:29] djbrinley | JodiS: going for some RDFa? [13:51:33] ---| <<-- gn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ac4134af7531c0df] has quit (Client Quit) [13:51:36] * JodiS really like's mikebe's browsing [13:51:37] edjk | djewey [13:51:37] akorphan | LibraryThingTim_: But for missing covers we'd draw a box the right size with a pleasing background color and maybe the author and title listed in the box. [13:51:39] atz | (just not as sexy as the apple application version, of course) [13:51:43] naomi | akorphan: talk to me, if you haven't already [13:51:50] timmcgeary | anarchivist: i need to put it into VuFind - we are only dewey [13:51:51] JodiS | wickr: yes. it DID validate at one point [13:51:53] mjg_ | djuvenile fiction [13:51:58] akorphan | naomi: On my agenda, actually. [13:52:02] lbjay | this is javascript? [13:52:02] timmcgeary | ASSkaban++ [13:52:03] JodiS | djbrinley: trying RDFa, not succeeding so much [13:52:03] djbrinley | wickr, JodiS: you can get a XHTML+RDF DTD [13:52:06] mbklein | az-KAY-ban++ [13:52:09] akorphan | naomi: Find me at beer? [13:52:11] djbrinley | s/RDF/RDFa/ [13:52:12] atz | subject: "Magic Juvenile" [13:52:12] edjk | AzKayBin [13:52:16] LibraryThingT | I like visualizations, but coverflow is very limiting. [13:52:19] * anarchivist did it to dewey [13:52:22] JodiS | djbrinley: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd , right? [13:52:25] mib_xravnv97 | is that the one where snape kills dumbledore? [13:52:26] obligatory | @bartrnder [13:52:27] ---| ---> glennewton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d6644c3213d318fd] has joined #code4lib [13:52:27] LibraryThingT | I don't use it on iTunes. Maybe that's just taste. [13:52:27] zoia | obligatory: you need to build a SOA bridge and get over it [13:52:32] ---| ---> Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has joined #code4lib [13:52:33] obligatory | @bartender [13:52:33] ---| ---> g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5dcaee6f25507095] has joined #code4lib [13:52:33] wickr | djbrinley, JodiS will that pass valdiator.w3.org? [13:52:35] * zoia fills a pint glass with Brooklyn Lager, and sends it sliding down the bar to obligatory (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/45/148/) [13:52:39] MrDys | LibraryThingTim_: it's taste [13:52:42] naomi | i'm fine with coverflow. I just don't think it's sufficient. [13:52:45] jrochkind102 | I use coverflow on my ipod, more than on the desktop. [13:52:46] LibraryThingT | You use it a lot? [13:52:48] mbklein | @bartender obligatory [13:52:50] * zoia fills a pint glass with Miller High Life, and sends it sliding down the bar to obligatory (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/105/580/) [13:52:54] MrDys | LibraryThingTim_: regularly [13:52:58] LibraryThingT | I like words, words! :) [13:53:06] obligatory | @bartender royt martini [13:53:08] jrochkind102 | I think coverflow in a library catalog is a good way to replicate shelf-browsing for a virtual collection. [13:53:08] * zoia fills a pint glass with De Dolle Oerbier, and sends it sliding down the bar to royt (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/201/813/) [13:53:13] * akorphan plans cover-with-some-nice-metadata-flow [13:53:15] MrDys | max_headroom-- [13:53:16] BigD | max headroom! [13:53:16] cbeer | anyone tried safari 4 (and cover flow browser history, specifically?) [13:53:16] anarchivist | BUFFERING [13:53:17] ---| ---> robcaSSon [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ad32807c3150025e] has joined #code4lib [13:53:18] anarchivist | BUFFERING [13:53:18] timmcgeary | anarchivist: can I see? [13:53:18] dchud | that dude looks EVIL [13:53:19] BigD | heh [13:53:19] anarchivist | BUFFERING [13:53:21] edjk | he's a cylon [13:53:24] g8tor | anyone @code4lib using Colloquy? How are you getting on without mibbit [13:53:29] BillDueber | max_headroom++ [13:53:30] dchud | live and direct from network 23! [13:53:30] akorphan | BY YOUR COMMAND [13:53:31] LibraryThingT | Especially in IRC. [13:53:35] jrochkind102 | Has he met a committee before? [13:53:36] lbjay | they even smell smart [13:53:36] mouwd | edk: that's what I thought [13:53:41] rsinger | the_new_yorker++ [13:53:42] ---| <<-- LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@212.sub-75-195-44.myvzw.com] has quit (Connection timed out) [13:53:45] anarchivist | timmcgeary: oh, not call numberbrowse - ingesting the top two layers of dewey into a drupal taxonomy [13:53:46] erikhatcher | g8tor: colloquy working fine [13:53:46] dchud | g8tor: i am. yesterday i couldn't. no idea why. [13:53:46] naomi | i think shelf browsing is incredibly hard to do on a 15" monitor [13:53:47] mbklein | g8tor: Some people are tunneling via ssh, and others are just getting lucky. [13:53:55] JodiS | g8tr: Colloquy working here, but flaky [13:53:55] LibraryThingT | Um, I didn't leave the chat room. [13:53:57] bess | g8tor: I couldn't get colloquy to work, so I'm using mibbit instead. [13:53:59] timmcgeary | anarchivist: ooohh [13:54:01] rsinger | printed_words_that_aren't_the_new_yorker-- [13:54:03] JodiS | the_new_yorker++ [13:54:05] djbrinley | djQuery, metadjefs [13:54:05] * robcaSSon is in need of some freebase to stay awake [13:54:11] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dce5731f9627b4a6] has joined #code4lib [13:54:13] naomi | LibraryThingTim_: we were just hoping. [13:54:15] chickmarkley | getting_lucky++ [13:54:16] MikeTaylor | IQ of committee = IQ of dumbest member divided by total number of members., [13:54:19] * MrDys tosses robcaSSon the pipe [13:54:25] atz | digital_noise-- [13:54:34] anarchivist | robcaSSon: how about some acid and rjw's red rocks slide again [13:54:36] mbklein | chickmarkley: Mentally still in Hawaii? :) [13:54:39] rsinger | ah [13:54:40] g8tor | erikhatcher: not mone by the way great presentation [13:54:41] * bess is psyched for the freebase talk [13:54:48] mjg_ | robcaSSon: you need to move to our table. we have a well of natural energy beneath us. [13:54:52] MrDys | bess: temper your expectations [13:54:53] g8tor | so it isn't just me others are not getting it to work [13:54:53] chickmarkley | mbklein:aloha [13:54:56] MikeTaylor | metadef sounds like a Metal band. [13:54:57] BillDueber | People don't want shelf browsing. They want a "find similar" feature that doesn't suck. Shelf browsing still pretty much sucks. [13:55:01] mjg_ | one almost gets the sense that the world is shaking. [13:55:01] JodiS | just a little javascript, nice [13:55:11] dchud | imho this is a *much* more compelling talk than the one rjw gave two years ago [13:55:13] robcaSSon | jquery++ [13:55:15] anarchivist | dchud: agreed [13:55:20] mbklein | @band add Metadef Leppard [13:55:20] dcloutman | I like shelf browsing. [13:55:20] g8tor | JodiS: jquery Fn rules [13:55:21] zoia | mbklein: Band 'Metadef Leppard' added to list [13:55:25] jtgorman | BillDueber++ [13:55:25] * akorphan wonders how many different ways we have to demarcate metadata on our pages. [13:55:28] erikhatcher | everyone and their brother is building javascript injections this way.... talk about the wild west! [13:55:30] lbjay | dchud: agreed [13:55:32] jtgorman | dbs++ [13:55:33] anarchivist | reusable_pieces++ [13:55:34] jtgorman | BillDueber++ [13:55:36] erikhatcher | jquery++ [13:55:36] JodiS | BillDueber: people also want collection landscape info (interesting Irish project there, not sure what the status is) [13:55:38] naomi | BillDueber: agreed. hence my lightning talk. [13:55:38] dchud | rjw++ [13:55:39] jtgorman | dbs++ [13:55:39] lbjay | dchud: much better than the title suggested [13:55:41] ---| <<-- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ed8f46a1ba51a674] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:55:45] lbjay | rjw++ [13:55:46] anarchivist | rjw++ [13:55:47] mbklein | Metterdater++ [13:55:51] JodiS | rjw++ [13:55:52] * jtgorman runs around in happy circles [13:55:53] jrochkind102 | I like how he pronounces it metter-datter. [13:55:53] lbjay | mbklein++ [13:55:54] mbklein | rjw++ [13:55:56] jrochkind102 | mbklein++ [13:56:00] dbs | damn, now I wish I was there! [13:56:05] MrDys | mattar_paneer++ [13:56:05] BillDueber | Finally seeing the utlity of this -- they provide libraries of "find isbn"-type methods. [13:56:10] BigD | Gin and Juice [13:56:10] berick | dbs: srsly! [13:56:12] atz | LibraryThingTim_: you timed out [13:56:16] dchud | the best reason, period. [13:56:20] jrochkind102 | Umluat does this too! [13:56:24] mjg_ | laaaaaidback [13:56:34] * robcaSSon will stick to the indo [13:56:37] ---| <<-- jbfink [n=chatzill@PC-30523-l.lib.mcmaster.ca] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [13:56:38] chickmarkley | I propose hayek economic model in which JS agents bid for right to hijack items on page and augment them or link them at will [13:56:41] jrochkind102 | Mind on the metterdater, mettadater on my mind. [13:56:43] rsinger | jrochkind102: you should hook into the 'framework' [13:56:44] dchud | (did you see how i emphasized that "period" with a "."? stand back, i understand punctuation.) [13:56:46] * jmspargu mind -> $, $ -> mind [13:56:46] obligatory | wonder what impact this has on page load times? [13:56:46] ---| ---> LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@240.sub-75-196-46.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [13:56:53] BigD | jrochkind102++ [13:56:56] LibraryThingT | Richard is exactly right. [13:56:57] mbklein | "Hey! I can cut and paste; I can lay off my OPAC developer!" [13:56:58] djbrinley | chickmarkley++ [13:57:01] anarchivist | obligatory: it's lazyloaded i'm guessing [13:57:02] LibraryThingT | obligatory: You attach it to the onload. [13:57:05] JodiS | chickmarkley++ #new economic stimulus? [13:57:14] jrochkind102 | rsinger: Yeah, umlaut doesn't do the part of figuring out how to scrape your OPAC page. You're on your own for that part, with Umlaut. [13:57:26] mjg_ | Speaking of gin and juice, I'm thinking of another "breakout" at the Temple lounge. [13:57:27] ---| ---> jbfink [n=chatzill@PC-30523-l.lib.mcmaster.ca] has joined #code4lib [13:57:29] jrochkind102 | Umlaut does all the other parts, but not in javascript. [13:57:43] BigD | blimey! [13:57:47] robcaSSon | mjg_: +1 [13:57:48] LibraryThingT | This is basically the LibraryThing "connector." We need to figure out if we use this, contrbute to it or what. [13:57:51] chickmarkley | JodiS: I'm trying to figure out how to take a cut, a portion of which I will donate to the library community [13:57:56] cbarr | would be nice if it worked with various js frameworks to minimize overhead. vufind uses yui. [13:57:56] dcloutman | templeLoungeBreakout++ [13:57:59] abarrera | rollin' down the street smokin indo sippin on gin n djuice [13:57:59] JodiS | chickmarkley++ [13:58:01] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: probably both [13:58:03] mib_xravnv97 | anyone get that URL? [13:58:05] mbklein | mjg_++ eyes on the prize, my good man [13:58:06] jrochkind102 | Although Godmar too was trying to convince me that everything Umlaut does was better done client-side in js. [13:58:06] akorphan | You're going to have to hand-mark-out your metadata one way or the other, no? [13:58:08] JodiS | jrochkind102: more on javascript & accessibility would be useful [13:58:11] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: y'all need more reusable widgets [13:58:16] dlovins | juice-project.code.google.com [13:58:27] djbrinley | jrochkind102: rebuttal time [13:58:34] LibraryThingT | If you ask me, this is the most important talk so far. [13:58:39] BillDueber | cbarr: UMICH instance of vufind pushes in jQuery, 'cause...well, 'cause I'm too lazy to do it in yui. [13:58:42] akorphan | jonesday.com! [13:58:42] jrochkind102 | I'll do a lightning talk. [13:58:47] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f21b99ad377fd11] has joined #code4lib [13:58:55] ---| User: *** edjk is now known as ejk [13:59:05] mbklein | BillDueber: I <3 YUI. Now that I get it. But it was a bit of a learning curve. [13:59:06] * lbjay missed the google code project url for jice [13:59:07] MrDys | I can't tell if we should be having more lightning talks or not [13:59:12] lbjay | s/jice/juice/ [13:59:16] anarchivist | yui generis [13:59:20] MrDys | seems like a lot of things are suited for 5 minute demos/rebuttals [13:59:21] fak3r_ | now I'm thristy [13:59:25] mjg_ | LibraryThingTim: if you care about OPACs. :) [13:59:29] djbrinley | lbjay: look up about 20 lines [13:59:30] mjg_ | still, rjw++ # super neat. [13:59:42] jrochkind102 | That's LibX. [13:59:52] jtgorman | It took me slightly longer than BillDueber ;) [13:59:52] mbklein | Is djbrinley just jbrinley rewritten in django? [13:59:53] LibraryThingT | mjg_ Are you trying to get my blood pressure up? :) [13:59:53] chickmarkley | Firefox sitting idle with a few < 100 tabs consumes 18% of my cpu continuously [13:59:57] khatar | url doesnt work [14:00:08] anarchivist | chickmarkley: i've started using site specific browsers [14:00:09] jrochkind102 | Serous overlapping functionality here. Which I guess makes sense, we're all figuring out the right way to factor this stuff into components, and making different decisions. [14:00:12] akorphan | mmm... juice.... [14:00:12] mjg_ | LibraryThingTim: Why don't we discuss this over a QUADRUPLE ESPRESSO [14:00:25] mjg_ | LibraryThingTim: :) [14:00:28] jrochkind102 | But yeah, Godmar is probably thinking "LibX does ALL of this almost the same way you do it" right now. [14:00:29] LibraryThingT | Sounds relaxing. [14:00:31] rsinger | @throatpunch [14:00:33] zoia | rsinger: try the Caps Lock key? [14:00:36] akorphan | If I don't restart firefox on my work computer every couple of days, I find that it maxes out at consuming 1.6 gigs or so before it starts being unusable. [14:00:38] jtgorman | although to tell the truth, it really didn't take that long once I decided to just use the format BillDueber found since I had File_MARC... [14:00:40] mib_o57zxi | so how do I convince my reference librarians that users want links to amazon, google books, etc.? sitting on 2082 for months now. [14:00:42] djbrinley | mbklein: i djrank the djuice [14:00:44] rsinger | @THROATPUNCH [14:00:45] zoia | rsinger: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/consumerist/2009/01/aceadapter.jpg [14:00:45] mjg_ | rjw: do a djig! [14:00:48] chickmarkley | anarchivist: moiaussi [14:00:56] charper | rjw++ [14:01:00] jtgorman | mib_o57zxi: just do it? [14:01:02] jrochkind102 | akorphan: Do you have FF3? That problem went away for me with FF3. [14:01:02] mbklein | rsinger++ [14:01:05] anarchivist | chickmarkley: ah, g00d [14:01:09] LibraryThingT | yeah, I'd wave a pom pom if I could [14:01:10] jtgorman | mib_o57zxi: then track the usage [14:01:13] MikeTaylor | Yes, it's occurred to me that a lot of the projects we're doing here overlap with each other. I guess survival of the fittest will take care of that eventually, but of course what we really want is nice, agreed on APIs and protocols so we can mix and match components. [14:01:15] anarchivist | MrDys++ # making us all look like slobs [14:01:16] fak3r_ | akorphan: disable ext? [14:01:16] akorphan | jrochkind102: That's ff3 [14:01:22] LibraryThingT | Juice needs a stats package. [14:01:23] dchud | mjg_: isn't quadruple espresso that new rdf store eikeon was working on? [14:01:25] andyashton | beards++ [14:01:26] jtgorman | mib_o57zxi: also, you users want a text me function for call numbers ;) [14:01:28] mjg_ | MrDys++ [14:01:29] mib_xravnv97 | adding it to the server means peeps don't have to install libx to get the dom insertion benes [14:01:30] jrochkind102 | mib_o57zxi: with surveys or individual comments from your users. [14:01:33] obligatory | rjw's slides now linked on the program [14:01:34] kgs_ | does the next person need to go live? cuz there's a possible solution that requires several minutes to implement if so. otherwise we'll wait til break to try it out. [14:01:34] anarchivist | juice + google analytics = ??? [14:01:37] mjg_ | MrDys: saunter on, young man. [14:01:38] LibraryThingT | The LT connector has one now, and libraries lurve it. [14:01:42] akorphan | fak3r_: hmm. [14:01:48] * akorphan can't live without flashblock. [14:01:49] fak3r_ | MikeTaylor: but as you've heard again and again, everyone talks about hashing out standards, but few do [14:01:51] MikeTaylor | Firefox is the very worst browser, apart from all the others. [14:01:52] mbklein | mib_xravnv97: (who are you?) Exactly. No plugin. [14:01:58] jtgorman | jrochkind102: surveys are tricky because you're asking patrons about functionality that may not be obvious to them [14:02:04] ---| <<-- highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-15.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:02:05] jrochkind102 | MikeTaylor: See, the harder part is deciding what the proper lines between 'components' are. Few of our projects are exactly parallel, rather they end up _overlapping_ in significant but less than majority ways. [14:02:06] LibraryThingT | Which is kinda bogus, imho. [14:02:14] jtgorman | jrochkind102: but they might like...that whole 'jump' [14:02:16] MikeTaylor | fak3r_, we have invested A LOT of time into thrashing out standards. Too much maybe :-) [14:02:16] mjg_ | dchud: *snort* [14:02:19] mib_xravnv97 | there is a joke somewhere about having a lemon for an OPAC and making juice with it [14:02:23] lbjay | my eyes [14:02:24] MikeTaylor | jr, good point. [14:02:27] mjg_ | MrDys++ [14:02:30] akorphan | contrast++ [14:02:31] JodiS | MikeTaylor: "what we really want is nice, agreed on APIs and protocols so we can mix and match components." So, let's make that happen. What's the first step? [14:02:32] mbklein | MrDys++ [14:02:33] akorphan | eyes_bleeding-- [14:02:33] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [14:02:34] timmcgeary | orange-- [14:02:34] jrochkind102 | jtgorman: True, but you can provide a mock-up. You can come up with more clever research methods too. [14:02:39] fak3r_ | akorphan: `killall firefox; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old; firefox` [14:02:42] ---| ---> mib_4am0n4xt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d9a5d115d253439c] has joined #code4lib [14:02:47] rsinger | if this hurts your EYES it's coz you're OLD, GRANDPA [14:02:48] mbklein | MrDys++ # for doing a presentation instead of kicking my ass at video games. [14:02:54] rsinger | PUNK ROCK FOREVER [14:02:55] lbjay | intense+- [14:02:55] MikeTaylor | green--!!! [14:02:55] mbklein | IT BUUUUURRRRNS! [14:02:57] edsu | awesome [14:02:58] naomi | sean has great taste in color. [14:02:59] timmcgeary | green-- [14:03:00] djbrinley | color++ [14:03:01] mjg_ | MrDys says "WAKE UP YOU OLD FUCKERS" [14:03:03] mbklein | MrDys-- # for kicking my ass at slides [14:03:04] akorphan | fak3r: will try that, thanks! [14:03:05] erikhatcher | MrDys++ [14:03:08] robcaSSon | screwing_with_the_squares++ [14:03:10] timmcgeary | migraine_trigger-- [14:03:10] ejk | the taste of lymon [14:03:12] codemonkey | ouch.... that hurts [14:03:16] anarchivist | ejk++ [14:03:19] kgs_ | my eyeballs are bleeding [14:03:34] naomi | a little towards yellow -> inca cola! [14:03:37] anarchivist | kgs_: why don't you use the face spritz? i'm sure it'll make everything better [14:03:39] anarchivist | naomi++ [14:03:41] dchud | mib_xravnv97: see the talk titles from code4lib 2006 [14:03:41] LibraryThingT | kinda preppy [14:03:41] calvinm_ | guess the next color? [14:03:41] JodiS | next slide please? [14:03:43] mbklein | kgs: Check your camera. I think Sean may have burnt out the CCD. [14:03:43] ---| <<-- atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b7ee1350a1188f6b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:03:44] anarchivist | inca_kola++ [14:03:45] fak3r_ | krazy colours yo [14:03:48] rsinger | naomi: kola [14:03:49] rsinger | yeah [14:03:52] mib_o57zxi | just do it? that won't fly. nothing goes live w/o approval. not confident my users know they want it. they actually start with the catalog instead of amazon or something useful. [14:03:54] anarchivist | fak3r_: just wait [14:03:55] akorphan | promiscuous_records_policy++ [14:03:57] jmspargu | gin and djuice is a gateway drug. Now we're on to freebasing. [14:03:57] BigD | i can taste that green [14:03:57] * JodiS dons sunshades [14:03:58] rsinger | anarchivist++ [14:04:02] obligatory | IN SOVIET RUSSIA, NOTHING IS GREEN [14:04:05] charper | jrochkind102: does everyone at JHU have a large beard? [14:04:10] mjg_ | It's like a koala crapped a rainbow in my brain. [14:04:15] JodiS | blue better [14:04:21] obligatory | except the mold on the bread [14:04:23] anarchivist | charper: it's a requirement of employment [14:04:28] BigD | sooothing [14:04:32] JodiS | MQLQUERYSTRING? [14:04:36] JodiS | What's MQL? [14:04:38] jfereira | blue+yellow=green [14:04:45] jrochkind102 | mib_o57zxi: How do you know your users always start with the catalog and not amazon? [14:04:45] lbjay | JodiS: metaweb query language [14:04:46] gsf | @dunno search panda [14:04:48] zoia | gsf: 2 found: #127: "http://poopoopanda.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/..." and #185: "calm down, okay? Might I suggest RED PANDAS..." [14:04:49] steambadger | It's an amish IT company. [14:04:52] JodiS thanks lbjay [14:04:52] akorphan | blue:soothing; yellow: not so much. [14:04:52] akorphan | Oh. [14:04:54] mjg_ | JodiS: he's going there, I believe [14:04:56] gsf | @dunno get 127 [14:04:57] jrochkind102 | charper: Yes. Especially the women. [14:04:57] zoia | gsf: Dunno #127: "http://poopoopanda.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/poster63512997.jpg" (added by gsf at 12:40 PM, June 05, 2008) [14:04:59] * JodiS nods [14:05:06] MikeTaylor | JodiS, I think the first step is for us all to sign up to RESTfulness. It took quite a while for me before I got it, then I was al Ooooooohhhhhh, _I_ get it. [14:05:07] JodiS | no, it's JSON JSON JSON [14:05:10] BigD | spam [14:05:10] naomi | jonathan: your job is to review sean's color choices for ppt slides ... [14:05:14] ruest | badgers badgers badgers [14:05:21] BigD | MUSHROOM [14:05:22] mjg_ | json json json json json json SNAKE SNAKE [14:05:24] timmcgeary | were the backgrounds stolen from atari? [14:05:25] anarchivist | json_strips++ [14:05:26] JodiS | mjg++ [14:05:27] ejk | JSON JSON eggs sausage and JSON [14:05:27] robcaSSon | marcia marcia marcia [14:05:34] jrochkind102 | MrDys's beard used to be one of the biggest beards I'd ever seen, this is actually the trimmed version. [14:05:34] mib_o57zxi | re: how do I know? that is one thing I've asked some. (assumption: representative) [14:05:35] ---| <<-- fak3r_ [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("leaving") [14:05:36] kgs_ | My First Powerpoint (TM) [14:05:37] ---| ---> doylem [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d934d7c2d021518] has joined #code4lib [14:05:43] ruest | mjg++ [14:05:44] lbjay | From: MrDys [14:05:46] JodiS | MikeTaylor: are there serious alternatives to REST? Or just laziness/stuff not under our control? [14:05:48] jfereira | we don' need no steenkin' badgers [14:05:49] BigD | everyone drinks when he says json [14:05:51] lbjay | To: the slide police [14:05:59] ejk | fgcolor=rand(); bgcolor=rand(); [14:06:00] mbs | do the colors match the tie? [14:06:09] lbjay | Subject: GTFO [14:06:10] scotchko | those colors make me nauseous [14:06:11] mib_fhntkl | oooh, electric slide! [14:06:12] lbjay | EOM [14:06:21] scotchko | BigD: i'm in [14:06:22] JodiS | AcademyAwards-- [14:06:23] BigD | can anything match that tie? [14:06:25] LibraryThingT | They remind me of sherbet. [14:06:25] ---| ---> mpark [i=8094d869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-257267337b257ca5] has joined #code4lib [14:06:28] scotchko | JSON JSON JSON [14:06:29] jrochkind102 | mib_o57zxi: I'd bet you money that many of your users, much of the time, search on amazon for books. [14:06:41] mbs | ass++ [14:06:42] anarchivist | LibraryThingTim: it's to cleanse your palate :) [14:06:44] ---| <<-- Cicer0 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-acbc11b6f72cff71] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:06:45] mib_fhntkl | BigD: I can't see the tie anymore...just pink [14:06:46] JodiS | IMDB breaks, but freebase won't? [14:06:53] timmcgeary | brown on white ++ [14:06:58] ---| <<-- mib_5gxqv67f [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a600f8c9b45c013f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:06:58] mjg_ | Subtitle of this talk: JSON and the Psychonauts [14:06:58] ---| ---> endupok [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-93717862583776c4] has joined #code4lib [14:06:59] jrochkind102 | Those colors aren't random, I bet MrDys very carefully picked them. You just don't like them. [14:07:02] BigD | mmm, sherbet [14:07:04] obligatory | @hosts2010 [14:07:05] zoia | obligatory: Asheville, NC [271]; Austin, TX [253]; Madison, WI [206]; Columbus, OH [147]; Bloomington, IN [121] [14:07:08] lbjay | IT"S A RICKROOLL! [14:07:12] MikeTaylor | JodiS, I think the first step is for us all to sign up to RESTfulness. It took quite a while for me before I got it, then I was al Ooooooohhhhhh, _I_ get it. [14:07:12] MikeTaylor | I am going to have to look away from this talk. [14:07:25] timmcgeary | @hosts2011 [14:07:25] ---| <--- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [14:07:25] zoia | timmcgeary: Panic, Pennsylvania [92]; Cold Foot, Alaska [75]; Uncertain, Texas [74]; Gross, Nebraska [73]; Rambo Riviera, Arkansas [63]; Koopa, Colorado [16]; Odd, West Virginia [9] [14:07:26] JodiS | code4lib.mrdys.user.dev.freebaseapps.com [14:07:30] kgs_ | Easter colors! [14:07:33] edsu | sql++ [14:07:33] JodiS | http://code4lib.mrdys.user.dev.freebaseapps.com -- MrDys app to clone [14:07:43] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:07:44] JodiS | how do I clone an app? sign up first, I guess [14:07:44] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5584480ee3827eef] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:07:44] ---| <<-- tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2120a3c605c8306] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:07:44] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d5a3a63e1ecd310] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:07:46] MikeTaylor | JodiS, I think that the alternative to REST is whatever happens when we design web-services WITHOUT consciously thinking about RESTy principles. Not that they are rocket-science, really: when it comes down to it, I think REST just means "HTTP done right". But that is a big step. [14:07:51] mjg_ | in MrDys's brain when he thunk up these slides: "SELECT awful FROM colors;" [14:07:52] BigD | i invented jasql [14:07:56] ---| <<-- doylem [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d934d7c2d021518] has quit (Client Quit) [14:07:57] gsf | mql++ fits my brain [14:08:01] naomi | isn't that, like, swearing on national tv? [14:08:01] naomi | LibraryThingTim: his tie yesterday can match it. [14:08:01] naomi | ... inca ... kola ... [14:08:05] naomi | isn't that, like, swearing on national tv? [14:08:05] naomi | LibraryThingTim: his tie yesterday can match it. [14:08:05] naomi | ... inca ... kola ... [14:08:10] gsf | MrDys++ for the sql to mql translation [14:08:16] JodiS | MikeTaylor: ok. So, step 1 is REST. How do we get REST from our (other) vendors? [14:08:44] naomi | MQL > XML in slides? [14:08:47] djbrinley | why is the connection better in the mornings than in the afternoons? [14:08:49] edsu | the query by example is very similar to sparql [14:08:50] rsinger | JodiS: ... [14:08:58] abarrera | MrDys is trying to hypnotize the audience [14:09:03] scotchko | this is query language looks terrible [14:09:05] lbjay | is "type" not 1:many? [14:09:10] MikeTaylor | (Sorry my replies are so lumpy; I am getting silence for a minute or two, then an instant flood of messages.) [14:09:12] BigD | djbrinley: sunspots [14:09:23] scotchko | is it so hard to write a decent query parser, this is so much of a downer after the pretty cool citation parsing thing [14:09:23] JodiS | MikeTaylor: np. network-- autobahn-- [14:09:31] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-052721693630883c] has joined #code4lib [14:09:32] wtd | I wonder if he paints his aparrtment those colours. [14:09:32] BillDueber | scotchko: It's not so much a query language as an assertion set. [14:09:33] mib_xravnv97 | what does M in MQL staqnd for? [14:09:33] mjg_ | or liver spots for BigD [14:09:44] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22536b41a9dc7550] has joined #code4lib [14:09:46] ---| ---> highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b26bc4f572307f3a] has joined #code4lib [14:09:48] BigD | mjg_ i don't have a liver anymore [14:09:49] mjg_ | MONKEY [14:09:55] rsinger | JodiS: what do you think i'm trying to do? [14:09:56] ---| ---> vtd [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44282841a9f7efc9] has joined #code4lib [14:09:56] djbrinley | JodiS: put a wrapper around them [14:10:00] mib_xravnv97 | ah... thanks mjg [14:10:02] ---| ---> charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e13700ac87f4c58] has joined #code4lib [14:10:04] MikeTaylor | JodiS: if I knew that, I'd be out there coercing them all intead of typing this. [14:10:05] mib_fhntkl | monkey++ [14:10:05] naomi | MrDys: bullets_in_slides-- [14:10:17] jrochkind102 | MONGOOSE [14:10:20] MikeTaylor | The Information SuperGardenPah,. [14:10:26] scotchko | BillDueber: agree, mql is a misnomer [14:10:26] akorphan | json_pronounced_like_the_name++ [14:10:27] rsinger | @sing squirrel nut zippers : truant macaque [14:10:29] BigD | RIKITIKITAVI! [14:10:30] zoia | rsinger: No lyrics for truant macaque by squirrel nut zippers. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [14:10:30] mjg_ | @google mql [14:10:31] ---| <<-- mib_fhntkl [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f7a78b411f5ac749] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:10:32] zoia | mjg_: Search took 0.15 seconds: MQL4: automated forex trading, strategy tester and custom ...: ; emdros: A Corpus Query System. MQL query language: ; MQL - What does MQL stand for? Acronyms and abbreviations by the ...: ; MetaQuotes Language 4 - MQL4: ; The Complete Metaweb Query Language (2 more messages) [14:10:35] JodiS | rsinger: you rock! [14:10:54] JodiS | rsinger: so, you think jangle will fix step 1? [14:10:55] ejk | jaysahn++ [14:10:55] steambadger | MetaQuotes Language? [14:11:02] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-94be17abc71ff38c] has joined #code4lib [14:11:02] ---| <<-- sara__ [n=chatzill@79.sub-75-194-160.myvzw.com] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]") [14:11:06] mjg_ | json++ [14:11:08] anarchivist | @canuck json [14:11:09] zoia | anarchivist: json, eh? [14:11:10] mbklein | @acronym xql [14:11:12] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [14:11:16] ---| ---> mib_uyzups0n [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8e192bd3427420bc] has joined #code4lib [14:11:17] mbklein | @acronym MQL [14:11:18] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [14:11:19] naomi | sean's next career: fashion designer [14:11:21] mjg_ | @cyborg mql [14:11:23] zoia | mjg_: M.Q.L.: Mechanical Quantum Lifeform [14:11:25] JodiS | steambadger: metaweb language. metaweb == parent of freebase (company name) [14:11:27] rsinger | JodiS: that is the intention [14:11:31] Kerwick | rainbow_sherbert++ [14:11:36] obligatory | WTF? yet another templating language? [14:11:36] lbjay | MrDys++ # rainbow gradients [14:11:43] timmcgeary | i'm suddenly craving lifesavers [14:11:44] ---| ---> sgiv [i=8097bd41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-06c374983a975a7c] has joined #code4lib [14:11:46] ---| <<-- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f47ddc75cad61a85] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:11:48] anarchivist | sirsidynix_urls-- [14:11:52] kgs_ | that's the GLBT-supportive slide [14:11:56] anarchivist | hervert_sherbet++ [14:11:56] JodiS | rsinger: ok. sorry to be dense ;) what else needs to be done? [14:11:59] mbklein | implicit_looping++ [14:11:59] akorphan | @cyborg zzz [14:12:00] zoia | akorphan: Z.Z.Z.: Zealous Zoology Zombie [14:12:01] abarrera | skittles_background++ [14:12:04] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [14:12:05] obligatory | kgs++ [14:12:09] JodiS | kgs_: still not easy to look at [14:12:09] BigD | naomi: he'd be so HOT on that designer show with heidi klum i can't remember! [14:12:11] anarchivist | TASTE THE RAINBOW [14:12:11] MikeTaylor | I do think that everyone is gradually Getting It, though (us included -- I don't want to give the impression that I think ID has got it all sorted and we're just waiting for the rest of you to catch up!) [14:12:13] rsinger | JodiS: to get REST? [14:12:16] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has quit () [14:12:16] MikeTaylor | @rank rest soap [14:12:17] naomi | sirsidynix-- [14:12:18] zoia | MikeTaylor: tumidity terrifies cravenness [14:12:18] ---| ---> eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-563c48b2663c60cb] has joined #code4lib [14:12:29] scotchko | sorry to say, every next slides makes me like it less and less [14:12:33] lbjay | an oasis of black on white [14:12:40] gsf | subquerying? awesome [14:12:42] bess | JodiS: jangle is the spec for standarding restful access to ILSes [14:12:45] Kerwick | lbjay++ [14:12:49] naomi | kgs_+++ [14:12:50] anarchivist | gsf: agreed [14:12:52] lbjay | ahhh [14:13:00] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:13:04] rsinger | s/ILSes/things/ [14:13:07] MikeTaylor | You are lost in a maze of twisty background colours, all different. [14:13:16] mbklein kgs: Earlier when we were discussing the hybrid lbjay/royt creature, I thought about naming it lbyt, but that looks more like some kind of awareness organization. Though what the Y stands for is anyone's guess. [14:13:17] bess | JodiS: and we're well on track for having connectors for most of the commercial ILSes, plus the open source ones, plus Fedora, all with the same RESTful interface [14:13:17] cbarr | where is the Animal Collective soundtrack for this presentation? [14:13:22] andyashton | groovy [14:13:23] mjg_ | I think I'm having a fever dream. [14:13:25] JodiS | bess: ok, I know [14:13:26] bess | JodiS: pretty damn cool once we do it. [14:13:27] ---| ---> sdave [i=sdave@34.sub-70-198-50.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [14:13:29] anarchivist | cbarr++ [14:13:30] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4594f5a810051c47] has joined #code4lib [14:13:32] JodiS | bess: cool indeed! [14:13:40] naomi | MikeTaylor++ [14:13:40] BigD | reminds me of the screen saver called Plasma [14:13:42] mbklein | bess++ VERY cool [14:13:43] ---| ---> fak3r [n=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:13:44] bess | JodiS: I guess I didn't understand your question then. What were you asking? [14:13:46] ---| <<-- charper [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e13700ac87f4c58] has quit (Client Quit) [14:13:46] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3287d9e978cc1f6f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:13:46] ---| <<-- vtd [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44282841a9f7efc9] has quit (Client Quit) [14:13:48] ---| <<-- LibraryThingTim_ [n=LibraryT@249.sub-75-199-216.myvzw.com] has quit (Connection timed out) [14:13:48] scotchko | what if you want ot do an ORed search or exculde some terms? [14:13:50] obligatory | @cyborg lbyt [14:13:52] zoia | obligatory: L.B.Y.T.: Logical Battle and Yelling Technician [14:13:53] rsinger | i saw this slide getting made and it turned out exactly as i expected [14:13:54] rsinger | oh [14:13:55] wtd | My eyes! My beautiful eyes! [14:13:57] JodiS | bess, rsinger: this started with MikeTaylor looking at commonality between juice and libx2.0, and jrochkind saying 'well, I guess we have to try it before we can standardize'. So larger question is THAT... REST==MikeTaylor's idea of first step. Capice? [14:14:09] ejk | Dang, I was supposed to start Dark Side of the Moon at the first slide change [14:14:09] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [14:14:10] * jtgorman notes he's spent more time emailing/doing subcommittee meetings for this refworks/endnote export than he has actually working on the code [14:14:11] lbjay | @wordstats eyes [14:14:12] zoia | lbjay: Error: "eyes" doesn't look like a word I'm keeping stats on or a user in my database. [14:14:17] cbarr | http://www.paperrad.org [14:14:21] erikhatcher | psychadelic! [14:14:22] * jtgorman chides himself for letting that happen [14:14:24] ---| <<-- sgiv [i=8097bd41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-06c374983a975a7c] has quit (Client Quit) [14:14:28] mbklein | ejk++ [14:14:36] mjg_ | the white slides are kinda like quiet moments in Mogwai tunes. [14:14:37] * Janusman wonders if c4l is on lunch break or is everyone ignoring the presentations? [14:14:42] * jtgorman starts mentally shifting gears to work on another one of his projects [14:14:46] kgs_ | @song [14:14:46] rsinger | i guess i don't see the connection [14:14:47] zoia | kgs_: i think the lambada calculus could shed some light on your problem [14:14:47] ---| <<-- mpark [i=8094d869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-257267337b257ca5] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:14:53] * harmless waits for animated colour cycling... [14:14:55] kgs_ | @lyrics [14:14:57] zoia | kgs_: Work involves walking, talking, hearing, using hands to handle, feel or operate objects, tools, or controls, and reaching with hands and arms. Vision abilities required by this job include close vision and the ability to adjust focus. [14:15:05] kgs_ | @sing [14:15:05] zoia | kgs_: (sing ) -- Usage: sing artist [: title] [: * | line | pattern] -- Example: @sing bon jovi : wanted dead or alive -- Fetches lyrics from LyricWiki.org [14:15:07] djbrinley | Janusman: you'd ignore these slides if you could [14:15:08] jfereira | tiedye [14:15:11] Kerwick | Janusman: we are listening, we just can't stare at the slides without burning our eyes out [14:15:12] jtgorman | Janusman: you can tell when it's lunch because that's when people aren't in channel ;) [14:15:16] ---| <<-- papo [i=mathias@libic042.ethz.ch] has quit ("Verlassend") [14:15:19] MikeTaylor | Just to be clear, I am not at all claiming that REST is The Answer -- just that it helps us to think in ways that are more likely to help us find answers. [14:15:20] kgs_ | @sing jimi hendrix purple haze [14:15:22] zoia | kgs_: No songs found by jimi hendrix purple haze [14:15:28] Janusman | =) [14:15:34] ---| <--- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-563c48b2663c60cb] has left #code4lib () [14:15:36] lbjay | @ana kinda like a join [14:15:36] ---| ---> eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-563c48b2663c60cb] has joined #code4lib [14:15:38] zoia | lbjay: OK jail inane kid [14:15:40] kgs_ | @sing jimi hendrix : purple haze [14:15:41] zoia | Purple haze all over my brain / Lately things don't seem the same / Actin' funny, but I don't know why / 'Scuse me while I kiss the sky [14:15:45] akorphan | @sing the cure : so what [14:15:47] zoia | Give your cakes and pies a professional look / With this superb decorating set... / I'm not meant to be here / But so what? [14:15:47] erikhatcher | more like magic mushrooming than freebasing [14:15:47] erikhatcher | boring, black on white [14:15:47] ---| <<-- highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b26bc4f572307f3a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:15:50] gsf | mbklein: http://rc98.net/zoialog [14:15:54] ---| ---> jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d07d9d6a2806d072] has joined #code4lib [14:15:54] rsinger | i mean, i don't see where REST comes into play for a 'js widget framework' [14:15:57] mib_xravnv97 | so basically this is about using MQL (whatever that stands for? monkey, perhaps?) to query freebase databases... amirite? [14:15:57] mjg_ | I am amazed that so much sound can escape the hirsute gravity of that man's face. [14:16:08] * Janusman didn't get a new version of Millennium-Drupal module out in time for c4l :6 [14:16:11] JodiS | Janusman: MrDys talking about freebase, http://code4lib.mrdys.user.dev.freebaseapps.com/ [14:16:20] ---| ---> vtd [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c44b1b1fa49edb86] has joined #code4lib [14:16:22] akorphan | normal colored slide! [14:16:25] JodiS | Janusman: c4l10! [14:16:27] JodiS | white++ [14:16:31] akorphan | this_slide++ [14:16:31] mjg_ | the "event hairizon" of sorts [14:16:37] obligatory | did he run out of colors? [14:16:42] Janusman | JodiS: =) [14:16:45] ejk | mjg_++ [14:16:47] ---| <<-- codemonkey [i=46a41939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15b3434b3b943660] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:16:49] erikhatcher | rsinger: REST is so abused as a term... anyone with an HTTP interface says they're REST these days. (even Solr kinda says that, but it's a lie) [14:16:50] Kerwick | @sing pink floyd : comfortably numb [14:16:52] zoia | Now I've got that feeling once again / I can't explain, you would not understand / This is not how I am / I have become comfortably numb [14:16:56] ---| ---> frb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3b13ff6680dbee41] has joined #code4lib [14:16:58] BigD | RESTian [14:17:06] ---| <<-- LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@240.sub-75-196-46.myvzw.com] has quit () [14:17:09] scotchko | erikhatcher: agree [14:17:12] fak3r | Janusman: I was looking at that last week, looked cool [14:17:13] smkiewel | floyd++ [14:17:13] jwn | ran out of way colorful backgrounds [14:17:20] obligatory | mjg_'s neck ferret is jealous of MrDys' face bear [14:17:27] scotchko | REST is so much more then XMLoverHTTP [14:17:28] MikeTaylor | Right, Erik. I was guilty of the same thing for a long time -- I even used to say that SRU was RESTful. (blush) [14:17:31] mjg_ | obligatory++ [14:17:31] ---| ---> charper [n=charper@HARPER.BOBST.NYU.EDU] has joined #code4lib [14:17:35] gsf | hope no one is using sensitive passwords for identifying with zoia [14:17:36] rsinger | face_bear++ [14:17:44] liza31337 | There weren't any more colors [14:17:48] mbklein | MrDys is giving up coding in favor of electro-batik [14:17:49] fak3r | he keeps saying sort, but I think he's saying "sword" [14:17:50] mbklein | MrDys is giving up coding in favor of electro-batik [14:17:50] mbklein | @sing jimi hendrix : purple haze [14:17:52] zoia | Purple haze all over my brain / Lately things don't seem the same / Actin' funny, but I don't know why / 'Scuse me while I kiss the sky [14:17:53] akorphan | I once had a math prof who explained why they don't use a dot to represent inner product in linear algebra: [14:17:56] JodiS | liza31337: white is ALL the colors! [14:17:56] mbklein | MrDys is giving up coding in favor of electro-batik [14:17:56] mbklein | @sing jimi hendrix : purple haze [14:17:57] Janusman | fak3r: thanks, just put in 500% faster crawl (at least for our OPAC) =) [14:17:58] zoia | Purple haze all over my brain / Lately things don't seem the same / Actin' funny, but I don't know why / 'Scuse me while I kiss the sky [14:18:01] jmspargu | @sing prince : purple rain [14:18:02] zoia | I never meant to cause you any sorrow / I never meant to cause you any pain / I only wanted one time to see you laughing / I only want to see you laughing in the purple rain [14:18:06] ---| ---> mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c9f34a5fdfd19c41] has joined #code4lib [14:18:11] mbklein | If it's not the colors it's the curly braces. [14:18:13] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: Cohen, Dan: The American Historical Association Announces the Roy Rosenzweig Fellowship for Innovation in Digital History || Engard, Nicole: New Facebook Pages Layout || del.icio.us: http://code4lib.mrdys.user.dev.freebaseapps.com/ || del.icio.us: juice-proje [14:18:17] djbrinley | @pirate [sing jimi hendrix : purple haze] [14:18:18] jwn | so who was the youngest academy award winner this year? [14:18:18] akorphan | "We don't use a dot because we want to avoid notation that's overused. So instead, we do it as an ordered pair in parentheses." [14:18:19] zoia | djbrinley: Purple haze all over me brain / Lately thin's don't seem th' same / Actin' hardyharhar, but I don't be knowin' why / 'Scuse me while I kiss th' sky [14:18:23] robcaSSon | mbklein++ # electro-batik [14:18:26] fak3r | http://online.fail.ftw/ [14:18:29] mjg_ | jwn: Ledger [14:18:30] gsf | his background now contains ALL the colors [14:18:34] MikeTaylor | Oh, "sort" -- that makes WAY more sense. [14:18:39] djbrinley | @ana Actin' hardyharhar [14:18:39] scotchko | but what REST gives you is a uniform interface - that's very useful when creating interoperable services [14:18:40] rsinger | @sing prince : purple tie, purple sweater, purple slides [14:18:40] zoia | djbrinley: Ha Ha! Randy, rich rat [14:18:43] zoia | rsinger: No lyrics for purple tie, purple sweater, purple slides by prince. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [14:18:43] mjg_ | acc. to Stefano at least. [14:18:44] ---| <<-- siznax [n=chatzill@adsl-69-109-191-87.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]") [14:18:44] steambadger | We're querying this db using the music of the Modern Jazz Quartet? [14:18:48] ---| <<-- vtd [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c44b1b1fa49edb86] has quit (Client Quit) [14:18:48] ---| <<-- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-563c48b2663c60cb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:18:51] liza31337 | I should stop blindly typing laggy 'sudo rm' commands on a remote server and hitting enter before I see what I actually typed [14:18:52] kgs_ | @lolz [sing jimi hendrix : purple haze] [14:18:55] zoia | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [14:18:56] obligatory | @sing king crimson [14:18:57] zoia | Instrumental [14:18:59] JodiS | scotchko: uniform ~= standard, yeah, I get that --- Log closed Wed Feb 25 14:19:04 2009 --- Log opened Wed Feb 25 14:19:23 2009 [14:19:23] ---| ---> lbjay [n=lbjay@li25-184.members.linode.com] has joined #code4lib [14:19:24] -!-| Irssi: #code4lib: Total of 126 nicks 0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 126 normal [14:19:24] rsinger | scotchko: i don't think REST gives you that [14:19:24] zoia | now entering the ring: jay filthy luker [14:19:25] -!-| Irssi: Channel: Join to #code4lib was synced in 4 secs [14:19:28] fak3r | developing in a browser window sounds like hell to me [14:19:31] erikhatcher | one of these days someone will contribute a new Solr servlet filter (that's all that fronts what's underneath) that does paths differently, and uses DELETE properly, etc. so in theory it's trivial to put true REST semantics on top of a Solr [14:19:37] dchud | neato, am writing braindead marc queries in javascript w/couchdb. not as nice as MQL but i could see how to mimic MQL. [14:19:46] scotchko | unlike SOAP where instead of having unfoirm interface you try to describe your interface and hope that somebody will be able to figure out the semantics behind it [14:19:55] MikeTaylor | Jakub, are using "=~" to mean "not equal" or "regular expression match"? [14:19:57] gsf | mbklein: but can be changed if necessary [14:20:02] mbklein | gsf++ thanks [14:20:09] ---| ---> eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-41f37803d6a452fb] has joined #code4lib [14:20:10] akorphan | how many query languages do we need? [14:20:17] rsinger | scotchko: really, i don't see how REST changes that [14:20:18] ---| ---> vtd [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d351fed8ce5d0ea6] has joined #code4lib [14:20:24] robcaSSon | freebase++ [14:20:28] gsf | mbklein: not a fan of all the feed activity [14:20:32] jfereira | @sing King Crimson : Cat Food [14:20:32] JodiS | Have a freebase login, now trying to figure out where to go to clone MrDys' app [14:20:34] zoia | No use to complain / If you're caught out in the rain; / Your mother's quite insane. / Cat food cat food cat food again. [14:20:44] mbklein | heh "URLError: " [14:20:51] ---| <<-- Hammer [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-367b65d13617cab9] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:20:53] MikeTaylor | One; CQL. [14:20:54] gsf | feeds== [14:20:56] mbklein | speaklolcat.com has cut us off explicitly. [14:20:58] gsf | feeds-- [14:21:05] JodiS | MikeTaylor: ~= as approx. equal [14:21:17] fak3r | @sing Violent Femmes : Blister In The Sun [14:21:19] zoia | When I'm out walkin', I strut my stuff -- yeah, I'm so strung out. / I'm high as a kite; I just might stop to check you out. / Let me go on... like I blister in the sun. / Let me go on... big hands, I know you're the one. [14:21:25] MikeTaylor | Let's put it this way: while we can all agree that REST is not a silver bullet, it does at least seem to be a zinc bullet. [14:21:25] scotchko | rsinger: REST is all about a strict CRUD interface, you have four operations and that;s it [14:21:31] scotchko | isn't that uniform? [14:21:46] jwn | at elast he had his cardigan swaeter on [14:21:49] mbklein | @unload lolz [14:21:50] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [14:21:52] mjg_ | I am now in withdrawal. ONE MORE FIX, MrDys! [14:21:53] rsinger | scotchko: sure -- but how do you have any idea what to apply that against? [14:21:54] dchud | MrDys++ # great demo! [14:21:55] MikeTaylor | It doesn't help that there doesn't seem to be a lot of good REST documentation out there. [14:22:01] abarrera | mjg_: go describe the templeBreakOut [14:22:03] lbjay | wow my irssi channel log was at 26MB [14:22:06] JodiS | @votes2010 [14:22:07] rsinger | MrDys: yeah, awesome [14:22:08] zoia | JodiS: a chinferret? see http://www.tricyclebicyclecycle.org/dys/mg.jpg [14:22:08] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [14:22:12] ---| <<-- dlacy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9691ed40d381e30f] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:22:12] MrDys | JodiS: were you able to clone it? [14:22:14] obligatory | @hosts2010 [14:22:15] rsinger | MrDys: the SQUARES couldn't HANDLE IT [14:22:15] zoia | obligatory: Asheville, NC [271]; Austin, TX [259]; Madison, WI [209]; Columbus, OH [147]; Bloomington, IN [121] [14:22:15] JodiS | @code4lib2010 [14:22:17] zoia | JodiS: Oh, we're going to post that job any day now - honest! [14:22:18] wtd | Seven corners in this room? Now that's non-Euclidean geometry. [14:22:18] JodiS | obligatory++ [14:22:19] dchud | gyrelow? [14:22:20] mbklein | Gee-Larry-Oh? [14:22:21] liza31337 | lounge++ [14:22:23] mjg_ | MIKE GELATO [14:22:23] ---| <<-- sdave [i=sdave@34.sub-70-198-50.myvzw.com] has quit () [14:22:25] djbrinley | "gilario" [14:22:26] robcaSSon | squares-- [14:22:27] decasm | gilario [14:22:29] anarchivist | gerardo [14:22:31] dchud | mmm, gelato... [14:22:31] BigD | jellybellyario [14:22:32] JodiS | MrDys: no, where do I go to do that? [14:22:33] gsf | mike jellyhairlio [14:22:34] anarchivist | rico_suave [14:22:34] lbjay | gilario++ [14:22:39] mbklein | giardia [14:22:39] edsu | sn't it gigaloario? [14:22:40] miker_ | mjg_: mike "meatface" gelato [14:22:43] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:22:46] JodiS | MrDys: started at http://acre.freebase.com/ [14:22:46] mjg_ | gsf++ [14:22:47] decasm | gigalo [14:22:49] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-181ff62122ad5671] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:22:49] ---| <<-- mib_ios7tb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-163280deadcaeefe] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:22:51] anarchivist | we made dchud crack up [14:22:51] ---| <<-- jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d07d9d6a2806d072] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:22:56] Kerwick | wtd: actually 8, but we need to negate gravity to use all of them ;-) [14:22:58] ---| <<-- fak3r [n=phil@wsip-70-164-25-92.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ("leaving") [14:23:00] BigD | more like giggle-alo [14:23:00] edsu | miker_++ [14:23:00] jrochkind102 | NOT QUICK ENOUGH. [14:23:01] MrDys | JodiS: go to http://acre.freebase.com, and in the box that comes up, one of the tabs is called "apps by user" put in "mrdys" and you will see everything I've made [14:23:02] mjg_ | ecorrado++ # I'm coming for you, you son of a bitch. [14:23:02] anarchivist | he's turning red in the face [14:23:03] ---| <<-- dcloutman [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-41.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:23:04] scotchko | you obviously need to know the entities (resources) the system uses, but you discover the functionlity on your own [14:23:10] edsu | i can hear him [14:23:14] scotchko | that;s muhc simpler [14:23:18] edsu | in the back :) [14:23:25] akorphan | these descriptions are not much more helpful than the list of choices. [14:23:30] mbklein | RIP Lolz (for now) [14:23:31] ---| <<-- jchphilly [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d60b2ccbaaabe250] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:23:33] rsinger | mjg_: hey, jello head -- are you going to announce 'temple breakout'? [14:23:40] * miker_ == mike "meatface" r_ [14:23:51] mjg_ | ecorrado: You may feel safe standing up there on the podium, but hell awaits you in IRC. [14:23:52] MikeTaylor | It doesn't help that there doesn't seem to be a lot of good REST documentation out there. [14:23:52] MikeTaylor | Which may be because it's more of a philosophy than a technology. [14:24:00] edsu | "smash glass breakout" [14:24:04] MrDys | JodiS: it will also probably show up in the "recent apps" tab named Code4Lib [14:24:07] wickr | akorphan++ [14:24:08] mbklein | kgs++ [14:24:09] ---| <<-- tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4594f5a810051c47] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:24:11] lbjay | kgs++ [14:24:13] ---| <<-- ksdrake [i=46a41967@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-07c2de9dd8734d0a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:24:14] jrochkind102 | I'd like o sell you a bridge. [14:24:16] BigD | shampoobottle++ [14:24:16] anarchivist | @quote add < dchud > sometimes you're just in the mood to get tickled [14:24:17] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1747 added. [14:24:18] mbklein | A breakin session would be more exciting, I think. [14:24:22] ---| <<-- asl2 [n=asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [14:24:26] jrochkind102 | what happened to blacklight? [14:24:26] dchud | THAT IS SO TRUE [14:24:29] jrochkind102 | aha! [14:24:31] mjg_ | ecorrado: enjoy your life while it lasts. 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[14:25:10] ---| <--- jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f21b99ad377fd11] has left #code4lib () [14:25:10] akorphan | breakin? [14:25:14] dchud | jar leo [14:25:18] anarchivist | @herald gett mbklein [14:25:19] zoia | anarchivist: That's pretty sick, you might want to cleanse your palate with http://mintymlp.blogspot.com/ [14:25:20] edsu | breakdance [14:25:21] anarchivist | @herald get mbklein [14:25:22] zoia | anarchivist: ALL RISE [14:25:25] JodiS | MrDys: ok, found the html view. where do I clone? [14:25:28] dchud | @dance [14:25:30] zoia | o/ [14:25:31] zoia | /| [14:25:31] liza31337 | breakup [14:25:32] zoia | >> [14:25:38] dchud | aww [14:25:40] mjg_ | @mf ecorrado [14:25:41] zoia | Hey, ecorrado... [14:25:42] zoia | .-. [14:25:43] zoia | |-| [14:25:44] ---| <<-- ruest [n=ruest@wsip-70-164-25-64.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:25:44] zoia | | | [14:25:46] zoia | _.-|=|-. [14:25:46] zoia | / | | | | [14:25:47] zoia | | |\ [14:25:48] zoia | | / [14:25:49] zoia | \ /` [14:25:50] mbklein | BLACKLIGHT IN THE FING CANDLE ROOM [14:25:50] zoia | | | [14:25:54] mbklein | NOOOOOOO [14:25:57] ---| <<-- mib_in9nwh [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9cc9e2fe846adbfc] has quit (Client Quit) [14:26:01] ---| <<-- cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fb4f072f02272998] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:26:01] ---| <<-- domnat [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dc09cb15f0f5e6e4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:26:02] erikhatcher | ahhh, mozart [14:26:04] dchud | i'm going to sit somewhere and hack on marc in couchdb w/javascript [14:26:04] mbklein | ecorrado Mind Read Fail [14:26:07] timmcgeary | get a handel on scriblio [14:26:07] scotchko | whats the search engine thing about [14:26:09] mjg_ | ecorrado: "corrado", you poser. [14:26:09] scotchko | ? 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[14:27:14] scotchko | BEER BREAKOUT SESSION [14:27:31] ---| <<-- btw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d9a21a3d4ec0336d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:27:43] MikeTaylor | We should have a beer-fuels IS Rest The Answer? session. [14:27:49] MikeTaylor | I wish I'd suggested THAT ten minutes ago, [14:27:51] ---| <<-- jrochkind102 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a27f0bae1b9c8ca] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:27:54] scotchko | :) [14:28:26] ---| <<-- mib_45xj7421 [i=46a41941@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-30fc4fdad8d3b113] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:33] liza31337 | I'm carrying my laptop open to the lounge in the hopes that it will stay online [14:28:34] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-70.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [14:28:42] ---| <<-- Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-94be17abc71ff38c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-052721693630883c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-325c60b8b7a4befa] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c0b2deb50d1a82f0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- mikeybe [i=46a4192a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e5b2ea32e7effb5] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- abarrera [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f468a11d49ea3469] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- gbilder [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dce5731f9627b4a6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- dlovins [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8252213ff0c6ef1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- naomi [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b70c2be631e73110] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:51] ---| <<-- djbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fdc64570a219a64b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:28:55] ---| <<-- charper [n=charper@HARPER.BOBST.NYU.EDU] has quit ("leaving") [14:29:03] akorphan | @lyrics soul coughing : super bon bon [14:29:04] zoia | akorphan: you can buy one of those from LITA [14:29:10] JodiS | liza31337: works for me so far [14:29:28] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit () [14:29:34] akorphan | @sing soul coughing : super bon bon [14:29:36] zoia | to rise, to rise, to rise. / Too fight that you must cut clean. / You got to take the elevator to the mezzanine, / Chump, change, and it's on, Super bon bon [14:29:50] ---| <<-- shoe [n=shoe@ip24-250-63-6.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [14:29:51] ---| <<-- harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22536b41a9dc7550] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:29:51] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5006d884e3ea8e61] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:30:04] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit () [14:30:51] ---| <<-- cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7e83ac11abab2890] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:30:52] ---| <<-- mib_2bv9f9 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49cf0dfbbb43b64d] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:31:30] MrDys | @hosts2010 [14:31:32] zoia | MrDys: Asheville, NC [274]; Austin, TX [259]; Madison, WI [211]; Columbus, OH [147]; Bloomington, IN [122] [14:31:52] ---| <<-- smkiewel [i=46a41963@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3860a5746a42d828] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:32:14] ---| ---> shoe [n=shoe@ip24-250-63-6.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [14:32:24] ---| <<-- jphipps [i=root@208.113.196.10] has quit ("Leaving...") 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[14:41:02] akorphan | The Children's Museum is fun if you've got that type in tow. [14:41:08] akorphan | The RISD museum, also good [14:41:36] dlovins | akorphan: Thanks. [14:42:08] akorphan | If you haven't just gone around downtown for a bit of a walk, it can be nice. The riverwalk is a pleasant half-hour. [14:42:37] wickr | dlovins: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Conference_Buzz#Things_To_Do:_Saturday-Friday and the section below it if you haven't seen it [14:42:38] akorphan | Roger Williams Park and Zoo has a nice little museum too, with a fossil of an ancient terrapin with armored eyeballs. [14:42:59] akorphan | That alone is worth the price of admission. 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[14:52:10] mbklein | Who's going to Darien for drupal4lib? [14:52:30] ejk | mbklein: I am [14:52:57] ---| <<-- lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has quit ("Lost terminal") [14:53:12] ---| ---> travisgere [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-09099b0a9ab71285] has joined #code4lib [14:53:57] ---| <<-- Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has quit ("adios!") [14:54:36] mjg_ | newport++ [14:54:57] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-541b266cda26b6fd] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [14:55:58] mjg_ | ecorrado: this affront will not soon be forgotten. [14:56:39] ---| <<-- travisgere [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-09099b0a9ab71285] has quit (Client Quit) [14:57:03] * jtgorman was at Newport, didn't see the mansions... ;) [14:57:20] jtgorman | there's a decent brewpub in the area though, can't remember the name [14:57:23] akorphan | Also, best tattoo shop in Rhode Island is Anchor Steam Tattoo Gallery, downtown Newport. [14:57:45] mbklein | ejk: Cool. [14:57:52] mjg_ | inkshops++ [14:59:00] ---| ---> abarrera [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6089e29cb591a72] has joined #code4lib [14:59:39] jtgorman | may have been the Coddington Brewing Company, which I guess is in Middletown [14:59:46] jtgorman | had decent seafood too [14:59:56] akorphan | middletown ~= newport [15:00:03] akorphan | plus or minus a bridge. 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[15:12:20] birkin | antonio, possible excuses decreasing! :) [15:12:30] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@waffle.umdl.umich.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:12:54] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [15:12:57] lbjay | birkin: what is "werewolf"? [15:13:17] lbjay | ooh, /me just remembered [15:13:23] ---| ---> smkiewel [i=46a4196f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22328903037b9a89] has joined #code4lib [15:13:23] ---| <<-- smkiewel [i=46a4196f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22328903037b9a89] has quit (Client Quit) [15:13:30] birkin | game i heard about reading pycon posts a while back [15:13:50] ---| ---> smkiewel [i=46a4196f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-183fc8a2196a9455] has joined #code4lib [15:14:03] birkin | ...and then sxsw posts too -- had to try it and it was fun, so a couple of providencegeeks.org folk will run a game here for those interested [15:14:37] birkin | informal, no experience necessary [15:16:03] ---| <<-- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-41f37803d6a452fb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:16:03] ---| ---> gsf__ [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [15:16:09] ---| <<-- decasm [n=decasm@wsip-70-164-25-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:16:18] * kados reads scrollback from the airport [15:16:23] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 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[15:25:30] ---| ---> papo [n=mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #code4lib [15:25:37] jtgorman | dbs: that's ok, the MARC filter doesn't take MARC in either [15:25:47] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ec6db847884796b] has joined #code4lib [15:25:57] jtgorman | akorphan: yeah, ditto. i sent them an email a week ago saying "Do any of your MARC filters actually take MARC?" [15:25:57] dbs | what about "MARC Format (UTF-8)" ? [15:26:30] jtgorman | dbs: I didn't get that to work with a true marc file [15:26:41] jtgorman | dbs: but of course there could be other mistakes [15:26:45] kados | does anyone know about MIME types for iso2709 or marcxml? do any exist? and if not, can we register them somehow? 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[15:27:57] ---| <<-- yott [i=8094c564@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a61c177fbe3e79c8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:27:58] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:28:01] kados | jtgorman++ [15:28:05] ---| <<-- highermath_c4l09 [i=46a41915@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bf7c1fd28c32e545] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:28:42] jtgorman | dbs: starts wtih LEADER, has the leader after a space. Fields are separated by a newline. subfields (except the first subfield) have |x content where x is the subfield indicator.. [15:28:49] jtgorman | lisppaste3: help [15:28:49] lisppaste3 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/code4lib and enter your paste. [15:29:40] ---| ---> codemonkey [i=46a41977@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c7d060a3d4b9816] has joined #code4lib [15:29:43] dbs | jtgorman: ah, sounds kinda like yaz-marcump -o line [15:29:45] ---| <<-- JodiS_ [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [15:29:54] lisppaste3 | jtgorman pasted "a "marc" file that works for refworks direct export" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/76166 [15:30:16] jtgorman | that works with "MARC Format" [15:30:38] ---| ---> asl2 [n=asl2@76.193.16.193] has joined #code4lib [15:31:32] jtgorman | dbs: could be [15:33:20] jtgorman | that's outputted by a script I have and the parameters &filter=MARC+Format&database=All+MARC+Formats in the call back seems to work [15:33:32] ---| ---> mib_ns8e3tll [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-246b4678b310191a] has joined #code4lib [15:33:42] jtgorman | I probably need to play with making sure it's utf-8 frendly but that's an exercise for another day [15:33:46] ---| ---> wtd [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:34:25] ---| ---> beppu [n=beppu@67-207-149-155.slicehost.net] has joined #code4lib [15:34:41] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:35:07] ---| ---> danbri [n=danbri@193.72.18.170] has joined #code4lib [15:35:55] JodiS | @hosts2010 [15:35:57] zoia | JodiS: Asheville, NC [280]; Austin, TX [262]; Madison, WI [213]; Columbus, OH [149]; Bloomington, IN [123] [15:36:15] jtgorman | dbs: just checked, MARC+Format+(UTF-8) also likes that file format where it was throwing up on some MARC files I had that ...well, seem to follow the actual MARC standard and that both File_MARC and MARC::File seem happy with [15:36:17] mib_ns8e3tll | join [15:37:39] dbs | refworks-- [15:38:03] jtgorman | dbs: I think it's partially historical legacy though... [15:38:16] jtgorman | dbs: I mean, they have a bunch of filters for all different types of MARC [15:38:29] royt | asheville has it in the bag [15:38:33] dbs | next question, I guess, is have they documented the "Refworks XML" format somehwere? [15:38:44] jtgorman | dbs: all I could find were links saying that they have not [15:38:59] ---| ---> cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has joined #code4lib [15:39:04] ---| <--- mib_ns8e3tll [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-246b4678b310191a] has left #code4lib () [15:39:27] ---| ---> mib_ns8e3tll [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-246b4678b310191a] has joined #code4lib [15:39:52] ---| <<-- vtd [i=46a4193e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d2e37764b9752dc] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:39:53] ---| <<-- mib_ns8e3tll [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-246b4678b310191a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:40:07] ---| ---> vtd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-82b98cb1e3f48df3] has joined #code4lib [15:40:09] ---| <<-- bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-60919ab580b9b345] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:40:26] ---| ---> shanlera61 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e331bd8953493106] has joined #code4lib [15:40:53] ---| <--- mjg_1 [n=mjg@wsip-70-164-25-97.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [15:41:12] dbs | jtgorman: just Refworks Tagged Format (http://www.refworks.com/refworks/help/Refworks.htm#RefWorks_Tagged_Format.htm) [15:41:16] dbs | refworks-- [15:42:35] ruest | refworks-- [15:42:40] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cdaf394ea8ea3f0a] has joined #code4lib [15:43:05] jtgorman | crud, thought i had found it [15:43:25] jtgorman | I mean, i thought I had bookmarked that "unofficial" page and now I can't find it agian [15:43:38] ---| <<-- ruest [n=ruest@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [15:44:03] jtgorman | I don't know if I can decrement refworks too much. I mean at least they have some documentation...and I was able to get something that worked pretty quickly [15:44:07] jtgorman | endnote however... [15:44:09] jtgorman | endnote-- [15:44:11] jtgorman | endnote-- [15:44:44] ---| <<-- codemonkey [i=46a41977@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c7d060a3d4b9816] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:45:36] jtgorman | actually, now that I think of it it was probably the endnote xml format [15:45:45] jtgorman | crud still, I can't believe I didn't bookmark that [15:46:10] ---| <<-- jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ec6db847884796b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:46:12] papo | uh xml endnote format [15:46:14] wickr | geez, ed vielmetti has made like 50 edits to the wiki today [15:46:31] ---| ---> siznax [n=siznax@qblorp.archive.org] has joined #code4lib [15:46:33] papo | when I hear my coworker swear in the office next to ours, I know it's because of endnote [15:46:43] papo | he's converting this xml stuff somehow [15:47:10] ---| <<-- gbilder [i=46a4196a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-09647057936d64d1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:47:33] ---| ---> abarrera [i=46a41955@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79c17771a081de75] has joined #code4lib [15:47:37] ---| <<-- dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [15:47:45] akorphan | @ana akorphan [15:47:46] zoia | akorphan: Ha! On park [15:48:11] ---| <<-- shanlera61 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e331bd8953493106] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:48:18] zoia | New news from planetcode4lib: del.icio.us: JSON Diff || Lederman, Sol (Federated Search Blog): Authors respond to “One Box to Search Them All” review (part II) || Bigwood, David: Preliminary Authority Records || Engard, Nicole: Libraries that Twitter chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-52.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:49:02] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=jbrinley@wsip-70-164-25-83.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:49:11] ---| <<-- abarrera [i=46a41955@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79c17771a081de75] has quit (Client Quit) [15:49:21] jbrinley | woohoo! IRC works again! 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Let's stop letting on more people. [15:52:02] * jtgorman suspects endnote is a prduct that has been bought and transferred so many time the current owners are just keeping it going because it doesn't cost much to keep it as it is [15:52:07] gsf | close the nets! [15:52:08] edsu | mjg_++ [15:52:12] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cdaf394ea8ea3f0a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:52:17] ejk | first 20 IPs win [15:52:19] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4005ff45e17d268c] has joined #code4lib [15:52:31] ---| ---> shanlera61 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dad9bf67fadcbf84] has joined #code4lib [15:53:15] gsf | first come, first serve, that's the code4lib way [15:53:17] akorphan | white_wolf_games+- [15:53:19] anarchivist | @quote random [15:53:20] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #388: " there are no underpants in academia" (added by ksclarke at 12:08 PM, September 01, 2006) [15:53:22] ---| User: *** highermath is now known as highermath_c4l09 [15:53:29] ---| ---> jstirnaman [i=46a41928@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-26d7eb6aaa49b58a] has joined #code4lib [15:53:34] BigD | fireball! [15:53:34] mjg_ | ecorrado: only if I can kill you. [15:53:47] ejk | lightning bolt, lighning bolt [15:53:50] MrDys- | pew pew [15:53:51] calvinm_ | where's the d&d room?? [15:53:54] ---| ---> cdc [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e314ccf5b63fe2fa] has joined #code4lib [15:53:54] ---| User: *** MrDys- is now known as MrDys [15:53:54] mjg_ | mafia hits a bit too close to home for a person w/ surname "GEEYARLEEOHLEEOHHHH" [15:53:56] akorphan | handel, I think? [15:54:08] ---| ---> dlovins [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-059ee6937b1895a1] has joined #code4lib [15:54:13] ---| <<-- smkiewel [i=46a4196f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-183fc8a2196a9455] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:54:19] abarrera | mjg_: you're a rat [15:54:21] gsf | can you be a mage in werewolf? [15:54:23] jtgorman | @dnd [15:54:23] zoia | jtgorman: strength:15 dexterity:10 constitution:11 intelligence:11 wisdom:8 charisma:12 [15:54:26] ---| ---> mib_0u0vzo [i=46a41972@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b55e1f7f8c7f8a65] has joined #code4lib [15:54:27] gsf | if you can't be a mage, i don't want to play [15:54:29] wickr | akorphan: handle is for werewolf [15:54:29] robcaSSon | werewolf hits a bit too close to home for me [15:54:33] ---| ---> atz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e72219129cf0f63f] has joined #code4lib [15:54:34] wickr | lol [15:54:39] ---| <--- ruest [n=ruest@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [15:54:40] mjg_ | robcaSSon++ [15:54:48] MrDys | robcaSSon: cut your hair, hippie [15:54:55] scotchko | everyone prepare for bacon! [15:55:01] * mjg_ registers a persistent silver bullet for werewolf at handel.net [15:55:04] jtgorman | gsf: worlds of darkness had a whole game called mage and the games were at least somewhat compatible if I remember correctly [15:55:08] abarrera | robcaSSon: still recovering from being shot with a silver bullet? [15:55:11] MrDys | mjg_: nerrrrrrrrrrd [15:55:15] robcaSSon | youse_guys++ [15:55:16] ---| ---> mib_al7bayth [i=46a4193b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4b03c756f4172501] has joined #code4lib [15:55:16] ejk | wolf! wolf! wolf! 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[15:56:11] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:56:14] ejk | I saw robcaSSon riding on the top of Style's van last night [15:56:16] abarrera | mjgiarlo++ [15:56:22] robcaSSon | ejk++ [15:56:26] atz | "1/2 Off Games every Wednesday" at D&B: http://www.daveandbusters.com/Locations/default.aspx?Loc=178 [15:56:31] mjg_ | BigD++ # for suffering many morons [15:56:32] akorphan | accents++ [15:56:35] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cfd9cf55477bc936] has joined #code4lib [15:56:43] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:56:43] ---| ---> liza [i=root@tak.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [15:56:47] akorphan | crazy_internationalness_of_lil_ol_code4lib++ [15:56:47] ---| ---> dlacy [i=46a41929@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-11b352d6346249e9] has joined #code4lib [15:56:50] robcaSSon | this shit is SOOOOO sweet [15:56:51] jtgorman | actually, nwo that I think about it I seem to remember having to do some hammering to get some of the vampire/werewolf stuff to work in the original games... [15:56:52] gsf | robcaSSon++ my own werewolfness goes back to http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Gabriel_Hounds [15:56:55] robcaSSon | pay attention [15:56:57] ---| User: *** liza is now known as liza31337 [15:57:04] erikhatcher | bacon++ [15:57:08] edsu | hot off the skillet more like [15:57:16] lbjay | @cyborg BACON [15:57:17] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-67e90c907885e308] has joined #code4lib [15:57:18] zoia | lbjay: B.A.C.O.N.: Biomechanical Artificial Construct Optimized for Nullification [15:57:20] ecorrado | trade_secrets_out_of_bag++ [15:57:23] anarchivist | dinosaur_jr++ [15:57:25] dbs | jtgorman: ah, of course, I could always export some records from refworks in their XML format and reverse engineer their shit. awesome. [15:57:26] robcaSSon | indexdata++ [15:57:28] * jtgorman never really got into vampire [15:57:31] jbrinley | royt: no, I don't have permission to edit code4lib.org pages. I'll keep a list and send it to you. [15:57:35] erikhatcher | BaconML [15:57:38] mbklein | The entire conference is congregated around the podium. [15:57:43] ---| ---> LibraryThingTim [n=LibraryT@161.sub-75-221-45.myvzw.com] has joined #code4lib [15:57:44] edsu | metacrapsearch [15:57:44] ---| ---> steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-72da9f0c71b0bcc1] has joined #code4lib [15:57:45] ejk | @ana [cyborg BACON] [15:57:46] atz | high_wire_lightning_talk++ [15:57:48] anarchivist | dinobacon++ [15:57:48] zoia | ejk: Blob anarchic emaciation [15:57:50] jtgorman | dbs: well, that's pretty much what I'm settling on doing with endnote [15:57:52] wickr | jbrinley: I'll give you access [15:57:55] akorphan | edsu++ [15:58:00] jbrinley | wickr++ [15:58:07] LibraryThingT | . [15:58:19] BigD | someone tell ray he's standing in front of the screen [15:58:21] ---| ---> codemonkey [i=46a41977@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2ad352c51dbce71] has joined #code4lib [15:58:22] gsf | mbklein: sitting on the podium, near the lectern [15:58:28] ---| ---> decasm_nomad [n=decasm@wsip-70-164-25-26.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [15:58:29] gsf | mbklein: too be accurate [15:58:30] ---| ---> mib_b979i1bk [i=46a41966@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c123b0a76689c48] has joined #code4lib [15:58:38] gsf | ha [15:58:41] gsf | s/too/to/ [15:58:48] gsf | <-- morno [15:58:48] wickr | jbrinley: done [15:58:49] jtgorman | I'd much, much rather just use MARC so that the citation managers do all the work [15:58:57] jbrinley | wickr++ # thanks [15:58:58] akorphan | This is macro authoring for web queries! [15:59:00] anarchivist | jsonmarc++ [15:59:08] robcaSSon | point_and_click_connector_builder++ [15:59:09] dbs | jtgorman: agreed [15:59:11] abarrera | BigD: throw you shoe at him [15:59:19] gsf | marcjson++ [15:59:31] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aedf97626009cd57] has joined #code4lib [15:59:33] anarchivist | json_and_the_marconauts++ [15:59:50] lbjay | mbklein: that's actually still the OLE breakout group. they're still meeting. [15:59:51] rsinger_ | this is like my logitech harmony remote thing [15:59:53] edsu | this is a scraper builder? [16:00:04] akorphan | edsu: looks like, more or less. [16:00:16] robcaSSon | edsu: pretty much...it's neat [16:00:18] mjg_ | MikeTaylor++ [16:00:19] erikhatcher | magic++ [16:00:20] mjg_ | magick++ [16:00:23] mbklein | magick++ [16:00:31] * mjg_ heard a "k" [16:00:32] robcaSSon | indexdata++ [16:00:35] akorphan | This tool relies on quality HTML. [16:00:38] ---| ---> jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d0b00d710bf6868c] has joined #code4lib [16:00:46] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4195e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fa7f9ee45e0e268c] has joined #code4lib [16:00:54] * ecorrado wants bacon flavored beer [16:00:59] gsf | magic > as if by magic [16:01:06] kados | akorphan: no it doesn't, just HTML that has patterns in it :) [16:01:13] akorphan | magic ~= rigged demo [16:01:16] lbjay | Raymond Schwartz! Sit down! [16:01:19] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a4196a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-14caa4aa0a308fc2] has joined #code4lib [16:01:30] mjg_ | so, uh, what was that and how can I get it? [16:01:31] mbklein | MikeTaylor++ [16:01:38] * jtgorman wishes he knew what people were talking about [16:01:38] anarchivist | indexdata [16:01:42] mjg_ | elm is the hack. [16:01:45] * kados guesses the lightning talk is mike taylor showing off the new translator framework [16:01:45] anarchivist | indexdata++ [16:01:47] mjg_ | elm++ [16:01:47] liza31337 | maturity-- [16:01:53] kados | indexdata++ [16:01:54] anarchivist | adult_services++ [16:01:58] mbklein | gsf: Not just "magic" or "as if by magic" but "powered by...Magick" [16:01:58] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [16:02:04] ---| <<-- vphill_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-54.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [16:02:05] abarrera | seriously-- [16:02:07] BigD | i am unmaturing [16:02:07] gsf | satchmo_schtick++ [16:02:08] mbklein | emorgan++ [16:02:10] anarchivist | "for mature library audiences only" [16:02:13] ecorrado | fillabusters++ [16:02:16] BigD | beard award! [16:02:16] mjg_ | emorgan: I want your money. +1 [16:02:23] ---| ---> endupok [i=46a41931@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-32fd574e93394a12] has joined #code4lib [16:02:23] ---| ---> birkin [n=birkin@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:02:25] mjg_ | BigD++ [16:02:26] LibraryThingT | Nice idea. [16:02:28] gsf | like mellon? with lots of money? [16:02:31] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a41949@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53141839a935980d] has joined #code4lib [16:02:34] robcaSSon | emorgan++ [16:02:34] kgs | cardigans++ [16:02:38] mjg_ | "Best Chinmunk" [16:02:43] ejk | the baconie [16:02:46] atz | "open source software... for adults" [16:02:47] anarchivist | the mjg_ memorial bacon award [16:02:47] abarrera | mjgiarlo++ [16:02:48] akorphan | @sing cardigans : carnival [16:02:50] zoia | Come on and love me now / Come on and love me now / Come on and love me now / Carnival came by my town today [16:02:51] LibraryThingT | Bacon. RIght [16:02:51] codemonkey | winner will get free registration++ [16:02:54] ---| ---> smkiewel [i=46a4196f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34cc7fbcf2b02e37] has joined #code4lib [16:02:55] robcaSSon | voting++ [16:02:57] mib_al7bayth | what was the name of the firefox extension just shown in previous lightning talk? [16:02:58] ecorrado | bacon_award++ [16:03:00] abarrera | anarchivist++ [16:03:02] liza31337 | committees-- [16:03:04] atz | codemonkey: good idea [16:03:06] MrDys | anyone care to enlighten me on how to add my slides to the conference wiki page? [16:03:07] jbrinley | Connector Framework [16:03:11] gsf | mib_al7bayth: magick [16:03:12] BigD | i'm selling kneecapping services to guarantee you the award [16:03:13] abarrera | "Best Bacon Picture" [16:03:14] jwn | so why did he bring the book? [16:03:15] ---| <<-- kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aedf97626009cd57] has quit (Client Quit) [16:03:15] ---| ---> frb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4bfd8eaa3beb0f1e] has joined #code4lib [16:03:17] royt | or uses bacon [16:03:20] mib_al7bayth | jbrinley thanks [16:03:20] mjg_ | emorgan: SHOW ME THE MONEY [16:03:22] kgs | we could get Niman Ranch to sponsor it [16:03:24] jbrinley | solr can't win every year [16:03:25] ---| ---> naomi [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fd8a4a2635414e4e] has joined #code4lib [16:03:27] cbarr | would the trophy have golden bacon? [16:03:31] anarchivist | they should get a thong [16:03:33] lbjay | @band add Mike and the Chinmunks [16:03:34] wickr | MrDys: send them to royt [16:03:35] zoia | lbjay: Band 'Mike and the Chinmunks' added to list [16:03:41] mbklein | When emorgan mentioned this last night, I suggested the "potential open source project" award. Give the award to a project that has announced its *intention* to go OS, and hold the money in escrow until they release. [16:03:41] abarrera | anarchivist++ [16:03:45] mjg_ | lbjay++ [16:03:46] atz | big moneys! [16:03:48] abarrera | emorgans_money++ [16:03:49] gsf | that's like $4000! [16:03:50] anarchivist | the ejm memorial stimulus package [16:03:51] ejk | woah [16:03:51] edsu | elm++ [16:03:52] LibraryThingT | The MAN. [16:03:52] LibraryThingT | Can we approve by acclamation! [16:03:54] akorphan | three_large++ [16:03:54] ecorrado | money++ [16:03:55] ---| ---> JodiS_ [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:03:58] royt | "The Eric Lease Morgan Memorial Open Source Software Award" [16:04:00] mjg_ | elm++ # I like the idea. [16:04:03] jwn | Maybe that is his check book. [16:04:05] jtgorman | mbklein++ [16:04:05] mbklein | memorial++ [16:04:05] JodiS_ | elm++ [16:04:07] naomi | he's not dead yet [16:04:08] MrDys | memorial... [16:04:11] mjg_ | I will take your dirty Jesuit cash. [16:04:18] endupok | GIANT check [16:04:21] abarrera | mjgiarlo++ [16:04:21] ecorrado | no memorial, just award [16:04:23] mjg_ | elm++ [16:04:23] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-803498ef30e07efd] has joined #code4lib [16:04:24] naomi | Eric Lease Morgan Bacon Open Source Software Award [16:04:25] anarchivist | the royt "open source supporter" memorial thong [16:04:30] charper | elm++ [16:04:30] shanlera61 | they are CSC, not jesuit [16:04:33] BigD | mjgiarlo: god hates you [16:04:37] robcaSSon | beer++ [16:04:39] atz | ELMOSSA4lib++ [16:04:43] erikhatcher | ppt-- [16:04:46] gsf | y'all suck at math [16:04:46] akorphan | anarchivist: You mean the "open source supporter" athletic supporter? [16:04:48] jtgorman | damn google spellcheck [16:04:54] naomi | akorphan++ [16:04:54] anarchivist | akorphan: no, i mean thong [16:04:57] jtgorman | why is it applying it automatically [16:04:58] mjg_ | kat3++ [16:04:59] abarrera | gsf++ # i saw your math [16:05:03] BigD | how much is she going to give? [16:05:07] ecorrado | kat3++ [16:05:08] ---| ---> dsuchy [i=46a41932@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0666e94cff2dd826] has joined #code4lib [16:05:10] ---| ---> emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:05:14] jtgorman | anyone have a link to said "Magick" firefox plugin? [16:05:19] ---| ---> mbs [i=46a41945@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d570a79e99ef0938] has joined #code4lib [16:05:20] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:05:21] * ecorrado pladges 25 cents [16:05:25] ecorrado | pledges [16:05:28] anarchivist | kat3++ [16:05:29] mbklein | jtgorman: Not released yet. [16:05:33] MrDys | royt: what's yer e-mail? [16:05:33] scotchko | hey Guys the plugin has not been yet released [16:05:36] mbklein | teaser_lightning_talk-- [16:05:36] naomi | ... "magick bacon " OSS ... [16:05:37] * abarrera pledges mjgiarlo's credit card [16:05:41] gsf | jtgorman: http://rc98.net/macaddress [16:05:43] mjg_ | joe_(canhas)_atzberger++ [16:05:46] ejk | @rate pladges pledges [16:05:46] anarchivist | gsf++ [16:05:46] jtgorman | gsf++ [16:05:47] scotchko | we just delivered it to a client yesterday [16:05:49] ---| ---> mib_pasbiuro [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b73b1403643f9703] has joined #code4lib [16:05:50] zoia | ejk: pladges: ?; pledges: 1.6. pledges sucks! [16:05:55] timmcgeary | elm++ [16:05:57] BigD | mjg: 1154 5324 6468 2345 [16:05:59] jwn | plugin tease [16:06:06] naomi | lemon ... no, wait ... bacon pledge [16:06:13] mbklein | Magick Bacon > Django Unicorns [16:06:14] * ecorrado will donate one pound of bacon to award winner [16:06:20] * JodiS_ wonders how much bacon $1000 will buy [16:06:20] rsinger_ | i will now lick all of the furniture [16:06:21] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:06:23] ---| User: *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger [16:06:25] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4191e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-433b66fc2c81d95f] has joined #code4lib [16:06:30] ---| ---> MikeTaylor [i=46a41918@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1636ed7905a482c] has joined #code4lib [16:06:32] scotchko | the magic that fuels the CFBuilder is called XPattern [16:06:34] * anarchivist will donate 100 lolcats [16:06:34] erikhatcher | "that's pretty cool" [16:06:46] scotchko | there will be a ltalk on it later I guess [16:06:55] rsinger | may a 1000 lolcats bloom [16:06:57] lbjay | someone get chick a hammock [16:07:07] ---| <--- scotchko [i=46a41916@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-16a8edddd6ccd3d0] has left #code4lib () [16:07:12] mjg_ | lbjay++ [16:07:13] * ecorrado wishes the cleaning people would use some ajax at work [16:07:19] anarchivist | ecorrado++ [16:07:23] anarchivist | binghamton+- [16:07:29] * mjg_ gets rsinger with a spray bottle [16:07:33] rsinger | @hosts2010 [16:07:34] ---| ---> scotchko [i=46a41916@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-16a8edddd6ccd3d0] has joined #code4lib [16:07:35] BigD | ecorrado: just give them root [16:07:35] zoia | rsinger: Asheville, NC [283]; Austin, TX [268]; Madison, WI [213]; Columbus, OH [149]; Bloomington, IN [123] [16:07:35] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [16:07:37] mbklein | ecorrado: You want them to be able to change parts of your office on the fly? [16:07:41] naomi | ajax + bacon pledge = bacon bomb [16:07:43] anarchivist | mjg_: use kgs' face mist [16:07:47] timmcgeary | @hosts2011 [16:07:48] gsf | @later tell kat3 does the wordpress post "modified date" get updated when inserted things get updated? [16:07:48] zoia | timmcgeary: Hooker, Oklahoma [88]; Hicksville, Ohio [87]; Hell, Michigan [83]; Odd, West Virginia [15] [16:07:49] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. [16:07:51] mjg_ | ecorrado-- # dude, my name has < 7 syllables. [16:07:53] ecorrado | kat3++ [16:07:53] * mib_b979i1bk wants a standing desk at work [16:07:55] BigD | wow TX is getting crushed [16:07:57] gsf | kat3++ [16:08:00] BigD | remember the Alamo [16:08:03] mjg_ | ecorrado++ # for putting out the announcement. :) [16:08:08] rsinger | Mike Jello Face [16:08:08] gsf | still at 15 [16:08:11] lbjay | BAM! [16:08:24] mib_b979i1bk | 5 starting....now! [16:08:27] ---| User: *** mib_b979i1bk is now known as fak3r [16:08:29] rsinger | T O K E [16:08:40] liza31337 | What [16:08:40] abarrera | mjgeeaaralleo++ [16:08:40] ---| <<-- birkin [n=birkin@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [16:08:42] mjg_ | @band add Jello Face and the Dead Chinnedys [16:08:42] fak3r | toke++ [16:08:43] zoia | mjg_: Band 'Jello Face and the Dead Chinnedys' added to list [16:08:43] rsinger | T O K E [16:08:43] erikhatcher | i wonder if microsoft does usability studies and realizes no one ever hits F5 [16:08:51] JodiS_ | erikhatcher++ [16:08:54] royt | don't bogart that joint [16:08:54] lbjay | @hussein Toke Eskildsen [16:08:56] mbklein | Isn't "Bits & Speed" a Raquel Welch / Bill Cosby movie from the 70s? [16:08:56] zoia | lbjay: Out! Heedless kinkiness [16:08:56] JodiS_ | usability++ [16:09:10] fak3r | deferred-- [16:09:17] akorphan | lightning_fail [16:09:21] robcaSSon | he needs a breakout. [16:09:24] kgs | JodiS: about 18 of these: http://www.amazon.com/Niman-Ranch-Bacon-Sampler/dp/B000X9Q5UW/ [16:09:27] BigD | anarchivist could do a talk on that talk [16:09:27] JodiS_ | erikhatcher: you can now save as a presentation so PPT opens in "slideshow" mode. [16:09:29] naomi | he needs to break. [16:09:33] fak3r | lighting_strike [16:09:34] JodiS_ | kgs++ [16:09:35] ejk | It's almost 4:20... [16:09:37] mbklein | file:/// reference URLs-- [16:09:37] robcaSSon | becky++ [16:09:47] jwn | epic lightning faikl [16:09:49] fak3r | from ohio [16:09:52] bess | becky++ [16:09:53] mbklein | ejk++ [16:09:54] ecorrado | cold-- [16:09:55] naomi | 1 min down. [16:09:55] dsuchy | can i go in 10, 30-second periods? [16:09:56] JodiS_ | becky++ [16:09:56] atz | ohio++ [16:10:00] mjg_ | becky++ [16:10:00] gsf | lightning_talks_about_the_weather++ [16:10:03] ---| ---> jrochkind102 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a9355c40a1dade74] has joined #code4lib [16:10:05] * jtgorman is getting hungry [16:10:07] fak3r | macro++ [16:10:11] abarrera | becky++ [16:10:11] anarchivist | http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Black-Pudding-Ring/dp/B000LEH5BW/ref=pd_sim_dbs_gro_5 [16:10:12] bess | becky++ !!! [16:10:12] mbklein | becky++ [16:10:13] gsf | macro_express-- [16:10:15] anarchivist | becky++ [16:10:16] kgs | becky++ [16:10:17] shanlera61 | macro++ [16:10:22] shanlera61 | becky-- [16:10:23] mjg_ | becky is now +3 over edsu [16:10:26] BigD | mmm, black puddin! [16:10:29] harmless | kittens++ [16:10:30] jwn | dead kittens -- [16:10:33] anarchivist | BigD: twss [16:10:35] * jtgorman wondres what the heck is going on [16:10:39] mbklein | @karma becky [16:10:39] zoia | mbklein: Karma for "becky" has been increased 9 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 8. [16:10:48] abarrera | mmm kitty bacon [16:10:48] mjg_ | jtgorman: god killed a kitteh. [16:10:53] mbklein | shanlera61: spoilsport [16:10:53] gsf | | |_ ___ | | __ ___ / _| __ _ (_) | | [16:10:53] gsf | | __| / _ \ | |/ / / _ \ | |_ / _` | | | | | [16:10:53] gsf | | |_ | (_) | | < | __/ | _| | (_| | | | | | [16:10:54] atz | dave & busters tonight after dinner.... anybody in? [16:10:57] gsf | \__| \___/ |_|\_\ \___| |_| \__,_| |_| |_| [16:11:06] jwn | wat did they do with all the dead kittens? [16:11:07] mbklein | atz: D&B tonight FOR *and* AFTER dinner. [16:11:09] fak3r | toke? [16:11:09] lbjay | gsf++ [16:11:10] mjg_ | gsf++ [16:11:11] jbrinley | @quote add Every time you run Macro Express, God kills a kitten. [16:11:11] zoia | jbrinley: The operation succeeded. Quote #1750 added. [16:11:19] JodiS_ | who talked before elm? [16:11:21] * jtgorman tries not to think of the time he attempted to create a marco for some functionality in Voyager that had no counterpart... [16:11:23] * jtgorman shudders [16:11:25] anarchivist | gsf++ [16:11:29] ---| ---> jphipps [n=jphipps@wsip-70-164-25-115.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:11:29] jbrinley | JodiS_: Mike Taylor [16:11:43] jtgorman | things that had no keyboard equivalents, race issues when going to fast [16:11:45] ecorrado | the problem with shinny things is they attract badgers [16:11:47] atz | mbklein.... dunno about teh foods... but I'll be seeing you there at some point then. [16:11:48] fak3r | $demo [16:12:00] gsf | @rss unload [16:12:01] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-66294f497469eb18] has joined #code4lib [16:12:01] jtgorman | D&B on the east coast must be much better than the one that was here [16:12:02] ---| <<-- siznax [n=siznax@qblorp.archive.org] has quit ("Lost terminal") [16:12:02] zoia | gsf: Error: 'unload' is not a valid url. [16:12:03] lbjay | librarykitty++ [16:12:05] ejk | If D&B haz bacncheesbrgr, i iz there for dinnar [16:12:08] gsf | @unload RSS [16:12:09] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. [16:12:09] dlovins | database_cleanup++ [16:12:10] mbklein | @band add Mike Taylor and His Magick Bacon [16:12:11] zoia | mbklein: Band 'Mike Taylor and His Magick Bacon' added to list [16:12:16] jtgorman | which every single game was broken. The pool tables were ok [16:12:27] fak3r | broken_games-- [16:12:29] mbklein | atz++ [16:12:45] robcaSSon | becky++ [16:12:51] gsf | so wait, this is an autoit > macro express talk? [16:12:53] fak3r | windows demo on a mac-- [16:12:53] naomi | ILS-- [16:13:04] fak3r | MARC-- [16:13:04] mbklein | marc_talk++ [16:13:06] mjg_ | This kind of magick requires slaughtering a rooster under a full moon. [16:13:19] fak3r | mjg_: and killing a kitten [16:13:24] anarchivist | mjg_: abarrera did that already [16:13:25] akorphan | gsf: looks like. [16:13:27] fak3r | "This one goes to 11!" [16:13:33] JodiS_ | efficiency FTW! [16:13:36] naomi | that_kind_of_work-- [16:13:45] fak3r | naomi++ [16:13:46] abarrera | anarchivist: BigD demanded fried chicken at 2am [16:13:58] anarchivist | abarrera: big surprise [16:14:00] gsf | no problem with that, but programming_gui_macros-- [16:14:02] fak3r | set default_text_editor="vim" [16:14:12] fak3r | gsf++ [16:14:16] bess | omg, Becky is awesome! I've never seen or heard of her before. She's new right? or have I been under a rock again? [16:14:21] anarchivist | export EDITOR=ed [16:14:24] jbrinley | it's so simple I've been able to teach people who can't find the start button how to write autoit scripts [16:14:27] robcaSSon | bess: she's new....and OURS [16:14:30] gsf | bess: look for the #1 on her nametag [16:14:30] mjg_ | yo_bj++ [16:14:31] robcaSSon | so back off ;) [16:14:34] papo | bess: Who is Becky? [16:14:35] mbklein | live_kittens++ [16:14:37] anarchivist | yo_bj++ [16:14:38] naomi | tape_swaps------ [16:14:40] gsf | /wi beckay [16:14:48] wickr | taping++ [16:14:48] anarchivist | swap_meets++ [16:14:51] JodiS_ | papo: Becky Yoose, who talked about macros [16:14:51] mjg_ | I think he just said "back off, bitches" in danish. [16:14:52] * fak3r calls "same seats!" [16:14:54] akorphan | tape_swaps > tape_end_mid_talk. [16:15:00] fak3r | tapes? it's all solid state these days [16:15:01] naomi | spouse_swaps?? [16:15:10] anarchivist | kingston_jamaica++ [16:15:13] fak3r | this is your mac on drugs [16:15:16] rjw | every time you change a tape a kitten dies [16:15:22] atz | Backen der offenish, Bitschen! [16:15:25] LibraryThingT | wtd: I started a chat. Must discuss Athenaeum. [16:15:28] gsf | ah, zoia's log is so much nicer without all those damn broken feed calls [16:15:29] naomi | rjw++ [16:15:29] mjg_ | T O K E [16:15:31] jwn | she has a lot of tapes to review. [16:15:33] endupok | get a hard drive [16:15:36] MrDys | toke++ [16:15:36] fak3r | toke++ [16:15:36] papo | hey you guys are strange today [16:15:42] fak3r | today? [16:15:47] ---| ---> bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-36ca311fd25b404d] has joined #code4lib [16:15:49] papo | yes I mean especially today [16:15:49] fak3r | pause [16:15:51] jwn | roliking today. [16:15:53] papo | like "more than usual" [16:15:53] mbklein | D&B's menu: http://www.daveandbusters.com/eat/menu.aspx [16:15:56] fak3r | papo: rock [16:15:57] mjg_ | jwn++ [16:15:58] naomi | i_hate_this++ [16:15:58] ---| ---> eom [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3f40f714ec0276da] has joined #code4lib [16:16:06] JodiS_ | mbklein: how far is D&B? [16:16:06] emcrens | The cruft is not amused. [16:16:06] ---| ---> kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b9573e77aeffaee6] has joined #code4lib [16:16:10] fak3r | use a mini8 tape if you want slow [16:16:19] mbklein | JodiS_: It's in Providence Place Mall next door. [16:16:19] royt | people_who_don't_know_their_presentation_technology-- [16:16:24] ---| ---> scolford [i=46a4194b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79f01ab4ebf27999] has joined #code4lib [16:16:24] fak3r | JodiS_: 2 blocks down the hill [16:16:26] JodiS_ | mbklein: awesome [16:16:26] erikhatcher | T O K E [16:16:27] atz | JodiS_: it's the top floor of the mall... half a block [16:16:29] edsu | Ϟ [16:16:32] timmcgeary | What time for D&B? [16:16:33] * erikhatcher inhales [16:16:36] JodiS_ | royt: it's hard, actually... [16:16:36] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-72da9f0c71b0bcc1] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:16:38] * fak3r is new here [16:16:47] JodiS_ | what tim said: when for D&B? [16:16:47] mjg_ | royt: do not raise the ire of T O K E [16:16:49] mbklein | JodiS_: So somewhere between next door, half a block, down the hill, and 2 blocks away. [16:16:54] abarrera | timmcgeary: 420 [16:16:55] JodiS_ | :) [16:17:07] fak3r | RAM FTW? [16:17:12] MikeTaylor | Not to drag the subject back to my ow n humble talk or anything, but ... whoever it was that said the Connector Framework parser magic relies on well-formed HTML is dead wrong. I admit I don't understand myself how it does it, but it does it on pretty much ANY crappy HTML. Seriously. [16:17:14] BigD | vee expected dis [16:17:18] timmcgeary | aberrera: wow I better hurry [16:17:24] mbklein | JodiS_ / timmcgeary: I plan to play a game or two of Werewolf here and then head over. Probably around 7 or so. [16:17:27] JodiS_ | MikeTaylor: slow me, missed it. what kind of connector [16:17:38] JodiS_ | mbklein: will see if I can get my act together by then [16:17:43] MrDys | graphs++ [16:17:48] timmcgeary | mbklein: 7pm in the lobby then? [16:17:50] JodiS_ | graphs++ [16:17:51] rsinger | T O K E [16:17:51] bess | mbklein: how friendly is werewolf to uptight people who have never played such a thing before? [16:17:55] mbklein | timmcgeary: Something like that. [16:17:56] JodiS_ | bess: very [16:17:57] mbklein | :) [16:17:59] rsinger | T O K E [16:17:59] robcaSSon | measurements++ [16:18:05] naomi | mbklein: you must be the psychic [16:18:11] timmcgeary | mbklein: sounds good [16:18:12] MikeTaylor | JodiS, sorry it is too involved to explain on a very highly populated irc channel, and there are no slides I can point you at -- it was a live demo. [16:18:13] * bess wants to play werewolf but feels intimidated [16:18:15] jwn | which room werewolk? [16:18:16] mjg_ | rsinger++ # the dead horse is now a bloody pulp. [16:18:20] mjg_ | jwn: Handel [16:18:20] mbklein | bess: It's AWESOME. I was scared of it at first, but it's a real easy game to pick up, and plenty of skill to develop at your own pace. [16:18:23] fak3r | spoiler: I/O is the bottleneck (somwhere) [16:18:32] fak3r | spoiler: the dog dies [16:18:33] mbklein | jwn: Can't remember. It's on the conference wiki. Birkin knows too. [16:18:39] bess | mbklein: can I come? where and when? [16:18:44] MrDys | ooh. games are half off at D&B today [16:18:50] mjg_ | Werewolf = Handel, folks [16:18:53] JodiS_ | bess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game) [16:18:59] mjg_ | "T O K E ... out!" [16:18:59] anarchivist | performance++ [16:19:00] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [16:19:01] bess | what is D&B? [16:19:02] ecorrado | http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/2/25/128800703524542866.jpg [16:19:05] jwn | he sould wear a red shirt next time. [16:19:06] jtgorman | ahhh...werewolf the party game [16:19:06] bess | what kind of games? [16:19:06] BigD | MrDys: but you only get 1.5 lives [16:19:07] anarchivist | woowoo++ [16:19:07] MrDys | bess: Dave & Busters [16:19:11] mbklein | mjg_++ [16:19:15] akorphan | Dave + Busters = video game place for grownups [16:19:16] bess | what is Dave & Busters? [16:19:19] abarrera | bess: arcade, bar, restaurant [16:19:19] bess | oh cool! [16:19:21] jtgorman | quarter swallowers [16:19:22] bess | seriously? [16:19:22] anarchivist | columbia++ [16:19:24] bess | oh, yeah, I'm in [16:19:25] mbklein | firsttimers++ [16:19:26] MrDys | bess: srsly [16:19:27] lbjay | we have no pity [16:19:28] mjg_ | libe-- [16:19:30] timmcgeary | bess: yes, seriously [16:19:30] fak3r | sweater_vests++ [16:19:36] anarchivist | code4lube++ [16:19:39] erikhatcher | xslt-- [16:19:40] mbklein | bess: D&B's == Video Arcade for Grownups [16:19:40] timmcgeary | bess: chuck e. cheese for adults [16:19:41] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [16:19:44] mbklein | anarchivist-- [16:19:49] ecorrado | no++ [16:19:49] scolford | anarchivist-- [16:19:50] akorphan | shirt_tails++ [16:19:54] jtgorman | gah [16:19:55] abarrera | anarchivist++ [16:19:58] JodiS_ | bess: http://www.daveandbusters.com/ [16:19:58] fak3r | that scared me... [16:20:07] ejk | pausebutton++ [16:20:11] jtgorman | ok, folks....if you come up with a cool project. For the love of god...google it before you decide on the nmae [16:20:19] anarchivist | columbia++ [16:20:21] fak3r | DB's, not as dorky as it should be, but it'll be fun [16:20:28] anarchivist | jtgorman: hush now, we're concentrating [16:20:33] mbklein | jtgorman: What's the name of this project? [16:20:41] ---| <<-- jrochkind102 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a9355c40a1dade74] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:20:42] erikhatcher | anyone gone to the RSID museum? wondering if i should skip some sessions tomorrow to visit it? (i fly out at like 2pm) [16:20:42] fak3r | limited_tools-- [16:20:45] jwn | that's a lot of words for 5 minutes [16:20:46] ---| ---> mpark [i=8094d87e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-09ae8b30a54fe43e] has joined #code4lib [16:20:46] mjg_ | catapanoth++ [16:20:46] ---| ---> steambadger [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3dcb13a34f05308a] has joined #code4lib [16:20:47] jtgorman | I think I figured it out [16:20:50] naomi | "persistent, extensible nodes in sync" [16:20:52] anarchivist | catapanoth++ [16:20:57] rsinger | Ⓣ Ǭ Ǩ Ễ [16:20:58] jtgorman | so thie Connector Framework peoplbe have been talking about is CollabNet? [16:20:59] fak3r | I'd like to go to a RFID museum [16:21:05] jfereira | DBs, Iooks fun, I'll be there [16:21:08] erikhatcher | rsinger++ [16:21:08] naomi | erikhatcher: i wanna see museum also [16:21:08] mjg_ | rsinger: how much time did you spend on that? [16:21:15] LibraryThingT | wtd: Ping me. Athenaeum needs a call before 5 if we want to get a tour. [16:21:17] edsu | @ana schematron [16:21:18] zoia | edsu: Snatch more [16:21:20] scolford | fak3r: I was just thinking that. [16:21:21] gsf | 𝙏 ❂ ЌЁ [16:21:22] jtgorman | maybe... [16:21:23] jtgorman | no [16:21:24] rsinger | mjg_: way too much [16:21:26] mbklein | @herald get rsinger [16:21:27] zoia | mbklein: Error: I have no herald for rsinger. [16:21:32] fak3r | google ad on mibbit: "I got rid of my wrinkles" [16:21:33] mbklein | @herald add rsinger Ⓣ Ǭ Ǩ Ễ [16:21:34] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [16:21:35] ---| ---> jrochkind105 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d7e8063457dcc41f] has joined #code4lib [16:21:41] rsinger | mbklein++ [16:21:44] jtgorman | MikeTaylor: ummm, for those of us playing along at home, what is this thing you were talking about and are there any real urls to it [16:21:48] jrochkind105 | MrDys: Lightning talk on libguides stuff? [16:21:56] fak3r | permissions_change_denial++ [16:22:00] * bess is now really excited about both werewolf and video games. Time to let my geek flag fly. [16:22:04] ecorrado | @hosts2010 [16:22:05] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:22:06] zoia | ecorrado: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [270]; Madison, WI [214]; Columbus, OH [152]; Bloomington, IN [124] [16:22:07] JodiS_ | paper about Columbia's related EAD work: http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/77 [16:22:07] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [270]; Madison, WI [214]; Columbus, OH [152]; Bloomington, IN [124] [16:22:08] MrDys | jrochkind105: possibly tomorrow, it filled up really quickly today [16:22:10] harmless | jtgorman: It was a sneak peek at something that doesn't exist on the web yet. [16:22:17] atz | chmod based on requests? [16:22:17] erikhatcher | rsinger: note the time of your Ⓣ Ǭ Ǩ Ễ [16:22:19] * jtgorman smacks head against the desk [16:22:26] jtgorman | harmless++ [16:22:27] jbrinley | austin has 8 minutes to make up 16 points [16:22:30] rsinger | erikhatcher++ [16:22:31] mjg_ | gsf: are we really in a post-TAKO herald era? say it ain't so. [16:22:33] gsf | stupid web never works [16:22:34] rsinger | drugs++ [16:22:37] fak3r | URL/I (you know, like TCP/IP) [16:22:39] mbklein | bess: I can give you a crash course in WW before the game if you want, though there are a couple community geeks coming to facilitate. [16:22:48] jtgorman | but still, an idea might be to get a good name before it's on the web [16:22:51] BigD | i could take my 1 point away from NC - but i hear they have good bbq... [16:22:51] anarchivist | ⒯⒪ᴷᴈ [16:22:54] mbklein | jbrinley: They need Kobe shooting from the field [16:22:54] mjg_ | 8 minutes until the hosting vote closes. [16:22:55] gsf | mjg_: TAKO is so 2008 [16:22:55] fak3r | mbklein: may be fun to try [16:22:57] bess | mbklein: thank you, yes please! [16:23:03] mjg_ | gsf: TAKO4EVA [16:23:03] fak3r | anarchivist++ [16:23:04] timmcgeary | carolina_bbq++ [16:23:05] JodiS_ | mjg: say that to the room, plz [16:23:11] ejk | @hosts2010 [16:23:13] zoia | ejk: Asheville, NC [284]; Austin, TX [270]; Madison, WI [212]; Columbus, OH [152]; Bloomington, IN [121] [16:23:22] jrochkind105 | Speaking of things that sound like taco, is Taco from AquaBrowser here in providence? anyone seen him? [16:23:23] royt | that is totally one T O K E over the line [16:23:27] mbklein | Asheville pulling away [16:23:29] BigD | ecorrado: paying attn to irc? voting almost closed! [16:23:30] gsf | c'mon asheville, hold the margin [16:23:32] LibraryThingT | No, there's another Taco, isn't there? [16:23:32] ---| ---> mib_6nze6s0k [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-14c9b5f8a61d5f3c] has joined #code4lib [16:23:34] fak3r | royt: I'm going to count that [16:23:36] JodiS_ | @hosts2010 [16:23:38] zoia | JodiS_: Asheville, NC [284]; Austin, TX [270]; Madison, WI [211]; Columbus, OH [152]; Bloomington, IN [121] [16:23:40] mbklein | @herald get taco [16:23:40] zoia | mbklein: (herald get [] []) -- Returns the current herald message for (or the user is currently identified or recognized as). If is not given, defaults to the user giving the command. is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. [16:23:43] timmcgeary | @hosts2011 [16:23:44] zoia | timmcgeary: Porkey, Pennsylvanania [92]; Assawoman, Virginia [88]; Rough and Ready, California [55]; Beetown, Wisconsin [49]; Magazine, Arkansas [42]; Big Foot, Illinois [38]; Gaylordsville, Connecticut [3] [16:23:45] ---| User: *** mib_6nze6s0k is now known as mouwd [16:23:47] gsf | tie goes to karma [16:23:47] harmless | jtgorman: And it's a framework for building screen scrapers that run on a stripped down core of firefox (gecko engine) and this way tend to be more compatible since it's viewing the pages in a standard browser that people test with instead of, say, the http object in your scripting language of choice [16:23:50] ecorrado | yep, voting closes soon [16:23:50] gsf | asheville++ [16:23:50] fak3r | austin for the come behind win? [16:23:53] robcaSSon | asheville: congrats [16:23:55] fak3r | austin++ [16:24:01] gsf | austin-- [16:24:02] bjy | beetown wi is near where I grew up [16:24:03] mib_al7bayth | austin++ [16:24:04] ---| ---> erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a1dd1c8f2f4a6605] has joined #code4lib [16:24:06] akorphan | @karma asheville [16:24:07] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "asheville" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10. [16:24:08] * ecorrado still taking "donations" [16:24:10] BigD | ecorrado: maybe an announcemend? [16:24:13] ---| ---> asnagy [i=46a41935@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2e18e528345049c1] has joined #code4lib [16:24:14] akorphan | @karma austin [16:24:15] fak3r | don't make me call my dad and get Jim Baker to stop a recount... [16:24:15] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "austin" has been increased 5 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 4. [16:24:19] ecorrado | BigD: will do [16:24:22] fak3r | austin++ [16:24:23] timmcgeary | @karma timmcgeary [16:24:24] zoia | timmcgeary: Karma for "timmcgeary" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. [16:24:27] BigD | ecorrado: gracias! [16:24:31] ---| <<-- mouwd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-14c9b5f8a61d5f3c] has quit (Client Quit) [16:24:31] mjg_ | ooo, NORTH JERSEY [16:24:32] edsu | Ϟ [16:24:34] timmcgeary | asheville++ [16:24:37] fak3r | cute kid onscreen [16:24:40] fak3r | data_farm++ [16:24:40] mjg_ | Balkanization in the Garden State [16:24:46] scolford | austin++ [16:24:50] jtgorman | harmless: ahhhh [16:24:50] mbklein | mjg_: Good name for a band [16:24:51] ---| <--- frb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4bfd8eaa3beb0f1e] has left #code4lib () [16:24:53] fak3r | HADOOP ftw! [16:24:56] ---| ---> frb [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4bfd8eaa3beb0f1e] has joined #code4lib [16:24:59] jtgorman | harmless: seems...familiar somehow. [16:25:00] kgs | bacon_farms++ [16:25:02] mbklein | @ana Balkanization in the Garden State [16:25:03] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:25:04] zoia | mbklein: It and tantalizing boneshaker [16:25:06] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [279]; Madison, WI [214]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [121] [16:25:15] mjg_ | JodiS: eep, dunno if I can barge in in time. [16:25:17] timmcgeary | Austin cut lead in half [16:25:20] fak3r | Midwest Hadoop Harvesting Farm (MHHF) [16:25:20] royt | wow, Austin is closing [16:25:21] ejk | hanglingchads-- [16:25:21] BigD | i just hope we all still have jobs @c4l10 [16:25:22] * mbklein needs to learn how to use hadoop [16:25:23] jwn | not having at least one slide is pretty cheap. [16:25:25] gsf | edsu: awesome GREEK LETTER KOPPA there [16:25:27] harmless | jtgorman: ooo, from where? always good to have inspirations ... [16:25:29] fak3r | BigD-- [16:25:30] robcaSSon | @band add It and the Tantalizing Boneshakers [16:25:30] zoia | robcaSSon: Band 'It and the Tantalizing Boneshakers' added to list [16:25:31] * ecorrado changes his 300 votes to Binghamton.. Binghamton wins! [16:25:34] akorphan | KOPPA COBANA [16:25:40] jtgorman | harmless: can't figure out exactly, sorry to say [16:25:45] timmcgeary | binghamton-- [16:25:49] jtgorman | harmless: just sounds really familiar.. [16:25:50] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:25:52] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [289]; Austin, TX [276]; Madison, WI [211]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:25:56] LibraryThingT | gsf: Ooooh. Transcribe ionic inscriptions? [16:26:09] anarchivist | ₮⃙⓪₭€ [16:26:14] lbjay | @hosts2010 [16:26:16] zoia | lbjay: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:26:18] BigD | fak3r: don't want a job? [16:26:19] jtgorman | harmless: like something I read when looking for some web app unit testing stuff (like Selenium) that I came across something similar [16:26:28] erikhatcher | fak3r: hadoop++ [16:26:33] gsf | @rate toke tako [16:26:37] royt | four minutes [16:26:38] zoia | gsf: toke: 9.6; tako: 9.8. tako rocks! [16:26:39] fak3r | BigD: I want a job, just don't want to think of us all loosing jobs, thus the -- [16:26:42] harmless | jtgorman: yup! there are some similarities to selenium. [16:26:43] bjy | bjy demands a recount [16:26:48] fak3r | BigD++ [16:26:50] calvinm_ | @hosts2010 [16:26:51] zoia | calvinm_: Asheville, NC [283]; Austin, TX [280]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:26:52] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:26:53] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [283]; Austin, TX [280]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:26:54] fak3r | ^even'd out [16:26:56] royt | holy cow [16:27:02] ejk | ooh [16:27:03] timmcgeary | wow! [16:27:04] bess | what a nail biter! [16:27:05] mbklein | Let's break that down: Bing (cherries) / Ham (uh, ham) / Ton (2,000 lbs.)...So 2,000 pounds of cherries and ham? What kind of name is that for a city? [16:27:05] edsu | calvinm_: i guess you want to go to austin :) [16:27:06] gsf | recount [16:27:07] fak3r | austin is gonna pull it out... [16:27:08] rsinger | WHOA [16:27:08] harmless | jtgorman: but it's rather differently focused. there are also some firefox extensions for macro recording like imacros and dejaclick [16:27:10] anarchivist | ℻ [16:27:12] codemonkey | WOW....... [16:27:19] timmcgeary | NC++ [16:27:21] codemonkey | austin++ [16:27:24] anarchivist | ℥ [16:27:26] calvinm_ | edsu: can't decide [16:27:27] gsf | asheville++ [16:27:30] edsu | are there 3 minutes to closing of polls? [16:27:32] fak3r | maybe we shouldn't have released the results, it's changing the election [16:27:32] timmcgeary | asheville++ [16:27:32] ejk | does the vote module auto lock at 4:30? [16:27:34] anarchivist | asheville++ [16:27:35] kgs | nice_places_to_visit++ [16:27:36] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:27:37] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [283]; Austin, TX [280]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:27:37] harmless | what's in asheville? [16:27:40] atz | chaos! [16:27:41] wickr | ejk: yes [16:27:44] gsf | fak3r: it always does [16:27:44] mbs | warm, tacos, tequila--whats not to like? [16:27:44] jrochkind105 | asheville and austin I think will both work out fine. [16:27:44] shoe | harmless: what search terms will turn this up when it's available? [16:27:46] mbklein | exit_polling-- [16:27:47] rsinger | ejk: yes [16:27:47] fak3r | harmless: unknown [16:27:49] erikhatcher | i was born in Asheville [16:27:50] akorphan | harmless: The Chocolate Fetish [16:27:52] naomi | fak3r: duh - televising presidential election ... [16:27:53] bess | harmless: great music, great food, beautiful mountains [16:27:54] harmless | do they have good microbrews there/ [16:27:57] codemonkey | harmless: expensive town [16:27:58] mib_al7bayth | voting is over now? [16:28:02] ecorrado | do they have bacon? [16:28:02] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:28:04] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [281]; Austin, TX [280]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:28:04] harmless | jtgorman: indexdata.dk [16:28:05] fak3r | naomi: exactly my point! [16:28:05] royt | not yet [16:28:10] royt | ack! [16:28:12] kgs | ooh! [16:28:12] robcaSSon | oh my [16:28:13] anarchivist | ⏅ [16:28:14] lbjay | 1 vote! [16:28:14] mbklein | jrochkind105: More specifically, asheville *or* austin will *either* work out fine. [16:28:16] edsu | wtf, this is like an ebay auction [16:28:19] ejk | Crazy [16:28:20] gsf | did you see that? ERIK HATCHER WAS BORN IN ASHEVILLE! [16:28:24] mib_al7bayth | i wanted to vote for lizard people! [16:28:25] akorphan | SNIPE SNIPE SNIPE [16:28:29] naomi | gsf++ [16:28:30] fak3r | quick, someone bid 100.01! snipe it! [16:28:31] timmcgeary | erikhatcher homestead tours++ [16:28:32] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:28:34] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:28:40] anarchivist | the sound of screaming neckferret [16:28:43] rsinger | WTF [16:28:44] naomi | can't vote - bandwidth [16:28:47] ejk | Dang [16:28:48] anarchivist | WOO ASHEVILLE [16:28:50] harmless | jtgorman: we're calling it 'conector framework' [16:28:51] timmcgeary | crazy results [16:28:51] JodiS_ | voting is closed on the website :( [16:28:51] mbs | we should go there--we need to help keep austin weird [16:28:52] edsu | mjg_++ [16:28:53] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- # booo u sucks [16:28:53] steambadger | Diebold! [16:28:55] naomi | (not me - i already voted) [16:28:55] fak3r | he needs a tinyurl.com for that [16:28:56] akorphan | Only one of those votes was for McCain! [16:28:57] gsf | only vote if you're voting for asheville [16:28:59] ejk | austin lost a bunc [16:29:01] erikhatcher | i moved away from Asheville real young, so it's foreign to me... but it's pretty there and i hear it's a cool town [16:29:02] JodiS_ | rsinger: is server time 2 mi ahead? [16:29:04] timmcgeary | i had a hanging chad [16:29:05] anarchivist | ⏣ [16:29:07] dbs | shit! My clock says 16:28 [16:29:07] jrochkind105 | sweet, google translate does bahasa indonesia. Now I can figure out if this blog comment is link spam. [16:29:10] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:29:11] robcaSSon | chickmarkley++ # for his patience and sense of humor [16:29:11] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:29:11] lbjay | iSore [16:29:14] fak3r | he asked for it [16:29:16] decasm_nomad | only vote if you're voting for drexel [16:29:16] timmcgeary | 16:29 on IRC time [16:29:18] rsinger | why did it close? [16:29:21] ecorrado | diebols_crash-- [16:29:22] MrDys | storytime! [16:29:22] mbklein | Holy crap. [16:29:23] fak3r | how did austin loose votes? [16:29:24] anarchivist | ␆␆ [16:29:27] naomi | timmcgeary: chad++ [16:29:31] dbs | I was just signing in to vote! [16:29:32] fak3r | someone hit ctrl-z [16:29:34] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:29:34] wickr | fak3r: people changing their vote [16:29:35] jtgorman | harmless: might want to reconsider.... [16:29:35] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:29:36] robcaSSon | fak3r: you can change votes [16:29:36] bess | fak3r: people can change their votes [16:29:42] gsf | dbs: you snooze you lose [16:29:42] jrochkind105 | The blog is a real blog. I have no idea why someone with a blog about indonesian politics is posting "thanks for the informative post!" to my blog comments. [16:29:42] jfereira | @rate loose lose [16:29:43] JodiS_ | dbs: me too [16:29:45] anarchivist | ☭ [16:29:46] zoia | jfereira: loose: 9.8; lose: 9.2. loose rocks! [16:29:46] fak3r | wickr: ah -ok [16:29:46] rsinger | closed [16:29:47] edsu | gsf++ [16:29:50] * fak3r still new here [16:29:50] jtgorman | harmless: or give it some other part of the name that might make it more googable... [16:29:53] BigD | is this his "burn technology" story? [16:29:54] timmcgeary | voting irregularities [16:29:56] royt | @hosts2010 [16:29:57] zoia | royt: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:29:58] jtgorman | @google "Connector Framework" [16:29:59] timmcgeary | the polls closed early [16:30:00] zoia | jtgorman: Search took 0.18 seconds: MOM Connector Framework (MCF): ; Google Enterprise: Google Search Appliance: ; How the vision connector framework works: ; freshmeat.net: Project details for (2 more messages) [16:30:03] lbjay | some arm twisting in the senate cloak room going on? [16:30:03] anarchivist | ⚗ #paraphernalia++ [16:30:04] royt | Asheville gets it! [16:30:05] fak3r | slideshow ftw? [16:30:08] dbs | gsf: oh so true. but I had until 16:30 PM dammit! [16:30:10] timmcgeary | i was harrassed [16:30:10] ecorrado | asheville win! I'll anounce after this talk [16:30:14] fak3r | did he create this with keynote? [16:30:17] timmcgeary | @hosts2010 [16:30:18] atz | looks like it's closed.... who knows what time *that* system thinks it is [16:30:18] zoia | timmcgeary: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:30:19] lbjay | Asheville++ w00t [16:30:20] gsf | ROYT CALLED IT [16:30:22] dbs | wanted to snipe [16:30:24] fak3r | font-- [16:30:28] royt | it's PDF [16:30:28] akorphan | Is it me or is keynote horrible? [16:30:31] jtgorman | its' 4:30 eastern by my clock [16:30:34] abarrera | does that say rectum? [16:30:34] BigD | that was exciting! [16:30:34] atz | comic_sans-- [16:30:35] naomi | font++ [16:30:35] bess | asheville++ [16:30:37] mjg_ | wow, that was pretty exciting. [16:30:39] fak3r | akorphan: it's not you, it's the presentation [16:30:41] edsu | akorphan: computers-- [16:30:42] dbs | jtgorman: two minutes ago it wasn't :) [16:30:43] ejk | comicsans-- [16:30:45] erikhatcher | rubyconf++ [16:30:49] naomi | abarerra-- [16:30:50] timmcgeary | that was *really* exciting [16:30:52] fak3r | hours or ours? [16:30:53] jtgorman | dbs: no, no. That's true [16:30:53] timmcgeary | I thought there would be a tie [16:30:56] anarchivist | ⦰⦱⦽⦾ [16:30:57] lbjay | comicsans? really? [16:31:00] mbklein | Anyone who wants to see a pretty amazing rethinking of presentation software should check out prezi.com. Amazing. [16:31:00] erikhatcher | stuart_halloway++ [16:31:00] ecorrado | tie+- [16:31:04] gsf | crazy colors AND comic sans [16:31:07] fak3r | lbjay: not recommended [16:31:09] iand | comic_sans++ [16:31:11] scolford | prezi++ [16:31:13] anarchivist | ⫸⫷⬖⬗ [16:31:20] royt | mbklein: i requested a login but haven't gotten it yet [16:31:21] fak3r | comic_sans for teh resumz [16:31:22] mbklein | lbjay: *antialiased* Comic Sans with *drop shadows*, Mister. [16:31:23] ---| <<-- shanlera61 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dad9bf67fadcbf84] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:31:26] mjg_ | JodiS++ # guess I got up there too late, but thanks. good idea. [16:31:34] anarchivist | ㈮ [16:31:37] ejk | the background grid makes me dizzy [16:31:39] anarchivist | # PARENTHESIZED IDEOGRAPH METAL [16:31:40] akorphan | mbklein: on GREEN CHECK background [16:31:41] JodiS_ | mjg_: thanks for trying :) [16:31:44] harmless | :( [16:31:47] fak3r | available for bad language [16:31:54] abarrera | mjg_: your bullet proof vest slowed you down [16:31:57] harmless | it's a manual registration [16:31:59] fak3r | I want that background... [16:31:59] mjg_ | abarrera++ [16:32:06] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit () [16:32:06] harmless | how can we vote in two minutes under these conditions ;) [16:32:06] MikeTaylor | There is NEVER an excuse for Comic Sans [16:32:11] atz | heckle, jester and pester..... quality [16:32:20] fak3r | mjg_++ # for vest [16:32:23] atz | great idea [16:32:24] royt | yeah, shut up so we can vote [16:32:24] erikhatcher | fak3r: MrDys has a background for you [16:32:33] mbklein | That's effed up. [16:32:36] edsu | that is twisted [16:32:38] mjg_ | mjg_-- # true true [16:32:40] MrDys | fak3r: http://www.dysinterested.com/ [16:32:41] mjg_ | heckle++ [16:32:52] lbjay | heckle sounds like pain [16:32:56] timmcgeary | @hosts2011 [16:32:57] zoia | timmcgeary: Big Sandy, Wyoming [67]; It, Mississippi [67]; Hicksville, Ohio [22]; Disco, Tennessee [2] [16:32:58] gsf | ΓΘλΞ [16:33:06] liza31337 | tests > documentation ++ [16:33:08] mjg_ | heckle sounds great. unit_testing++ [16:33:17] anarchivist | ԊԎԹԻ [16:33:18] naomi | Podunk, NY [-8] [16:33:25] gsf | @herald add ΓΘλΞ [16:33:25] anarchivist | @hosts2011 [16:33:26] zoia | gsf: Error: I can't find ΓΘλΞ in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work. [16:33:27] zoia | anarchivist: Normal, Illinois [96]; Muck City, Alabama [61]; Lollipop, Texas [58]; Love Ladies, New Jersey [58]; Peculiar, Missouri [56]; Magazine, Arkansas [3] [16:33:27] fak3r | MrDys: looks nice [16:33:29] anarchivist | @hosts2010 [16:33:30] zoia | anarchivist: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:33:32] jfereira | I live near Podunk, NY [16:33:32] naomi | mjg++ [16:33:33] gsf | @herald add gsf ΓΘλΞ [16:33:33] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. [16:33:37] akorphan | hester, tester, jester, pester and lester [16:33:42] steambadger | Heckle will unmask us all as the frauds that we are. Aaaiii! [16:33:43] atz | tests are more significant than docs. wise. [16:33:44] naomi | jfereira: i know. I used to live there too. [16:33:46] * lbjay nods vigouously [16:33:54] jrochkind105 | NOTE: Does not apply to certain library developers that refuse to take your patches. [16:33:59] fak3r | who/boo [16:34:03] akorphan | asheville ftw [16:34:06] harmless | :( [16:34:08] erikhatcher | asheville++ [16:34:08] fak3r | apparently [16:34:12] timmcgeary | asheville++ [16:34:17] fak3r | what if I go to austin by accident? [16:34:25] * jtgorman is said that Ohio lost agian this year [16:34:26] fak3r | I guess there's still irc... [16:34:26] robcaSSon | asheville++ [16:34:27] naomi | fak3r: enjoy the bbq [16:34:28] ---| <<-- kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-66294f497469eb18] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:34:29] mjg_ | so, uh, when does robcaSSon start throatpunching? [16:34:31] akorphan | ibahn-- [16:34:31] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ce6bfc20def157e4] has joined #code4lib [16:34:31] royt | fak3r: have a fun conference with yourself [16:34:31] decasm_nomad | counterCode4Lib in austin, 2010 [16:34:31] fak3r | contrast fail [16:34:36] gsf | the masses of votebots have spoken [16:34:37] ejk | the conference of southern agression [16:34:38] jfereira | fak3r: Internet access will probably be better [16:34:41] jtgorman | particularly with the budget crunches [16:34:42] mjg_ | chickmarkley++ [16:34:42] anarchivist | ℬÅℾℬ℮ℚ [16:34:43] lbjay | JodiS_: congratulations, you have won code4lib! [16:34:45] fak3r | jfereira: ya [16:34:48] edsu | gsf++ [16:34:52] mbklein | fak3r: There'll be a dimensional shuttle portal there to bring you to ashville. no worries. [16:34:55] mjg_ | ksclarke++ JodiS++ [16:34:55] fak3r | browser_fail [16:34:57] JodiS_ | lbjay: crap, we're putting on a conference next year! [16:34:59] akorphan | a winner are you! [16:35:04] ---| ---> shanlera61 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f6dc915bf0eebd07] has joined #code4lib [16:35:05] mjg_ | Congratulations, you now have a lot of responsibility! [16:35:05] ejk | @karma ibahn [16:35:06] codemonkey | counterCode4Lib++ lol.... :) [16:35:06] zoia | ejk: Karma for "ibahn" has been increased 1 time and decreased 19 times for a total karma of -18. [16:35:11] fak3r | akorphan: "a winner is you" [16:35:13] JodiS_ | mjg_: exactly [16:35:15] MrDys | hottie trust [16:35:17] MikeTaylor | ibahn-- [16:35:19] MikeTaylor | ibahn-- [16:35:19] jrochkind105 | hottie trust. [16:35:21] mjg_ | MrDys++ [16:35:21] gsf | internet access better be better in asheville or i'm changing my votes [16:35:22] * bess is happy b/c Asheville is in driving distance, so I can go even though we won't have any travel funding next year. [16:35:24] kgs | haughty trust? [16:35:25] rsinger | hathi or nathi [16:35:28] jwn | ibahn-- [16:35:28] fak3r | ashvillie: for great jsstice [16:35:29] naomi | ibahn-- [16:35:30] mbklein | MrDys++ [16:35:31] edsu | MrDys: glad i wasn't the only one to hear that [16:35:32] akorphan | fak3r: thanks. [16:35:34] mbklein | rsinger++ [16:35:35] abarrera | naughty trust [16:35:36] fak3r | ibahn-- [16:35:36] scotchko | hottie trust [16:35:37] scolford | rsinger++ [16:35:41] mjg_ | asheville++# beautiful [16:35:49] fak3r | akorphan: some wrestling game for snes, I think [16:35:53] akorphan | chocolate_fetish++ [16:35:54] kgs | asheville is gorgeous and has great food [16:35:57] ejk | @rate ibahn iii [16:35:57] fak3r | mjg_: sounds good [16:35:58] akorphan | woolworth_gallery++ [16:35:59] mjg_ | and local beer [16:36:00] timmcgeary | trusting_hotties++ [16:36:00] zoia | ejk: ibahn: ?; iii: 8.3. iii rocks! [16:36:01] mbklein | asheville++ # not 25 degrees in February [16:36:04] gsf | calm down everybody. it means elephant. [16:36:06] fak3r | screen_fail [16:36:07] anarchivist | @herald add anarchivist ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [16:36:07] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. [16:36:08] BigD | where the hell is asscrack NC? [16:36:14] mjg_ | hot_elephants++ [16:36:23] bess | BigD: right next to Lizard Lick [16:36:26] edsu | @hosts2011 [16:36:26] zoia | edsu: Big Sandy, Wyoming [100]; Spread Eagle, Wisconsin [96]; Dismal, Tennessee [55]; River Styx, Ohio [43]; Dry Fork, Wyoming [18] [16:36:27] fak3r | I trust hathi, don't you? [16:36:30] mbklein | Welcome to the Shared Digital Future [16:36:35] ejk | 1400x1050++ [16:36:38] MrDys | who's going to be the first to abuse roy's growl [16:36:39] rsinger | wait, tom is at umich now? [16:36:39] harmless | microbrew++ [16:36:45] fak3r | small_fonts-- [16:36:48] mjg_ | what's this dude's name again? [16:36:50] BigD | i have a sister in NC, hence the Austin votes... [16:36:50] naomi | my ad in mibbit: "Asheville Tummy Tuck? Get a tummy tuck in Asheville OR get a Tummy tuck without surgery." [16:36:53] kgs | breweries http://www.exploreasheville.com/where-to-eat/restaurants-by-cuisine-type/brewpubs--microbreweries/bold-beer/index.aspx [16:36:53] gsf | pothead trust [16:36:55] jrochkind105 | Huh, they already do have an api. Umlaut uses it. I guess it's a Merlin api technically but it does the job. [16:36:57] anarchivist | gsf++ [16:36:57] atz | "You will shape HathiTrust." [16:36:57] JodiS_ | Tom Burton-West [16:37:11] mjg_ | JodiS++ [16:37:12] jrochkind105 | Did I mention that Umlaut can put HathiTrust links and search-in-the-book boxes on your link resolver and opac? [16:37:12] akorphan | the Biltmore [16:37:13] fak3r | there's an elephant in the library. [16:37:21] JodiS_ | fak3r++ [16:37:27] mjg_ | jrochkind105: do an Umlaut lightning talk already. [16:37:28] fak3r | the Bil more [16:37:35] anarchivist | № [16:37:37] bess | jrochkind105: I really want to start using Umlaut. how do I get started? [16:37:39] steambadger | Mibbit says: "Holly gets naked for animals." [16:37:40] mbklein | MrDys: Roy's Growl is not to be trifled with. [16:37:44] jrochkind105 | mjg_ Already signed up. [16:37:47] akorphan | fak3r: yeah, an off-season ticket to the biltmore is like $25 [16:37:49] mjg_ | jrochkind++ [16:37:49] BigD | fak3r: abarrera is just big boned! [16:37:50] anarchivist | mibbit++ [16:37:51] gsf | mibbit-- [16:37:52] ---| ---> cschx [n=cschx@wsip-70-164-25-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:37:56] fak3r | "we're investigating using smaller fonts, in the comic sans style" [16:38:05] gsf | fak3r++ [16:38:07] eom | I've had a mibbit ad about mesothelioma. Is there something the Asheville committee didn't tell us? [16:38:07] jrochkind105 | bess: The docs are decent, cause you know how much I love docs. And I'm HAPPY to help with any of it. [16:38:08] bess | fak3r++ [16:38:11] mjg_ | abarrera's got dinosaur bones. [16:38:11] abarrera | BigD: thanks, i try [16:38:13] abarrera | ass [16:38:14] timmcgeary | aren't we staying at the biltmore? [16:38:16] naomi | bess: option+u [16:38:22] jrochkind105 | bess: But Scot at NYU pretty much got it all done just from the docs without even talking to me. [16:38:26] fak3r | mibbit ad: Ashevillie Jobs! [16:38:26] timmcgeary | bless you [16:38:28] mjg_ | Antoniosaurus Rex [16:38:29] dlovins | fak3r++ [16:38:31] bess | jrochkind105: linking to HathiTrust stuff would be a win for us [16:38:33] MikeTaylor | Who's got dinosaur bones? How? Where? How can I get my hands on them? [16:38:36] jbrinley | naomi++ [16:38:38] BigD | mjg_: dorkasauraus [16:38:40] rsinger | it's freezing in here [16:38:42] robcaSSon | talk to erikhatcher [16:38:43] abarrera | mjgiarlo++ [16:38:44] mjg_ | found extinct at the bottom of a bag of doritos [16:38:48] fak3r | can't get it into memory? I thought that "elephants never forget" <- reference? [16:38:50] robcaSSon | contract with lucid [16:38:52] jrochkind105 | bess: Right now it only uses HathiTrust if it does NOT get a hit in GBS, but that's easily configurable. [16:39:05] jrochkind105 | bess: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Umlaut [16:39:11] mjg_ | at the LaBrea Donut Pits [16:39:15] timmcgeary | 52F in Asheville today [16:39:15] fak3r | these cats need to get on the lucid mailing list [16:39:24] kgs | @wunder pvd [16:39:25] fak3r | 52F and mostly fine [16:39:25] ---| <<-- erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a1dd1c8f2f4a6605] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:39:27] zoia | kgs: The current temperature in Providence, Rhode Island is 37.4°F (3:51 PM EST on February 25, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.40 in 1030 hPa (Falling). [16:39:29] JodiS_ | font_up++ [16:39:30] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:39:35] mjg_ | font_up4eva++ [16:39:36] JodiS_ | memory++ [16:39:36] gsf | @ana hathitrust [16:39:37] zoia | gsf: Ruttish hat [16:39:39] naomi | how can there be, like 8 "world's largest" libraries? [16:39:46] anarchivist | shard++ [16:39:46] gsf | @ana ruttish hat [16:39:47] zoia | gsf: Hit as truth [16:39:47] fak3r | unreadable_presentation++ [16:39:50] kgs | @ana elephant in library [16:39:51] zoia | kgs: Labyrinthian leper [16:39:52] fak3r | sharding++ [16:39:52] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [16:39:52] anarchivist | @ana hit as truth [16:39:53] zoia | anarchivist: Ruttish hat [16:40:03] JodiS_ | @wunder asheville, nc [16:40:04] MrDys | @hussein hathitrust [16:40:05] akorphan | naomi: "world's 8 largest libraries"? [16:40:05] zoia | JodiS_: The current temperature in Sunset Mountain, Asheville, North Carolina is 49.1°F (4:40 PM EST on February 25, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 48.2°F. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026.6 hPa (Falling). [16:40:06] fak3r | nutch_for_queries++ [16:40:07] zoia | MrDys: Hurt his enthusiast [16:40:07] MikeTaylor | Why is fak3r in favour of unreadable presentations? [16:40:08] JodiS_ | @wunder providence, ri [16:40:10] zoia | JodiS_: The current temperature in Cherry Hill, Johnston, Rhode Island is 37.8°F (4:40 PM EST on February 25, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Falling). [16:40:12] MrDys | zoia++ [16:40:17] mbklein | @herald get rsinger [16:40:18] zoia | mbklein: Ⓣ Ǭ Ǩ Ễ [16:40:22] bess | jrochkind105: I'm pretty intimidated by link resolver stuff because that's never been my job, and the guy at my library whose job it is is old and scary and crotchety. [16:40:25] fak3r | MikeTaylor: the fonts [16:40:27] erikhatcher | robcaSSon++ [16:40:30] fak3r | I think he's talking about me [16:40:33] fak3r | boom [16:40:37] mbklein | Mibbit can display "Ⓣ Ǭ Ǩ Ễ" but it can't display a degree symbol? [16:40:37] mjg_ | I am in favor of MrDys's seizure-inducing slides. [16:40:42] mjg_ | HEY NOW [16:40:45] fak3r | mood? sounds personal [16:40:45] anarchivist | @herald get anarchivist [16:40:46] zoia | anarchivist: ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [16:40:47] erikhatcher | yeah, i talked to Tom yesterday and suggested the nutch approach to common terms [16:40:50] timmcgeary | better that than the thong [16:40:51] edsu | royt++ [16:40:51] abarrera | let me guess with a roythong underneath [16:40:51] rsinger | @herald add royt Enter, the Hacking Hathi [16:40:52] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. [16:40:55] jrochkind105 | bess: I'll give your people commit privs no problem on Umlaut. If you guys have SFX and it's API features are set up, you can set up Umlaut as a demo without talking to the crotchety guy. [16:40:57] robcaSSon | MrDys'_slides++ [16:40:57] LibraryThingT | It's so great that people make their data free and available. [16:41:01] mjg_ | royt's mustache has been to the moon and back WITHOUT A SPACESUIT [16:41:11] MrDys | I like roy's segue style..."No. I'm going now." [16:41:15] mbklein | mjg_: He used those slides specifically to disorient me in anticipation of the whupping I was going to give him at D&B's tonight. [16:41:16] bess | jrochkind105: not_talking_to_crotchety_guy++ [16:41:20] anarchivist | @dunno search puppies [16:41:21] zoia | anarchivist: 1 found: #150: "why don't you ask royt to read to you about..." [16:41:21] fak3r | erikhatcher: but nutch + hadoop is more for harvesting, didn't think real time would be its strongpoint...yes? [16:41:21] jwn | @wunder hnl [16:41:23] zoia | jwn: The current temperature in Honolulu, Hawaii is 75.2°F (10:53 AM HST on February 25, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). [16:41:25] LibraryThingT | ANd are there any terms with it. [16:41:25] anarchivist | @dunno get 150 [16:41:26] zoia | anarchivist: Dunno #150: "why don't you ask royt to read to you about puppies instead? http://icanhaz.com/puppies" (added by anarchivist at 09:21 PM, August 15, 2008) [16:41:29] rsinger | MrDys: You, get the fuck off my stage [16:41:32] fak3r | @wunder stl [16:41:33] BigD | i'm ROYT DAMMIT! [16:41:36] zoia | fak3r: The current temperature in St. Louis, Missouri is 68.0°F (2:51 PM CST on February 25, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). [16:41:37] erikhatcher | fak3r: the nutch *analyzer*, not the crawler [16:41:38] gsf | miniscule xml files [16:41:45] fak3r | 68F in STL? [16:41:45] rsinger | DO YOU REALIZE WHO I AM?! [16:41:51] BigD | ROYTrage [16:41:53] MrDys | I HAVE A MOUSTACHE [16:41:56] fak3r | rsinger: rsinger, right? [16:41:59] anarchivist | MrDys++ [16:41:59] erikhatcher | nutch has some custom lucene analysis techniques to address the "the whatever" phrase query issue [16:42:01] MikeTaylor | Standard Template Library? [16:42:06] fak3r | boosted_font++ [16:42:07] ecorrado | font_boost++ [16:42:11] JodiS_ | @wunder st.louis, mo [16:42:14] zoia | JodiS_: The current temperature in Shaw/Tower Grove, St. Louis, Missouri is 70.0°F (3:40 PM CST on February 25, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Falling). [16:42:16] MikeTaylor | We need MORE font_boost. [16:42:18] mbklein | rsinger: the Christian Bale of code4lib [16:42:19] mjg_ | royt's mustache cuts off his face to spite his face. [16:42:22] fak3r | erikhatcher: wow, lucene/solr moves fast [16:42:25] JodiS_ | WTF, StL, MO! [16:42:26] anarchivist | mbklein++ [16:42:27] rsinger | MY MOUSTACHE AND THIS BOTTLE OF GLENFIDDITCH ARE GONNA KICK YOUR ASS [16:42:34] fak3r | vote_stl++ [16:42:41] akorphan | Tony Stark built this IN A CAVE! [16:42:44] akorphan | WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS! [16:42:45] atz | wtf indeed [16:42:47] JodiS_ | dchud: could you font-up the presentation computer firefox? [16:42:48] kgs | @mccainize [wunder 32301] [16:42:50] zoia | kgs: My friends, The current temperature in Cornerstone Learning Community, Tallahassee, Florida is 68.5°F (4:33 PM EST on February 25, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady). [16:42:52] fak3r | JodiS_: I'm from STL, had to check the weather, it beats ashville [16:42:55] timmcgeary | asheville has a brews cruise [16:42:56] anarchivist | @quote random [16:42:56] mbklein | Whereas I'm more like that "Kittens! Inspired by Kittens!" kid. [16:42:56] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #640: " is it easier to write science fiction or treason?" (added by ksclarke at 12:09 AM, January 18, 2007) [16:43:01] timmcgeary | http://www.exploreasheville.com/what-to-do/activity-details/index.aspx?guid=f27c9576-f188-4720-aa51-e8c828b52ccb [16:43:02] erikhatcher | if you're going to publish your data as XML, at least spell out things like "undetermined" [16:43:07] JodiS_ | fak3r: yeah, just surprised [16:43:15] mjg_ | royt's mustache has access to EVERY government document. [16:43:20] scolford | mbklein++ [16:43:23] gsf | royt: ur search interface is weiwd [16:43:25] BigD | und could mean other things... [16:43:30] scolford | kittens_inspired_by_kittens++ [16:43:30] anarchivist | royt's mustache has its own harvester [16:43:32] bess | mbklein++ [16:43:32] fak3r | pag-in-ation-- [16:43:38] erikhatcher | fak3r: that nutch analysis tip (ngramming, now called "shingling") has been there for years [16:43:42] fak3r | mustache_comments++ [16:43:43] ecorrado | @hosts2009 [16:43:45] zoia | ecorrado: Brown University/Providence, Rhode Island [269]; Columbus, OH [225]; Southeast Florida [176]; Bahía Blanca, Argentina [105] [16:43:46] JodiS_ | Can anybody read that URL? [16:43:49] mjg_ | OAI Protocol for Mustache Harvesting [16:43:53] gsf | behind royt's mustache is another mustache [16:43:55] anarchivist | @hosts2011 [16:43:56] zoia | anarchivist: Umpire, Arkansas [97]; Buddha, Indiana [96]; Big Foot, Illinois [83]; Chestnut, Illinois [83]; Eek, Alaska [80]; Spread Eagle, Wisconsin [37]; Chicken, Alaska [29]; Roachtown, Illinois [28] [16:44:00] JodiS_ | @hosts2010 [16:44:01] zoia | JodiS_: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [16:44:02] jwn | government intellectual property? [16:44:04] fak3r | erikhatcher: ah, I've played mostly w/hadoop - cool [16:44:05] mjg_ | mustaches all the way down [16:44:06] abarrera | http://roytennant.com/proto/hathi/ [16:44:07] BigD | mjg_: can you tell wiggly to settle down? [16:44:09] robcaSSon | mjg_++ # asshole...lolz [16:44:12] anarchivist | royt's mustache writes its own metadata [16:44:12] kgs | @hosts 2009 [16:44:14] JodiS_ | abarrera++ [16:44:14] zoia | kgs: a chinferret? see http://www.tricyclebicyclecycle.org/dys/mg.jpg [16:44:14] atz | bonus point for using "mustachioed" [16:44:15] * jtgorman wonders what the universe of possibilities is on crosswords [16:44:16] scolford | http://roytennant.com/proto/hathi/index.cgi [16:44:19] jrochkind105 | A hacking hottie? WHERE? [16:44:20] mjg_ | INFINITE MUSTACHE REGRESS [16:44:23] kgs | @hosts2009 [16:44:24] zoia | kgs: Brown University/Providence, Rhode Island [269]; Columbus, OH [225]; Southeast Florida [176]; Bahía Blanca, Argentina [105] [16:44:30] fak3r | I'll take a hot toddie (drink) if you're getting up [16:44:31] anarchivist | jrochkind105: right here, big boy [16:44:36] naomi | jochkind105: look around [16:44:38] akorphan | droste effect moustache FTW [16:44:39] JodiS_ | scolford: brought the chumby down. find me at happy hour :) [16:44:40] bess | jrochkind105: right here! [16:44:41] fak3r | dchud++ [16:44:44] mbklein | scolford: The ISP has come up with some BS reason why the DNS changes I asked for can't be made the way I want them. [16:44:47] jrochkind105 | oh yeah, there's 200 of them in the room with me. [16:44:47] jfereira | hacking hottie to table 8 [16:44:49] lbjay | @bartender fak3r [16:44:51] mjg_ | wiggly is excited by royt's mustache [16:44:52] * zoia fills a pint glass with J.W. Dundee's Original Honey Brown, and sends it sliding down the bar to fak3r (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/302/832/) [16:44:53] erikhatcher | JodiS_: chumby? i wanna see! [16:44:54] JodiS_ | code4lib++ [16:44:56] * ranti thinks royt's mustache is a metamustache [16:44:57] scolford | jodiS_: oooo! [16:44:59] fak3r | mbklein: opendns ftw? [16:45:01] mbklein | jrochkind105: You go dawg. [16:45:03] gsf | deep down, we're all hacking hotties [16:45:04] kgs | goodbye, Columbus (had to say it) [16:45:06] fak3r | code4lib++ [16:45:06] jfereira | @bartender [16:45:09] * zoia fills a pint glass with Ommegang Witte, and sends it sliding down the bar to jfereira (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/42/16506/) [16:45:11] fak3r | sysadmin+- [16:45:19] lbjay | putting_your_nick_in_your_slides++ [16:45:26] JodiS_ | erikhatcher: screen's a bit smashed, but you and scolford are welcome to play [16:45:32] mbklein | royt's mustache has a mustache [16:45:35] scolford | mbklein: no way. can you forward that to me? [16:45:36] fak3r | lbjay++ [16:45:42] jfereira | Ommegang_Hennephin++ [16:45:48] anarchivist | ommegang++ [16:45:48] naomi | putting_your_knickers_in_your_slides-- [16:45:48] MrDys | that doesn't look like Jennifer Garner [16:45:49] gsf | so long, bloomington [16:45:51] mjg_ | royt: your mustache brings all the lice to the yard. [16:45:52] fak3r | "this is the IDS, open the door or we'll break it down" [16:45:54] atz | kgs: another year where the widest assembled group of collaborators can't get ppl to CMH [16:45:57] kgs | @sing James Brown: Hot Pants [16:45:58] erikhatcher | royt's mustache has a REST interface [16:46:00] ---| ---> eikeon [n=eikeon@140.147.245.39] has joined #code4lib [16:46:00] zoia | One-two One-Two-Three uh! / Hot pants- hey hot pants uh! smokin / Hot pants- smokin that-hot pants / Thats where its at a-thats where its at [16:46:06] BigD | no white castles for me :( [16:46:08] MrDys | kgs++ [16:46:14] lbjay | kgs++ [16:46:14] rsinger | hot_pants++ [16:46:15] edsu | kgs++ [16:46:16] akorphan | white_castle++ [16:46:18] * anarchivist wants another john nowlin lightning talk [16:46:20] fak3r | NIH [16:46:21] ---| <<-- danbri [n=danbri@unaffiliated/danbri] has quit ("going back to danbri.org") [16:46:30] rsinger | comfortably_warm_pants++ [16:46:36] JodiS_ | @quote add deep down, we're all hacking hotties [16:46:36] atz | @sing flypaper [16:46:36] BigD | white_castle++ [16:46:36] zoia | JodiS_: The operation succeeded. Quote #1751 added. [16:46:37] ecorrado | @sing beastie boys [16:46:38] zoia | atz: No songs found by flypaper [16:46:39] zoia | Brad's off twisting a win / And I can't afford to pay the feds / And now I'm never late on Friday night / By a transit cop looking to fight, he said [16:46:39] abarrera | nowlin++ [16:46:41] JodiS_ | licensing!!! [16:46:42] rsinger | more the neil sedaka version, i guess [16:46:43] JodiS_ | who is this? [16:46:44] robcaSSon | BigD: does asheville have Krystals? [16:46:47] anarchivist | nowlin++ [16:46:47] JodiS_ | where's he from? [16:46:51] JodiS_ | John Nowlin? [16:46:55] ecorrado | krystals++ [16:46:57] anarchivist | JodiS_: florida [16:46:57] BigD | robcaSSon: HERESY! [16:46:58] mbklein | @sing body count [16:47:01] zoia | she taught me hate for race / that's why I hate you! / There's only one way I can make it right, / momma's gotta die tonight. [16:47:01] fak3r | Rights to Ill? [16:47:02] rsinger | krystals-- [16:47:06] jfereira | He almost said fun [16:47:08] rsinger | squares from hell [16:47:10] anarchivist | JodiS_: he had the slide with the tighty whities around florida last year [16:47:11] robcaSSon | BigD: it's at least close. [16:47:12] fak3r | @sing refused [16:47:13] rsinger | with the onions stapled on [16:47:14] zoia | Fuck the idol, idol - Let's keep our eyes wide open / Reject the star / The rhymes of revolution / Poetry written in gasoline [16:47:16] kgs | CCLA, Nowlin is great. He was in the office next to mine when I worked there [16:47:20] harmless | Krystals? What's that? Chain of bars? [16:47:24] kgs | he has a great singing voice... just so you know [16:47:26] * robcaSSon snorts. [16:47:27] gsf | anarchivist: this is that guy? [16:47:28] JodiS_ | anarchivist: ok, I remember him :) from Wash/Or, but works for FL [16:47:29] anarchivist | kgs: he embodies the c4l sprit [16:47:31] scolford | krystals++ [16:47:31] anarchivist | gsf: no [16:47:32] fak3r | hey, zoia knows refused! w00t [16:47:34] robcaSSon | almost forgot the nowlin [16:47:43] eom | he was hilarious [16:47:47] gsf | anarchivist: yeah, he was different shaped [16:47:49] wickr | no, this isn't nowlin [16:47:50] mjg_ | so who is this gentleman? [16:47:51] scolford | harmless: white castle of the south [16:47:55] JodiS_ | oh, John Nowlin = FL facebook (tighty whitey) guy [16:47:55] anarchivist | gsf: he's here thsi year [16:47:56] ---| <--- eikeon [n=eikeon@140.147.245.39] has left #code4lib () [16:47:57] kgs | he's here, just not in channel. I know I love that presentation... Underpants Man [16:47:58] wickr | JodiS_: this guy is at SUNY Geneseo [16:47:58] * mjg_ was distracted by a mustache [16:48:03] JodiS_ | wickr++ [16:48:06] * akorphan is a fan of Sonic Burger [16:48:12] jwn | hilarias lightning talks are hard work [16:48:17] steambadger | We all have Krystal in the south. [16:48:21] MrDys | western ny in the haaas [16:48:26] kgs | John Nowlin is fairly tall with white hair [16:48:28] fak3r | the Illiad and the Odyssey [16:48:30] JodiS_ | licensing is a really big deal [16:48:32] steambadger | It was in the confederate constitution. [16:48:32] naomi | magick krystals? [16:48:33] rsinger | "We all suffer from Krystals down here" [16:48:37] harmless | nc is in The South? [16:48:42] fak3r | harmless: y [16:48:43] jbrinley | JodiS_: names/titles are being logged at http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/lightning [16:48:43] mbklein | Krystals Meth? [16:48:44] * bess is continually amazed at the huge parts of library business practices that she has never encountered before. [16:48:45] ejk | white castle sliders have a pretty short half-life [16:48:45] JodiS_ | harmless: yes [16:48:45] anarchivist | @herald get anarchivist [16:48:46] zoia | anarchivist: ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [16:48:55] abarrera | http://flickr.com/photos/nengard/2296745771/ [16:48:56] BigD | bess: me2 [16:48:56] JodiS_ | harmless: Mason-Dixon line is in MD/Virginia [16:48:56] rsinger | separatist blue south [16:48:57] jfereira | www.ashvillebars.com [16:48:58] atz | harmless.... um, yeah... NC is very southern [16:48:59] fak3r | logging_titles+ [16:48:59] JodiS_ | jbrinley++ :) [16:49:02] iand | harmless: surely the n means north, so it must be in canada? [16:49:02] gsf | kgs: any tattoos or identifying birth spots? [16:49:05] edsu | harmless: northern hemisphere tho [16:49:05] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [16:49:05] ---| <<-- decasm_nomad [n=decasm@wsip-70-164-25-26.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:49:14] JodiS_ | jbrinley++ [16:49:15] mbklein | JodiS_: Actually along the border between MD and PA [16:49:15] ---| <<-- g8tor [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5dcaee6f25507095] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:49:18] abarrera | and http://flickr.com/photos/nengard/2296742279/in/photostream/ [16:49:19] JodiS_ | jbinley++ [16:49:20] anarchivist | carolina++ [16:49:20] harmless | iand: i'm canadian and haven't seen it there ;) [16:49:33] JodiS_ | mbklein: ok, that makes more sense (know I passed it on my trip to NC) [16:49:35] timmcgeary | bess: this is a huge issue that my group has to deal with [16:49:36] iand | harmless: I think it was moved recently [16:49:42] fak3r | clap... [16:49:45] ---| ---> abrin [n=adam@wsip-70-164-25-103.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [16:49:48] timmcgeary | that's a great service [16:49:53] lbjay | are there pics of the recent c4l regionals in NYC? [16:49:54] BigD | mmm, sliders... http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2743598038/ [16:49:57] akorphan | very neat [16:49:58] naomi | looks like 10 to go ... [16:49:58] mbklein | JodiS_: MD/VA is where the IHOP-Waffle House line is. [16:49:59] fak3r | who's gonna pass the mike to ashville? [16:50:06] akorphan | cazzerson++ [16:50:07] harmless | iand: they can move the mason-dixon line? so like ... historical revisionism? [16:50:07] steambadger | Actually, NC and SC where recently flipped around an EW axis. [16:50:13] fak3r | does ashville keep the trophy now until next year? [16:50:20] fak3r | fonts++ [16:50:22] ecorrado | harmless: they actually did move it [16:50:30] gsf | ksclarke must represent [16:50:38] mjg_ | JodiS_: border between PA/DE and MD, I think. [16:50:40] ecorrado | but that was a long time ago [16:50:40] rsinger | open apple close apple cmd delete [16:50:41] iand | harmless: it's not actually a real line :) [16:50:41] fak3r | 'Ask us' - tie it to the chan [16:50:51] anarchivist | hyper-shift-meta-cokebottle-cokebottle [16:50:57] * anarchivist sets the buckybit [16:50:59] ejk | stickfigure++ [16:51:00] fak3r | stick_figure_in_peril++ [16:51:03] jbrinley | stick_person++ [16:51:05] edsu | @uri ashville, north carolina [16:51:06] zoia | edsu: DBpedia has URIs for... Asheville metropolitan area - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Asheville%2C_North_Carolina [16:51:13] ---| ---> Kerwick [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4931eca031d0678] has joined #code4lib [16:51:14] fak3r | flip camera bottom left [16:51:19] anarchivist | Kerwick++ [16:51:21] mbklein | chmod g+x mjgiarlo [16:51:35] rsinger | spelcheck [16:51:36] rsinger | _ [16:51:38] rsinger | + [16:51:40] naomi | calling_a_graph_a_visualization-- [16:51:42] harmless | where are some ratebeer/beeradvocate links to brews from nc to build enthusiasm for next year? [16:51:46] Kerwick | Thanks - not sure I made any sense :-) [16:51:46] rsinger | rsinger-- [16:51:47] MrDys | naomi: how is it not? [16:51:52] anarchivist | rsinger-- [16:51:54] fak3r | `chgrp -R code4lib fak3r` [16:52:02] * anarchivist sets rsinger's keyboard to dvorak [16:52:06] fak3r | looks like the stock market [16:52:09] jwn | graph looks like my 401K [16:52:12] gsf | my visualizations are more like in altered states [16:52:13] akorphan | i made that chart! [16:52:13] jbrinley | @dow [16:52:15] fak3r | that looks like pie [16:52:15] naomi | MrDys: why not call it a "graph"? [16:52:17] zoia | jbrinley: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [16:52:18] JodiS_ | harmless: there's a google map linked from the proposal page [16:52:20] edsu | @uri professor griff [16:52:21] zoia | edsu: DBpedia has URIs for... American Muslims - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Professor_Griff [16:52:22] jbrinley | @sandp [16:52:24] zoia | jbrinley: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [16:52:24] * anarchivist switched rsinger's keyboard for folger's Krystals [16:52:29] MrDys | naomi: tomato, tomahto [16:52:30] jbrinley | @nasdaq [16:52:34] zoia | jbrinley: 1,425.43; -16.40 (-1.14%) [16:52:35] rsinger | let's see if he notices [16:52:37] mjg_ | mbklein: please do not execute me. [16:52:41] anarchivist | @dunno search dvorak [16:52:42] zoia | anarchivist: 1 found: #19: "your problem is you're not on dvorak" [16:52:52] jfereira | Weeping Radish Brewery Manteo, NC [16:52:54] fak3r | qwerty_ftw++ [16:52:55] naomi | MrDys: i have higher hopes for information visualization [16:53:11] MrDys | that looks like george washington lying down [16:53:11] fak3r | made_up_graphs++ # always win! [16:53:16] edsu | made_up_graphs++ [16:53:16] steambadger | Duck Rabbit -- great Porter. http://www.duckrabbitbrewery.com/ [16:53:19] fak3r | MrDys++ [16:53:21] naomi | MrDys++ [16:53:21] robcaSSon | MrDys++ [16:53:22] jwn | it looks like the mountains around asheville [16:53:27] mjg_ | jmcasden++ [16:53:28] ---| <<-- scolford [i=46a4194b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79f01ab4ebf27999] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:53:28] ---| <<-- mbs [i=46a41945@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d570a79e99ef0938] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:53:28] fak3r | porters r good [16:53:30] bess | duck_rabbit++ [16:53:30] ---| <<-- mib_0u0vzo [i=46a41972@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b55e1f7f8c7f8a65] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:53:32] mbklein | anarchivist: I saw a tag-team demo at ALA 2007 where the laptop was set to Dvorak, and the second member of the tag team didn't know how to type on it. [16:53:43] ecorrado | who needs data when you can just make it up! [16:53:47] gsf | MrDys: george washington never lies down [16:53:49] mbklein | anarchivist: It was a major presentation planning FAIL. [16:53:49] fak3r | "what's working? when?" [16:53:56] mjg_ | george washington, george washington [16:53:56] rsinger | mbklein: was one of that team gsf ? [16:53:59] edsu | @dunno add please do not execute me! [16:54:00] zoia | edsu: The operation succeeded. Dunno #307 added. [16:54:00] fak3r | gsf: no, he never lies [16:54:05] gsf | MrDys: you're the one lying down [16:54:08] * anarchivist switches rsinger's keyboard to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blickensderfer_typewriter#Layouts [16:54:12] jtgorman | @dnd [16:54:13] zoia | jtgorman: strength:12 dexterity:13 constitution:17 intelligence:17 wisdom:8 charisma:13 [16:54:23] fak3r | @dnd [16:54:25] zoia | fak3r: strength:13 dexterity:10 constitution:14 intelligence:10 wisdom:15 charisma:14 [16:54:27] LibraryThingT | you rolling three dice or four? [16:54:27] fak3r | fun! [16:54:34] ejk | @dnd [16:54:35] zoia | ejk: strength:14 dexterity:14 constitution:9 intelligence:16 wisdom:14 charisma:15 [16:54:36] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: never peekd at the code [16:54:36] fak3r | 20_sided_dice++ [16:54:56] jtgorman | LibraryThingTim: I'd wager four...but it's hard to tell [16:55:02] rsinger | @ana DHIATENSOR keyboards [16:55:04] zoia | rsinger: Drab adroit hokeyness [16:55:15] jtgorman | @developer [16:55:16] zoia | jtgorman: Communication:10, BigPicture:17, DetailOriented:12, KungFu:17, GetsStuffDone:15, FlakeFactor:10 [16:55:16] anarchivist | @herald DHIATENSOR keyboards [16:55:18] zoia | anarchivist: Font up! [16:55:19] edsu | @moe [16:55:19] zoia | edsu: Oliver Clothesoff! Call for Oliver Clothesoff! [16:55:23] anarchivist | @hussein DHIATENSOR keyboards [16:55:24] zoia | anarchivist: Beauty! Dishonored rakishness [16:55:27] fak3r | so visualize usage data by making up a graph? can do! [16:55:35] lbjay | @inaworld [moe] [16:55:36] fak3r | signup_fail++ [16:55:36] zoia | In a world... where Mike Rotch! Mike Rotch! Hey, has anybody seen Mike Rotch lately? [16:55:36] rsinger | @hussein [moe] [16:55:38] zoia | rsinger: Crap! Oh Hell! Laconical fool [16:55:46] fak3r | shame_succeeded! [16:55:53] anarchivist | @hussein [quote random] [16:55:54] zoia | anarchivist: Hot shred quick joint [16:55:55] mjg_ | ejlynema++ [16:56:01] gsf | @cyborg dlfilsbdiapi [16:56:02] fak3r | TLAs gone wild [16:56:03] zoia | gsf: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name. [16:56:07] anarchivist | zoia: see robcaSSon about that [16:56:09] zoia | anarchivist: i don't know. maybe you should ask the evil prince or the kobold chieftain. [16:56:10] rsinger | mbklein: oh yeah, speaking of... [16:56:16] anarchivist | evil_prince++ [16:56:18] fak3r | you cannot have any spaces in your username, fail [16:56:24] anarchivist | kochief++ [16:56:25] robcaSSon | evil_prince++ [16:56:27] akorphan | dlf ils bdi api wtf bbq [16:56:30] fak3r | granny smith apple, shift N [16:56:32] mjg_ | dchud to the rescue [16:56:38] anarchivist | @herald get anarchivist [16:56:38] zoia | anarchivist: ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [16:56:42] bjy | apple-- [16:56:48] ejk | two finger salute [16:56:50] lbjay | you people and your macs [16:56:52] ecorrado | whateverwhatever++ [16:56:56] edsu | @twit [16:56:56] gsf | damn, for a second i thought she said peter binkley [16:56:58] zoia | edsu: ButtercupD: just finished a $16 cheeseburger. yes, meat on ash wednesday. so much for lent. [16:56:59] anarchivist | your problem is that you don't have enough hands [16:57:02] fak3r | quote too long for presentation [16:57:08] gsf | i mean, they're both cool [16:57:16] royt | it's Acrobat, not Mac [16:57:17] mbklein | rsinger: speaking of... [16:57:18] mbklein | ? [16:57:21] JodiS_ | presentation software is HARD [16:57:23] fak3r | spoiler: jangle mention on last page [16:57:24] anarchivist | royt: nah, it's preview [16:57:24] timmcgeary | clapping++ [16:57:32] anarchivist | preview's usability sux fullscreen [16:57:32] rsinger | mbklein: this [16:57:32] timmcgeary | damnit fak3r [16:57:38] fak3r | when I'm up there it's all about big flashcards! [16:57:46] edsu | stable_links++ [16:57:48] mjg_ | "everyone but III" [16:57:48] anarchivist | iii-- [16:57:50] fak3r | bob dylan style, dig? [16:57:50] anarchivist | iii-- [16:57:50] LibraryThingT | Looks like four (best three of four). Otherwise you get half-wits. [16:57:50] LibraryThingT | Yeah. Damn. A childhood well spent. [16:57:51] LibraryThingT | it just works! [16:57:51] naomi | fak3r: we want an interpretive dance [16:57:52] anarchivist | iii-- [16:57:54] anarchivist | iii-- [16:57:55] LibraryThingT | Why aren't we using PowerPoint? [16:57:55] anarchivist | iii-- [16:57:55] shanlera61 | iii-- [16:57:58] bjy | iii-- [16:58:00] lbjay | @dance [16:58:00] mbklein | rsinger: Yeah, I'm not sure I'm getting what I need out of this. :) [16:58:01] zoia | o/ [16:58:02] robcaSSon | and it begins [16:58:02] zoia | /| [16:58:03] zoia | >> [16:58:05] JodiS_ | iii-- [16:58:05] ---| ---> _ksclarke [i=46a4193a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33057cd1bcef1b64] has joined #code4lib [16:58:05] naomi | iii-- [16:58:06] abarrera | @karma iii [16:58:06] zoia | abarrera: Karma for "iii" has been increased 9 times and decreased 181 times for a total karma of -172. [16:58:09] fak3r | LibraryThingTim: dunno, but mroe ppl would know how to use it [16:58:09] timmcgeary | it isn't support, right? It's endorsing [16:58:12] ejk | iii--- [16:58:16] bjy | not low enough [16:58:19] bjy | iii-- [16:58:23] ecorrado | @karma [16:58:25] zoia | ecorrado: Highest karma: "edsu" (1072), "mjgiarlo" (1055), and "dbs" (865). Lowest karma: "iii" (-173), "sirsidynix" (-73), and "-" (-56). You (ecorrado) are ranked 29 out of 8783. [16:58:27] mjg_ | @most decreated [16:58:27] JodiS_ | _ksclarke! [16:58:28] zoia | mjg_: (most [] {increased,decreased,active}) -- Returns the most increased, the most decreased, or the most active (the sum of increased and decreased) karma things. is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. [16:58:28] ejk | @karma iii- [16:58:28] * robcaSSon was stoned in-channel 9 times [16:58:28] fak3r | oai_pmh++ [16:58:28] lbjay | @inaworld [karma iii] [16:58:29] zoia | ejk: Karma for "iii-" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2. [16:58:30] zoia | In a world... where Karma for "iii" has been increased 9 times and decreased 182 times for a total karma of -173. [16:58:31] mjg_ | @most decreased [16:58:33] anarchivist | @mf [band] [16:58:33] zoia mjg_: "iii": 182, "zoia": 154, "dbs": 126, "robcaSSon": 126, "edsu": 120, "mjgiarlo": 114, "sirsidynix": 83, "rsinger": 77, "lbjay": 69, "-": 58, "jrochkind": 48, "royt": 43, "voyager": 39, "jtgorman": 39, "ie": 34, "ksclarke": 34, "mbklein": 32, "<-": 29, "anarchivist": 29, "PHP": 26, "rob_desk": 25, "firefox": 25, "JodiS": 25, "ibahn": 24, and "gsf": 24 [16:58:34] shanlera61 | AAA++ [16:58:37] zoia | Hey, Voltage Miser... [16:58:39] zoia | .-. [16:58:41] zoia | |-| [16:58:43] zoia | | | [16:58:45] _ksclarke | JodiS hey [16:58:45] zoia | _.-|=|-. [16:58:47] zoia | / | | | | [16:58:49] zoia | | |\ [16:58:51] zoia | | / [16:58:53] zoia | \ /` [16:58:55] mbklein | dbs is the most decreased human? [16:58:55] zoia | | | [16:58:57] abarrera | mjgiarlo-- [16:58:59] fak3r | if [something != something_else]; then... [16:59:07] robcaSSon | mbklein: we're tied [16:59:07] anarchivist | @most increased [16:59:09] zoia anarchivist: "edsu": 1192, "mjgiarlo": 1169, "dbs": 991, "rsinger": 912, "lbjay": 701, "gsf": 637, "robcaSSon": 592, "zoia": 544, "jtgorman": 513, "jbrinley": 485, "jrochkind": 471, "anarchivist": 470, "royt": 436, "mbklein": 416, "dchud": 399, "ksclarke": 362, "wickr": 314, "MrDys": 295, "erikhatcher": 236, "eby": 208, "JodiS": 202, "BenO": 200, "BillDueber": 195, "jaron": 195, and "jaf": 174 [16:59:18] dbs | tied like dogs in heat [16:59:19] fak3r | 10 print "fak3r"; 20 goto 10 [16:59:32] abarrera | robcaSSon-- # not anymore [16:59:38] mbklein | robcaSSon: Congratulations...Only iii and zoia are more despised than you. [16:59:39] gsf | dbs-- [16:59:41] anarchivist | ROSS DOESNT LIVE HERE ANYMORE [16:59:53] bess | jangle++ [16:59:57] timmcgeary | jangle++ [16:59:57] gsf | dbs: too vivid you are [16:59:58] abarrera | robcaSSon-- # take that gsf [16:59:59] dbs | gsf: you're just bitter because you couldn't share a room with me [17:00:00] fak3r | xc, dls dlf - huh? [17:00:03] naomi | bess++ [17:00:14] fak3r | KLF? [17:00:15] anarchivist | DLF, UH HUH, UH HUH UH HUH [17:00:20] fak3r | "enter the tardis"? [17:00:24] dbs | s/bitter/relieved/ [17:00:24] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [17:00:25] akorphan | DLF is gonna rock you [17:00:26] fak3r | anarchivist++ [17:00:27] akorphan | Are you ready? [17:00:27] mbklein | djangle++ [17:00:43] JodiS_ | rsinger++ [17:00:43] fak3r | dlfangle? [17:00:47] MrDys | @sing KLF : 3am eternal [17:00:49] anarchivist | wankel_rotary_engine++ [17:00:50] gsf | dbs: it's so cold and empty in there [17:00:52] mbklein | djfiangle? [17:00:52] JodiS_ | jangle++ [17:00:57] atz | dlfandango? [17:00:59] zoia | MrDys: No lyrics for 3am eternal by KLF. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [17:01:02] naomi | mr. bowdjangles [17:01:15] mbklein | Step 2: Put your USB drive in the box [17:01:19] jwn | device_removal-- [17:01:19] ejk | @rate code4lihb code4lieb [17:01:21] fak3r | cereal solutions [17:01:24] zoia | ejk: code4lihb: ?; code4lieb: ?. [17:01:24] lbjay | spoiler: he's going to apologize for the hard sell [17:01:25] gsf | severe hazing here [17:01:28] fak3r | mbklein++ [17:01:30] robcaSSon | mbklein++ [17:01:31] naomi | code4lied [17:01:34] timmcgeary | not_knowing_where_to_put_your_stick-- [17:01:37] mbklein | pandering-- [17:01:38] mjg_ | better summon a working usb bus [17:01:38] fak3r | hazing-- [17:01:39] abarrera | fak3r++ [17:01:44] BigD | trying_to_hard++ [17:01:45] fak3r | bacon_ref fail [17:01:45] naomi | timmcgeary!! [17:01:48] ecorrado | @rate powerpoint pdf [17:01:52] zoia | ecorrado: powerpoint: 0.6; pdf: 4.8. powerpoint sucks! [17:01:56] jfereira | @rate bacon tofu [17:01:58] fak3r | bacon/tofu cage match [17:01:58] zoia | jfereira: bacon: 9.9; tofu: 8.8. bacon rocks! [17:02:03] edsu | @naf francis bacon [17:02:05] zoia | edsu: [9 matches] [1] Bacon, Francis, 1561-1626 ; [2] Bacon, Francis, 1909-1992 ; [3] Bacon, Francis ; [4] Bacon, Francis, 1831-1912 ; [5] Bacon, Francis L. (Francis Leonard), 1889-1958 ; [6] Bacon, David Francis, (1 more message) [17:02:05] BigD | shouldn't nagy do that? [17:02:07] akorphan | @rate klf dlf [17:02:12] zoia | akorphan: klf: 9.9; dlf: 9.9. dlf rocks! [17:02:15] anarchivist | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/02/wrestle_jam_grab.jpg [17:02:16] MrDys | beLIEve [17:02:17] abarrera | salespitch-- [17:02:17] fak3r | I want to believe! [17:02:18] gsf | this guy really adapts [17:02:19] naomi | has he been drinking Sean's magick koolaid? [17:02:20] lbjay | i guess i was wrong [17:02:26] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a41910@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-209e377c5fbd0c44] has joined #code4lib [17:02:26] mbklein | YES WE CAN [17:02:27] lbjay | wtf? [17:02:30] JodiS_ | sean's_koolaid-- [17:02:30] fak3r | scully? is that you? [17:02:31] anarchivist | magick_koolaid++ [17:02:36] timmcgeary | SOA: Believe [17:02:36] ejk | randomslidecolors++ [17:02:36] atz | @ana DLF ILS API [17:02:37] glennewton | Vendors get lightnings to continue their sell job?? [17:02:37] zoia | atz: Dial splif [17:02:38] wickr | this is a poor imitation of MrDys [17:02:38] akorphan | Mulder? [17:02:41] anarchivist | ROSS DOESNT LIVE HERE ANYMORE [17:02:42] pmurray | Good heavens -- I go away for an hour or so and there are 1623 unread IRC messages! [17:02:44] jwn | dire_extrapolations bad [17:02:45] edsu | WE WILL BE GOOGLE [17:02:45] fak3r | wickr: ya [17:02:46] mjg_ | This is the awesomest turnaround since Ted Haggard [17:02:48] iand | what is it with code4lib and wackout colours? [17:02:52] anarchivist | mjg_++ [17:02:55] gsf | wickr: yeah, where's the tie? [17:02:55] ---| <<-- royt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f96e66cc1a7aeca8] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:02:56] fak3r | ted_haggard++ [17:03:00] timmcgeary | mjg_++ [17:03:00] robcaSSon | mjg_++ [17:03:01] shanlera61 | BS [17:03:06] wickr | glennewton: well, things are wide open [17:03:06] mbklein | The pandering is even more evident when you notice that the filename was "Stupid Slides.ppt" [17:03:08] BigD | pmurray: there are 3 gems in there. find them. [17:03:10] abarrera | mjg_++ [17:03:11] mpark | i'm getting sunburned [17:03:13] fak3r | library_centric-- [17:03:15] JodiS_ | mbklein++ [17:03:16] endupok | more expensively [17:03:18] shanlera61 | tgf summon [17:03:18] MrDys | http://dysinterested.com/summon.png [17:03:19] fak3r | oss ftw! [17:03:20] ---| ---> mib_tnu5gb0t [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cc28dc35988e6ad1] has joined #code4lib [17:03:20] MrDys | MrDys-- [17:03:21] anarchivist | mpark: i'm working on my tan [17:03:22] robcaSSon | solr [17:03:22] atz | pmurray.... it's the middle of the conf! [17:03:22] fak3r | solr, again? [17:03:23] mbklein | (unless it was "Summon Slides.ppt" and I just can't see) [17:03:24] pmurray | BigD: Damn -- My scrollback buffer doesn't go that far back. [17:03:24] lbjay | i think i can hear petercline's teeth grinding from here [17:03:26] anarchivist | mpark: ask BigD [17:03:28] rsinger | The reports of my demise... [17:03:29] kat3 | mbklein: i saw that [17:03:30] fak3r | shamwow! [17:03:30] rsinger | wait, wtf [17:03:33] shanlera61 | lunar++ [17:03:33] mjg_ | MrDys++ MrDys++ MrDys++ [17:03:34] ejk | 3 =LEMON, 4=LIME [17:03:34] robcaSSon | solr++ # obviously [17:03:35] jwn | what would you call that color? [17:03:37] rsinger | summon again? [17:03:38] fak3r | MrDys++ [17:03:40] abarrera | BigD takes big shards [17:03:41] shanlera61 | a playdate [17:03:42] bjy | shamwow [17:03:45] anarchivist | summon_yellow++ [17:03:48] JodiS_ | this makes me think: Pabst. (as in marketing strategy) [17:03:49] ecorrado | @cyborg summon [17:03:49] gsf | rsinger: catsup! [17:03:52] bess | jwn: that color is post-asparagus-pee color [17:03:52] fak3r | smash the DMRC! [17:03:52] zoia | ecorrado: S.U.M.M.O.N.: Synthetic Upgraded Machine Manufactured for Online Nullification [17:03:53] akorphan | @rate omg wtf bbq [17:03:54] jwn | i've seen my kids produce it when they were little [17:03:55] erikhatcher | fak3r: the sun is always shining! [17:03:57] zoia | akorphan: omg: 8.9; wtf: 9.5; bbq: 9.9. bbq rocks! [17:03:59] mbklein | bess++ [17:04:03] ---| ---> domnat [i=46a41970@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eacb1579c97415f6] has joined #code4lib [17:04:06] * anarchivist reads a scroll of summon cool URIs [17:04:13] mjg_ | I'm going to need to summon bifocals soon [17:04:13] fak3r | smaller index? sounds personal [17:04:13] erikhatcher | bess: ewwww [17:04:14] timmcgeary | bess: eewwwww [17:04:15] JodiS_ | where is the content? [17:04:18] Kerwick | wow...my presentation was really drab colored... [17:04:22] cschx | @ana believe technology [17:04:22] zoia | cschx: Gooey, hell-bent vice [17:04:25] anarchivist | you following me camera guy? [17:04:26] jfereira | @sing harry nillson : put the lime in the coconut [17:04:27] fak3r | too many words per slide? [17:04:28] dlovins | @cyborg bacon [17:04:28] zoia | jfereira: No lyrics for put the lime in the coconut by harry nillson. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [17:04:29] mjg_ | Kerwick++ [17:04:30] zoia | dlovins: B.A.C.O.N.: Biomechanical Artificial Construct Optimized for Nullification [17:04:31] JodiS_ | 5 minutes of demo would have been way better [17:04:33] fak3r | google_load_fail [17:04:35] fak3r | this might work! [17:04:36] mbklein | bess++ ignore those miscreants [17:04:40] akorphan | @rate slapchop shamwow [17:04:42] fak3r | the internets is brok3n [17:04:45] zoia | akorphan: slapchop: 0.0; shamwow: 2.0. slapchop sucks! [17:04:47] shanlera61 | blinky [17:04:49] timmcgeary | google_down++ [17:04:53] edsu | @ana providence is at your doorstep [17:04:55] zoia | edsu: Oppressive, unodored atrocity [17:04:56] LibraryThingT | libraries_pitting_themselves_against_google-- [17:04:58] robcaSSon | keylogger? [17:04:58] mib_tnu5gb0t | less than a minute to go [17:05:02] mbklein | zoia++ [17:05:03] MikeTaylor | I blame the font choice. [17:05:06] JodiS_ | libraries_pitting_themselves_against_google-- [17:05:06] fak3r | passwd steal [17:05:08] mbklein | edsu++ for the setup [17:05:10] robcaSSon | i believe [17:05:11] dlovins | zoia++ [17:05:12] BigD | if you type "google" into google, you'll bring the internet down [17:05:13] fak3r | keylogger++ [17:05:14] ejk | password = "password" [17:05:15] JodiS_ | libraries_not_learning_from_google-- [17:05:18] lbjay | JodiS_++ [17:05:21] bess | erikhatcher: was it you who said "ls is not broken" ? I love that. [17:05:25] fak3r | password="default" [17:05:29] edsu | i would like to do a 4 * anarchivist reads a scroll of summon cool URIs [17:05:38] bjy | password= [17:05:39] lbjay | LibraryThingTim++ [17:05:42] edsu | heheh, whoops :) [17:05:42] mjg_ | "good librarians search; great librarians google." [17:05:44] mbklein | Pretty [17:05:45] LibraryThingT | anyone from Google here? [17:05:46] JodiS_ | "everything that I might expect"? boy, you underestimate me. and what I can notice in 10 sec [17:05:50] wickr | include ane exclude with check boxes? [17:05:51] mib_al7bayth | username? [17:05:52] timmcgeary | mjg_++ [17:05:53] fak3r | done! [17:05:55] bess | JodiS_++ [17:06:03] erikhatcher | bess: credit goes to the Pragmatic Programmer book for that one [17:06:04] LibraryThingT | Oooh. I get Karma 1? [17:06:06] LibraryThingT | @karma [17:06:06] fak3r | bad device removal [17:06:07] zoia | LibraryThingTim: Highest karma: "edsu" (1073), "mjgiarlo" (1054), and "dbs" (864). Lowest karma: "iii" (-173), "sirsidynix" (-73), and "-" (-56). [17:06:07] * ecorrado wants the global warming kit so he can make it warm here [17:06:07] rsinger | HOW MANY SUMMONS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR? [17:06:09] MikeTaylor | That was memorable. [17:06:16] JodiS_ | username for their demo site? [17:06:17] mbklein | @karma LibraryThingTim [17:06:17] LibraryThingT | @karma LibraryThingTim [17:06:17] zoia | mbklein: Karma for "LibraryThingTim" has been increased 7 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 5. [17:06:19] zoia | LibraryThingTim: Karma for "LibraryThingTim" has been increased 7 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 5. [17:06:19] timmcgeary | fak3r: that's what she said [17:06:20] ---| <<-- mib_4am0n4xt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d9a5d115d253439c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:06:20] akorphan | BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE [17:06:24] codemonkey | fak3r++ [17:06:24] anarchivist | rsinger: OVER NINE THOUSAND ONLY IF YOU GIVE ME MORE JANGLE [17:06:29] fak3r | mjg_: this guy looks like the singer from dandy warhols (hair at least) [17:06:30] chickmarkley | ls [17:06:31] anarchivist | ROSS DOESNT LIVE HERE ANYMORE [17:06:33] mjg_ | what project? [17:06:36] edsu | Ϟ talk about google books would be fun [17:06:38] chickmarkley | ls [17:06:43] ejk | Adjusting the Image [17:06:45] bess | has anarchivist been replaced with a chat bot? [17:06:46] fak3r | don't you have to mention solr in each talk? [17:06:47] JodiS_ | googlebooks++ [17:06:48] mjg_ | fak3r++ [17:06:51] atz | kobainesque doo [17:06:52] akorphan | mjg_: sllffff or something like that. [17:06:54] erikhatcher | baconsalt [17:06:54] edsu | and how fucking awesome it is to have searches pulling up actual pages in books [17:06:57] gsf | dig++ [17:06:58] iand | thank you for that presentation, it completely takes the heat off of rjw for showing Talis Aspire sneakily in his Juice presentation [17:06:59] naomi | it's SALT [17:07:01] mib_al7bayth | salt project? [17:07:03] BigD | bess: we can only hope [17:07:04] dlovins | @cyborg salt [17:07:04] timmcgeary | resolution_problems-- [17:07:06] naomi | self archiving luminary toolkit [17:07:06] zoia | dlovins: S.A.L.T.: Synthetic Android Limited to Troubleshooting [17:07:07] LibraryThingT | feeling_of_two_minds_about_google_books++ [17:07:09] fak3r | 640x kick it old school! [17:07:09] MrDys | project: sodium [17:07:13] mib_al7bayth | yum... salty [17:07:15] akorphan | Did they just LOWER the resolution? [17:07:16] gsf | bess: he doesn't smell like a chat bot [17:07:18] fak3r | no rush, I'm having fun [17:07:18] mjg_ | beer hour in 8m [17:07:18] kat3 | it's OK! [17:07:25] erikhatcher | press the green button [17:07:25] fak3r | self archiving [17:07:26] lbjay | @urbandict salted [17:07:27] akorphan | push the button frank. [17:07:28] mib_al7bayth | sodium cholride? [17:07:28] zoia | lbjay: salted: When someone is insulted, embarassed, or made to look like a fool of some sort. Originally "assaulted", but later reduced to a more convenient syllable count. (David Oh: Matt, youre such a fuckin douchebag! (Matt cries) Passing man: YOU BEEN SALTED!); when pain is inflicted by means of insult, blackmail, or general embarassment. originated from when salt is sprinkled into a wound, causing further stinging and (5 more messages) [17:07:29] anarchivist | stanford++ [17:07:32] naomi | he IS a mac user [17:07:33] Kerwick | Switched computers [17:07:34] LibraryThingT | acronyms-- [17:07:35] wtd | I hope the Summon demo can continue in tomorrow's lightning talks. [17:07:40] ecorrado | bacon is salted! [17:07:43] fak3r | but will it snow tomorrow? [17:07:43] ejk | akorphan++ [17:07:44] naomi | anarchivist++ [17:07:47] eom | seems to be a vga/dvi thing [17:07:47] timmcgeary | ecorrado++ [17:07:50] gsf | i've only used BeOS. what is this thing? [17:07:54] naomi | fak3r: not at stanford [17:07:55] fak3r | access to computer++ [17:07:59] atz | dry_humor++ [17:08:08] erikhatcher | "I'm not a Mac user" - overheard in the last two talks [17:08:12] anarchivist | gsf++ [17:08:14] fak3r | printed out emails, that's umpossible! [17:08:19] jbrinley | they OCR the printed emails? [17:08:21] mjg_ | pies++ [17:08:22] anarchivist | WHAT WE NEED IS A COMMON DISCOVERY INTERFACE [17:08:24] * jtgorman kinda hopes that the talk of the summon stuff is exaggerated and sets weren't taken up in this conference by someone trying to sell a product [17:08:25] fak3r | I'm not a crack user. [17:08:26] jwn | fingers in pies get sticky [17:08:26] wickr | is it weird to anyone else to see *.googlepages.com for this? [17:08:27] atz | wonder if they printed the headers too [17:08:27] LibraryThingT | And then email themselves the PDF. [17:08:28] timmcgeary | not touching that [17:08:30] abarrera | BigD's had his fingers in a lot of different pies [17:08:31] MrDys | fak3r++ [17:08:32] BigD | TPS Report [17:08:32] fak3r | OCR FTW! [17:08:36] ecorrado | who let them non-Mac users in... shouldn't they be professing their sins? [17:08:39] rsinger | I BELIEVE [17:08:43] fak3r | BigD: we're using the new timesheets now... [17:08:45] naomi | he *is* a mac user. [17:08:45] jtgorman | s/sets/seats/ [17:08:49] shanlera61 | printed the emails and then transcribed them into notepad [17:08:51] edsu | this sounds awesome [17:08:53] bjy | ecorrado-- [17:08:58] LibraryThingT | snark-- [17:08:58] naomi | the project is cool. [17:09:02] naomi | talk to him later. [17:09:02] mib_al7bayth | juicy vindictivness [17:09:02] jwn | vinidictiv manusccripts -- [17:09:03] fak3r | open calais, check the license though! [17:09:04] gsf | naomi: can't tell a book by its cover [17:09:06] anarchivist | naomi: i may have to [17:09:07] BigD | abarrera needs some new shtick if anyone has some extra... [17:09:09] anarchivist | this is really awesome [17:09:12] fak3r | what could go wrong? [17:09:17] kgs | LibraryThingTim or as someone called it, the C4L quilting bee [17:09:19] timmcgeary | leaking_prof_papers++ [17:09:24] mbklein | Next year's podium computer: A Core Duo Macbook Pro running OS X with XP and Ubuntu VMs available on alternate desktops. [17:09:24] fak3r | discovery (card) system? yeah, we don't take that [17:09:26] * jbrinley has thought at two times in his life that mayberhe should use a Mac. 1st time: c4l08. 2nd time: c4l09. [17:09:30] anarchivist | fuck yeah, seaking [17:09:31] fak3r | mbklein++ [17:09:32] lbjay | /msg anarchivist say #code4lib I AM A MORNO [17:09:36] kgs | called these days the stitch-n-bitch [17:09:39] LibraryThingT | Don't know what a quilting bee is. [17:09:42] * jbrinley will get over it [17:09:44] smkiewel | trying_to_hear_over_stomach_grumbles-- [17:09:44] bjy | mbklein++ [17:09:46] BigD | is that the google algo? [17:09:47] mib_al7bayth | i too am staggarded by the vindictivness [17:09:51] MikeTaylor | mbklein: I bet the Ubuntu VM won't be able to drive the VGA port. [17:09:51] kgs | LibraryThingTim no! that cannot be [17:09:53] fak3r | wait, pdftotext can pull the text from there [17:09:53] anarchivist | salting_the_hash++ [17:09:57] ecorrado | mbklein: there was cmware on the lappy up there [17:10:00] atz | presentation_VMs++ [17:10:03] mbklein | fak3r: I run XP on a second desktop in my office. Ctrl+RightArrow and I'm in Windows. Ctrl+LeftArrow and I'm back to OS X [17:10:03] LibraryThingT | fiber_arts-- [17:10:07] anarchivist | is that flamingo? [17:10:09] fak3r | $^/^sso$./ed [17:10:09] gsf | jbrinley: don't do it [17:10:12] erikhatcher | jbrinley: get a Mac [17:10:12] dbs | I'm with mbklein [17:10:13] LibraryThingT | pasta_arts__ [17:10:14] anarchivist | or flamenco? whatever its called? [17:10:16] akorphan | What's the difference between something written in the 0000s and the ones in the 000s? [17:10:16] gsf | jbrinley: totally overrated [17:10:16] timmcgeary | use VuFind for this? [17:10:16] naomi | anarchivist: yes, flamingo [17:10:17] LibraryThingT | ++ rather [17:10:20] robcaSSon | anarchivist: good question [17:10:21] steambadger | @karma [17:10:22] zoia | steambadger: Highest karma: "edsu" (1073), "mjgiarlo" (1054), and "dbs" (864). Lowest karma: "iii" (-173), "sirsidynix" (-73), and "-" (-56). You (steambadger) are ranked 575 out of 8816. [17:10:24] erikhatcher | jbrinley: tell Lucid to buy you one :) [17:10:24] anarchivist | naomi: thanks [17:10:28] fak3r | $^/^sso$./ed <- denial of service attempt [17:10:28] robcaSSon | naomi++ # good answer [17:10:33] jbrinley | erikhatcher++ # will do [17:10:33] naomi | anarchivist: i mean flamenco [17:10:35] mjg_ | I use ubuntu and have no need of anything else. [17:10:40] akorphan | "Let me introduce you to Dixon Ticonderoga..." [17:10:41] * anarchivist knows his california-based faceted browsing interfaces :) [17:10:45] edsu | damn [17:10:46] gsf | @wordstats add freebase [17:10:46] mib_al7bayth | cool... use of freebase [17:10:47] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. [17:10:48] jbrinley | erikhatcher: think marc will notice if I just bill it? [17:10:48] dbs | err, hell no, I'm not with mbklein and his OS X crap; Ubuntu host, Win XP guest [17:10:48] kgs | is this the last one? [17:10:51] fak3r | mjg_: tru here too, desktop linux ftw [17:10:51] lbjay | gets cooler every minute [17:10:51] atz | case-sensitive facets is lame [17:10:54] mjg_ | freebase++ [17:11:00] naomi | convoluted path to getting programmers on project. [17:11:06] mbklein | @wordstats solr [17:11:06] naomi | they'll be switching to solr soon. [17:11:07] zoia | mbklein: Error: "solr" doesn't look like a word I'm keeping stats on or a user in my database. [17:11:08] anarchivist | naomi: understandable [17:11:09] ejk | freebase++ [17:11:10] fak3r | $^/^sso$./ed ? agree, or disagree, discuss! [17:11:13] mbklein | @wordstats add solr [17:11:14] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [17:11:17] anarchivist | naomi: still very very cool [17:11:22] edsu | holy crap [17:11:24] fak3r | Erro: cannot [17:11:27] JodiS_ | @later tell jrochkind Could you please add http://wdsnow.blogspot.com/ to the planet? SALT project blog [17:11:27] zoia | JodiS_: The operation succeeded. [17:11:29] erikhatcher | jbrinley: lol, he'd notice [17:11:31] gsf | huh? [17:11:31] mbklein | @wordstats craptastic [17:11:32] zoia mbklein: Top 3 "craptastic"ers (out of a total of 19 "craptastic"s seen): mbklein: 9, lbjay: 4, and jrochkind: 2. [17:11:35] fak3r | self-depreciation always wins [17:11:43] anarchivist | naomi: what's his email [17:11:44] BigD | he needs a hug [17:11:46] naomi | cfitz++ [17:11:47] robcaSSon | that_guy++ # he was the one with the Dead Moon shirt [17:11:49] atz | "Hey there lonely girls... looooonley girls...." [17:11:51] fak3r | @sing dandy warhols [17:11:51] edsu | that dude rules [17:11:53] JodiS_ | atz++ [17:11:53] gsf | BigD: squeeze the lonely out of him [17:11:54] anarchivist | dead_moon++ [17:11:54] mib_al7bayth | prizes? [17:11:55] ---| <--- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [17:11:56] zoia | fak3r: No lyrics for One by dandy warhols. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [17:11:57] akorphan | If there's anything that code4lib has taught me, it's that I could create the ultimate library geek tool by somehow combining freebase, lucerne, solr, and frbr [17:11:58] mjg_ | that_dude++ [17:11:59] anarchivist | gsf++ [17:12:03] naomi | cfitz@stanford.edu [17:12:04] ---| <<-- dlacy [i=46a41929@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-11b352d6346249e9] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:12:05] fak3r | $^/^sso$./ed [17:12:08] MikeTaylor | Never mind the book giveaway, I want to know more about Summon! [17:12:10] robcaSSon | @sing Dead Moon : 54 40 or Fight [17:12:11] anarchivist | gsf: BigD tried to do that last night [17:12:15] atz | heartbreaker_hairdo++ [17:12:15] zoia | robcaSSon: No lyrics for 54 40 or Fight by Dead Moon. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [17:12:15] jbrinley | random.random()++ [17:12:15] fak3r | fanny_packs-- [17:12:18] mjg_ | edsu++ [17:12:20] mjg_ | lbjay++ [17:12:22] fak3r | atz++ [17:12:23] bess | edsu++ [17:12:25] mbklein | akorphan: Lucerne == Large Dairy Conglomerate. Lucene == Search Engine :) [17:12:25] LibraryThingT | regex_in_IRC++ [17:12:26] akorphan | BUT THAT'S NOT ALL [17:12:28] anarchivist @herald get lbjay [17:12:29] zoia | anarchivist: now entering the ring: jay filthy luker [17:12:38] fak3r | python magazine, oh boy! [17:12:41] akorphan | mbklein: yeah yeah [17:12:44] ejk | I'm gonna run upstairs to vid chat with the kids. D&B group meeting at 7, right? [17:12:45] mbklein | @sing flight of the conchords : ladies of the world [17:12:46] naomi | PHP?????? [17:12:47] zoia | J: Parisian / B: (Ladies) / J: Bolivian / B: (Ladies) [17:12:48] ---| <<-- jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d0b00d710bf6868c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:12:48] gsf | akorphan: Lucille == awesome guitar [17:12:49] bess | isn't php architect an oxymoron? [17:12:52] naomi | pass the bucket. [17:12:52] robcaSSon edsu++ lbjay++ [17:12:54] rsinger | First up, YOU GET A SUMMON MANUAL, YOU GET A SUMMON MANUAL, YOU GET A SUMMON MANUAL [17:12:54] ---| User: *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away [17:12:56] akorphan | I still can't tell the difference between Jangle and Django by ear. [17:12:56] liza31337 | But wait is there more? [17:12:58] mib_al7bayth | void where prohibited by law [17:12:59] mjg_ | bess++ # ouch! [17:12:59] fak3r | but it's a 70$ value, but wait, there's more! [17:13:00] LibraryThingT | snark_against_php-- ! [17:13:02] ---| <<-- kreiss [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b9573e77aeffaee6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:13:06] BigD | your credit card will not be charged at this time [17:13:07] fak3r | sorry tennessee [17:13:07] jfereira | but for you, $89 [17:13:08] mbklein | @sing flight of the conchords : ladies of the world : * [17:13:10] zoia | Two, three! / J: Ooohhh.ooooh. / B: Just wanna do something special for all the Ladies in the World / J: Oh yes / B: Just wanna do somethin' special / J: Ah / B: For all the Ladies in the world / J: Is that possible? / B: And the gir-rls / Don't forget them girls / J: Caribbean / B: (Ladies) / J: Parisian / B: (Ladies) / J: Bolivian / B: (Ladies) / J: Namibian / B: (Ladies) / J: Eastern Indochinian / B: (Ladies) / J: (4 more messages) [17:13:10] anarchivist | ROSS DOESNT LIVE HERE ANYMORE [17:13:12] edsu | rsinger: stop it i'm cracking up [17:13:19] naomi | 2nd prize: 2 subscriptions. [17:13:20] mbklein | @more [17:13:20] zoia | mbklein: Republic of Dominican / B: (Ladies) / J: Amphibian / B: (Ladies) / J: Presbyterian / B: (Ladies) / J: Outta sight / B: Amazin' ladies / J: Late night / B: Hard workin' ladies / J: Erudite / B: Brainy ladies / J: Hermaphrodite / B: Lady-man-ladies / J: Oh you sexy hermaphrodite lady-man-ladies / With your sexy lady bits / And your sexy man bits too / Even you must be in to you-ooo-ooo / B+J: All the ladies in the world / (3 more messages) [17:13:22] MrDys | coughing covers laughing [17:13:28] MikeTaylor | Can we trust Python's random number generator? [17:13:30] mib_al7bayth | MOAR prizes!!!!11 [17:13:31] JodiS_ | ejk: that's the word--7PM D&B [17:13:32] fak3r | where's the source code? [17:13:32] BigD | anarchivist: fix yer bot [17:13:35] akorphan | MrDys: Only barely! [17:13:35] mjg_ | anarchivist-- [17:13:39] mjg_ | anarchivist: stop that. [17:13:39] anarchivist | I NEED A NEW ENTROPY SOURCE [17:13:40] fak3r | 118 = 10 [17:13:41] timmcgeary | flight_of_the_concords++ [17:13:42] anarchivist | ROSS [17:13:46] rjw | That cough is no joke [17:13:48] edsu | 24601! [17:13:50] fak3r | that's not my name [17:13:52] mjg_ | THE FIX [17:13:54] LibraryThingT | So? [17:13:55] fak3r | fixed! [17:13:57] mib_al7bayth | random number my ass [17:13:58] robcaSSon | anarchivist++ # lolz [17:14:02] fak3r | boooo! [17:14:03] mpark | randomizer-- [17:14:05] ejk | reseed [17:14:05] abarrera | brown_randomness-- [17:14:06] timmcgeary | randomizer-- [17:14:07] Kerwick | random_number-- [17:14:08] fak3r | throw shoes! [17:14:09] naomi | birkin-- [17:14:10] MikeTaylor | Frikkin' Python! [17:14:16] fak3r | python fails [17:14:17] anarchivist | lauren uses python, of course it was rigged [17:14:23] fak3r | up arrow return [17:14:28] mbklein | anarchivist: When you type in ALL CAPS, you're royt, right? [17:14:32] fak3r | .... 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[17:15:25] edsu | first timer - cold stone creamery [17:15:26] mbklein | Seth Rogaine [17:15:30] jbrinley | I thought it was alphabetical [17:15:32] mjg_ | anarchivist: I WANT A NEW DRUG [17:15:33] ---| <<-- was [n=was@smtp.gfn.org] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [17:15:34] fak3r | that's not how you pronounce my name [17:15:39] jbrinley | 20 was bisson, 28 was burton-west [17:15:39] robcaSSon | anarchivist: were you at our breakout session? [17:15:43] akorphan | "I thought I WAS going faster!" [17:15:44] fak3r | mbklein++ [17:15:47] ejk | @ana entropy source [17:15:47] zoia | ejk: Prone courtesy [17:15:53] bess | JodiS++ [17:15:55] fak3r | hmmm...I know her [17:15:57] mbklein | JodiS++ [17:15:58] timmcgeary | JodiS++ [17:16:00] anarchivist | radioactive bits [17:16:02] mib_al7bayth | must be alphabetical [17:16:02] fak3r | twitter this! [17:16:14] MrDys | lot of first time love [17:16:14] mib_al7bayth | bisson before burton [17:16:15] fak3r | clap... [17:16:16] atz | @karma twitter [17:16:17] zoia | atz: Karma for "twitter" has been increased 1 time and decreased 6 times for a total karma of -5. [17:16:21] naomi | carrying_more_stuff_on_planes-- [17:16:30] akorphan | not me. [17:16:32] * mbklein never wins anything [17:16:32] fak3r | a winner is..not me [17:16:34] BigD | naomi's a sore loser [17:16:37] fak3r | wrong [17:16:38] naomi | LOL [17:16:42] gsf | MrDys: we ♡ firsttimers [17:16:48] fak3r | apparently [17:16:50] * akorphan has to check bags on the way back anyway. [17:16:55] fak3r | sweater_vest++ [17:16:56] mib_al7bayth | if i win gonna replace the gideon bible in my hotel room with PHP for dummies... [17:16:58] fak3r | lucy? [17:17:01] abarrera | ted_mf_lawless++ [17:17:04] mbklein | Xena's brother? [17:17:05] BigD | gsf: why do we box first timers? [17:17:05] ---| <<-- tvol [n=chatzill@38.219.132.100] has quit (Success) [17:17:05] mjg_ | Ted "MOTHERFUCKING" Lawless++ [17:17:07] JodiS_ | twitter+- [17:17:11] fak3r | mjg_++ [17:17:14] gsf | that guy knows no bounds [17:17:15] JodiS_ | edsu++ [17:17:16] mjg_ | ted++ [17:17:16] JodiS_ | edsu++ [17:17:17] fak3r | meet the mets, come on and... [17:17:29] timmcgeary | fak3r-- [17:17:30] naomi | get mets, it pays. [17:17:35] dchud | fak3r++ [17:17:37] JodiS_ | naomi++ [17:17:37] fak3r | courney or michael, which one? [17:17:55] * anarchivist is getting wrapped in BigD's METS package [17:18:06] mib_al7bayth | clap clap clap [17:18:07] fak3r | only clap if someone stands up [17:18:10] mbklein | Women are winning things in disproportionate numbers. Gender diversity problem my ass. [17:18:17] BigD | anarchivist: nope, i have Standards. get it? ha! [17:18:18] mbklein | (kidding! really! don't hurt me! ow!) 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[21:52:41] ksclarke | yeah1 [21:52:50] ksclarke | and called home already :-) [21:53:25] ---| ---> eikeon [n=eikeon@dsl092-168-195.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [21:53:25] zoia | :D [21:56:23] ---| ---> akorphan [i=62b63cab@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df4f08ff33792949] has joined #code4lib [21:56:35] akorphan | evening folks [22:04:20] wtd | Sure has quieted down a lot from th afternoon frenzy. [22:04:41] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:05:41] ---| ---> mib_ewkqhz [i=46b7a75f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fa12f9ce1da8bf43] has joined #code4lib [22:06:09] ---| <--- mib_ewkqhz [i=46b7a75f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fa12f9ce1da8bf43] has left #code4lib () [22:13:38] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:14:46] wtd | I tried to set up an accunt at Freebase and it threw me a nice 400 Bad Request expressed in JSON. [22:14:58] wtd | Um, s/accunt/account/ [22:17:09] ---| ---> erikhatcher_ [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:17:09] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [22:17:50] wtd | Ah, cookie problem. [22:23:00] ---| ---> highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-47.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [22:23:00] dchud | as zoia is about to indicate, it is now safe to depart for the whatever (handel) room [22:27:12] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [22:29:08] akorphan | How's things at the hotel? [22:30:30] ksclarke | is the handel room downstairs or up? 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(added by jbrinley at 08:21 AM, April 02, 2008) [22:43:20] jbrinley | ksclarke: just pick them up at a kiosk at the airport [22:44:34] ksclarke | I learned on my way up here that for southwest that the earlier you checkin the earlier you board (and pick a seat) [22:45:17] ksclarke | maybe I can checkin now but print out once I get to the airport [22:45:26] wickr | ksclarke: yeah I think you can [22:45:53] anarchivist | @quote random [22:45:54] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #531: " what else is a soul but so many scattered pieces of paper?" (added by ksclarke at 03:50 PM, November 17, 2006) [22:46:06] ejk | Looking at train tix to Darien tomorrow afternoon. Anyone driving by any chance? [22:46:06] jbrinley | ksclarke: that's what I did [22:47:13] ksclarke | great, jbrinley++ [22:47:18] * ksclarke goes to do [22:47:34] anarchivist | ejk: not going til early fri [22:47:51] ksclarke | and wickr++ [22:48:24] ejk | anarchivist: that's cool. The train is like $63 for coach and $99 for biz class [22:48:53] ejk | but it's a very nice way to travel [22:48:59] anarchivist | ejk: awesome, thanks! [22:58:53] ---| <<-- erikhatcher_ [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [22:59:48] ---| ---> fak3r_away [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-102.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:00:54] * akorphan got position A01 on southwest. Yes, I have a bit of a compulsion. [23:05:50] ksclarke | akorphan++ #wow [23:06:14] ejk | Alright, I'm on the 2:20 train, can pick up my ticket at the station [23:06:34] ksclarke | off to bed to read then sleep [23:06:39] ---| <--- ksclarke [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-58.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib ("Leaving.") [23:07:11] BillDueber | so, the business center isn't hte business center anymore [23:07:15] BillDueber | It's someone's office [23:07:22] BillDueber | You print your boarding pass in the lobby. [23:07:34] BillDueber | But...my room key got me into what was once the b-center. [23:07:35] BillDueber | Oops. [23:07:44] * jbrinley is confused [23:08:04] BillDueber | jbrinley: Tell me about it. [23:08:11] ejk | BillDueber: can you print from a PDF? [23:08:32] ejk | assuming you made it to the lobby [23:08:36] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:08:36] BillDueber | ejk: I didn't look for a usb port, but I'm pretty sure it was all out there in the open, so I don't see why not. [23:09:02] wtd | I prinrted a PDF down there. [23:09:15] BillDueber | Access wasn't restricted -- not like some kiosks that only go to airport websites. Just an empty IE window. [23:09:24] ejk | cool [23:09:29] ejk | BillDueber++ [23:09:32] ejk | wtd++ [23:09:56] BillDueber | For the record, the computers in the no-0longer-a-business-center are protected, but there's a cool giant red paperweight that I was tempted to walk off with... [23:10:00] wtd | Look under Office or Other Applications to find the file manager icon. [23:11:19] dchud | hey the handel room is where the action is again tonight [23:12:23] * wtd heads don. [23:12:28] ---| <<-- wtd [n=buff@shell1.dm.egate.net] has quit ("Leaving") [23:16:50] ---| ---> erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:16:54] ---| ---> vtd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bbd0317b07ad088b] has joined #code4lib [23:18:36] ---| <<-- TokeEAway [n=vircuser@wsip-70-164-25-116.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [23:18:45] lbjay | party is in the whatever room [23:18:53] BillDueber | @marc 700 [23:18:53] zoia | BillDueber: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. 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(added by edsu at 02:53 PM, May 12, 2008) [23:24:19] ejk | I now have a train ticket confirmation and I bumped back my checkout time til 1 tomorrow [23:26:44] lbjay | youtube++ # cool uris [23:32:01] anarchivist_ | lbjay: http://flickr.com/photos/bigdpix/2299726147/ [23:35:44] jbrinley | goodnight, all [23:35:52] ---| User: *** jbrinley is now known as jbrinley_asleep [23:36:29] ---| <<-- vtd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bbd0317b07ad088b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [23:38:09] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [23:38:10] zoia | ΓΘλΞ [23:38:21] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-171e5a34ae05832e] has joined #code4lib [23:38:34] ---| ---> scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-75.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:38:35] zoia | O HAI [23:38:47] ---| <<-- jtgorman [n=jon@c-98-220-253-23.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ("Leaving.") [23:38:58] anarchivist_ | @herald get anarchivist [23:38:58] mbklein | im in ur #code4lib [23:38:58] zoia | anarchivist_: ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [23:39:05] scolford | omg my herald worked!!! [23:39:15] mbklein | bot++ [23:39:33] scolford | bot rocks my ass. awesome. [23:39:43] gsf | @herald get scolford [23:39:44] zoia | gsf: O HAI [23:40:18] gsf | scolford++ [23:40:35] anarchivist_ | closedvocab4eva [23:40:57] scolford | gsf: btw, all that having-to-get-back-so-i-could-work stuff? total crap. i had an epic vpn fail. [23:41:09] gsf | scolford: of course [23:41:11] anarchivist_ | ROSS DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE [23:41:28] akorphan | BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE [23:42:13] mbklein | TAKE THAT $19.99 VALUE, ADD A 3-PACK OF OFFICIAL ROY TENNANT THONGS. NOW HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY? [23:42:23] scolford | 19.99 [23:42:27] anarchivist_ | YOU WITH ME CAMERA GUY? [23:42:35] mbklein | $2.58 [23:42:37] ---| ---> dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [23:42:46] mbklein | hi dan [23:42:54] anarchivist_ | O HAI IM IN UR VOCAB FOAFING UR CHUD [23:42:58] gsf | mbklein: dan is clinking [23:43:09] * mbklein used up all his capital letters just now [23:43:10] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [23:43:12] dchud_ | hallo [23:43:23] ---| User: *** dchud_ is now known as dchud [23:43:35] mbklein | clinking? dan, did you eat scrap metal or something? [23:44:02] gsf | mbklein: toasts in the whatever room [23:44:07] gsf | mbklein: you should come on down [23:44:17] anarchivist_ | no sex in the whatever room [23:44:31] scolford | well that's out, then. [23:44:32] gsf | whatever except sex [23:44:32] mbklein | gsf: can I still get in? [23:44:41] gsf | mbklein: yep [23:44:45] akorphan | Then it's not really "whatever", is it? [23:44:54] dchud | nom nom nom [23:44:56] anarchivist_ | mbklein: yup [23:44:57] mbklein | i thought it was over at 11. ok, I might pop down for a hi. [23:45:01] anarchivist_ | mbklein: it's open [23:45:06] mbklein | nice. [23:45:10] gsf | mbklein: we've got the door open [23:45:12] mbklein | is it byob at this hour? :) [23:45:30] gsf | mbklein: yes, but i believe the bar is still serving [23:45:31] anarchivist_ | mbklein: yeah, but last call at the bar is 12:30 [23:45:37] mbklein | kthxbye [23:45:44] gsf | anarchivist_: fuck you i win [23:45:48] anarchivist_ | gsf++ [23:45:58] mbklein | gsf++ [23:46:13] gsf | @inaworld where the video is loaded [23:46:13] zoia | In a world... where where the video is loaded [23:46:23] gsf | fucking fail [23:46:37] anarchivist_ | @ana chump of a drunk [23:46:39] zoia | anarchivist_: Fork up and much [23:48:06] akorphan | @ana you with me camera guy [23:48:08] zoia | akorphan: Ouch! Yummier gateway [23:48:33] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-171e5a34ae05832e] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") --- Log closed Wed Feb 25 23:48:53 2009 --- Log opened Wed Feb 25 23:59:28 2009 [23:59:28] ---| ---> lbjay [n=lbjay@li25-184.members.linode.com] has joined #code4lib [23:59:28] -!-| Irssi: #code4lib: Total of 49 nicks 0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 49 normal [23:59:28] zoia | now entering the ring: jay filthy luker [23:59:29] -!-| Irssi: Channel: Join to #code4lib was synced in 2 secs --- Day changed Thu Feb 26 2009 [00:00:02] anarchivist | ROSS DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE [00:01:27] scolford | gsf: oy. glad i'm not a girl at this conference. or on second thought... [00:01:28] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [00:01:53] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:04:56] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [00:04:57] ---| ---> dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:06:17] ---| ---> highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-47.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:06:18] gsf | scolford: come on down if ur interested [00:06:32] lbjay | @quote add mine only ever discovers casey bisson's [00:06:32] zoia | lbjay: The operation succeeded. Quote #1753 added. [00:07:43] scolford | gsf: thanks. but i think it's safer for all if i don't.;-) besides, i'm tucked up in bed with my mac and a dvd of 3 Penny Opera. AW3SOM3. [00:08:05] gsf | lbjay: must be casey's extra musky manliness [00:08:29] scolford | eek [00:08:34] anarchivist | seth_rogan++ [00:08:57] anarchivist | @quote random [00:08:57] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #823: " I skipped Denial and went straight to Anger. If I make it to Bargaining, it will be with another vendor, or Open Source of some sort." (added by ksclarke at 05:05 PM, April 11, 2007) [00:08:58] ---| <<-- dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [00:09:10] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:09:31] scolford | sirsidynix-- [00:09:52] gsf | ksclarke++ [00:10:23] scolford | ksclarke++ [00:10:26] gsf | uh oh, another crowd is about to enter the whatever [00:11:57] scolford | omg 3 penny opera is so *dirty*. [00:13:09] gsf | ♴ [00:13:22] gsf | ♳ [00:13:41] gsf | ♵ [00:13:52] gsf | ♶ [00:15:00] ---| <<-- highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-47.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [00:15:36] lbjay | T O K E [00:15:47] scolford | gsf: are you sure about that order? for me, that was 2-1-3-4 [00:16:07] gsf | scolford: i'm not sure of anything [00:16:30] anarchivist | @quote random [00:16:30] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #488: " someday life will be sweet like a rhapsody" (added by eby at 09:28 PM, October 26, 2006) [00:16:40] scolford | i'm sure nancy perl is shiny. that's about it. [00:16:54] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-106ce100ed6107c3] has joined #code4lib [00:17:23] gsf | scolford++ almost forgot [00:17:23] anarchivist | NANCY PERL DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE [00:17:23] mbklein | @known [00:17:24] zoia mbklein: I know URIs for the following 43 users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, flyingzumwalt, gsf, jbrinley, jmspargu, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, royt, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [00:17:25] gsf | high hopes for ala2009 [00:17:34] scolford | thems the jokes, my freind. [00:17:38] mbklein | @herald get anarchivist [00:17:39] zoia | mbklein: ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [00:17:59] mbklein | @foaf bess currentProject [00:18:00] zoia | mbklein: bess : [00:18:02] scolford | oh that's pretty in 20 pt font [00:19:38] ---| ---> bess [n=eos8d@wsip-70-164-25-30.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:19:53] mbklein | @known bess [00:19:53] zoia | mbklein: bess's URI is [00:22:30] anarchivist | paging BigD's nipples [00:24:45] ---| <<-- fak3r_away [i=phil@wsip-70-164-25-102.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [00:31:00] ---| ---> chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f5f0b5ef356746d6] has joined #code4lib [00:31:27] mbklein | @pirate [quote random] [00:31:28] zoia | mbklein: Quote #711: "< dbs> jrochkind: I suspect somethin' cartesian be goin' on :)" (added by gsf at 03:39 PM, February 15, 2007) [00:31:35] mbklein | @sing the door [00:31:36] zoia | mbklein: No songs found by the door [00:31:40] mbklein | @sing the doors [00:31:41] zoia | Tell all the people that you see / Follow me / Follow me down / Tell all the people that you see [00:32:24] scolford | cartesian-- [00:33:25] mbklein | @predicates mbklein mjg_ [00:33:26] zoia | mbklein: Relationships asserted by mbklein about mjg_: , [00:34:20] mbklein | @foaf interest cazzerson [00:34:20] zoia | mbklein: I don't know interest's URI [00:34:32] mbklein | @foaf cazzerson interest [00:34:32] zoia | mbklein: cazzerson : , , , , [00:35:01] mbklein | @common interest bess mbklein mjg_ [00:35:04] zoia | mbklein: Common s: , , [00:35:06] ---| <<-- eby_ [n=ebyr@c-71-206-107-74.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit ("Leaving...") [00:35:28] mbklein | @known [00:35:28] zoia mbklein: I know URIs for the following 43 users: Baroquem, BigD, BillDueber, JodiS, MrDys, abarrera, akorphan, anarchivist, asnagy, atz, bess, cazzerson, cbeer, charper, dlovins, ecorrado, ejk, escowles, fak3r, flighty, flyingzumwalt, gsf, jbrinley, jmspargu, jphipps, jstroop, kgs, ksclarke, lbjay, liza31337, mbklein, mjg_, pmurray, ranti, robcaSSon, royt, rsinger, scolford, smkiewel, tomkeays, wickr, wtd, zoia [00:40:38] chickmarkley | @ana am i on [00:40:38] zoia | chickmarkley: Im a no [00:40:48] chickmarkley | That's what I thought [00:41:08] chickmarkley | @karma iii [00:41:09] zoia | chickmarkley: Karma for "iii" has been increased 9 times and decreased 182 times for a total karma of -173. [00:41:32] chickmarkley | iii-- # just for fun [00:41:40] chickmarkley | @karma iii [00:41:40] zoia | chickmarkley: Karma for "iii" has been increased 9 times and decreased 183 times for a total karma of -174. [00:42:04] anarchivist | jayblivious++ [00:42:23] anarchivist | lbjay: l "boy" jay [00:42:38] scolford | huh [00:42:43] ---| ---> chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-17.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:42:51] ---| <<-- akorphan [i=62b63cab@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4f0ddfdaed828cbe] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [00:42:51] ---| <--- chickmarkley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f5f0b5ef356746d6] has left #code4lib () [00:43:07] chickmarkley_ | I did not [00:43:12] scolford | @ana Mack the Knife [00:43:13] zoia | scolford: Fake thick men [00:43:16] anarchivist | @quote add these figs look awesome [00:43:16] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1754 added. [00:44:03] scolford | wtf are you doing down there? [00:44:07] * lbjay doesn't get it [00:44:26] lbjay | scolford: it varies [00:44:38] scolford | nice [00:44:46] anarchivist | LBJAY DOESN'T LIVE IN ARKANSAS ANYMORE [00:44:47] lbjay | anarchivist: muscle-t++ [00:45:04] anarchivist | MOAR_SLEEVLESS++ [00:45:11] scolford | oh damn. i am missing out, arnt i? [00:45:25] anarchivist | scolford: come down 2 th handle room [00:45:38] lbjay | scolford: CAN YOU HANDEL ROOM? [00:45:51] anarchivist | @quote add < rsinger> we blows [00:45:52] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1755 added. [00:46:14] scolford | haha, barely. but i may. wait, you're only open for 15 minutes more? [00:46:26] anarchivist | scolford: ABOUT 9 HOURS [00:46:34] mbklein | @known JodiS [00:46:34] zoia | mbklein: JodiS's URI is [00:46:36] lbjay | when is breakfast? [00:46:51] scolford | omg you people eat breakfast? [00:46:55] anarchivist | lbjay: NAO [00:47:06] * anarchivist CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER? [00:47:53] * scolford has had cheezburger. not so hot akchually [00:49:39] * anarchivist CAN ONLAY SEE CASEY BISSONS BONJOUR CAHN U HELP ME [00:49:47] lbjay | ana not so hot akchually [00:49:55] scolford | have you non-stale snacks there? [00:50:02] lbjay | @ana not so hot akchually [00:50:03] zoia | lbjay: Lanky, hot holocaust [00:50:07] anarchivist | scolford: chocolates [00:50:12] lbjay | scolford: choco [00:50:15] chickmarkley_ | chocolates [00:50:27] anarchivist | chickmarkley_++ [00:50:28] anarchivist | ALL YOU'NS [00:50:56] scolford | oy. okay. i put Polly Peachum on hold and will be down in 5. [00:51:35] ---| <<-- scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-75.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [00:51:56] anarchivist | buffalo_tenders++ [00:53:20] lbjay | @hussein Polly Peachum [00:53:21] zoia | lbjay: Heinously lumps cheap [00:53:41] ---| ---> scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-75.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:53:42] zoia | O HAI [00:54:43] ---| <<-- bess [n=eos8d@wsip-70-164-25-30.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [00:54:43] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [00:54:45] ---| ---> dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [00:56:46] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [00:58:55] scolford | i was promised muscle tees and all i get is a tight hanes. [01:02:37] anarchivist | @quote add < scolford > i was promised muscle tees and all i get is a tight hanes. [01:02:37] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1756 added. [01:02:48] scolford | doi! [01:03:22] scolford | as it were. so to speak. [01:04:55] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@wsip-70-164-25-21.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [01:05:56] anarchivist | JodiS++ [01:06:02] scolford | JodiS_as_benevolent_monarch++ [01:06:26] scolford | JodiS_is_Ozma++ [01:06:30] mbklein | anarchivist: pull this up and crank the volume. i promise it's not a rickroll. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE1ehQ-TstE [01:06:32] chickmarkley_ | Jodi+chocolate++ [01:07:09] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-113.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [01:09:06] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [01:09:07] ---| <<-- dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [01:09:07] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [01:09:13] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-106ce100ed6107c3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [01:09:28] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [01:09:28] zoia | ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [01:09:42] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [01:09:42] zoia | ΓΘλΞ [01:14:24] gsf | if royt blogs while he's drinking he gets to expense the scotch [01:14:50] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1fd27b2e0481df5a] has joined #code4lib [01:16:01] mbklein | @later tell jrochkind http://free-to-all.digital.bpl.org.s3.amazonaws.com/streams/bpldc:08_06_000655/08_06_000655.jpg [01:16:01] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [01:17:58] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1fd27b2e0481df5a] has quit (Client Quit) [01:20:13] anarchivist | goats4lib.org [01:20:50] anarchivist | @quote add < rsinger> no mercy, sensei, no mercy [01:20:50] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1757 added. [01:22:45] scolford | anarchivist: sooo tempted to add the .se to that or something. [01:23:02] anarchivist | ROSS DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE [01:24:05] chickmarkley_ | ΓΘλΞ [01:24:16] anarchivist | @herald get anarchivist [01:24:17] zoia | anarchivist: ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [01:25:03] anarchivist | edsu has a sweet hat [01:25:11] anarchivist | chickmarkley_++ [01:25:25] scolford | @herald scolford [01:25:26] zoia | scolford: http://www.stopabductions.com/ [01:25:42] anarchivist | scolford: @herald get scolford [01:25:59] scolford | oh [01:26:16] anarchivist | @herald get scolford [01:26:16] zoia | anarchivist: O HAI [01:26:17] scolford | @herald get scolford [01:26:18] zoia | scolford: O HAI [01:27:15] anarchivist | @[obamit [dick [mccainize [herald get anarchivist]]] [01:27:15] zoia | anarchivist: Error: Missing "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. [01:27:18] anarchivist | @[obamit [dick [mccainize [herald get anarchivist]]]] [01:27:20] zoia | anarchivist: sorry i'm playing air keyboard while watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkurWAXgZs [01:27:30] anarchivist | @obamit [dick [mccainize [herald get anarchivist]] [01:27:30] zoia | anarchivist: Error: Missing "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. [01:27:35] anarchivist | @obamit [dick [mccainize [herald get anarchivist]]] [01:27:35] zoia | anarchivist: Look, here's what I'm saying... I don't mean to be a dick, but My friends, ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [01:29:19] ---| ---> dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [01:29:20] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [01:31:08] gsf | @later tell mjgiarlo ur black box is actually a japanese penis [01:31:08] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. [01:32:17] anarchivist | @quote add < edsu> what's kerning? [01:32:17] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1758 added. [01:33:26] ---| <<-- scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-75.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [01:35:26] ---| ---> scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-75.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [01:35:27] zoia | O HAI [01:35:59] anarchivist | @quote add < mjgiarlo> THIS IS PAZPAR [01:35:59] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1759 added. [01:36:12] dchud_ | the sleepy [01:36:17] ---| <<-- dchud_ [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [01:39:32] ---| <<-- scolford [n=scolford@wsip-70-164-25-75.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [01:40:39] ---| ---> dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [01:43:12] gsf | @quote add i actually have a short film where it's a real pony head this guy is wearing [01:43:12] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1760 added. [01:43:58] gsf | dchud: are you on again? [01:45:22] gsf | lbjay: you really snuck out of here lb [01:46:11] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [01:46:34] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [01:46:34] zoia | ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [01:46:47] ---| ---> MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [01:46:53] gsf | @quote add isn't that soy sauce? [01:46:53] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1761 added. [01:50:29] anarchivist | @quote add < mjgiarlo> the murders there were killer [01:50:29] zoia | anarchivist: The operation succeeded. Quote #1762 added. [01:51:45] anarchivist | @obama [01:51:45] zoia | anarchivist: BARACK OBAMA RESPECTS YOUR OPINION [01:51:48] anarchivist | @obama [01:51:49] zoia | anarchivist: BARACK OBAMA FOLDED YOU AN ORIGAMI CRANE [01:51:51] anarchivist | @obama [01:51:51] zoia | anarchivist: BARACK OBAMA EMAILED YOUR DAD AND TOLD HIM HOW GREAT YOU ARE [01:51:52] anarchivist | @obama [01:51:53] zoia | anarchivist: BARACK OBAMA CARRIES A PICTURE OF YOU IN HIS WALLET [01:51:57] anarchivist | @hillary [01:52:00] zoia | anarchivist: None [01:55:48] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [01:55:58] MrDys | gsf: I'm too lazy to learn how to modify the supybot plugin to do it, but if you could, modify 8ball such that when someone asks "does ross live here?" it respods appropriately [01:56:12] MrDys | that would be way awesome [01:57:15] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-24.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [02:02:31] gsf | @last --with frost [02:02:31] zoia | gsf: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. [02:02:57] ---| <<-- dchud [n=dchud@wsip-70-164-25-36.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [02:03:46] gsf | @quote add tab completion is like a compound bow [02:03:46] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1763 added. 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[07:24:17] zoia | JodiS: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [07:24:47] JodiS | @dunno add "You have been rate limited." [07:24:47] zoia | JodiS: The operation succeeded. Dunno #309 added. [07:26:29] ---| Channel: JodiS changed the topic of #code4lib to: #c4l09 Ballroom 7:45-8:45, continental breakfast. Stuff gets started@8:45 Today's schedule: http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [07:27:33] ---| ---> shoe [n=shoe@ip24-250-63-6.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [07:30:07] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has quit () [07:31:02] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has joined #code4lib [07:34:55] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has quit (Client Quit) [07:35:01] ---| ---> vtd [i=46a41951@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-093cc6cb6e468abb] has joined #code4lib [07:35:39] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has joined #code4lib [07:43:59] erikhatcher | JodiS: thanks for that link [07:44:44] JodiS | erikhatcher: np, got mentioned last night [07:45:10] erikhatcher | JodiS: still got the chumby? coming down in a few minutes, would love to see it [07:45:33] JodiS | erikhatcher: cool, still in my room, will bring it down. dunno if scolford's seen it either [07:45:34] ---| <<-- kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@cbl171004.sce.ceinetworks.com] has quit () [07:45:46] JodiS | erikhatcher: really glad you're doing consulting now lucidimagination++ [07:45:56] erikhatcher | thanks! [07:46:41] erikhatcher | i'm actually gonna cut out this morning and wander around a bit, probably go to the RISD Museum. got a 2:25pm flight, but havent' seen any of this town yet really [07:49:33] ---| ---> phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m3e5e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #code4lib [07:49:38] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@wsip-70-164-25-86.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [07:58:09] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [07:59:45] ---| <<-- mbs [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-118f6b0576eb65ec] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [08:01:46] JodiS | Wow, can upload 2 MB from my room in seconds... 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[08:14:33] anarchivist | akorphan: today's feels worse [08:14:47] anarchivist | akorphan: probably that 9.5% beer i had as my last one in the whatever room last night [08:14:55] akorphan | ooh, what beer was it? [08:15:07] anarchivist | akorphan: i don't remember; i just remember it was 9.5% alcohol [08:16:10] anarchivist | code4lib - promoting functional alcoholism and functional programming since 2006 [08:16:58] akorphan | I guess we need to have a functional alcoholism programming breakout. [08:17:22] anarchivist | akorphan: i thing some people already have [08:17:28] anarchivist | s/thing/think [08:18:31] ---| ---> mib_rpm2c58d [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-40025acdff7c2a5a] has joined #code4lib [08:20:54] MrDys | akorphan: victory golden monkey [08:21:34] anarchivist | MrDys++ [08:22:36] akorphan | MrDys: Origin? 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[08:36:15] ---| ---> emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:36:17] mdoyle | Im heading to the airport around 1030 as well [08:36:31] ejk | MrDys: technically it's noon [08:36:31] ---| ---> gbilder [i=46a41947@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ef68292a8af06580] has joined #code4lib [08:36:40] ejk | I asked and they puched mine back to 1 [08:36:48] ejk | s/puched/pushed [08:37:00] ---| User: *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray [08:37:17] ---| ---> mib_jzir6biy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-99a87920803bfa6c] has joined #code4lib [08:37:19] BillDueber | mdoyle: Wanna share a cab? Meet me in the lobby at 10:30 -- I'll arrange for a cab to be there. [08:37:28] mdoyle | sounds good [08:37:40] BillDueber | mdoyle++ (saves me $15) [08:38:05] mouwd | They're updating their system at 11 so you might want to check out before then. [08:38:22] akorphan | Yes, midday right around the end of checkout time, perfect schedule for system maintenance. [08:39:02] * BillDueber 's wife's college did an email system upgrade at noon Wednesday, the week before finals. [08:39:09] BillDueber | Downtime was....longer than anticipated. [08:39:11] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:39:28] ---| ---> edc_mibbit [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c5d178d232e3813] has joined #code4lib [08:40:13] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e08ef12c0a20ee24] has joined #code4lib [08:40:29] jbrinley | And port 6667 is blocked again today... 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[08:50:57] rjw | code4libre [08:50:57] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a41951@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-107cacf1b5acbea0] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [08:51:10] ejk | @hosts2011 [08:51:11] zoia | ejk: Peculiar, Missouri [85]; Gross, Nebraska [83]; Eek, Alaska [74]; Jupiter, Florida [45]; Aces of Diamonds, Florida [30]; Blueballs, Pennsylvania [17]; Cold Foot, Alaska [15]; Lollipop, Texas [6] [08:51:15] JodiS | lbjay: thanks for the code4libEU shoutout this AM :) [08:51:17] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a41951@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e0d404ddedc45c57] has joined #code4lib [08:51:18] ---| ---> mib_ph1mayqv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b30353e8b130c4a4] has joined #code4lib [08:51:20] ---| ---> shekhar [n=shekhar@c-98-216-51-36.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #code4lib [08:51:31] JodiS | hey naomi :) [08:51:37] ---| ---> bseitz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3d2eb6cb8a4a3367] has joined #code4lib [08:51:40] naomi | budget_issue-- [08:51:41] JodiS | shekhar! are you in town? [08:51:41] ---| User: *** mib_ph1mayqv is now known as fak3r [08:51:44] naomi | hi Jodis! [08:51:59] akorphan | Hi naomi. Looked for you at beer o'clock last night but couldn't find you. [08:52:02] shekhar | JodiS: depends on what you mean by town [08:52:06] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a41951@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e0d404ddedc45c57] has quit (Client Quit) [08:52:18] ---| ---> kgs [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5f250e8c79cd808c] has joined #code4lib [08:52:29] kgs | ibahn-- [08:52:39] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7eed5768f7d18e98] has joined #code4lib [08:52:42] shekhar | i'm in cambridge, since they started selling crack at code4lib some of us got bumped to the waiting list [08:52:54] ---| ---> mdoyle [i=46a41951@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e44f4f2cc6d389ac] has joined #code4lib [08:53:15] ---| ---> jaf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a5cb891fbc8cd261] has joined #code4lib [08:53:19] ---| ---> mjg_ [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79ac0cc50b27aa7b] has joined #code4lib [08:53:31] ---| ---> jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1e9bf86b558aa013] has joined #code4lib [08:53:35] pmurray | @excuse [08:53:36] zoia | pmurray: My excuse for today is "failure of the AE-35 unit" [08:53:45] ---| ---> jtgorman [n=chatzill@libstfsys11.library.uiuc.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:53:45] zoia | Mortals! Tremble in fear, fer ye doom approaches! th' skies gunna burn, th' seven seas boil! He arr....oh, sorry thought it was someone else. 'tis just jtgorman. [08:53:55] bseitz | shekhar: they don't sell it, it's comes free with registration [08:53:58] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-042833f7d388294d] has quit (Client Quit) [08:53:58] ---| <<-- cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-23b100411017dce8] has quit (Client Quit) [08:53:59] naomi | akorphan: it's hard to find me at beer o'clock b/c i don't drink [08:54:03] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [08:54:04] akorphan | entropy_generator++ [08:54:15] shekhar | bseitz: is that why registration is so expensive? shiit... [08:54:17] akorphan | naomi: there was crudite, too! [08:54:21] naomi | akorphan: and I'm leaving 11ish this morning, so accost me at the break [08:54:33] akorphan | naomi: Roger, where are you seated? [08:54:33] naomi | akrophan: yes, i played rabbit nicely! [08:54:35] ---| ---> epoz [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e4beb58470422851] has joined #code4lib [08:54:41] ejk | Bingo! [08:54:44] shekhar | Anyone interested in drinks at MIT this evening? [08:55:05] naomi | akorphan: right side facing the dias. by the wall [08:55:11] ---| ---> mpark [i=8094d667@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-516c95a07615ef52] has joined #code4lib [08:55:24] jaf | Anyone interested in drinks in Darien this evening? [08:55:25] bseitz | shekhar: we're sponsored by the providence police dept, they have a lot of extra. [08:55:27] jbrinley | shoe: ping [08:55:35] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has joined #code4lib [08:55:35] zoia | ℬÅ℞ℬℚ [08:55:42] mjg_ | anarchivist++ [08:55:45] fak3r | greetz [08:55:55] akorphan | posthumus is the awesomest last name ever [08:55:55] BillDueber | psudo-random-- [08:56:02] mjg_ | mornin', y'alls. [08:56:02] naomi | akorphan++ [08:56:06] fak3r | akorphan: he's got a great domain name too [08:56:07] ejk | esposthumus++ [08:56:20] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-95b00e0bb115ed3c] has joined #code4lib [08:56:23] akorphan | naomi: any distinctive clothing by which to identify you? [08:56:24] mjg_ | epoz++ # who really doesn't want to add two books to his suitcase [08:56:24] JodiS | fak3r: I still haven't figured out what you look like [08:56:26] naomi | anyone going to airport leaving 11ish today? [08:56:45] naomi | akorphan: pinkish top, blue and black fleece vest [08:56:47] * shekhar organizing crack4lib in Cambridge next year [08:56:54] jaf | no pants [08:56:56] naomi | akorphan: i'm female. ;-) [08:57:00] BillDueber | naomi: mdoyle and I are leaving at 10:30 -- I'm sure we can fit one more in the cab. [08:57:01] naomi | jar: LOL [08:57:03] akorphan | naomi: red macbook? [08:57:04] epoz | akorphan++ [08:57:05] * jtgorman is reminded he needs to dig up youtube videos of that MIT Fashion show...mythril? [08:57:12] ---| ---> dmer [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f53c10ef722b7c02] has joined #code4lib [08:57:12] naomi | BillDueber: sounds good. [08:57:24] BillDueber | @seen mdoyle [08:57:25] naomi | akorphan: you got it [08:57:25] zoia | BillDueber: mdoyle was last seen in #code4lib 19 minutes and 56 seconds ago: sounds good [08:57:33] akorphan | You are basically looking directly at me. [08:57:38] * anarchivist digs up videos of stallman doing the soulja boy dance [08:57:38] ---| ---> BLTnoTomato [i=837a6839@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e5398ba017ea4a0d] has joined #code4lib [08:57:39] akorphan | if you look forward, that is. [08:57:53] jbrinley | oldtimers++ [08:57:55] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [08:57:56] anarchivist | royt++ [08:57:59] MrDys- | BLTnoTomato: someone mentioned the other night that you were asking about LibGuides...? [08:58:01] ---| User: *** MrDys- is now known as MrDys [08:58:02] akorphan | crotchety_oldtimers++ [08:58:02] anarchivist | s/timer/fart [08:58:06] ---| ---> BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has joined #code4lib [08:58:07] naomi | people_older_than_i_am++ [08:58:09] mjg_ | royt++ # So old the hills ask him for advice. [08:58:18] anarchivist | mjg_++ [08:58:20] BigD | geezers [08:58:21] BLTnoTomato | mrdys-, yep yep i was [08:58:27] anarchivist | BigD++ [08:58:29] fak3r | JodiS: really? sorry, we met at the pre-con - I need to have fak3r on my nametag. will try to introduce today [08:58:30] abarrera | royt++ # so old he cataloged cave writings [08:58:35] JodiS | fak3r: cool, thanks [08:58:38] royt | mjg_: then the hills are stupid [08:58:43] anarchivist | abarrera++ [08:58:43] MrDys | BLTnoTomato: anything I could try to answer for ya? [08:58:46] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d96c918bac94cf09] has joined #code4lib [08:58:52] akorphan | leather_vest++ [08:58:54] mjg_ | too bad they're not giving away books to dumbtimers. [08:58:59] ejk | oldfirsttimers++ [08:58:59] naomi | MrDys: what is the meaning of life? [08:59:03] BLTnoTomato | mtdys, i'm good atm, but thank you [08:59:03] MrDys | mjg_: you bitter timer [08:59:04] royt | aberrera: right, and i used MARC to do it too [08:59:05] mbklein | mornotimers [08:59:12] naomi | bacontimers [08:59:16] mjg_ | edsu has woken up giggling. [08:59:24] akorphan | pseudo_random-- [08:59:25] anarchivist | mjg_++ [08:59:26] * BLTnoTomato has always wondered what the ultimate question would be for the ultimate answer of 42 [08:59:30] ecorrado | we need bacon at breakfast next year [08:59:33] mbklein | Someone hack into Birkin's laptop and take over his /dev/random [08:59:36] akorphan | bacon++ [08:59:38] fak3r | won yesterday? just like post...the fix is in [08:59:40] ---| ---> cazzerson [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-04534886ea99a4bf] has joined #code4lib [08:59:44] fak3r | books+_ [08:59:45] anarchivist | I NEED A NEW ENTROPY SOURCE [08:59:46] dlovins | edsu++ [08:59:55] JodiS | somebody hack up a random w/o replacement, seeded, @ call to zoia [08:59:55] fak3r | books are heavy, it's all on PDF these days ;) [08:59:57] mbklein | Is this where Ross lives? [09:00:00] BigD | ecorrado: and lunch, and dinner, and second breakfast, and snack, and snackscnack, and dessert, and... [09:00:00] rjw | bacon_at_breakfast++ [09:00:01] JodiS | books++ [09:00:03] JodiS | edsu++ [09:00:06] anarchivist | ROSS DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE [09:00:08] JodiS | python_mag++ [09:00:12] JodiS | lbjay++ [09:00:12] akorphan | JodiS++ [09:00:14] mbklein | anarchivist++ [09:00:26] ecorrado | bacon_dessert++ [09:00:31] kgs | I am going to the airport as soon as c4l is done to pick up a rental (which I"m returning tomorrow -- doing a day trip). Would love to share a cab as a 2nd or 3rd passenger... and I have no luggage! [09:00:36] mbklein | happy_icons++ [09:00:38] anarchivist | candied_bacon++ [09:00:38] naomi | anarchivist-- # all caps [09:00:39] MrDys | lbjay++ [09:00:40] JodiS | fak3r: can I have an 8.5 x 11 screenreader? [09:00:43] rsinger | i live in a van [09:00:44] fak3r | hug the semantic web [09:00:44] akorphan | indifferent_icons+- [09:00:51] rsinger | down by the river [09:00:53] BLTnoTomato | does anyone know of a php script that will spider a site and return a navigation tree? [09:01:02] mbklein | naomi: When anarchivist types in all caps, he's not anarchivist. He's the Anti-Ross [09:01:04] naomi | ambivalence+- [09:01:04] dlovins | lbjay++ [09:01:05] anarchivist | naomi: don't blame me, blame rsinger [09:01:08] * mjg_ sweetly embraces the semantic web [09:01:10] escowles | kgs: i need to go to the airport then, too [09:01:15] naomi | anarchivist++ [09:01:21] rsinger | i bring on yelling [09:01:23] anarchivist | i'm "BAD ROSS" [09:01:23] ---| ---> dsuchy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2c9d8255f056867b] has joined #code4lib [09:01:32] anarchivist | iand++ [09:01:32] abarrera | mjg_: the semantic web is suing you for harrassment [09:01:32] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-781672507fc0e513] has joined #code4lib [09:01:37] lbjay | no takers on the python mag still :( [09:01:42] shekhar | BLTnoTomato: try wget [09:01:43] fak3r | jingle jangle [09:01:45] BillDueber | naomi: You can tell the difference because BAD ROSS has a goatee. [09:01:45] fak3r | ross mention [09:01:47] royt | who separated rsinger and anarchivist at birth? [09:01:47] kgs | escowles that would be very cool [09:01:47] mjg_ | lbjay++ # for hooking that up [09:01:48] anarchivist | lbjay: i'd take it [09:01:51] JodiS | rsinger++ [09:01:53] ---| ---> gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-349340248efa49d4] has joined #code4lib [09:01:55] anarchivist | royt: OCLC [09:01:55] lbjay | anarchivist: you may just get one [09:01:57] MrDys | I got shoes that jingle jangle jingle [09:02:04] * edc_mibbit will take python mag if I win, although the shell scripting books look nice [09:02:04] rsinger | FREEDOM [09:02:05] ---| ---> jrochkind104 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c49e74784e001326] has joined #code4lib [09:02:05] MrDys | s/shoes/spurs [09:02:08] dlovins | data_silos-- [09:02:14] naomi | british_accents++ [09:02:16] BigD | i'm that way with the wife. back in the box! [09:02:17] rsinger | my face is painted blue right now [09:02:17] fak3r | mjg_: still want to meet, or at least email, iand [09:02:18] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0aae91650be3d208] has joined #code4lib [09:02:20] * royt looks for the 996 on the sole of anarchivist's foot [09:02:21] fak3r | accents++ [09:02:21] jwn | @sin police love someone [09:02:22] zoia | jwn: Hmmmm!! [09:02:23] escowles | kgs: shall we meet in the lobby right after then? i need to pickup my bag [09:02:25] kgs | we could meet 12:15 in the lobby [09:02:25] rsinger | wearing only a fur loincloth [09:02:26] dlovins | @karma data_silos [09:02:26] zoia | dlovins: Karma for "data_silos" has been increased 0 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -4. [09:02:28] JodiS | lbjay: that's cause you got half of us a python mag subscription already! [09:02:32] mbklein | abarrera: You mean <#servesNoticeTo> [09:02:33] mjg_ | CAPS LOCK IS OFTEN AN INDICATOR OF DRUNKENNESS. [09:02:33] jwn | @sing police love someone [09:02:35] zoia | jwn: No songs found by police love someone [09:02:39] JodiS | "it hurts the business to do jangle" [09:02:47] naomi | mfg_: not hangovers? [09:02:48] kgs | perfectamundo -- I need to unload my taping equipment [09:02:54] royt | rsinger is hurting the business [09:02:55] naomi | mfg_ --> mtg_ [09:02:58] BigD | CAPS hurt hangovers [09:03:03] naomi | mtg_ -> mjg_ [09:03:03] rsinger | what he really means is "it hurts our business to employ ross" [09:03:04] BillDueber | @sing sting : set them free [09:03:06] zoia | BillDueber: No lyrics for set them free by sting. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:03:07] ---| ---> gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:03:07] zoia | ΓΘλΞ [09:03:11] anarchivist | HOME TAGGING IS KILLING MARC [09:03:12] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:03:12] mbklein | naomi: There it is. :) [09:03:16] BLTnoTomato | shekhar, is there a php script called wget or are you referring to the *nix command wget? [09:03:18] mjg_ | naomi: basically! [09:03:18] BigD | mjg_ -> dumbass [09:03:19] fak3r | `mv cave /usr/local/backup` [09:03:20] edc_mibbit | cave4lib++ [09:03:22] jwn | @sing police : love someone [09:03:23] zoia | jwn: No lyrics for love someone by police. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:03:25] kgs | home tagging? [09:03:30] ---| ---> reeset [i=46a41925@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5dce66055ec3889f] has joined #code4lib [09:03:30] mbklein | @stfu Angry Ross [09:03:31] ---| ---> mib_w5jbygqg [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c9fe828ca8bd49e3] has joined #code4lib [09:03:31] zoia | mbklein: What This World Needs Is A Facebook App To Organize Facebook Apps (and Groups) ! [09:03:31] naomi | dang wrist braces cause more typos [09:03:32] ---| ---> chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-17.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:03:45] * mbklein makes a mental note to write @stfu [09:03:45] BigD | naomi: home arrest? [09:03:47] MrDys | communicating van gogh stylee [09:03:48] rsinger | cave.rb [09:03:50] akorphan | WORM memory is as old as the caves I guess. [09:03:50] fak3r | cave painting: I saw a horse, here's what it looked like [09:03:57] naomi | BigD++ [09:04:06] shekhar | BLTnoTomato: *nix [09:04:07] fak3r | ./paint -r -O cave_wall [09:04:10] mjg_ | fak3r: yeah, re: iand; I may just e-mail/irc him. [09:04:11] naomi | (except they'd be ankle bracelets [09:04:13] BigD | naomi: not that i'd know anyhting about that [09:04:15] ---| ---> asnagy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-93b9537e4fefd87e] has joined #code4lib [09:04:19] mbklein | I agree with everything except the stuff I don't agree with. [09:04:23] ---| ---> cliff [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:04:23] ---| ---> cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cef48380f69664ee] has joined #code4lib [09:04:24] BigD | naomi: i type with my feet [09:04:27] naomi | BigD: not that there' [09:04:31] naomi | s anything wrong w that ... [09:04:33] ---| ---> jstirnaman [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e1139f539cb6e94] has joined #code4lib [09:04:34] BigD | justifies the lack of pants [09:04:37] kgs | escowles do you have distinguishing characteristics? (I am short, female, and over 50) [09:04:38] fak3r | mjg_: good, I started some bittorrent idea site, but no one was interested, no traction [09:04:40] akorphan | INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE! [09:04:44] mbklein | BigD: No, no it doesn't. [09:04:46] akorphan | BORN FREE! FREE AS THE WIND BLOWS! [09:04:46] mjg_ | MrDys: a preference to encode language in lopped-off ears [09:04:51] fak3r | mjg_: so I haven't proved it fails yet :0 [09:04:54] BigD | kgs: escowles is sitting next to me [09:04:57] lbjay | i need a photo from one of the NYC code4libs [09:04:57] mbklein | INFORMATION WANTS TO BE ANTHROPOMORPHIZED! [09:05:00] BillDueber | kgs: You're not short! You're...just...er....yeah, ok, you're short. [09:05:09] escowles | kgs: i'm 5'6", wearing a black tee shirt, redish hair [09:05:12] naomi | kgs: "vertically challenged" [09:05:12] * edc_mibbit not sure that information wants to be free is an universal value [09:05:12] anarchivist | "Died in asylum" [09:05:14] gsf | akorphan, mbklein: you have too much energy at this time [09:05:15] fak3r | I like the slides [09:05:16] mjg_ | kgs++ [09:05:16] BigD | kgs: look to yer right more [09:05:20] anarchivist | gsf++ [09:05:22] royt | INFORMATION WANTS TO BE LEFT ALONE [09:05:30] kgs | hah got yer 20 [09:05:30] JodiS | Web not free. [09:05:35] fak3r | kgs: I'm 5'10'' [09:05:35] edc_mibbit | information wants to be put into solr [09:05:37] akorphan | caps lock doesn't take that much energy [09:05:40] MrDys | @sing alice deejay : better off alone [09:05:40] mbklein | INFORMATION WANTS TO BE OWNED BY OCLC [09:05:43] zoia | Do you think you're better off alone? / Do you think you're better off alone? / Do you think you're better off alone? / Do you think you're better off alone? [09:05:45] akorphan | it's much easier to fake having energy when you don't -actually- have to shout. [09:05:47] rsinger | INFORMATION SAYS, 'GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN' [09:05:47] ---| ---> rosy1280 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1ddcc269cdc43a63] has joined #code4lib [09:05:47] mjg_ | I also have a height. [09:05:47] kgs | we just analog-foafed [09:05:52] JodiS | edc_mibbit: information wants to be free, and information wants to be expensive. Everyone forgets that. [09:05:53] jaf | diffiulty in reproduction..I think there are pills for that [09:05:55] escowles | information doesn't want to be anthropomorphized [09:05:55] edc_mibbit | mbklein: you forgot your 996 [09:05:57] gsf | foaid: friend of an ian davis [09:05:57] anarchivist | rsinger: s/INFORMATION/ROYT [09:06:02] naomi | "metadata wants to be free" - Diane Hillmann [09:06:11] anarchivist | chump_of_a_drunk++ [09:06:15] fak3r | good slides, but I'm craving bullet points [09:06:16] royt | GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN [09:06:19] ---| ---> mib_y2adu1y3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fc99f31d7075d9d4] has joined #code4lib [09:06:21] akorphan | @sing john barry : born free [09:06:22] mbklein | I thought the Internet was a truck. [09:06:23] MrDys | @sing baz luhrman : everybody's free [09:06:24] zoia | akorphan: No lyrics for born free by john barry. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:06:26] rsinger | royt++ [09:06:26] zoia | MrDys: No lyrics for everybody's free by baz luhrman. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:06:27] ---| ---> v_a [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3866519892190d56] has joined #code4lib [09:06:33] rsinger | GET OFF MY DAMN TREEHOUSE [09:06:38] fak3r | bah, forgot to plug my mouse into the world today [09:06:40] naomi | mbklein: a book truck [09:06:43] JodiS | anarchivist: have you been to any of these nyc meetups? [09:06:43] mbklein | Most *and* least. [09:06:44] akorphan | @sing andy williams : born free [09:06:45] ---| <<-- mib_y2adu1y3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fc99f31d7075d9d4] has quit (Client Quit) [09:06:45] anarchivist | @dunno search puppies [09:06:45] zoia | Oscar-winning title song from the 1966 film, Barry also won for soundtrack / Charted in 1966 at # 7 by Roger Williams and # 35 by Matt Monro / Soul version by the Hesitations hit #38 in 1968 / Born free, as free as the wind blows [09:06:46] kgs | more than the book? [09:06:47] zoia | anarchivist: 1 found: #150: "why don't you ask royt to read to you about..." [09:06:50] fak3r | earth: mostly harmless [09:06:52] JodiS | mouse, meet world. world, meet mouse [09:06:52] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7fe7082dc9d98cae] has joined #code4lib [09:06:54] anarchivist | JodiS: which ones, the c4l ones? [09:06:57] anarchivist | @quote get 150 [09:06:58] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #150: "< panizzi> ruby is a hint to migrate planet code4lib to Angola!" (added by edsu at 04:13 PM, January 27, 2006) [09:07:02] epoz | Do you know you've arrived when you Reply-to-Keynote in stead of reply-to-Tweet? [09:07:09] JodiS anarchivist: yeah, c4l nyc meetup. lbjay needs photos. can you hook him up? [09:07:11] jwn | @sing police : if you love somebody [09:07:12] BillDueber | @sing Bread : Mother Freedom [09:07:14] zoia | jwn: No lyrics for if you love somebody by police. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:07:15] zoia | Callin' some friend and callin' some brother / Hey tomorrow / You're not so far away / Mother freedom [09:07:18] fak3r | web ftw [09:07:19] BigD | pr0n [09:07:26] JodiS | epoz: reply_to_keynote++ [09:07:29] jbrinley | BigD: there you have it [09:07:31] mib_w5jbygqg | bigD is right [09:07:32] ejk | BigD++ [09:07:33] ---| ---> gnewton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-43a1b9cfab3f3c0d] has joined #code4lib [09:07:35] anarchivist | JodiS: maybe ask abarrera, paulalbert, joanna dipasquale, or kevin reiss [09:07:37] naomi | if I weren't so lazy, we could have c4l california [09:07:37] jwn | @sing the police : if you love somebody [09:07:38] fak3r | a href = some link [09:07:40] zoia | jwn: No lyrics for if you love somebody by the police. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:07:41] BigD | thankyouandgoodnight! [09:07:41] BillDueber | @sing Sting : If you love someone set them free [09:07:43] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [09:07:43] zoia | BillDueber: No lyrics for If you love someone set them free by Sting. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:07:45] escowles | @karma BigD [09:07:45] royt | printing on paper is the most successful information system ever devised [09:07:45] zoia | escowles: Karma for "BigD" has been increased 129 times and decreased 16 times for a total karma of 113. [09:07:46] abarrera | BigD++ # just from you [09:07:49] anarchivist | JodiS: i don't have any [09:07:56] mbklein | If you increase the availability of useful information by 1,000,000,000,000 times, but increase the availability of useless, harmful, and time-wasting crapola by 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times, is that a success? [09:07:56] fak3r | stl4lib [09:08:02] mib_w5jbygqg | p0rn and lolcats too [09:08:05] abarrera | JodiS: i have none [09:08:06] dlovins | BigD++ [09:08:07] mjg_ | It vaguely smells like IPA around here. [09:08:10] mjg_ | ... ROSS [09:08:12] fak3r | mbklein: big win predicted? [09:08:19] JodiS paulalbert, joanna dipasquale, or kevin reiss: got an nyc code4lib meetup photo for lbjay to use? [09:08:21] rsinger | ...IS KILLING TALIS [09:08:22] edsu | mjg_: that would be me [09:08:23] BillDueber | mbklein: It depends on how good your search algorithms are. [09:08:25] edc_mibbit | JodiS: i don't remember all of the details, but i sawa a great presentation about indigenous people of Australia and South America and the idea of sharing information with everyone was not accepted [09:08:28] royt | rsinger is sweating IPA [09:08:30] ---| ---> mikeybe [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77a080bc4c2c8ce1] has joined #code4lib [09:08:32] akorphan | mjg_: Smells more like API to me [09:08:36] abarrera | JodiS: 0-4, os unless paul has some [09:08:39] MrDys | rsinger smells smart [09:08:40] JodiS | network_effect++ [09:08:46] dlovins | Web = giant vanity press? [09:08:48] fak3r | vote austin! oh [09:08:49] mjg_ | IPA > API [09:08:52] rsinger | morning after beer smells smart? [09:08:52] harmless | ipa has an intuitive api [09:08:53] lbjay | JodiS: thanks [09:08:54] royt | there's nothing like the smell of API in the morning [09:09:00] anarchivist | OPEN IPAS [09:09:03] JodiS | lbjay: thank me when you get somewhere :) [09:09:04] jaf | semantic web conference just announced for Sept 8-11 in Trento, Italy [09:09:07] lbjay | i am failing to find anything via the googles or flickr [09:09:11] harmless | anarchivist++ [09:09:11] JodiS | edc_mibbit: Australia has lots of disclaimers re: photos of the deceased [09:09:12] akorphan | critical_point++ [09:09:22] naomi | anarchivist: pony tail, red shit, 17" monitor? [09:09:29] abarrera | lbjay: i don't remember anyone having a camera [09:09:29] mbklein | Open Source Beer: http://www.opensourcebeerproject.com/ [09:09:31] royt | jaf: all of a sudden i'm a huge fan of the semantic web [09:09:32] anarchivist | naomi: me? no [09:09:32] rsinger | red_shit-- [09:09:33] JodiS | lbjay: what's your timeframe? for lightning talk? or sooner? [09:09:34] fak3r | walled garden: fail [09:09:42] BigD | naomi: where from california art thou? [09:09:45] ---| ---> agd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b5ac9c7cf5962a08] has joined #code4lib [09:09:46] * anarchivist is a wallflower [09:09:46] jaf | anarchivist: wait, that's me [09:09:51] rsinger | i could deal with that garden, really [09:09:58] naomi | BigD: I work for Stanford; I live in Menlo Park. [09:09:58] akorphan | I think IanD is mixing his metaphors. [09:10:06] * mjg_ tosses a molotov into the walled garden [09:10:07] JodiS | anarchivist:wallflower:: __________:____________ [09:10:07] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0f7b61b380b6f1bb] has joined #code4lib [09:10:19] * MrDys starts beat juggling metaphors [09:10:23] kgs | menlo_park++ # misses norcal [09:10:24] jtgorman | doh!, forgot to post my cartoon for #code4lib...will have to do when I get home [09:10:29] naomi | I would publish in arXiv.org [09:10:31] * jtgorman has too many things to do when he gets home [09:10:37] JodiS | naomi++ [09:10:38] BigD | naomi: i'm at UCSD [09:10:46] anarchivist | lbjay: ask abarrera to ask jdipasquale, who is sitting right next to him [09:10:53] JodiS | naomi: do you follow the DL feed from arXiv? [09:11:08] naomi | JodiS: no, but I'm friends with Simeon Warner. [09:11:15] anarchivist | lbjay: she's not in IRC [09:11:17] mbklein | anarchivist: ask anarchivist to ask abarrera to ask... oh screw it. [09:11:22] * lbjay wonders what color MrDys's ocean would be [09:11:24] BigD | naomi: i may have just met you on the elevator [09:11:25] fak3r | more metaphors [09:11:26] gsf | that is not an ocean [09:11:29] JodiS abarerra: can you see if jdipasquale can hook up lbjay with an NYC code4lib meetup photo? [09:11:30] jaf | JodiS: Me too, just met with him the other day [09:11:32] MrDys | lbjay: the color of THE SOUL [09:11:33] lbjay | JodiS: LT [09:11:34] anarchivist | @dunno get 150 [09:11:34] naomi | BigD: yes, I think so. [09:11:34] zoia | anarchivist: Dunno #150: "why don't you ask royt to read to you about puppies instead? http://icanhaz.com/puppies" (added by anarchivist at 09:21 PM, August 15, 2008) [09:11:36] fak3r | big blue computer, not ocean [09:11:40] ---| ---> charper [n=charper@HARPER.BOBST.NYU.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:11:42] royt | red ocean? blue ocean? huh? [09:11:42] rsinger | well, talis is more blue pool material [09:11:43] JodiS | lbjay; ok :) [09:11:43] abarrera | lbjay: already did, her and kevin both said no [09:11:44] lbjay | JodiS: i'll find them at the break [09:11:46] * jtgorman is Sir Not Appearing At This Conference [09:11:49] mjg_ | the color of MrDys's ocean may only be detected by taste and touch. [09:11:51] fak3r | netbook [09:11:53] jwn | red fish, blue fish [09:11:57] lbjay | abarrera: k.o. thanks [09:12:08] ---| ---> scotchko [i=46a41962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d78ec60e462c75e3] has joined #code4lib [09:12:08] MrDys | the synaesthetic ocean [09:12:12] ejk | @rate RedOcean BlueOcean [09:12:14] fak3r | code4lib [09:12:17] zoia | ejk: RedOcean: ?; BlueOcean: 3.3. BlueOcean sucks! [09:12:20] naomi | mjg_: the color of MrDys's ocean is psychedelic [09:12:26] BillDueber | And the auto industry won't exist again in about three days [09:12:31] mbklein | @rate red_ocean blue_ocean [09:12:31] BigD | red ocean = sharks? [09:12:32] fak3r | BillDueber:++ [09:12:35] zoia | mbklein: red ocean: 10.0; blue ocean: 9.5. red ocean rocks! [09:12:35] fak3r | bikes ftw [09:12:39] rsinger | @decide blue ocean or billy ocean [09:12:39] zoia | rsinger: go with billy ocean [09:12:40] rosy1280 | BillDueber++ [09:12:41] scotchko | funny cause the Semantic Web is a red ocean like anything else :) [09:12:42] mbklein | @rate api ipa [09:12:42] akorphan | @rate AutoIndustry ITIndustry [09:12:44] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-58c61e1a03588cb5] has joined #code4lib [09:12:46] zoia | mbklein: api: 7.3; ipa: 8.6. ipa rocks! [09:12:48] fak3r | irc [09:12:49] zoia | akorphan: AutoIndustry: ?; ITIndustry: ?. [09:12:54] timmcgeary | maybe just "US" car companies... [09:12:54] akorphan | Oh well. [09:13:01] BillDueber | michigan-- rhode_island-- # tied for highest unemployment in the US [09:13:02] akorphan | @rate toyota ford [09:13:03] mbklein | @rate anarchivist rsinger [09:13:03] zoia | akorphan: toyota: 8.5; ford: 7.5. toyota rocks! [09:13:05] zoia | mbklein: anarchivist: ?; rsinger: 10.0. rsinger rocks! [09:13:09] rsinger | zoia: get out of my dreams, and into my car [09:13:09] zoia | rsinger: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Praise, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". [09:13:10] fak3r | 'free online poker' [09:13:14] kgs | i'm having trouble with the syllogism [09:13:14] mjg_ | also good for linking documents together: chains [09:13:15] mbklein | anarchivist: oooh...burn.... [09:13:15] JodiS | naomi, jaf: cool :) arXiv DL feed has interesting stuff, sometimes worth connecting up with code4lib IMO [09:13:15] anarchivist | rsinger++ [09:13:17] jwn | unlinked documents UNITE! [09:13:19] JodiS | "only connect" [09:13:24] anarchivist | mbklein: "undefined" [09:13:29] anarchivist | rsinger: WAIT FOR IT [09:13:30] timmcgeary | online_poker++ [09:13:30] JodiS | mjg: chaingangs? [09:13:31] anarchivist | rsinger: WAIT FOR IT [09:13:31] fak3r | we need another transformers picture here [09:13:32] mouwd | actually some of the non-us car companies had bigger decreases in sales this past year [09:13:35] ejk | @rate underscores Camelcase [09:13:39] akorphan | Dudes on the right have no friends. [09:13:39] zoia | ejk: underscores: 2.6; Camelcase: 1.6. Camelcase sucks! [09:13:41] gsf | mjg_: handcuffs [09:13:48] timmcgeary | JodiS: add all-night poker to your conference list for next year [09:13:48] JodiS | kgs: syllogism? [09:13:49] akorphan | I feel bad for Barry A. Dobyns. [09:13:51] * BillDueber has seen that image about 90 times, and it remains a ridiculously bad way to try to visualize pretty much anything. [09:13:56] fak3r | linky love [09:13:57] * mbklein waits for anarchivist to go put up an "anarchivist rocks rsinger sucks anarchivist rocks rsinger sucks anarchivist rocks rsinger sucks anarchivist rocks rsinger sucks" just to change the ratings [09:14:02] BigD | my inbox looks like that slide [09:14:04] * jtgorman wonders what image it is [09:14:04] ---| <<-- dsuchy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2c9d8255f056867b] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:14:06] JodiS | timmcgeary: heard and written down :) [09:14:06] * mjg_ invents bookcuffs and sells them to roy [09:14:13] anarchivist | timmcgeary: someone else was talking about getting a poker room together for next year [09:14:14] naomi | so ... what did happen in whatever room last night? I heard it was a late night. [09:14:15] BigD | poker_at_c4l++ [09:14:20] anarchivist | i think it was BigD and charper [09:14:24] kgs | there's a presumed logical argument I'm missing but then again last night's beer was good [09:14:24] akorphan | I think he means, "would change fundamentally if it worked" [09:14:26] BillDueber | Left side of the room is "anarchivist rocks"; right side is "rsinger sucks" [09:14:30] jwn | ... changes ... connected...? [09:14:30] anarchivist | naomi: youtube videos [09:14:30] rsinger | you know... whtever [09:14:31] fak3r | semantic web changed...the name of this talk [09:14:34] mib_w5jbygqg | poker++ [09:14:35] mikeybe | i wonder if it has changed us for the better [09:14:37] naomi | and how was werewolf? [09:14:38] timmcgeary | anarchivist: that's great! I'd love some Hold 'Em [09:14:40] JodiS | @rocks anarchivist rsinger [09:14:41] timmcgeary | poker++ [09:14:41] bess | naomi: I got a great tutorial on RDF and chatbots [09:14:41] zoia | JodiS: Is that some kind of lame attempt at witty banter? Whatevs. [09:14:47] JodiS | @sucks anarchivist rsinger [09:14:49] zoia | JodiS: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/11/14/lai.gas.ghost.woio [09:14:49] bess | naomi: and werewolf was fantastic. I'm hooked. [09:14:54] JodiS | @rockssucs anarchivist rsinger [09:14:54] naomi | bess++ [09:14:54] zoia | JodiS: let me just look that up in the big red books, just a sec [09:14:57] JodiS | JodiS-- [09:15:02] JodiS | JodiS-- [09:15:05] JodiS | @rockssucks anarchivist rsinger [09:15:07] zoia | JodiS: rake gerbils:deploy [09:15:08] naomi | zoia: I have a big red (mac)book [09:15:10] zoia | naomi: CRAMBONE [09:15:11] mbklein | Next year's 3-camera setup: One on the speaker, one with a direct feed from the projector, and one connected to #code4lib [09:15:15] anarchivist | sucksrocks [09:15:16] mbklein | All time-syncd [09:15:16] scotchko | What? The Semantic Web has already changed? I has not even started yet, right? [09:15:21] akorphan | K9++ [09:15:23] jwn | raw data = information sushi [09:15:28] anarchivist | scotchko-- [09:15:31] mikeybe | Why I am not going to by a computer- Wendell Berry (food for thought): http://home.btconnect.com/tipiglen/berrynot.html [09:15:31] JodiS | mbklein: that would be hilarious--though I'm not sure I want this IRC feed on the web :) [09:15:33] mbklein | JodiS: @rate is the sucks-rocks interface [09:15:35] fak3r | ibm came up with the semantic web first, right? [09:15:37] JodiS | mbklein++ [09:15:46] naomi | semant w ... it's not finished yet. [09:15:47] dlovins | jwn++ [09:15:49] ---| ---> eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc356932bb0e58ba] has joined #code4lib [09:15:49] kgs | mbklein we're doing a poor-person's version of the whole slide-syncing thing, I agree [09:15:49] akorphan | fake_K9_from_ducting_and_bike_reflectors+- [09:15:50] fak3r | its the webantics [09:15:51] scotchko | thanks anarchivist :) [09:15:55] kgs | not that i doesn't work [09:16:06] gsf | mbklein: and 2 or 3 roaming the room for audience closeups [09:16:06] kgs | s/i/it [09:16:10] mbklein | kgs: We do our best. :) [09:16:12] dlovins | data_silos-- [09:16:13] anarchivist | scotchko: http://arcanux.org/lambdacats/varbl.jpg [09:16:14] ---| <--- agd [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b5ac9c7cf5962a08] has left #code4lib () [09:16:16] fak3r | kgs: work, thanks for remdinding me [09:16:18] mjg_ | JodiS++ # I think you were nominated to become benevolent dictator last night. [09:16:20] edc_mibbit | @rate semantic_web web2.0 web [09:16:25] zoia | edc_mibbit: semantic web: 7.8; web2.0: 6.1; web: 7.7. semantic web rocks! [09:16:27] JodiS | mjg: crap [09:16:28] * JodiS hids [09:16:31] * JodiS hides [09:16:31] BigD | i'll put some thought into a poker room next year [09:16:33] ---| <<-- timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0f7b61b380b6f1bb] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:16:34] bess | wait... it is? I mean, I'm into rdf and everything, but is it really having an effect already? I sort of think of it as something that hasn't quite happened yet. [09:16:34] mbklein | gsf: All wobbly, nauseating handheld work directed by JJ Abrams? [09:16:34] cschx | I refute it thus [09:16:36] BillDueber | kgs: And one on the crowd of people outside that couldn't get tickets [09:16:38] anarchivist | JodiS++ [09:16:41] escowles | data++ [09:16:42] akorphan | conjecture 1: IanD has never worked at a bank. [09:16:45] naomi | JodiS is starting to type like me. [09:16:46] fak3r | big old computers in the back rule [09:16:52] kgs | bess concur [09:16:52] BigD | holdem tourney or dealers choice? [09:16:56] akorphan | as400_emulator-- [09:16:56] mbklein | zoia should do a keynote [09:16:57] zoia | mbklein: you can buy one of those from LITA [09:17:01] ---| <<-- jaf [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a5cb891fbc8cd261] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:17:03] BillDueber | bess++ # still waiting for the there to be there [09:17:06] anarchivist | http://arcanux.org/lambdacats/class.jpg [09:17:08] mib_w5jbygqg | holem tourney... cash gaem in loser's lounge [09:17:14] fak3r | bad languages evolve [09:17:14] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b5a752a5c77d0cc4] has joined #code4lib [09:17:18] naomi | bess: sm ... w # letters to be supplied as soon as it exists [09:17:26] bess | naomi++ [09:17:30] jrochkind104 | first time in history? [09:17:32] ---| ---> mib_3yqdrv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-17c2d9bf80d12901] has joined #code4lib [09:17:33] anarchivist | marc++ [09:17:34] jwn | automatic tape loaders are your friends [09:17:44] BigD | mib_w5jbygqg: cash holdem or dealer's choice (and set a /nick! :) ) [09:17:44] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aaa4b48a597eb699] has joined #code4lib [09:17:51] akorphan | self_sorting_punch_cards++ [09:17:56] naomi | bess: xcat # :-x [09:17:59] ---| User: *** mib_w5jbygqg is now known as crikey [09:18:06] royt | mbklein: panizzi already did [09:18:08] fak3r | "I for one welcome these room sized computers" [09:18:08] zoia | panizzi is dead. long live panizzi! [09:18:10] jwn | MARC PILOT= flying librarian [09:18:15] fak3r | tux++ [09:18:16] mjg_ | panizzi++ [09:18:19] mbklein | @ana semantic web [09:18:20] zoia | mbklein: Win best came [09:18:24] fak3r | watch what you say about open source [09:18:25] anarchivist | jwn++ [09:18:29] fak3r | when++ [09:18:29] anarchivist | @hussein semantic web [09:18:30] zoia | anarchivist: Win mushiest absence [09:18:30] naomi | stuffed_animals++ [09:18:39] bess | open_data++ [09:18:40] BigD | what OS is the moose? [09:18:41] gsf | do you hear it, proprietary software? the death nelly? [09:18:43] dlovins | taxidermy++ [09:18:45] akorphan | soggy_tux-- [09:18:46] fak3r | pics_of_stuffed_animals++ [09:18:50] jfereira | stuffed_bacon++ [09:18:52] * smkiewel needs a stuffed gnu for my desk [09:18:53] fak3r | un, free as in freedom [09:19:02] BigD | stuffed_WITH_bacon++ [09:19:02] akorphan | kittens++ [09:19:03] BillDueber | That's not a moose -- that's an Alf with horns [09:19:04] anarchivist | iand++ [09:19:06] naomi | bacon_stuffed_dead_animals++ [09:19:07] lbjay | gsf++ # death nelly [09:19:07] ---| ---> erikstattin [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-00355a7c72ba2b82] has joined #code4lib [09:19:08] fak3r | ...thanks to excel [09:19:09] anarchivist | BillDueber++ [09:19:14] * edc_mibbit not at all convinced open source will totally take over proprietary software [09:19:14] anarchivist | lbjay++ [09:19:22] fak3r | bullet points! [09:19:22] naomi | BillDueber++ [09:19:25] BigD | BillDueber: HA! [09:19:28] bess | really, this whole debate about open data drives me nuts in some ways. Open data == science. If your data isn't open then you are an alchemist. [09:19:32] akorphan | I think it depends on how you define structure. [09:19:39] akorphan | There are an awful lot of books.... [09:19:40] JodiS | bess: how do you preserve it [09:19:40] jwn | mahjong is structured data [09:19:42] BillDueber | He keeps using this word "structured." I do not think it means what he thinks it means. [09:19:43] wtd | bess++ [09:19:44] naomi | Conjecture 2.A: we can't figure out the structure of most of it. [09:19:48] mbklein | open_data++ # Someone should totally do a presentation on, say, an open, web-serviced-based, GIS infrastructure. [09:19:52] epoz | bess++ [09:19:56] BigD | bess: ever had a nonacademic job? [09:19:57] rosy1280 | BillDueber++ [09:19:57] crikey | complete sentences are structured too [09:19:58] JodiS | bess: bit-level preservation is not enough. we need to know how it was created, and why. and still have the utilities to interpret it [09:19:58] * anarchivist is soooooooooooo glad he is not at webwise [09:19:59] dlovins | alchemy-- [09:19:59] mbklein | bess++ [09:20:01] jwn | billdueber++ [09:20:03] bess | mbklein++ ;) [09:20:04] ---| <<-- eosisek [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc356932bb0e58ba] has quit (Client Quit) [09:20:06] akorphan | but structured data is the EASY part. [09:20:07] anarchivist | windows++ [09:20:08] fak3r | gimme noise! [09:20:09] rosy1280 | PrincessBride++ [09:20:10] jrochkind104 | those people are librarians, right? [09:20:10] naomi | bess: we need to know the structure or it's just noise. [09:20:13] gsf | fak3r: welcome to the larry lessig century [09:20:14] jrochkind104 | right? [09:20:14] escowles | are books structured? [09:20:22] edsu | akorphan: maybe he has worked in a bank :) [09:20:23] cschx | They Called For More Structure... [09:20:23] fak3r | yum [09:20:23] naomi | escowles: yes. [09:20:27] gsf | fak3r: no more bullets [09:20:30] jwn | jelly beans are structured data too [09:20:36] lbjay | mmm, jelly beans [09:20:44] rsinger | naomi: how are books more structured than 'data'? [09:20:46] jrochkind104 | I think the kind of 'structured' he's talking about really only applies to machine-readable data. [09:20:48] mbklein | JodiS: You just summed up my UVa job talk from last year. :) [09:20:50] anarchivist | @inatime they called for more structure, [pirate [zen]] [09:20:53] bess | JodiS: I don't think we're disagreeing with each other. I'm only saying that there is no reason for data not to be open. I also agree we need data preservation strategies. [09:20:53] zoia | Zen: There should be nothing unpleasant about nose-washing. [09:20:55] BillDueber | escowles: A little at a low level (chapters / paragraphs/etc). A *lot* (hopefully) at the "I'm telling a story / making an argument" level. [09:20:56] naomi | rsinger: I know how to parse them. [09:21:02] JodiS | bess: mouwd was saying: surprising that digital preservation/data preservation not covered at code4lib this year [09:21:03] jwn | i once had the misfortune of finding vomit flavored structured data [09:21:04] rsinger | naomi: oh? [09:21:08] anarchivist | oh, right [09:21:08] mbklein | JodiS: Except it took me 35 minutes to say it. [09:21:10] JodiS | bess: no, not disagreeing. just emphasizing! :) [09:21:14] anarchivist | like, you know what would be useful? [09:21:14] rsinger | naomi: i can hand you any book and you can parse it? [09:21:16] royt | jwn++ [09:21:17] fak3r | we need to unstructure this was [09:21:17] * mbklein wants jellybeans [09:21:20] BillDueber | I think he's confusing "structure" and "syntax with a tiny little bit of semantics on top" [09:21:26] fak3r | we need to unstructure this war [09:21:28] naomi | rsinger: sure. But give me raw data from a scientist ... and I probably won't know what the heck it is. [09:21:30] anarchivist | if worldcat.org showed a gmap of libraries holding a certain book [09:21:33] anarchivist | oh, wait [09:21:33] ejk | alas! earwax! [09:21:36] jfereira | No one expects the spanish inquisition [09:21:39] rosy1280 | mbklein where are the jellybeans? [09:21:42] naomi | rsinger: I mean I can parse it in RL> [09:21:43] fak3r | houses are so overpriced in RSS heights [09:21:47] bess | JodiS: we haven't had the GIS presentation yet. I hope Adam touches on it, but one of the reasons behind it is so we have a method for archiving GIS data at least. [09:21:54] mjg_ | that_graphic++ [09:22:00] timmcgeary | serendipity = frozen hot chocolate [09:22:01] jrochkind104 | To me, 'structured' just means that software can easily pull out individual elements ('facts') of interest. With 'of interest' being domain dependent of course. [09:22:03] anarchivist | bess++ [09:22:03] JodiS | bess: lots, lots, lots of business data, too. aside from science. (BigD, is that what you're alluding to?) [09:22:05] rsinger | naomi: so if i hand you book that's written completely in a non-latin based script -- don't tell you anything about it [09:22:05] fak3r | good schools in yaml, it's a bit far out though [09:22:06] mbklein | rosy1280: Unfortunately only on a slide on the screen. teasing_geeks-- [09:22:09] rsinger | naomi: what are you going to do? [09:22:13] fak3r | kids++ [09:22:26] BigD | JodiS: yep, and security/private data [09:22:28] anarchivist | digital_curation++ [09:22:29] mbklein | ejk++ [09:22:31] JodiS | jrochkind104: yeah, domain dependent. context REALLY impt. (social aspects of data preservation) [09:22:32] rosy1280 | mbklein haven't you noticed i'm all about the food...don't tease [09:22:36] naomi | rsinger: it probably is to be read linearly, may have a title page, a TOC, an index at the back. [09:22:36] mjg_ | My goal is to ruin people's lives by exposing as much of their information as possible. [09:22:40] fak3r | "..and the meek shall inherit the earth" (Rush, not the other guy) [09:22:42] JodiS | BigD: good point. that's a big deal! [09:22:48] rsinger | naomi: which end is the back? [09:22:51] anarchivist | mjg_: you're like the inverse CIA [09:22:52] mjg_ | and I'm starting with all of you. [09:22:55] * jtgorman tries to remember if he's on his first or second cup of tea [09:23:06] abarrera | mjg_: thank god you don't work for the government [09:23:07] anarchivist | oooh [09:23:09] abarrera | oh crap [09:23:09] lbjay | i'm gonna tear up [09:23:10] BillDueber | jtgorman: If you're not awake enough to remember, it's your first. [09:23:10] mjg_ | gsf: so, hey, what's this about pessimism? ... [09:23:12] gsf | anarchivist: not you [09:23:14] escowles | i don't think books are structured in the sense that the facts contained in them can be reused [09:23:14] naomi | rsinger: I can probably tell by page numbers and other pages mentioned. [09:23:17] mbklein | rosy1280: I wish I had picked up 3 or 4 more of those carrot-cake-cream-cheese things from yesterday's lunch. [09:23:18] JodiS | BigD: you're at UCSD, right? Still a lot going on there with data preservation, even without DICE, I'd bet... maybe you can drag somebody to code4lib10 to talk about data preservation? [09:23:26] rsinger | naomi: i guess my point it is -- i was looking for an arabic/english dictionary at the used book store a couple of weeks ago [09:23:28] naomi | rsinger: there are of course some books I can't figure out [09:23:31] anarchivist | Not Ross TM [09:23:34] edsu | need to use it, more than protect it imho [09:23:36] fak3r | fav example of structured data: usernames and passwords exposed on the web via a misplaced x-cel spreadsheet [09:23:39] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-29b029ad9f587928] has joined #code4lib [09:23:41] BigD | mjg_: just knowing you ruins my life [09:23:41] ---| ---> jphipps [i=root@packard.dreamhost.com] has joined #code4lib [09:23:43] rosy1280 | mbklein they were quite good but the frosting to cake ratio was off [09:23:48] rsinger | naomi: and i was in a section of books that [09:23:48] naomi | rsinger: but there is a TON of data I can't figure out that is missing sufficient metadata to be re-used. [09:23:50] anarchivist | JodiS: BigD was trying to convince bradw to give a talk on some stuff [09:23:50] jwn | something like a digital trojan? [09:23:50] epoz | movage over storage [09:23:54] mbklein | rosy1280: in which direction? [09:23:55] anarchivist | jwn-- [09:23:56] fak3r | lockss [09:23:57] JodiS | bess: cool, will be interested to see Adam's talk. haven't chatted him up yet... [09:23:58] rsinger | naomi: 1) i had no idea what language they were in [09:24:09] rsinger | naomi: 2) had no idea which side was the front [09:24:10] fak3r | aw nuts! [09:24:17] rosy1280 | mbklein too much frosting...but they may have just been mine [09:24:18] mbklein | ROSS DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR PETTY PROBLEMS [09:24:24] anarchivist | JodiS: http://chronopolis.sdsc.edu/ [09:24:24] BillDueber | So...he wants to feed squirrel? [09:24:25] gsf | mjg_: the potentially unhealthy pessimism characteristic demonstrated by certain corners of the code4lib community? [09:24:29] fak3r | squirrels++ [09:24:30] BigD | JodiS: i talk about data preservation :) [09:24:31] mbklein | anarchivist: Oh crap, now I'm doing it. [09:24:37] anarchivist | mbklein++ [09:24:39] timmcgeary | squirrels-- [09:24:51] timmcgeary | they dig up my yard [09:24:52] fak3r | tear down the walls, yo [09:24:53] escowles | squirrels-- # eat strawberries [09:24:56] anarchivist | the national archives of the uk are doing some really fucking cool shit [09:24:59] rsinger | moles-- [09:25:02] jwn | provide = acorn, enable = pecan [09:25:05] rsinger | my house is sinking [09:25:06] naomi | rsinger: but the key to how to figure it out didn't reside with one or two people in the world, as it often does with datasets. [09:25:07] fak3r | strawberries++ [09:25:14] dlovins | squirrels++ # inadvertantly plant oak trees [09:25:15] lbjay | @wordstats fuck [09:25:15] zoia | lbjay: Top 3 "fuck"ers (out of a total of 177 "fuck"s seen): edsu: 42, mjgiarlo: 29, and jrochkind: 29. You are ranked 4 out of 43 "fuck"ers with 17 "fuck"s. [09:25:17] fak3r | strawberry_jelly_beans-- [09:25:20] escowles | squirrels-- # daughter wants to use flamethrowers to keep them out of strawberries [09:25:23] rosy1280 | did anyone hear about how the national zoo release canadian squirrels into the wild of dc [09:25:23] * akorphan thinks about hypothetical ways to subvert LOCKSS [09:25:26] lbjay | 4th! [09:25:26] royt | dlovins++ [09:25:26] MrDys | popcorn_jelly_beans++ [09:25:31] * jtgorman had a sudden image of a sculpture that has the BSD Daemon, Tux, the Gnu fighting like crazy while Zippy walks away laughing with an armload of cash [09:25:32] BillDueber | They've frozen Han and all his letters in carbonite! [09:25:36] rsinger | naomi: i think it's the IPA that's arguing, not me [09:25:38] JodiS | BigD: you can't arm-wrestle bradw to the ground? try harder next year! [09:25:41] gsf | rsinger: you still live in that sinking house? [09:25:44] timmcgeary | jumping_waves++ [09:25:49] BigD | we'll get bradw to talk next year [09:25:51] mjg_ | gsf++ [09:25:56] anarchivist | ROSS DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE [09:25:57] royt | the meaning of these pictures is lost on me [09:25:58] fak3r | dietpoison? [09:25:59] rsinger | gsf: yeah -- damn moles [09:26:03] jfereira | code4lib_on_a_beach++ [09:26:03] JodiS | BigD: yeah, but when did we last hear your voice from the podium? [09:26:09] naomi | rsinger: no worries. I'm in favor of open, preserved data. I just don't think we have a good way to get adequate metadata, at this time. [09:26:12] BillDueber | unambiguous_rights++ [09:26:16] timmcgeary | rsinger: you need dynamite [09:26:20] crikey | they jumping out of water becaue of sharks? [09:26:28] akorphan | properly_expiring_copyrights++ [09:26:31] jfereira | red ocean [09:26:31] mbklein | crikey: with frickin' laser beams on their heads [09:26:32] fak3r | hot water, jump! [09:26:34] jtgorman | did BeOS have a mascot? [09:26:36] akorphan | sonny_bono-- [09:26:38] rsinger | timmcgeary: good idea [09:26:38] timmcgeary | rsinger: and then a good contractor to re-build your house [09:26:38] naomi | jelly_fish-- [09:26:40] escowles | shouldn't i have a pony? [09:26:43] fak3r | pirate bay keeps data free [09:26:48] dlovins | ++crikey [09:26:48] jwn | he must not use edison power [09:26:49] pmurray | @wordstats ++ [09:26:49] zoia | pmurray: Error: "++" doesn't look like a word I'm keeping stats on or a user in my database. [09:26:54] escowles | piratebay++ [09:26:54] fak3r | always there data++ [09:27:00] mbklein | jtgorman: Yeah, a picture of a guy switching back to OS X [09:27:02] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f5278dac10e2b928] has joined #code4lib [09:27:03] BigD | squirrels are evil. some of them. [09:27:03] ---| ---> highermath [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:27:03] ---| ---> TokeE [n=vircuser@ip-24-105.bnaa.dk] has joined #code4lib [09:27:03] JodiS | naomi: Jerry McDonough looks at preservation MOSTLY as a metadata issue [09:27:06] anarchivist | escowles: http://www.djangopony.com/ [09:27:11] BillDueber | rural_electrification++ [09:27:11] rosy1280 | black squirrels in washington dc http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/18/AR2005051802251.html [09:27:14] zoia | And don't get me started about metadata! [09:27:16] fak3r | beos++ [09:27:21] akorphan | rural_electrocution-- [09:27:26] BigD | JodiS: he keeps a lot of strength in his over-the-shoulder-sweater [09:27:28] pmurray | @wordstats [09:27:29] zoia | pmurray: I am currently keeping stats for 996, acid, ahh, anvil, ass, asshats, bacon, beer, bitchpants, blame, cock-up, coffee, craptastic, dude, duh, equifinality, fail, ferret, flocculat, font, frbr, freebase, fuck, gin, groan, hai, hangman, hate, heh, help, hussein, indeed, indifferent, java, journal, jrochkindian, librarial, lipstick, lol, love, mah, man, marc, metadata, mf, mock, morno, mornos, moron, motherfucker, murder, (1 more message) [09:27:38] pmurray | @wordstats add ++ [09:27:38] zoia | pmurray: Error: must not contain non-alphanumeric chars. [09:27:39] fak3r | beos was ahead of Mac/Win/Linux - years ahead [09:27:39] jrochkind104 | tribe friends? [09:27:46] anarchivist | @dunno search facebook [09:27:46] zoia | anarchivist: 2 found: #35: "What This World Needs Is A Facebook App To..." and #55: "http://lolthulhu.com/2007/10/23/my-facebook-..." [09:27:47] JodiS | privacy++ [09:27:48] pmurray | zoia: Bah! [09:27:49] zoia | pmurray: http://idisk.mac.com/michaelbklein/Public/Pictures/Skitch/lolroyt-20080702-144936.jpg [09:27:50] fak3r | FB slam! [09:27:51] gsf | better metadata through chemistry [09:27:57] anarchivist | @quote search facebook [09:27:58] royt | tribe.net, left it long ago [09:27:59] zoia | anarchivist: 1 found: #1285: " facebook is really surfing the wave of..." [09:28:00] JodiS | LOCKSS++ #talking about the economic issues of preservation [09:28:00] jwn | exponential_baloons++ [09:28:05] anarchivist | @quote get 1285 [09:28:06] zoia | anarchivist: Quote #1285: " facebook is really surfing the wave of computational creepiness" (added by ksclarke at 05:12 PM, March 26, 2008) [09:28:11] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0967d6c182367bac] has joined #code4lib [09:28:15] fak3r | slided the foaf [09:28:21] BigD | JodiS: i'm the man behind the man. behind the other man. (softball for abarrera) [09:28:28] JodiS | properly_expiring_copyrights++ [09:28:31] crikey | exponential growth of technology is reminiscent of Krtuzweil [09:28:42] fak3r | my_foaf.rdf (DJ Shadow remix '99) [09:28:44] timmcgeary | Kurtzweil++ [09:28:50] ---| ---> taco [n=taco@213-132-179-227.multikabel.nl] has joined #code4lib [09:28:51] rsinger | @ana computational creepiness [09:28:52] zoia | rsinger: Pretentious complaisance [09:28:54] fak3r | legal frameworks? overratted [09:29:01] BillDueber | legal frameworks change slowly for a lot of very good reasons [09:29:10] fak3r | overratted? yeah, that's what I meant, too many ratts. [09:29:12] crikey | in the future there will be robots [09:29:18] ---| Channel: JodiS changed the topic of #code4lib to: Today's schedule: http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/schedule [09:29:19] escowles | @sing ratt [09:29:22] zoia | That all is true / A diamond on the loose / We'll make your noose / Ratt madness [09:29:25] naomi | BillDueber: and some not very good reasons. [09:29:29] akorphan | IN THE GRIM FUTURE OF HELLO KITTY THERE IS ONLY WAR [09:29:35] JodiS | networks_of_trust++ [09:29:35] mbklein | @sing fergie : my foaf [09:29:36] fak3r | crikey: and howard johnson hotels in the sky [09:29:38] BillDueber | crikey: ...and everyone will wear silver bodysuits, and there will be a lot of chrome. [09:29:38] zoia | mbklein: No lyrics for my foaf by fergie. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [09:29:41] rosy1280 | i really love english accents [09:29:43] escowles | shouting-- [09:29:56] jwn | maybe we need a new executive order to change the intelectual property problem [09:30:02] gsf | @sing meatfoaf [09:30:03] zoia | gsf: No songs found by meatfoaf [09:30:04] jbrinley | @known iand [09:30:04] BillDueber | english_accent => intelligence += 40 [09:30:05] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know iand's URI [09:30:08] mjg_ | anarchivist: you type smart. [09:30:15] cschx | The little dead girl behind the rosebush has come back to life? [09:30:15] edsu | @quote add < akorphan> IN THE GRIM FUTURE OF HELLO KITTY THERE IS ONLY WAR [09:30:16] zoia | edsu: The operation succeeded. Quote #1764 added. [09:30:16] anarchivist | mjg_: twss [09:30:20] mbklein | rosy1280: English accents, jellybeans, and a lower frosting-to-cake ratio. Anything else we need to know? [09:30:21] ejk | BillDueber++ [09:30:22] fak3r | fazebook [09:30:23] pmurray | @knows pmurray [09:30:24] zoia | pmurray: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [09:30:25] JodiS | BigD++ # http://chronopolis.sdsc.edu/ [09:30:26] akorphan | edsu: I can't take credit for that one... [09:30:30] gsf | phasebook [09:30:32] pmurray | @know pmurray [09:30:32] zoia | pmurray: (know [] ) -- Associates the given URI with the given nick. If the nick already has a URI, it will be forgotten. Defaults to the calling user. [09:30:34] mjg_ | meatfoaf++ [09:30:34] mbklein | @foaf pmurray knows [09:30:36] zoia | mbklein: pmurray : "cwQaxxQq3397", , , , , , , , , , (1 more message) [09:30:36] fak3r | twitter comment: someone just mentioned twitter! [09:30:39] rosy1280 | mbklein australian accents [09:30:41] pmurray | mbklein++ [09:30:44] naomi | phaserbook [09:30:48] anarchivist | I AM SO TWEETING THIS [09:30:53] mbklein | @knows pmurray mbklein [09:30:54] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:30:59] jrochkind104 | give it away now, sez me. [09:31:00] pmurray | Whoops. [09:31:05] mbklein | @knows mbklein mjg_ [09:31:07] BigD | you took the words right out of my mouth / it must have been while you were kissing me [09:31:07] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:31:07] rosy1280 | they already have that [09:31:07] JodiS | jwn: negative economic impact (imputed at least) means copyright exec order is an unachieveable norm [09:31:09] akorphan | creepy-- [09:31:10] fak3r | @foaf fak3r depiction [09:31:11] zoia | fak3r: fak3r : [09:31:12] rosy1280 | does he know that [09:31:17] ---| ---> steambadger [i=18f9d204@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9bf72c9e2e568785] has joined #code4lib [09:31:23] BigD | ian's a stalker! [09:31:27] rosy1280 | google has a think where you can keep track of your friends [09:31:27] naomi | Sally Ann is actually a 50 year old man [09:31:34] akorphan | naomi++ [09:31:37] mjg_ | @knows Sally_Ann [09:31:38] zoia | mjg_: (knows ) -- Determines if the two given nicks know each other based on their registered FOAFs. [09:31:38] BigD | mpark: get that address? [09:31:41] dlovins | naomi++ [09:31:43] anarchivist | Sally Ann is actually BigD [09:31:43] rosy1280 | when someone tweets from their iphone you can know their exact lat and long [09:31:44] mbklein | @known pmurray [09:31:45] zoia | mbklein: pmurray's URI is [09:31:45] jrochkind104 | He looks good for 50. [09:31:46] ejk | googlestalk [09:31:49] royt | what?!? Information doesn't want to be free? [09:31:50] mbklein | @known mbklein [09:31:50] zoia | mbklein: mbklein's URI is [09:31:51] kat3 | http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/12/facebook-connec.html [09:31:55] mpark | BigD: got it! [09:31:57] fak3r | evolution++ [09:31:58] lbjay | closing? he's got 15 minutes left [09:32:01] mikeybe | scary picture [09:32:02] gsf | jrochkind104++ [09:32:03] BillDueber | @sing Carpenters : we've only just begun [09:32:05] zoia | We've only just begun to live / White lace and promises / A kiss for luck and we're on our way / We've only begun [09:32:06] escowles | devolution++ [09:32:07] smkiewel | graphic++ [09:32:12] crikey | evolution++ devolution+++++ [09:32:14] ---| ---> mib_cjtp9e98 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fe93749870010523] has joined #code4lib [09:32:14] anarchivist | mikeybe: made me improve my posture just now [09:32:17] gsf | lbjay: time to work [09:32:22] jrochkind104 | I want to be the guy in the middle. [09:32:23] akorphan | Sally Ann lives above Benefit St. Antiques. [09:32:32] jfereira | @sing devo [09:32:34] zoia | (instrumental) [09:32:35] naomi | break++ [09:32:36] kgs | jrochkind104 sure it's a guy? [09:32:37] steambadger | How far above? [09:32:49] BigD | RUMF? [09:32:51] crikey | is that guy holding a pool simmer? [09:32:51] escowles | @sing devo beautiful world [09:32:53] zoia | escowles: No songs found by devo beautiful world [09:32:57] jfereira | once again, no pants [09:32:58] ---| <<-- taco [n=taco@213-132-179-227.multikabel.nl] has quit (Client Quit) [09:32:59] fak3r | @sing devo : explosions [09:33:01] zoia | WE LIKE EXPLOSIONS THAT LEAVE YOU FEELING GOOD / WE LIKE IDEAS THAT CHANGE THE WORLD FOR GOOD / THERE'S NOTHING PAST THE STOP 'N' GO / THERE'S NOTHING BUT THE EBB AND FLOW [09:33:01] BillDueber | steambadger: lack_of_z_coordinates-- [09:33:06] mbklein | @knows pmurray mjg_ [09:33:07] zoia | mbklein: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:33:12] abarrera | no doubt that last guy is looking at pr0n [09:33:18] mikeybe | Question: is all of the human effort to create this information worth the output of links between them in the end? [09:33:18] rsinger | @dunno search PLATFORMS [09:33:19] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #303: "HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR?" [09:33:29] BigD | will you love me forever? [09:33:30] pmurray | @knows pmurray zoia [09:33:32] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:33:37] edsu | fak3r++ [09:33:38] pmurray | @knows mjg_ zoia [09:33:40] zoia | pmurray: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:33:40] BigD | jrochkind104: aw yeah [09:33:54] * BigD sets you all free [09:33:55] jbrinley | mikeybe: it is if we can automate the creation of much of that data [09:33:56] jrochkind104 | Anyone want to use my accordion? [09:34:05] akorphan | you getting this, camera guy? [09:34:07] BillDueber | jrochkind104: Is that a pickup line? [09:34:08] rsinger | jrochkind104: right now? [09:34:12] naomi | I'm setting anarchivist free. [09:34:12] * jbrinley needs to learn the accordion [09:34:12] pmurray | Perhaps there is something wrong with @knows [09:34:12] BigD | except abarrera and mjg [09:34:15] fak3r | change teh world [09:34:15] mjg_ | Two song titles in one keynote title. \m/ [09:34:19] fak3r | coffee the world [09:34:29] miker_ | Ian took the red pill [09:34:31] jbrinley | @knows zoia mjgiarlo [09:34:31] zoia | jbrinley: I don't know mjgiarlo's URI [09:34:38] jbrinley | @known mjg_ [09:34:38] zoia | jbrinley: mjg_'s URI is [09:34:39] mjg_ | ecorrado is just up there telling a story [09:34:41] JodiS | ecorrado++ [09:34:44] fak3r | is that iand? [09:34:49] jbrinley | @knows zoia mjg_ [09:34:51] zoia | jbrinley: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [09:35:01] fak3r | modern_people-- [09:35:03] naomi | "modern people"? [09:35:09] jbrinley | pmurray: clearly something wrong [09:35:12] mikeybe | good question [09:35:13] jrochkind104 | bah, i'm not buying it. [09:35:13] akorphan | @sing david bowie : modern love [09:35:16] zoia | I'm lying in the rain / But I never wave bye-bye / But I try, I try / Never gonna fall for (modern love) [09:35:17] anarchivist | @lolz [sing pulp : common people] [09:35:19] zoia | anarchivist: How I want a drink, alcoholic of course, after all those formulas involving tangent functions. [09:35:21] JodiS | fak3r: thanks, easier to parse than your twitter jpg [09:35:22] crikey | corrado's accent almost as exotic as Ian's [09:35:28] anarchivist | @sing pulp : common people [09:35:29] ---| ---> ccatalfo [n=fuzzy@ool-457ea945.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #code4lib [09:35:29] zoia | I said, "Well, in that case I'll have a rum and Coca-Cola" / She said, "Fine" / And then in thirty seconds' time, she said / "I want to live like common people [09:35:30] mjg_ | modern people == everyone but royt [09:35:31] rosy1280 | Google Latitude allows you to stalk your friends http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/02/locate-your-friends-in-real-time-with.html [09:35:32] BigD | crikey++ [09:35:33] fak3r | can't we just "liberate" these other cultures? (I'm joking) [09:35:40] ---| ---> kevin7kal [n=kevin7ka@300bd-210.tlt.psu.edu] has joined #code4lib [09:35:45] BillDueber | @sing america : lonely people [09:35:46] zoia | This is for all the lonely people / Thinking that life has passed them by / Don't give up until you drink from the silver cup / And ride that highway in the sky [09:35:50] mjg_ | fak3r++ # *snort* [09:35:55] rsinger | so primitive... fashioning crude tools in his treehouse [09:36:06] BillDueber | Step one: teach them all to speak American. [09:36:11] jrochkind104 | in any and every culture, those who can benefit by controlling the information want to do so. [09:36:12] fak3r | BillDueber: right! [09:36:20] JodiS | mikeybe: "Question: is all of the human effort to create this information worth the output of links between them in the end?" --interesting. The effort should be a byproduct of something else, IMO [09:36:24] fak3r | BillDueber: 2: open the box [09:36:27] ---| ---> dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has joined #code4lib [09:36:47] crikey | @sing leonard cohen : the future [09:36:49] zoia | and stuff it up the hole in your culture. / Give me back the Berlin Wall / give me Stalin and St Paul / I've seen the future, brother: it is murder. [09:36:53] dchud | movage [09:36:54] lbjay | JodiS: i'm also looking for a good pic of asheville [09:36:59] ---| <<-- gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-349340248efa49d4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:37:02] dchud | "moveage" ? [09:37:02] BigD | what's in the box? [09:37:19] JodiS | lbjay: besides the one at http://digital.library.appstate.edu/code4lib2010.html ? [09:37:37] pmurray | @host2010 [09:37:38] zoia | pmurray: RIGHTEOUS PAISLEY DEATH [09:37:41] lbjay | JodiS++ # didn't look there [09:37:43] pmurray | @hosts2010 [09:37:44] zoia | pmurray: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [09:37:50] ---| <<-- charper [n=charper@HARPER.BOBST.NYU.EDU] has quit ("Lost terminal") [09:37:50] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:37:50] ---| <<-- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:37:50] ---| <<-- wtd [n=buff@shell1.dm.egate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:37:50] ---| <<-- cliff [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:37:50] ---| <<-- emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c16 -- just do it.") [09:37:51] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:37:51] ---| <<-- jphipps [i=root@packard.dreamhost.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:37:51] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Broken pipe) [09:37:51] ---| <<-- calvinm_ [i=calvinm@fraser.sfu.ca] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:37:51] ---| <<-- TokeE [n=vircuser@ip-24-105.bnaa.dk] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [09:37:53] fak3r | we need to also look at sharing/exposing data over proxies or things like the tor network [09:37:54] ---| <<-- lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has quit ("Lost terminal") [09:37:57] jtgorman | wow [09:37:57] fak3r | vote austin! oh [09:38:04] pmurray | Ker-SLAM! [09:38:06] ---| ---> abarrera_ [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-115.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:38:06] fak3r | door slam! [09:38:09] ---| ---> rsinger_ [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-121.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:38:10] ---| <<-- BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-111.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:38:10] lbjay | lazy_web++ lazy_lbjay-- [09:38:11] escowles | @hosts2011 [09:38:12] zoia | escowles: Hicksville, Ohio [81]; Koopa, Colorado [56]; Panic, Pennsylvania [52]; Fifty-Six, Arkansas [8]; Hooker, Oklahoma [4] [09:38:13] mikeybe | I think putting information at the center of anthropological explanations needs to be justified...im not convinced that this is the central message of humanity (but I might be wrong) [09:38:13] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:38:19] akorphan | chocolate_fetish++ [09:38:21] fak3r | I didn't think that command would work ;) [09:38:24] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-102.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:38:27] akorphan | ow. [09:38:28] harmless | mikeybe: it's not about adding a bunch of information, more links, tags, whatnot. it's about leaving that option open to anyone who might happen to feel like doing it if they see value in it. [09:38:29] anarchivist | "like metamucil for your digital repository" [09:38:29] ---| ---> MrDys- [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-103.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:38:30] ---| <<-- ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:38:32] rsinger_ | bugger [09:38:42] ---| ---> BillDueber [n=dueberb@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:38:44] BigD | rsinger_ maybe later [09:38:54] ---| ---> birkin [n=birkin@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:39:04] ---| User: *** mjg_ is now known as mjg__ [09:39:04] lbjay | meamucil for your metacrap? [09:39:07] naomi | ibahn-- [09:39:09] ---| ---> highermath_ [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-123.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:39:09] lbjay | bah [09:39:11] BigD | birkin's back. everyone behave. [09:39:14] anarchivist | metamucil4metadata [09:39:20] ---| ---> donhamp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-85.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:39:23] fak3r | society-- [09:39:26] ---| ---> hdl [n=hdl@descartes.biblibre.com] has joined #code4lib [09:39:37] akorphan | man, all this data management would be so much easier if it weren't for all the damn society. [09:39:44] ---| ---> mjg_1 [n=mjg@wsip-70-164-25-89.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:39:48] ---| ---> chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:39:50] ---| User: *** mjg_1 is now known as mjg_ [09:39:50] BillDueber | reboot-- # who just went "Bong"? 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[09:40:52] pmurray | With all of these comings and goings, I may need to turn off the sound effects on my IRC client. [09:40:54] BigD | BillDueber: i'm still here. [09:40:55] naomi | incorrect_break_announcements++ [09:40:56] edsu | lbjay++ # keepin' it real [09:40:57] akorphan | wait, are we breaking or not? [09:40:59] royt | BillDueber++ [09:41:01] ---| ---> timmcgeary [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e5760cca8e74eba] has joined #code4lib [09:41:02] mbklein | BillDueber: Nah, you're back. :) [09:41:04] fak3r | @sign mudhoney : touch me I'm sick [09:41:06] zoia | fak3r: the grass really is greener on the other side &cough; &cough; &cough; [09:41:07] BigD | abarrera ghost [09:41:07] gsf | abarrera_: /msg nickserv ghost nick pass [09:41:07] royt | akorphan: only you [09:41:08] anarchivist | BREAK YOSELF [09:41:10] rsinger_ | chaos++ [09:41:11] BillDueber | BigD: You're only "raff". You're only halfway there. [09:41:14] fak3r | sign? [09:41:17] mjg_ | lbjay is workin for the weekend cuz goodness knows he's not workin now. [09:41:17] wickr | ibahn-- [09:41:18] timmcgeary | dead_air++ [09:41:20] ---| <<-- chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Client Quit) [09:41:21] fak3r | @sing mudhoney : touch me I'm sick [09:41:23] ---| <<-- abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-85.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) [09:41:23] zoia | I'm a creep yeah / I'm a jerk / Come on! / Touch Me I'm Sick! [09:41:25] lbjay | mjg_++ [09:41:31] ---| ---> codemonkey [i=46a4197c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-097d9f1729853885] has joined #code4lib [09:41:31] escowles | @karma ibahn [09:41:31] zoia | escowles: Karma for "ibahn" has been increased 1 time and decreased 29 times for a total karma of -28. [09:41:33] edsu | mjg_++ [09:41:33] abarrera_ | gsf++ thanks [09:41:36] ---| ---> cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has joined #code4lib [09:41:36] fak3r | simple, easy, to the point [09:41:38] ---| User: *** abarrera_ is now known as abarrera [09:41:46] akorphan | COME ON ENTROPY MACHINE [09:41:46] * mbklein just ran the first successful test of his Port 80 Pulse Destructor. Mwahahahahhaha! Mibbit is MINE! [09:41:48] pmurray | I'm breaking -- it is time for a Krispy Kreme doughnut. I don't know about the rest of y'all... [09:41:49] fak3r | screen rez [09:41:52] ---| ---> michaeldb [n=michaeld@CPE0012170da427-CM000a739b087e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #code4lib [09:41:54] ---| ---> dmer [i=46a41971@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-832b6bf3f91e916d] has joined #code4lib [09:41:54] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4194c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-610843d16e0ea240] has joined #code4lib [09:41:55] ---| ---> bjy [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1fa480d0c66b89ca] has joined #code4lib [09:41:55] ---| ---> jbrinley [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-56e9cfec92daf53f] has joined #code4lib [09:42:00] gsf | abarrera: at your service, lover boy [09:42:03] ---| ---> gnewton [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-870964835efa2fcf] has joined #code4lib [09:42:04] mjg_ | Jay_"Boy"_Luker++ # for emceeing [09:42:06] akorphan | pmurray: Isn't the nearest Krispy Kreme in Cranston? 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[09:42:18] ---| ---> epoz [i=46a4194e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c230a89cbfe55a31] has joined #code4lib [09:42:20] mbklein | crickets++ [09:42:26] timmcgeary | crickets++ [09:42:26] ejk | crickets++ [09:42:26] fak3r | crickets++ [09:42:27] jbrinley | crickets++ [09:42:27] mjg_ | crickets++ [09:42:28] lbjay | crickets++ [09:42:28] BillDueber | crickets++ [09:42:31] abarrera | crickets++ [09:42:32] mjg_ | REVENGE [09:42:32] ---| ---> mib_x5hk8adw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0fc6b78fb9e15c25] has joined #code4lib [09:42:35] fak3r | wow, big ups for crickets [09:42:36] jbrinley | @karma crickets [09:42:36] zoia | jbrinley: Karma for "crickets" has been increased 10 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 9. [09:42:37] pmurray | akorphan: Sorry to tease -- I'm in my office in Ohio, and there is a Krispy Kreme right next door at the Speeday. [09:42:37] mbklein | @knows mbklein pmurray [09:42:38] escowles | buddy_holly+ [09:42:39] zoia | mbklein: mbklein and pmurray do not know each other [09:42:39] akorphan | 3_minutes_31_seconds++ [09:42:51] rsinger_ | could someone please advise if a mr. singer can be found at this residence? [09:42:53] pmurray | mbklein++ # Fixing @knows [09:42:57] ---| ---> cliff [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:43:02] BillDueber | @sing buddy holly : everyday [09:43:04] zoia | Everyday, it's a gettin' closer / Goin' faster than a roller coaster / Love like yours will surely come my way / A-hey, a-hey hey [09:43:05] naomi | ohio-- [09:43:09] mjg_ | ... wait for it? [09:43:12] abarrera | did he say sex-libris? [09:43:15] ---| ---> gszxcv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-91dd33ffe4f03b5e] has joined #code4lib [09:43:22] ---| ---> mib_3yqdrv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9e0d39414379503c] has joined #code4lib [09:43:26] ---| ---> mpark [i=8094d890@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77f5add946d13663] has joined #code4lib [09:43:26] akorphan | pmurray: You remote types. [09:43:27] MrDys- | libarians [09:43:30] ---| ---> mib_qo72y7 [i=46a41975@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ca3033012b8a753a] has joined #code4lib [09:43:31] BillDueber | Someday ex-libris will be my ex-vendor [09:43:32] fak3r | lib4coders [09:43:34] naomi | abarrera: go grow hair on the backs of your hands. [09:43:35] rosy1280 | ex_exlibrians++ [09:43:38] ---| ---> mib_vtxppdha [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cbc46d4cb4b5bfa7] has joined #code4lib [09:43:42] mbklein | @sing weezer : buddy holly [09:43:43] pmurray | naomi: Hey -- if y'all ain't votin' to bring Code4Lib here next year, none of y'alls get Krispy Kreme doughnuts. [09:43:45] zoia | Woo-hoo, but you know I'm yours / Woo-hoo, and I know you're mine / Woo-hoo, and that's for all time / Oo-ee-oo, I look just like Buddy Holly [09:43:45] mjg_ | south_jersey represent. [09:43:48] pmurray | :-) [09:43:52] royt | are OPACs ever shiny? [09:43:53] fak3r | vendor-- [09:43:53] akorphan | Awesome how OCLC is all "Hey, we're so open." Except for not so much. [09:43:54] abarrera | naomi++ [09:43:54] timmcgeary | that's definitely better than sex-vendor [09:43:55] lbjay | "Don't call me a company. Just call me." [09:43:56] ejk | mgoblue [09:43:57] fak3r | changes++ [09:43:58] BigD | pmurray has a hover chair take him to Krispy Kreme [09:44:01] naomi | pmurray: my arteries will be happy. [09:44:02] abarrera | south_jersey++ [09:44:04] gsf | anarchivist: wake up [09:44:07] fak3r | badger++ [09:44:07] edsu | badger++ [09:44:07] akorphan | badger++ [09:44:11] rsinger_ | badgers++ [09:44:11] escowles | badger badger badger badger mushrooms! [09:44:17] ---| ---> jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1ae451ece0994f81] has joined #code4lib [09:44:18] ---| ---> jfereira [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-904fbec2504a404e] has joined #code4lib [09:44:21] mbklein | SNAKE! SNAKE! [09:44:21] timmcgeary | macgruber++ [09:44:22] fak3r | photoshop skills-- [09:44:25] mjg_ | are there badgers in south jersey? [09:44:26] ---| ---> jchen [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f0c3ad0cadf34a07] has joined #code4lib [09:44:27] rosy1280 | macgyver++ [09:44:27] edsu | and a missile! [09:44:27] ejk | pepsuber [09:44:27] wickr | ecorrado++ [09:44:33] codemonkey | slideshow++ [09:44:36] ---| ---> bess [i=46a4195e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3bcbe79cbcd77399] has joined #code4lib [09:44:38] naomi | people like BESS [09:44:41] naomi | bess++ [09:44:41] timmcgeary | asnagy++ [09:44:44] mbklein | bess++ [09:44:46] timmcgeary | nagg-EE [09:44:46] rosy1280 | bess++ [09:44:48] mbklein | asnagy++ [09:44:49] akorphan | nooj++ [09:44:49] dlovins | asnagy++ [09:44:50] ---| ---> v_a [i=46a4195c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7b54c8b2b1d6beaf] has joined #code4lib [09:44:50] ---| ---> jrochkind104 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d84c588231285902] has joined #code4lib [09:44:51] royt | andrew "naggy"? [09:44:51] timmcgeary | bess++ [09:44:55] mjg_ | The Magyar Chieftain of Clan VuFind [09:44:55] gsf | andrew nagy is the macgyver of the library tech world [09:44:57] naomi | asnagy++ [09:44:57] rsinger_ | people like BACON [09:45:00] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=46a41961@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-67877da4a6f39502] has joined #code4lib [09:45:01] BillDueber | asnagy++ bess++ [09:45:02] lbjay | i've been saying it nay-jee [09:45:07] edsu | oh noes i have to work! [09:45:09] jrochkind104 | just give me a ballpoint pen and two cards from the card catalog. [09:45:11] fak3r | vufind: does that mean 'velvet underground find'? so it searches all velvet underground boots [09:45:12] rosy1280 | remember that bess has her notifiers on [09:45:14] fak3r | joke fail [09:45:16] rosy1280 | bess++ [09:45:18] akorphan | Royt: If you're actively Hungarian it's "Nooj" [09:45:22] rsinger_ | library_hand++ [09:45:23] dlovins | @cyborg vufind [09:45:24] BillDueber | "both are here to stay" -- that's not at all clear. [09:45:25] zoia | dlovins: V.U.F.I.N.D.: Versatile Unit Fabricated for Infiltration and Nocturnal Destruction [09:45:27] ---| ---> ksdrake [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a201489008c2e329] has joined #code4lib [09:45:33] royt | where's asnagy when you need him? [09:45:33] MrDys- | nooj. lawl. [09:45:34] harmless | i'm a newb... what led to the bacon meme? 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[09:46:11] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-61.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [09:46:12] mbklein | That would be "TCO" [09:46:12] jtgorman | harmless: mjg_ is obsessed with it [09:46:12] fak3r | 1/2 laugh [09:46:13] abarrera | deploy crickets [09:46:14] ---| ---> Toke [n=vircuser@ip-24-105.bnaa.dk] has joined #code4lib [09:46:15] lbjay | zoia++ [09:46:17] ---| User: *** Toke is now known as TokeE [09:46:19] rsinger_ | professionalism++ [09:46:20] BillDueber | "implementing" <> "running for five years" [09:46:22] naomi | mbklein++ [09:46:22] jrochkind104 | Which, really, is the same with proprietary software. The TCO of the FIRST institution to adopt Primo was a lot higher, I guarantee. 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[09:46:52] mbklein | mjg_++ [09:46:58] ejk | a pig is a filthy animal, but bacon tastes good [09:46:59] abarrera | they got Primo for $19.95 [09:47:02] crikey | ain't necessarily so [09:47:06] akorphan | mjg_: you're probably righter about Nagy than I am. [09:47:07] ---| ---> kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:47:09] fak3r | if you try to code it all by hand, yeah, proprietary could be cheaper - that's why open source means sharing, not just taking [09:47:11] jwn | commercial solution is like straight jacket [09:47:13] gsf | that movie epitomizes whiteness for certain swaths of our society [09:47:13] rsinger | @dunno search PLATFORMS [09:47:14] zoia | rsinger: 1 found: #303: "HOW MANY PLATFORMS CAN I PUT YOU DOWN FOR?" [09:47:17] jrochkind104 | a human is a pretty filthy animal too, so, you know. [09:47:17] ---| ---> reeset [i=46a4195f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c44bb742568704c6] has joined #code4lib [09:47:19] JodiS__ | @later tell ecorrado: opensource costs might be frontloaded. do you think that years 1-4 are the right years to look at for comparison? Or are projects so short-lived that that's the right way to go? [09:47:20] MrDys- | abarrera: $1,995,000? [09:47:20] zoia | JodiS__: The operation succeeded. [09:47:20] BillDueber | akorphan: "righter"??? [09:47:24] jrochkind104 | fak3r: exactly [09:47:25] ---| ---> iand [n=iand@wsip-70-164-25-49.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:47:33] mjg_ | akorphan++ # for bringin' the troof, though. [09:47:36] kat3 | in 4-D???? [09:47:42] akorphan | BillDueber: descriptivist language FTW [09:47:43] timmcgeary | aberrera: and they got the 3 KB's for free [09:47:48] rsinger | WC3 [09:47:48] ---| ---> ejlynema [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7320fa5cda23a60c] has joined #code4lib [09:47:56] ---| ---> Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #code4lib [09:48:01] ---| <<-- mib_vtxppdha [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cbc46d4cb4b5bfa7] has quit (Client Quit) [09:48:02] kgs | marshall hasn't been making those "TOC" [sic] claims quite so much since he got involved in OLE [09:48:05] jrochkind104 | WD40? [09:48:08] fak3r | POSIX compliant [09:48:08] abarrera | MyDys: well yes, when you consider it is $19.95 a month over 100,000 months [09:48:11] JodiS__ | yesterday's wotd from davepattern's hotstuff: code4lib2009! :) [09:48:14] BigD | how many re-indexing coupons can i sell you? [09:48:19] rsinger | SPEL_CHECK+ [09:48:24] * rjw_ remembers implementing 'open systems' [09:48:24] * edsu hopes for another badger slide [09:48:27] akorphan | Posix complaints: Up the stairs and to the left. [09:48:33] fak3r | rsinger: spel_chek needed for irssi [09:48:44] BillDueber | code4lib wiki needs a Giant List Of Library-Ish APIs [09:48:54] fak3r | so they're a former libris customer? [09:48:57] abarrera | edsu: i'm putting my money on picts of his cats [09:48:58] ---| ---> scotchko [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6da5f93ced9e3f2] has joined #code4lib [09:48:59] gsf | CAPS_LOCK++ [09:49:00] bess | BillDueber++ # that would be really useful [09:49:02] kgs | cost issues also have more factors than bottom-line dollar-per-dollar migratin/dev/maintenance comparisons [09:49:02] ---| <<-- scotchko [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c6da5f93ced9e3f2] has quit (Client Quit) [09:49:02] jrochkind104 | BillDueber: It's got a page for one, I think. [09:49:06] rsinger | text_based_interfaces-- [09:49:12] * JodiS__ would like some serious analysis of TCOO opensource vs. commercial. what are the factors, what affects one and the other? [09:49:18] fak3r | cli++ [09:49:18] dlovins | Re: Bacon meme: Didn't RoyT say something about new OPACs being "lipstick on pig", but then NCSU/Endeca slaughtered the pig. So is the idea now that there's plenty of bacon to go around? [09:49:19] rsinger | teh_pretty++ [09:49:22] akorphan | kgs++ [09:49:24] gsf | text-based_interfaces++ [09:49:27] BigD | BillDueber: make that a talk for next year! then fail! [09:49:27] anarchivist | dlovins++ [09:49:27] naomi | libraries also offer internet, in many cases. [09:49:27] fak3r | sit on your computer? I think that might break it [09:49:32] * mbklein is sleepy. Damn you, Whatever Room!!! [09:49:33] ---| ---> jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [09:49:33] gsf | pictures-- [09:49:38] mjg_ | dlovins++ [09:49:40] pmurray | dlovins++ [09:49:40] * JodiS__ would like more code4lib public librarians (missing beanworks) [09:49:40] naomi | and public libraries often offer computer to use internet. [09:49:41] akorphan | dlovins: ejlynema++ [09:49:43] fak3r | bullet_points++ [09:49:44] kgs | I touch on this in my BASIST artcle and also in talks I give [09:49:49] timmcgeary | You can search books in Google? [09:49:50] ---| ---> mib_3yq678 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-62de08088fe995c1] has joined #code4lib [09:49:51] wickr | BillDueber: there's some thing started on the wiki [09:49:54] anarchivist | mbklein: i'm whatever, and i blame the whatever room [09:50:01] naomi | libarry??? [09:50:01] bess | mbklein++ # I got a ruby chat bot running this morning before breakfast. Thanks for the chatbot tutorial! [09:50:03] wickr | ibahn-- [09:50:07] ---| ---> calvinm__ [n=calvinm@wsip-70-164-25-51.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:50:08] mjg_ | edsu: https://www.msu.edu/~willso11/images/Random%20Pictures/badger.jpg [09:50:10] timmcgeary | Our science dept won't buy any library-related resources [09:50:12] BillDueber | wickr: Awesome. I'll look at it, get bored, and do nothing. But not until next week. [09:50:18] fak3r | stealing++ [09:50:20] ---| ---> jphipps [n=jphipps@wsip-70-164-25-116.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:50:27] escowles | disintegration-- [09:50:30] timmcgeary | stealing++ [09:50:32] fak3r | silos mentioned, again [09:50:34] ---| <<-- calvinm_ [i=calvinm@fraser.sfu.ca] has quit () [09:50:36] gsf | "dis-integrated"! get it? [09:50:40] mbklein | bess: awesome. what platform did you use? [09:50:41] dlovins | data_silos-- [09:50:43] fak3r | disintgration_by_the_cure++ [09:50:43] ---| ---> dchud [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3aa018b112ced780] has joined #code4lib [09:50:44] MrDys- | clip_art++ [09:50:46] edsu | mjg_: SCARY! [09:50:46] bess | mbklein: rbot [09:50:48] wickr | BillDueber: sure, ed vielmetti made like 100 edits yesterday, linking a ton of things [09:50:53] fak3r | mrdys++ [09:50:58] anarchivist | http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/02/12/europe/EU-ODD-Netherlands-Purloined-Porn.php [09:50:59] dchud | wow, this wireless is a bummer :( [09:51:01] gsf | unfacetinating [09:51:01] fak3r | mighty mouse [09:51:04] abarrera | mighty_mouse++ [09:51:11] rsinger | bess: i use an rbot in the #talis channel [09:51:11] ---| ---> chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:51:12] timmcgeary | mighty_mouse++ [09:51:13] ---| <<-- mib_3yqdrv [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9e0d39414379503c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:51:15] harmless | dlovins: thanks! [09:51:16] BillDueber | Here I come to save the day! [09:51:18] jrochkind104 | Applies to OCLC too. [09:51:18] ---| ---> scotchko [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-08c67664c1ba650c] has joined #code4lib [09:51:18] ---| ---> atz [n=atz@wsip-70-164-25-55.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:51:21] akorphan | Who do you think would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman? [09:51:21] edsu | horizontally_skewed_mouse++ [09:51:25] JodiS__ | dlovins++ re:bacon [09:51:25] jwn | "they can't make a product thats good ... [09:51:26] naomi | a lot of vendors can't make a product worthy of ANYONE. [09:51:34] BigD | akorphan: Ditka [09:51:34] mjg_ | libraries: please stop having such different needs [09:51:35] fak3r | "...that's easy, cherry Pez" [09:51:41] dlovins | harmless: really just conjecture on my part :-) [09:51:44] timmcgeary | BigD++ [09:51:46] fak3r | needs, needs, needs [09:51:50] anarchivist | BigD++ [09:51:55] akorphan | Man, are we really so needy? [09:51:56] ---| ---> mib_lc2i5l [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7b6ff2cc875df428] has joined #code4lib [09:51:56] jrochkind104 | SuperMouse vs. MightyMan [09:51:57] JodiS__ | kgs: I love that you talk about TCOO. Need more echoers. :) [09:51:58] timmcgeary | we are all so needy... [09:51:59] jwn | little libraries, can't we all just come together? [09:52:04] mjg_ | we clearly need to form a committee to develop a standard for needs. [09:52:07] fak3r | why doesn't he just say there's no i in team? [09:52:11] akorphan | libraries: the high maintenance significant-other. [09:52:12] harmless | dlovins: but no one contradicted it so it's like ... the code4lib-bacon-origin-myth or something. [09:52:15] edsu | robocop solutions [09:52:16] MrDys- | ...but there is an i in pie [09:52:19] ejk | robosolutions++ [09:52:19] anarchivist | but there is an I in "meat pie" [09:52:21] bess | akorphan++ [09:52:24] BillDueber | TCO is hard, because no one ever does the same thing for the first time twice. [09:52:24] timmcgeary | Greatest American Hero could kick MightyMouse's ass [09:52:25] jfereira | mmm, pie [09:52:27] mjg_ | fak3r++ [09:52:30] jrochkind104 | I'm sorry, your needs are non-standard-compliant, please need something else. [09:52:31] anarchivist | MrDys-++ [09:52:34] BigD | anarchivist: elbows too [09:52:35] MrDys- | meat is an anagram of "team"... [09:52:38] edsu | @sing greatest american hero [09:52:39] zoia | edsu: No songs found by greatest american hero [09:52:40] abarrera | mjg_: only after the committe for standards develops a standard for creating a committee for developing standards [09:52:40] fak3r | where do you work? ExLibris. Oh sorry, hope you find something else soon. [09:52:44] fak3r | vendor_lockin-- [09:52:54] BillDueber | Yeah, that's why they give us encypted cobol to work with. [09:53:00] BillDueber | ENCRYPTED FUCKING COBOL!!! [09:53:02] naomi | yeah, but is ExLibris extensibility as good as blacklight and solrmarc? [09:53:04] fak3r | and yr not going to be able to innovate at all either [09:53:08] lbjay | BillDueber++ [09:53:10] gsf | open except for in every way [09:53:17] jrochkind104 | 'as good' in terms of what? [09:53:18] akorphan | BillDueber: That is some kind of sick joke, right? [09:53:24] JodiS__ | @quote add TCO is hard, because no one ever does the same thing for the first time twice. [09:53:24] zoia | JodiS__: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [09:53:25] kgs | it's support and encourage "customers" not the software [09:53:26] abarrera | greatest_american_hero++ [09:53:26] mjg_ | greatest American hero? http://lackoftalent.org/michael/images/ace_waterwheels.png [09:53:30] naomi | jrochkind104: ease of customizing. [09:53:30] BillDueber | akorphan: Kill me now. [09:53:38] fak3r | naomi: I think they used to be, but no longer (another bad joke about the x intheir name) [09:53:39] edsu | @quote add < BillDueber> ENCRYPTED FUCKING COBOL!!! [09:53:39] zoia | edsu: The operation succeeded. Quote #1765 added. [09:53:40] mbklein | BillDueber++ # isn't COBOL self-encrypting in the same way that the Lost Language of the Birds is? [09:53:43] jrochkind104 | But yeah, if you're going to spend X number of hours adding things to an EL product... you might as well be spending those X hours writing open source, for non-trivial values of X. [09:53:54] naomi | look! elevator interface that makes sense! [09:53:59] fak3r | L please [09:54:01] kgs | watching Primo "development" in two academic libraries was the final straw that drove me to oss [09:54:01] timmcgeary | "believe it or not, I'm walking on air..." [09:54:04] rsinger | @quote add I'm sorry, your needs are non-standard-compliant, please need something else. [09:54:04] zoia | rsinger: The operation succeeded. Quote #1766 added. [09:54:07] BigD | mbklein: twitter is the lost language of the birds. tweet. [09:54:09] jwn | there are no no trvial values of X when extending xLibris products. [09:54:10] jrochkind104 | It would be different if the EL product out of the box did a LOT more than Blacklight/Etc did. Right now, no. [09:54:11] ---| <<-- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/dbs] has quit ("Ex-Chat") [09:54:11] BillDueber | ex libris really does have a lot of good stuff, but implemented so poorly as to be useless. [09:54:12] naomi | jrochkind104: agreed [09:54:13] jrochkind104 | Summon on the other hand, yes. [09:54:33] * anarchivist reads a scroll of summon sales pitch [09:54:37] naomi | blacklight, solrmarc >> vendor discovery software [09:54:40] BillDueber | jrochkind104: The EL product *does* do a lot more than Blacklight. The EL OPAC doesn't, but there's a lot more there there. [09:54:42] akorphan | @sing kerli : walking on air [09:54:44] zoia | Feel it / Breathe it / Believe it / And you'll be walking on air [09:54:44] fak3r | I'm sensing a raising amount of buzwords in this talk... [09:54:46] ---| ---> jstirnaman [i=46a4194a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a599e89908f61ebd] has joined #code4lib [09:54:51] MrDys- | what's ecorrado's relationship with EL? [09:54:52] abarrera | ace_waterwheels++ [09:54:56] mbklein | @sing joey scarbury : believe it or not [09:54:57] jwn | And you customizations die with each new release of aleph [09:54:57] zoia | I can't believe it myself; / Suddenly I'm up on top of the world, / Should've been somebody else. / Believe it or not, [09:54:59] anarchivist | anything + solrmarc >> encore [09:54:59] akorphan | I think that's a different walking on air. [09:55:03] mbklein | @sing joey scarbury : believe it or not : * [09:55:04] zoia | Look at what's happened to me, / I can't believe it myself; / Suddenly I'm up on top of the world, / Should've been somebody else. / Believe it or not, / I'm walkin' on air, / I never thought I could feel so free; / Flyin' away on a wing and a pray'r, / Who could it be? / Believe it or not, it's just me. / Just like the light of new day, / It hit me from out of the blue; / Breakin' me out of the spell I was (2 more messages) [09:55:06] akorphan | oh well [09:55:12] jrochkind104 | Primo does a lot more than Blacklight? Like what? I think it does maybe one important thing that Blacklight doesn't -- same/similar record grouping/de-dup. That's about it. [09:55:13] akorphan | akorphan-- [09:55:26] naomi | anything + anything >> sirsi or iii [09:55:28] abarrera | mbklein++ # thanks, now i'm singing that in my head [09:55:35] timmcgeary | seriously need to get the theme song of Greatest American Hero in zoia [09:55:35] gsf | X = buzzwords for a non-trivial value of X [09:55:37] BigD | more Meatloaf [09:55:39] wickr | MrDys-: nothing formal I don't think [09:55:39] kgs | thing is metasearch is wrong. wrong. [09:55:40] BillDueber | jrochkind104: My bad. Was comparing blacklight to Aleph. Primo is a different story. [09:55:42] anarchivist | jrochkind104: primo is pretty interesting [09:55:45] mjg_ | I saw Hammer walk into a phonebooth and out came ace waterwheels. [09:55:45] mbklein | @pirate [sing joey scarbury : believe it or not : *] [09:55:47] zoia | mbklein: Look at what's happened to me, / I ain't believe it myself; / Suddenly I be up on top 'o th' seven seas, / 've be somebody else. / Believe it or not, / I be walkin' on air, / I never thought I could feel so free; / Flyin' away on a win' 'n a pray'r, / Who could it be? / Believe it or not, 'tis just me. / Just like th' light 'o new day, / It hit me from out 'o th' blue; / Breakin' me out 'o th' spell I was (2 more messages) [09:55:50] birkin | oh man, in----teeeerrrr-----net headaches [09:55:51] fak3r | wiki? no way, anyone can edit that! [09:55:51] jfereira | meatloaf is the new bacon [09:55:54] ---| <<-- steambadger [i=18f9d204@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9bf72c9e2e568785] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [09:55:57] naomi | is he a shill??? [09:56:00] anarchivist | meatfoaf [09:56:03] jrochkind104 | BillDueber: Yeah, Blacklight is in the domain of Primo, not Aleph. [09:56:09] MrDys- | do I need to make a photoshop...? [09:56:10] jwn | when your developers an incapable of improving the product, ask your customers to do it for you [09:56:13] gsf | @ana im ace waterwheels [09:56:14] fak3r | conflict_of_interest-- [09:56:14] BigD | c4l = meatfoaf [09:56:14] zoia | gsf: Warm sweetie leach [09:56:14] mbklein | @sing meat loaf : bat out of hell [09:56:15] royt | the only thing worse than metasearching is not metasearching [09:56:17] zoia | So we gotta make the most of our one night together. / When it's over you know, / We'll both be so alone. / Like a bat out of hell [09:56:23] jrochkind104 | jwn++ # precisely [09:56:24] * BillDueber has managed to never look at Primo, and hence it's off his radar. [09:56:25] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-31.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [09:56:27] mbklein | meat_loaf++ [09:56:30] fak3r | doesn't sound very 'free' to me [09:56:38] rsinger | we're all shills. Shills for summon. [09:56:39] BLTnoTomato | with preg_match, what special character denotes only at the beginning of the line? is it ^? [09:56:41] fak3r | colors-- [09:56:42] BigD | mbklein: ++ [09:56:51] mbklein | IF YOU NEED TO LOG IN TO SEE SHIT, IT'S NOT OPEN [09:56:54] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-17.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [09:56:56] fak3r | hard_to_see++ [09:57:00] akorphan | wikis: the solution for commercial enterprise applications too lazy to document their own software. [09:57:01] BillDueber | BLTnoTomato: ^ is correct [09:57:01] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-101.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [09:57:05] kgs | a to z lists are hell too royt, no disagreement, but I think Summon takes the right approach [09:57:05] ---| ---> wtd [n=buff@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [09:57:11] fak3r | akorphan: true! [09:57:14] ---| <<-- MrDys [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-124.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [09:57:15] jwn | customer created documentation! sounds like OSS [09:57:24] fak3r | yah, what do I see here? [09:57:24] kgs | and has way way more content agreements than WC at this point [09:57:30] * timmcgeary downloading entire GAH bittorrent [09:57:31] BillDueber | jwn: Sounds like free labor! [09:57:34] mjg_ | ace_waterwheels is in the building [09:57:34] rsinger | kgs: please to be giving a lightning talk about this summon! [09:57:34] jrochkind104 | Summon is really cool. It's not about the technology, it's about them doing the work of aggregating and normalizing all that metadata. [09:57:36] fak3r | own_servers++ [09:57:45] ---| User: *** MrDys- is now known as MrDys [09:57:49] kgs | rsinger that would be 3! a c4l best [09:57:52] crikey | all ILS vendors have that amirite? [09:57:59] BillDueber | jrochkind104++ # Getting vendors to normalize and release their data is a huge part of the ballgame [09:58:00] BigD | jrochkind104: i was impressed by the list of ppl they have [09:58:02] crikey | or ILS User groups [09:58:08] kgs | jrochkind104 exactly -- it is the work of those relationships [09:58:13] timmcgeary | torture will make people use it [09:58:18] timmcgeary | Jack Bauer will make people use it [09:58:20] BillDueber | jrochkind104: Ditto with the ticTOCs people -- getting vendors off their dead asses is a huge step forward. [09:58:21] JodiS__ | own_servers+- [09:58:21] BLTnoTomato | BillDueber, thanks. i had it in the wrong spot '^/Library\//' as opposed to '/^Library\//' [09:58:22] jrochkind104 | Yeah, it helps that Summon started out with Proquest right out the bat. But they also have obviously dedicated serious staff resources to this, and smart people. [09:58:27] asnagy | jrochkind++ [09:58:27] JodiS__ | findability is an issue [09:58:30] BigD | is III doing it? [09:58:37] ---| ---> mib_9m9gv4 [i=896ec05a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fea00cda9c6e2328] has joined #code4lib [09:58:37] rsinger | "Enhanced Invoicing Techniques" [09:58:41] * jrochkind104 realizes 'out the bat' doesnt' mean anyting. [09:58:43] JodiS__ | mbklein++ #IF YOU NEED TO LOG IN TO SEE SHIT, IT'S NOT OPEN [09:58:47] ---| <--- mpark [i=8094d890@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77f5add946d13663] has left #code4lib () [09:58:48] JodiS__ | divide_and_conquer-- [09:58:52] kgs | does iii play well with anyone? [09:58:54] mjg_ | the letter 'g' is missing from ecorrado's phonetic keyboard... and he doesn't even need it. [09:59:01] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b4abf8a2907c401] has joined #code4lib [09:59:02] fak3r | just sign up and agree to all our terms to use our open api [09:59:07] jrochkind104 | kgs: I wonder how much Summon will cost. My guess is a LOT. [09:59:19] mjg_ | fak3r++ [09:59:20] abarrera | mjg_: mike eeearlooo [09:59:21] ---| ---> tvol [n=chatzill@38.219.132.100] has joined #code4lib [09:59:24] crikey | i like it when he says "kinda" [09:59:26] fak3r | divide_and_conquer_by_Husker_Du++ [09:59:30] rsinger | jrochkind104: perhaps we need a lightning talk on the cost [09:59:33] kgs | jrochkind104 yes, I assume it will be very spendy, though again, compared to what is the q [09:59:41] MrDys | http://www.dysinterested.com/exlibris.png [09:59:42] fak3r | @sign husker du : divide and conquer [09:59:43] zoia | fak3r: i know what you did last summer [09:59:44] bjy | kgs iii is the kid sitting alone in the lunch room [09:59:45] mbklein | That's my biggest problem with the SirsiDynix "code portal" or whatever they call it. Customers create code that only other customers are allowed to see and use. And only as long as they have an active support agreement. [09:59:46] jwn | sourceforge is a developers network [09:59:57] ---| ---> bradw [i=46a41956@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fc05a5c69a4e4f8e] has joined #code4lib [09:59:58] kgs | it's also going to SEEM very spendy in this year's budget enviro [09:59:58] fak3r | @sign husker du : divide and conquer [09:59:59] BigD | wanna shake things up? let's all post what we're paying the vendors on the wiki ;) [09:59:59] zoia | fak3r: I find your situation untenable [10:00:07] JodiS__ | MrDys++ [10:00:07] mjg_ | ecorrado++ # straight outta camden [10:00:08] atz | mbklein: yeah, and most the code there sucks [10:00:09] kgs | like "what is this 'money' thing you refer to?" [10:00:09] anarchivist | http://lol.ianloic.com/image-cache/bbe/bbeacdd8fb4ec385e9099e1b91780b20.jpg [10:00:11] timmcgeary | mbklein: except for the soon-to-be VuFind driver [10:00:17] jrochkind104 | kgs: Compared to what... its' GOT no competition, it is the only worthwhile product of it's class. It's the first expensive product in a long time that seems to be both useful and something there's no way I could duplicate on my own. [10:00:19] mbklein | BigD++ # No kidding. [10:00:28] akorphan | 1: sell a tool that doesn't play well with other software. 2: sell a tool to crowbar tool 1 into playing well. 3: profit! [10:00:28] * lbjay nods [10:00:37] ---| ---> lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has joined #code4lib [10:00:39] jrochkind104 | @sing eugene mcdaniels: compared to what [10:00:42] kgs | jrochkind104 right, cuz it's not just code it's the ability of proquest to swing those content deals [10:00:44] timmcgeary | mbklein: I negotiated full release of Unicorn/Symphony driver for any SD customer [10:00:48] asnagy | rsinger: we could do a few more lightning talks if you need [10:00:49] fak3r | irc mention [10:00:51] zoia | jrochkind104: No lyrics for compared to what by eugene mcdaniels. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [10:00:53] jrochkind104 | kgs: absolutely [10:00:55] rsinger | asnagy++ [10:00:58] fak3r | face_to_face mentioned again [10:01:02] kgs | asnagy++ [10:01:02] abarrera | BigD++ [10:01:10] mbklein | timmcgeary: Was that written with knowledge gained from the SD portal? If so, SD made money (even if indirectly) off of vufind development. [10:01:25] fak3r | I'm not huge, but I'm a fan of open source [10:01:25] anarchivist | OpenSOARS++ [10:01:28] jrochkind104 | @sing les mccann: compared to what [10:01:34] mbklein | timmcgeary: And in a way that it shouldn't have had to happen. [10:01:35] zoia | jrochkind104: No lyrics for compared to what by les mccann. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [10:01:37] JodiS__ | divide_and_conquer-- [10:01:37] fak3r | vendors giving us something? define give? [10:01:37] timmcgeary | mbklein: No [10:01:48] pmurray | @quote add I'm not huge, but I'm a fan of open source [10:01:48] zoia | pmurray: The operation succeeded. Quote #1767 added. [10:01:49] royt | @sing eddie harris compared to what [10:01:50] zoia | royt: No songs found by eddie harris compared to what [10:02:01] timmcgeary | mbklein: This is completely our own development using the API [10:02:07] ---| <--- mib_x5hk8adw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0fc6b78fb9e15c25] has left #code4lib () [10:02:09] jrochkind104 | mbklein: Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion. Vendors taking advantage of open source. [10:02:10] BigD | @sing reo speedwagon [10:02:12] zoia | It's an old disguise. / I may be wealthy but I can still be wise / Drop my old disguise. / Drop it. drop it. it's an old disguise. [10:02:13] flyingzumwalt | @sing beyonce knowles : single ladies [10:02:15] JodiS__ | lbjay: Asheville street art: http://www.flickr.com/groups/31187670@N00/pool/ [10:02:17] rosy1280 | ecorrado++ [10:02:18] zoia | flyingzumwalt: No lyrics for single ladies by beyonce knowles. Searched lyricwiki & lyricsty [10:02:18] akorphan | Dude, was that just our whole break? [10:02:22] mbklein | timmcgeary++ # cool [10:02:26] fak3r | but if you're working in open source you're doing things for good, and retirement my not be the same as most think of it [10:02:28] ---| <<-- reeset [i=46a4195f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c44bb742568704c6] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:02:29] ---| <<-- mdoyle [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1e12da32f1a7dec9] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:02:29] timmcgeary | did Ed just take 23.5 minutes? [10:02:32] anarchivist | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/funny-pictures-cat-curses-the-forcefield-of-the-cheeseburger.jpg [10:02:32] ---| <<-- jwn [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1ae451ece0994f81] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:02:37] harmless | asheville looks like a very cool place [10:02:39] BigD | is this real coffee or a tease coffee again? [10:02:40] fak3r | retirement means doing what I love (like my job now) but not getting paid [10:02:44] mbklein | jrochkind104: Taking advantage of, no. Holding hostage, yes. [10:02:50] mjg_ | lbjay: PRE-EMPT'D [10:02:51] jrochkind104 | mbklein: True. 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[10:20:06] ---| ---> SportChick [i=essy@freenode/staff/sportchick] has joined #code4lib [10:20:27] * BLTnoTomato sorry for the php questions... i got banned from #php and i think it's because i'm using mibbet [10:20:35] jbrinley | BLTnoTomato: /\.jpg/i [10:21:04] jbrinley | BLTnoTomato: although you might add /\.jpe?g/i [10:21:21] ---| ---> cliff [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [10:21:29] ---| ---> mpark [i=8094d890@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77f5add946d13663] has joined #code4lib [10:21:31] ---| ---> cbarr [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-474be97cef1035d0] has joined #code4lib [10:21:42] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [10:21:44] ---| ---> jdshaw [n=chatzill@vpn-84-90.dartmouth.edu] has joined #code4lib [10:21:49] dlovins | Hi everybody [10:21:57] ---| ---> mib_x5hk8adw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4ac245275555db8] has joined #code4lib [10:21:58] BLTnoTomato | jbrinley, thanks . i'll give that a try [10:22:01] lbjay | lbjay-- # didn't give folks enough time to settle in [10:22:06] akorphan | Uhh... slides? [10:22:19] ejk | mirror displays [10:22:22] dlovins | I guess that's not a live view of the IRC [10:22:32] ---| ---> flyingzumwalt [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-73f899ddfa5f5dd6] has joined #code4lib [10:22:39] timmcgeary | IRC as slides++ [10:22:39] lbjay | dchud++ [10:22:41] wickr | dlovins: nope [10:22:42] akorphan | I want to see that microfiche thing again. [10:22:45] mjg_ | I was kind of digging the mibbits. [10:22:48] ---| ---> charper [n=charper@HARPER.BOBST.NYU.EDU] has joined #code4lib [10:22:56] ---| ---> rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-121.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:22:56] ---| ---> anarchivist [n=anarchiv@wsip-70-164-25-102.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:22:56] jrochkind104 | HI MOM [10:22:56] zoia | Ⓣ Ǭ Ǩ Ễ [10:23:09] BigD | akorphan: seadragon from microsoft. i have it on my iphone [10:23:21] ejk | recalculating [10:23:29] akorphan | INPUT OUT OF RANGE [10:23:32] dchud | phew! [10:23:32] flyingzumwalt | @sing home on the range [10:23:34] akorphan | BigD: Thanks [10:23:34] * gsf is still settling [10:23:35] cbeer | BLTnoTomato: /.jpe?g$/i [10:23:36] * jtgorman now wonders what irc conversation was captured for the slide [10:23:45] rosy1280 | mbklein there were no jellybeans so i'm having specialk bar [10:23:48] abarrera | deja vu [10:23:54] BigD | akorphan: it is so cool [10:23:59] royt | free kitty! [10:23:59] dchud | i have to admit, Adam's voice is pretty amazing, too. [10:24:03] abarrera | look it's BigD as a cat [10:24:06] mjg_ | that cat looks delicious [10:24:07] timmcgeary | fat_cat++ [10:24:08] anarchivist | adam++ [10:24:10] BigD | that cat ate abarrera! [10:24:13] akorphan | BigD: I'd be interested in brainstorming on other neat uses for it [10:24:13] ---| ---> mbklein [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4eddc05322add33b] has joined #code4lib [10:24:19] JodiS__ | dchud: really? he sounds bored? [10:24:19] anarchivist | mjg_: it'd be better with bacon [10:24:22] decasm | html_slides++ [10:24:26] timmcgeary | ESRI-- [10:24:27] MrDys | what's this MrSID buisness? [10:24:31] naomi | sadly_overweight_cats++ [10:24:31] royt | adam++ [10:24:33] mjg_ | kitteh bacon [10:24:33] zoia | flyingzumwalt: No songs found by home on the range [10:24:34] MrDys | impostor! [10:24:38] royt | anyone_who_makes_me_laugh++ [10:24:39] ---| ---> jmspargu [i=46a41921@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a3a1811869cdd4a3] has joined #code4lib [10:24:40] fak3r | slamming_mrsid++ [10:24:40] mbklein | KML [10:24:40] anarchivist | MRDYS DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE [10:24:41] ejk | hugetoolbars-- [10:24:44] ---| ---> harmless [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-da336cb21566ed81] has joined #code4lib [10:24:51] gsf | so domesticated [10:24:51] jbrinley | MrDys: your evil twin from another dimension [10:24:54] BigD | akorphan: yet another TED link: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/blaise_aguera_y_arcas_demos_photosynth.html [10:24:55] crikey | yikes is that what i think it is? [10:24:58] ---| ---> mib_618k2n [i=46a41936@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-59f6ef0626f2a87c] has joined #code4lib [10:25:06] mjg_ | I sat next to this dude on the train ride back from c4l07. Good guy. [10:25:08] ejk | didn't think I'd be looking at a speculum [10:25:08] fak3r | I can't figure out if this guy is 30 or 50 [10:25:11] naomi | too_many_toolbars_for_presentation-- [10:25:12] royt | crikey: open wide [10:25:18] naomi | 30ish [10:25:19] BigD | um [10:25:24] fak3r | don't get me wrong, sideburns FTW! [10:25:30] royt | fak3r 30, but dresses like he's 50 [10:25:42] jbrinley | fak3r: he was born 30 years ago, lived 50 years, then traveled 20 years back in time [10:25:49] mjg_ | he smokes a pipe too. \m/ [10:25:51] naomi | jbrinley++ [10:25:54] dlovins | Nitrous_oxide++ # (to go with dental instruments) [10:25:54] escowles | sideburns++ [10:26:05] BigD | ameliorated - cool word [10:26:07] bess | he says he's a 70 year old man trapped in a young man's body. :) [10:26:17] fak3r | bess++ [10:26:18] naomi | bess++ [10:26:28] gsf | ogc yeah you know me [10:26:28] timmcgeary | bess++ [10:26:29] dlovins | bess++ [10:26:32] bess | adam++ # he's the one who said it, not me [10:26:38] abarrera | bess: kind like royt [10:26:40] fak3r | bess: so will he look like pitt riding that motorcycle in a few days? [10:26:44] timmcgeary | adam++ [10:26:49] dlovins | adam++ [10:26:50] naomi | adam++ [10:26:50] crikey | gsf++ ha ha [10:26:53] ---| ---> timothy_ [n=timothy@wsip-70-164-25-37.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:27:02] timmcgeary | gsf++ [10:27:05] naomi | adam found the fountain of youth [10:27:13] mbklein | abarrera: I thought royt was a 12 year old trapped in a whisky-soaked body. [10:27:15] MrDys | ponce de leadam [10:27:21] jrochkind104 | i wrote a thesaurus for mapping related information for a class project in library school. geomatics was in there. [10:27:22] royt | aberrera: don't make me hurt you [10:27:31] royt | mbklein++ [10:27:33] gsf | mbklein++ ha [10:27:34] lbjay | wtd_: i swear i wont forget the lovecraft thing [10:27:43] ---| <--- vphill_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-46.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #code4lib () [10:27:45] mjg_ | royt has a 12 year old trapped in his treehouse [10:27:47] fak3r | short_sheeted++ [10:27:54] royt | mjg_: that too [10:27:57] gsf | so many toolbars [10:27:58] BigD | royt: hurt him. take away his lunch [10:28:00] jtgorman | lovecraft thing? [10:28:02] akorphan | hideous_bloated_visage_of_great_cthulhu++ [10:28:09] dlovins | kittens++ [10:28:09] crikey | is that a two headed cat? [10:28:12] abarrera | BigD-- # the economy needs me [10:28:13] mouwd | kittens++ [10:28:16] mjg_ | awwww [10:28:16] gsf | adam: f11 [10:28:17] * mbklein will start work on "Roy Tennant: Well-Preserved" right after he finishes "19 and Stoned: The Rob Casson Story" [10:28:18] escowles | kittehs++ [10:28:20] BigD | vampire car [10:28:22] BigD | cart [10:28:25] BigD | poop [10:28:28] dchud | stephen king, i think, said "i have the heart of a young boy. and i keep it on the shelf with my favorite books." [10:28:31] harmless | is there a big cthulhu statue here somewhere? [10:28:31] abarrera | mbklein++ [10:28:33] naomi | dkittens++ [10:28:36] mbklein | dchud++ [10:28:38] mjg_ | mbklein++ [10:28:38] akorphan | harmless: if only! [10:28:40] MrDys | mbklein: are those your after school special screenplays? [10:28:45] asnagy | can we have more standards? [10:28:50] mbklein | MrDys: Lifetime Original Movies [10:28:51] jrochkind104 | bess: make him write a c4lj article. [10:29:00] bess | jrochkind104: I'm on it. :) [10:29:04] mbklein | bess: What jrochkind104 said [10:29:06] ---| ---> shammer [i=46a4195a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-978357ab9505bee1] has joined #code4lib [10:29:10] jrochkind104 | "I love standards, so many to choose from!" [10:29:14] mjg_ | bess++ [10:29:24] fak3r | asnagy: those are just the standardized standards, they're hashing out the new standards now, should be ready for RFC next year. [10:29:26] royt | my eyes! [10:29:33] BigD | jrochkind104: heh [10:29:35] bess | adam is brilliant. I work with awesome people. it makes me very happey. [10:29:39] crikey | very cool [10:29:40] asnagy | fak3r: phew! [10:29:40] bess | happy, even. [10:29:45] dchud | if you want to defeat royt, use SQL. [10:29:47] jfereira | MQL for GIS? [10:29:47] abarrera | MrDys: "19 and Stoned: The Rob Casson Story" starring MrDys as the kid who kicks Rob's ass in Mortal Kombat [10:29:49] fak3r | I want to steal the buttons from his presentations for my website [10:29:50] anarchivist | bess: yes, this is awesome [10:29:54] anarchivist | abarrera++ [10:29:55] mbklein | bess: Any idea why the aversion to letting kgs tape this talk? [10:29:58] BigD | drop royt [10:30:02] BigD | ; [10:30:05] lbjay | @inaworld too many standards [10:30:05] zoia | In a world... where too many standards [10:30:09] * gsf fires sql cannon at royt [10:30:18] gsf | @dice 3d4 [10:30:18] zoia | gsf: 3, 2, and 4 [10:30:22] jrochkind104 | mbklein: I just assumed he thought the video stole his soul. [10:30:24] ---| ---> mib_9m9gv4 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-92d6f0d5f8636ff4] has joined #code4lib [10:30:28] ---| <--- mib_9m9gv4 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-92d6f0d5f8636ff4] has left #code4lib () [10:30:29] bess | mbklein: he hates having his photo taken. he also won't ride in an internal combustion vehicle if he can possibly help it. He's a very eccentric guy. [10:30:32] ---| ---> mib_9m9gv4 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-92d6f0d5f8636ff4] has joined #code4lib [10:30:34] dchud | nice that kgs actually covered the camera [10:30:38] gsf | royt: ur down to 9 hp [10:30:38] mbklein | jrochkind104: And who's to say it doesn't? [10:30:40] mjg_ | kgs++ [10:30:42] MrDys | where does adam work? [10:30:42] harmless | does anyone know what the google site is to easily dump a list of addresses onto a map you can link to? [10:30:45] BigD | bess: amish? [10:30:47] jbrinley | eek, there won't be a video of this?! [10:30:48] rsinger | @inaworld the Amish were kings [10:30:48] ---| ---> epoz [i=46a4194e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-12ed29a0da6dbc2d] has joined #code4lib [10:30:48] zoia | In a world... where the Amish were kings [10:30:49] mjg_ | UVA [10:30:52] bess | MrDys: He's miiiiine ! [10:31:06] MrDys | bess: is that a call of pride, or to ward off poachers? [10:31:11] mbklein | @inaworld where [band] run rampant... [10:31:11] pmurray | @inaworld [excuse] [10:31:12] zoia | In a world... where where Haitham and the Turban Turbines run rampant... [10:31:14] zoia | In a world... where My excuse for today is "failure of the AE-35 unit" [10:31:17] gsf | BigD: steampunk [10:31:20] crikey | has some real old timey sideburns... cool look [10:31:21] kgs | i was reminded about six times not to tape this so I don't want Any Stress about it. Yes, I did not tape it. [10:31:27] bess | BigD: orthodox Jewish. But also just weird. I don't think the style or the eccentricities are a religious thing. :) [10:31:35] dchud | it boggles my mind that anybody wanted to do this w/xml [10:31:44] harmless | kgs: nice shirt [10:31:53] * pmurray goes to look at the schedule to see what all of the discussion is about [10:31:54] gsf | kgs++ [10:31:59] jrochkind104 | He said he was not emailing for the sabbath, so I guessed jewish, but he doens't cover his head! He's just unique apparently. [10:31:59] BigD | those aren't sideburns. those are siamese ferrets [10:32:05] BLTnoTomato | back to the preg_match- "/\.jpe?g/i" seems to be nabbing even .html and .doc for some reason... is that the right regex for getting jpgs? [10:32:08] abarrera | BigD++ [10:32:12] fak3r | this talk is a bit dry, I would like more cat pictures [10:32:20] anarchivist | fak3r-- [10:32:21] kgs | it's a tiny tote bag. :) [10:32:26] ejk | @ana siamese ferrets [10:32:27] zoia | ejk: Smeariest frees [10:32:27] crikey | we need MOAR cat pics [10:32:28] jrochkind104 | BLTnoTomato: Do you need a $ at the end? [10:32:28] jmspargu | I would like some lolcats [10:32:31] jbrinley | BLTnoTomato: sorry, /\.jpe?g$/i [10:32:32] mbklein | kgs: Zabars ftw [10:32:38] gsf | will there be audio? [10:32:41] naomi | bess: orthodox jews don't have sideburns, they have side locks: regular hair in front of ears, not beard hair. [10:32:43] kgs | Zabars++ [10:32:47] BLTnoTomato | woops [10:32:48] fak3r | jmspargu++ [10:32:51] MrDys | font_up++ [10:32:52] BLTnoTomato | :w [10:32:53] mbklein | kgs: We have two of those. I used to carry my daughter around in one. :) [10:32:53] dchud | i don't use computers on shabbat, and i don't reguarly cover my head [10:32:56] ---| ---> mib_x8kpf7k7 [i=46a41957@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aa907ea67d0ca0bb] has joined #code4lib [10:33:07] rosy1280 | maybe he's giving away trade secrets at the end [10:33:18] rosy1280 | like how to understand gis stuff [10:33:18] bess | naomi: I mis-typed. Not orthodox. You're right. [10:33:28] akorphan | You know, XML is... really bulky. [10:33:33] BigD | is there a religion where mjg_ has to wear a burka? [10:33:34] crikey | if you squint enough that XML kinda looks like a lolcat [10:33:40] fak3r | akorphan: quite chatty [10:33:44] rosy1280 | crikey++ [10:33:53] akorphan | What's the ratio of content to positioning in typical xml. [10:33:55] jrochkind104 | BigD: There is now. [10:33:56] akorphan | I wonder. [10:34:01] BigD | jrochkind104: amen. [10:34:06] mjg_ | there must be a b'ahai bacon cult somewhere. [10:34:07] kgs | mbklein this bag is lunchbag size so your daughter must be a Borrower :) [10:34:09] akorphan | by positioning i mean placement in the hierarchy [10:34:10] * mbklein self-identifies as Jewish, but almost purely in a cultural sense. [10:34:10] abarrera | BigD Bacotholic [10:34:14] ---| ---> schwartzray [i=46a4191b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-64b0869cc63104b1] has joined #code4lib [10:34:15] pmurray | rosy1280: This might be useful in understanding GIS stuff, although it is pretty dry, too: Introduction to GIS Software and ESRI ArcView (archive recording) - https://cc.readytalk.com/cc/schedule/display.do?udc=1e0a12wgb7t45 [10:34:16] ---| <<-- mpark [i=8094d890@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77f5add946d13663] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:34:23] fak3r | that link is not clickable [10:34:26] pmurray | (It is from TechSoup earlier this week) [10:34:26] mbklein | kgs: :) No, we used the full shopping bag. [10:34:40] timmcgeary | ESRI-- [10:34:41] bess | he actually has a really cool demo. I hope he gets to it soon. [10:34:42] ---| ---> asl2 [n=asl2@dsl092-130-095.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #code4lib [10:34:45] ---| ---> mpark [i=8094d890@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b7bcbd757c1a8b88] has joined #code4lib [10:34:50] dchud | yes, demo good [10:34:52] naomi | bess: me too. [10:34:58] gsf | GO TO THE DEMO [10:35:02] pmurray | ESRI_on_the_cheap++ [10:35:11] fak3r | bess: cool, I'd like to see some practical stuff, this is all pretty technical [10:35:12] gsf | url of sandwich [10:35:14] royt | "earl" [10:35:14] timmcgeary | bess: give him the secret signal [10:35:20] BigD | we have 7 line URLs, who needs a demo? [10:35:21] kgs | tiny_children++ [10:35:22] jmspargu | does the demo have a cat in it? [10:35:23] bess | pmurray: GIS_that_works++ [10:35:33] naomi | secret signal: someone shouts "demo!" [10:35:35] rosy1280 | pmurray now you're assuming i get maps [10:35:38] timmcgeary | GIS_that_works++ [10:35:40] fak3r | again, mrdis' talk was very technical, but explained well, I got it [10:35:42] dchud | i hope he has screenshots actually [10:35:44] dchud | there we go [10:35:46] timmcgeary | hey - he has a blah server, too [10:35:47] gsf | @inaworld urls are demos [10:35:47] zoia | In a world... where urls are demos [10:35:54] fak3r | I can't see my house from here [10:35:55] * rosy1280 like joey on friends i'm in the map! [10:36:00] mjg_ | http://sandwich/liverwurst?condiment=mustard&nasty=TRUEOHGODSOTRUE [10:36:03] gsf | hey, a map! [10:36:11] naomi | is adam in 1850s providence? [10:36:16] gsf | mjg_++ [10:36:21] BigD | i can see my house! [10:36:25] BigD | well, mpark's house [10:36:31] royt | web_browser_as_presentation_platform-- [10:36:31] BigD | which is right by the airport [10:36:37] BigD | where he forgot to pick me up [10:36:50] mjg_ | asaroka++ # GIS is fucking scary. [10:36:52] mpark | BigD++ [10:36:58] dchud | visible toolbars in browsers during presentations-- [10:36:59] abarrera | BigD: he didn't forget, he didn't want you eating sliders in his car [10:37:02] fak3r | I would like to see this guy to break out in some punk rock screaming - we'll need some guitars, and drums [10:37:13] gsf | royt: keynote-centric paradigm holder [10:37:13] fak3r | sliders++ [10:37:18] edsu | just found my gov't credit card down in the bar [10:37:24] mjg_ | fak3r++ [10:37:29] ---| ---> g8tor [n=g8tor@ip222-208.nal.usda.gov] has joined #code4lib [10:37:31] akorphan | edsu: so that's where the stimulus money went. [10:37:34] bess | fak3r: actually, he's also a sound guy and used to be very active in the C'ville punk scene. [10:37:37] timmcgeary | i think we need a lightning talk of only TLA and FLAs [10:37:38] rsinger | lovecraft? [10:37:40] BigD | edsu: can you validate? what is the number on that card? [10:37:48] rosy1280 | rsinger++ [10:37:56] fak3r | workshop on monday? does not compute [10:37:59] rosy1280 | lovecraft:places [10:38:01] pmurray | akorphan: Sounds like good use of stimulus money --lubricating the inner workings of Code4LIB [10:38:04] rsinger | AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SEE THAT?! [10:38:06] rsinger | ok [10:38:08] rsinger | whew [10:38:12] gsf | edsu: left my credit card at the cheesecake shop overnight earlier this week [10:38:20] anarchivist | gsf++ [10:38:23] fak3r | that was a nice site [10:38:23] crikey | my name is EARL [10:38:28] akorphan | This guy, now that you mention it, looks a little like a Lovecraft character. [10:38:32] ---| ---> kat3 [i=46a4194c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-10f2fc6675667633] has joined #code4lib [10:38:38] rosy1280 | blah/geoserver [10:38:44] bess | yes, get to the lovecraft demo! come on! [10:38:46] fak3r | edsu: good, I was behind you at the checkout [10:38:48] mjg_ | I left a credit card somewhere in Corvallis. Basically set the tone of my entire code4lib experience. [10:38:49] BigD | i've never read lovecraft [10:38:51] anarchivist | http://kirk-white.com/duke/ [10:38:58] BigD | i think i have some on my iphone... [10:38:59] gsf | GO TO THE DEMO [10:39:04] fak3r | whizbang_demo? [10:39:05] edsu | BigD: http://inkdroid.org/mastercard.txt [10:39:11] dchud | he has 4 minutes left [10:39:22] MrDys | @rickcheck http://inkdroid.org/mastercard.txt [10:39:22] mjg_ | HEY A LINK OOH LET ME CLICK THAT [10:39:23] zoia | MrDys: what would ace_waterwheels do? [10:39:27] fak3r | here we go! [10:39:27] bess | is someone timekeeping for him? [10:39:32] gsf | shmandards [10:39:33] crikey | we need moar demos [10:39:33] dchud | edsu: why i outta [10:39:35] ---| ---> mib_zbx2j9 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e971f4dc776ae77a] has joined #code4lib [10:39:37] lbjay | bess yes [10:39:38] dchud | oughta [10:39:42] gsf | postgresql++ [10:39:48] BigD | edsu: i bow to the master [10:39:49] naomi | note to self: start talk with demos. [10:39:51] fak3r | postgres not owned by sun [10:39:51] rosy1280 | lbjay is in charge [10:39:53] edsu | c++ is fucking scary [10:39:57] mbklein | ur links let me click them [10:39:58] pmurray | @todo Fix RickCheck # Life on IRC is too dangerous without it [10:39:58] timmcgeary | os++ [10:39:58] zoia | pmurray: Error: 'Fix' is not a valid task id. [10:39:58] dchud | the demo, the demo [10:39:59] BigD | of shitheadery [10:40:02] edsu | spring is fucking scary [10:40:03] ---| <<-- kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:40:05] lbjay | rosy1280: scary huh? [10:40:08] gsf | edsu: then why did you increment it? [10:40:13] bess | I told him to start with the demos, but he said "don't worry, I have pictures of kittens. it isn't boring." [10:40:15] rosy1280 | lbjay very scary [10:40:16] ---| ---> Edl [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f6f3d6a40b0752ae] has joined #code4lib [10:40:18] naomi | *winter* is scary! ;-) [10:40:28] ejk | c++++ [10:40:30] BigD | bess: he's doing well, we're just weenies [10:40:34] edsu | gsf++ [10:40:37] naomi | bess: well, now you can give him more feedback. [10:40:37] dchud | wow 134 people. that must be some kind of record [10:40:42] naomi | adam++ [10:40:42] BigD | naomi: cold is stupid [10:40:42] gsf | bess: not boring [10:40:43] MrDys | oai-pmh connectivity...interesting [10:40:49] BigD | how do you people live out here? [10:40:50] fak3r | if I give a presenation next year I need to be on chan at the same time [10:40:52] jfereira | Demotime++ [10:40:56] fak3r | ajax busy inidcator! [10:40:59] mbklein | dchud: At least a few of those are zombies___ [10:40:59] naomi | BigD: cold makes me appreciate warm. [10:41:00] gsf | @quote add < BigD> naomi: cold is stupid [10:41:00] timmcgeary | this is actually really good [10:41:00] zoia | gsf: The operation succeeded. Quote #1768 added. [10:41:01] akorphan | "... and now, as I write this, I can hear the grotesque scratching of its loathsome claws upon the doorframe! The wet sucking of its flabby tentacles strain against the lock! No! No! Its shambling, bloated form approaches! Its hideous, leathery wings! The foul stench of the black ichor that oozes forth from its eldritch, gaping maw! No!" [10:41:07] fak3r | ....buffering.... [10:41:09] crikey | can someone copy and print that URL into the room? [10:41:09] mpark | BigD: cold at the airport [10:41:10] royt | two minutes left [10:41:13] fak3r | ....buffering.... [10:41:13] gsf | BigD: i think ross lives out here [10:41:13] timmcgeary | ibahn-- [10:41:15] ejk | buffering [10:41:15] rsinger | WAIT FOR IT [10:41:16] jmspargu | DEMO!!! [10:41:17] crikey | can't read it [10:41:22] mjg_ | rsinger: dance, monkey. [10:41:24] dchud | bess: nice how the UI layout matches your blacklight deployment, it looks good [10:41:26] anarchivist | openlayers++ [10:41:28] fak3r | openlayers UI fyi [10:41:32] fak3r | anarchivist++ [10:41:34] anarchivist | search_by_extent++ [10:41:36] royt | lat.lib.virginia.edu:8080/geonetwork/ [10:41:42] BigD | mpark: i was standing out there in shorts and flipflops for 2 hrs! [10:41:46] dchud | mbklein: you got some kind of problem with zombies? [10:41:46] fak3r | look up Ashville [10:41:46] mbklein | demo++ [10:41:47] MrDys | that was snapppy [10:41:49] jfereira | openlayers++ [10:41:52] crikey | royt++ thanks!!!one [10:41:54] edsu | @rickcheck http://lat.lib.virginia.edu:8080/geonetwork/ [10:41:55] royt | http://lat.lib.virginia.edu:8080/geonetwork/ [10:41:55] zoia | edsu: huh? i was just watching Attack of the Cloneburgers [10:41:57] mbklein | dchud: I for one welcome our new zombie overlords [10:41:57] rsinger | wait for it [10:42:02] rsinger | wait for it [10:42:03] ---| ---> kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:42:04] gsf | openlayers++ [10:42:04] naomi | BigD: that was stupid of you! [10:42:08] rsinger | wait for it [10:42:18] fak3r | rich and creamy metadata [10:42:19] mbklein | lay off the demo site during the demo, people. :) [10:42:22] mjg_ | why the hell is that crap so funny? [10:42:25] BigD | naomi: the world should revolve around my needs. [10:42:28] mpark | naomi: i told him it was 90 in RI [10:42:36] naomi | mpark++ [10:42:38] gsf | naomi: BigD's iq fluctuates with the temperature [10:42:39] anarchivist | mpark++ [10:42:43] mbklein | mpark++ [10:42:44] dchud | rsinger: "i will now turn this jug of water into wine! okay, um, turn around for a sec..." [10:42:46] miker_ | BigD: it doesn't? [10:42:51] fak3r | use OpenID to login [10:42:55] BigD | gsf: der [10:42:59] anarchivist | MANHOLES [10:43:00] anarchivist | ++ [10:43:05] BigD | ooo, spots! [10:43:06] fak3r | decent_demo++ [10:43:06] naomi | dchud: "I will now turn this jug of water into ice" [10:43:08] mbklein | layers++ [10:43:11] fak3r | bell++ [10:43:12] jrochkind104 | just when he was getting to the cool stuff! [10:43:12] akorphan | live_demo-- [10:43:12] naomi | "oh_well"++ [10:43:22] dchud | note to self: LEAD WITH THE DEMO [10:43:22] timmcgeary | dots [10:43:22] BigD | meezles! [10:43:25] anarchivist | this is hot [10:43:29] MrDys | asoroka++ [10:43:29] crikey | lot's of manholes in Charlettosville [10:43:29] gsf | lbjay: take charge big boy [10:43:31] lbjay | where's cbeer? [10:43:32] jrochkind104 | OH, it's clear to me! [10:43:37] jrochkind104 | manholes++ [10:43:38] mib_x8kpf7k7 | Firehydrants? I was expecting cosmic horror.... [10:43:43] fak3r | thanks [10:43:44] jrochkind104 | A friend of mine was actually assaulted by a manhole. [10:43:52] naomi | note to all: screen shots often are better than "live" demo [10:43:56] bess | he has this great lovecraft demo. he's spent the last month on it. [10:43:57] fak3r | cbeer++ [10:43:58] ---| <<-- birkin [n=birkin@wsip-70-164-25-126.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit () [10:43:59] mjg_ | asoroka++ # sweet. [10:44:01] timmcgeary | fire hydrants = dogs = cats beware [10:44:03] akorphan | Each fire hydrant is actually a 4-dimensional "finger" of Hastur probing its way into our world. [10:44:15] mjg_ | bess++ [10:44:17] mbklein | asoroka++ bess++ [10:44:17] edsu | bess++ [10:44:17] JodiS__ | bess++ [10:44:17] dchud | i fell in a manhole once during halloween. [10:44:19] dchud | bess++ [10:44:20] fak3r | now that's the kinda gumption we needed in the talk! [10:44:22] royt | bess++ [10:44:23] dchud | asoroka++ [10:44:24] naomi | bess++ [10:44:27] abarrera | asoroka++ bess++ [10:44:29] gsf | for a while there the manhole covers in philly were being stolen [10:44:31] anarchivist | strange_woman_i_never_before++ [10:44:33] timmcgeary | he's witty and smart [10:44:37] mjg_ | twenty-three skidoo! [10:44:39] naomi | anarchivist++ [10:44:45] ---| <--- mib_x5hk8adw [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4ac245275555db8] has left #code4lib () [10:44:46] edsu | @uri manhole [10:44:47] zoia | edsu: DBpedia has URIs for... Public utilities - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Manhole; Alternative metal musical groups - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Tura_Satana_%28band%29; Public utilities - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Manhole_cover; 1973 albums - http://dbpedia.org/resource/Manhole_%28album%29; 1988 video games - http://dbpedia.org/resource/The_Manhole; 1981 video games - (1 more message) [10:44:47] fak3r | timmcgeary: he needed to bring that in the talk [10:44:49] MrDys | mjg_: ++ [10:44:52] akorphan | scrap_metal_value++ [10:44:52] MrDys | er. [10:44:55] mpark | 50 is the new 30 [10:44:56] abarrera | gsf: did you fall in one [10:44:59] escowles | beer++ [10:44:59] gsf | before the price of scrap metal sunk [10:45:00] jrochkind104 | http://cbs4denver.com/watercooler/manhole.cover.Baltimore.2.705553.html [10:45:01] BigD | kgs: did you tape him? ;) [10:45:01] fak3r | why was there a bag over the camera? [10:45:08] fak3r | newtimers [10:45:11] anarchivist | fak3r: he didn't want it taped [10:45:14] gsf | abarrera: it was hilarious [10:45:15] naomi | fak3r: he asked not to be taped. [10:45:16] dchud | fak3r: not taping asoroka [10:45:17] edsu | Chris' last name++ [10:45:18] JodiS__ | hey! necode4lib doesn't count??? :) [10:45:23] kgs | BigD++ #makin' me laff [10:45:24] fak3r | anarchivist: oh, ok - didn't know [10:45:25] * anarchivist isn't into serving users [10:45:27] ---| <<-- kgs [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-91.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:45:27] timmcgeary | beer++ [10:45:27] JodiS__ | these guys were great at necode4lib [10:45:33] mjg_ | my skin smells like beer for weeks following these conferences. [10:45:37] abarrera | gsf: so wish i still lived in philly [10:45:39] naomi | demo demo demo demo [10:45:40] rosy1280 | yay to wgbh [10:45:42] anarchivist | mjg_: you smell smart [10:45:44] jfereira | cbeer++ [10:45:47] ---| <--- mib_9m9gv4 [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-92d6f0d5f8636ff4] has left #code4lib () [10:45:50] MrDys | non_library_speakers++ [10:45:53] BigD | abarrera: so does yer family [10:45:54] fak3r | cbeer_name++ [10:46:03] anarchivist | fwiw - their code is in launchpad already :) [10:46:06] rosy1280 | like their tool [10:46:07] anarchivist | bzr ftw [10:46:11] gsf | mjg_: you should try showering [10:46:12] ---| <<-- cliff [n=user@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:46:12] ---| <<-- charper [n=charper@HARPER.BOBST.NYU.EDU] has quit ("Lost terminal") [10:46:12] ---| <<-- hdl [n=hdl@descartes.biblibre.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:46:12] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:46:12] ---| <<-- jstroop [n=jstroop@lib-staff579.Princeton.EDU] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:46:12] ---| <<-- highermath_ [n=higherma@wsip-70-164-25-123.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:13] ---| <<-- lxming [n=liux@132-174-199-77.ip.oclc.org] has quit ("Lost terminal") [10:46:14] ---| <<-- abarrera [n=abarrera@wsip-70-164-25-115.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:16] mbklein | wgbh++ [10:46:16] ---| <<-- rjw_ [n=rjw@wsip-70-164-25-118.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:17] dchud | i advocate telling all speakers in the future: lead with the demo. and have a screencast just in case. [10:46:20] edsu | mjg_, dchud are you going to $work tomorrow? [10:46:21] ---| <<-- ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-104.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:21] ---| <<-- JodiS__ [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-106.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:21] fak3r | door slam [10:46:21] ---| <<-- jphipps [n=jphipps@wsip-70-164-25-116.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:25] jrochkind104 | dchud: I agree. [10:46:28] ---| ---> MrDys- [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-122.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:46:29] ---| <<-- emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c16 -- just do it.") [10:46:29] ---| <<-- chickmarkley_ [n=chickmar@wsip-70-164-25-108.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:30] mbklein | For producing ZOOM if nothing else. [10:46:30] naomi | dchud++ [10:46:32] naomi | demo demo demo demo [10:46:34] fak3r | dchud: yeah, a demo or family guy mini-episode [10:46:35] jrochkind104 | The demo tells me why I should care about the boring stuff. :) [10:46:35] ---| <<-- MrDys- [i=MrDys@wsip-70-164-25-122.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:46:35] ---| <<-- TokeE [n=vircuser@ip-24-105.bnaa.dk] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:46:35] ---| <<-- gsf [i=gsf@manheim.library.drexel.edu] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:46:41] ---| ---> JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:46:43] ---| ---> ecorrado [n=ecorrado@wsip-70-164-25-107.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #code4lib [10:46:46] tomkeays | dchud++ [10:46:50] naomi | BUT: faux demo, since hotel internet sucks so often. 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What was once 134 is now down to 65. [10:50:11] ---| <<-- mcdonald [i=8cb68306@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a81907e878324b5a] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:50:11] pmurray | Still, that is a lot for the average day on #code4lib [10:50:24] pmurray | Maybe I'll just talk to myself for a while. [10:50:30] pmurray | Hey, zoia -- you still there? [10:50:32] ---| <<-- fak3r [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b30353e8b130c4a4] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:50:32] ---| <<-- codemonkey [i=46a4197c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-097d9f1729853885] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:50:32] ---| <<-- cschx [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-30e5f7d1631bda35] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:50:43] pmurray | zoia: You still there? [10:50:45] zoia | pmurray: Sorry, You are currently using Flash Player 0 [10:50:52] ---| ---> travisgere [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-76668d05e721d533] has joined #code4lib [10:50:53] pmurray | Oh, *whew* [10:50:57] ---| ---> mpark [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a5f1830fe1742323] has joined #code4lib [10:51:04] pmurray | It was getting lonely here. [10:51:12] ---| ---> schwartzray [i=46a4190c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ce61bbcb100b154b] has joined #code4lib [10:51:16] pmurray | Maybe folks will come back. 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[10:52:15] akorphan | ibahn-- [10:52:18] ejk | ibahn-- [10:52:20] dchud | grumble network grumble grumble [10:52:24] crikey | what did i miss? the tubes of the internet were clooged!!! 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[10:57:38] pmurray | I hope so. As the conference grows, so does the network demands... [10:57:46] jtgorman | maybe the next time we need to try to capture some of our traffic, so we can try to stimulate it... [10:58:03] jtgorman | any site that goes "oh yeah, don't worry", get them to agree to run the test and see what happens... [10:58:21] pmurray | Yeah -- that is what the PyCon people end up doing. [10:59:22] jtgorman | pmurray: I'm not sure what type of resources you'd need to simulate the traffic though [10:59:35] pmurray | "When we outsource the networking we've tried to be extremely clear about our demands. "We pretty much all have a computer, we're computer geeks, and a huge percentage of our users will have them on. We're probably way more than anything you've ever experienced before." That sort of thing. " -- http://www.tummy.com/Community/Articles/pycon2008-network/ [11:00:00] pmurray | "However, the vendors have always been like "No problem!" We've tried to make it clear that we're likely to smoke test their network, but they always seem to think we're BSing them. I remember 2 years ago saying "Compared to any other 600 people you've had here, we'll be way more demanding on the network." "No problem!"" -- same cite [11:00:51] jtgorman | pmurray: I also suspect many a hotel/venue it's a combination of factors... [11:01:07] pmurray | Yep. [11:01:09] jtgorman | a) the tech people really don't understand the capabilities and demand [11:01:34] jaron_ | @hosts2010 [11:01:35] zoia | jaron_: Asheville, NC [286]; Austin, TX [277]; Madison, WI [208]; Columbus, OH [155]; Bloomington, IN [118] [11:01:44] jtgorman | b) the managers figure it's a traveling venue, why spend extra money? If you can just talk them into it, it doesn't matter if they don't come back. They weren't planning on doing it anyway [11:02:05] jeff | bringing in your own uplink and access points is sometmies more practical than relying on the venue. [11:02:08] jtgorman | the only thing I could see doing is building it into the contract, something like a sla [11:03:35] jtgorman | I love the comment about people bringing two laptops [11:04:13] jtgorman | that's not even figuring how many people are migrating to phones that also will try to grab at the wireless network [11:04:24] ---| <<-- wtd_ [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:04:25] ---| <<-- calvinm__ [n=calvinm@wsip-70-164-25-51.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:04:27] ---| <<-- wtd [n=buff@wsip-70-164-25-43.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:04:48] ---| <<-- rsinger [n=rsinger@wsip-70-164-25-121.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:04:56] ---| <<-- decasm [n=decasm@wsip-70-164-25-34.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:05:15] ---| <<-- ksclarke1 [n=ksclarke@wsip-70-164-25-52.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:05:50] ---| <<-- JodiS [n=JodiS@wsip-70-164-25-98.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:05:52] ---| <<-- anarchivist [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:06:13] ---| <<-- donhamp [n=chatzill@wsip-70-164-25-85.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:07:09] * jtgorman had a a/b/g wireless card for a while and did find it was useful for jumping on to a router using only A that was pretty much unused [11:07:10] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has quit (Connection timed out) [11:07:39] jtgorman | well, that was interesting read but I probably should have waited till I got home to do it [11:11:02] ---| <<-- timothy_ [n=timothy@wsip-70-164-25-37.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:12:28] ---| ---> ranti [i=2308dd82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5638c6a347fa1450] has joined #code4lib [11:12:59] pmurray | Hmmm -- 134 to 62 to 79 to 48 and dead quiet. 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[11:27:44] JodiS | MrDys: raises good points. reflection++ [11:27:47] edsu | "Providence is at your door step" [11:27:49] ---| <<-- Janusman [n=chatzill@200.23.146.254] has quit ("need to concentrate for a while =)") [11:28:00] MrDys- | JodiS: reflection is fine, but it's nothing people haven't been saying for years [11:28:01] pmurray | It was boring here for a while. [11:28:01] * JodiS stomps on hotel internet [11:28:05] BigD | why don't i need my vpn for irc all of a sudden? [11:28:10] wickr | pmurray: there was a systems upgrade here, nknocked out internet [11:28:16] ---| ---> jchen [i=48ff6be8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5cec49222e586d6f] has joined #code4lib [11:28:16] ---| ---> ecorrado [n=ecorrado@72-255-107-215.client.stsn.net] has joined #code4lib [11:28:18] ---| ---> codemonkey [i=48ff6bb1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34ef5263c5c3fe9c] has joined #code4lib [11:28:19] jfereira | network upgrade [11:28:27] anarchivist | using labatts? 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[11:30:02] anarchivist | erikhatcher: i may ping you soon about lucid imagination stuff [11:30:05] erikhatcher | awww, the karma! [11:30:06] JodiS | BigD++ [11:30:18] ---| ---> scotchko [i=48ff2718@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-12e193fcb8e77ae3] has joined #code4lib [11:30:21] BigD | see ya'll next year, i hope. maybe Access2009 in PEI? [11:30:22] erikhatcher | might i recommend a visit to see the buddha at the RISD museum? [11:30:39] anarchivist | erikhatcher: did you see the shawn greenlee installation there too? [11:30:41] * ecorrado puts iii encore in amazon cloud and then hits delete [11:30:46] anarchivist | ecorrado++ [11:30:48] anarchivist | # please do [11:30:54] gsf | put it all on the page [11:31:13] * ecorrado thinks Prince Edward Island has a great name [11:31:25] anarchivist | rjw++ [11:31:31] ecorrado | esp. the second part [11:31:33] cbeer | JodiS: which WGBH thing? 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[11:37:16] ---| ---> mpark [i=48ff6cfe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d747cd53019b51a5] has joined #code4lib [11:37:17] ---| ---> harmless [i=48ff2eb8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ef967100c38feda5] has joined #code4lib [11:37:21] JodiS_ | mmmm, lunch [11:37:32] ecorrado_ | lightning_talks++ [11:37:34] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@ratherinsane.com] has quit () [11:37:42] ---| ---> mbklein [i=48ff6dcd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3af1378ec623dbb3] has joined #code4lib [11:37:45] JodiS_ | great lightning talks today [11:37:48] ---| ---> jrochkind112 [i=48ff6d9b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b80525deef3ee244] has joined #code4lib [11:37:50] ---| ---> cbeer [n=chris@72-255-108-171.client.stsn.net] has joined #code4lib [11:37:56] ecorrado_ | not enough cats, too much harry potter [11:37:58] ---| <<-- jdshaw_ [n=chatzill@72-255-12-66.client.stsn.net] has quit (Client Quit) [11:38:00] mbklein | Whew. Being out of the channel is like going without air. :) [11:38:01] jrochkind112 | Someone was telling me about some awesome map store north of providence. But now I forget the name. [11:38:03] ---| <<-- MrDys- [n=MrDys@72-255-107-189.client.stsn.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [11:38:08] edsu | JodiS_: aye [11:38:13] ---| User: *** MrDys_ is now known as MrDys [11:38:21] anarchivist_ | python_dicts++ [11:38:27] mbklein | @later tell kgs Kid in a (non-Zabar's, but same idea) bag: http://michael.is.outoffoc.us/files/kidbag.jpg [11:38:28] zoia | mbklein: The operation succeeded. [11:38:29] ecorrado_ | @google awesome map store north of providence [11:38:30] zoia | ecorrado_: Search took 0.18 seconds: Map of North Providence , RI by MapQuest: ; Deb the Shop, North Attleboro, MA : Reviews and maps - Yahoo! Local: ; Map Center, shop for world, USA, framed map pinboard, tacks, pins: ; Dr. Lankin's (3 more messages) [11:38:37] ejk | ibahn-- [11:38:38] JodiS_ | mbklein: I can survive for more time without IRC than breathing, but, yeah, I hear that [11:39:03] ---| ---> BigD2 [n=dfleming@dfleming-vpn.ucsd.edu] has joined #code4lib [11:39:08] ---| ---> akorphan [i=48ff6caa@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6ac90ba1ec0bea63] has joined #code4lib [11:39:10] ---| ---> wtd_ [n=chatzill@72-255-109-240.client.stsn.net] has joined #code4lib [11:39:11] JodiS_ | @karma ibahn [11:39:11] mbklein | IIIIIIBAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHNNNNNNN!!!!!!! [11:39:12] zoia | JodiS_: Karma for "ibahn" has been increased 1 time and decreased 45 times for a total karma of -44. [11:39:12] akorphan | ibahn-- [11:39:14] JodiS_ | @karma iii [11:39:14] zoia | JodiS_: Karma for "iii" has been increased 9 times and decreased 183 times for a total karma of -174. [11:39:24] akorphan | ibahn-- [11:39:29] ---| ---> jfereira [i=48ff6c98@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-78ff569feb4f17d2] has joined #code4lib [11:39:31] edsu | lbjay++ [11:39:43] jfereira | REjected [11:39:45] wickr | lbjay++ [11:39:50] anarchivist_ | zero_the_hero++ [11:39:54] anarchivist_ | @quote random [11:39:54] zoia | anarchivist_: Quote #788: " if only there was an opac that worked AS WELL AS a glorified royt" (added by ksclarke at 12:40 PM, March 22, 2007) [11:39:59] timmcgeary | function, function, what's your junction [11:40:16] JodiS_ | lbjay++ [11:40:25] edsu | lbjay++ [11:40:26] mbklein | lbjay++ [11:40:32] ---| ---> rjw [n=rjw@72-255-109-226.client.stsn.net] has joined #code4lib [11:40:34] ---| ---> OtakuZoku [i=48ff6cc2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f63d6b88cdc1a25] has joined #code4lib [11:40:49] ejk | lbjay++ [11:40:52] akorphan | preview-- [11:40:55] BigD2 | timmcgeary: conjunction junction, what's your function? HTH [11:40:56] ecorrado_ | what he said [11:40:56] ---| ---> mib_bvd4bw [i=48ff6cf1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c81549a10dc10c38] has joined #code4lib [11:41:01] ---| ---> jstroop_ [n=jstroop@72-255-109-187.client.stsn.net] has joined #code4lib [11:41:05] mbklein | MARK DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANY MORE [11:41:05] BigD2 | hey, where's my attrib? [11:41:10] timmcgeary | BigD2: I know... [11:41:13] ---| <<-- emcrens [n=eric@wsip-70-184-233-44.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c16 -- just do it.") [11:41:22] JodiS_ | plone folks: Darci Hanning is getting us a plone4lib list at plone.org [11:41:29] mbklein | @foaf anarchivist currentProject [11:41:30] zoia | mbklein: anarchivist : [11:41:36] ---| ---> atz [n=atz@72-255-9-255.client.stsn.net] has joined #code4lib [11:41:43] ---| <<-- anarchivist_ [n=anarchiv@unaffiliated/anarchivist] has quit () [11:41:46] ---| <<-- BigD [n=dfleming@72-255-107-212.client.stsn.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 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[11:41:53] ecorrado_ | @cyborg necode4lib [11:41:56] zoia | ecorrado_: N.E.C.O.D.E.L.I.B.: Networked Electronic Construct Optimized for Destruction, Efficient Learning and Immediate Battle [11:41:57] ---| User: *** BigD2 is now known as BigD [11:42:16] ecorrado_ | zoia: that one actually works decently [11:42:18] zoia | ecorrado_: have you ever *had* breakfast with a geologist? it's pretty great [11:42:18] ---| <<-- Baroquem [n=matt@cpe-67-241-19-29.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) [11:42:31] ---| User: *** Baroquem_ is now known as Baroquem [11:42:33] akorphan | @cyborg zoia [11:42:35] zoia | akorphan: Z.O.I.A.: Zealous Observation and Infiltration Android [11:42:42] ---| ---> cliff [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has joined #code4lib [11:42:48] akorphan | @cyborg xyzzy [11:42:49] zoia | akorphan: X.Y.Z.Z.Y.: Xenomorph Yearning for Zoology and Zealous Yelling [11:43:03] MrDys | @cyborg zzyzyx [11:43:05] akorphan | @cyborg xzxzxzxz [11:43:06] zoia | MrDys: Z.Z.Y.Z.Y.X.: Zeta Zombie Yearning for Zealous Yelling and Xenocide [11:43:07] zoia | akorphan: X.Z.X.Z.X.Z.X.Z.: Xperimental Zombie Xperienced in Zoology, Xpert Zapping and Xtreme Zymurgy [11:43:14] ecorrado_ | win++ [11:43:24] mbklein | @inaworld [cyborg inaworld] stalks the land... [11:43:26] timmcgeary | so where are we going for lunch? [11:43:26] zoia | In a world... where I.N.A.W.O.R.L.D.: Intelligent Networked Android Wanting Observation, Repair and Logical Destruction stalks the land... [11:43:32] BigD | stay classy, c4l! [11:43:33] jbrinley | write c4lj articles [11:43:36] dlovins | lbjay++ [11:43:37] ---| <<-- OtakuZoku [i=48ff6cc2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f63d6b88cdc1a25] has quit (Client Quit) [11:43:42] mbklein | rock on c4l [11:43:44] JodiS_ | code4lib_withdrawl-- [11:43:46] ---| ---> tomkeays [i=48ff6d75@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-80199b31d4170a09] has joined #code4lib [11:43:49] akorphan | ibahn-- [11:43:56] jfereira | ibahn-- [11:43:58] akorphan | sponsors++ [11:44:00] tomkeays | ibahn-- [11:44:01] jfereira | brownU++ [11:44:05] JodiS_ | what jbrinley said: write c4l articles [11:44:08] JodiS_ | brownU++ [11:44:11] ejk | ibahn-- [11:44:13] JodiS_ | sponsors++ [11:44:14] ecorrado_ | brownU++ [11:44:19] codemonkey | brownU++ [11:44:19] akorphan | brownU++ [11:44:22] dlovins | brownU++ [11:44:22] BigD | ProvidenceU++ [11:44:22] mbklein | jean++ birkin++ patrick++ mpark++ andrewashton++ [11:44:23] ecorrado_ | write++ [11:44:24] tomkeays | brownU++ [11:44:27] codemonkey | I would also like to thank Ibhan [11:44:27] akorphan | entropy_generator-- [11:44:32] JodiS_ | lbjay++ #asheville image ksclarke++ #for finding it [11:44:32] codemonkey | lol :) [11:44:36] akorphan | @karma ibahn [11:44:37] zoia | akorphan: Karma for "ibahn" has been increased 1 time and decreased 51 times for a total karma of -50. [11:44:37] dlovins | data_silos-- [11:44:41] ecorrado_ | asheville, here we come!!!!!!! [11:44:44] ---| <<-- mpark [i=48ff6cfe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d747cd53019b51a5] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:44:46] ---| <<-- jfereira [i=48ff6c98@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-78ff569feb4f17d2] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:44:48] ---| <<-- cbeer [n=chris@72-255-108-171.client.stsn.net] has quit () [11:44:49] ---| <<-- jstroop_ [n=jstroop@72-255-109-187.client.stsn.net] has quit (Client Quit) [11:44:53] ---| <<-- chickmarkley [n=chickmar@72-255-108-146.client.stsn.net] has quit () [11:44:55] akorphan | You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here! [11:45:01] ---| <<-- tomkeays [i=48ff6d75@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-80199b31d4170a09] has quit (Client Quit) [11:45:02] ---| <--- cliff [n=cliff@lib-staff900.Princeton.EDU] has left #code4lib () [11:45:05] ---| Channel: JodiS_ changed the topic of #code4lib to: Welcome to #code4lib. Safe travels all! [11:45:06] ---| <--- decasm_nomad [n=decasm@72-255-109-142.client.stsn.net] has left #code4lib () [11:45:06] ---| <<-- smkiewel [i=48ff6d64@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b9a6317bd7bd28fa] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:45:10] ---| <<-- royt_ [n=tennantr@72-255-109-81.client.stsn.net] has quit () [11:45:10] ---| <<-- mbklein [i=48ff6dcd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3af1378ec623dbb3] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:45:14] ---| <<-- mib_bvd4bw [i=48ff6cf1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c81549a10dc10c38] has quit (Client Quit) [11:45:16] pmurray | Safe travels home, everyone! [11:45:22] ---| <<-- codemonkey [i=48ff6bb1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34ef5263c5c3fe9c] has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:45:32] MrDys | time to kill a few hours [11:45:33] ---| <<-- rjw [n=rjw@72-255-109-226.client.stsn.net] has quit () [11:45:37] timmcgeary | lunch? [11:45:38] ecorrado_ | cya all next year! 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[11:46:49] pmurray | @hosts2009 [11:46:49] zoia | pmurray: Brown University/Providence, Rhode Island [269]; Columbus, OH [225]; Southeast Florida [176]; Bahía Blanca, Argentina [105] [11:47:27] ---| <<-- erikhatcher [n=erik@72-255-108-247.client.stsn.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:47:30] JodiS_ | lunchward... 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